According to a Jmod in my discord server the chance of getting a token spawn went from 20% a minute down to 5%. Although it seems that players have been experiencing worse...
@@ProtoxxGaming Increase costs while also nerfing rates while also making the most consistent way to get tokens be from items almost exclusively gained from Treasure Hunter. This isn't a weird move. This is calculated to try and drive more people to TH. Oh if you use 45 keys in the next 24 hours you will get 15 skill dummy boxes! SPEND SPEND SPEND!
i bought literally everything in store last double xp except the elite skilling outfits which are being made with invention anyway. It was stupidly easy. Considering what you have to do normally to get all these items (slayer masks, all skilling outfits, etc). it was stupidly OP
@@elwoodzmake Well the issue is that the normal rate is terrible at 400 an hour. that would be 20 hours for a single elite set piece if you dont have dummies/proteans.
@@trickzbunnygames8594 yeah, well i don't really care about that because those outfits literally go passively on your account for playing the game... I wouldn't mind it at all if they removed them from this store.
Most of the comments are talking about how happy they were able to buy almost everything in the store from the last DXP event. Doesn’t that seem a bit off? The fact that someone can buy out the whole store in one event shows that they were giving out wayyyy too many tokens last time. Something needed to be changed.
Sad to say that the token nerf is probably done intentionally to promote MTX sales. Keys and the bundles give you goodies to earn more tokens. This is just unfair for the casuals out there. There is no incentive to play more besides just double xp now.
@@anthony3191 you’re missing the point you’re only getting 1 outfit piece elite that is per “random” drop for the whole event. That should be atleast 3X that.
@@pondracekThats mtx nerf? Because protean still gets wayy more than normal way.. meaning people would like to buy more stuff to get the proteans. Thats not mtx Nerf.
Not to mention that before, selling an hour to Trader Stan got you 2 large stars (or huge, I can't remember) and now selling it for tokens gets you 2/3 of a large star.
I always felt like they should never have brought the tokens out. At least before when you saw people have sets you knew they'd put work in, i.e minigames. Minigames were already dead and the only incentive to do some was to get a set. Like the herblore set. They made mini games even more redundant by releasing tokens.
I wanted to finish collecting the cosmetics from the dxp weekend store, because I always buy every cosmic first before ever thinking of touching XP stuff
Besides all the mentioned issues, I have another one: the Herald's Outfit. It was originally released as 4 tokens in Treasure Hunter. I managed to get 3 out of 4 tokens, only leaving the Herald's Hat unobtained. How is it fair that I have to pay the same price as someone who didn't get any tokens back then? Why not release the 4 tokens as they were originally, or give a 12.5k token discount per previously unlocked token?
They won't. They are stupid or they are shaking their heads because the boss wants more mtx. Either way, they won't fix it. They reach out to the masses for creativity, then they bitch slap you.
It seems like it is rng based and I've got some strange things happening like 2 on in a row, meaning that it procs when you get xp of any kind? I'm not sure but for regular skilling, at the very least, the distribution is way way off.
Thats the point, you can't get decent amount of DXP tokens so you buy it instead by giving you an incentive to buy more keys to get proteans and dummies in order to get those DXP tokens, with the red proteans introduced as well to dilute the prize table for less xp during dxp, you will be spending more money on keys and so on, it all started with the oddments nerf.
And people will drive up the bond price to acquire more keys too, this feeds the MTX monster further, as people are more inclined to spend irl money on bonds to then sell for in-game gp
My thought it I thought these were supposed to be like seren spirits, but they aren't because I get seren spirits more often than dxp spirits. I would love them to add maybe a rare drop table spawn and maybe 100 tokens per spawn, if they keep the RNG mechanic, otherwise yeah just have one appear every couple minutes with guaranteed tokens. I'd also just remove the dummy and protean tokens per item too. As a different note why don't combat dummies support necromancy yet Jagex?
Same man first DXP since 2012 for me. The only reason I am getting tokens is that I've done 50+ quests in the past week or two, which gave me 100 keys, which in turn gave me proteans & some dummies lol
Ignoring the bad faith post above me, skilling outfits just aren't necessary for pretty much anything other than getting 200m xp in a skill, which is absurd and most sane players just stop at 99. It's not a big loss. Not defending Jagex's dumbassery but skilling outfits just don't matter too much in the longrun.
dxp is almost free, you are getting almost free stuff and complain about it. Besides, idk what are you talking about, I'm getting the normal amount of dxp tokens, already got 2 full sets just from yesterday.
I’m trying to get back into RS and it’s the first time I see this tokenns. I did mostly porteans, I got enought to get full prayer gear and 2 pieces of the summoning. I think they are making the game way easier then what it used to be, I was surprised of how easily you can get to 99 nowadays. I felt that it was already cheap enough 3.2k per piece, thats incredible. Plus double xp. It’s already easy enough.
protoxx, Rarely comment namely because i just figured out its below a billion vids keep on em they were just gulped up by a company so i hope they actually care now but you vids are great something to watch while im playin i hope you have a great day
Increased the price. Hard-core decreased the rate you get the tokens. Just remove the damn thing altogether. Why ruin what everyone liked. Jagex needs serious help.
I remember starting when there was a crafting event exp on I got to 99 and it killed the game for me, and now that they have increased prices they have double killed it for me sadly ill never play again
Just a little something that may help you all out a little bit i been playing rs long time had 800 elite combat dummies i am killing 3 in 120 seconds with mellee with good equip so even if no great equip should be able to kill say 3 every 2 min thats 240 tokens in 2 minutes 7200 tokens per hour. Hope this helps im doing this just for the bxp and to train mellee
glad I grinded so hard for tokens the last two dxps and got virtually everything. Only things I needed this dxp were 2 of the 4 dungeoneering elite outfits, originally planned to get both and have tokens to spare, not Im not sure i will even get a single one rip.
Fyi the way you calculated your percentages is incorrect. At 1:37 you said from 8k to 10k is a 20% increase. That is incorrect it is a 25% increase because 1.25*8k =10k. You have to base your percentages off the original value not the new value.
I had 49k dxp tokens saved up from when I was going for the ranger outfit last DXP. It ended right before I got the 50k so I just said oh well, I'll just wait for the next time and get it then. Then they took it out and traded it for a cosmetic token you can buy for cheap on the GE already T.T
1 hour of time grinding = 400 Tokens. 1 hour of time sold in DXP store = 2000 Tokens. It's 5 times more tokens exchanging DXP time with considerably less effort to do so. This shouldn't be the case. Exchanging DXP is for players who know they won't be doing things with DXP and won't care to recoup some quicker but lesser rewards. In this case players who want to use their DXP and play the game in doing so are getting sub-optimal tokens.
I am very happy I bought literally everything last DXP lol. I have noticed I get a lot more tokens while using proteans? I was getting a lot less while training Necro (Rituals).
Why would we want dxp to be the best way to get your skilling outfits? Isn’t that bad for the health of the game and already established content that can be improved?
I wouldn't be surprised if they hotfix this on Monday after everyone has already burned through a lot of their protean items/dxp time. They just wanted to see if people would complain.
I don't know if you noticed but I also think they nerfed Seren Spirits and Blessings of the Gods spawn rates.... which definitely makes me feel cheated.
I’m lucky that I’m sitting on 177k tokens on my main from the last 2 dxp events. This time around I have nothing to spend them on. If we weren’t being pissed on and told that it’s raining I would be inclined to throw some towards lamps/ stars, etc. I’ve recently started up an alt account and it took over 2 hours before both accounts saw their first spirit for dxp tokens. Wtf man.
@@Comment66nowhere close Archaeology is nowhere close to the slowest skill and divination speeds up significantly after 80 Fishing and wc have some of the lowest xp rates even at the higher end of the skills
Raw training without mtx stuff, WC might be the slowest. If including MTX stuff, probably agility because it does not have the strongest options for massive xp gains but does include passive gains through silverhawks, which is nice.
Bro idk what you guys ark talking about. You get 4 tokens per protein and 80 upon completion of a dummy. It was the exact same as the last double xp... they only changed it for when your not using proteins or dummys.
I haven't played since dxp first started. I just been using a few dummies and I haven't gotten any tokens. At first I didn't see the perfect cuz I was still getting 80 tokens per dummy. Now I'm using 5 or 6 before getting 80.
I mean, most people have the skilling token stuff they wanted from the past two dps, no? So people like me are just going to be tanking the price of oil of enchantments with all our tokens this time
Ngl: I stopped playing because of the lack of content. I considered coming back during DXP after hearing about the upcoming content. I waited just to see, and sure enough, they showed some hard greed (again). At this point, I'm just waiting for Brighter Shores.
I think this is a good change since there is usually 4 dxp per year. Unlocking that much in just one event might not make sense. So the nerf was not a bad decision I guess?
My unfounded conspiracy theory is that they are trying to purge proteans and dummies from the playerbase, NOT that they're trying to sell more MTX. They want people to use them so they can be replaced/reworked at a lower rate (see: unstable proteans). I just wish if this was the case they'd just tell us.
Ik snap wel waarom ze zoiets zouden doen, want had vorige DXP amper iets gedaan en heb de hele shop leeg kunnen kopen. Ik had ongeveer de helft al, maar een actieve nieuweling had gewoon alle items kunnen unlocken. Zo heeft veel gameplay of toekomstige DXP tokens ook vrijwel geen waarde meer. Mijn probleem is vooral dat A. MTX items wel belachelijk snel tokens blijven geven, wat weer een extra pay-2-win spin eraan geeft, en B. Dit weeral niet is gecommuniceerd. Hoe moeilijk is het om zoiets te vermelden met een paar zinnetjes aan redenering? Het zou ze een hoop frustratie vanuit de spelers schelen als ze dit wel aan hadden gegeven.
It should be designed that a single player can purchase every item in the shop if they use up all of their bxp timer. Simple. No rng. Just a balanced rate based on the total cost of the store divided by 48, spread across at whatever increment comes out to. Seems like common sense to me but jagex and common sense don’t go hand in hand.
I mean... They don't owe us free skilling boost items. Sure it was nice last time but I think we can agree that it was way too lucrative. It did need to be nerfed, they just didn't get it right.
The amount we got before was very broken. I bought 6 different full skilling outfits and every slayer mask in a single DXP event. This time it is nerfed so players don’t just jump ahead and get free items that normally take hours and hours to achieve. This is how it should be. Before was very broken and way too easy.
head addons and outfits that you need and are painfull to grind. For elite outfits, one shark outfit alone is incredibly good and I'd recommend getting them one by one.
It's exactly going like I "predicted" (told) when Jagex was bought over for $1.1B dollars.. - More rewards if you buy keys = More keys being sold for people who NEED this DXP event for training = More profit. - Less rewards for those who already pay (membership) to play, means even they will be annoyed and consider perhaps MTX = More profit. - The unannounced nerf is a low strategy of Jagex because they know people will create content, meaning more people will know (again) about DXP and tokens and will login... see their dummies / proteans, use them all and be annoyed by the nerf... even they (returning members) will consider MTX = More profit. All Jagex been doing lately is typical "business school books" after purchasing a company. They make easy adjustments and sell keys. They use different items which cost nothing to program (unstable proteans) and so on. I don't like it, but business wise it's huge tricky to get more revenue this way... it works but it's not helping on the longterm. People will be less excited about the next DXP event this way.
People will complain about not getting their tokens as fast as before, its still better than not having dxp tokens at all. But when it comes to hero pass buffs it's evil because mtx. This nerf was needed, before anyone could buy out the store in one dxp event.
Damn they really gutted the dxp tokens... I think everyone can agree they were a bit overtuned the last dxp's, but the prices increase combine with the huge rate nerf now just feels awful.
Yall are tripping. This is only my third dxp event and i have already purchased almost the entire store. After the first one i literally was able to buy every single skilling outfit piece and a couple pieces of elite skilling outfits. After the second one i got several complete elite outfits. This nerf was downright necessary. You shouldn't be able to buy the entire store in one or two events, that was absolutely ridiculous.
@answerth you do realize you can obtain all those items thru normal gameplay too, right? It was absolutely busted that you could just skip all that content and obtain all those over powered items in just ten day's time. Why even bother playing the game if you can just skip it all and get everything for free? Imo this game has already become too afk. It's really refreshing to see Jagex breaking away from that model. There are plenty of other games on the app store that allow you to just click once and walk away for 10 min at a time, you're certainly free to give any of them a try.
@@joshmonaco6170 Yep, and im grateful for the store. But as you said yourself "I already purchased the entire store". We can both agree the rate was way too fast. It's glacial now without proteans. Just take some away from proteans and make the standard rate a big higher is not a big ask. Playing for like 40-60 hours this dxp yielded like 15k tokens maybe before proteans, so at that rate, it's many years for someone to buy out the store. Easy for you to say it's fine when you already have all of them and didn't need to do the the even longer, often garbage grinds to get some of them. I don't like to AFK, I prefer sweaty pvm, so im good on games that you don't need to actively play lol.
@answerth I think you're still missing the point... you shouldn't be able to just buy out the whole store in the first place. Every single item in that store is available in game thru normal game play, you just have to play the game. Personally, the time i spent earning those outfit pieces legitimately was some of the most fun I've had playing the game. They're all from different mini games and various ways to mix up traditional game play. If I wanted to play afk arena I'd just download that
Players Complaining: Mainscape just hands you everything. Don’t have to work for anything! Players Also Complaining: OMG THEY PULLED BACK HOW EASY IT WAS TO GET ***EXTRA*** EXTRA XP AND OUTFITS YOU USED TO HAVE TO EARN!!!!! Always a lose/lose with this community.
I've been using Proteans so I hadn't noticed this yet. God, I'm fucking tired of this Early Bird Bonus bullshit they've been doing lately. *You* may not be annoyed, Protoxx, but I am. This is just bullshit because now it feels like unless you nolife everything for the first two weeks (which I can't fucking do due to having a job, frequent migraines, etc) or you get absolutely fucked over to a varying degree of severity. Well, thank you for sharing, Protoxx.
According to a Jmod in my discord server the chance of getting a token spawn went from 20% a minute down to 5%.
Although it seems that players have been experiencing worse...
increase cost while also nerfing rates is such a weird move. i havent even logged in for this one yet... might not
@@nondeth3175it sure is..
@@ProtoxxGaming Increase costs while also nerfing rates while also making the most consistent way to get tokens be from items almost exclusively gained from Treasure Hunter. This isn't a weird move. This is calculated to try and drive more people to TH. Oh if you use 45 keys in the next 24 hours you will get 15 skill dummy boxes! SPEND SPEND SPEND!
That's straight BS there and they wonder why all the backlash about it
I genuinely thought that the dxp store and token rate were completely fine before this awful change
i bought literally everything in store last double xp except the elite skilling outfits which are being made with invention anyway. It was stupidly easy. Considering what you have to do normally to get all these items (slayer masks, all skilling outfits, etc). it was stupidly OP
@@elwoodzmake Well the issue is that the normal rate is terrible at 400 an hour. that would be 20 hours for a single elite set piece if you dont have dummies/proteans.
@@trickzbunnygames8594 yeah, well i don't really care about that because those outfits literally go passively on your account for playing the game... I wouldn't mind it at all if they removed them from this store.
I genuinely thought 4 dxp a year was enough but oh well
@@trickzbunnygames8594 i don't know why you would buy these sets in the first place ...
Most of the comments are talking about how happy they were able to buy almost everything in the store from the last DXP event. Doesn’t that seem a bit off? The fact that someone can buy out the whole store in one event shows that they were giving out wayyyy too many tokens last time. Something needed to be changed.
Finally common sense lol . People are literally saying it's "to make more money" but literally how??? It just makes people play more
"How hard can we squeeze money out of the consumer?"
well RS3 has been asking that since 2012, and progressively making it worse and worse. RS3 is enjoyed as a whale, not a casual
This was my exact thoughts when they said they reduced the amount of tokens earned.
Sad to say that the token nerf is probably done intentionally to promote MTX sales. Keys and the bundles give you goodies to earn more tokens. This is just unfair for the casuals out there. There is no incentive to play more besides just double xp now.
What did you expect? This game has gone south for years so
its RS3... its a literal xp simulator with some rpg elements thrown in for flavour. if you're casual, good luck out there.
400 X 48 = 19,200 token. That’s for the entire DXP so you can’t even buy 2 elite outfit pieces per event. Bro fuck Jagex
@@anthony3191 Big deal that you can earn tokens without DXP time left when the RATE without Proteans is absolute dog S h ! t .
@@anthony3191 true but the point of slow rates still stands
i earned 15k token in 4 hours doing 1100 protean traps and arch?
@@anthony3191 you’re missing the point you’re only getting 1 outfit piece elite that is per “random” drop for the whole event. That should be atleast 3X that.
@@blazedinbristol I’m taking about the pointless sprite things
1 step forward, 10 steps back ~ Jagex.
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Everyone complaining about MTX, and when MTX gets nerfed, suddenly everyone is complaining it's nerfed?
Dxp tokens aren't p2w though lmfao, they're earned during dxp, they didn't nerf mtx at all 😂😂 what are you smokin @@pondracek
@@pondracek people will always complain about something. the whales hate not being able to speed run the xp simulator known as RS3.
@@pondracek dxp tokens are not mtx, the bundles are mtx 😅
@@pondracekThats mtx nerf? Because protean still gets wayy more than normal way.. meaning people would like to buy more stuff to get the proteans. Thats not mtx Nerf.
they killed off our boy Nic
F for nic
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First Vic, now Nic. Sadge :c
I interacted with Nic more than anything else associated with DXP for years now. Having Vic back would be great too.
o7
"What can we do to make more money?"
"Make shit more expensive?"
"Fookin genius!"
Not to mention that before, selling an hour to Trader Stan got you 2 large stars (or huge, I can't remember) and now selling it for tokens gets you 2/3 of a large star.
to be fair i was able to buy all outfits first dxp so now i have no need for them, i can see why they want to slow it down
they don't like when player start to enjoy the game, "suffer more, cry about it and stfu".
Maybe they're listening to old players finally. I love the nerf. Games too easy now
@@doubleagentgaming5689 hundred percent agreed, this game too easy nowadays, "i suffered and therefore so should you".
@@tehpucukrawangi If you think actually playing the game is suffering, you should probably play something else.
@@doubleagentgaming5689 then nerf the protean rate for getting tokens as well as normal token rates
I always felt like they should never have brought the tokens out. At least before when you saw people have sets you knew they'd put work in, i.e minigames. Minigames were already dead and the only incentive to do some was to get a set. Like the herblore set. They made mini games even more redundant by releasing tokens.
I also noticed that they finally added the Lunarfury armor to the DXP store. Neat, since I hadn't completed that one completed yet.
I wanted to finish collecting the cosmetics from the dxp weekend store, because I always buy every cosmic first before ever thinking of touching XP stuff
Besides all the mentioned issues, I have another one: the Herald's Outfit. It was originally released as 4 tokens in Treasure Hunter. I managed to get 3 out of 4 tokens, only leaving the Herald's Hat unobtained. How is it fair that I have to pay the same price as someone who didn't get any tokens back then? Why not release the 4 tokens as they were originally, or give a 12.5k token discount per previously unlocked token?
"The token rates are fine as it is. You can get tokens faster by buying proteans and dummies."
-Jagex probably
Sigh ... this really didn't need a re-balance, especially such as drastic one. Fingers crossed they reverse course.
They won't. They are stupid or they are shaking their heads because the boss wants more mtx. Either way, they won't fix it. They reach out to the masses for creativity, then they bitch slap you.
The only sellable inside the dxp token store the oil of enchantment was amped up from 5000 to 9500
Bought some yesterday off ge for 7.5m also
3.5 hours in, all protean hides on a portable crafter, 8440 tokens
Some people keep referring to an "early bird bonus". Can anyone explain what they're referring to?
The players who got their tokens pre-nerf compared to post-nerf
@@felxstorm Thanks!
I'm happy they finally added Lunarfury outfit pieces. I've need just the legs for years 😊
Exactly the same, I was missing the legs too.
It seems like it is rng based and I've got some strange things happening like 2 on in a row, meaning that it procs when you get xp of any kind? I'm not sure but for regular skilling, at the very least, the distribution is way way off.
Thats the point, you can't get decent amount of DXP tokens so you buy it instead by giving you an incentive to buy more keys to get proteans and dummies in order to get those DXP tokens, with the red proteans introduced as well to dilute the prize table for less xp during dxp, you will be spending more money on keys and so on, it all started with the oddments nerf.
its been about $$ since 2012, RS3 is for whales to enjoy, casuals have been on the backburner since.
And people will drive up the bond price to acquire more keys too, this feeds the MTX monster further, as people are more inclined to spend irl money on bonds to then sell for in-game gp
My thought it I thought these were supposed to be like seren spirits, but they aren't because I get seren spirits more often than dxp spirits. I would love them to add maybe a rare drop table spawn and maybe 100 tokens per spawn, if they keep the RNG mechanic, otherwise yeah just have one appear every couple minutes with guaranteed tokens. I'd also just remove the dummy and protean tokens per item too.
As a different note why don't combat dummies support necromancy yet Jagex?
hahahaha, it's so bad that it's laughable. This is my first dxp since returning so I get bent over for not partaking in the previous 2.
Same man first DXP since 2012 for me. The only reason I am getting tokens is that I've done 50+ quests in the past week or two, which gave me 100 keys, which in turn gave me proteans & some dummies lol
RS3 is a cash grab game, its just an xp simulator with some rpg elements thrown in for flavour and to make you think theres an actual game.
Ignoring the bad faith post above me, skilling outfits just aren't necessary for pretty much anything other than getting 200m xp in a skill, which is absurd and most sane players just stop at 99. It's not a big loss.
Not defending Jagex's dumbassery but skilling outfits just don't matter too much in the longrun.
dxp is almost free, you are getting almost free stuff and complain about it. Besides, idk what are you talking about, I'm getting the normal amount of dxp tokens, already got 2 full sets just from yesterday.
wonder if they gonna tell us "Less is more"
I’m trying to get back into RS and it’s the first time I see this tokenns. I did mostly porteans, I got enought to get full prayer gear and 2 pieces of the summoning.
I think they are making the game way easier then what it used to be, I was surprised of how easily you can get to 99 nowadays.
I felt that it was already cheap enough 3.2k per piece, thats incredible. Plus double xp. It’s already easy enough.
protoxx, Rarely comment namely because i just figured out its below a billion vids keep on em they were just gulped up by a company so i hope they actually care now but you vids are great something to watch while im playin i hope you have a great day
Been doing DXP/FIREMAKING for hours and hours and hardly received any tokens. Won't buy keys anymore. Simply means levelling takes a little longer
Increased the price. Hard-core decreased the rate you get the tokens. Just remove the damn thing altogether. Why ruin what everyone liked. Jagex needs serious help.
Man am I glad I got all of my skilling outfits the last 2 double xp events 😊
I remember starting when there was a crafting event exp on I got to 99 and it killed the game for me,
and now that they have increased prices they have double killed it for me sadly ill never play again
I feel like I started playing this game again at the worst time possible...
RS3 is for whales.
Classic Jagex.
One step forward, one step back.
Just a little something that may help you all out a little bit i been playing rs long time had 800 elite combat dummies i am killing 3 in 120 seconds with mellee with good equip so even if no great equip should be able to kill say 3 every 2 min thats 240 tokens in 2 minutes 7200 tokens per hour. Hope this helps im doing this just for the bxp and to train mellee
glad I grinded so hard for tokens the last two dxps and got virtually everything. Only things I needed this dxp were 2 of the 4 dungeoneering elite outfits, originally planned to get both and have tokens to spare, not Im not sure i will even get a single one rip.
Fyi the way you calculated your percentages is incorrect. At 1:37 you said from 8k to 10k is a 20% increase. That is incorrect it is a 25% increase because 1.25*8k =10k. You have to base your percentages off the original value not the new value.
Oh I know. I just made a stupid mistake there haha, ty for pointing it out!
when you say "and enjoy and it fades out, it really bothers me
i was wondering why i was getting more seren spirits than DXP spirits
Just wondering why not the double exp is 1.05 already for F2P......................
I had 49k dxp tokens saved up from when I was going for the ranger outfit last DXP. It ended right before I got the 50k so I just said oh well, I'll just wait for the next time and get it then. Then they took it out and traded it for a cosmetic token you can buy for cheap on the GE already T.T
1 hour of time grinding = 400 Tokens.
1 hour of time sold in DXP store = 2000 Tokens.
It's 5 times more tokens exchanging DXP time with considerably less effort to do so. This shouldn't be the case. Exchanging DXP is for players who know they won't be doing things with DXP and won't care to recoup some quicker but lesser rewards. In this case players who want to use their DXP and play the game in doing so are getting sub-optimal tokens.
And here i thought id use the tokens to buy outfits i might need for the new skilling boss thats coming later this year since im maxed and bored
I am very happy I bought literally everything last DXP lol. I have noticed I get a lot more tokens while using proteans? I was getting a lot less while training Necro (Rituals).
Why would we want dxp to be the best way to get your skilling outfits? Isn’t that bad for the health of the game and already established content that can be improved?
I wouldn't be surprised if they hotfix this on Monday after everyone has already burned through a lot of their protean items/dxp time. They just wanted to see if people would complain.
Its a key push for money. Jagex did just get bought, now they want the money back.
Why does the rs community whine about not getting free xp and having to play the game?
*uses slightly satirical and excited voice*"annnnd jagex nerfed dxp tokens into the ground"
Thank goodness I finished the last elite outfits last dxpw. I avoid using proteans anyway when I'm hunting for pets
you also get tokens while double xp tokens while the double xp is turned off
Man am I so glad I got all the skilling outfits LAST dxp event, b/c this would've been a slap to the face.
is it really that hard to play the game and obtain stuff through gameplay and not expect to get everything for free while bankstanding in fort.
I don't know if you noticed but I also think they nerfed Seren Spirits and Blessings of the Gods spawn rates.... which definitely makes me feel cheated.
Vic the trader shop should be in the shop
I’m lucky that I’m sitting on 177k tokens on my main from the last 2 dxp events. This time around I have nothing to spend them on.
If we weren’t being pissed on and told that it’s raining I would be inclined to throw some towards lamps/ stars, etc. I’ve recently started up an alt account and it took over 2 hours before both accounts saw their first spirit for dxp tokens. Wtf man.
What is the slowest skill in rs3? In osrs it used to runecrafting.
Archeology or Divination imo
@@Comment66nowhere close
Archaeology is nowhere close to the slowest skill and divination speeds up significantly after 80
Fishing and wc have some of the lowest xp rates even at the higher end of the skills
Raw training without mtx stuff, WC might be the slowest. If including MTX stuff, probably agility because it does not have the strongest options for massive xp gains but does include passive gains through silverhawks, which is nice.
Without proteans, fishing/wc/rc are all pretty on-par for being the slowest. Agi is up there too.
@@Comment66I got 200m arch in 2 days 🤣🤣
what runecrafting alter is that??
Soul. You access it through the Menaphos quest line
Bro idk what you guys ark talking about. You get 4 tokens per protein and 80 upon completion of a dummy. It was the exact same as the last double xp... they only changed it for when your not using proteins or dummys.
I haven't played since dxp first started. I just been using a few dummies and I haven't gotten any tokens. At first I didn't see the perfect cuz I was still getting 80 tokens per dummy. Now I'm using 5 or 6 before getting 80.
I mean, most people have the skilling token stuff they wanted from the past two dps, no? So people like me are just going to be tanking the price of oil of enchantments with all our tokens this time
Funny how the best way to farm tokens is to do triple combat dummies. If you had a stack it's easy, if not you're screwed.
Ngl: I stopped playing because of the lack of content. I considered coming back during DXP after hearing about the upcoming content. I waited just to see, and sure enough, they showed some hard greed (again). At this point, I'm just waiting for Brighter Shores.
the ability to make something deadcontent by jagex just amazes me every time.
well their priorities are $$, not your enjoyment. RS3 is for whales, not casuals
I think this is a good change since there is usually 4 dxp per year. Unlocking that much in just one event might not make sense.
So the nerf was not a bad decision I guess?
My unfounded conspiracy theory is that they are trying to purge proteans and dummies from the playerbase, NOT that they're trying to sell more MTX. They want people to use them so they can be replaced/reworked at a lower rate (see: unstable proteans). I just wish if this was the case they'd just tell us.
The Message came down from on high, "kill Protean use!"
Erik, het is indd te lekker weer om ons hier druk om te maken. Ze doen wat goed maar daar tegen over is altijd iets wat ruk is. Long Live Jagex lol
Zo gaat het als maar door hahaha, bizar he 🤣
Ik snap wel waarom ze zoiets zouden doen, want had vorige DXP amper iets gedaan en heb de hele shop leeg kunnen kopen. Ik had ongeveer de helft al, maar een actieve nieuweling had gewoon alle items kunnen unlocken. Zo heeft veel gameplay of toekomstige DXP tokens ook vrijwel geen waarde meer. Mijn probleem is vooral dat
A. MTX items wel belachelijk snel tokens blijven geven, wat weer een extra pay-2-win spin eraan geeft, en
B. Dit weeral niet is gecommuniceerd. Hoe moeilijk is het om zoiets te vermelden met een paar zinnetjes aan redenering? Het zou ze een hoop frustratie vanuit de spelers schelen als ze dit wel aan hadden gegeven.
It should be designed that a single player can purchase every item in the shop if they use up all of their bxp timer. Simple. No rng. Just a balanced rate based on the total cost of the store divided by 48, spread across at whatever increment comes out to. Seems like common sense to me but jagex and common sense don’t go hand in hand.
You said it, get more points from proteans. How do you get proteans? MTX...
I mean... They don't owe us free skilling boost items. Sure it was nice last time but I think we can agree that it was way too lucrative. It did need to be nerfed, they just didn't get it right.
The amount we got before was very broken. I bought 6 different full skilling outfits and every slayer mask in a single DXP event. This time it is nerfed so players don’t just jump ahead and get free items that normally take hours and hours to achieve. This is how it should be. Before was very broken and way too easy.
What are the best things to buy?
head addons and outfits that you need and are painfull to grind. For elite outfits, one shark outfit alone is incredibly good and I'd recommend getting them one by one.
It's exactly going like I "predicted" (told) when Jagex was bought over for $1.1B dollars..
- More rewards if you buy keys = More keys being sold for people who NEED this DXP event for training = More profit.
- Less rewards for those who already pay (membership) to play, means even they will be annoyed and consider perhaps MTX = More profit.
- The unannounced nerf is a low strategy of Jagex because they know people will create content, meaning more people will know (again) about DXP and tokens and will login... see their dummies / proteans, use them all and be annoyed by the nerf... even they (returning members) will consider MTX = More profit.
All Jagex been doing lately is typical "business school books" after purchasing a company. They make easy adjustments and sell keys. They use different items which cost nothing to program (unstable proteans) and so on.
I don't like it, but business wise it's huge tricky to get more revenue this way... it works but it's not helping on the longterm.
People will be less excited about the next DXP event this way.
sorry but 8 000 tokens to 10 000 tokens isn't +20%, but +25% (10 000/ 8 000 = 1.25, hence 25%)
Once every 20-30 minutes sounds about right. I also got a 80 token drop
After 24 hours ive gotten 22k tokens no proteans, I seemed to be getting the most procs from safe cracking.
I had a feeling they were going to nerf it
Not so bad! Who remembers when you actually had to work for a level up 😂
I honestly thought it was broken, I played for about 7 hours and hardly got any tokens.
People will complain about not getting their tokens as fast as before, its still better than not having dxp tokens at all. But when it comes to hero pass buffs it's evil because mtx.
This nerf was needed, before anyone could buy out the store in one dxp event.
I got about 19k tokens in about 10 hours of playing that includes maybe 15 skilling dummies and about 3-4k proteans
am i the only one who didnt get hit with a 'nerf'? i played for about 5-6 hours and had about 14000 tokens that 'session'
They ruined the dxp event after dropping the roadmap and doing this is embarrassing not informing the player base of a major change
Damn they really gutted the dxp tokens... I think everyone can agree they were a bit overtuned the last dxp's, but the prices increase combine with the huge rate nerf now just feels awful.
sitting on 170k dxp token from last one, early bird special
I knew something was off when I didn't get a spirit.. every 3mins
I was planning to get the thieving outfits this DXP, RIP.
Dbl exp times are free, the things are free. Be happy with things you get.
Yall are tripping. This is only my third dxp event and i have already purchased almost the entire store. After the first one i literally was able to buy every single skilling outfit piece and a couple pieces of elite skilling outfits. After the second one i got several complete elite outfits. This nerf was downright necessary. You shouldn't be able to buy the entire store in one or two events, that was absolutely ridiculous.
Too nerfed, a nerf wasn't unjustified, but if you hadn't bought out the store and were getting next to none you'd be pretty bummed.
@answerth you do realize you can obtain all those items thru normal gameplay too, right? It was absolutely busted that you could just skip all that content and obtain all those over powered items in just ten day's time. Why even bother playing the game if you can just skip it all and get everything for free? Imo this game has already become too afk. It's really refreshing to see Jagex breaking away from that model. There are plenty of other games on the app store that allow you to just click once and walk away for 10 min at a time, you're certainly free to give any of them a try.
@@joshmonaco6170 Yep, and im grateful for the store. But as you said yourself "I already purchased the entire store". We can both agree the rate was way too fast. It's glacial now without proteans. Just take some away from proteans and make the standard rate a big higher is not a big ask. Playing for like 40-60 hours this dxp yielded like 15k tokens maybe before proteans, so at that rate, it's many years for someone to buy out the store. Easy for you to say it's fine when you already have all of them and didn't need to do the the even longer, often garbage grinds to get some of them. I don't like to AFK, I prefer sweaty pvm, so im good on games that you don't need to actively play lol.
@answerth I think you're still missing the point... you shouldn't be able to just buy out the whole store in the first place. Every single item in that store is available in game thru normal game play, you just have to play the game. Personally, the time i spent earning those outfit pieces legitimately was some of the most fun I've had playing the game. They're all from different mini games and various ways to mix up traditional game play. If I wanted to play afk arena I'd just download that
seems to me like they want people to buy keys, to get proteans/dummies, so they can go on expensive vacations (I know nothing)
Players Complaining: Mainscape just hands you everything. Don’t have to work for anything!
Players Also Complaining: OMG THEY PULLED BACK HOW EASY IT WAS TO GET ***EXTRA*** EXTRA XP AND OUTFITS YOU USED TO HAVE TO EARN!!!!!
Always a lose/lose with this community.
I've been using Proteans so I hadn't noticed this yet. God, I'm fucking tired of this Early Bird Bonus bullshit they've been doing lately. *You* may not be annoyed, Protoxx, but I am. This is just bullshit because now it feels like unless you nolife everything for the first two weeks (which I can't fucking do due to having a job, frequent migraines, etc) or you get absolutely fucked over to a varying degree of severity.
Well, thank you for sharing, Protoxx.
very good constructive criticism
Every time I come back after a bad update annoyed me and I think I'll give it another go at dxp they do more stupid crap
Wonder whats on the plate for jagex next month. What other greed tactics will be shown
This is the mainscape problem I'm too ironman too understand
Wow. Inflation is even affecting Runescape now?
Mod keeper was lying to you so much that jagex fired him in broad daylight