Off topic, but I just realized you're probably the most upstanding uncorrupted large TechTuber on this platform: You don't have any sponsors, refuse to receive items for launch reviews, heck, even your merch isn't outsourced somewhere and is literally manufactured by your sister. In this day and age, you're truly one of a kind and I hope you stay that way for as long as you're doing this!
@@xtechtips152 I haven’t asked them they’re just an online friend so we don’t talk that much. I only know his specs because I was trying to help him fix a issue with his pc. He doesn’t even know his own specs so I doubt he knows how much he paid.
I love the fact that your channel tends to focus more on low end hardware. Especially with the gpu and cpu market being what they are right now I think there's still a lot of people out there playing on old hardware and it's nice to see that. I like building low spec gaming pcs from older hardware as a hobby and I think it's a very good thing to try and reuse the parts as opposed to letting them go to the landfill as e-waste. And I do like the fact that you don't have a bunch of sponsors etc as we can pretty much count on your videos being your honest opinion. Keep up the good work!
It's ALWAYS the gpu. ALWAYS. I'm pretty sure like an i3-2100 would max out most GPU's. I mean maybe not, but if you have like any reasonable processor from the last 5 years - it's always the GPU that's going to be holding you bacl
I have the mesh version of that chassi. There's a fan controller tucked in somewhere that is ONLY controllable by a wireless remote and the fans has custom connectors. They are, however, using standard addressable RGB diodes inside the fans so you can modify them for regular use if you really wanted to :)
@@RandomGaminginHD I’ve had this case and I think you can also control it by connecting the reset switch to the control box. I think I spotted the ‘box’ in the basement on the side of the drive bay.
Your production style is pretty good now. Suits your content really well. I'm loving the paint splattered B-roll display chair, its works so well. Great improvement in the last 6 months
Looking forward to more videos on this, as I’ve got the exact same system which was purchased new back in early 2019. All I’ve done with it is increase the memory to 16gb and update the bios, but have recently been thinking of possible further upgrades.
@@DeerJerky Nah, it's been a bit of a semi myth for a while now. Even Linus managed to show it a year or two ago with his secret shopper series - a couple of the PCs they got were massively better value than building your own, with all off the shelf parts. Before the GPU price increase. Certain names have always commanded a price, and still do. But even they can be got cheaper than building in sales and promotions if you are patient. And you can add in the always better warranty, central warranty so you don't have to figure out what is broken, no worries about damaging components while building then you can't return it, support (to varying degrees, but still support), a copy of Windows included, etc, etc. If you go back to the 90s, and early 00s though then you are completely right.
@@wyterabitt2149 The individual parts have warranty, and if you built it yourself, well you can support it yourself. Windows is technically free, especially if you just hwid it.
@@wyterabitt2149 Not to mention its not even difficult to find out which part is faulty and practically every UA-camr knows its cheaper to build your own outside of the GPU shortage
That case I believe is the CIT Raider, to get the fans to spin you need to look for the fan hub, you can see that at 3:52 on the right hand side labelled “BOX” there will be two little pins on it that you want to short out with something like a old motherboard jumper and they should spin right up.
I'm running a 2300X now, but I'm running 2933 MHz RAM with fairly tight timings. This CPU is impressive for only being 4/4 c/t, and out of the box it will boost to 3.87 GHz all cores (roughly 800 MHz more than a stock 1200). About half of retailers here sold this CPU, so it was quite easy to buy until mid last year. Now I can only find it sold by two retailers. Red Dead Redemption 2 runs well on it too.
That case is the CIT Raider RGB. Usually it has an RGB Fan controller included which allows for the motherboard reset switch to be connected for fan control. Might be why the fans aren't spinning.
I'm intimately familiar with this case and other CIT cases, honestly this PC looks a LOT like one of the PCs we make at the UK-based pc store I work at, almost thought it could be one of ours because we sell on ebay but the stickers on the front don't look like the ones we use. CIT cases tend to be fine, especially for the price, if you want RGB these things can come in full ATX sizes with tempered glass and many included ARGB fans for under 60 GBP, even less when you bulk order them hence why a lot of pc vendors will use these. I've found them to be very temperamental (around 1 in 8 will end up having some sort of fault, especially the raiders cause those fan controllers suck, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you found a couple of the fan controller ports bent or broken because getting the fan connectors in is a nightmare.) It might also interest you to know that CIT recently released an 'airflow' focused version of this exact case, might be a cool video idea to to a comparison with this system having the tempered glass front panel vs the new airflow one.
I bought a 2300x a few weeks back for about 80USD, for a secondary system, and it performs well enough for the price. Definitely wish it was threaded, but as a test machine CPU it works out just fine. Glad to see someone do more with it
The case is a CIT Raider. The fan/LED controller (with the BOX label on it) should come with a remote control. As the fans use a proprietary connector for both the LEDs and the fan power, there is unfortunately no way to connect them to the board, and the controller doesn't have a PWM sync cable. The only way to get those fans working to my knowledge would be with a replacement remote (unless of course you were supplied with the original). Source: I work for a system integrator and we use CIT cases.
I was not aware there was an R3 2300X. So that was fun to learn. As an enthusiast PC builder, for some reason enjoy tinkering with Franken PC's and lower end builds more than modern and powerful builds. This channel is great for experiencing all kinds of crappy and cool hardware. Good stuff! =)
I had a supplier thatd sell me 570s for 80$ a piece and ive built so many computers with about these specs. id usually do 16gbs of ram and a SSD though.
32GB is the new 16GB. when i had 16GB i was maxing that out playing cyberpunk or microsoft flight sim 2020 it was so maxed out on ram that it would stutter since putting 32GB in my pc that stutter has went away it uses about 20GB ram now i got 10GB headroom but still uses more than 16GB in latest games its only gonna get worse best use 32GB, 16GB is nothing these days im not even playing at 4k still on 1080p my ram was been eaten alive.
@@NightOwlGames 16gb of ram is still enough for most. Considering you play flight simulator i bet you have some really nice specs that actually benefit from 32gb,but that's not the case of everyone. And some might not be able to just double their ram price too.
2300X is notably different than it's predecesors in a way that unlike the Ryzen 3 1200 and 1300X, 2300 is a full single CCX (4+0) with all the L3 cache enabled vs two CCX with two cores enabled (2+2) and half of the L3 in each, makes it a huge disavantage vs 2300X single CCX config, Ryzen 5 2500X is another example since is also a a 4+0 config as well, but with SMT enabled to make it 4C/8T rather than 4C/4T in the 2300X
Prebuilds are good idea now, especially with the prices lately- i have a ryzen 3100, 1650 super gddr6 asus model, 256 ssd, 1tb hdd and 8gb ram prebuild from a UK company that was 650 quid last black friday, a bios update and some 16gb ddr4 3600 ram added and its more than just a solid 1080p build, singleplay games are very much okay in 1440p.
My old I7-3770k is starting to break a sweat when it comes to the newest games available. Still plays games very well and has similar figures to what you've shown here. Here's my overall specs. I7-3770k @ 4.4Ghz GTX 1070 SC 16GB (4x4 @ 1600mhz) ASUS ROG GENE-Z Motherboard 1000Watt Coolermaster 80+ Bronze Older Corsair AIO cooler for CPU. The case is a desk. it's got two huge fans on left and right with a glass top with half inch clearance for airflow. Very custom.
I've got a 570 but the 8 gig version and I have found it copes extremely well with anything and since going onto fibre and putting in a 2800 spec SSD in the machine my Ryzen 5 just breezes through anything and now am producing full 1080p videos in super fast render times at an avg of 110+ fps. The motherboard is an A type Asrock but it does the job superbly despite being a bit lower drawer, I am aiming to up the cooling as Davinci does make it pop off to 55 degs on Coretemp, not a biggie but after years of super low temps thanks to my Cooler Master V8 I want to be sure of not toasting my components lol I may well hard pipe water cool, its weird your fans are off, my rear exhaust fan has stopped and its a fairly recent fan too, not a problem as my case is the Coolermaster HAF XM and I got two 240mm fans twirling away plus some 120's, 2 to pull in fresh air and two to rear exhaust fresh air, front 240 pulls in fresh and top 240 expels it but my cats love it being a warm air spot hehe
I legit almost have this exact pc besides my graphics card being an RX 560 instead of RX 570 and my motherboard and psu are different. CPU is the exact same. Bought it off of my friend for 200$ last year. RDR2 runs at about 30-35 FPS (medium/high settings) with occasional dips below 30. I haven’t had many problems with the computer and it runs modern titles just fine for me. Keep up the great content btw!
An RX 570 in the current market goes for about $150+ if you're is lucky to even find one. So for £365 on the used market, that is a nice system for anyone wanting a solid budget rig. 2300X (4c, 4t) + RX 570 is more than capable enough to run most eSports titles at high framerates.
I do find good deals on a store that only exist in my country, the thing is i can’t pay because i’m only 14, just take a look to see what’s up, find one with 500$ that have a ryzen 3 3100 pair with a msi gtx 1050ti, they also gift some logitech keyboard and mouse for free if you bought that computer as well, all i have to buy next is a headset and monitor, also a hard drive to store games since the computer only have a 128gb ssd, but no matter how good the deal is, i can’t get them, my mom obviously will not pay as she doesn’t even pay for a controller that i wants to play some games on this iPad, can’t blame her i guess, me eating is already too much, even though i’m as skinny as ever, probably cause i’m an adolescent nerd
For the price that's actually a pretty well-balanced system. When you go to tinker just keep in mind a second generation ryzen maxes out at 2933 megahertz memory with two single rank 8gb sticks. From there your mileage will vary. My 2700x hates anything above that, and I did manage to get dual rank working at 2866 which is a really weird frequency.
You can mount the front fans from inside so that way you will geta gap between glass panel and the fans and the fans would suck in the air from side vents. this may affect the look of the case but will definitely provide better airflow
I have 3300X with stock cooler stable at 4350 GHz, with RX 580 Sapphire Nitro 4GB version with 1411 clock speed with x2 8GB XPG 3000Mhz Ram and I want to say, it runs smooth as heck in the new triple-A titles, like AC Valhalla I can get over 65 FPS with Medium settings in populated areas + with no stutters or freezes. I won't even speak about games from 2020 or below. This PC setup is compatible with 2021. and the most fun thing is RX 580 Cards are super hot, but my runs at 48C all the time fully loaded with ambient 25-28. got case with 5 DeepCool 120MM fans 3 intakes 2 exhaust. tho I recommend removing the front panel for intake fans, a huge temperature boost.
@@looweegee252 how could they stutter with 6 cores and 6 threads but run smooth on 4 cores and 8 threads? You lose two virtual cores but gain two physical cores
@@Malohdek it's because all the cores on the 3300x are on a single ccx (which is what they did with ryzen 5000 which proved to significantly improve performance) while the cores on the 3500x are laid on a different diagram which adds additional latency for the cores to communicate and therefore less frames with 3500x, but it still should be better in some cases where more cores are concern because it has a bigger cache and more cores
@@AnjuDevi-in4bx That and the fact that 8 threads is superior to 6 cores. Look dude, you can be confused but don't be rude about it and then pretend to know what you're talking about. You're a Narcissistic prick.
Watching this to give me a break on how to use Davinci Resolve. Have you ever had to do colour correction on Davinci Resolve? Its very difficult! Also AWD-IT are great, got my 5800X bundle from them.
I actually have this prebuilt except I'm using the gigabyte RX 570. This video was quite helpful because I also experience those micro freezes quite alot and never understood why.
Witcher 3 engine is building up shader cache on the go when you play the game for the first time on a fresh system - that's why you see some stutter which is later gone. I was worried about my system when I i first player Witcher, but later on I discovered that these stutters are in fact intended and Red Engine is just built this way. Whenever You start playing another game/reinstall drivers etc, Shader cache file will be deleted and you have to start building it again (that is the case with Nvidia).
I still don't know how you are able to get reasonable specs for a reasonable price. For me all prices have shot up, even with older cpus and gpus I found an rx 570 for €300 and that was the cheapest one. It's insane.
Wow i built this in june 2020 with same prices about 500$ 2300x RX560D 16GB RAM B450M SSD 128 1 TB HDD PSU 550 w Tempered glass Case with 6 RGB fan Nice video, thanks.. 👍👍👍 Someday i'll try RDR 🤣
I bought a 2300X off FB marketplace in a bundle with some cheap RAM and a 1650 (similar to a 570 i think?) for £100.. bargain. I didn't realise they were that rare/unknown tbh. It outperformed a 3200G anyway and i sold it all in a build for £500 with an A320 (B350 chipset), 120gb nvme boot/1tb hdd, Corsair PSU and 1st player case (hinged glass door, two 140mm RGB front fans w/mesh front - they stopped doing them probably because they undercut the same Kolink citadel rgb by at least 10 quid).
I have the same-looking GPU, but with 8GB VRAM, a nice BIOS mod with far better VRAM timings and paired with a 1600AF@3.8ghz. I have never seen the CPU going over 40% while gaming. The Polaris cards can all be BIOS-modded with gains of over 10% in some cases from tuning the VRAM timings alone.
Maaaan, the lighting in the introduction was really bad... made you look 70 years old :D If it concerns you, you can shine a lamp on a wall in front of you, to make it more even (or mount some kind of diffusor - cloth on it) I'm saying because it actually bothered me haha Keep on posting man
As always I am having to turn the volume up for your video and then turn it back down when the next one from another channel plays. So are you sure you have the microphone close enough while recording?
The case is a CiT Raider RGB, the fans aren't spinning because it requires a remote which has a fan button with 3 speed settings as well as the usual RGB controls... a way around this issue is to wire the the fan port of the RGB controller, which is a labelled 'BOX' to the reset switch of the case... (literally plug the reset switch cable into the RGB / Fan controller)... the CiT Raider is a nice case for a micro Atx budget build, I have 2 of them... but the airflow from the front is poor & the space for cable management or builds including full ATX mobos sucks... Anyway... hope this helps... maybe a fix in a follow up video?...
I've had a 2600x since they came out and honestly I've never ever ever gotten it to above 60% on high and ultra on all games. I got an AIO cooler on it with a slight overclock and honestly its an amazing cpu. It is paired with a colorful Gtx 1070 and it runs everything. I've been playing a ton of VR lately with Samsung odyssey and it runs perfectly 4k 90fps.
2nd Hand prebuilts are the way!!! I recently got an i5-4670K, RX480 4GB, 16GB RAM, 126GB SSD and 1TB HDD PC all for £300!, I got a 2nd hand prebuilt WITHOUT a GPU for £215 and filled it in a 480
I've been playing through TW3 for the last couple of days and have the microstutter on my 3600 + 5700xt pc as well. Quickly searched on the internet and it's not an uncommon problem on different hardware as well, regardless of if you have the game installed on an hdd or an ssd.
Hey RGinHD, really like watching your Videos, but could you please include per core utilization on the CPU side, to show a more accurate picture of the CPU's power. Thanks :)
Had a similar issue with Red Dead 2 with my 2700X, I updated the motherboard bios and the game worked fine afterwards. You could give that a try and see if it fixes the issue with Red Dead 2
I managed to get a prebuilt off awd.it with a ryzen5 3500x and an rtx 3060 and all consumer grade parts for less than £1000, when the full sized card alone is selling for over £600 So in my opinion that isn't too bad for a pre-assembled system
Hi, nice review (as always :) ) You have probably said before, but, if don't mind the question: How do you overlay your system stats? Thanks for the content.
I have a 3700x. I also have a gpu 1650s. My original cpu was a R5/3500. When i replaced my cpu my multiplayer fps nearly went up 50%, It was around 40-50% depending on how low i go on Resolution scaling. Now I am not great with pc tech but i was told too focus on a new gpu, That the R5/R7 were so close in performance I would not notice that much of an improvement. My Geekbench 5 score outperformed a 3800xt and a 3900x in multicore with 9,328 points.
My point is game performance can and often does rely also on a good cpu.If your cpu is too weak it will make a 1080ti underperform to the effect where it gets beat by my 1650s,i seen it with my own eyes.
As far as I remember the RX570 struggles with shader performance, although not as much as the 550 obviously :P It's got good bandwidth and texture/model heavy games should do fine on it, but post processing will kill performance. A Hat In Time is actually surprisingly performance heavy, an RX550 needs to be dropped to 720p to get any kind of playable performance. Might be worth adding to the list.
I upgraded a computer recently and have almost the exact components, only difference is I have an Asrock a320 motherboard. I'm using the parts to build a mini computer for a friend's daughter as a b-day gift. I was wondering how the pc would run and now I know.
Once Again: Could you include the release year for each game in the summary? I think it really helps putting the performance of weaker hardware in perspective.
There are large vents on the front to allow air to enter the fans. Did you bother to test the fans or get them working? Did you check the paste on the GPU or the CPU? This is a second hand product so before running it for more than a moment without checking it thoroughly would nit be setting a good example.
might I make a suggestion. Could you please turn the volume up on your videos after you edit them? your videos are always way lower in volume then other you tube videos(maybe just for me but not sure how that would work).
Hey RGinHd ,not sure about you,but my eBay is flooded with obvious scams for graphics cards ,,,it's usually someone else's listing ,,, copy pasted for £100 Instead of the real price ,, always obvious it's not legit BC they say they have lots of stock instead of a one of card ,just an FYI ,Nd something to look out for ,since I think they are getting alot of less discerning buyers ,Nd your platform Nd reach could help to show them up . Anyway ,great vid as usual .
@@RandomGaminginHD Appreciate your attention. I'v been watching you for over 3 years (sorta silent viewer) and MAN O MAN .. The Intro's been the same since then . Love From PAKISTAN .
Also if you didn't receive the ir remote for the fans , they might've been switched off beforehand, mine does this sometimes out of nowhere even with the fan hub, so I use the remote to switch them back to full
I got a refurb HP Ryzen 3600 with 1650 Super for $425 a while back. I still think that's a pretty good deal. Though I would have gladly paid extra for the 1660 Super for a real 1080p sweet spot.
This is like a slightly overclocked R3 1200 AF (which boost just to max 3.7 Ghz, compared to 4.0 GHz on the 2300X). So the 2300X is a better fit for an A320 board. Better choice than an old i5 2-4gen (unless you can OC that i5-2500K to 5 GHz)
I personally wouldn't buy 4Thread CPUs anymore, if you intend to play some newer games or keep the system for a while. there are some used cheap ryzen 1400/1500x/1600 That said I still upgraded my dads system from a celeron g540 to an i5 2400 for 10 bucks and an old hd7850 (nice vid btw) for 35 bucks and another 4gb stick for 10 bucks. turned out to be a pretty neat machine if a friend comes over
Thank you :) I'm open to sponsors of products I actually like, but I've never seen the point in promoting the same terrible mobile games you probably always hear about
I paired in my old PC a Pentium G4560 with a RX 570 and it was a pretty perfect combination. Some Games were bottlenecked by the GPU, some by the CPU. This Ryzen is way better then the old Pentium, i predicted the bottlenecking of the 570 at the start of the video
I'm always a bit shocked and disappointed at the number of pre-built "gaming" PCs that have all glass front panels that completely obstruct proper ventilation! Gamers Nexus has had a field day with other pre-built PCs that have the exact same issue over the past couple of years. The worst part is a good case like the Lian Li 215 doesn't cost a whole lot more, has fans with built in RGB and crazy good air flow since the front is see thru mesh instead of glass. Still though it's not a bad PC for someone wanting to get their foot into PC gaming and play more of the lighter e-sport type games with.
Off topic, but I just realized you're probably the most upstanding uncorrupted large TechTuber on this platform: You don't have any sponsors, refuse to receive items for launch reviews, heck, even your merch isn't outsourced somewhere and is literally manufactured by your sister. In this day and age, you're truly one of a kind and I hope you stay that way for as long as you're doing this!
:)
Whats wrong with receiving items for launch review if its their job?
@@ChronicalV yeah idk what his problem is with that
@@ChronicalV Sometimes there are conditions and strings attached that aren't made known to the viewers.
Sponsors aren't corruption though
I didn’t even know the 2300x existed
i thought it was a myth
I thought it was a legend.
It did i mean alot of people forgot about 2nd gen ryzen lol
Same lol
Same
prebuilt companies be like: yes lets put this ITX motherboard in a (relatively) giant ATX case
haha I did the same but it was more like ... bught itx noise and heat... damng I need to go bigger and was easier to not replace the lot
Yes lets put this thing we got for cheap in this case.
Yeah so they think the case looks big and powerful
@@WayStedYou Yes lets put this thing we got for cheap in this REALLY cheap case we already have. I mean, I would. So would you.
Like the engine bay of a 1300cc Capri!
An RX 570.
An elusive product in today's day and age.
I have that you bit h
will sell you one gladly, or rather would
4gig version also?
@@frogmanmaster1237 how much
@@bayenkg 500 dollars no less, I know what I have.
my friend has a 2300x prebuilt so this is interesting... With an rx570 too.
it did have an ssd though.
how much did he pay for it?
My friend too lol
@@someonehere4380 idk he’s just an online friend
@@hollol5933 Online friends doesn't pay money for PC?
@@xtechtips152 I haven’t asked them they’re just an online friend so we don’t talk that much. I only know his specs because I was trying to help him fix a issue with his pc. He doesn’t even know his own specs so I doubt he knows how much he paid.
I love the fact that your channel tends to focus more on low end hardware. Especially with the gpu and cpu market being what they are right now I think there's still a lot of people out there playing on old hardware and it's nice to see that. I like building low spec gaming pcs from older hardware as a hobby and I think it's a very good thing to try and reuse the parts as opposed to letting them go to the landfill as e-waste. And I do like the fact that you don't have a bunch of sponsors etc as we can pretty much count on your videos being your honest opinion. Keep up the good work!
Early for a change. A little surprised that the video card was a bottleneck here and there this time. Thought for sure that CPU would have been.
yeah same :)
@@RandomGaminginHD Nice video treat for a cold Saturday over here :)
It's ALWAYS the gpu. ALWAYS. I'm pretty sure like an i3-2100 would max out most GPU's. I mean maybe not, but if you have like any reasonable processor from the last 5 years - it's always the GPU that's going to be holding you bacl
@@hansolo631 Depends what you’re running it with, for example an i3 8100 would definitely bottleneck a RTX 3090 at 1080p and 1440p
@@TechnoLadz Ha! You mean in theory! Good luck getting a 3090 for the experiment :)
Hitches and micro freezes can also be because you have a hard drive and not an SSD.
Bingo, this definitely looks like a asset streaming issue.
We struggling to get one part and this guy's getting whole
Systems every week
yeah, because he is looking in a marketplace 24/7 so its a hardwork too👍🏼
@@MYVISIONISKRYSTALKLEAR oh really?? Did you make him tea while we was on the market 24/7?? Did you help him potty too?!
@@SuperLaziboi if you cant find one just say it🤣, i got i5-9400f B365-pro 2x8 ram and ssd 240gb for only $ 130
@@SuperLaziboi it took me months to find a good deal like that. I've been looking at the marketplace for 4-5 months 2-3 hours a day
@@MYVISIONISKRYSTALKLEAR 'Hardwork'? Is that like homework?
The tech channel that I watch the most. Thanks for another awesome video!
Thanks for watching :)
ngl this guy should have nearly as much subscribers as the bigger tech youtubers like Linus or Bitwit
He'll get there eventually I think. Just takes longer unless you upload literally every day basically, like LTT does
I have the mesh version of that chassi.
There's a fan controller tucked in somewhere that is ONLY controllable by a wireless remote and the fans has custom connectors.
They are, however, using standard addressable RGB diodes inside the fans so you can modify them for regular use if you really wanted to :)
Oh good to know. That's so silly that they are remote controlled. I wonder if that was in the box I threw out haha
@@RandomGaminginHD I’ve had this case and I think you can also control it by connecting the reset switch to the control box. I think I spotted the ‘box’ in the basement on the side of the drive bay.
@@Capr15un yeah a friend of mine has the same case and i saw the same fan controller box in his case. Didn't know for the reset switch tho.
Your production style is pretty good now. Suits your content really well. I'm loving the paint splattered B-roll display chair, its works so well. Great improvement in the last 6 months
Looking forward to more videos on this, as I’ve got the exact same system which was purchased new back in early 2019. All I’ve done with it is increase the memory to 16gb and update the bios, but have recently been thinking of possible further upgrades.
You know the world isn't the same when a prebuild it's more rentable than making your own pc ;-;
It's actually been the case for a long time, as long as you look around and do your research. Even before the gpu price issues.
@@wyterabitt2149 not in the US, before GPUs, build your own has pretty much always been much cheaper
@@DeerJerky Nah, it's been a bit of a semi myth for a while now. Even Linus managed to show it a year or two ago with his secret shopper series - a couple of the PCs they got were massively better value than building your own, with all off the shelf parts. Before the GPU price increase.
Certain names have always commanded a price, and still do. But even they can be got cheaper than building in sales and promotions if you are patient. And you can add in the always better warranty, central warranty so you don't have to figure out what is broken, no worries about damaging components while building then you can't return it, support (to varying degrees, but still support), a copy of Windows included, etc, etc.
If you go back to the 90s, and early 00s though then you are completely right.
@@wyterabitt2149 The individual parts have warranty, and if you built it yourself, well you can support it yourself. Windows is technically free, especially if you just hwid it.
@@wyterabitt2149 Not to mention its not even difficult to find out which part is faulty and practically every UA-camr knows its cheaper to build your own outside of the GPU shortage
That case I believe is the CIT Raider, to get the fans to spin you need to look for the fan hub, you can see that at 3:52 on the right hand side labelled “BOX” there will be two little pins on it that you want to short out with something like a old motherboard jumper and they should spin right up.
I'm running a 2300X now, but I'm running 2933 MHz RAM with fairly tight timings. This CPU is impressive for only being 4/4 c/t, and out of the box it will boost to 3.87 GHz all cores (roughly 800 MHz more than a stock 1200).
About half of retailers here sold this CPU, so it was quite easy to buy until mid last year. Now I can only find it sold by two retailers. Red Dead Redemption 2 runs well on it too.
That case is the CIT Raider RGB. Usually it has an RGB Fan controller included which allows for the motherboard reset switch to be connected for fan control. Might be why the fans aren't spinning.
I'm intimately familiar with this case and other CIT cases, honestly this PC looks a LOT like one of the PCs we make at the UK-based pc store I work at, almost thought it could be one of ours because we sell on ebay but the stickers on the front don't look like the ones we use. CIT cases tend to be fine, especially for the price, if you want RGB these things can come in full ATX sizes with tempered glass and many included ARGB fans for under 60 GBP, even less when you bulk order them hence why a lot of pc vendors will use these. I've found them to be very temperamental (around 1 in 8 will end up having some sort of fault, especially the raiders cause those fan controllers suck, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you found a couple of the fan controller ports bent or broken because getting the fan connectors in is a nightmare.) It might also interest you to know that CIT recently released an 'airflow' focused version of this exact case, might be a cool video idea to to a comparison with this system having the tempered glass front panel vs the new airflow one.
I could only get the RGB to change, not the fan speed or to turn them off using the switch method.
I bought a 2300x a few weeks back for about 80USD, for a secondary system, and it performs well enough for the price. Definitely wish it was threaded, but as a test machine CPU it works out just fine. Glad to see someone do more with it
The case is a CIT Raider. The fan/LED controller (with the BOX label on it) should come with a remote control. As the fans use a proprietary connector for both the LEDs and the fan power, there is unfortunately no way to connect them to the board, and the controller doesn't have a PWM sync cable. The only way to get those fans working to my knowledge would be with a replacement remote (unless of course you were supplied with the original).
Source: I work for a system integrator and we use CIT cases.
I was not aware there was an R3 2300X. So that was fun to learn.
As an enthusiast PC builder, for some reason enjoy tinkering with Franken PC's and lower end builds more than modern and powerful builds. This channel is great for experiencing all kinds of crappy and cool hardware. Good stuff! =)
after a long painful day, I come back to this beautiful piece of art, thank you soooo much.
I had a supplier thatd sell me 570s for 80$ a piece and ive built so many computers with about these specs. id usually do 16gbs of ram and a SSD though.
that's awesome, and a great price considering the current market
32GB is the new 16GB. when i had 16GB i was maxing that out playing cyberpunk or microsoft flight sim 2020 it was so maxed out on ram that it would stutter since putting 32GB in my pc that stutter has went away it uses about 20GB ram now i got 10GB headroom but still uses more than 16GB in latest games its only gonna get worse best use 32GB, 16GB is nothing these days im not even playing at 4k still on 1080p my ram was been eaten alive.
@@NightOwlGames 16gb of ram is still enough for most. Considering you play flight simulator i bet you have some really nice specs that actually benefit from 32gb,but that's not the case of everyone. And some might not be able to just double their ram price too.
@@swagie_ 16GB is more than enough for gta5, rdr2, fortnite i agree but there comes a time when you hit a brick wall with other games.
@@NightOwlGames haha ik, but most of the time the rest of the hardware will also struggle, that's what i was tryna say
Would you be able to maybe compare old Nvidia and amd cards such as the gtx 780 to and 970 on their 1080p performance these days?
He tested a lot of different cards in recent months, pretty sure he did a comparison of both nvidia and amd flagships throught their generations.
780 aged poorly,, the 970 though is still solid that performs around as well as a rx 580
2300X is notably different than it's predecesors in a way that unlike the Ryzen 3 1200 and 1300X, 2300 is a full single CCX (4+0) with all the L3 cache enabled vs two CCX with two cores enabled (2+2) and half of the L3 in each, makes it a huge disavantage vs 2300X single CCX config, Ryzen 5 2500X is another example since is also a a 4+0 config as well, but with SMT enabled to make it 4C/8T rather than 4C/4T in the 2300X
I Really missed those budget builds
Nice Video
Prebuilds are good idea now, especially with the prices lately- i have a ryzen 3100, 1650 super gddr6 asus model, 256 ssd, 1tb hdd and 8gb ram prebuild from a UK company that was 650 quid last black friday, a bios update and some 16gb ddr4 3600 ram added and its more than just a solid 1080p build, singleplay games are very much okay in 1440p.
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My old I7-3770k is starting to break a sweat when it comes to the newest games available. Still plays games very well and has similar figures to what you've shown here.
Here's my overall specs.
I7-3770k @ 4.4Ghz
GTX 1070 SC
16GB (4x4 @ 1600mhz)
ASUS ROG GENE-Z Motherboard
1000Watt Coolermaster 80+ Bronze
Older Corsair AIO cooler for CPU.
The case is a desk. it's got two huge fans on left and right with a glass top with half inch clearance for airflow. Very custom.
I've got a 570 but the 8 gig version and I have found it copes extremely well with anything and since going onto fibre and putting in a 2800 spec SSD in the machine my Ryzen 5 just breezes through anything and now am producing full 1080p videos in super fast render times at an avg of 110+ fps. The motherboard is an A type Asrock but it does the job superbly despite being a bit lower drawer, I am aiming to up the cooling as Davinci does make it pop off to 55 degs on Coretemp, not a biggie but after years of super low temps thanks to my Cooler Master V8 I want to be sure of not toasting my components lol I may well hard pipe water cool, its weird your fans are off, my rear exhaust fan has stopped and its a fairly recent fan too, not a problem as my case is the Coolermaster HAF XM and I got two 240mm fans twirling away plus some 120's, 2 to pull in fresh air and two to rear exhaust fresh air, front 240 pulls in fresh and top 240 expels it but my cats love it being a warm air spot hehe
Just recently bought a cheap gaming PC on ebay as well. The Lenovo Ideacenter T540.
i5-9400, GTX1650,8GB DDR4 Ram, 256GB SSD+1TB HDD for 350€.
I legit almost have this exact pc besides my graphics card being an RX 560 instead of RX 570 and my motherboard and psu are different. CPU is the exact same. Bought it off of my friend for 200$ last year. RDR2 runs at about 30-35 FPS (medium/high settings) with occasional dips below 30. I haven’t had many problems with the computer and it runs modern titles just fine for me. Keep up the great content btw!
Just curious did you download and install the AMD chipset drivers? Those older Ryzen CPUS can really benefit from the Ryzen power plans
An RX 570 in the current market goes for about $150+ if you're is lucky to even find one. So for £365 on the used market, that is a nice system for anyone wanting a solid budget rig. 2300X (4c, 4t) + RX 570 is more than capable enough to run most eSports titles at high framerates.
I envy you. i cannot find anything with the spec with the reasonable price that you found. But where's the GTA 5 test?
I do find good deals on a store that only exist in my country, the thing is i can’t pay because i’m only 14, just take a look to see what’s up, find one with 500$ that have a ryzen 3 3100 pair with a msi gtx 1050ti, they also gift some logitech keyboard and mouse for free if you bought that computer as well, all i have to buy next is a headset and monitor, also a hard drive to store games since the computer only have a 128gb ssd, but no matter how good the deal is, i can’t get them, my mom obviously will not pay as she doesn’t even pay for a controller that i wants to play some games on this iPad, can’t blame her i guess, me eating is already too much, even though i’m as skinny as ever, probably cause i’m an adolescent nerd
For the price that's actually a pretty well-balanced system.
When you go to tinker just keep in mind a second generation ryzen maxes out at 2933 megahertz memory with two single rank 8gb sticks. From there your mileage will vary. My 2700x hates anything above that, and I did manage to get dual rank working at 2866 which is a really weird frequency.
You can mount the front fans from inside so that way you will geta gap between glass panel and the fans and the fans would suck in the air from side vents. this may affect the look of the case but will definitely provide better airflow
I have 3300X with stock cooler stable at 4350 GHz, with RX 580 Sapphire Nitro 4GB version with 1411 clock speed with x2 8GB XPG 3000Mhz Ram and I want to say, it runs smooth as heck in the new triple-A titles, like AC Valhalla I can get over 65 FPS with Medium settings in populated areas + with no stutters or freezes. I won't even speak about games from 2020 or below. This PC setup is compatible with 2021. and the most fun thing is RX 580 Cards are super hot, but my runs at 48C all the time fully loaded with ambient 25-28. got case with 5 DeepCool 120MM fans 3 intakes 2 exhaust. tho I recommend removing the front panel for intake fans, a huge temperature boost.
4C/8T may be becoming the minimum, but what about a 6C/6T vs 4C/8T video, with the respective Ryznes and/or i5/7s?
True some games stutter on 6c/6t
@@looweegee252 how could they stutter with 6 cores and 6 threads but run smooth on 4 cores and 8 threads? You lose two virtual cores but gain two physical cores
@@AnjuDevi-in4bx It's weird but games seem to run better on the 3300x than the 3500x.
@@Malohdek it's because all the cores on the 3300x are on a single ccx (which is what they did with ryzen 5000 which proved to significantly improve performance) while the cores on the 3500x are laid on a different diagram which adds additional latency for the cores to communicate and therefore less frames with 3500x, but it still should be better in some cases where more cores are concern because it has a bigger cache and more cores
@@AnjuDevi-in4bx That and the fact that 8 threads is superior to 6 cores.
Look dude, you can be confused but don't be rude about it and then pretend to know what you're talking about.
You're a Narcissistic prick.
Watching this to give me a break on how to use Davinci Resolve. Have you ever had to do colour correction on Davinci Resolve? Its very difficult!
Also AWD-IT are great, got my 5800X bundle from them.
Yeah I use davinci and agree haha, great free software though
I actually have this prebuilt except I'm using the gigabyte RX 570. This video was quite helpful because I also experience those micro freezes quite alot and never understood why.
Never saw them lower 2000 series chips. But those [OG] 1000 Ryzens do pop up, including an obscure 1500
Witcher 3 engine is building up shader cache on the go when you play the game for the first time on a fresh system - that's why you see some stutter which is later gone. I was worried about my system when I i first player Witcher, but later on I discovered that these stutters are in fact intended and Red Engine is just built this way. Whenever You start playing another game/reinstall drivers etc, Shader cache file will be deleted and you have to start building it again (that is the case with Nvidia).
I still don't know how you are able to get reasonable specs for a reasonable price. For me all prices have shot up, even with older cpus and gpus I found an rx 570 for €300 and that was the cheapest one. It's insane.
Wow i built this in june 2020 with same prices about 500$
2300x
RX560D
16GB RAM
B450M
SSD 128
1 TB HDD
PSU 550 w
Tempered glass Case with 6 RGB fan
Nice video, thanks.. 👍👍👍
Someday i'll try RDR 🤣
I got a 2300x for 60 euros new with 3 years of warranty, still rocking great with my RX570
in times like this, this is incredible value
True
I bought a 2300X off FB marketplace in a bundle with some cheap RAM and a 1650 (similar to a 570 i think?) for £100.. bargain. I didn't realise they were that rare/unknown tbh.
It outperformed a 3200G anyway and i sold it all in a build for £500 with an A320 (B350 chipset), 120gb nvme boot/1tb hdd, Corsair PSU and 1st player case (hinged glass door, two 140mm RGB front fans w/mesh front - they stopped doing them probably because they undercut the same Kolink citadel rgb by at least 10 quid).
You would of found a 570 for 300 at that price rn, great find
would've*
"would of" is not grammatically correct.
@@BennyGoId I don't think I asked lmfao, who tf cares
@@BennyGoId thanks for corecting! it would of been a real shame if he didn't not know he maked a mistake than.
Hi,it's a good PSU !!!
Btw,that XFX 570 is probably,an xMiner card.
Me thinks,so DO check the firmware on it!!!
I keep focusing on the reflection on the TV lol
another epic video, i just find this content so good i could watch it everyday.
I have the same-looking GPU, but with 8GB VRAM, a nice BIOS mod with far better VRAM timings and paired with a 1600AF@3.8ghz. I have never seen the CPU going over 40% while gaming. The Polaris cards can all be BIOS-modded with gains of over 10% in some cases from tuning the VRAM timings alone.
Maaaan, the lighting in the introduction was really bad... made you look 70 years old :D
If it concerns you, you can shine a lamp on a wall in front of you, to make it more even (or mount some kind of diffusor - cloth on it)
I'm saying because it actually bothered me haha
Keep on posting man
Faster larger ram kit, and an SSD would make this significantly more usable. I would bet the 1% lows would improve quite a bit.
Could you possibly compare this to a fx 8350 or 6350? I love all your vids but I do miss some of those comparison videos
yeah I was thinking that as I was making the video. I think this probably beats both of those to be honest
@@RandomGaminginHD Ok thank you. Keep up the great work! You're by far the best channel on youtube
As always I am having to turn the volume up for your video and then turn it back down when the next one from another channel plays. So are you sure you have the microphone close enough while recording?
I think you should check the GPU in single player games at 30 FPS. Let us have a constant comparison on the GPU performance.
I have been watching your videos for 2yrs. Love from India.
The case is a CiT Raider RGB, the fans aren't spinning because it requires a remote which has a fan button with 3 speed settings as well as the usual RGB controls... a way around this issue is to wire the the fan port of the RGB controller, which is a labelled 'BOX' to the reset switch of the case... (literally plug the reset switch cable into the RGB / Fan controller)... the CiT Raider is a nice case for a micro Atx budget build, I have 2 of them... but the airflow from the front is poor & the space for cable management or builds including full ATX mobos sucks... Anyway... hope this helps... maybe a fix in a follow up video?...
Dude you got an amazing deal, in my country the 570 alone is going for $380 usd (4GB)
I've had a 2600x since they came out and honestly I've never ever ever gotten it to above 60% on high and ultra on all games. I got an AIO cooler on it with a slight overclock and honestly its an amazing cpu. It is paired with a colorful Gtx 1070 and it runs everything. I've been playing a ton of VR lately with Samsung odyssey and it runs perfectly 4k 90fps.
2nd Hand prebuilts are the way!!! I recently got an i5-4670K, RX480 4GB, 16GB RAM, 126GB SSD and 1TB HDD PC all for £300!, I got a 2nd hand prebuilt WITHOUT a GPU for £215 and filled it in a 480
Ryzen Master can be useful to overclock the CPU and RAM on some (AMD) pre-built systems that don't have the options in Bios.
Damn I remember when you had 10K subscribers!
I've been playing through TW3 for the last couple of days and have the microstutter on my 3600 + 5700xt pc as well. Quickly searched on the internet and it's not an uncommon problem on different hardware as well, regardless of if you have the game installed on an hdd or an ssd.
Hey RGinHD, really like watching your Videos, but could you please include per core utilization on the CPU side, to show a more accurate picture of the CPU's power. Thanks :)
Had a similar issue with Red Dead 2 with my 2700X, I updated the motherboard bios and the game worked fine afterwards. You could give that a try and see if it fixes the issue with Red Dead 2
No GTA V?! Seriously?! Maybe you forgot!!! But we love to see you benchmarking it!💜
I managed to get a prebuilt off awd.it with a ryzen5 3500x and an rtx 3060 and all consumer grade parts for less than £1000, when the full sized card alone is selling for over £600 So in my opinion that isn't too bad for a pre-assembled system
Hi, nice review (as always :) ) You have probably said before, but, if don't mind the question: How do you overlay your system stats? Thanks for the content.
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Not a bad lil system really 😊 look forward to more videos on it
I can hear Dawid screaming from here because your prebuild did came with dual channel RAM without having to threat anyone.
hey there, you can find 3300x bundles by ccl on ebay for not bad prices.
Pretty much all cheaper pre-builts care about is the appearance of the fans and rgb lights.
I have a 3700x.
I also have a gpu 1650s.
My original cpu was a R5/3500.
When i replaced my cpu my multiplayer fps nearly went up 50%,
It was around 40-50% depending on how low i go on Resolution scaling.
Now I am not great with pc tech but i was told too focus on a new gpu,
That the R5/R7 were so close in performance I would not notice that much of an improvement.
My Geekbench 5 score outperformed a 3800xt and a 3900x in multicore with 9,328 points.
My point is game performance can and often does rely also on a good cpu.If your cpu is too weak it will make a 1080ti underperform to the effect where it gets beat by my 1650s,i seen it with my own eyes.
As far as I remember the RX570 struggles with shader performance, although not as much as the 550 obviously :P It's got good bandwidth and texture/model heavy games should do fine on it, but post processing will kill performance.
A Hat In Time is actually surprisingly performance heavy, an RX550 needs to be dropped to 720p to get any kind of playable performance. Might be worth adding to the list.
I upgraded a computer recently and have almost the exact components, only difference is I have an Asrock a320 motherboard. I'm using the parts to build a mini computer for a friend's daughter as a b-day gift. I was wondering how the pc would run and now I know.
Once Again: Could you include the release year for each game in the summary? I think it really helps putting the performance of weaker hardware in perspective.
There are large vents on the front to allow air to enter the fans. Did you bother to test the fans or get them working? Did you check the paste on the GPU or the CPU? This is a second hand product so before running it for more than a moment without checking it thoroughly would nit be setting a good example.
might I make a suggestion. Could you please turn the volume up on your videos after you edit them? your videos are always way lower in volume then other you tube videos(maybe just for me but not sure how that would work).
Hey RGinHd ,not sure about you,but my eBay is flooded with obvious scams for graphics cards ,,,it's usually someone else's listing ,,, copy pasted for £100 Instead of the real price ,, always obvious it's not legit BC they say they have lots of stock instead of a one of card ,just an FYI ,Nd something to look out for ,since I think they are getting alot of less discerning buyers ,Nd your platform Nd reach could help to show them up . Anyway ,great vid as usual .
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I’ve got a 3300x awesome chip just runs little hot with stock cooler still runs at 4.250 stock boost clock
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I suspect that some of the stutter issues and RDR2 crashing on startup are related to only having 8GB of RAM.
Also if you didn't receive the ir remote for the fans , they might've been switched off beforehand, mine does this sometimes out of nowhere even with the fan hub, so I use the remote to switch them back to full
I got a refurb HP Ryzen 3600 with 1650 Super for $425 a while back. I still think that's a pretty good deal. Though I would have gladly paid extra for the 1660 Super for a real 1080p sweet spot.
This is like a slightly overclocked R3 1200 AF (which boost just to max 3.7 Ghz, compared to 4.0 GHz on the 2300X). So the 2300X is a better fit for an A320 board. Better choice than an old i5 2-4gen (unless you can OC that i5-2500K to 5 GHz)
Don't forget to try and overclock the ram. Had some 3000mhz i overclocked to 3200mhz and worked great.
I personally wouldn't buy 4Thread CPUs anymore, if you intend to play some newer games or keep the system for a while. there are some used cheap ryzen 1400/1500x/1600
That said I still upgraded my dads system from a celeron g540 to an i5 2400 for 10 bucks and an old hd7850 (nice vid btw) for 35 bucks and another 4gb stick for 10 bucks.
turned out to be a pretty neat machine if a friend comes over
I just picked up a mobo cpu ram psu gpu combo for 140 usd and it has a 2300x in it. Pretty good deal.
Bought a Ryzen 3 2300x, ASRock motherboard and 8gb ddr4 3000 for $100 today. Seemed like a pretty good deal😀
thanks for the video you helped me👍
I have an r7 2700 and rx570 on a 1440p ultrawide and it runs the games I play quite well
Hey, I just want to say you're one of my fav tech/pc creators and I think it's crazy how you never put in ads. I wouldn't mind if you did, honestly
Thank you :) I'm open to sponsors of products I actually like, but I've never seen the point in promoting the same terrible mobile games you probably always hear about
for the heck of it i would try process lasso and set the cpu below normal on the cpu intensive games and aswell try ISLC
The micro freezes on The Witcher 3 happen to me even with an R7 2700.
I paired in my old PC a Pentium G4560 with a RX 570 and it was a pretty perfect combination. Some Games were bottlenecked by the GPU, some by the CPU. This Ryzen is way better then the old Pentium, i predicted the bottlenecking of the 570 at the start of the video
I'm always a bit shocked and disappointed at the number of pre-built "gaming" PCs that have all glass front panels that completely obstruct proper ventilation! Gamers Nexus has had a field day with other pre-built PCs that have the exact same issue over the past couple of years.
The worst part is a good case like the Lian Li 215 doesn't cost a whole lot more, has fans with built in RGB and crazy good air flow since the front is see thru mesh instead of glass.
Still though it's not a bad PC for someone wanting to get their foot into PC gaming and play more of the lighter e-sport type games with.