I see a lot of people saying don't blame Islam when it is only a handful that are extremist but is it really only a handful and not Islam mentality itself that is the problem? For example the Muslim guest on this show from Doha, "condemns" the killing but at the same time thinks that those killings were a natural reaction for insulting Islam. He is saying why do people have to draw it in the first place? Which questions the "drawing" instead of the killing. That to me paints the typical muslim mindset. China and Japan have been insulting each and are deeply divided on their WWII history to a point of calls for boycott and mass protest. Are Chinese men going around Japanese buildings and shooting them? To even think of it is so outrages to a point of it being taken as a joke but for muslims it is just a "natural reaction".
isn't it amazing that the only person on this show who is talking about democracy and freedom of speech in a western country is the one classed as far right extremist?
It was interesting to see how the questioner's focus -- on how this incident will play into the far-right narrative of Muslim values being incompatible with European values -- was essentially rejected by all three of his guests. Rather than focusing on this group or that group's feelings of incompatibility, let us take a moment to realize that "live and let live" Europe is not essentially to blame for "incompatibility". Europe needs to keep working harder to integrate into their societies the people who work so hard to build its economy. But vigilante religionism is illegal and not welcome in Europe; the people are (but they will be satirized like everybody else--welcome).
Funny that they have a Muslim host who is asking these questions. Murray is absolutely right. Instead of addressing the issue he is going around in circles.
I realise the huge majority of Muslims in the world are kind, decent people, but there are still very serious problems that Muslims need to acknowledge and not merely sweep under the rug. - There is no objective method of correctly interpreting the Quran or Hadith. If you are really going to imply that because of their interpretation extremists do not represent Islam than it is equally fair to say that nobody does. As much as we'd hate to admit it, the Quran is able to be interpreted in a violent way which is a large problem on it's own. We need to be honest and admit that this is something that simply couldn't be done under the teachings of other religions like Buddhism or Jainism. Islam unfortunately, is more prone to violence than other religions and sadly in todays world that's seen as a controversial thing to say when it shouldn't be. [WE NEED TO STOP BLAMING MUSLIMS BUT AT THE SAME TIME STOP PRETENDING LIKE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAMIC SCRIPTURE!]
KurdFromNL That makes sense in very specific situations. However shooting people because of a cartoon depiction of Muhammad is clearly not self defence.
I would say that ANY Muslim who takes the Quran seriously and literally will by nature be violent and intolerant, just like false prophet Muhammad was as history tells us. Muhammad was a caravan thief, a murderer, a liar, a rapist and a child molester ... hardly someone we should imitate in our lives.
Douglas is absolutely right. The rhetoric of this ‘journalist’ was diverting from the cause of the problem, trying somehow turn it to reaction from ‘far-right’. Worrying how French, that he called ‘far right’ would react to these murders. Bringing Muslim cartoonist who posing his stupid questions undermining European values of free speech. ‘Oh why would anyone want to draw Mohammad bla bla bla’. The question is not why, the question is that in free society people are entitled to it. There should be really short talk to people like that, if you don’t like there is the door. It’s astonishing that no one from so called ‘religion of peace’ condemns these attacks, no protests, no support of the victims. I mean they should be really defend the idea that their religion is compatible with western values if they believe it is. But they do not. It gets to a point where the West have to separate fully church and the state, removing any privileges for any religions that still exist in their countries in order to get Islam loose these privileges as well. This is the only Europe can get rid of Islam.
Who is this Murray? He has the temperament of a typical extremist or fascist but clouded in a good education... The sight of an arab presenter closed his ears spouting out a rant. I wouldn't like to debate Murray, he would go fifth gear without one saying a word.
***** Selective Libertarian. He avoided host's direct question about growing negative perception about Muslims in Europe -- excusing himself with "how dare you ask such question on the eve of a massacre" rant. But on his next opportunity to speak (forgetfull of his previous excuse) he threw in some inflammatory words about rampant Anti-Semetism in the ME while dismissing growing Islamophobia in Europe and in the Middle East (Israel).
***** no he's not an extremist or fascist but his temperament is of that type... Again your very much like Murray misunderstanding probably looking too deep into my comments and being drawn into all Muslims are acting victimised hype.
Plus check out Murray's negative body language (arms crossed and sour demeanor) prior to interview. He already held pre-conceived notions from the outset. He came across as a brat to me.
I was arrested and reprimanded just few hours ago whilst testing my freedom of speech on a police officer, i said "Good evening bitch!". Wtf?! im not even living in a muslim country and muslim laws. Before i was released, the officer told me "Luckily, you were stopped by me, if it were some other officer they wouldve been offended and gave you a beating, learn some respect son".
An opinion can be offending, but that does not mean one should apply self censorship. I would never go as far with my freedom of speech as Charlie Hebdo did, because I think you're offending people without reason, but if people want to offend, go ahead. I for one am sometimes offend because Muslim friends of mine say I will go to hell because I don't believe in Islam, but should I kill them? No, of course not. I think you need to have the right to do whatever you want but you must never use violence.
Simple rule: rights come along with responsibilities. Rights are not risk-free, yes you can draw whatever the fuck you like, but as this Douglas dude said "Muslims should not expect non-muslims to obey the islamic values", one should not expect that they can just offend and insult others, without enraging some to the point that they want to kill you. It's like I have the freedom of going up to a girl on the street and say "fuck you bitch", but I cannot expect that she is not going to give me a slap on my face.
you are comparing the slap on a face with 12 people executed in cold blood...are you seriously doing this?. Freedom of speech IS PRECISELY to speak up your mind without expecting to be killed for it, you might be hated for your expression or in some countries even jailed for a while depending of the country, but not EXECUTED for it. Again THIS IS A WESTERN, DEMOCRATIC value, IF MUSLIMS don't like it or just don't get it, then must consider to go and live in Saudi Arabia, period!... If I for example dare to go to Iran, I will be forced to use veil as a woman, then, likewise Muslims must understand the Western values when living there...
biosnap nope, you're having a jumping logic and some pre-assumptions here. Ever in my comment, have I justified the "slap over my face"? No, I never tried to justify that. I was only saying that there are consequences to consider, but not justifying the consequences. And more importantly, as much as I could then sue the woman for "physical assault" as she slapped me, those 3 killers will be brought to court and sued for whatever crime it's called. One can never be 100% sure that she/he will not be killed next morning, but laws exist to assure us that those who commit murder will pay their price too. And this is also the method how "the western democratic value" is enforced. After-all, it's not like these gunmen could kill and walkaway and never brought to justice (like how some countries with "western democratic values" could wage wars causing millions of death over either some empty accusations or set-up false-flags, and just get away with it) And please... don't act like "OMFG WE HAVE WESTERN DEMOCRATIC VALUES!!!! U LIVE UNDER MY ROOF, SO U GO BY MY RULES" and that sort of shit, people kill for many different, often ridiculous reasons here in the west as well. If you were sitting right in front of me with a gun and I said all these to your face, you'd probably have shot me already.
unbeliveable to compare such things, shame on you for trying to justify such an horrendous actwhilst defending the idelogy that caused it. according to your reasoning, people critisiing hitler back in 1940 had to expect death "deservingly". to state something like that speaks of enourmous stupidity and lack of thinking things through
7PropagandaPanda7 Please refer to my first reply to biosnap and please point to me where in my sentence have I justified the "slap" or the killing? the killers of this incident are different from a government of a region with no freedom of speech, because these governments have the power to get away with what they do, while these killers will be arrested and brought to justice. The freedom of speech is fundamentally being protected by the law, that if someone kills me for what I say they will pay the price too. I think things through, while some of you seem to only think things through half-way.
XiangC6 Lol. Your logic is totally stupid. Yeah, if someone was driving a Ferrari and carrying a suitcase full of cash in the middle of the night in bad parts of Detroit, and then he got robbed, he made a stupid choice. But that still doesn't cover the fact that he is a VICTIM. Should he do it? No. But that still doesn't mean the crime is not a crime or his action is responsible for the crime. It is the one who decided to rob him who should be totally responsible for the crime. It doesn't matter what Charlie published. They don't deserve to die. There is no respect if you expect to be respected with death threats.
This is not a debate that can be won with words but rather superiority of our weapons and tactics to devide and concur. Everybody can condemn and give all this strong words but they don't change nothing. Actions speak louder than words.
i agree.. ignorance and being disrespectfull is not freedom of speech.. # martin luther king, ghandi, thats an example of what freedom of speech, dude. not provoking, by being ignorant or else this world wouid be full of hate, wer wars will kick off, if everyone started doing it. ok.
"i don't condone what happened but to insult a race, religion or ethnic group is not freedom of speech but hate speech." Saying "yo mama is so so fat" is not in ANY way on the same level as "you should be killed". Religions deserve all the insult and criticism that comes to them. Why? For the same reason other ideologies do.
Rasel Rejy "...martin luther king, ghandi, thats an example of what freedom of speech, dude. not provoking..." Many found their speeches provoking and offensive. In fact, many white supremacists felt that the speeches of MLK needed to be silenced because they found it offensive, the very same justification that the shooters of the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists had. In fact, it's a pretty similar justification that even a lot of PC liberals give too- those cartoonists were just too insulting! "...by being ignorant or else this world wouid be full of hate, wer wars will kick off, if everyone started doing it." I think the hate and ignorance has a lot to do with religion and what it preaches.
Id make sure you never attend a comedy event then you soft fairy, imagine being that offended of being mocked on a platform where EVERYONE is mocked that you think you should have special treatment, what kinda self righteous bullshit is that
I am still offended by the idea of a cartoon (not seen it but hey - the very idea !!)that was intended to look like Mo - but actually was just a cartoon , so perhaps i should not be . Talk about sensitive perhaps they are insecure because they realise it is all BS
orlando what you just wrote is an example of a no good ignorant little boy. you have to respect other religeons and prophets, i wouidnt say anything bad about jesus regarding your comment cos he is a prophet or son of god to many and must be respected highly. respect love and unity will bring humanity toghther, ok. #peace
So I watched a video tonight of Dire Straights and I thought, where is the musim equivalent. There isn't one. I've watched other vids of the Eagles, Stones, and so on, and wondered where is the muslim equivalent. There isn't one. I've thought of Archimedes, Fleming, Einstein and others, and wondered, where is the muslim equivalent. There isn't one. I've thought of Turner, and others of intellect and artistry and I've thought, where are the muslims. Nowhere. They have contributed nothing to human advancement for more than centuries. They are stuck in a time warp, and their only response is violence. We have a simple choice - either accept that which is in our midst, or destroy it before it destroys us.
This is the first time I watched an Al Jazeera show, I have to admit that no matter what accusations the guest from London made the fact that the carried on with the show uncut on its presentation really amazes me. I cant imagine western media to show a challenge to their narrative like this on air. Now, which media is really free and which is just a mouth piece for propaganda?
To be honest the interviewer totally owned Murray when Murray tried not to answer the interviewer's opening question, which was sensible, and instead Murray went off on a irrelevant rant @ 5:20. Disappointed in Murray's performance really. I've heard him before and he's usually quite coherent.
False comparison. Youre trying so hard to justify killing of this Abdul just because hes religious feelings are hurt. Muhammad is a person, holocaust is a human tragedy. You can mock or criticize religion and its founders specially Muhammad was an evil person. You cant make fun of holocaust because its a tragedy where a certain group was slaughtered.
Big difference! The victims of the holocaust were real, living people, millions of them brutalised, tortured & killed. Mohammed is just a fictional character, he wasn't murdered!! One stupid story about a "prophet" doesn't equate to a Holocaust and the comparison is just grotesque..
The Quran, The Opening Chapter. 1. In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. 2. Praise be to God, The Cherisher and Sustainer of the Worlds; 3. Most Gracious, Most Merciful; 4. Master of the Day of Judgment. 5. Thee do we worship, And Thine aid we seek. 6. Show us the straight way, 7. The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, Those whose (portion) Is not wrath, And who go not astray.
The cartoonists are to be blamed. They drew the offensive cartoons with the intent to hurt the feelings of muslims. If they didnt draw, nothin happened. Am i wrong?
Douglas Murray nailed it.
he always does
A ridiculous religious idea deserves to be ridiculously criticized, if you tell me I can criticize any idea unless it's not religious is a stupid idea
Nailed it.
All religions are just 6th century dogmatic indoctrination. These idiots want putting down at the local vets . Animals not humans!
It's unbelievable that Islam wants to be able to tell us what we can say and do in our own country
@@ruthbashford3176 more unbelievable that people agree to do so out of fear
I see a lot of people saying don't blame Islam when it is only a handful that are extremist but is it really only a handful and not Islam mentality itself that is the problem?
For example the Muslim guest on this show from Doha, "condemns" the killing but at the same time thinks that those killings were a natural reaction for insulting Islam. He is saying why do people have to draw it in the first place? Which questions the "drawing" instead of the killing. That to me paints the typical muslim mindset.
China and Japan have been insulting each and are deeply divided on their WWII history to a point of calls for boycott and mass protest. Are Chinese men going around Japanese buildings and shooting them? To even think of it is so outrages to a point of it being taken as a joke but for muslims it is just a "natural reaction".
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Trust me they always blame cartoonist rather than Terrorist..
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@@Gvjhfxvbn for sure! The west has been terrorizing the world for the benefit of its elites. This doesn’t make my original comment wrong.
Is Islam to blame? Of course not. It's all the fault of the Martians.
It's free speech Islam, who cares if it upsets you!
They care apparently
Murray rocked here.
Douglas Murray is brilliant
Have we discovered the new Christopher Hitchens? I love this 'Douglas' guy.
Exactly what I was thinking
isn't it amazing that the only person on this show who is talking about democracy and freedom of speech in a western country is the one classed as far right extremist?
you’ve got a good point
the english guy is right...
Douglas Murray is a genius.. Actually he always was..! (Y)
Disgraceful rendition by presenter! Murray was the only one talking clear sense here!
It was interesting to see how the questioner's focus -- on how this incident will play into the far-right narrative of Muslim values being incompatible with European values -- was essentially rejected by all three of his guests. Rather than focusing on this group or that group's feelings of incompatibility, let us take a moment to realize that "live and let live" Europe is not essentially to blame for "incompatibility". Europe needs to keep working harder to integrate into their societies the people who work so hard to build its economy. But vigilante religionism is illegal and not welcome in Europe; the people are (but they will be satirized like everybody else--welcome).
Shill: We live in a troubled world, sir.
Rational People: Because people are allowed to harm others when they are offended.
Well done Douglas
Douglas, thanks
Funny that they have a Muslim host who is asking these questions. Murray is absolutely right. Instead of addressing the issue he is going around in circles.
This channel is the voice of extremism..
Douglas is a legend
who else to blame but them?!!!
"5:35" shots fired.
***** you mean a stupid & ignorant mind full of hate..just like yours!
I can't put into words how much I hate Islam and these unmentionables with every inch of my body
I see you :)
Douglas Murray is brilliant!!
I realise the huge majority of Muslims in the world are kind, decent people, but there are still very serious problems that Muslims need to acknowledge and not merely sweep under the rug. - There is no objective method of correctly interpreting the Quran or Hadith. If you are really going to imply that because of their interpretation extremists do not represent Islam than it is equally fair to say that nobody does. As much as we'd hate to admit it, the Quran is able to be interpreted in a violent way which is a large problem on it's own. We need to be honest and admit that this is something that simply couldn't be done under the teachings of other religions like Buddhism or Jainism. Islam unfortunately, is more prone to violence than other religions and sadly in todays world that's seen as a controversial thing to say when it shouldn't be.
[WE NEED TO STOP BLAMING MUSLIMS BUT AT THE SAME TIME STOP PRETENDING LIKE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAMIC SCRIPTURE!]
KurdFromNL That makes sense in very specific situations. However shooting people because of a cartoon depiction of Muhammad is clearly not self defence.
I would say that ANY Muslim who takes the Quran seriously and literally will by nature be violent and intolerant, just like false prophet Muhammad was as history tells us. Muhammad was a caravan thief, a murderer, a liar, a rapist and a child molester ... hardly someone we should imitate in our lives.
Like it how they mention the “ far right “ what did they have to do with it
Douglas owned the guys - well - the 2 guys. And the woman - who at least tried to be a little more moderate... Doha - free press - what tripe.
Who told you that you can be a cartonist as a muslim?
I really don't understand when a person with a premise of Islamic doctrine is infallible... How can you even start a simple conversation?
Haha Murray put that Jazeera interviewer in place - doubt he was invited again - Islamists can't handle him.
Douglas is absolutely right. The rhetoric of this ‘journalist’ was diverting from the cause of the problem, trying somehow turn it to reaction from ‘far-right’. Worrying how French, that he called ‘far right’ would react to these murders. Bringing Muslim cartoonist who posing his stupid questions undermining European values of free speech. ‘Oh why would anyone want to draw Mohammad bla bla bla’. The question is not why, the question is that in free society people are entitled to it. There should be really short talk to people like that, if you don’t like there is the door. It’s astonishing that no one from so called ‘religion of peace’ condemns these attacks, no protests, no support of the victims. I mean they should be really defend the idea that their religion is compatible with western values if they believe it is.
But they do not.
It gets to a point where the West have to separate fully church and the state, removing any privileges for any religions that still exist in their countries in order to get Islam loose these privileges as well. This is the only Europe can get rid of Islam.
If you are offended by a CARTOON, the problem is YOU.
Yes, Islam is to blame.
Why do Al-Jazeera never criticize the human rights violations in Rich arabic countries who have blasphemy laws and no freedom of expression or speech
Dougles murray tears aljazeera apart
Who is this Murray? He has the temperament of a typical extremist or fascist but clouded in a good education... The sight of an arab presenter closed his ears spouting out a rant. I wouldn't like to debate Murray, he would go fifth gear without one saying a word.
yeah he's a temperamental douche, but I guess a combative guest is good for ratings.
***** you what mate? You're sounding like your hero... Did you not understand my comment? Who's acting like a victim?
*****
Selective Libertarian. He avoided host's direct question about growing negative perception about Muslims in Europe -- excusing himself with "how dare you ask such question on the eve of a massacre" rant. But on his next opportunity to speak (forgetfull of his previous excuse) he threw in some inflammatory words about rampant Anti-Semetism in the ME while dismissing growing Islamophobia in Europe and in the Middle East (Israel).
***** no he's not an extremist or fascist but his temperament is of that type...
Again your very much like Murray misunderstanding probably looking too deep into my comments and being drawn into all Muslims are acting victimised hype.
Plus check out Murray's negative body language (arms crossed and sour demeanor) prior to interview. He already held pre-conceived notions from the outset. He came across as a brat to me.
Not really, the only person to blame is the shooter...
I was arrested and reprimanded just few hours ago whilst testing my freedom of speech on a police officer, i said "Good evening bitch!". Wtf?! im not even living in a muslim country and muslim laws. Before i was released, the officer told me "Luckily, you were stopped by me, if it were some other officer they wouldve been offended and gave you a beating, learn some respect son".
வீர வன்னியர் any time lad
Wow! You're alive 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 what an analogy
But you're still alive yeah?
Yes of course Islam is to blame
An opinion can be offending, but that does not mean one should apply self censorship. I would never go as far with my freedom of speech as Charlie Hebdo did, because I think you're offending people without reason, but if people want to offend, go ahead. I for one am sometimes offend because Muslim friends of mine say I will go to hell because I don't believe in Islam, but should I kill them? No, of course not. I think you need to have the right to do whatever you want but you must never use violence.
Douglas Murray won this hands down!
Simple rule: rights come along with responsibilities. Rights are not risk-free, yes you can draw whatever the fuck you like, but as this Douglas dude said "Muslims should not expect non-muslims to obey the islamic values", one should not expect that they can just offend and insult others, without enraging some to the point that they want to kill you.
It's like I have the freedom of going up to a girl on the street and say "fuck you bitch", but I cannot expect that she is not going to give me a slap on my face.
you are comparing the slap on a face with 12 people executed in cold blood...are you seriously doing this?. Freedom of speech IS PRECISELY to speak up your mind without expecting to be killed for it, you might be hated for your expression or in some countries even jailed for a while depending of the country, but not EXECUTED for it. Again THIS IS A WESTERN, DEMOCRATIC value, IF MUSLIMS don't like it or just don't get it, then must consider to go and live in Saudi Arabia, period!... If I for example dare to go to Iran, I will be forced to use veil as a woman, then, likewise Muslims must understand the Western values when living there...
biosnap nope, you're having a jumping logic and some pre-assumptions here.
Ever in my comment, have I justified the "slap over my face"? No, I never tried to justify that. I was only saying that there are consequences to consider, but not justifying the consequences.
And more importantly, as much as I could then sue the woman for "physical assault" as she slapped me, those 3 killers will be brought to court and sued for whatever crime it's called. One can never be 100% sure that she/he will not be killed next morning, but laws exist to assure us that those who commit murder will pay their price too. And this is also the method how "the western democratic value" is enforced. After-all, it's not like these gunmen could kill and walkaway and never brought to justice (like how some countries with "western democratic values" could wage wars causing millions of death over either some empty accusations or set-up false-flags, and just get away with it)
And please... don't act like "OMFG WE HAVE WESTERN DEMOCRATIC VALUES!!!! U LIVE UNDER MY ROOF, SO U GO BY MY RULES" and that sort of shit, people kill for many different, often ridiculous reasons here in the west as well. If you were sitting right in front of me with a gun and I said all these to your face, you'd probably have shot me already.
unbeliveable to compare such things, shame on you for trying to justify such an horrendous actwhilst defending the idelogy that caused it. according to your reasoning, people critisiing hitler back in 1940 had to expect death "deservingly". to state something like that speaks of enourmous stupidity and lack of thinking things through
7PropagandaPanda7 Please refer to my first reply to biosnap and please point to me where in my sentence have I justified the "slap" or the killing? the killers of this incident are different from a government of a region with no freedom of speech, because these governments have the power to get away with what they do, while these killers will be arrested and brought to justice. The freedom of speech is fundamentally being protected by the law, that if someone kills me for what I say they will pay the price too.
I think things through, while some of you seem to only think things through half-way.
XiangC6 Lol. Your logic is totally stupid. Yeah, if someone was driving a Ferrari and carrying a suitcase full of cash in the middle of the night in bad parts of Detroit, and then he got robbed, he made a stupid choice. But that still doesn't cover the fact that he is a VICTIM. Should he do it? No. But that still doesn't mean the crime is not a crime or his action is responsible for the crime. It is the one who decided to rob him who should be totally responsible for the crime.
It doesn't matter what Charlie published. They don't deserve to die. There is no respect if you expect to be respected with death threats.
This is not a debate that can be won with words but rather superiority of our weapons and tactics to devide and concur.
Everybody can condemn and give all this strong words but they don't change nothing.
Actions speak louder than words.
Facts
“all extremists” “all extremists” good strategy to hide the problem, that “cartoonist” was a real partisan
well done pagans only religion that seems not to be pissing people off.
As far as i know being cartoonists is haram in Islam how he's doing then😂
I've never heard this many excuses made on behalf of violent islamic terrorists...
She doesn't know what fascism is, and I don't know how to spell it.
Islam is not to blame but the the way fringe is becoming the new mainstream in Islam is very disturbing
i don't condone what happened but to insult a race, religion or ethnic group is not freedom of speech but hate speech.
i agree.. ignorance and being disrespectfull is not freedom of speech.. # martin luther king, ghandi, thats an example of what freedom of speech, dude. not provoking, by being ignorant or else this world wouid be full of hate, wer wars will kick off, if everyone started doing it. ok.
"i don't condone what happened but to insult a race, religion or ethnic group is not freedom of speech but hate speech."
Saying "yo mama is so so fat" is not in ANY way on the same level as "you should be killed". Religions deserve all the insult and criticism that comes to them. Why? For the same reason other ideologies do.
Rasel Rejy
"...martin luther king, ghandi, thats an example of what freedom of speech, dude. not provoking..."
Many found their speeches provoking and offensive. In fact, many white supremacists felt that the speeches of MLK needed to be silenced because they found it offensive, the very same justification that the shooters of the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists had. In fact, it's a pretty similar justification that even a lot of PC liberals give too- those cartoonists were just too insulting!
"...by being ignorant or else this world wouid be full of hate, wer wars will kick off, if everyone started doing it."
I think the hate and ignorance has a lot to do with religion and what it preaches.
Id make sure you never attend a comedy event then you soft fairy, imagine being that offended of being mocked on a platform where EVERYONE is mocked that you think you should have special treatment, what kinda self righteous bullshit is that
as he is pointing fingers....
What you are invited to discuss. That sounds like censorship. Douglas can't be censored. A bit lat e on this one but it's very interesting in 2024
No one defended the anti Jew cartoons
Who got killed after the drawings...whereas if you offend Islam your life is at risk
L jazeera
I am still offended by the idea of a cartoon (not seen it but hey - the very idea !!)that was intended to look like Mo - but actually was just a cartoon , so perhaps i should not be . Talk about sensitive perhaps they are insecure because they realise it is all BS
A cartoonist who is against using ethnic profiles of people!?! By the beard of my sainted Aunt, am I even hearing him well, or what?!?
orlando what you just wrote is an example of a no good ignorant little boy. you have to respect other religeons and prophets, i wouidnt say anything bad about jesus regarding your comment cos he is a prophet or son of god to many and must be respected highly. respect love and unity will bring humanity toghther, ok. #peace
So I watched a video tonight of Dire Straights and I thought, where is the musim equivalent. There isn't one. I've watched other vids of the Eagles, Stones, and so on, and wondered where is the muslim equivalent. There isn't one. I've thought of Archimedes, Fleming, Einstein and others, and wondered, where is the muslim equivalent. There isn't one. I've thought of Turner, and others of intellect and artistry and I've thought, where are the muslims. Nowhere. They have contributed nothing to human advancement for more than centuries. They are stuck in a time warp, and their only response is violence. We have a simple choice - either accept that which is in our midst, or destroy it before it destroys us.
💯👏👏👏👏 Exactly! Nothing.
555555 comdy jew jokE wwww
khhaaaaggghrrr-alid please
that murray guy, went from chill to *CHILL* in a split second. why do interviews if you're not even going to answer the questions, mate.
Way to go Douglas avoid the question..
Well at least we can see the radical from the other side too..
***** you're clearly hurt lol
***** you believe everything the government said about 9/11 is true?
bwahahahahahaha!
everyone is to blame
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Insult and freedom of speech are two different things. We have to define where freedom of speech ends.simple thing.where are social and moral value ?
ALLAHHUMMASOLLIALASAIDINAMUHAMMAD
This is the first time I watched an Al Jazeera show, I have to admit that no matter what accusations the guest from London made the fact that the carried on with the show uncut on its presentation really amazes me. I cant imagine western media to show a challenge to their narrative like this on air.
Now, which media is really free and which is just a mouth piece for propaganda?
Accusation? 😂
Trust an English guy to turn a civil discussion into a polemic. Stay classy Douglas.
To be honest the interviewer totally owned Murray when Murray tried not to answer the interviewer's opening question, which was sensible, and instead Murray went off on a irrelevant rant @ 5:20. Disappointed in Murray's performance really. I've heard him before and he's usually quite coherent.
But when western media do the same you won't say that thing, you probably would say "western media all liars", don't your religion hate HYPOCRITE?
Bullshit
If I were to draw caricatures about holocaust, joke and mock survivors, aren't i'm gonna get some sort of punishment? Maybe even sentenced to jail?
Likely but surely you won't be EXECUTED, does that how your brain really work? Leave religion, it poisons you.
False comparison. Youre trying so hard to justify killing of this Abdul just because hes religious feelings are hurt. Muhammad is a person, holocaust is a human tragedy. You can mock or criticize religion and its founders specially Muhammad was an evil person. You cant make fun of holocaust because its a tragedy where a certain group was slaughtered.
Big difference! The victims of the holocaust were real, living people, millions of them brutalised, tortured & killed. Mohammed is just a fictional character, he wasn't murdered!! One stupid story about a "prophet" doesn't equate to a Holocaust and the comparison is just grotesque..
Douglas Murray should not have come to the interview if he does not want to give honest answers.
I love Douglas Murray! He is too good! "I'm giving you my answer why don't you listen to it"
I was impressed by the objectivity and professionalism of Catherine and was utterly sickened by the bias and unprofessionalism of Douglas.
Being against 6th century religious mentality is not biased
The Quran, The Opening Chapter.
1. In the name of God, Most Gracious,
Most Merciful.
2. Praise be to God,
The Cherisher and Sustainer of the Worlds;
3. Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
4. Master of the Day of Judgment.
5. Thee do we worship,
And Thine aid we seek.
6. Show us the straight way,
7. The way of those on whom
Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace,
Those whose (portion)
Is not wrath,
And who go not astray.
I choose to go astray and life has been good, guess where the bad things coming from? Muslim community.
Quran 8:12 - “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them
@@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000thats in the context of a war and is a command from Allah سبحانه وتعالى to the angels during the war.
The cartoonists are to be blamed. They drew the offensive cartoons with the intent to hurt the feelings of muslims. If they didnt draw, nothin happened. Am i wrong?
We do??? How? Whr? Whn?
Everywhere where dear? In your bed? :)
***** oh dont start with the quran..
What filth? Im well mannered. I do eat with fork and spoon. Do you?
Quran also upset non muslims should then that be banned also. But we don't see non Muslims running around and killing Muslims.
I think Douglas Murray appeals to freedom and rights too narrow-mindedly.
Oh nooo too much defense of freedom!!!
Everyone condemns this attack, its valid but bullying any religious sentiments are bigger threat than this kind of attacks...
AFTER THIS interview JORNALIST LOST HIS JOB