DIY Molten salt battery

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  • Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
  • Molten salt battery. A military tech you probably heard about, but couldn't find any details on.
    I got curious how it works and decided to try making one myself, which turned out to be pretty easy.
    Full project details can be found at orbides.org/pag...
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  • @daltonagronomo1652
    @daltonagronomo1652 6 років тому +13

    I live in Brazil. One kind of molten salt battery, using NaAlCl4 takes just 147o C to work. It's called zebra battery and was invented in South Africa more than 30 years ago.

    • @CDZion
      @CDZion 4 роки тому

      n encontrei essa bateria pra vender !!

    • @NwoDispatcher
      @NwoDispatcher 4 роки тому

      Boy those south Africans are so innovative... Wonder what they will come up with next

    • @itsnotawarcrimeifyouhadfun4709
      @itsnotawarcrimeifyouhadfun4709 Рік тому

      @@NwoDispatcherwell they came up with a white genocide!

  • @headlesnorseman701
    @headlesnorseman701 6 років тому +3

    the real merit of these is to store large amounts of heat in a relatively small space. very useful for residential heat applications and things like concentrated solar heat power plants. the voltage is kind of a side effect

  • @fmdj
    @fmdj 9 місяців тому

    Really cool demo! Not the kind of high school chemistry level batteries we usually see :)

  • @ek8710
    @ek8710 4 роки тому

    What brought me here was i remember seeing something in a picture about a thermal battery on a man portable anti air launcher from the USA used in vietnam. Was wondering why this technology wasn't better known or used!

  • @mikeguitar9769
    @mikeguitar9769 5 років тому

    Internal resistance is Voc/Isc. So high current does indicate high power.

  • @babushkablyattv2751
    @babushkablyattv2751 5 років тому

    This is useful when during blackout without lighting candles,very nice

  • @klausnielsen1537
    @klausnielsen1537 5 років тому +1

    Lovely demonstration. I like your thinking... What could possibly go wrong! LOL

  • @evanriddle1614
    @evanriddle1614 7 років тому

    nickel and iron used by Stuart Licht George Washington University and using a similar eutectic salts. Rechargeable, which is to say that a current is used from a battery charger. Theoretical energy density is 10 kilowatt hours per liter with Fe & Ni. Higher with vanadium oxide, zirconium stabilizers and other exotic mixtures

  • @singularity844
    @singularity844 3 роки тому +1

    So I can envision a parabolic mirror or other sun collector to collect the required heat from the sun. How long does the battery put out that voltage if left hot? It has an impressive output for such a small trip.

  • @PhysicsViolator
    @PhysicsViolator 4 роки тому +5

    What about corrosion/erosion of the plates and the long term effects?

    • @micultimy91
      @micultimy91 2 роки тому +1

      I think this is why it's used on military applications such as cruise missiles. you don't care too much about the battery life time as far as the whole system powered by that battery is going to be destroyed.

  • @OzzieWozzieOriginal
    @OzzieWozzieOriginal 3 роки тому +1

    CAN IT BE RECHARGED??

  • @ElizabethGreene
    @ElizabethGreene 8 років тому +4

    You could use the fiberglass cloth and sew a pouch around the magnesium electrode..

    • @recless8667
      @recless8667 6 років тому +2

      That's a really good idea. And if you rotated one electrode 180 degrees so the exposed metal and wires were coming off of opposite sizes, you'd greatly reduce the risk of shorting the two conductors together.

  • @SciHeartJourney
    @SciHeartJourney 8 років тому +10

    Voltage means nothing without knowing the resistive load, or the current.

    • @daviddavidson8855
      @daviddavidson8855 8 років тому +4

      He showed 150mA at 6:45. The real question is the mAh

    • @edlingja1
      @edlingja1 7 років тому

      Well that's just not true; 1,000,000 Volts would constitute a certainly measurable amount.
      Power density is key, right? Like a tiny little bowl with 1M V would be insane.

    • @bashkillszombies
      @bashkillszombies 6 років тому +3

      Are we just going to ignore the 240 volt heating unit creating the energy? Turning 240v to 1.5v is pretty fucking impressive. In all the wrong ways.

    • @SLAutoRepair
      @SLAutoRepair 5 років тому +1

      Jay Edlington you could have 1 trillion volts, voltage is nothing with no actual current, which is the actual power it carries.
      Everything electrical really runs on watts
      Watts=VoltsxAmps
      Volts=Watts\Amps
      Amps=Watts\Volts
      As you can see, Watts is the usable energy measurements
      And if watts is voltage x amps then
      1,000,000x0=0Watts
      No usable energy

    • @Ahamshep
      @Ahamshep 5 років тому +3

      Come on guys. This is a great proof of concept. As of this moment it is still the only demonstration/experiment of a molten salt battery on youtube.

  • @jakewaitze5104
    @jakewaitze5104 7 років тому +2

    What's getting oxidized and reduced here?

  • @duminicad
    @duminicad 4 роки тому

    that's fantastic ! have you tried any other cell experiment?

  • @yelectric1893
    @yelectric1893 4 роки тому

    Good for guided rockets, thanks!

  • @mayukoyamamoto6714
    @mayukoyamamoto6714 5 років тому +1

    can the same experiment be done using sodium?

  • @kali223laron
    @kali223laron 6 років тому +2

    u liquid rock keep up the work

  • @solidacid1337
    @solidacid1337 9 років тому

    Very neat.

  • @TheIndustrialphreak
    @TheIndustrialphreak 3 роки тому

    is it rechargeable?

  • @shanewhite352
    @shanewhite352 3 роки тому

    so, the metal parts decay and become electricity? or salt parts decay?

    • @ProckerDark
      @ProckerDark 3 роки тому

      The metal that plays the positive here will decay until becoming full rust, the negative metal will stay the same

  • @glorified3142
    @glorified3142 5 років тому

    Have you tried Magnesium as Anode and Antimony on the cathode?

    • @shanewhite352
      @shanewhite352 3 роки тому

      I tried it and it exploded, now in the hospital, doctors said, I can go home within three days, but the police asked who told you to do that, and I showed them your comment here, now they will contact you soon.

    • @glorified3142
      @glorified3142 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@shanewhite352 I'm truly very sorry to hear that. I was only asking whether you have "TRIED" it, expecting an expert reply, not a tutorial. You can trace my two year old comment here at this TED talk with professor Donald Sadoway: ua-cam.com/video/Sddb0Khx0yA/v-deo.html where I got that concept from.

    • @mememan2344
      @mememan2344 3 роки тому

      @@shanewhite352 can you elaborate? Did the electrolyte burn you?

  • @kistuszek
    @kistuszek 7 років тому

    Nice.
    By the way, is your avatar from MAX? :)

    • @val3tra
      @val3tra  7 років тому

      Yep. I made a remake of M.A.X. back in 2004 thru 2015 or so, and ran a fan club dating back to 1998. It kinda died lately, but i kept the chosen avatar ever since. :)

    • @kistuszek
      @kistuszek 7 років тому

      Made a wuut!? That's... pretty legendary!

  • @stefanogrillo6040
    @stefanogrillo6040 6 років тому +1

    is it possibile to do a solid salt battery?

    • @daltonagronomo1652
      @daltonagronomo1652 6 років тому

      No. It only works with heat molten salt. I live in Brazil.

    •  5 років тому +1

      @@daltonagronomo1652 Can't tell how saying "I live in Brazil" adds to your argument, but some very simple batteries have been shown to work with just salt+water.

    •  5 років тому

      A solid state battery would be interesting

  • @diannemccarthy8685
    @diannemccarthy8685 2 роки тому

    Might be better to sacrifice some voltage for safety by using something other than magnesium. ??

  • @bashkillszombies
    @bashkillszombies 6 років тому +3

    Using a 240V heater to generate 1.5V of power. Great fucking work dude. You created a resistor, not a battery.

  • @GediminasJurgaitis
    @GediminasJurgaitis 5 років тому

    Why you whispering?

    • @shanewhite352
      @shanewhite352 3 роки тому

      to get away from CIA, every guy who's successful in this sorta thing whispering