What would you suggest if the shutter is not clicking? The camera is almost totally unused (original box and free roll of film was still inside.) But the reel does not move when winding and shutter does not seem to close/open all the way (no click.)
have you been testing it with a roll of film? the shutter gets cocked when the sprocket holes on the film turn the gear in the film compartment. if you do not have film inside you can turn this gear by hand to manually cock & test the shutter.
thanks! i chose graphite because it evaporates and leaves a dry lubricant behind. i imagine a Teflon lubricant would probably work. if it gets sticky again over time, you can just clean it out and try something else! :)
Need help trying to find a good and hopefully inexpensive small screwdriver set to repair the Dial 35. Have a small Phillips but need a smaller flat or maybe a better set. Really nice video explaining the camera and the repair.
im glad you liked the video! if you search for "small screwdriver set" on amazon, you will find an array of choices. no doubt one of them will suit your needs. good luck!
Hi! Thanks for this video! I need to perform this maintenance on my dial but I’m worried about the motor “kicking” when I open it. How can you tell if the mechanism has any tension left in it before you unscrew everything?
well, the best you can do is try to let out as much tension as possible. i would put it into "Rewind" mode and let it unwind until it stops, then smack the motor with the heel of my hand in an attempt to jostle it loose to unwind more.
@@DavidVonk I did it! Thanks for the vote of confidence :) only kicked a little and it's running super smooth now! Thanks for the video and the replies!
the original manual calls for a 1.3v Mercury battery which is long been discontinued; i used an MRB625 1.35v battery which seems to operate the light meter correctly. unfortunately, they are expensive (around $10 USD currently) and they are zinc-air chemistry, which means once you peel the sticker off the battery it starts to discharge. expect to get just a few weeks life out of each battery.
Nice video man, it's a funny and beautiful camera. I'm having the following problem with it though: the exposure counter does not roll back when I rewind the film. So when I got the camera it was at about 40, went up to 72 while I was shooting and I couldn't finish my roll and had to rewind it. So my roll was used about halfways. Rewinding the film moved back the exposure counter somewhat but not completely, so it's now at 50 with no film in the camera. I'm guessing my next film roll will also remain partially unused because of that. Do you have any suggestions on how to solve that and make the counter go back to 0 upon rewinding a film roll?
hi david, thanks for this awesome video! i don't know if you still check the comments on this video or not, but i have one of these and it seemed to be working great until halfway through my test roll when it suddenly started rapid firing the shutter on it's own and now the shutter release button isn't firing the shutter any more. i pulled my test roll out of it and when i turn the sprocket inside by hand, the shutter fires rather than cocking for the release button. any idea why this would suddenly happen halfway through a roll of film?
hard to say for sure, my Dial 35 only had the sticky motor issue so i only went that far. you might have to do some more digging to find out the cause of the issue. you could also try asking on the Vintage Camera Repair Group on facebook
Hi, thanks for the video ! I'm trying to repair my canon dial 35-2 but I can't unscrew the motor from the body. Could you give me a link to the specialty wrench you are mentioning ?
hello! if you look at the pdf i linked in the description, there is a picture of the wrench on the very last page, the Canon Service Tools List. they call it a "Special Screwdriver" T0199-18-0357-1T. unfortunately, i doubt you would be able to find it, so you may have to fabricate one with the same span out of a piece of sheet metal. hopefully their picture gives you an idea of what you need. alternately, you could try getting creative by wrapping something around the motor nut (e.g., some wire?) and twisting it down to grip the nut, and pulling on it in that manner? i guess i got lucky on the Dial 35-2 cameras that i worked on, i was able to loosen them without a tool. good luck!
David's right that you're best to have a machinist make the wrench from flat stock that will fit the gap between the camera and winder fob without binding. It is the right tool in any case.
it's fairly complicated, and the Dial 35 and Dial 35-2 are slightly different... but if youre feeling adventurous, here is a PDF that includes both service manuals (35-2 starts about halfway down): flynngraphics.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Dial-35-Repair-Manual.pdf
Thank you very much. Because of this video I manage to repaired my Dail 35. Just received this camera today and I'm loving it.
awesome! i'm glad the video was helpful. enjoy your Dial 35! :)
Superb overview and repair! Many thanks for sharing. I'm just waiting for mine to arrive in the post.
thank you, i hope yours works flawlessly! however, if the motor is sluggish you can try this fix 😉
Outstanding video, thank you I just fixed it on my own camera and it works perfectly now. Next step is to think about battery
good job! im glad the video helped. these weird little cameras are pretty fun to shoot :)
What would you suggest if the shutter is not clicking? The camera is almost totally unused (original box and free roll of film was still inside.) But the reel does not move when winding and shutter does not seem to close/open all the way (no click.)
have you been testing it with a roll of film? the shutter gets cocked when the sprocket holes on the film turn the gear in the film compartment. if you do not have film inside you can turn this gear by hand to manually cock & test the shutter.
Great video! I can't find graphite lubricant in my country, but I found alternatives like teflon lubricant. Would that work for repairing this camera?
thanks! i chose graphite because it evaporates and leaves a dry lubricant behind. i imagine a Teflon lubricant would probably work. if it gets sticky again over time, you can just clean it out and try something else! :)
Need help trying to find a good and hopefully inexpensive small screwdriver set to repair the Dial 35. Have a small Phillips but need a smaller flat or maybe a better set.
Really nice video explaining the camera and the repair.
im glad you liked the video! if you search for "small screwdriver set" on amazon, you will find an array of choices. no doubt one of them will suit your needs. good luck!
Hi! Thanks for this video! I need to perform this maintenance on my dial but I’m worried about the motor “kicking” when I open it. How can you tell if the mechanism has any tension left in it before you unscrew everything?
well, the best you can do is try to let out as much tension as possible. i would put it into "Rewind" mode and let it unwind until it stops, then smack the motor with the heel of my hand in an attempt to jostle it loose to unwind more.
@David Vonk I’m gonna have to hold my breath and give it a go. Scared to mess it up!!
you'll never know if you dont try... so give it a go and do your best! good luck!
@@DavidVonk I did it! Thanks for the vote of confidence :) only kicked a little and it's running super smooth now! Thanks for the video and the replies!
awesome, way to go! i'm glad the video was helpful. enjoy using the camera that you fixed yourself! :)
What kinda battery did you put in?
the original manual calls for a 1.3v Mercury battery which is long been discontinued; i used an MRB625 1.35v battery which seems to operate the light meter correctly. unfortunately, they are expensive (around $10 USD currently) and they are zinc-air chemistry, which means once you peel the sticker off the battery it starts to discharge. expect to get just a few weeks life out of each battery.
Nice video man, it's a funny and beautiful camera. I'm having the following problem with it though: the exposure counter does not roll back when I rewind the film. So when I got the camera it was at about 40, went up to 72 while I was shooting and I couldn't finish my roll and had to rewind it. So my roll was used about halfways. Rewinding the film moved back the exposure counter somewhat but not completely, so it's now at 50 with no film in the camera. I'm guessing my next film roll will also remain partially unused because of that. Do you have any suggestions on how to solve that and make the counter go back to 0 upon rewinding a film roll?
hi david, thanks for this awesome video! i don't know if you still check the comments on this video or not, but i have one of these and it seemed to be working great until halfway through my test roll when it suddenly started rapid firing the shutter on it's own and now the shutter release button isn't firing the shutter any more. i pulled my test roll out of it and when i turn the sprocket inside by hand, the shutter fires rather than cocking for the release button. any idea why this would suddenly happen halfway through a roll of film?
hard to say for sure, my Dial 35 only had the sticky motor issue so i only went that far. you might have to do some more digging to find out the cause of the issue.
you could also try asking on the Vintage Camera Repair Group on facebook
I can´t open it, the first screw is kind of stuck, do you think that is piossible to lubricate from outside with wd40? the spool even does not move
Hi, thanks for the video ! I'm trying to repair my canon dial 35-2 but I can't unscrew the motor from the body. Could you give me a link to the specialty wrench you are mentioning ?
hello! if you look at the pdf i linked in the description, there is a picture of the wrench on the very last page, the Canon Service Tools List. they call it a "Special Screwdriver" T0199-18-0357-1T. unfortunately, i doubt you would be able to find it, so you may have to fabricate one with the same span out of a piece of sheet metal. hopefully their picture gives you an idea of what you need.
alternately, you could try getting creative by wrapping something around the motor nut (e.g., some wire?) and twisting it down to grip the nut, and pulling on it in that manner? i guess i got lucky on the Dial 35-2 cameras that i worked on, i was able to loosen them without a tool.
good luck!
David's right that you're best to have a machinist make the wrench from flat stock that will fit the gap between the camera and winder fob without binding. It is the right tool in any case.
Succinct. I found one just yesterday and will be giving it this treatment, but I think a synth grease like Tri-Flow.
excellent, good luck!
HOW CAN I CLEAN THE VIEW FINDER, TONS OF DUST IN THERE
it's fairly complicated, and the Dial 35 and Dial 35-2 are slightly different... but if youre feeling adventurous, here is a PDF that includes both service manuals (35-2 starts about halfway down):
flynngraphics.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Dial-35-Repair-Manual.pdf
Thank you so much!
you're welcome!
Do you know who does professional repairs on a Canon Dial?
i do not, but there is a good chance someone at the Vintage Camera Repair facebook group might know:
facebook.com/groups/vintagecamerarepair
My camera doesn't move the film roll 😢
Great !
sorry for the Caps lock, wasn't looking
Best way to describe this camera is to say it was like snapping away with a mobile phone but in 1968. And it's a stealthy.
And the viewfinder is too cool for school.
it definitely takes a lot of snapping to fill a 36-exposure roll!
How can this be called repair? Just gave the cogs a little greese :)