MJX Hyper Go HB14M 14210 RC Beats Granite Grom? Watch Before Buying!
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- Опубліковано 28 лис 2024
- Is the new Hyper Go HB14M 14210 a better buy than the new Arrma Granite Grom? Does it beat the 16889 Pro and the Team Associated 14MT for small RC offroad bashing? Watch and find out!
I would like to add a little clarity to your naming of this particular model you have chap...
The latest MJX Hyper Go H14BM is an exclusive Amazon commissioned model..
The one you have is a MJX Hyper Go 14210 v2 (the same as me).
The 3 differences between the models are as follows, the H14 has a different livery on the black shell.
The H14 has a slow mode that it is shipped in that you unlock with 5 presses of the ESC. To make it as fast as a 14210 v2 (both ESC's are 45 A)
The H14 has both front and rear chunky telescopic CVD's, the 14210 v2 as you know, only has the chunks on the rear..
So the only differences to care about are the newer upgraded front driveshafts., which I fitted to my car today...
I'm Keirh a moderator in a MJX Hyper Go Group. Thanks for reading.
Thanks for the clarification! I knew they were very similar but didn't know they hb14m was Amazon exclusive.
Do people have issues breaking the front CVDs?
@@DoRC it's my opinion that the extra chunky CVD on the front of the H14 are to make it shine as the latest thing, where in reality the original ones were plenty strong and the weak link, (the pins) are basically the same......but don't they look nice haha.
Cheers for giving my clarity on the models some light chap!.
@@cheggers1973 Yeah that's kind of what I figured. I've run a lot of these smaller vehicles in the past and based on my experience and the weight of the vehicle the CVDs seemed plenty chunky enough and to be honest with you universals, while inherently larger aren't inherently stronger. Like you said they're only as strong as their weakest link and if their weakest link is the same it's more of a marketing thing than an actual advantage.
Have you checked out a Grom yet?
I really like comparing these two. I’d probably go for the Mjx. I have the 14301 mini infraction and love it. This one looks like a buff cousin. The grom looks good but the price is just a tad much for a 1/18 brushed. As far as parts availability I have a hard time relating to most comments that talk about the annoyance of waiting 2 weeks or whatever for parts. I personally use that time to focus on another car. Thanks for the thought provoking comparison
Yeah I think it just depends on how many cars you have. If you have a bunch of cars then waiting for parts for any particular car really isn't a big deal but if you only have one or two it can be a bit more annoying. Thanks for watching :-)
I absolutely love your channel! Me and my daughter watch all of your videos. I’m hoping to save up and get her the Gorgon for Christmas. I just got full custody of her and unfortunately I had to sell my RC collection among other things. She loves RC just like her daddy. thanks for the best reviews on UA-cam in my opinion. I love your honesty.
Thanks man. Comments like these are why I have the channel. I love to be able to get back to the community! Glad you're enjoying and hope you get that Gorgon soon!
i'm glad i found your review of this car. other reviewers aren't showing the slop in the wheels and don´t mention the controllability.
Yeah it's fine up to a certain power and speed but this thing has more power and more speed than the chassis can really handle.
@@DoRC Is there a fix you could recommend to fix the steering slop?
@@nathanedwards155 unfortunately not really. It's a combination of looseness and poor manufacturing tolerances in pretty much all of the parts involved. You might be able to use some shims or washers to tighten up certain things but in general it kind of just is what it is
I purchased the MJX as a newbie to rc cars. You cannot get parts at your local hobby shop, but I did order on line when needed. The extra power in the 3S battery is insane.
Yeah most of the parts are available online it can just be a little challenging sometimes to figure out what parts are what. It definitely is crazy on 3S but in my experience kind of hard to control. What was your experience with control ability?
I cut the springs to lower it and the handling is now significantly better! Then I used the paddle tires as my main set because the original set is just too grippy for this small but heavy truggy.
Not a bad idea just keep in mind that cutting the springs will also make them stiffer.
I keep telling myself that and then somethjbf else happens. Thanks for the encouragement. I’ll never give up for my little girl… she’s my world and putting a smile on her face is my joy
Wish you the best man!
Hey shoot me an email when you get a chance. The email contact information is available under the about section but you have to do it on desktop to see it.
Thank you so much for the well wishes! We love your honesty and how well you explain things! I’m a technical guy myself and love it!! And it’s such a treat to watch you drive and bash!!
I just sent you an email. Awarner1987 is the address that came from.
For sure man I’ll figure a way to get it. Just got laid off. But it’s OK. Seems like everything that can go. Wrong will go wrong. It’s been a toughest time of my life doing all this by myself but I won’t give up! I’ll do anything I can to put a smile on my little girls face! Keep up the great vids we will continue watching and supporting 😊
That's the way it seems to go sometimes. Just be persistent and things will turn around. Persistence is a superpower! Thanks for watching :-)
Just got mine for $113 with free shipping :) v3 version.
Nice!
cleaned up the a-arm slop out of the box and wowzers what a difference.
Yeah I'm sure taking as much of the slop out of everything as possible would really help.
@@DoRC I have the V2 of this model by the way which has a different ESC and is already "unlocked". Not sure if your manual is V1.0 (bottom left front of manual book) mine says "V2.0"
@@rogueFactor The V1 and V2 are almost identical. This is also true for the HP 14M and 14210. The only difference is ESC programming and the configuration of the CVDs as far as I know.
How did you clean up the slop?
Competition is good, forces innovation and quality👍
With my 1/16 scale h16bm I upgraded to a 17g servo, extended the steering rods and tightened the steering up pretty well. I can slowly push the throttle to flat out not touch steering wheel on 3S
Yeah there are definitely things you can do to tighten up certain aspects of the system.
How did you tighten the steering? Or was it with the steering rod?
@@t3floz yeah I extended the steering rod to straighten the toe in alignment. I upgraded to a radio link rcgs3 remote an I can’t turn down the turning speed. And control throttle punch. It’s cheap and does really well. Check my shorts
The appeal of the GROM is that kids can handle it. After letting my 10 y/o neighbor drive my brushless truck it was clear it was too much power for him. Not to mention he would end up smashing it into things at full speed. Save the brushless for someone’s second truck or for the older kids/adults.
I think that just depends on your point of view. I find these very small cars really appealing because you can run them in places you can't run bigger cars. People tend to ignore these things and just think they're little toys. I've been running these small cars for a while and I honestly run smaller cars more than I run my bigger cars.
This car is so much more stable and fun with the paddle tires. Switch them and try it again.
I did try them with a paddle tires off camera but I mostly bash in short grass and uneven changing terrain and paddle tires really don't work well for me.
A massive and fun part of the hobby is tinkering with them, I have 2 groms and I can tear them completely down and put them back together again in 30 minutes, that hyper go looked like an engineering maze
Yeah it's not the worst car in the world to work on but certainly not the best. Thanks for watching!
Just taken mine for first bash and yeah handling is way off some of the 1:16 I have. It’s to heavy for its size and steering slop is dreadful
@@TomTheSurgen1 agreed. It's just too powerful for how loose everything is. It's fun but it's pretty much uncontrollable.
You've had better luck with yours than I did with mine. First jump I ripped a screw out of the steering block and lost the pivot ball off the lower A-arm. Fixed it and when back the next day. Broke off the wheelie bar and then the fatal hit was a bad landing on the rear right wheel and it broke the wheel off at the hub. Aside from the first jump that was just as high as the ones you were doing here, all other breakages happened off massive jumps and I can't really expect such a cheap car to deal with the constant abuse I put it through without something failing, so I'm not gonna take points off for that. However, you're bang on about the handing. LoL. It's fun for the first couple of minutes because it has so much power, but then you realise just how hard this thing is to drive at speed. Haha. Fun car, good price and great value, BUT could definitely use some refinement in all those loose joints.
Awesome video once again and love the editing and dialog. 👏👏 Also, the durability montage (ala Jang from Ultimate RC) was quite nostalgic. 😁
Yeah it's a fun little car but personally I think the novelty wears off pretty quickly. I've driven a lot of cars and ones that don't handle well just start to grate on me after a few minutes. Trying to hit a 2 ft wide ramp at 30 mph with a car that really doesn't want to go straight is annoying.
I think the jumps I did were pretty representative of what most people will do and it held up well to those but you know how it goes. Some people can have a car and never have it break and other people can break it every single time they take it out. I'd say it's reasonably durable.
That being said the Grom really sets a new bar for what a small RC car should be and at least in my experience so far nothing else matches it. I do wish Arrma had made it a little bit bigger and brushless. I'm sure they'll be bringing more options out in the future. Looking at the upgrades they Will have available for the Grom I'm expecting an EXB version eventually. Thanks for watching!
I have that same NoCry screwdriver. I don't think there is a better electric screwdriver at that price point. I'm really interested to see how you modified to make it better for RC.
Yeah it's a great screwdriver but I definitely made it better! I have a video out hopefully in the next couple weeks about it
I think that the H14BM and the 14210 are different. They are the same, but there are some different internal things, and the h14bm is a special that can only be purchased from specific vendors.
The only real functional difference in the car is the hb14m comes with the universals in the front instead of the CVDs and I believe is an Amazon exclusive.
Thanks for watching!
@@DoRC Also speed mode which this doesn't have.
The difference between the two ESCs is that one of them comes out of the box in a low speed mode that you need to unlock to utilize full power. Mine comes out of the box with full power available.
@@DoRC Nope watch actual videos on top speed this has 42-44miles/h the H14BM hit 50 miles/h
@@maszkalman3676 The HB14M hits 50 miles an hour off-road on rough terrain?
Glad I didn't get one. Was seriously considering it over the Grom too. That play in the parts, difficult repairs and Philips screws are definitely a deal breaker. Hyper go makes some tough little bashers but I think the plastic chassis versions were better quality from what I've seen.
The biggest reason I went with the grom was its easy to run indoors even in a studio apartment. I think the hyper go is to powerful and larger to be an indoor basher.
Thanks for a different take on this car, you really covered a lot I haven't seen from other reviews.
Yeah it's a tough car and definitely fun but the Grom really kind of raises the bar for me on what we should expect from a little car. I do wish the Grom were a little larger but I'm running slightly larger tires on mine right now and it bashes like a bigger car.
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching!
@DoRC funny you want it larger and I find it perfect. Where this will be run really makes a big difference in people opinions, I think. Outdoors its under powered. Indoors, it's perfect and fun to do backfips off my pillow 😆
@@Macgyver46 Yeah for sure. It all just depends on where you bash.
The Grom is awesome. Me personally, I bought it to zoom around the basement while it’s too cold to drive the bigger car’s outside now. I don’t mind that it’s brushed. It’s pretty zippy, actually jumps pretty good, and does backflips off the wall all day. And this car is durable! I constructed an obstacle course in the basement with portions that are 2-3 feet off the ground. The Grom fell and hit the concrete floor more times than I could count and I broke nothing. I’ve even had a few cartwheel crashes off the little ramp I built and again, even though a few times I cringed, nothing broke. Buy one, you will NOT be disappointed.
This 14210 seems good for starting with RC but it looks very hard to control, is there a way to increase this by changing some parts like the paddle wheels? Or is the 14209 more recommendable to have something that can run in every type of terrains and do not flip every 30 seconds?
Unfortunately the difficulty in handling is primarily due to the pretty loose tolerances in everything related to the suspension and steering. At lower speeds it's not bad but at higher speeds it's definitely noticeable and whereas you might be able to fix some of it with aftermarket aluminum parts It kind of is a fundamental issue. I suspect the 14209 will be similar.
Also all of these cars are going to be pretty squirrely in anything but the smoothest of terrain just because of how small they are. For starting out in the hobby I would honestly recommend getting something a bit bigger like a 1/10 scale. You're going to pay more for it but you're going to have a lot better time
hey, do you notice a considerable amount of lag on the throttle and reverse? i feel like the first 20% of the throttle does nothing, then it comes on like turbo lag. reverse takes forever to kick in too. huge bummer! i switched out the tx/rx and it didn't do anything, must be esc programming
Yes. All of these hypergars have a bit of lag and weirdness in the ESC. As far as I know there's nothing you can do about it. It's not terrible in practice and you do sort of start to forget about it but it is there.
Did you feel any drag brake or delay in this car? If you tighten the bolt on the wheels wouldn’t that remove some of the wheel wobble?
I didn't notice any perceptible drag brake but I'm also not very sensitive to those sorts of things. Unfortunately no. The wheel nuts are already tight. The slop just comes from loose tolerances basically everywhere.
Im an experienced rc car enthusiast. When I was looking for a new rc car, one thing I had in mind at the top of my list was the slop in the wheels. The typhon grom is the better rc car because of that one thing. After dealing with a traxxas slash slop in the wheels for 15 years I retired that and got the typhon 6s( No comparison) one dislike is the typhon grom is too expensive.
Yeah especially with these smaller vehicles the amount of slop and everything really affects how it handles.
If u drive any Hyper Go normally, it won't ever break, no crazy jumps...
Had mine 2yrs now not one prob! Lov it.
They definitely are pretty durable but in my experience most small modern RCs are pretty durable. I can definitely appreciate that many people won't ever have to work on them but I still have to give them a ding for repairability because no matter what RC car you have repaiability is one of the main things that makes it hobby grade.
Did you have any slop in the wheels and have you done anything about it?
What brushless system did you put in the Granite Grom?
I've done a couple different ones. I've done videos on both of them.
In Europe the Armma Grom is the same price as this MJX. So upgrading the Grom to 3s brushless would make it way more expensive.
Also, Armma parts are more expensive.
You do have a point that the MJX is built complicated, but fixing a diff hardly ever happens.
Yeah the grom Will definitely end up being more expensive but it's also capable of handling higher power which at least in my experience the MJX is not. It's a tough car but it's also extremely sloppy and at higher power it just tends to have a mind of its own.
Wow, third time trying to reply. Yt keeps blocking my replies. Anyway, MJX's are indeed loose. A gyro can fix that though. They're very cheap at Ali.
Although the mjx mini infraction already comes with a gyro. There's a new mjx too, the 14303. It's a modern Citroen rally car.
@@DoRC How does the Armma Grom handle 40mph by the way?
@@janklaassen6404 better than you would expect for such a small vehicle but at those speeds it's kind of getting to the limit unless you're on perfectly smooth ground simply because of how small it is.
you can always upgrade the steering components , cheap fix compared to a complete 3s conversion plus batteries. i prefer hexes but grew up in the hobby when everything was phillips. not a huge deal invest in a couple good hobby grade phillips screw drivers. i have the Hyper go 14, got it on the jungle website for 30% discount, 3s version, comes with a lot of spares, paddle tires and 2 3s 2000 mah batteries price all that and add it to the aarma....
Maybe though the slop comes from the knuckles, bearings, stub axles, tie rod ends, and entire steering rack. So it would be a pretty extensive upgrade.
I also grew up with Phillips but hex is far superior. It's not just about the type of screw though. Like I said in the video it's the amount of screws and amount of different types of screws
You do get extras with the hyper go but you also pay more. I don't think the Grom needs to be on 3s so it's really just the motor and ESC that needs to be upgraded.
Ultimately though it's a personal choice. The hyoer go is definitely a fun car!
I have the V2 Version of the Hyper Go, it seems like it is better than the version that you have.
This is the V2. What is different about yours?
@@DoRC it looks like your front diff and shaft is different. Mine is the same setup as the back. Maybe I'm seeing it wrong?
@e.h.tatman8549 they used the same universals on the front and on the rear in the Amazon version but that's the only practical difference on the car. Given that my CVDs held up fine I feel comfortable saying they are similar enough to be reviewed as one.
I also rounded both the screws M4 ones that you did. I don’t get why they put loctite on it.
Because it's going into aluminum and if it's not thread lock it will back out. The problem isn't really the threadlock it's the cheap screws.
@@DoRCHow do you suggest I remove the rounded screws? Will it be possible to heat it? I’m not sure if it’s possible near the plastic.
@Themlpg73 Best bets probably to drill them. Once you are able to get the brace out you can grab them with a pair of pliers and heat the aluminum to release the threadlock. It should drill pretty easily since they appear to be made of soft cheese.
@@DoRCHaha ok, thanks.👍
You're welcome. Good luck and let me know how it goes!
Just got the fly wheels stunt ramp only 20 bucks perfect for small cars
Nice I'll have to check it out!
I want a 4s esc for this. Stock motor, sensored and stock pinion, what would you recommend?
Well with the stock motor you're not going to get sensored as the motor is sensorless but the 10 BL 120 g2 is a good budget option. If you do want a sensored ESC for the future The New Castle Cobra 10 is great though pretty expensive
@@DoRC Thanks! Also… the 10BL120 has a xt60… is that okay or should I swap it?
I have both. The MJX car is just better in pretty much every way. And I live within 1 hour of the UK distributor of MJX parts and cars so can get literally any part if I need it. Arrma really messed up with the GROM. I mean over a hundred for a 1/18th BRUSHED truck? Are they for real? It's decent but needs a third of its priced cut off.
Yeah I guess it just depends on your point of view. Personally I think that quality ease of repair and handling wins over outright power. To me it's very telling that the MJX is quite a bit larger yet they're both able to handle pretty similar terrain. Don't get me wrong The MJX is fun but it's certainly not a driver's car.
@@DoRCIt is a handful on 3S, I'll give you that. That's why I only run it on 2S packs. It does 32MPH on 2S which is plenty for bashing and general use on these smaller trucks. Build quality on the GROM is better and hex hardware is always my preference, but I'd have to give it to the MJX in terms of pure fun factor. 👍
@IISG93II have you run the grom brushless yet?
@@DoRCNot yet but my brother has a spare ESC and brushless mini can he's giving me the next time I see him so it's on my to-do list!
@IISG93II Yeah it really makes a huge difference. I'm running slightly larger tires on mine and brushless on 2S and it's a lot of fun.
How do the 14210 and the 16889A Pro compare?
14210 is a fair amount larger and a bit more powerful but other than that I would say they're pretty similar. They're both built to about the same standards and have about the same frustrations with repair and maintenance. Neither one of them are bad and I have recommended the 16889 pro to many people and it was my primary small basher for quite some time. As long as you're aware of those limitations I don't think you'd be disappointed with either one of them.
Were you doing the tests with a 2s or 3s? Also what kind of battery was it
Both. I think I used the stock battery and then whatever 3S I happened to grab. I don't know which one it was
Would you compare Arrma Granite Grom to any 1/18 scale brushless truck (i.e. Haiboxing)?
I asked that because this comparison is akin to the story known as David and Goliath.
I don't really feel that way. The thing is that what I said about This hyper go applies to pretty much all other small RC cars. They all have a lot of the same limitations where they're not built to very precise standards and their difficult to work on. The team associated 14MT is a step up in quality but it's still kind of a pain to work on.
I've owned pretty much every small car out there and to me the Grom stands alone and raises the bar on what a small car can be. It definitely has its limitations but I'm willing to overlook them for good handling good warranty good parts support and ease of repair.
@@DoRCthe grom is made by Haiboxing and is actually a 18859a with a few changes. At the price of a $104. Brushless I think that a much better comparison also.
@ixclusiverc The grom is a clean sheet design made by Arrma.
@@DoRC Arrma does noes not make rc cars, they set a design then send them to China to have made. In this case they chose haiboxing to make a few changes to an already existing design and put an Arrma logo on it. It seems you don't have the haiboxing 18859a to compare the direct design from.
I have a 16th hyper go i love it i wish i could get this one but i cant sadly but i hope they come out with a 10th scale soon
I wouldn't hold my breath. The reason we haven't really seen anyone 10th scale cars for many of these manufacturers is they're all kind of copying the same basic designs and using a lot of the same basic parts. In order to create a real one tenth scale truck they would have to be a lot of new parts designed and that would cost a lot of money. Not saying it'll never happen but it hasn't happened yet so....
1/10 is coming, I'd post a link but this channel will not allow it
@-Astro-- what do you mean the channel won't allow it? I don't think that's something I have control over. What's the model number?
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Hey just wondering if I can put the electrics from the Mjx into the grom ? I think Mjx really messed this one up for handling and durability or maybe I got a dud. Anyway nice video again. Cheers 🤘
Mine's proven to be pretty durable but handling is definitely a problem. This thing has way too much power and not enough refinement. It's fun but it's also frustrating sometimes.
You might be able to put the electronics in the Grom but I'd recommend the combination that I showed in my brushless Grom video. It works really well and isn't terribly expensive. The ESC on the MJX also isn't the best
Thanks for that. Handling is absolute 💩💩
Yeah well like you saw in the video when the wheels can go whatever direction they want it kind of makes it hard to control. Thanks for watching!
Sorry guys but I can not recommend this Nocry screw driver/mini drill. I purchased this 3 or 4 years ago. I bought it because it was offered as a lifetime warranty since then it has changed multiple times. And the battery went bad after about a year.
That's a bummer. I've had both of mine for quite a while now and have charged it dozens of times. No issues. Did you try to get it warrantied out?
How does the Grom hold up to the 16th scale MJX models? That's what I want to know actually 😂
I think this is a good example of what you can expect when comparing the Grom to pretty much any of the small chinese company RCs. I've owned several examples from pretty much every major manufacturer out there and they're all pretty similar. They're tough and fun but aren't built particularly precisely and can be a real pain to work on. Basically you can take what you saw in the video and apply it to most of the Amazon special small RCs out there.
@@DoRC I don't know if you own a 16th scale MJX but I suspect they're roughly the same size. Can you confirm that?
@@woutervanwijk4369 The 116th scale MJX is slightly larger than the Grom.
Great video man the grom is amazing
Yeah it's a pretty sweet truck. It bashes bigger than it is. I really think that's down to the fact that it's built well and steering on it is more than a suggestion like it is on many of these cars.
Did u used 3s battery
Yes this was with the 3S battery
i wish i could say i love it but the 1/16 is soo much better to use. it still super fast and doesn't flip over every 5 second. the handling on the 1/14 is really bad on mine.. mine just jeers to the right or left uncontrollably. my 16 drives much better. ill be returning this 1/14 sadly
It's not just yours. There's so much slop in everything that It's just uncontrollable at higher speeds.
Watch out for the powder metal diffs in the 16th scale.
Mine lasted about 30 packs before the rear one stripped.
Happy bashing!
@Boogie_the_cat I'd say 30 packs is not too bad for a cheap car like this.
A bettet comparison would have been the h16bm
I don't disagree but this was the car I had and the point was kind of that even though this car is bigger I still think that the Grom is better.
Great Review, I'm really glad to see you cover the reparability difference between the two trucks, the true build quality and hardware. I like the size of the Hyper Go truck, but the build quality didn't look that good to me. I would love to see Arrma come out with a brushless 1/14 scale version of the Grom. I have a LC Racing 1/14th truggy and it's an awesome little vehicle.
Yeah it's pretty similar to the build quality of any of these modern Chinese trucks. It's not bad It's just frustrating when you try to repair it because you can pretty clearly tell that it was not designed with ease of repair in mind and that's a pretty critical thing on an RC car.
I'd say: just get a Losi Reflex 14mt, it's brushless out of the box.
@@ivanluhi 14mt is a sweet truck. I have one of those as well. Expensive though!
@@DoRC but I think if you are planning on modding the Grom to brushless, the price difference would not be much (and the car is smaller). Personally I didn't thought that the Phillips screws on a 1/16 MJX would be a big deal, but now that I have to rebuild it (several screws rusted after a trip to the beach, didn't even got it wet, just ran in the sand) I don't think I'd buy another car with so many different sizes on Phillips screws.
Nice review btw.
@ivanluhi Yeah honestly I kind of have just felt like the crappy screws and non-maintenance friendly nature of the vehicles came with the territory with small RCs but the Grom disproves that in a big way. It's the smallest car I have and probably the easiest to work on car that I have.
the comparison is not really fair the arrma is compared with a Traxxas latrax teton 1/18 brushed, losi mini t 1/18, a redcat volcano 16, on the Chinese rc it is compared with the hbx 1/18 brushed or brushless, perhaps with the 16889, even at this moment on Amazon, there is a very similar truck for 89 dollars (hypergo copy) brushed motor but according to videos it is misleading advertising since they do not have a fan or oil suspension, you cannot compare a brushed motor with one without brushes, and less at those scales, it would be fairer to compare the 1/14 with the team associated 1/14, one thing is speed, another is duration and ease of getting spare parts
Whereas I understand your point of view I did explain in the video why I was making the comparison. Even though the Arrma is smaller It's superior build quality means it's able to handle rough terrain at least as well as the larger hyper go. I also mentioned in the video that I think the Grom should be upgraded to brushless in order to be the most fun and once upgraded to brushless it specs speed and cost are fairly similar. The Grom is smaller but because of how well it handles I think it's fair to compare to cars that are larger. It handles and bashes like a larger car. Also this is a fairly new release from hypergo and the Grom is a fairly new release from Arrma. People looking at one may very well be looking at the other even though they aren't exactly the same size.
Thanks for watching!
I have the Deerc 14210. Pretty much the same car. At least with MJX cars you get batteries and a charger. I haven't seen an Arrma yet that comes with either. And don't say you're at top speed and then pop a wheelie FFS.
Not sure what you mean by the wheelie thing. Some vehicles are not very aerodynamic and at high speed tend to try to lift off the ground. This is one of them so above a certain speed wheelies pretty much all you're going to get.
I will get the new MJX after my bd and its just around the corner.
Anyways, nice video.
I don't think you'll be disappointed. It's kind of a pain to work on and it's a handful on 3S but it's still powerful durable and fun! Thanks for watching :-)
@@DoRCTrue, it will be a pain to work on it but, I think it will help me get more experience on working on rc cars that are bigger that this one.
You forgot there's a switch on the esc that makes the Mjx fast like 50mph you did not read the instructions 😢
I did read the instructions and I did do that process. The speed I got was with the ESC unlocked. Offroad speed is always going to be a little bit slower than on road speed simply because there's more friction and more bumps which makes it harder to get an absolute top speed. That being said I like to do my top speeds off-road when possible because that's for these cars are really going to be used. 40 miles an hour is plenty fast enough off-road for a car that handles this poorly. Thanks for watching :-)
Ok we get it dude, you like the grom....😂
What can I say it's an awesome platform! Don't get me wrong these cars are cool too and depending on what your priorities are something like this might be better but I really like things that are easy to work on.
So glad I watched this before ordering the MJX. I already have a grom and love it. Looks like that MJX is going to frequently need parts that I'm not going to be able to get easily.
I wouldn't say it necessarily will frequently need parts. It's a pretty durable car but it is a pain to work on and getting parts can be a little challenging If you do need them.
Yeah I have it, but not impressed with handling
The handling is not impressive.
the slop the nightmare repairs are a insta no go for me
Yeah it's a fun car but honestly the Grom has just raised the bar for what a small car should be and for me at least these other platforms just don't stack up anymore.
ended up getting a grom. extremely happy with the chassis however the battery i got didnt charge to start with. however was planning to go brushless anyway so that just gave me the push to do so lol.@@DoRC
@lyst5946 It's probably the charger. The included charger is a little fussy about what USB source hit accepts. The manual will show you what the lights on the charger should be doing. If they're not doing that most likely your power source isn't compatible with the charger.
Mjx all the way it's really not that bad to take apart
If it existed in a vacuum I might agree but in a world where the Grom platform exists it kind of is. To access a differential the difference between nine screws of two different types and 31 screws of nine different types is noticeable.
@@DoRC are you exxagerating or is it that much to get to the mjx diff?
@@t3floz I think I show it in the video. It's not an exaggeration
I don't think you have a H16BM you have the 14210 there are noticeable differences
The only functional difference between the two is that the HP 14M has the same universal shafts in the front as it does in the rear. It also comes with a slightly different body paint job and the ESC locked down from the factory. Other than that they're identical. That's why I have them both listed in the title because a review for one is pretty much a review for the other.
Philp screws ? no way!
Yeah pretty much all of the Amazon special smaller RCs use Philips screws still
I got the h14bm and it's been nothing but problems. Idk I'm super disappointed hyper go so far.
What kind of issues have you had?
@DoRC no jumps, just driving I've had the rear diff Crack in half, rear bearings break, replaced the steering arms, the reciever clonked out, steering servo had to be replaced, the tires came unglued, rims cracked in various places, the telescoping cvds broke pins came out not the screws, need peened maybe. I've spent probably 400+ dollars in this little truggy because I like it but dude... I don't even drive it 100% and I'm also super careful not to throttle it like a crazy person. It's just one thing after another. Might just stop trying to fix it.
@@eliflynn7282 That's a bummer. Is that on 2S or 3S?
@DoRC 3s. But like I said I'm not hard on the car because I only have it and the 16889a pro. The hbx I repeatedly beat the living spot out of but the h14bm is just driving up and down the street. It's junk so far
@@eliflynn7282 Yeah unfortunately it just really isn't up to handling 3S. I've never had as many durability problems as you but the the drivetrain just wasn't made for it.
In my country the mjx cost less than the grom
Yeah I can really only speak to the prices here in the US. It's going to be different everywhere
Poorly designed mines been recycled already , it’s a shame could have been better if stuff was accessible to work on . Those pesky screws glad it wasn’t just me
Yeah it's a fun little car but I agree that the design isn't the best. Thanks for watching!
That stripped screw entirely your fault... where did you learn that you just like a hog in the brsuh go into a threadlocked screw with an electric screwdriver i want to know... also for a 1/18 th scale brushed shit the arrma is a no thnak you for 90% of enthusiast rc collectors who also likes to have fun... Also you don't get the HB14M those have upgraded components and the speed mdoe don't lie on the video those are different.....
I've been a professional mechanic for over 20 years and I have been working on RC cars for about the same amount of time. I have removed tens of thousands of screws in that time period. I very rarely strip out a screw. That screw strip because the head of the screw is very soft not because of my technique. Off camera I also tried to remove the screw by hand with a slotted screwdriver. The slot also stripped out.
The difference between the two ESCs is not that one of them has a higher speed mode It's that one of them comes out of the box with the full power potential locked out. The one I have simply doesn't have that lock out from the factory. The only component that is different between the two is that the HB 14M has the same universals in the front as in the rear. Other than that they are mechanically identical. Thanks for watching :-)
@@DoRC Well i'm 100% sure you started with basic screwdriver like anyone else and were very careful first to not damage anything. We had a car mechanic for the alst 20 year sand ha was fucknig good but tiems goes by and 2 years ago he damaged my car beyond repair with a basic hole repair on the indercarriage and he is so brooke i can't even sue him out of his money to raplace my burned out car stil l with the rust hole in it so i needed to buy another car. Long story short he was cocky since he does this soo long the same applies to you, it's just a hand flich for you and fucked up the screw...
@@maszkalman3676 here's the thing. I use that exact same driver with those exact same methods on every single RC car I work on. I almost never strip out a screw. If that screw stripped out using the exact same methodology I use on every single car I work on it leads me to believe the problem is with The screw not with my methodology.
If I have to change my methodology significantly to accommodate the quality of the screw again I feel like that's the screws fault not mine.
That being said we're all entitled to our own opinions and I appreciate you sharing yours :-)
@@DoRC Well the point is in a hex screw is waay different than a philips screw if you are that good of a repairman you should know it you can't put the same force in it do you??? by your standards if i want to take out a m6 hex i can just pull out a breaker bar and force it and be surprised that it strips? 🤣 A good repairman know which part needs how much power or how careful you need to be with to disasemble right?
Thank you for your feedback!
Always comes down to the same thing, can I get replacement parts at my local hobby shop....... No. I get it these Chinese companies send influencers a crap ton of these and you have to say good stuff or you might not get the next junk car they send. Most of these cars are discontinued after a year.
I buy all my parts online so that's not as much of a concern for me but I do think that spare parts won't be available as long for something like this as it will for the Grom.
I will say though that before the Grom I would have had a different opinion of this. This is fairly similar in quality and usability to most other small cars you can get. The Grom just raises the bar. I really hope that arrma comes out with a slightly larger version.
Mine came with Hex screws on the bottom plate/chassis, waiting 2 try the 5x push on the ESC 💯😜👊👍✌️🦅🇺🇸🦼
That's cool. Looks like the new one will come with hex screws too!
Mjx is definitely better.
In some ways yes but in other ways not so much.
MJX is better, cheaper, bigger ! brushless ! you're just hater and Arrma grom a toy ! and i 've got one ! non , two MJX now !
I would say you getting more out of the box with the MJX cars but they're harder to work on don't handle as well part support isn't as good upgrade support isn't as good and warranty support isn't as good. Which one you prefer just depends on what you're looking for.
@@DoRC you can find all parts, in France too ! upgrade more than you need, it's not a real comparison , because you just talk about mjx direction ...i've got the Arrma Mojave 4s, direction is worth than this and you can drive it ! grom granite and typhon are brushed and 1/18 ! i'm happy with MJX, i've got two for one grom !!
@jiji0496 Yeah the MJX cars are more expensive here in the US as well as parts are harder to get. I think your opinion will largely depend on where you are in the world. Don't get me wrong I think MJX is good as well but I have multiple their vehicles. Just for my own personal preference I like the groms better.
@@DoRC ok, but you don't do a real comparison ! take two rc side by side ! brushless against brushed, leds, options, i bought it for 100 and 120 € and you ? grom here it's 180 € and you must change radio, motor ....grom it's the same ! i like Arrma , i've got Mojave 4, but i will never buy an rc , 180 € and change all the parts ! and a new MJX 1/10 come to win face to Granite, better ! have a nice day ;)
@jiji0496 Again just a side-by-side comparison doesn't tell the whole story. At least here in the USA The Grom has a better warranty, better parts support, better upgrades. It is easier to work on for sure and it is definitely tighter handling than the HB14M. The HB14M is faster more powerful cheaper and some would say better looking.
Again they both have their advantages and disadvantages just like anything. What you like will depend on which of those things are important to you.
Junk
They're actually pretty fun and have their place though they definitely have limitations especially when it comes to serviceability
@@DoRC they also seem to handle like a soggy biscuit but I do see them being fun to give to the kids
@nickbates2009 Yeah the entire steering system is too sloppy for the power that they put into them.