The approach that Hashut is a god the soon-to-be Chaos Dwarfs manifested themselves really makes their origin a dark story, since it means they worship their desire to survive, no matter the cost to any others.
If you think of the Chaos gods as vorticies in the warp, then you can imagine that these vorticies generate lesser eddies and currents. Sometimes the eddies from two gods merge and combine, like two storms coming together. Thus a new chaos god is created, with traits of its two parents. i think Hashut is being like this, the merging of khornate and tzeentchian energies, given form by the Chaos Dwarfs.
For daemons, I think they follow the same lore as 40k, which is a greater daemon is an extension of a Gods own power and can be reabsorbed at will. It's also not impossible that Hashut was created by the chaos dwarves themselves as the act of hope and belief in enough people can do such things
i am just getting into warhammer, both fantasy and 40k. your videos are a great intro to the lore, i had no idea where to start initially. sigmar audiobooks, your videos and the comic anthology has been such a huge help. it being two different yet similar universes felt really overwhelming initially, thanks for the vids dude they are greatly appreciated!
I have never heard of the Bull Centaurs needing to be repaired as if they were made of metal, or of them slowly turning into metal. I have heard the exact process you describe for Bull Centaur healing (word for word) put on the K'daii, the half-demon half-machine creatures of the Sorcerer-Priests creation.
This information is coming from the tamurkhan and the monstrous arcanum and is referring to bull centaurs as they get later into life. As far as I know the younger ones are just flesh and blood and yes the same method is used to repair the k’daai.
Hm, something I never heard anywhere else, but sweet. Thank you for the information that every other Warhammer Lore youtuber, and Chaos Dwarf fan missed/forgot.
not sure why it took me so long to find you... Haven't shown up with "warhammer lore" search at all in the last year? Solid videos though keel up the good work! Ps a single play list with all your lore videos woud be ace. All the best.
I really hope after WH3 adds chaos dwarfs that they become more fleshed out; you'd think with all the love and attention the dark elves get they'd throw the chaos dwarfs a bone, especially since they're a much better evil opposite. Can you imagine how powerful they'd become if they DID find a solution to the petrification? yum
I was really hoping that hashut would become a major chaos god by now, stupid Aos. Oh well, in my Tw3 campaign, i always play choas dwarf to conquer the world, making hashut the superme chaos god in warhammer fantasy. 😎 😈
I believe the Persians used the Iron Bull as execution method as well, which would make sense since the Dawi Zhar are basically not-Persi-Babylo-Assyrians.
If you look at the dark even black beards, use of slave legions and what Europeans considered “evil sorcery” it actually seems that was the inspiration.
Persians didn't invent, or as far as we have evidence, use the brass bull- that was one of the Greek colonies (I think Syracuse). Carthage worshipped Baal as one of their gods, but again, no evidence of brass bull usage.
So Phoenicians were known to burn offerings to their gods, as far as archeology has show these sacrifices were livestocks and crops. However the Old Testaments and Roman Records claimed that Phoenicians practiced human sacrifice, but it’s hard to say how much you should take these sources at their word since the Romans and Ancient Israelites loved to trash talk and slander their neighbors and make them seem as barbaric as possible. It might be possible that Human sacrifices happened rarely especially in dire circumstances like being in a losing war with Rome/Israel and fearing that your city was going to sacked, but as I said there’s not nearly as much evidence as with the wide scale sacrifices preformed in Mesoamerica by the Aztecs.
I often subscribe to the theory of Hashut being an fallen ancestor god, the first dwarf sorcerer, and after the power of the warp corrupted him, is why magic is not able to be used by the dwarfs and why Valaya and Grungi taught the dwarves how to make runes
One of my favorite things about the Chaos Dwarfs is that you can kind of get where they're coming from. They were cut off from the rest of dwarfkind, besieged on all sides by demons, suffering from mutations that had never been seen before, and seemingly abandoned by their gods. When Hashut came along and offered them a way to stop the mutations and the power to drive back the demons, all for the price of rejecting the Ancestors Gods who had already abandoned them? Yeah. Of course they're going to take that option, to matter how ominous Hashut is.
This video was superb! Love learning more about chaos dawi! And thanks for letting us know more about how each race reproduce. That aspect is too often left behind in other lores videos.
I don't think he is. There are clearly minor chaos gods that exist, and I don't see any reason why Hashut would not be one. He is manifestation of chaos dwarfs desperate will to live no matter the cost.
You are referring to the Brazen Bill. Created by Perillos of Athens who gave it to Phalaris, the tyrant of Akragas, Sicily, as a new means of executing criminals and the like. Perillos ended up in the very same Bull as Phalaris was both amazed and disgusted and thought anyone capable of creating something so malicious should die by the same invention
Absolutely Top Notch, I just found your channel today and I can tell you, as someone who knows a lot of lore, but likes to hear it spoken and revised with opinions and your epic pronunciation (which is on point by the way) this video alone has earned my subscription. Cheers JT!
I do plan on doing a Thanquol video, but I don’t think it will be anytime soon. I want to get ahold of all of the material he is in and actually put together a good time line, and as you probably know he is in a great deal of the warhammer lore.
All these years later and I still think you’re lord series was the most interesting to listen to, coming bac to it everytime i play warhammer totalwar for some background, wish you would return
Hashut is his own entity, just like the entity the emperor of man sealed away in a sword that's now used by abaddon. The entity that embodied the first murder. Hashut is an entity like that, he is independent of the main chaos gods.
Watching this video makes me want you to make one about Malal the renegade or forgotten 5th Chaos God. He even has his own magic lore and units that are part of the Warhammer Fantasy setting and are different from his 40k army and playstyle. Here are 2 links: 1d4chan.org/wiki/Malal_Daemonkin 1d4chan.org/wiki/Forces_of_Malal
The approach that Hashut is a god the soon-to-be Chaos Dwarfs manifested themselves really makes their origin a dark story, since it means they worship their desire to survive, no matter the cost to any others.
If you think of the Chaos gods as vorticies in the warp, then you can imagine that these vorticies generate lesser eddies and currents. Sometimes the eddies from two gods merge and combine, like two storms coming together. Thus a new chaos god is created, with traits of its two parents. i think Hashut is being like this, the merging of khornate and tzeentchian energies, given form by the Chaos Dwarfs.
temmy9 that's incredibly insightful. Much like.
That's a really cool take, I love that
This is a good way too think about it
I think he's the bloodthirster that turned on khorne it made sense to me that tzeench magic influenced him to do so.
For daemons, I think they follow the same lore as 40k, which is a greater daemon is an extension of a Gods own power and can be reabsorbed at will. It's also not impossible that Hashut was created by the chaos dwarves themselves as the act of hope and belief in enough people can do such things
blazednlovinit that's how the Maul ( the ogres god) was created. Or at least that's the theory.
Just like the orcs create their own gods hashut is a manifestation of their hate twords the other dwarfs
i am just getting into warhammer, both fantasy and 40k. your videos are a great intro to the lore, i had no idea where to start initially. sigmar audiobooks, your videos and the comic anthology has been such a huge help. it being two different yet similar universes felt really overwhelming initially, thanks for the vids dude they are greatly appreciated!
crudechad I appreciate the confidence man thanks for watching.
I have never heard of the Bull Centaurs needing to be repaired as if they were made of metal, or of them slowly turning into metal.
I have heard the exact process you describe for Bull Centaur healing (word for word) put on the K'daii, the half-demon half-machine creatures of the Sorcerer-Priests creation.
This information is coming from the tamurkhan and the monstrous arcanum and is referring to bull centaurs as they get later into life. As far as I know the younger ones are just flesh and blood and yes the same method is used to repair the k’daai.
Hm, something I never heard anywhere else, but sweet. Thank you for the information that every other Warhammer Lore youtuber, and Chaos Dwarf fan missed/forgot.
Nice! I've been looking forward to this video.
not sure why it took me so long to find you... Haven't shown up with "warhammer lore" search at all in the last year? Solid videos though keel up the good work! Ps a single play list with all your lore videos woud be ace. All the best.
I really hope after WH3 adds chaos dwarfs that they become more fleshed out; you'd think with all the love and attention the dark elves get they'd throw the chaos dwarfs a bone, especially since they're a much better evil opposite. Can you imagine how powerful they'd become if they DID find a solution to the petrification? yum
more plez tanks ok
I was really hoping that hashut would become a major chaos god by now, stupid Aos. Oh well, in my Tw3 campaign, i always play choas dwarf to conquer the world, making hashut the superme chaos god in warhammer fantasy. 😎 😈
I believe the Persians used the Iron Bull as execution method as well, which would make sense since the Dawi Zhar are basically not-Persi-Babylo-Assyrians.
If you look at the dark even black beards, use of slave legions and what Europeans considered “evil sorcery” it actually seems that was the inspiration.
Actually Carthagina used the great brass bull as their main god but the greeks also had one which was used to kill the one who made it.
Persians didn't invent, or as far as we have evidence, use the brass bull- that was one of the Greek colonies (I think Syracuse).
Carthage worshipped Baal as one of their gods, but again, no evidence of brass bull usage.
So Phoenicians were known to burn offerings to their gods, as far as archeology has show these sacrifices were livestocks and crops. However the Old Testaments and Roman Records claimed that Phoenicians practiced human sacrifice, but it’s hard to say how much you should take these sources at their word since the Romans and Ancient Israelites loved to trash talk and slander their neighbors and make them seem as barbaric as possible. It might be possible that Human sacrifices happened rarely especially in dire circumstances like being in a losing war with Rome/Israel and fearing that your city was going to sacked, but as I said there’s not nearly as much evidence as with the wide scale sacrifices preformed in Mesoamerica by the Aztecs.
Now, 5 years later and we're FINALLY on the brink of meeting Hashut. I can hardly wait for the Chaos Dwarfs, they look SOOOO good :D
I often subscribe to the theory of Hashut being an fallen ancestor god, the first dwarf sorcerer, and after the power of the warp corrupted him, is why magic is not able to be used by the dwarfs and why Valaya and Grungi taught the dwarves how to make runes
You'd have to be really bloody desperate to turn your soul over to a god known as "the father of darkness"
One of my favorite things about the Chaos Dwarfs is that you can kind of get where they're coming from.
They were cut off from the rest of dwarfkind, besieged on all sides by demons, suffering from mutations that had never been seen before, and seemingly abandoned by their gods.
When Hashut came along and offered them a way to stop the mutations and the power to drive back the demons, all for the price of rejecting the Ancestors Gods who had already abandoned them?
Yeah. Of course they're going to take that option, to matter how ominous Hashut is.
The furnace is a reference to the Brazen Bull of Perillos of Athens.
Which Perillos was threw in the bull by the Tyrant of Sicily, who used it a lot
This video was superb! Love learning more about chaos dawi! And thanks for letting us know more about how each race reproduce. That aspect is too often left behind in other lores videos.
It is my opinion, and theory that Hashut is one of Lord Tzeentch's many alternate forms.
Perhaps, but tzeentch is famously unreliable while Hashut isn’t
I don't think he is. There are clearly minor chaos gods that exist, and I don't see any reason why Hashut would not be one. He is manifestation of chaos dwarfs desperate will to live no matter the cost.
I hope Chaos dwarfs gets released in a DLC like the Tomb Kings, alongside the ogres.
You are referring to the Brazen Bill. Created by Perillos of Athens who gave it to Phalaris, the tyrant of Akragas, Sicily, as a new means of executing criminals and the like. Perillos ended up in the very same Bull as Phalaris was both amazed and disgusted and thought anyone capable of creating something so malicious should die by the same invention
Great video series. The Chaos stunties always fascinated me. Lots and lots of nice artwork and your voice is easy on the ears.
Absolutely Top Notch, I just found your channel today and I can tell you, as someone who knows a lot of lore, but likes to hear it spoken and revised with opinions and your epic pronunciation (which is on point by the way) this video alone has earned my subscription.
Cheers JT!
But what if Hashut is Tzeentch being a shit disturber?
Hashut cannot be Tzeentch, as Chaos Dwarfs are still Dwarfs, and do not lie
Thanks for making these great lore videos. Is there any chance that you will be making a Thanquol video in the near future?
I do plan on doing a Thanquol video, but I don’t think it will be anytime soon. I want to get ahold of all of the material he is in and actually put together a good time line, and as you probably know he is in a great deal of the warhammer lore.
All these years later and I still think you’re lord series was the most interesting to listen to, coming bac to it everytime i play warhammer totalwar for some background, wish you would return
Hashut it Moloch
I know this video is older so so my comment probably will never be seen.
But what's the music in the video?
It is listed in the description
@@jumbothick2984 lmao whoops
Hashut is his own entity, just like the entity the emperor of man sealed away in a sword that's now used by abaddon. The entity that embodied the first murder. Hashut is an entity like that, he is independent of the main chaos gods.
Watching this video makes me want you to make one about Malal the renegade or forgotten 5th Chaos God. He even has his own magic lore and units that are part of the Warhammer Fantasy setting and are different from his 40k army and playstyle.
Here are 2 links: 1d4chan.org/wiki/Malal_Daemonkin
1d4chan.org/wiki/Forces_of_Malal
OK serious suggestion Jumbo . You should do another video like this. But for the hobgoblin cognate.
You should have just googled it, this was all "new" lore.
They really need to add Chaos Dwarves to TWWH2.
If I'm not mistaken the brazen bull torture method was invented by the ancient Greeks. Cool mention.
Ba'al statue basically. Phoenician.
do a endtimes lore/ event timeline
Hey I like your lore vids, will you ever do empire lore?
Yes I will eventually tackle the beast that is the empire, but it is not on the immediate timeline.
cool thanks
😈🐂
This is my favorit lore video and faction GW needs to show them some love and bring them back in AoS
They are in AoS. Legion of Azgorh is a fully legal army