Hey, never underestimate the value of comfort (pub with fireplace, etc.), particularly when you've done your miles for the day! Feels like a good choice to me.
Everybody has a down day when they just can't be bothered, and it's not like you hadn't already pushed yourself hard with the kit and then the disappointment of having to re-track. Don't beat yourself up about it, you are an inspiration to us newbie scramblers! Thank you for all that you do to encourage us to get out there.
I love how open and honest you were in this video, this was such a helpful lesson to me and I’m so glad you shared. What a challenging decision, when 30 minutes away is a warm pub! I love watching your videos from the US!
Done the same many times there’s nothing wrong with rethinking your plan it’s not a challenge it’s about enjoyment Always go with your gut feeling there’s always another day You had a nice day out improving your nav 👍 😀🐾
Hey we have all been their Athena, sometimes plans don't go right or we just don't feel in the mood. Like a lot of people will say its about having fun and enjoying the day, its not about UA-cam or the quality of video for others to see. I have walked the route you took many a time in all weathers, it can be hard work especially with a heavy pack. The body is not a machine and we have to listen to it when it says 'nope not today'. You videos are always quality and you hike and trek most places in all weather so you have nothing to prove to anyone or yourself. Take care, atb Bill.
Don’t beat yourself up, the hills will wait for you. I suffer with anxiety and have turned back many times on a planned bike packing trip because my head wasn’t right
It’s a bummer when it strikes in the middle. You end up taking just in case stuff with you for then on. You have to have it to understand how debilitating it is.
I wouldn't be too hard on yourself. Sometimes the stars just align against us, whether it be general mood, weather, fatigue and of course the long winter nights, or more likely a combination of them all. I know lots of people love winter wild camping but give me April and May overnighters any day. The nights are shorter, the weather is typically half-decent and the skylarks and meadow pipits are back on the moors. I did my first ever winter wild camp a fortnight ago and although I was comfortable, it was a long night!
Thanks Chris, agree about winter wildcamping! They can be really rewarding, but the nights are long and you have to be in the right frame of mind... I think I just wasn't on this occasion. Thanks for your comment and support :)
Yea thats a great way to put it. Weird in NYC i get a cup of coffee and just walk and watch its my therapy. And these videos with the scenery and music i can do it from my chair!
Hi Athena. Found your channel last week & I must say I think it is fantastic. As for not camping I think you made the correct call. It's never easy to turn back but as I found out on Galtymore a few weeks ago you must listen to mother nature. We had young children hiking with us but decided to turn back less then 1K from the summit as it was just too windy & the children were no longer enjoying it. The mountains will always be there. Keep up the good work.
Always good to catch up. I think going with your gut feeling is the first thing to follow. Although in hindsight you were trying to give reasons to camp, it made more sense to come down and self care. It’s not a failure, your being human, that makes your channel authentic unlike some. X
Glad you made this video! I've been in this situation plenty of times before! Most recently on a trip to Scotland last week where I ended up in a hotel. Whilst being in the hotel was nice, it wasn't the 'adventurous' trip I originally planned! I think we just have to remind ourselves how amazing we feel after being adventurous and camping etc!
One of the things I've learned in life, is that if it's work you generally have to do it. If it's fun, you don't have to knock yourself out if you change your plans. I like going beach fishing, i have all the kit i need to keep comfortable, warm and dry. But sometimes with all the right intentions i just change my mind and cut it short. If you let it become a chore it takes the fun out of it. Sometimes it just isn't the right time. Anyways, lovely video as usual, all the best Steve.
You should not feel bad about bailing AT ALL! Always follow your instincts. I once camped up in the lake district and set off to climb a peak with full kit, being used to hiking in South African mountains where we always hike and camp out. Little did I realise that most sensible people camp in the valley and do the peak as a day outing! It was getting late as I neared the summit and some people passing joked with me, as I was setting up my tent, that I was in for a wild night. I was blissfully unaware that a full blow was approaching. I had an awful night as the storm did its best to tear my tent apart, the boulder (only shelter) I was perched behind doing little to break the force of the wind. The banging of the canvas was so loud I did not sleep a wink. The next day it was pouring so my objective of solo climbing a rock outcrop went out the window. I ended up hiking down the back of the peak to the nearest farm (completely out of my way!) I then spent three days pinned inside a one man tunnel tent (max claustrophobia!!) as the rain bucketed down incessantly. By then I had had enough and decided to hike out to the nearest town to catch a bus back to the Lake district proper. 13 miles of slogging on tar roads ensued with my hopeful hitch-hiking thumb being stolidly ignored by passing locals. I popped into a pub for directions and was stunned by the offhand and snooty attitude of the people there who did not give me the time of day (I guess I stank a bit by then!). Eventually with a mile and a bit to go I slumped on the verge of the road to rest - only to sit down firmly (I had my pack on) on a patch of stinging nettles! Ow!!! I leapt up and marched the remaining distance to civilisation. All in all it was horrible trip lifted only by the sheer beauty of the Lake district. It was a good lesson in knowing when to bail, when it just best to abandon your objectives and do the sensible thing. And yes, I have since spent more miserable nights up in the hills when I was unable to convince climbing partners that the weather simply wasn't right - pushing to climb a multi-pitch, hard project can blind people to sensibility when everyone has little time available to get out there and make progress on the climb. As a last note of warning a friend died when they were approaching a climb along a trick ledge with slippery grass after rain. We spoke to them on the phone moments before the accident, I had a strong premonition that they shouldn't proceed until things had dried up - unfortunately they did not listen to my protestation and advice to wait. So - never let your ambitions over-rule your common sense and instinctual feelings about the situation. Stay safe so that we can enjoy more of your wonderful videos!
Hi Athena, Great video and enjoyed your honest reflections. I felt for you and know that feeling of being ‘paralysed by indecision’ - it’s a bugger when it happens! When faced with such a situation, I fast forward the film - so to speak, and try to ask myself ‘Will I regret taking the decision I am about to make?’ - if yes, then re-think. However, listening to my heart versus my head can be a complicated matter especially when cold and tired. You did great.
An enjoyable hike. I made it up to Alport Castles in the heatwave of July and it was refreshing to see the area in a different atmosphere. I watch a lot of people who are in to wild camping at this time of year and they often complain about spending "14 hours in a tent" and feeling cold throughout the night... I wholeheartedly respect your choices! ;-) I think it's important to do what's right for you and not so much what may/may not benefit your channel, if that makes sense.
Walks With Olly winter wildcamping is definitely not easy! Especially when solo. I’d like to do a few more but definitely have to be in the right frame of mind 🙏🏼
Another great video Athena. Really enjoy your honest and down to earth approach, your candid chats to camera and your adventurous, positive but humanly fallible spirit.
Hi, have had the same moments. Actually right now laying in bed, instead of in a tent in the forest in Finland (too windy and just about plus degrees, so wet...). So I know how you feel. But you need these moments, so next time when it happens you are more determine to stay (and loving it afterwards). Just found your channel last week, and I really like it, since I am doing similar hikes in the Nordics. So keep it going 😊👍
Athena that was a cracking wet, windy and wild day out on the hill. Thanks for taking us along. I like the fact you show us your route on the map as you progress along the trail. Even more thanks for dragging us into that nice pub and sitting us in front of the fire.....you earned it but we didn't. Hope to see lots more of your adventures and never feel the need to apologise...!!!
Hello Athena Please don,t beat yourself up about changing your plans,as we have all been there,you have not let yourself or us down as we really appreciate your honesty many thanks
Hi Athena ! You clearly do not take the path of least resistance, you completed the hike. You simply made a good decision. Like everyone else has said, listen to your gut. That said, it is as much a case of all the little issues add up to outweigh camping. The best thing is you highlighted it in the video and did not hide the fact. You are being real to yourself and to you viewers. Great job.
Hello Athena. You may of changed your wild camping plans, but you still managed a awesome hike. As with all your video's.. there a joy to watch, well documented and well edited. Keep up the fantastic work Athena and good luck on your next adventure.
Totally nothing wrong with that. Sometimes you can feel “just not up for it” despite the best intentions. Never have any regrets, the hills will be there next time, and they are no place for pride or pushing an uncomfortable position ... whatever the conditions. Good choice - pub, dinner, home, bath. Nice one.
As a new hiker this past year (196.4 miles) it's helpful for me to see that sometimes you just need to trust your gut and call it a day. I recently found your channel and am really enjoying it. I have not doubt I'm going to learn a lot from your videos and hike way past 200 miles in 2020.
Your videos are so therapeutic. ✨ Thank you for sharing your adventures with us. You've inspired me to get back on the trails. Love your channel from Tennessee. ♥️
Been there a fews time before. The beauty of the outdoors is having the freedom to choose. Going prepared is the key even if it's to turn back or not stay. You got a got a great hike in and what's not to like about that. Ramble on. :)
How do Athena,I think your great for showing realty of wild camping.People get in real trouble letting pride and ego getting in way of good decisions. You looked very cold and would have spent all night trying to warm up.I have stayed out many times in brutal conditions because of ego and I'd love to say To my youngself that's it ok to kick back down and enjoy some pub grub and nice cup of tea.As I said thank for showing the reality of wild camping.Be kind to Yourself .
It is so hard to know sometimes if that cheeky inner voice is right, but in the end it is most important to go with your gut. You'll camp the next time, or maybe you wont and that's okay too. I feel have the feeling that I am not being hardcore enough a lot but how lucky are we to get to choose if we want a nice cozy pup dinner or a night in the cold. So much easier said than done but no need to guilt, you are totally cool. Thanks for the videos!
I’ve had times like this as well & there’s no need to feel guilty about it. I’ve learned to trust my gut when it comes to whatever I’m feeling & I know that I’m doing what’s best for me (I hike solo 95% of the time.) The mountains will always be there waiting 😊.
I totally get it about the sleepless night with the wind Athena and I subscribe to having a cracking walk with a full pack on my back with a warm fire and some real ale after. We cycled over to a classic cycling cafe in The Yorkshire Dales yesterday where they had a proper log fire on the go with a proper pot of tea. Ace !. It might take a bit of editing to tell the story but like you I always try to capture the moments the best I can.
This video was real and honest , thank you. All too often we only show our successes and talk about the fun we had, when sometimes we change our minds or just don't feel our best. Plan do change and so do conditions. Cheers and again thank you for being real.
I completely understand the dilemma of deciding to stay out or go for comfort. It is especially hard when you are uncomfortable and you have in your mind that you can easily get out to comfort. I’ve done it before and also felt bad about it and wished I hadn’t. However I have also bailed and been very happy about it. Just two weeks ago I was winter camping in the backcountry for three nights and cut it short by one night due to a forecast of heavy rain and freezing rain. In that case, while I would have liked to stay out, I think I made the right choice. Great video btw.
Hi Athena, nothing wrong with going with your gut feeling.. I've bailed on camping before, and quit my ''thru hike'' of the Southern Upland Way in Scotland because of the mental game not being there at that point. Theres regret somewhere deep inside, but in the end you're always out to have a good time, not having to push yourself too much.
I came across your channel for the first time this weekend and I have binge watched your videos on the way home from work on the train since then. Thank you for making a boring commute 100% more interesting and I look forward to your future content :)
Hi Athena, I did the same thing back in late July. I started the Pennine Way with 4 days available. After taking a wrong turn which resulted in burning myself out going up to Crowden Tower via Crowden Brook I just bailed and came back to Somerset that same evening. I'm still kicking myself for not spending time to recover then continuing on my walk.
No regrets, the hike was worth the outing! Listen to your inner-voice and be safe; you’ll have another go at it now that you are aware of the surroundings. Thanks for sharing!
Hi Athena, just finished watching your hike, my god the weather was not kind at all. I listened intently to your explanation of why you did not pitch your tent and camp out. I think you are being a little hard on yourself, you are a experienced walker and have camped in harsher areas, with probably worse weather but on this occasion you decided to come off the mountain. There is nothing to be upset about, you did what you thought was right for you at that moment in time. You are the one on the ground, getting battered by the elements therefore you have to make sure that you are safe and well. I can’t count how many times that has happened to me lol our saving grace is that we still enjoy what we do and no doubt will put ourselves into the same situations and each time we will do something different. In closing please don’t be so hard on yourself, you entertained us and gave us lots of stunning views to to wet our appetite for what to come. Take care and be safe 👍
Really enjoyed the video and your honest reflection rather than hiding the 'failed camp', hope you didn't dwell on it for too long! I've basically watched all of your videos over the last few weeks it's rekindled some of my lost passion for the things I love (hike/bike/boulder), especially hiking in the Peak District as it's only an hours drive. Please let us know if there are ways to support such as donations or Patreon :)
leanne182x thank you Leanne, that’s so kind of you 🙏🏼 I actually set up a Patreon recently but am still ‘perfecting it’ and making sure what I offer is worth it for you and doable for me. I will promote it soon and would be so appreciative of anything you can give. Thank you 🙏🏼
so many excuses - so relate-able ! There are many reasons not to do something, and many to do it. I recently read somewhere that we could benefit from doing things simply because we want to. So we go and camp on a hill, because we want to. Not actually camp when we get there, because we want to go back (or to the pub). Cutting a two night trip to a one day trip, because we want to. There doesn't need to be a reason for stopping, even more so on a solo trip. You definitely don't need to justify your decisions to anyone else, not even yourself. Life is for living in the moment and enjoying each one of those moments
I'm not as seasoned a walker as you but I cancelled a walk some weeks back on a small mountain in Wales as there was sideways sleet and strong winds sweeping in - I got some grief from one or two people for cancelling. Like you, I'm not easily put off, but trust my gut if it doesn't feel right. Too bad if others see it as backing out. You inspire me.
Just wanna start off by saying that you've inspired me to start my 2020 with hiking again, it's been almost a year since I've been out. So, this past Friday and Saturday (10/11 JAN) I went to Peak District to head up on Kinder Scout and Padley Gorge, inspired by the video you made BTW. You're a true ambassador to UK wilderness. I think that you hit the spot on having the comfort of having someone pick you up if you don't want to deal with certain things. I absolutely love the rain I've pitched my tent in the rain, snow, and a calm cold day, but honestly when the wind comes into factor I rather call it a day. I wouldn't be surprised if the wind was your one true factor for calling it a day too. Thank you for creating your videos, they're great and a true inspiration to many people around the world.
Nothing wrong with what you did, the conditions were a little on the heavier side. There is always another day for wild camping.I've never tried wild camping myself but watching your videos is making me want to try it out! Keep up the great content.
Myself and two others just been to lakes for 2 nights wild camp around Hewswater but unfortunately we had to bale at 2am after the winds battered out tents and we night hiked to a local hotel and came home to realise the winds was between 60-80 mph we was also disappointed as we think we have some of the best gear on the market and thought we could cope with this but when the winds are that strong it's just too dangerous... It's good to be smart and able to know when to bale out! Happy Camping!!
Think you did the right thing, trust what your body tells you, why would you want to be miserable in the cold, you are a tough young lady, that walk was long enough on its own especially with a heavy backpack.
Ha! Not a “failed wild camp” ... an inspiring hike in awesome surroundings. Living in Essex, we have some truly atmospheric corners, but we lack the scale of mysterious hills, valleys and peaks of your part of the country. Thanks for taking us along, revealing some of the breathtaking secrets of your neighbourhood and confiding the feels of changing a plan. Just like my sport .. sailing .. sometimes turning round seems like ‘failure’, but there are other days when I know I should have turned round and wished I had. That feels far worse! 💯🤛🏽
I did this with a 7 day backpacking trip on Kungsleden in northern Sweden this past summer. I got one day in to Kebnekaise and just wasn't feeling it and was dreading the next 6 days. So I spent the next day enjoying the area, took a helicopter back to civilization, rebooked all my flights and spent a couple of days in Stockholm and flew home. I feel some regret, but with the way I was feeling I think it was the right call. As others have said, listen to that inner voice.
Really enjoyed this video Athena and the reflection at the end which is a very sensible thing to do. Personally I think you hit the nail on the head when you said something like 'I was just tired'. You say your thoughts on staying or going were conflicting so sounds like you had a bit of woolly thinking there which is as we know a classic symptom of being tired. As is the yearning for a warm bed which was not available in the tent option! Having been tired while out and about many times I find your body tries to take over and get you to a safe place and so cutting a journey short seems very desirable. That's all that happened really imho and it's an important self-protection mechanism to be fair as when you are tired you can make mistakes and are vulnerable to the cold. Perhaps if you had taken the last 15mins to your camp spot a bit easier and had a bit to eat while sauntering along you'd have arrived with more energy and perhaps could have with a clearer mind identified a good spot and had the umph to get the tent out! Or a hot drink as soon as you arrive? Worth a try for next time maybe, take care.
You have certainly got nothing to feel guilty about. You are an inspiration to me and I'm sure to many people. When I'm feeling a bit lazy I watch some of your blogs aand it inspires me to get out and do something.
Hello Athena, greetings from Northern California. I just came across your channel this evening. The very best to you in your outdoor adventures during this New Year. Take care, be safe and always have fun. 🤗
Great vid, thanks for sharing. i think we all get caught up, in what other people think of whats right and whats wrong ,and we shouldn't. only you know whats best for yourself at the time. the walk and the camp spot will still be there for another day.
that was a tough hike in awful conditions, and you knew it would be a rough night, damp and windy, i camped at Back Tor last Jan, nice conditions makes a big difference.
Brand new to this channel, as it was a suggestion on my homepage, really glad I watched, extremely relaxing. I was born in the UK but grew up in the US, I love hiking and the outdoors, but don't get to do it much, and I've never gotten to see very much of this side of this country, as I've only been there a couple times as a kid. Thank you for this content. I'm subscribed.
We've definitely bailed before too! Sometimes it's just not meant to be. We were once wild camping in Wales and a group of people came lamping on the hill, we ended up hidden in a dip for an hour terrified then packed up, hiked 2 hours back to the car and "slept" in that for the rest of the night!
Hi, I did that walk a “few” years ago and loved it, sure you wouldn’t want to wake up and find the tents up Sheffield somewhere. When I was up the top looking down military aircraft passed over the Res. so unusual looking down on top of flying aircraft 😲 . Enjoy all your videos 😊
Hey Athena. Wendy of ‘Jack Wendy and Buddy fame’ here :) Whatever decisions your make, to turn back or not are always the correct decision for you at that time. Once the anxiety has lifted and you’re back home, it’s easily to second guess. But you only feel like that as you listened to your body. Love your videos. Kisses from Buddy!
Watching this I get the feeling it was mostly the weather conditions that swayed your decision not to camp overnight. Nothing wrong at all with changing your mind, the hills will still be there tomorrow. I personally think the whole wildcamp experience is most enjoyable in good weather, having experienced both good & bad in Scotland in both tent & bothy. Stay safe, Athena & I love your videos - my favourite was you & Amira in the Cairngorms - my favourite area.
Thanks so much for going to Alport Castles. It does look like such an atmospheric place (whatever the weather). Anothet great video showing off the amazing countryside of the Peak District. I can't wait to get back up there. Chrome Hill would be another great one to film if you have not already done so. The pub in Crowdicote is always worth a visit afterwards too! Thanks for the videos they really are an inspiration.
Don’t regret it flower, it’s always going to be there for another day, the important thing is you need to feel comfortable with what your doing and where you are and this time it wasn’t the day you felt entirely comfortable as you say but great your out there 💪👍👍
Thanks for another interesting video ! Beautiful countryside. Don't beat yourself up over your choices. You always have to have a 'Plan B'. On the other hand you could have left the hilltop and camped down out of the wind, the new plan B. But then again some of my most memorable camping has been 'surviving' mountaintop storms. As I am writing this a huge storm front has just gone through with all the weather alerts and even a couple local tornadoes. Now it's gone and things are looking up, so 'clean' after the storm. And the tornado missed. Thanks again for the video.
Really don't blame you! I went to Bamford Edge on Saturday for my first ever wild camp and it was so windy at the top. Could hardly walk in it. Luckily found shelter in a small quarry up there 30mins before it went dark. Was a great experience though.
Did the same thing yesterday.. had all my camping gear with me and did not camp in the end because of the wind. Did have a look around though and found some good spots for the future :) Enjoying your videos 🌷
You had a great day out, you carried a heavy bag, the conditions were somewhat challanging, you did it all on your own, you went to quite a bit of effort to film interesting clips AND you made a lovely film which bought us all along with you....IMO you have done very wll. Thank you.
I was once on the trail in a desolate land for 2 weeks and I've decided to stop when I finally came to a town, I was still wild camping as you call it, because I like it far better than sleeping in some hostel/motel , but because of circumstances surrounding my preparation for the hike, I didn't have all the equipment I wanted and I walked with some bitter feelings about it not being the same as the first time, I was beginning to question why I was hiking, because that adventure didn't pan out to be like I was hoping , So after 2 weeks I hitched a ride back to civilization and I regretted doing that almost instantly. Was camping in arranged camping spots for a bit until I arrived at a different area where I could go wild camping again. Overall even though I was still hiking the rest rest of the week after, I kind of regret calling quits like that, especially since I hit it off with a nice nerdy bikepacker and I also regret not spending more time with her, all because by then I was already resolved to leave. There is always a next time and I would be better prepared. And like I tell some other people , consider yourself lucky that you can wild camp at all, because in my country I am only allowed to camp at arranged camping spots which kind of sucks. And since its a small country its very hard to find a place that is really secluded enough.
New to your channel. It’s wonderful, and I’m really enjoying your videos. Just to say, it’s always totally ok to decide to change your plans if that’s what you need to do to look after yourself. 😊
I sometimes bailed on my plans when I was still in the house... Mostly because of overthinking possible discomfort. I am a big fan of good weather lol. But once I'm out, I am going for it, good or bad, no regrets. But then to have an option half way, like you had here... I can understand your position very well. Then think of this : When you do hikes of this sort, your body is probably ready for it. So it's mostly your mindset that can get in the way of plans. Instead of getting doubts right there, try to imagine the next day, after you camped and had another great day of hiking, how good it will make you feel. AND, then you still have a warm fire or a bath to look forward too. Win :D
I've been in the state of mind too. My last 'camp' I was dithering as to whether to get out of the car... I eventually set off got to where I wanted to camp and made 'excuses' that I couldn't find a flat pitch and decided to head back... I guess I didn't want to camp but found it strange because I had done the hard bit in getting there...
Great video...don't beat yourself up...plan for the best, be prepared for the worst...stay flexible on the trail and listen to yourself...if you don't, who will ?
I totally understand that, as someone who LOVES to hike (I’m from Manchester too btw!) and will be starting wild camping around the UK and parts of Europe this year, I can definitely understand why you chose to go back in this instance. It’s January! It’s cold and miserable. Although I hate chalking down experiences to weather and climate (you could still have an amazing hike in January, I definitely have before!) there are just times where you don’t want to, and that’s fine. Just as pushing yourself to do it would also be fine. It’s not like you ‘back out’ a lot, so we’re all allowed to every once in a while ;) And I’d be kicking myself for it too but ultimately these things happen and it’s okay. 😊
I have bailed on some overnight trips. I try to be true to my instincts. I can always go back out again. You did right! And you are teaching viewers right!
I've had that scenario before. I set up camp near Kinder Scout, I kept telling myself maybe I should just head back down due to the wind and get on the train. I didn't seeing as it took so long to get up there with a heavy bag and set up the tent. It was far to cold to sit outside for more than 10 minutes to take in the scenery so I was in my sleeping bag from around 7pm. By around 3 am I was so annoyed by the wind keeping me up (It literally felt like there were 4 grown men just pushing the tent around relentlessly) I packed up in the dark and started to walk across the moors and descend with only my headlight on which was pretty scary. I regret the camping but the creepy walk across the moors at that time was actually pretty cool. I saw a giant white rabbit that just stared at me for a while before running off. I boiled some water in the shelter at the train station and drank some tea and got the first train outta there in the morning haha.
No need to suffer out there...it’s meant to be enjoyable first and foremost. I can assure you that we’ve all been there when the weather has taken a turn for the worse or you’ve started to feel ill....don’t beat yourself up.👍🏻
I went out for a 20 mile trek and wildcamp myself down in dartmoor national park, I got 9 miles in and decides to call it a day. Weather was bot on my side either, and the dog wasnt happy. We cant do them all and gut instinct generally means something is off. Good effort 🤙👍
I really like your enthusiasm on your videos , and I don’t think you should berate yourself for not wanting to spend a night on a cold wet hill 😀 thanks so much for taking us along with you.
Nice views, great looking tors and heather. Love your choice of music for your videos. I do think you should always trust your instincts though. Whether it be about places, or people. The tors will still be there tomorrow. Forcing the pace is probably the cause of your leg aching, especially if you are carrying a heavy pack. Any fool can spend an uncomfortable night on a windy, desolate hillside with little, or no cover. I think you made a sensible decision, with the added bonus of knowing what shelter is available, at that location, for your next visit.
Steven Keery thanks Steven, you are so right 🙏🏼 as you said, I think I was pushing the pace with my pack and hurt the tendons on the knee. Luckily it’s fine now 😊
Given the option... I’ll always choose pub food / warmth / my own bed! 😂 I think it’s a different matter with through-hikes though... I’m planning on walking the Coast to Coast this year, and I know once I’m on the trail... that’ll be it, no other options. Most of my day hikes generally end up with camping at a site, staying at a B&B, or going home... so don’t beat yourself up with this one. Great channel btw Athena! 👍
Hi Athena, only recently found your channel, but love following your walks and camps. I especially like the way that you share the map routes & navigation with us, it helps me relate to what you are doing that day. Sharing your feelings with us at the end was special and brave - as many have said, we do this for fun, so there's absolutely nothing wrong with changing your mind. Just a thought - you sometimes walk with a partner (Harvey or a girl friend) and I wonder if the fact that you were alone this time this influenced how you felt? Anyway, the pub, log fire and cup of tea looked great - it would probably have been my choice too. Looking forward to your next outing!
Agree with all the other comments encouraging you not to feel bad about heading for a cosy pub instead of camping out. Love your channel, and the hike. There will be other times (hopefully plenty of them) when you can camp. Always important to listen to your body, hiking isn’t supposed to be a chore.....if it becomes that, then the magic will disappear 😃
Great video and reflection at the end. You should always do what you enjoy and definitely not feel guilty for changing your plans. Very often I wake up early to go out and do some photography and would quite happily stay in bed (shhhh, sometimes I do but don’t tell). Cheers Keith
Hey, never underestimate the value of comfort (pub with fireplace, etc.), particularly when you've done your miles for the day! Feels like a good choice to me.
The pub is a wise choice. Just wondering how much weight that you are carrying in the rucksac?Are you traing for a particular event-Tony Q
Everybody has a down day when they just can't be bothered, and it's not like you hadn't already pushed yourself hard with the kit and then the disappointment of having to re-track. Don't beat yourself up about it, you are an inspiration to us newbie scramblers! Thank you for all that you do to encourage us to get out there.
I love how open and honest you were in this video, this was such a helpful lesson to me and I’m so glad you shared. What a challenging decision, when 30 minutes away is a warm pub! I love watching your videos from the US!
England looks so lovely. There's something beautiful about that land.
If you consider wet and windy as lovely you'd love it here!
Done the same many times there’s nothing wrong with rethinking your plan
it’s not a challenge it’s about enjoyment
Always go with your gut feeling there’s always another day
You had a nice day out improving your nav 👍 😀🐾
One Man and His Whippet improved my nav and got some training in hiking with weight! 😊 Dog walk tomorrow!
Hey we have all been their Athena, sometimes plans don't go right or we just don't feel in the mood. Like a lot of people will say its about having fun and enjoying the day, its not about UA-cam or the quality of video for others to see. I have walked the route you took many a time in all weathers, it can be hard work especially with a heavy pack. The body is not a machine and we have to listen to it when it says 'nope not today'. You videos are always quality and you hike and trek most places in all weather so you have nothing to prove to anyone or yourself. Take care, atb Bill.
K9 Outdoors thanks so much Bill, really appreciate your words 😊😊
Don’t beat yourself up, the hills will wait for you. I suffer with anxiety and have turned back many times on a planned bike packing trip because my head wasn’t right
James Hounslow agreed 🙏🏼🙏🏼
It’s a bummer when it strikes in the middle. You end up taking just in case stuff with you for then on. You have to have it to understand how debilitating it is.
I wouldn't be too hard on yourself. Sometimes the stars just align against us, whether it be general mood, weather, fatigue and of course the long winter nights, or more likely a combination of them all. I know lots of people love winter wild camping but give me April and May overnighters any day. The nights are shorter, the weather is typically half-decent and the skylarks and meadow pipits are back on the moors. I did my first ever winter wild camp a fortnight ago and although I was comfortable, it was a long night!
Thanks Chris, agree about winter wildcamping! They can be really rewarding, but the nights are long and you have to be in the right frame of mind... I think I just wasn't on this occasion. Thanks for your comment and support :)
Regrets don't work,just look forward to the next trip -and enjoy x
I love your videos they're so therapeutic
That's so nice to hear!
Yea thats a great way to put it. Weird in NYC i get a cup of coffee and just walk and watch its my therapy. And these videos with the scenery and music i can do it from my chair!
Hi Athena. Found your channel last week & I must say I think it is fantastic. As for not camping I think you made the correct call. It's never easy to turn back but as I found out on Galtymore a few weeks ago you must listen to mother nature. We had young children hiking with us but decided to turn back less then 1K from the summit as it was just too windy & the children were no longer enjoying it. The mountains will always be there. Keep up the good work.
Always good to catch up. I think going with your gut feeling is the first thing to follow. Although in hindsight you were trying to give reasons to camp, it made more sense to come down and self care. It’s not a failure, your being human, that makes your channel authentic unlike some. X
Thanks Paul, that's really nice of you to say. I always want to be open and honest, because adventures are definitely not always perfect!
Glad you made this video! I've been in this situation plenty of times before! Most recently on a trip to Scotland last week where I ended up in a hotel. Whilst being in the hotel was nice, it wasn't the 'adventurous' trip I originally planned! I think we just have to remind ourselves how amazing we feel after being adventurous and camping etc!
One of the things I've learned in life, is that if it's work you generally have to do it. If it's fun, you don't have to knock yourself out if you change your plans.
I like going beach fishing, i have all the kit i need to keep comfortable, warm and dry. But sometimes with all the right intentions i just change my mind and cut it short. If you let it become a chore it takes the fun out of it. Sometimes it just isn't the right time.
Anyways, lovely video as usual, all the best Steve.
You should not feel bad about bailing AT ALL! Always follow your instincts.
I once camped up in the lake district and set off to climb a peak with full kit, being used to hiking in South African mountains where we always hike and camp out. Little did I realise that most sensible people camp in the valley and do the peak as a day outing! It was getting late as I neared the summit and some people passing joked with me, as I was setting up my tent, that I was in for a wild night. I was blissfully unaware that a full blow was approaching. I had an awful night as the storm did its best to tear my tent apart, the boulder (only shelter) I was perched behind doing little to break the force of the wind. The banging of the canvas was so loud I did not sleep a wink. The next day it was pouring so my objective of solo climbing a rock outcrop went out the window. I ended up hiking down the back of the peak to the nearest farm (completely out of my way!) I then spent three days pinned inside a one man tunnel tent (max claustrophobia!!) as the rain bucketed down incessantly. By then I had had enough and decided to hike out to the nearest town to catch a bus back to the Lake district proper. 13 miles of slogging on tar roads ensued with my hopeful hitch-hiking thumb being stolidly ignored by passing locals. I popped into a pub for directions and was stunned by the offhand and snooty attitude of the people there who did not give me the time of day (I guess I stank a bit by then!). Eventually with a mile and a bit to go I slumped on the verge of the road to rest - only to sit down firmly (I had my pack on) on a patch of stinging nettles! Ow!!! I leapt up and marched the remaining distance to civilisation.
All in all it was horrible trip lifted only by the sheer beauty of the Lake district. It was a good lesson in knowing when to bail, when it just best to abandon your objectives and do the sensible thing. And yes, I have since spent more miserable nights up in the hills when I was unable to convince climbing partners that the weather simply wasn't right - pushing to climb a multi-pitch, hard project can blind people to sensibility when everyone has little time available to get out there and make progress on the climb. As a last note of warning a friend died when they were approaching a climb along a trick ledge with slippery grass after rain. We spoke to them on the phone moments before the accident, I had a strong premonition that they shouldn't proceed until things had dried up - unfortunately they did not listen to my protestation and advice to wait. So - never let your ambitions over-rule your common sense and instinctual feelings about the situation. Stay safe so that we can enjoy more of your wonderful videos!
Thank you for this. I’m so sorry about your friend but I wholeheartedly agree with your message about turning back when your instincts tell you to.
Hi Athena,
Great video and enjoyed your honest reflections. I felt for you and know that feeling of being ‘paralysed by indecision’ - it’s a bugger when it happens! When faced with such a situation, I fast forward the film - so to speak, and try to ask myself ‘Will I regret taking the decision I am about to make?’ - if yes, then re-think. However, listening to my heart versus my head can be a complicated matter especially when cold and tired. You did great.
RexMaximusOK thanks Rex 😊
An enjoyable hike. I made it up to Alport Castles in the heatwave of July and it was refreshing to see the area in a different atmosphere. I watch a lot of people who are in to wild camping at this time of year and they often complain about spending "14 hours in a tent" and feeling cold throughout the night... I wholeheartedly respect your choices! ;-) I think it's important to do what's right for you and not so much what may/may not benefit your channel, if that makes sense.
Walks With Olly winter wildcamping is definitely not easy! Especially when solo. I’d like to do a few more but definitely have to be in the right frame of mind 🙏🏼
Another great video Athena. Really enjoy your honest and down to earth approach, your candid chats to camera and your adventurous, positive but humanly fallible spirit.
Hi, have had the same moments. Actually right now laying in bed, instead of in a tent in the forest in Finland (too windy and just about plus degrees, so wet...). So I know how you feel. But you need these moments, so next time when it happens you are more determine to stay (and loving it afterwards). Just found your channel last week, and I really like it, since I am doing similar hikes in the Nordics. So keep it going 😊👍
Thanks! I REALLYY want to visit Finland 😃😃
Athena that was a cracking wet, windy and wild day out on the hill. Thanks for taking us along. I like the fact you show us your route on the map as you progress along the trail. Even more thanks for dragging us into that nice pub and sitting us in front of the fire.....you earned it but we didn't. Hope to see lots more of your adventures and never feel the need to apologise...!!!
Hate it when I can't make a decision like that, feels like no matter what you do it'll be the wrong decision which makes the indecision worse!
Elfwald so hard to make decisions when solo hiking and camping sometimes! But good practise for the future 🙏🏼
Hello Athena
Please don,t beat yourself up about changing your plans,as we have all been there,you have not let yourself or us down as we really appreciate your honesty many thanks
Absolutely wonderful hiking thank you for taking us along... lovely to share the epilogue too...
Thank you for watching :)
Hi Athena ! You clearly do not take the path of least resistance, you completed the hike. You simply made a good decision. Like everyone else has said, listen to your gut. That said, it is as much a case of all the little issues add up to outweigh camping. The best thing is you highlighted it in the video and did not hide the fact. You are being real to yourself and to you viewers. Great job.
Hello Athena. You may of changed your wild camping plans, but you still managed a awesome hike. As with all your video's.. there a joy to watch, well documented and well edited. Keep up the fantastic work Athena and good luck on your next adventure.
Totally nothing wrong with that. Sometimes you can feel “just not up for it” despite the best intentions. Never have any regrets, the hills will be there next time, and they are no place for pride or pushing an uncomfortable position ... whatever the conditions. Good choice - pub, dinner, home, bath. Nice one.
As a new hiker this past year (196.4 miles) it's helpful for me to see that sometimes you just need to trust your gut and call it a day. I recently found your channel and am really enjoying it. I have not doubt I'm going to learn a lot from your videos and hike way past 200 miles in 2020.
Your videos are so therapeutic. ✨ Thank you for sharing your adventures with us. You've inspired me to get back on the trails. Love your channel from Tennessee. ♥️
Heather Rigsby so great to hear 😊🙏🏼
Been there a fews time before. The beauty of the outdoors is having the freedom to choose. Going prepared is the key even if it's to turn back or not stay. You got a got a great hike in and what's not to like about that. Ramble on. :)
How do Athena,I think your great for showing realty of wild camping.People get in real trouble letting pride and ego getting in way of good decisions.
You looked very cold and would have spent all night trying to warm up.I have stayed out many times in brutal conditions because of ego and I'd love to say
To my youngself that's it ok to kick back down and enjoy some pub grub and nice cup of tea.As I said thank for showing the reality of wild camping.Be kind to
Yourself .
Paul Farrell thanks so much Paul 🙏🏼
It is so hard to know sometimes if that cheeky inner voice is right, but in the end it is most important to go with your gut. You'll camp the next time, or maybe you wont and that's okay too. I feel have the feeling that I am not being hardcore enough a lot but how lucky are we to get to choose if we want a nice cozy pup dinner or a night in the cold. So much easier said than done but no need to guilt, you are totally cool. Thanks for the videos!
I’ve had times like this as well & there’s no need to feel guilty about it. I’ve learned to trust my gut when it comes to whatever I’m feeling & I know that I’m doing what’s best for me (I hike solo 95% of the time.) The mountains will always be there waiting 😊.
I totally get it about the sleepless night with the wind Athena and I subscribe to having a cracking walk with a full pack on my back with a warm fire and some real ale after. We cycled over to a classic cycling cafe in The Yorkshire Dales yesterday where they had a proper log fire on the go with a proper pot of tea. Ace !. It might take a bit of editing to tell the story but like you I always try to capture the moments the best I can.
This video was real and honest , thank you. All too often we only show our successes and talk about the fun we had, when sometimes we change our minds or just don't feel our best. Plan do change and so do conditions. Cheers and again thank you for being real.
Don't beat yourself up about it! A cosy pub is a great reward for a hike well done! Keep the vids coming!
The Man of Yorke thanks!
I completely understand the dilemma of deciding to stay out or go for comfort. It is especially hard when you are uncomfortable and you have in your mind that you can easily get out to comfort. I’ve done it before and also felt bad about it and wished I hadn’t. However I have also bailed and been very happy about it. Just two weeks ago I was winter camping in the backcountry for three nights and cut it short by one night due to a forecast of heavy rain and freezing rain. In that case, while I would have liked to stay out, I think I made the right choice.
Great video btw.
Hi Athena, nothing wrong with going with your gut feeling.. I've bailed on camping before, and quit my ''thru hike'' of the Southern Upland Way in Scotland because of the mental game not being there at that point. Theres regret somewhere deep inside, but in the end you're always out to have a good time, not having to push yourself too much.
I came across your channel for the first time this weekend and I have binge watched your videos on the way home from work on the train since then. Thank you for making a boring commute 100% more interesting and I look forward to your future content :)
Just found your channel and I’m so glad I did.
Love your content. It’s so raw, real, and honestly inspiring.
Safe travels!
GoneNomadic _ thank you 🙏🏼
Hi Athena, I did the same thing back in late July. I started the Pennine Way with 4 days available. After taking a wrong turn which resulted in burning myself out going up to Crowden Tower via Crowden Brook I just bailed and came back to Somerset that same evening. I'm still kicking myself for not spending time to recover then continuing on my walk.
No regrets, the hike was worth the outing! Listen to your inner-voice and be safe; you’ll have another go at it now that you are aware of the surroundings. Thanks for sharing!
Hi Athena, just finished watching your hike, my god the weather was not kind at all. I listened intently to your explanation of why you did not pitch your tent and camp out. I think you are being a little hard on yourself, you are a experienced walker and have camped in harsher areas, with probably worse weather but on this occasion you decided to come off the mountain. There is nothing to be upset about, you did what you thought was right for you at that moment in time. You are the one on the ground, getting battered by the elements therefore you have to make sure that you are safe and well. I can’t count how many times that has happened to me lol our saving grace is that we still enjoy what we do and no doubt will put ourselves into the same situations and each time we will do something different. In closing please don’t be so hard on yourself, you entertained us and gave us lots of stunning views to to wet our appetite for what to come. Take care and be safe 👍
Really enjoyed the video and your honest reflection rather than hiding the 'failed camp', hope you didn't dwell on it for too long!
I've basically watched all of your videos over the last few weeks it's rekindled some of my lost passion for the things I love (hike/bike/boulder), especially hiking in the Peak District as it's only an hours drive. Please let us know if there are ways to support such as donations or Patreon :)
leanne182x thank you Leanne, that’s so kind of you 🙏🏼 I actually set up a Patreon recently but am still ‘perfecting it’ and making sure what I offer is worth it for you and doable for me. I will promote it soon and would be so appreciative of anything you can give. Thank you 🙏🏼
@@RambleFamily Lovely, glad to hear it! Look forward to that and your future videos 😊
@@RambleFamily I would rather help through PayPal. Don't like what Patreon has done in the past.
so many excuses - so relate-able ! There are many reasons not to do something, and many to do it. I recently read somewhere that we could benefit from doing things simply because we want to. So we go and camp on a hill, because we want to. Not actually camp when we get there, because we want to go back (or to the pub). Cutting a two night trip to a one day trip, because we want to. There doesn't need to be a reason for stopping, even more so on a solo trip. You definitely don't need to justify your decisions to anyone else, not even yourself. Life is for living in the moment and enjoying each one of those moments
Another great video, Athena. Great to see your channel doing so well.
Floating Our Boat thanks so much for the support 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Beautiful scenery. Thanks for sharing
I'm not as seasoned a walker as you but I cancelled a walk some weeks back on a small mountain in Wales as there was sideways sleet and strong winds sweeping in - I got some grief from one or two people for cancelling. Like you, I'm not easily put off, but trust my gut if it doesn't feel right. Too bad if others see it as backing out. You inspire me.
Just wanna start off by saying that you've inspired me to start my 2020 with hiking again, it's been almost a year since I've been out. So, this past Friday and Saturday (10/11 JAN) I went to Peak District to head up on Kinder Scout and Padley Gorge, inspired by the video you made BTW. You're a true ambassador to UK wilderness. I think that you hit the spot on having the comfort of having someone pick you up if you don't want to deal with certain things. I absolutely love the rain I've pitched my tent in the rain, snow, and a calm cold day, but honestly when the wind comes into factor I rather call it a day. I wouldn't be surprised if the wind was your one true factor for calling it a day too. Thank you for creating your videos, they're great and a true inspiration to many people around the world.
Nothing wrong with what you did, the conditions were a little on the heavier side. There is always another day for wild camping.I've never tried wild camping myself but watching your videos is making me want to try it out! Keep up the great content.
Thumbs up for admitting you took the easier option. I often do the same and it's something I'm trying to change!
Myself and two others just been to lakes for 2 nights wild camp around Hewswater but unfortunately we had to bale at 2am after the winds battered out tents and we night hiked to a local hotel and came home to realise the winds was between 60-80 mph we was also disappointed as we think we have some of the best gear on the market and thought we could cope with this but when the winds are that strong it's just too dangerous...
It's good to be smart and able to know when to bale out!
Happy Camping!!
Think you did the right thing, trust what your body tells you, why would you want to be miserable in the cold, you are a tough young lady, that walk was long enough on its own especially with a heavy backpack.
Ha! Not a “failed wild camp” ... an inspiring hike in awesome surroundings. Living in Essex, we have some truly atmospheric corners, but we lack the scale of mysterious hills, valleys and peaks of your part of the country. Thanks for taking us along, revealing some of the breathtaking secrets of your neighbourhood and confiding the feels of changing a plan. Just like my sport .. sailing .. sometimes turning round seems like ‘failure’, but there are other days when I know I should have turned round and wished I had. That feels far worse! 💯🤛🏽
I did this with a 7 day backpacking trip on Kungsleden in northern Sweden this past summer. I got one day in to Kebnekaise and just wasn't feeling it and was dreading the next 6 days. So I spent the next day enjoying the area, took a helicopter back to civilization, rebooked all my flights and spent a couple of days in Stockholm and flew home. I feel some regret, but with the way I was feeling I think it was the right call. As others have said, listen to that inner voice.
Really enjoyed this video Athena and the reflection at the end which is a very sensible thing to do. Personally I think you hit the nail on the head when you said something like 'I was just tired'. You say your thoughts on staying or going were conflicting so sounds like you had a bit of woolly thinking there which is as we know a classic symptom of being tired. As is the yearning for a warm bed which was not available in the tent option! Having been tired while out and about many times I find your body tries to take over and get you to a safe place and so cutting a journey short seems very desirable. That's all that happened really imho and it's an important self-protection mechanism to be fair as when you are tired you can make mistakes and are vulnerable to the cold. Perhaps if you had taken the last 15mins to your camp spot a bit easier and had a bit to eat while sauntering along you'd have arrived with more energy and perhaps could have with a clearer mind identified a good spot and had the umph to get the tent out! Or a hot drink as soon as you arrive? Worth a try for next time maybe, take care.
Thank you for sharing. I have also had those inner struggles. It is good to know I am not the only one.
You have certainly got nothing to feel guilty about. You are an inspiration to me and I'm sure to many people. When I'm feeling a bit lazy I watch some of your blogs aand it inspires me to get out and do something.
Hello Athena, greetings from Northern California. I just came across your channel this evening. The very best to you in your outdoor adventures during this New Year. Take care, be safe and always have fun. 🤗
Great vid, thanks for sharing. i think we all get caught up, in what other people think of whats right and whats wrong ,and we shouldn't. only you know whats best for yourself at the time. the walk and the camp spot will still be there for another day.
that was a tough hike in awful conditions, and you knew it would be a rough night, damp and windy, i camped at Back Tor last Jan, nice conditions makes a big difference.
Dude put this in perspective its January! Plan B deffo the best option. What is the point if it's not enjoyable anymore x
Love this channel
Thank you so much :)
I needed to hear that. Thank you so much!
Liked the chapters music last week on kinder scout, you always find great music every time👍
Brand new to this channel, as it was a suggestion on my homepage, really glad I watched, extremely relaxing. I was born in the UK but grew up in the US, I love hiking and the outdoors, but don't get to do it much, and I've never gotten to see very much of this side of this country, as I've only been there a couple times as a kid. Thank you for this content. I'm subscribed.
Bless you Athena, love your content and your honesty in this is refreshing. Shows that no one is superhuman.
We've definitely bailed before too! Sometimes it's just not meant to be. We were once wild camping in Wales and a group of people came lamping on the hill, we ended up hidden in a dip for an hour terrified then packed up, hiked 2 hours back to the car and "slept" in that for the rest of the night!
Hi, I did that walk a “few” years ago and loved it, sure you wouldn’t want to wake up and find the tents up Sheffield somewhere. When I was up the top looking down military aircraft passed over the Res. so unusual looking down on top of flying aircraft 😲 . Enjoy all your videos 😊
Hey Athena. Wendy of ‘Jack Wendy and Buddy fame’ here :) Whatever decisions your make, to turn back or not are always the correct decision for you at that time. Once the anxiety has lifted and you’re back home, it’s easily to second guess. But you only feel like that as you listened to your body. Love your videos. Kisses from Buddy!
Watching this I get the feeling it was mostly the weather conditions that swayed your decision not to camp overnight. Nothing wrong at all with changing your mind, the hills will still be there tomorrow. I personally think the whole wildcamp experience is most enjoyable in good weather, having experienced both good & bad in Scotland in both tent & bothy. Stay safe, Athena & I love your videos - my favourite was you & Amira in the Cairngorms - my favourite area.
Thanks so much for going to Alport Castles. It does look like such an atmospheric place (whatever the weather). Anothet great video showing off the amazing countryside of the Peak District. I can't wait to get back up there. Chrome Hill would be another great one to film if you have not already done so. The pub in Crowdicote is always worth a visit afterwards too!
Thanks for the videos they really are an inspiration.
Don’t regret it flower, it’s always going to be there for another day, the important thing is you need to feel comfortable with what your doing and where you are and this time it wasn’t the day you felt entirely comfortable as you say but great your out there 💪👍👍
I’m inexperienced at map reading, so I really appreciate your honesty 😁
nice views on hike and nice music for the video. it's always good to have a plan B
Thanks for another interesting video ! Beautiful countryside.
Don't beat yourself up over your choices. You always have to have a 'Plan B'. On the other hand you could have left the hilltop and camped down out of the wind, the new plan B. But then again some of my most memorable camping has been 'surviving' mountaintop storms.
As I am writing this a huge storm front has just gone through with all the weather alerts and even a couple local tornadoes. Now it's gone and things are looking up, so 'clean' after the storm. And the tornado missed.
Thanks again for the video.
Really don't blame you! I went to Bamford Edge on Saturday for my first ever wild camp and it was so windy at the top. Could hardly walk in it. Luckily found shelter in a small quarry up there 30mins before it went dark. Was a great experience though.
You didn't feel well and it would have been a miserable night. You made the right decision. I really enjoy your videos!
Did the same thing yesterday.. had all my camping gear with me and did not camp in the end because of the wind. Did have a look around though and found some good spots for the future :)
Enjoying your videos 🌷
You had a great day out, you carried a heavy bag, the conditions were somewhat challanging, you did it all on your own, you went to quite a bit of effort to film interesting clips AND you made a lovely film which bought us all along with you....IMO you have done very wll. Thank you.
I was once on the trail in a desolate land for 2 weeks and I've decided to stop when I finally came to a town, I was still wild camping as you call it, because I like it far better than sleeping in some hostel/motel , but because of circumstances surrounding my preparation for the hike, I didn't have all the equipment I wanted and I walked with some bitter feelings about it not being the same as the first time, I was beginning to question why I was hiking, because that adventure didn't pan out to be like I was hoping , So after 2 weeks I hitched a ride back to civilization and I regretted doing that almost instantly. Was camping in arranged camping spots for a bit until I arrived at a different area where I could go wild camping again. Overall even though I was still hiking the rest rest of the week after, I kind of regret calling quits like that, especially since I hit it off with a nice nerdy bikepacker and I also regret not spending more time with her, all because by then I was already resolved to leave.
There is always a next time and I would be better prepared. And like I tell some other people , consider yourself lucky that you can wild camp at all, because in my country I am only allowed to camp at arranged camping spots which kind of sucks. And since its a small country its very hard to find a place that is really secluded enough.
New to your channel. It’s wonderful, and I’m really enjoying your videos. Just to say, it’s always totally ok to decide to change your plans if that’s what you need to do to look after yourself. 😊
Awesome scenery. I'd love that hike.
Sounds like a real relationship with the hills to me👍🏻 The hills will always be there for another day. Great and honest vid. Loved it.
P. S. I lost a brand new tent to 'Hurricane Bawbag' - know your pain.
I sometimes bailed on my plans when I was still in the house... Mostly because of overthinking possible discomfort. I am a big fan of good weather lol. But once I'm out, I am going for it, good or bad, no regrets.
But then to have an option half way, like you had here... I can understand your position very well. Then think of this : When you do hikes of this sort, your body is probably ready for it. So it's mostly your mindset that can get in the way of plans. Instead of getting doubts right there, try to imagine the next day, after you camped and had another great day of hiking, how good it will make you feel. AND, then you still have a warm fire or a bath to look forward too. Win :D
I've been in the state of mind too. My last 'camp' I was dithering as to whether to get out of the car... I eventually set off got to where I wanted to camp and made 'excuses' that I couldn't find a flat pitch and decided to head back... I guess I didn't want to camp but found it strange because I had done the hard bit in getting there...
Great video...don't beat yourself up...plan for the best, be prepared for the worst...stay flexible on the trail and listen to yourself...if you don't, who will ?
CHEER up. I enjoyed the trip. Would have liked to see more of the pub & the coffee.
I totally understand that, as someone who LOVES to hike (I’m from Manchester too btw!) and will be starting wild camping around the UK and parts of Europe this year, I can definitely understand why you chose to go back in this instance. It’s January! It’s cold and miserable. Although I hate chalking down experiences to weather and climate (you could still have an amazing hike in January, I definitely have before!) there are just times where you don’t want to, and that’s fine. Just as pushing yourself to do it would also be fine. It’s not like you ‘back out’ a lot, so we’re all allowed to every once in a while ;)
And I’d be kicking myself for it too but ultimately these things happen and it’s okay. 😊
I have bailed on some overnight trips. I try to be true to my instincts. I can always go back out again. You did right! And you are teaching viewers right!
I've had that scenario before. I set up camp near Kinder Scout, I kept telling myself maybe I should just head back down due to the wind and get on the train. I didn't seeing as it took so long to get up there with a heavy bag and set up the tent. It was far to cold to sit outside for more than 10 minutes to take in the scenery so I was in my sleeping bag from around 7pm. By around 3 am I was so annoyed by the wind keeping me up (It literally felt like there were 4 grown men just pushing the tent around relentlessly) I packed up in the dark and started to walk across the moors and descend with only my headlight on which was pretty scary. I regret the camping but the creepy walk across the moors at that time was actually pretty cool. I saw a giant white rabbit that just stared at me for a while before running off. I boiled some water in the shelter at the train station and drank some tea and got the first train outta there in the morning haha.
No need to suffer out there...it’s meant to be enjoyable first and foremost. I can assure you that we’ve all been there when the weather has taken a turn for the worse or you’ve started to feel ill....don’t beat yourself up.👍🏻
Really looking forward to Compass / Nav / GPS story. Love the way you bring skills together for a great adventure! Jules, Adelaide, Australia
Thanks for your video , very calming and centering
I went out for a 20 mile trek and wildcamp myself down in dartmoor national park, I got 9 miles in and decides to call it a day. Weather was bot on my side either, and the dog wasnt happy. We cant do them all and gut instinct generally means something is off. Good effort 🤙👍
I really like your enthusiasm on your videos , and I don’t think you should berate yourself for not wanting to spend a night on a cold wet hill 😀 thanks so much for taking us along with you.
Nice views, great looking tors and heather. Love your choice of music for your videos.
I do think you should always trust your instincts though. Whether it be about places, or people. The tors will still be there tomorrow.
Forcing the pace is probably the cause of your leg aching, especially if you are carrying a heavy pack. Any fool can spend an uncomfortable night on a windy, desolate hillside with little, or no cover.
I think you made a sensible decision, with the added bonus of knowing what shelter is available, at that location, for your next visit.
Steven Keery thanks Steven, you are so right 🙏🏼 as you said, I think I was pushing the pace with my pack and hurt the tendons on the knee. Luckily it’s fine now 😊
Given the option... I’ll always choose pub food / warmth / my own bed! 😂 I think it’s a different matter with through-hikes though... I’m planning on walking the Coast to Coast this year, and I know once I’m on the trail... that’ll be it, no other options. Most of my day hikes generally end up with camping at a site, staying at a B&B, or going home... so don’t beat yourself up with this one. Great channel btw Athena! 👍
Hi Athena, only recently found your channel, but love following your walks and camps. I especially like the way that you share the map routes & navigation with us, it helps me relate to what you are doing that day. Sharing your feelings with us at the end was special and brave - as many have said, we do this for fun, so there's absolutely nothing wrong with changing your mind. Just a thought - you sometimes walk with a partner (Harvey or a girl friend) and I wonder if the fact that you were alone this time this influenced how you felt? Anyway, the pub, log fire and cup of tea looked great - it would probably have been my choice too. Looking forward to your next outing!
Agree with all the other comments encouraging you not to feel bad about heading for a cosy pub instead of camping out. Love your channel, and the hike. There will be other times (hopefully plenty of them) when you can camp. Always important to listen to your body, hiking isn’t supposed to be a chore.....if it becomes that, then the magic will disappear 😃
Great video and reflection at the end. You should always do what you enjoy and definitely not feel guilty for changing your plans. Very often I wake up early to go out and do some photography and would quite happily stay in bed (shhhh, sometimes I do but don’t tell). Cheers Keith