An absolute showcase of House Liao's dedication to preserving the integrity of the state by any means possible. Not always the smartest led nation (Wacky Max wasn't always in a good state of mind, and Romano was straight out of it at all times), but certainly dedicated. And it was under Maximilian's rule that both the Cataphract and Raven were born, complimenting the Vindicator's capabilities by supporting them with utility and greater firepower.
Hypothetically the Raven ECM was prioritized for development to counter the impact of a vehicle on the game. The Hi-Scout Drone Carrier and its drone the Path-tack and Nap-find. These drones where and still are effective in recon scenarios and objective hold and scanning. The idea of stealthing and other E-War options came up much latter as the 3050 seem to switch to an eggs in one basket approach and the reintroduction to NARC LRM’s to lower tech 3025 LRM Carriers that are plentiful in Lio stocks. I often consider the Raven to be more effective in pairs or “Murders” as the Raven is just a smart crow. What was wrong with the ECM from the old player’s stand-point and why the BT community calls it a failure. The range on the ECM sucked on the prototype ECM as those drones are fast as heck. FYI, sometimes the community feed back on BT ends up in the games lore.
Ghost Bear Alpha Galaxy salvaged a WoB "X" variant from a world that Phi gla- I mean reclaimed. Had one of their Null-Signature systems and our ferro ferro-fibrous armor. Weapons loadout was somewhere between the Raven 3L and II. Just bizarre. They passed it off to us and we modified it a little further. Apparently it was sent to Bergan's Ares branch as part of their security trinary.
The failure of the Raven project had an unexpected silver lining. While coreward the Raven did not do near enough to shift the balance of power, rimward access to such technology in a relatively cheap package made a huge difference. There was a special look of shock on House faces whenever they headed into our territory. Often thier OB is for overwhelming strength, an electronic war is the last thing they expect.
Critical Rocket did a virtual tabletop Solaris match with 3 of his guys and one of them ran the "Thunder Chicken". Raven with an AC20. It brawled to the very end against a Hunchback 4P and almost won. I think it did head cap a heavy mech right before the finale with the HBK. The dice was in his favor that day.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn it's not an opinion. We love professors en Tauria. Here we deal in two things: Fact and Lead. The lead is only because the rest of the galaxy fails to see reason.
I've always run a Raven in an indirect fire support lance spotting for either a Longbow, Archer, Catapult or Trebuchet my best lance with a Raven included a Catapult, Cataphract & Vindicator in a CCAF support lance
Like I said, "Officially". There were still things being built, but I think a lot of them were through corporate contracts and not state sponsored contracts. We also forget that by that point of the 3rd Succession War, even the other major powers were not building a whole lot of 'mechs either.
The Raven is a very cute light Mech and wish I had more chances to use it but to be honest it is not a very effective Mech design. It tries to do too many things at once and is good at non. For a light Mech it is not fast and it is very squishy. The weapon load is sufficient for self-defense but due to the slow speed and low armor the Mech is better of hiding behind cover while doing it´s EWAR things. The Narc Beacon is a waste of tonnage. The TAG and the ECM can be useful in certain situations but there are better platforms available today than the Raven.
I agree with almost everything here, outside the NARC. Depending on the situation, NARCs can be pretty useful, especially when using "Succession War" tech mechs as support. The Raven is fast enough and "disposable enough" to be a good NARC delivery platform.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn I have trouble getting behind the NARC. It seems much easier to get an ECM and AMS to build a anti missile platform, rather than a pro-missile platform, in this regard.
The Raven was a surprisingly solid light mech in MC2, and always had a home as a spotter or utility mech in my lances, especially when outfitted with a long range fire support loadout. It lasted well into the mid game as an EWAR/sniper unit until I replaced it with a Men Shen, and then later a Cyclops for the same purpose.
TAG allows you to guide Arrow IV artillery missiles, along with Semi-Guided LRM which are nasty things. NARC gives you a +2 to the number of missiles hitting a target per volley, which can give 1 to 4 more damage easily.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn my first mech model ^^ looks like one of the biggies but is soooo smol bean the 5d with the heavy ppc is quite intriguing and the least fragile one :)
Glory to the Capellan Confederation.
An absolute showcase of House Liao's dedication to preserving the integrity of the state by any means possible. Not always the smartest led nation (Wacky Max wasn't always in a good state of mind, and Romano was straight out of it at all times), but certainly dedicated. And it was under Maximilian's rule that both the Cataphract and Raven were born, complimenting the Vindicator's capabilities by supporting them with utility and greater firepower.
Hypothetically the Raven ECM was prioritized for development to counter the impact of a vehicle on the game. The Hi-Scout Drone Carrier and its drone the Path-tack and Nap-find. These drones where and still are effective in recon scenarios and objective hold and scanning. The idea of stealthing and other E-War options came up much latter as the 3050 seem to switch to an eggs in one basket approach and the reintroduction to NARC LRM’s to lower tech 3025 LRM Carriers that are plentiful in Lio stocks. I often consider the Raven to be more effective in pairs or “Murders” as the Raven is just a smart crow. What was wrong with the ECM from the old player’s stand-point and why the BT community calls it a failure. The range on the ECM sucked on the prototype ECM as those drones are fast as heck. FYI, sometimes the community feed back on BT ends up in the games lore.
Ghost Bear Alpha Galaxy salvaged a WoB "X" variant from a world that Phi gla- I mean reclaimed. Had one of their Null-Signature systems and our ferro ferro-fibrous armor. Weapons loadout was somewhere between the Raven 3L and II. Just bizarre. They passed it off to us and we modified it a little further. Apparently it was sent to Bergan's Ares branch as part of their security trinary.
Love me Raven.
Love me confederation.
Love me house Liao.
Simple as.
An interesting evolution, and a great way to introduce electronic warfare to the table. Can be amazingly annoying.
Nowadays EWAR really is required, but at the very start of the Raven life, it was an oddity for sure.
The failure of the Raven project had an unexpected silver lining. While coreward the Raven did not do near enough to shift the balance of power, rimward access to such technology in a relatively cheap package made a huge difference. There was a special look of shock on House faces whenever they headed into our territory. Often thier OB is for overwhelming strength, an electronic war is the last thing they expect.
Critical Rocket did a virtual tabletop Solaris match with 3 of his guys and one of them ran the "Thunder Chicken". Raven with an AC20. It brawled to the very end against a Hunchback 4P and almost won. I think it did head cap a heavy mech right before the finale with the HBK. The dice was in his favor that day.
@@Xenophon_Xanthippus I like CR's work. I'm a member of the discord, though the Professor's stuff is more my speed.
Thanks for the vote of confidence :)
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn it's not an opinion. We love professors en Tauria. Here we deal in two things: Fact and Lead. The lead is only because the rest of the galaxy fails to see reason.
My older brother runs a raven in MWO with an AC-20 named Lucy. Does ridiculously well with it.
Also, Wolfhound video when?
I do that too, but I called it Boomchicken.
I've always run a Raven in an indirect fire support lance spotting for either a Longbow, Archer, Catapult or Trebuchet my best lance with a Raven included a Catapult, Cataphract & Vindicator in a CCAF support lance
TAG and NARC make the Raven pretty awesome as a support unit for LRM carriers of all kind.
Sneaky Beaky
My beloved flightless bird.
The fact only 1 config has jump jets is criminal.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn perhaps the Penguin would have been a better name. N007X
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn i’d drop the srm for jump jets
I could have sworn the capellans at the very least where still making Griffins and Thunderbolts on Tikonov
Like I said, "Officially". There were still things being built, but I think a lot of them were through corporate contracts and not state sponsored contracts.
We also forget that by that point of the 3rd Succession War, even the other major powers were not building a whole lot of 'mechs either.
8:45 being a "walking explosion" is indeed better than nothing :)
Suicide machines are common in Battletech after all. Ask any Hetzer crew.
The Raven is a very cute light Mech and wish I had more chances to use it but to be honest it is not a very effective Mech design. It tries to do too many things at once and is good at non.
For a light Mech it is not fast and it is very squishy. The weapon load is sufficient for self-defense but due to the slow speed and low armor the Mech is better of hiding behind cover while doing it´s EWAR things. The Narc Beacon is a waste of tonnage. The TAG and the ECM can be useful in certain situations but there are better platforms available today than the Raven.
@@hermes7587 if you play BT 2018 the that's probably the best feeling Raven experience you'll find.
I agree with almost everything here, outside the NARC. Depending on the situation, NARCs can be pretty useful, especially when using "Succession War" tech mechs as support. The Raven is fast enough and "disposable enough" to be a good NARC delivery platform.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn I have trouble getting behind the NARC. It seems much easier to get an ECM and AMS to build a anti missile platform, rather than a pro-missile platform, in this regard.
Would you please list the songs you use in the openings of your videos?
I would need to make sure. This one is the new CCP military march which they commissioned a few years ago.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn What about the others?
The Raven was a surprisingly solid light mech in MC2, and always had a home as a spotter or utility mech in my lances, especially when outfitted with a long range fire support loadout. It lasted well into the mid game as an EWAR/sniper unit until I replaced it with a Men Shen, and then later a Cyclops for the same purpose.
MechCommander 2 was such a fun game, even though it wasn't a "perfect" rendition of tabletop.
What is the point of having TAG and NARC?
TAG allows you to guide Arrow IV artillery missiles, along with Semi-Guided LRM which are nasty things.
NARC gives you a +2 to the number of missiles hitting a target per volley, which can give 1 to 4 more damage easily.
so the 4x is basically the people´s osiris...
live, laugh, liao!
The Osiris is an odd duck, which I need to play around with more.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn my first mech model ^^
looks like one of the biggies but is soooo smol bean
the 5d with the heavy ppc is quite intriguing and the least fragile one :)