@@ShanWatchesMovies Well the guy who said it was terrible probably because it didn't have the John Wick movies action which I won't see because the puppy character gets killed and not off screen either which I am afraid of Damn the movie Dances With Wolves that did thisthat did that to me Sorry, one thing I didn't mention in my first loooong comment (sorry) is Stallone directed Rocky Balboa. His directing is so so different from Rocky 2 it looks more like John G. Avildsen directed this.
I SECOND THAT MOTION. Falling Down is genius hidden in plain sight. Just a deep but really fun ride, like if Taxi Driver had a sense of humor without the redemptive angle
This was supposed to be the final film, but the it ended on such a sour note that fans largely rejected it. Rocky, after everything he's fought through and risen above . . . winds up right back where he started at the beginning of the series. It just didn't land with people. And it took Stallone 15 years to realize a more satisfying conclusion to Rocky's in-ring career.
I love all the Rocky movies but it took Stallone 16 years to make Balboa because 5 was considered a failure and no one wanted him to make another one so all studios were basically rejecting him. It took Liongate known for taking risk for him to make it
Great reviews! Rocky Balboa is a really good movie. I think this is the worst of all the Rocky movies. The 4th was one of my favorites. RIP his son and Tommy M.
Tommy Gunn - played by Tommy Morrison (January 2, 1969 - September 1, 2013) was allegedly John Wayne's nephew. He had won 18 fights in the heavyweight division, intriguing Stallone to hire him for the film. Morrison later won the vacant championship in a fight against George Foreman.
Each sequel was meant to be the last movie. When Stallone was writing this he decided that this would be the last Rocky and it would be appropriate to go full circle. He wanted to put Rocky back to where he loved him. Back to Rocky's roots. I personally love this as the final film. Which it was for a very long time. When's the Stallone announced he was making another Rocky movie I wondered how he was going to make one without Talia Shire, who insisted that she was never ever coming back to the Rockies series.
One thing I've learnt in regards to the dislike towards this movie - There are 2 types of Rocky fans. There's the fighting fans, and then there are Rocky fans. THAT, is the difference.
People shit on this movie but I must say for me it's one of my favorite's in this franchise. I also love that it ended in a street fight. Tommy was younger bigger up and coming boxer and with Rockys age and health issues probably would have beaten him in a boxing match or even worse. Rocky is from the streets and it shows in this fight. By the way RIP Tommy Morrison the man had a nasty left hook.
Stallone took a lot .. in this from Mike Tyson's story . The whole thing with Duke stealing Tommy away from Rocky ! directly taken from Don King , stealing and brainwashing Mike Tyson away from Kevin Rooney , and Bill Cayton . And all the quotes from Mickey to Rocky , taken from interviews of Cus D'amato , when he was talking about Mike .
I personally rank this as my least favourite Rocky film. Even though Rocky IV was cheesy, it had the right amount that was too much or too little, and it being an '80s film, it can get away with such things, whereas Rocky V felt like a betrayal of everything Rocky did up that point. His wealth, success, and everything he did felt undone. The next movie, Rocky Balboa, is definitely a good addition the franchise.
remember when he bet that other rocky movies would never be good like rocky 1? i think he will like rocky 6 better than rocky 5 , what do u guys think? his rank will be 1,2,3,6,5,4, u can write that down
You can't blame Tommy to much. After all, being called someone's puppet or anything like that, it is gonna get to you after a bit. So getting pissed about it I understand. Also, he is in such a hurry and full of himself to think he can beat the Champion, it just all becomes to much for him and he explodes. Sad thing is, he aimed it at the wrong guy. Getting pissed at the press, should have gone on tv and called them out and corrected them by telling them HE is his OWN MAN and is the one in the ring fighting and Rocky is the manager, nothing more. He then falls into the trap of the fast talking, self important, self interested, money hungry shark and it all goes downhill. Tommy's ego and overall greed and impatience lead him to the Lion while he was still a housecat.
Tommy Gunn was played by real life heavyweight boxer Tommy Morrison, which is why his acting is subpar. He was a very talented boxer who’s career unfortunately came to very tragic end.
My favorite part of the movie and in true Rocky character. It's never about money & he still loves pauli after all the crap he put him through. My other favorite lines are "My rings outside" after duke says Tommy Gunn only fights in the ring & when Tommy says he wants his respect & Rocky says "Come and get it"
Rocky IV is the weakest by far. It's important for setting up Creed but it is so far fetched and overblown with its Cold War message. The worst is behind you now.
1,3,5 in that order...4 is lazy...but 'Whatever he hits, he destroys' & 'I must break you' are wows. 5 is an excellent satire of the business while keeping story intact, and is quite believable if you think about it. This was a great way to break the formulaic rut. 5 INDEED made people unhappy Shan, but the jab at King was a haymaker
not a very good Rocky movie. it has a couple good scenes and thats it. infact for a beginner into the Rocky saga i tell them to watch Rocky 1234,6 go right from part 4 to Rocky Balboa.
When Burgess Meredith says “Mickey Loves You”, I get choked up every time. I’ve met the late Tommy Morrison, as he and I lived in KC at the same time. He got caught up in the life, just like in the film. Sad.
Here’s a recollection just for you, Shan. I met this guy once that was a rep for Ringside products. Punching bags, boxing gloves & the like. He was out on the town with Tommy one night. Now, from what I understand, Tommy grew up near a Native American reservation in Oklahoma. He got picked on a LOT, being a minority there. His fighting skills were honed growing up. Anyway, these guys were out, having a brew, and this fella bumps into Tommy. Words were exchanged, things got heated, and Tommy & the rep, along with the spiller and his two friends went outside. Tommy was looking down, kind of loosening up as that one guy & his friends were talking trash. The guy came up & took a swing and was met with a barrage of punches to the face! Down goes Frazier! Knocks the guy out cold. His friends were all of a sudden, palms out, apologizing, trying to get their swollen friend up off the pavement and out of there. Tommy went back in and resumed his beer.
Unpopular opinion - I really enjoy Rocky V! Great reaction, I've really enjoyed your experience and perspectives on the Rocky films, thanks for sharing. Rocky IV is almost a "period piece". Those of us who watched it in the early 90s, particularly those of us who watched it as kids, grew up really attached to the excitement of the training montage and EPIC final fight. In retrospect, we all laugh about the "hooray, Rocky won the Cold War" thing, and the overall plot isn't as strong as the other Rockys, so I definitely understand why it's your least favorite. For us old-school Rocky nerds it'll always hold a special place haha Rocky V has a MUCH worse reputation than it deserves. It is such a sharp turn from the general tone of the previous Rockys, especially its immediate predecessor. But for me, the performances from Stallone, Shire, and Young really shine and the final fight against Tommy had an amazing emotional payoff. Thanks again for sharing man! Keep em coming!
I think 5 is excellent, besides the acting of Morrison, what's not to love? New angle w/ the father stuff, Rocky wanting to stay in the game after retiring using Tommy Gunn as an avatar., dead Mickey cameos, protege betrayal, and towering above all, an utter skewering to the crooked boxing world and a big F you to Don King
Rocky V was pretty decent when you don't compare it to the first two. I think that comparison is what kills it for people. I'm really looking forward to Balboa!
Rocky V has grown on me over the years, as I've grown older myself. I dunno if it'd a great movie to showcase on the channel since its in black and white (made in the early 70's though) but I do believe that you would enjoy, on your own time possibly, Peter Bogdanovich's 'The Last Picture Show' from 1971 featuring a young Jeff Bridges, Timothy Bottoms and Cybil Sheppard along with Ben Johnson, Cloris Leachman and Ellen Burstyn. Nominated for 8 or 9 Oscars taking home 2 in the acting category which speaks to how well it was acted.
True, Tommy Morrison is not an actor, but was an American professional boxer who competed from 1988 to 1996, and held the WBO heavyweight title in 1993. He was ranked as the world's No.10 heavyweight by BoxRec at the conclusion of 1992. RIP Tommy “The Duke” Morrison
Tommy Gunn was played by Tommy Morrison, who was an up-and-coming boxer at the time. Morrison was the nephew (I think) of John Wayne. His boxing career was cut short after contracting HIV.
His nickname was the Duke because of John Wayne. Ironically that nickname was used twice in this series and Tommy's career in real life was far more tragic then this movie. Very sad
@@ShanWatchesMovies The only complaint I have with the movie is they over dramitized Rocky's Brain Damage, in real life athletes have recovered from that kind of damage
Tommy Gunn was a real boxer, Tommy Morrison. He was very good and was heavyweight champion. His life is a tragic story. He went from someone who had it all, declining quickly to his death at 44, likely from AIDS but there are conspiracy theories about what really happened. His life will make a great movie some day.
According to his mother , he had known he had the virus since the late 80's . He should have never been allowed to fight as a pro in real life . Wasn't until around 1996 he had a mandatory blood test before a fight , and was discovered and ended his fight career .
The problem with Rocky 5 is that it's not the least bit believable. Even if Rocky's accountant stole his savings and the IRS auctioned off all of his property, he would still be living comfortably off of his name alone, his connection with Tony Gazzo notwithstanding. His mob connections would not hinder his marketability given what Henry Hill was doing in the late 80's/early 90's. At the end of Rocky IV, Rocky was at his most marketable. He defeated the Soviet Union's best. Publishing companies would be lining up to get the rights to his autobiography. Movie production companies would be lining up to make movies about his life. He would have options.
I agree with your review. I think the only reason why I like Rocky IV so much is because I lived through it and it has sentimental value, because if we're talking about raw character development and script this movie is superior. For me, I thought the reasoning behind them losing all their money was a bit weak for me, and Tommy's acting is a little weak. But like I was trying not to spoil for you on the Rocky IV comments is that I do like the rags to riches then back to rags story arch however, bringing Rocky's story arch full circle, and it gave the franchise the grit, and Rocky the underdog status, that maybe 3 and 4 were lacking. I was glad to see Bill Conti back, but I do like the Rocky IV soundtrack work out to, but it definitely doesn't have the emotional impact that Conti's score has. I can see how fresh eyes would see this movie as having more substance than the previous film. I don't dislike any of the movies in this franchise but this might be the weakest one for me only because I feel like it has the weakest performances. That said, it still holds up pretty well, although that 'go for it' song is a little cheesy, but I still believe this is a strong movie with a lot of good qualities. I think you're really going to really like Rocky Balboa! RIP Sage Stallone. Very sad indeed.
I enjoyed this movie plenty as I made my way through the franchise properly. Wouldn't say it deserved all the vitriol it got. But the next one, Rocky Balboa is my favorite of the series. One of my all-time favorite movie theater experiences seeing that film at an early screening.
I think he says "Sue me for what?" Either cause he's broke so they guy really can't Sue him for anything, or cause he used the woman's hand to hit the guy.
@@vitorizzuto8493 ahhh no its hated because people are sheep and follow what people say, Why is it SOOO many people who see it for the first time are like WOW thats the worst i found it better than rocky IV ?
editing was crap in this, but yes, thankfully it wasnt the last rocky movie, because the last one is good, and if anything, makes this movie seem a little better than what it is, because this is the crumbiest ending they could have.. pure 90s hip hop here, and not just the music, but the cringy looking jerky close ups of everyone too.. but, ive grown to at least appreciate some aspects of this movie, such as the begining where it shows the effects of his rocky 4 fight in the shower and such, the scene of him remembering mick giving him the necklace, the adrian scenes, and the general story of rocky that leads, thankfully to rocky 6
I do wish they ended the franchise after Rocky IV! As Rocky beating Drago, avenging Apollo's death and defending his country's honour would have been a perfect ending to the franchise. Rocky V is a ok film, not a terrible film. Just not a film that was needed in my opinion. I do give credit to both Tommy Morrison and Sage Stallone for giving great acting debuts. They both saved this film from being terrible. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
While not a bad movie I didn't really enjoy Rocky V as best and it is the least memorable for me. However they made up for it with the final rocky movie, Rocky Balboa *known as Rocky FINAL in Japan and other countries. Looking forward to when you review that movie! Stallone has even he was "negligent" in the production of Rocky V, but i think they made up for it in Rocky VI/RockyBalboa/Rocky Final.
You should check out Peter Sellers movies, i noticed not one of his movies on this channel : Dr Strangelove 1964,Being There 1979,Lolita 1962, The Mouse that Roared 1959,The Party 1968, Casino Royale 1967,The Pink Panther 1963,The Return of Pink Panther 1975,A Shot in the Dark 1964,The Pink Panther strikes back 1976, Revenge of the Pink Panther 1978,Trail of Pink Panther 1982.
Cool to hear your opinion. You are obviously intelligent and you pay very close attention when watching movies. When this was new I was 18 and had been a Rocky fan since 1980. The first review I read about this film was in USA today here in Norway. They wrote that Rocky finally becomes realistic again in nr.5 and gave it 3.5 out of 5 stars. People liked it a lot in 1990-1991 before it gradually got this bad rep. It is much better than the simple Rocky 4. That was embarressing. I saw 3,4,5&6 in cinema when they were new. The two first ones on tv around 1980-81 as a little kid. Lifetime fan.
I agree that Rocky 4 was kind of the weakest one as they made Rocky as super human. However, the beginning of Rocky 5 brought that down to human. They also wanted the Rocky character to die, which would have kept the realism, but just like Rambo they didn't kill him. When I myself heard that Rocky Balboa was being made, I was kind of not liking it because, as you said here, this was Talia Shire Shire's last Rocky. Then I watched the first original trailer and I WAS IN (emphasizing not yelling). If you like movie trailers, you'll love this one. The trailer doesn't give anything but part in movie and trailer is a scene where Rocky stands in front of a car at night with the car's lights, it literally made him God like. Burgess Meredith was still making movies when someone asked him. 2 movie I recommend would be Grumpy Old Men and Grumpier Old Men, a superior old time cast (Walter Mathew, Jack Lemon, the original Odd Couple, Ann Margret in 1and 2 and Sophia Loren in 2, all movies I recommend including The Odd Couple, 1968 and sequel 1998. Yes it was a cash in from the Grumpy Men series but still funny movie. Another fight scene compared to this one, Keith David vs Roddy Piper in John Carpenter's They Live, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. So so sorry for a long comment hope you get a chance to read it.
Thought you might be interested in checking out a Western Series called "LONESOME DOVE" this series is based on four western novels written by Larry McMurtry. There were five television miniseries and two television series based upon them. Directed by Simon Wincer, the screenplay was by Peter Bogdanovich and Larry McMurtry intended to star John Wayne, James Stewart and Henry Fonda. But John Ford advised John Wayne against it. Eventually, Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones costarred in this miniseries. I hope you give it a watch, It is a great Classic!
The reason so many people dont like this, is cuz this was supposed to wrap up the entire series. And many fans felt it was very underwhelming for a conclusion. "Rocky Balboa" (or 6) is, IMO, an excellent movie and a PERFECT conclusion
I actually like Rocky 5 better than Rocky 3, Balboa, and both of the Creed movies. It has great Mickey scenes, a decent soundtrack, and has a better overall lesson than "I have to win because my trainer died." It's unfortunate that the kid sucks and takes up a lot of screen time, but "You knocked him down. Why don't you try knocking me down now?" is a Top 5 Rocky quote.
Underated Rocky film. I like this one more then part 3. I like Apollo in part 3, but thats it. Tommy Gun is a better villian then MrT due to the writing. The Hogan fight in 3 doesnt belong at all. Part 5 shows that Rocky's fame hasnt ruined his soul and it shows that he is a steet fighter. Great Channel!
I'm not a big fan of Rokcy V I have to admit. For me it's the weakest of all Rocky movies. But I really looking forward to your reaction to Rocky Balboa. Together with the first ohne, this is my favourite movie of the franchise and I hope you' ll like it too. Another suggestion for a nice and a little bit forgotten movie to watch is the 1990s Turtles movie. By far the best adaptation of the franchise.
Enjoy the boxing movie videos. Take a look at Cinderella man with Russell Crowe if you haven't seen it. I don't think it got the attention and credit it deserved. True ish (mostly, they took a few liberties) story of a down and out depression era boxer James Braddock who had one of the more remarkable comebacks in sports history. The only minor valid criticism of the film in my opinion is they used the reigning heavyweight champion Max Baer as a two dimensional villain. But it was excellent all around even with that.
This was the first film in the series. That i didn't think was a good ending for the series. Even though I am probably biased towards the film because Tommy Morrison was a local fighter.RIP. As a boxing guy. I figured the Don King stuff was a bit on the nose. I do think its interesting that Stallone began using real boxers here and in RB.
The reason I loathe Rocky V is because it's nowhere near as good as the others. It tries to be like the first two, but it lacks the heart they had, and Rocky shows absolutely no respect for his wife and son throughout the film. Adrianne makes him retire because she's afraid he'll die based upon the medical reports given, and yet he goes out and street brawls with Tommy? It makes no sense. And he basically pushes his son aside for the glory of winning fights. It's just not a great film. I don't much care for Rocky Balboa either for the same reasons. But go ahead and see it anyway.
I agree Rocky 5 is better than Rocky 4. Rocky IV was a little too predictable. I didn't like it the overall plot anywhere near as much as the rest of the movies. One thing to keep in mind in Rocky Balboa is the change in context.
where is rocky 4? rocky 5 is ok but not very good. it suffers from the child friendly story and a very poor antagonist... despite and because of its 'back to basics' approach..
At the ending of the street fight when Rocky says "sue me for what" Its not so much what charge he would get its more about what he's gonna sue Rocky for. Remember Rocky lost everything.
This movie works fine when you are watching the whole series back-to-back, but I can imagine the disappointment of you had been waiting years between movies and there’s no ring fight.
George Washington Duke gets what he deserves after this with having to deal with all of Kramer's lawsuit shenanigans. In all seriousness, Richard Gant is great in this and I always enjoy his performances.
Nice to see someone else appreciate this one. I think many have been far too harsh on it in the past, even Stallone infamously gave it a 0 out of 10! However Rocky Balboa is imho a vastly superior film which was a pleasant and very welcome surprise at the time. It was the perfect way to end the saga.
Can't wait to see Your reaction to Rocky Balboa from 2006.
That one is terrible 😂
No its not
I think it was great.
I'm actually looking forward to watching it and making up my own mind!
@@ShanWatchesMovies Well the guy who said it was terrible probably because it didn't have the John Wick movies action which I won't see because the puppy character gets killed and not off screen either which I am afraid of Damn the movie Dances With Wolves that did thisthat did that to me
Sorry, one thing I didn't mention in my first loooong comment (sorry) is Stallone directed Rocky Balboa. His directing is so so different from Rocky 2 it looks more like John G. Avildsen directed this.
All the Rocky movies were great in their own way, glad you enjoyed this one, Rocky Balboa is also good in its own way too.
' Rocky Balboa ' is perfect. Can't wait to watch you view it.
I recommend it every time I comment. "Falling Down" with Michael Douglas and Robert Duvall.
Dew it!
I SECOND THAT MOTION. Falling Down is genius hidden in plain sight. Just a deep but really fun ride, like if Taxi Driver had a sense of humor without the redemptive angle
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Thank you for the recommendation, it's going on the list!
Falling Down, besides Robert Duval and Michael Douglas being in it, it also has Barbara Hershey
@@scottjo63 Yeah David Carradine's ex. 'They appeared in Martin Scorsese's Boxcar Bertha.' A very early Scorcese. She was quite a sight back then
Didnt see or dont remember this one. Liking and commenting for Shan love.
It's all a build up to Rocky Balboa!
This was supposed to be the final film, but the it ended on such a sour note that fans largely rejected it. Rocky, after everything he's fought through and risen above . . . winds up right back where he started at the beginning of the series. It just didn't land with people. And it took Stallone 15 years to realize a more satisfying conclusion to Rocky's in-ring career.
I love all the Rocky movies but it took Stallone 16 years to make Balboa because 5 was considered a failure and no one wanted him to make another one so all studios were basically rejecting him. It took Liongate known for taking risk for him to make it
I'm really looking forward to watching Balboa now!
@@ShanWatchesMovies I can't wait for your reaction.
Great reviews! Rocky Balboa is a really good movie. I think this is the worst of all the Rocky movies. The 4th was one of my favorites. RIP his son and Tommy M.
Tommy Gunn - played by Tommy Morrison (January 2, 1969 - September 1, 2013) was allegedly John Wayne's nephew. He had won 18 fights in the heavyweight division, intriguing Stallone to hire him for the film. Morrison later won the vacant championship in a fight against George Foreman.
Glad you liked this one. I like 'em all. Looking forward to Rocky Balboa!
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Each sequel was meant to be the last movie. When Stallone was writing this he decided that this would be the last Rocky and it would be appropriate to go full circle. He wanted to put Rocky back to where he loved him. Back to Rocky's roots. I personally love this as the final film. Which it was for a very long time. When's the Stallone announced he was making another Rocky movie I wondered how he was going to make one without Talia Shire, who insisted that she was never ever coming back to the Rockies series.
One thing I've learnt in regards to the dislike towards this movie - There are 2 types of Rocky fans. There's the fighting fans, and then there are Rocky fans. THAT, is the difference.
This is one taught important life lessons for me.
Rocky V is great. Never understood why people didn’t like it. It wasn’t until I got older this film even got the hate it did.
People shit on this movie but I must say for me it's one of my favorite's in this franchise. I also love that it ended in a street fight. Tommy was younger bigger up and coming boxer and with Rockys age and health issues probably would have beaten him in a boxing match or even worse. Rocky is from the streets and it shows in this fight. By the way RIP Tommy Morrison the man had a nasty left hook.
Stallone took a lot .. in this from Mike Tyson's story . The whole thing with Duke stealing Tommy away from Rocky ! directly taken from Don King , stealing and brainwashing Mike Tyson away from Kevin Rooney , and Bill Cayton . And all the quotes from Mickey to Rocky , taken from interviews of Cus D'amato , when he was talking about Mike .
Definitely my least favourite of the series but if anything it does help set the stage for Rocky Balboa.
That's Stallone real son Sage who played his son in the movie; he past away some yrs ago
I personally rank this as my least favourite Rocky film. Even though Rocky IV was cheesy, it had the right amount that was too much or too little, and it being an '80s film, it can get away with such things, whereas Rocky V felt like a betrayal of everything Rocky did up that point. His wealth, success, and everything he did felt undone. The next movie, Rocky Balboa, is definitely a good addition the franchise.
Have you seen an old movie called The Miracle Worker ? If not its definitely worth watching.
When Rocky says sue me for what? He meant that he was broke. The promoter would get nothing.
I liked Balboa as much as Rocky one.
remember when he bet that other rocky movies would never be good like rocky 1? i think he will like rocky 6 better than rocky 5 , what do u guys think? his rank will be 1,2,3,6,5,4, u can write that down
Sue me for what? Remember he was broke with no money lol
Said it before and I'll say it again, this film has the best credits ever.
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You can't blame Tommy to much. After all, being called someone's puppet or anything like that, it is gonna get to you after a bit. So getting pissed about it I understand. Also, he is in such a hurry and full of himself to think he can beat the Champion, it just all becomes to much for him and he explodes. Sad thing is, he aimed it at the wrong guy. Getting pissed at the press, should have gone on tv and called them out and corrected them by telling them HE is his OWN MAN and is the one in the ring fighting and Rocky is the manager, nothing more. He then falls into the trap of the fast talking, self important, self interested, money hungry shark and it all goes downhill. Tommy's ego and overall greed and impatience lead him to the Lion while he was still a housecat.
This would have been a much better movie with an actor as Tommy Gunn.
Tommy Gunn was played by real life heavyweight boxer Tommy Morrison, which is why his acting is subpar. He was a very talented boxer who’s career unfortunately came to very tragic end.
You knocked him down, why don't you try knockin' me down now.
My favorite part of the movie and in true Rocky character. It's never about money & he still loves pauli after all the crap he put him through. My other favorite lines are "My rings outside" after duke says Tommy Gunn only fights in the ring & when Tommy says he wants his respect & Rocky says "Come and get it"
Rocky IV is the weakest by far. It's important for setting up Creed but it is so far fetched and overblown with its Cold War message. The worst is behind you now.
Looking forward to Balboa!
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Movie sucked but Mickey flashback was AMAZING 10+++!!!
1,3,5 in that order...4 is lazy...but 'Whatever he hits, he destroys' & 'I must break you' are wows. 5 is an excellent satire of the business while keeping story intact, and is quite believable if you think about it. This was a great way to break the formulaic rut. 5 INDEED made people unhappy Shan, but the jab at King was a haymaker
Can't wait for you to watch rocky 3.... thousand. 😁
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not a very good Rocky movie. it has a couple good scenes and thats it. infact for a beginner into the Rocky saga i tell them to watch Rocky 1234,6 go right from part 4 to Rocky Balboa.
Sly hates the movie.
oof this is a dumper
Can't completely disagree with you there. Excited for Balboa though!
When Burgess Meredith says “Mickey Loves You”, I get choked up every time. I’ve met the late Tommy Morrison, as he and I lived in KC at the same time. He got caught up in the life, just like in the film. Sad.
Here’s a recollection just for you, Shan. I met this guy once that was a rep for Ringside products. Punching bags, boxing gloves & the like. He was out on the town with Tommy one night. Now, from what I understand, Tommy grew up near a Native American reservation in Oklahoma. He got picked on a LOT, being a minority there. His fighting skills were honed growing up.
Anyway, these guys were out, having a brew, and this fella bumps into Tommy. Words were exchanged, things got heated, and Tommy & the rep, along with the spiller and his two friends went outside.
Tommy was looking down, kind of loosening up as that one guy & his friends were talking trash. The guy came up & took a swing and was met with a barrage of punches to the face! Down goes Frazier! Knocks the guy out cold. His friends were all of a sudden, palms out, apologizing, trying to get their swollen friend up off the pavement and out of there. Tommy went back in and resumed his beer.
You’ll have to wait 13 years to watch the next one just like we did!
in fact it were 16 looooooooong years ....
Unpopular opinion - I really enjoy Rocky V! Great reaction, I've really enjoyed your experience and perspectives on the Rocky films, thanks for sharing.
Rocky IV is almost a "period piece". Those of us who watched it in the early 90s, particularly those of us who watched it as kids, grew up really attached to the excitement of the training montage and EPIC final fight. In retrospect, we all laugh about the "hooray, Rocky won the Cold War" thing, and the overall plot isn't as strong as the other Rockys, so I definitely understand why it's your least favorite. For us old-school Rocky nerds it'll always hold a special place haha
Rocky V has a MUCH worse reputation than it deserves. It is such a sharp turn from the general tone of the previous Rockys, especially its immediate predecessor. But for me, the performances from Stallone, Shire, and Young really shine and the final fight against Tommy had an amazing emotional payoff.
Thanks again for sharing man! Keep em coming!
I think 5 is excellent, besides the acting of Morrison, what's not to love? New angle w/ the father stuff, Rocky wanting to stay in the game after retiring using Tommy Gunn as an avatar., dead Mickey cameos, protege betrayal, and towering above all, an utter skewering to the crooked boxing world and a big F you to Don King
Rocky V was pretty decent when you don't compare it to the first two. I think that comparison is what kills it for people.
I'm really looking forward to Balboa!
I really think you will like Rocky Balboa.
Rocky V has grown on me over the years, as I've grown older myself. I dunno if it'd a great movie to showcase on the channel since its in black and white (made in the early 70's though) but I do believe that you would enjoy, on your own time possibly, Peter Bogdanovich's 'The Last Picture Show' from 1971 featuring a young Jeff Bridges, Timothy Bottoms and Cybil Sheppard along with Ben Johnson, Cloris Leachman and Ellen Burstyn. Nominated for 8 or 9 Oscars taking home 2 in the acting category which speaks to how well it was acted.
This is my favorite Rocky movie. I was 10 years old living in Philadelphia when this came out and the advertising for this film was insane.
True, Tommy Morrison is not an actor, but was an American professional boxer who competed from 1988 to 1996, and held the WBO heavyweight title in 1993. He was ranked as the world's No.10 heavyweight by BoxRec at the conclusion of 1992.
RIP Tommy “The Duke” Morrison
For a non-actor, I thought he did a decent job.
@@auntdeen6314 Me too.
Rocky: Sue me for what? - meaning "I'm bankrupt, what are you gonna get from me?"
Tommy Gunn was played by Tommy Morrison, who was an up-and-coming boxer at the time. Morrison was the nephew (I think) of John Wayne.
His boxing career was cut short after contracting HIV.
I just read up on his career Ronald. Very tragic indeed!
His nickname was the Duke because of John Wayne. Ironically that nickname was used twice in this series and Tommy's career in real life was far more tragic then this movie. Very sad
@@ShanWatchesMovies The only complaint I have with the movie is they over dramitized Rocky's Brain Damage, in real life athletes have recovered from that kind of damage
Im sorry I haven't been doing any trivia but I will be doing some next week for u keep up with your good work you're my favourite reaction film review
No worries Mongo! Eagerly waiting for your return!
Tommy Gunn was a real boxer, Tommy Morrison. He was very good and was heavyweight champion. His life is a tragic story. He went from someone who had it all, declining quickly to his death at 44, likely from AIDS but there are conspiracy theories about what really happened. His life will make a great movie some day.
He died i never knew.
I just read up on him. Very sad :(
According to his mother , he had known he had the virus since the late 80's . He should have never been allowed to fight as a pro in real life . Wasn't until around 1996 he had a mandatory blood test before a fight , and was discovered and ended his fight career .
You should watch Creed 1 and 2 now
The problem with Rocky 5 is that it's not the least bit believable. Even if Rocky's accountant stole his savings and the IRS auctioned off all of his property, he would still be living comfortably off of his name alone, his connection with Tony Gazzo notwithstanding. His mob connections would not hinder his marketability given what Henry Hill was doing in the late 80's/early 90's. At the end of Rocky IV, Rocky was at his most marketable. He defeated the Soviet Union's best. Publishing companies would be lining up to get the rights to his autobiography. Movie production companies would be lining up to make movies about his life. He would have options.
I agree with your review. I think the only reason why I like Rocky IV so much is because I lived through it and it has sentimental value, because if we're talking about raw character development and script this movie is superior. For me, I thought the reasoning behind them losing all their money was a bit weak for me, and Tommy's acting is a little weak. But like I was trying not to spoil for you on the Rocky IV comments is that I do like the rags to riches then back to rags story arch however, bringing Rocky's story arch full circle, and it gave the franchise the grit, and Rocky the underdog status, that maybe 3 and 4 were lacking. I was glad to see Bill Conti back, but I do like the Rocky IV soundtrack work out to, but it definitely doesn't have the emotional impact that Conti's score has. I can see how fresh eyes would see this movie as having more substance than the previous film. I don't dislike any of the movies in this franchise but this might be the weakest one for me only because I feel like it has the weakest performances. That said, it still holds up pretty well, although that 'go for it' song is a little cheesy, but I still believe this is a strong movie with a lot of good qualities. I think you're really going to really like Rocky Balboa! RIP Sage Stallone. Very sad indeed.
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Thank you Shan for your great content.
I enjoyed this movie plenty as I made my way through the franchise properly. Wouldn't say it deserved all the vitriol it got. But the next one, Rocky Balboa is my favorite of the series. One of my all-time favorite movie theater experiences seeing that film at an early screening.
I can't wait for the next one!
Cant wait till you get to
Rocky Balboa.
Creed and creed 2
This movie is a bit of the "black sheep" in the series. But I still like it.
I think he says "Sue me for what?" Either cause he's broke so they guy really can't Sue him for anything, or cause he used the woman's hand to hit the guy.
The worst Rocky in the franchise after the best one, What a downfall.
You're half right, this is easily the worst in the franchise but IV is only a bit better.
Shan! I liked your reaction! I do like all of the Rocky films! This film was good! Congratulations on 11.3k subscribers!
Thank you so much as usual Anastasia!
most underrated film almost of all time its hated because its popular to hate which is sad because it really is a good film
Um no its hated because its the worst one...
@@vitorizzuto8493 ahhh no its hated because people are sheep and follow what people say, Why is it SOOO many people who see it for the first time are like WOW thats the worst i found it better than rocky IV ?
This one is interesting. Has some good parts in it. 7/10 for me. Not enough 80's music montages for me. 4 is my all-time favorite.
editing was crap in this, but yes, thankfully it wasnt the last rocky movie, because the last one is good, and if anything, makes this movie seem a little better than what it is, because this is the crumbiest ending they could have.. pure 90s hip hop here, and not just the music, but the cringy looking jerky close ups of everyone too.. but, ive grown to at least appreciate some aspects of this movie, such as the begining where it shows the effects of his rocky 4 fight in the shower and such, the scene of him remembering mick giving him the necklace, the adrian scenes, and the general story of rocky that leads, thankfully to rocky 6
Dolph Lundgren made Rocky 4 watchable
The more I watch all the movies,, the more I appreciate ROCKY 5..
I do wish they ended the franchise after Rocky IV! As Rocky beating Drago, avenging Apollo's death and defending his country's honour would have been a perfect ending to the franchise. Rocky V is a ok film, not a terrible film. Just not a film that was needed in my opinion. I do give credit to both Tommy Morrison and Sage Stallone for giving great acting debuts. They both saved this film from being terrible. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Let's see...Tyson had already been seduced by Don King[1988] and lost when this came out...soooo....
Highly recommending these three movies: Donnie Brasco (1997), Heat (1995) and Witness (1985).
Enjoy your reactions so much, bro!
Thank you so much Dave!
While not a bad movie I didn't really enjoy Rocky V as best and it is the least memorable for me. However they made up for it with the final rocky movie, Rocky Balboa *known as Rocky FINAL in Japan and other countries. Looking forward to when you review that movie! Stallone has even he was "negligent" in the production of Rocky V, but i think they made up for it in Rocky VI/RockyBalboa/Rocky Final.
Yeah this is the Rocky that most people hate. I didn't like this movie. I like all the Rocky movies except this movie.
You should check out Peter Sellers movies, i noticed not one of his movies on this channel :
Dr Strangelove 1964,Being There 1979,Lolita 1962, The Mouse that Roared 1959,The Party 1968, Casino Royale 1967,The Pink Panther 1963,The Return of Pink Panther 1975,A Shot in the Dark 1964,The Pink Panther strikes back 1976, Revenge of the Pink Panther 1978,Trail of Pink Panther 1982.
Cool to hear your opinion. You are obviously intelligent and you pay very close attention when watching movies. When this was new I was 18 and had been a Rocky fan since 1980. The first review I read about this film was in USA today here in Norway. They wrote that Rocky finally becomes realistic again in nr.5 and gave it 3.5 out of 5 stars. People liked it a lot in 1990-1991 before it gradually got this bad rep. It is much better than the simple Rocky 4. That was embarressing. I saw 3,4,5&6 in cinema when they were new. The two first ones on tv around 1980-81 as a little kid. Lifetime fan.
KEEP GOING the NEXT ROCKY MOVIE ***BALBOA*** you will really appreciate . It is TOP SHELF for the Rocky series.
I agree that Rocky 4 was kind of the weakest one as they made Rocky as super human. However, the beginning of Rocky 5 brought that down to human. They also wanted the Rocky character to die, which would have kept the realism, but just like Rambo they didn't kill him.
When I myself heard that Rocky Balboa was being made, I was kind of not liking it because, as you said here, this was Talia Shire Shire's last Rocky. Then I watched the first original trailer and I WAS IN (emphasizing not yelling). If you like movie trailers, you'll love this one. The trailer doesn't give anything but part in movie and trailer is a scene where Rocky stands in front of a car at night with the car's lights, it literally made him God like.
Burgess Meredith was still making movies when someone asked him. 2 movie I recommend would be Grumpy Old Men and Grumpier Old Men, a superior old time cast (Walter Mathew, Jack Lemon, the original Odd Couple, Ann Margret in 1and 2 and Sophia Loren in 2, all movies I recommend including The Odd Couple, 1968 and sequel 1998. Yes it was a cash in from the Grumpy Men series but still funny movie.
Another fight scene compared to this one, Keith David vs Roddy Piper in John Carpenter's They Live, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. So so sorry for a long comment hope you get a chance to read it.
Thought you might be interested in checking out a Western Series called "LONESOME DOVE" this series is based on four western novels written by Larry McMurtry. There were five television miniseries and two television series based upon them. Directed by Simon Wincer, the screenplay was by Peter Bogdanovich and Larry McMurtry intended to star John Wayne, James Stewart and Henry Fonda. But John Ford advised John Wayne against it. Eventually, Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones costarred in this miniseries. I hope you give it a watch, It is a great Classic!
The reason so many people dont like this, is cuz this was supposed to wrap up the entire series. And many fans felt it was very underwhelming for a conclusion. "Rocky Balboa" (or 6) is, IMO, an excellent movie and a PERFECT conclusion
I actually like Rocky 5 better than Rocky 3, Balboa, and both of the Creed movies. It has great Mickey scenes, a decent soundtrack, and has a better overall lesson than "I have to win because my trainer died." It's unfortunate that the kid sucks and takes up a lot of screen time, but "You knocked him down. Why don't you try knocking me down now?" is a Top 5 Rocky quote.
I enjoyed V better than IV as well. Nice review, as always. Can't wait to see what you think about Balboa.
Underated Rocky film.
I like this one more then part 3.
I like Apollo in part 3, but thats it.
Tommy Gun is a better villian then MrT due to the writing.
The Hogan fight in 3 doesnt belong at all.
Part 5 shows that Rocky's fame hasnt ruined his soul and it shows that he is a steet fighter.
Great Channel!
I'm not a big fan of Rokcy V I have to admit. For me it's the weakest of all Rocky movies. But I really looking forward to your reaction to Rocky Balboa. Together with the first ohne, this is my favourite movie of the franchise and I hope you' ll like it too.
Another suggestion for a nice and a little bit forgotten movie to watch is the 1990s Turtles movie. By far the best adaptation of the franchise.
Enjoy the boxing movie videos. Take a look at Cinderella man with Russell Crowe if you haven't seen it. I don't think it got the attention and credit it deserved. True ish (mostly, they took a few liberties) story of a down and out depression era boxer James Braddock who had one of the more remarkable comebacks in sports history.
The only minor valid criticism of the film in my opinion is they used the reigning heavyweight champion Max Baer as a two dimensional villain. But it was excellent all around even with that.
This was the first film in the series. That i didn't think was a good ending for the series. Even though I am probably biased towards the film because Tommy Morrison was a local fighter.RIP. As a boxing guy. I figured the Don King stuff was a bit on the nose. I do think its interesting that Stallone began using real boxers here and in RB.
The reason I loathe Rocky V is because it's nowhere near as good as the others. It tries to be like the first two, but it lacks the heart they had, and Rocky shows absolutely no respect for his wife and son throughout the film. Adrianne makes him retire because she's afraid he'll die based upon the medical reports given, and yet he goes out and street brawls with Tommy? It makes no sense. And he basically pushes his son aside for the glory of winning fights. It's just not a great film. I don't much care for Rocky Balboa either for the same reasons. But go ahead and see it anyway.
I agree Rocky 5 is better than Rocky 4. Rocky IV was a little too predictable. I didn't like it the overall plot anywhere near as much as the rest of the movies. One thing to keep in mind in Rocky Balboa is the change in context.
Rocky Balboa is a very good movie. Has feels like the first 2. Looking forward to your reaction on that.
Great reaction. I really don't know why people put this one down.
It’s just not as good as the others. The weakest in the entire series.
where is rocky 4? rocky 5 is ok but not very good. it suffers from the child friendly story and a very poor antagonist... despite and because of its 'back to basics' approach..
I still have all the Rocky soundtracks. I listened to the first Ine by far the most, but this is clearly nr.2. Fun 1990 rap.
At the ending of the street fight when Rocky says "sue me for what" Its not so much what charge he would get its more about what he's gonna sue Rocky for. Remember Rocky lost everything.
This movie works fine when you are watching the whole series back-to-back, but I can imagine the disappointment of you had been waiting years between movies and there’s no ring fight.
Boy his kid aged considerably during the plane ride home from the Soviet Union. Must have been a hell of a layover somewhere.
George Washington Duke gets what he deserves after this with having to deal with all of Kramer's lawsuit shenanigans. In all seriousness, Richard Gant is great in this and I always enjoy his performances.
Really underrated film, I think. Not as fun as 4, or as good as 6, but pretty good.
Would love to see what you think of Assault on Precinct 13 (1976) if you haven't seen it , there was a remake but IMO its no where near as good
Nice to see someone else appreciate this one. I think many have been far too harsh on it in the past, even Stallone infamously gave it a 0 out of 10! However Rocky Balboa is imho a vastly superior film which was a pleasant and very welcome surprise at the time. It was the perfect way to end the saga.
All should watch 'The Legendary Power of Tommy Morrison'
Great career vid on YT
22:04 it is why the movie got a lot criticized back then, I think too. But nowadays I think he aged like wine compared to 4 for example.
I actually named one of my daughters Talya in honor of Talia shire
That's awesome!
Tommy Morrison is related to John Wayne, the actor, he was one of the first, If not the only boxer, who came out to say he had HIV
No matter what people say about this film the fact is Rocky trained 2 guys to the heavyweight title..
When Rocky said, "Sue me for what?" he was referring to his lack of any wealth, not the actual allegations.
If you want a great caricature of Don King, samuel l jackson does it well in Great White Hype
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