Either that or he’s the result of yet another morally dubious and exceedingly effective ONI Pet Project. Have you met a mute in military service that survived for hours completely isolated in a warzone that’s filled to the bring with alien killing machines? Definitely an oddity is it not.
I have a degree in psychology and neuroscience, with a personal interest in prosthetics and bodily enhancement, and I'm an avid halo lore nerd. I'd be happy to talk with you more about this subject.
I'm a clinical psychology master's student with a heavy interest in survival psychology, anxiety disorders, stress disorders, and depressive disorders. I am also interested in behavioral and cognitive programming. I would love to talk about this as well.
If you guys look for The BOMB IN THE BRAIN Series by Stefan Molyneux. He was the first person to be cancelled on UA-cam bc he unbullshitted a lot about child rearing. Spanking is a religion. Hope you guys look it up and watch it. Will change your life.
IVE SAID GAMEPLAY TAKES PLACE IN SPARTAN TIME FOR YEARS, FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES! My evidence came from how marines react vs how you react in time and manor.
I came to that realization when I began to dodge the plasma shots at me. And thought these can be real weapons you could just step out of the way. Then I kind of hit me. Ohhhh super soldier brain speed. Makes sense, but elites swing faster than they actually shoot
I think the conversation between Halsey and one of the Spartan Thorton is now gold. When he asked what made Spartan IIs more capable of being Spartans than the Spartan IVs.
One thing i'm curious about now is a Spartan's diet. I would imagine with increased muscle mass and bone density that their diet would be much different than a normal person's. Not to mention the strenuous work they do.
No one: Halo 2 Legendary Jackal Sniper: turns around and snipes you in head in less than half a second Jackals must have some neural dendrite augmentations we never learned about
Veterans who experienced strong or prolonged combat have similar social behaviors as Spartans. It's hard to connect with people who have not gone through the same.. it's hard to live when you feel like your purpose has been lost.. and look at the american statistics.. we average 22 veteran suicides a day.. and we are average people who typically volunteer around age 18... and the basics of bootcamp are the same that are explained in fall of reach.. everything is structured in your day.. you are groomed to follow orders and act. And our longest bootcamp is 3 months or so.. and this training is prolonged if you sign on for more specialized combat training.. i.e. special forces.. it's no where the length of time that the Spartans go through. Thank you for.doing this video.. it's kinda cool knowing at some level.. I can relate to Spartans
Your words hit me hard. I am no soldier. I would've but my mom begged me not to leave her. So I didn't. But that's both here more there. First I'd like to say thank you. Really. I can understand now what it takes. And it means alot that youd serve for your country your ppl. I'm honored. But I'm no soldier. My friend who is my age is now a veteran. And just like how you described is exactly how he said. And although I tell him. " I will never truly understand. I was not there." But I try to listen to him and help him. He lost alot.alot ee dont speak of. He can get triggered quick. But it comes from a place of love. And protection of him and everyone he loves. He fells abandoned. And lost in a society that writes him off, and all the credentials he was promised didn't all fall through. Friends and family all but gone or moved on from his PTSD I will never truly understand. No. But I try. I try to be there for him the best I can. I know it's long but I guess I had to get that off my chest. Although I may not understand him. i guess I just needed someone to understand why I try to help him. Idk?
@@latenightgaming5057 thank you for trying.. it goes a long way. Though your friend might not say it to where you can understand... having you there is helping him more than you know. I have friends that will never understand, but they wont hesitate to come help or simply hang out when I ask. There has been a handful of times.. where the simple act of them just hanging out with me has stopped me from doing something stupid. If you have questions or your friend wants or needs someone to talk to.. I'm a message away. Final words for now.. no matter how bad it gets dont give up on your friend.. our internal battles can get the better of us from time to time.
@@kindasupersonic7114 thank you I will. I cried when I wrote that and I needed to catch my breath. It's like you read are mines. He does call me at random hrs. For random things. And it's so he doesn't do anything "STUPID". thank I really do mean it. I hope it all makes since and I dont sound like a dummy. But this all really hit home for me. I just felt like a guy helping a friend. But know I know that we're not alone. And lots of ppl must be going through this
I wanted to join the army partly becase my grandfather's and my uncle's were in the navie and the army but my eyesight wasn't good enough i dident get in, my uncle had a very hard time after he got out of the armed forces
I really gotta say thank you for this. I'm no soldier but I got a friend who's my age 31. And hes now a vet. And hes been through so much. I feel bad cause I can never fully understand. But I try to at least listen to him and help him. And give the best advice I can. Its tragic really but I honor the men and women who serve. I see them in a new lite
Halo 4 gave us a glimpse of what Chiefs psychology would’ve actually been like and I wish they dove deeper. He would be a very dark and possibly unstable person in real life. A Spartan-II would never be able to integrate with society in a post war, Peace time era. I mean maybe there’s a few anomalies but They would have to live and die in the military because that is all they know. It doesn’t help that they’re basic instincts to procreate and have a family would be nullified. Child soldiers, great warriors for an even greater price: Their humanity. Great video, man! I’ve literally binged your whole channel, no one else goes as in depth as you do.
Plastikdoom Idk about that. The augmentations nullified the Spartan-II’s sex drive. They *can* have kids, but their mind has been augmented to where they essentially don’t want to in lack of better terms. This came from Halo Waypoint, sexual reproduction for a Spartan is not impossible. www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/db05ce78845f4120b062c50816008e5d/topics/can-spartans-have-children/9ba69d0c-82b0-426a-a0df-b045c2f1b614/posts There are a few Spartan-IIs that actually started a family. Randal from Halo Nightfall and another female Spartan if I’m not mistaken.
@@VanOfSalt its suppressed not nullified. Essentially it be harder to reach their engine sort of speak. Probably will need drugs to get everything in working order.
Created by neural physics that can only be destroyed by neural physics weapons or neutrinos, giant galactic size tentacles able to ripp planets and stars or Chuck them
Why is it that awesome/badass characters or organisations are almost always shit to be a part of: Spartan-IIs Spartan-IIIs Darth Vader (the Star Wars novel I'm reading has a chapter dedicated to showing how terrible his suit was) Jedi Order... etc
"You would feel lost as who you were, but simultaneously you would know confidently who you've become". I know how child abuse sets the stage for us, good or bad, mostly bad, for life. Thank you Stefan Molyneux for opening my eyes. The only reason S2s didn't turn out like mass shooters or sociopaths, is because they had each other, and a higher moral moral imperative permeated onto their daily life for years. You're the best man.
... the psychological profile you just gave. Could have been straight from one of my psychological evaluations. The side effects of the trama suffered are at times overwhelming and extremely exhausting. Without the augmentations I have no doubt that Spartans would be volatile. Extremely depressive and suicidal. But they would put a brave face on and hide their pain so they in their own mined did not appear weak to others. I am not a psychologist but I have studied the subject on my own time in the Hope's of finding a way to retrain my brain. So it would function normally. Furthermore I believe Spartans seek a family or rather a purpose for their existence. This Is as you explained part of the training. However also part of the training would have left them wanting to be a part of something greater. Or rather fearing being alone with only themselves. Fearing that their own mined might be their undoing. Fearing that their own doubts might overwhelm their fail safes should they be left with an idle mined. CmdBlacwolf217.
Psych student here, it seems like a weird thing to point out, but Ive always felt Cortana being a more matriarchal figure to chief than a lover, like a spirit who watched over a warrior god, It was interesting to see chief far more worried and vocal about Cortana in Halo 4, like an Aspergic child who knows something is terribly wrong with his mother but cant process it correctly, and is able to shroud his grief in his duty, Ive always thought it would he a highly interesting arc for chiefs mental health deteriorating, but being able to come back stronger, a strong message for people going through issues themselves
Great work, I’m loving your content. I found you just recently and I’m still looking through your backlog of videos. I appreciate your high level of detail you put into your work. Great stuff!
It's kind of weird, but in a whay they are a family don't you think? With Dr Halsey as the mother, CPO Mendez as the father, and the 75 spartens as the children (and Sargent Johnson as a big brither for anyone who read Silent Storm)
What the Spartans don't realise they're have been having abusive relationships with their peers when training, electric shock batons, constant screaming & yelling etc.
I think that was the point. Give the children a family dynamic to hide the fact that their humanity is being stripped away so they can fight for a people who will never really know or understand their pain. Give them siblings to make them work together and cooperate, but those siblings won't be able to help them with any pains. Keep them broken. I think the saddest scenes in Halo 4 is when Cortana is trying to explain the concept of rampancy and death to John and he doesn't know how to process it, and you can see him fiddling with his rifle or trying to figure some way how to punch the reaper because he has no other way of coping. That's the most insidious part of the SPARTAN program to me: that they take a human being and make them somehow more than but also less than human at the same time.
I'm the only who finds it weird that we haven't seen a single case of a spartan seeing himself superior to humans? Like they see themselfs as a different specise, evolved humans, or just post-human
@@Aden_III that makes me like the spartans even more. They are superior to us, but they risk their lives all the time to protect us, despite several people treating them like freaks
I love this fact. You Know a lot about halo. And then: boom! You punch me with juicy news. I am shocked. Possitivly. This work is greater then great. This channel deserves more love. My respects
Please return to the subject of psychology in the halo lore I loved this video and I would love to see a actual psychologist who is a halo fan breakdown the characters
Im inclined to think that Spartans, especially II's would basically never be able to take downtime, would constantly be doing things and had their immune systems not been boosted, would prolly burnout at very young ages. However, as that isnt the case, theyd continue to live wound way too tight for a very long time, and it would be hellish
Its mentioned a few times in various books and games scenes that the spartans all display the tendencies of psychopaths. having a history of dating psychopaths, I can say with accuracy that they feel more deeply than neuronormals, but have such a rigid control over themselves that they appear cold and unfeeling. I see this exact thing in the master chief, especially when it comes to his feelings towards cortana. He knows what his duty is, and most of the time he keeps himself under rigid control so he can keep on fighting, but you can see the feelings are there if you know what to look for. The whole thing about people being broken by the treatment the spartans had is entirely possible, but between their high quality genetics and the mental conditioning discipline they received, I dont think they are as broken as people seem to think they are. And throughout the games and books, the spartan 2 and 3's may not be social butterflies, but they do seem able to hold their own and be functional within their environment. Even if its all just an act, does that really matter? Aren't we all just faking it to some degree?
I don’t comment often. I found your channel a few days ago and I’ve been binge watching a lot of your videos. This is the most detailed Halo channel I have seen, bar none. I played Halo back in the XBox days (the original) and ir is one of my favorite games of all time.
I expect they can turn of the sensors in armor when it comes to "Wounds". Given their operations and the pain they became used to dealing with makes wound pain somewhat less than fight ending. At 6 years, they are definitely going to have a very different social/ societal outlook. Teenage angst is not going to fly in the least, that period of socialization is totally skipped.
Frankly, knowing what I know about the Spartans, I think that if the Covenant hadn't shown up most of them would have mutinied. John feels pity for the Insurrectionists he kills on his first mission and others, Daisy and her crew, outright tried to escape. Hell, we have one Spartan who deserted and started a family after the Covenant invaded. The Spartans believe they exist for a purpose and that purpose is probably a good deal more than, "stomp on the neck of every two-bit insurgent who looked at mama Parengosky the wrong way."
I’m not sure if it was Kurt or Mendez but somewhere in the Ghosts of Onyx it was said that as the Spartans grow so do their abilities. That means that by now all the left over spartan 2’s and 3’s are leagues above when they first got their augmentations.
CAMRO How? I’m pretty sure it was a general statement, meaning that Spartans as a whole get stronger as they age because their bodies get used to the enhancements. The augmentations has the same end results so there’s no way it’s a spartan III specific trait
@@ch33zyburrito36 spartan 2s are already at their prime right after augmentations. Kurt was only regarding the spartan 3s. Saying that some had the potential to match spartan 2s in time.
CAMRO Hm. Do you have the exact quote? I’ve always been under the impression that he was talking about spartans in general. And also if I remember correctly a single spartan III stood up to kelly in a 1v1 fight literally right after their augmentations were implemented so I don’t see how that would make any sense. Their augmentations have always been said to be equal, not gradually become equal. The only thing spartan III’s were missing was MJOLNIR and the rigorous childhood training
@@ch33zyburrito36 nah bro the spartan 2s have augmentations that are much more invasive and risky. But the payoff is better. I believe the spartan 2s are stronger because of that muscle augment that makes them bigger and heavier than normal humans. But spartan 3s can match their speed. It really depends on the person tho. I remember on operation torpedo no covenant could match the spartan 3s speed. As for the fight between lucy and Kelly. Kelly won because shes the fastest spartan alive and had better armor.
Spartans 2's and 3's in Halo are a interesting. On the one side they have been kidnapped from their homes from a very young age and turned into soldiers. The time of their where they learn how to be human and social etiquette they were taught how to fight and survive. They're really like Orks from the WarHammer where all they know is how to fight because they were never shown or taught anything else. In conclusion they're gov built and deployable psychopaths. On the other side some officer see Spartans as a piece of equipment (Like a scorpion tank that can walk). Give them an order and they will obey it like a machine.
Spartans are not psychopaths. Most them are capable of feeling empathy and remorse. It's that their indoctrination prevents them to properly expressing to non-military personnel. Lore accurately shown the Spartans are not devoid of empathy. Blue Team mourned for Sam's death. Blue Team went on a killing spree of army of jackals to avenge the deaths of human colonists. Master Chief denied ONI access to info about sergeant Johnson's condition that allowed him to be immune the flood. If chief agreed with ONI, Johnson would have been experimented on. Spartan Jorge comforted a civilian who lost her father and stood his ground against Emile for being insensitive towards her.
Mentally I couldn't imagine the PTSD and thinking pattern of master chief after all the stuff he's been through imagine one day he's like 100 years old and just sits back and is like (dang I've been through alot of horrible and dangerous situations in my life, I could just picture one day master chief realizes he's defeated everything, the forerunners, covenant, flood, humanity has become God's with master chief at the helm as their strongest fierce protector
Well, as far as I remember, S2's are still superior in everything but coordination training. S3's were trained to work better in groups to offset their lack mjiolnr and leverage their numbers. With the added detail that S2's augmentations are generally MUCH more effective then listed because of their genetics lining up with the augmentations. Basically, S3's are what S2's were projected to be, but S2's augmentations were in some instances twice as effective as expected. And there were a handful of select S3's who just so happened to also have compatible genetics so they are actually close to S2's in capability, Noble 6 for example, was an S3 but snipets of info mark them as being right up there with 117 in terms of battlefield lethality. The main benefit of the later generations was the reliability of augmentation and a considerably wider pool of compatible candidates. S2's were VERY particularly selected with a stupidly high wash-out rate. S3's were selected in a "close enough" mentality with basically no wash-outs due to augmentations. With S4's, the genetic requirements have gone out the window all-together and the washout rate is even lower then S3's, not to mention the turnaround time from recruitment to field-ready soldier doesn't take a decade.
@@idonthavethemass1227 both spartan 2s and 3s had spartan time which enhanced their perception of time where to them the battlefield seemed to slow down. Not too sure about the 4s tho
@@KillMonger592 But you had claimed Spartan III’s had FASTER reflexes? I agree, Spartan II’s and III’s are almost equal in physical abilities, but III’s have not shown any feats to show that they are faster than II’s. Spartan II’s have 20 millisecond reaction times. Which is fast enough to dodge gun fire. And that’s at the age 14, which at that time they were noted to be “Groggy, Tired, Hurting, And Having trouble walking” Their Reflexes also get faster when they age because of the augmentations. Not to mention it’s noted to be SIGNIFICANTLY faster in combat situations, when the blood is pumping. Not faster, SIGNIFICANTLY faster. They’re literally faster than the human eye can see.
I like how you think the rocket speed is a discrepancy, since reading the books has also made me make up my own head canon. which makes me really afraid of ilsa zane. as for the kidnapped part, man, lot of kids growing up to 6 then moving somewhere they don't know with either single parents of just relatives they don't even know. then in comes the chores, the different routines, the bullies and other things. it's bizarre to be sure.
Yo I measured the entirety of Noble Team's height and John of course. Damn I always forget just how insanely tall these people are in and out of the armor. It's crazy.
What game/media was the animation at the end of the video from, I don't recall any AI issues spartan in Mjiolnir MkV/VI being woken up by a beared man?
They could really have expanded the chiefs state of mind in Halo 5, instead 343 backtracked on that narrative and created something else, something truly awful. Which I think is incredible sad. Screw that weird plotline they went for, this is very basically how I would have made it; Borrowing heavily from say battlestar galactica razor & halo odst. Have chief on some spec-ops missions (may or may not be an important task), structured in a linear fashion but open terrain like halo is know for, accompanie him some good ol Odst that brings up that they wanna get in the newest spartan program. Let chief comment on that. Let chief have flashback-sections here & there , set in in reach, chi ceti etc,,,early stuff, maybe even anti-insurrection stuffs and end with something more recent, have it at different intervals when other characters or chiefs brings up certain stuff to other people. Contrast the character of the current chief & the younger where you show the disconnect he currently has when he is alone and where he has his buddies in the earlier years. There you can bring on familiar faces along the way where it actually makes sense instead of shoehorning it down they did in H5.
I think that sounds pretty bad ass but i dont think they would do something like that yet cause 343 is trying to get in a younger crowd and they probably wouldn't do that till they have a few midly good games under their belt before they do something that deep
Considering on reddit and such there were a whole lot of people who were saying it was stupid for Chief to be emotional instead of a "player insert blank slate" it didn't really surprise me that they walked it back.
6'3", both me and my brother. I played nearly all sports, but not skiing or rugby. I Play 4 instruments, my IQ is 165 my fields of study are Electronics, Business Administration, and Agriculture! Failure is not an option! Served in the Army for 6 years, in Reconnaissance and Satellite Communications. I liked to think they would have chosen someone like me for the Spartan Program! Hell I even had dreams about being in space in armor when I as a little kid at the age of 6. I still dream of having 5 ships, that I command. Our inheritance is space!
Same here, started the training dreams at age 6, started missions around 13 which stopped around 25. Now I'm in some command structure. Been dreaming a lot there lately. I've actually never played the game, I found this researching the dreams.
Will Golightly I never played it either, read a few books, and watches the movies and cinematics from the gameplay. Knowing the history of these stories, how humanity was nearly wiped out by the Forerunners, that at some point in time, thousands of years ago humans were nearly equal to them in technology, mentally and physically. would drive those of us tasked to protect humanity from being wiped out. And it should push us to strive to be better and more then what we are at the moment, are there actually limits, at the time maybe, but given time, knowledge, and an ever increase expansion into the unknown gaining old lost and new technologies, who knows what mankind would become, what we could ascend too! Humans have a very bright future, just as long as we leave the cradle of Earth! We can not remain toddlers forever!
@@thesurvivalist. I feel some of us have the "geas" of those old humans as I've seen them in my dreams, been on their ships, etc. Our story is just beginning. The sleeper must awaken ;)
If you’re looking for a psychologist who is a Halo fan, try hitting up HiddenXperia i’m pretty sure he mentioned having a psychology degree in one of his videos. Also it would be awesome to have you guys collab :p you’re both my favourite channels
They're not faster or stronger than S-IIs in full kit. But they ARE better in large groups when given a single objective. S-IIIs were designed to be suicide squads, trained for one HUGE mission and considered expendable. S-IVs were basically special forces under the Spartan branch of ONI. But S-IIs operated in all theaters, under all forms of command, in any combat environment. They had a very wide scope of operations. S-IIs were given far more leeway in their orders as well because every single one of them received such and extensive education including cross-training on all UNSC equipment. Even the "dumbest" S-II (if there is even such a thing) would have an scientific, philosophical, and martial intellect rivaling that of any top Naval Academy graduate. The smartest and fastest could (and did) out-think, outfight, outmaneuver, and outrun everybody else. Kelly, theoretically, could sprint at speeds up to 70mph and run at a sustained pace of 40-45mph. I think her reaction time with adrenaline was clocked at well under 15 milliseconds. Linda is a dead shot at 2,000 meters. John is capable of lifting several TONS in armor, and he's not even the strongest S-II. A barely-in-their-teens squad, even before their power armor, managed to take prisoner the head of an entire insurgency.
Man. I feel like you describe me. I was born with an issue, and spent time alone in hospital in city, away from parents in country town. I have depression and high function autism. I was very introverted and never mixed well. I'm much more sociable and confident now in my 40's. Parents were and are very supportive. Im athletic, and still injury free despite lifting heavy at gym. I wish i had eye augments as i use glasses. I'm more than most 47 yr olds but not a SPARTAN.
SHIT That's why halo always felt kind of slow. You're playing with a slight increase in perception time. That's actually really funky, I like it. I wonder if that's intended.
P.S I got 190ms.
With augmentation you'd be unstoppable.
Like really damn. Your looking at nearly instantaneous if not completly instant reaction time with argumentation.
Damn you're a god
ut would be interesting to compare the mindset of Spartans to the Clonetroopers from star wars...
I got 187ms and my god may I say how fast it is.
If the games are in "Spartan" time then Rookie is on drugs
Dosed up to the eye balls on speed.
Or is a spartan 1.1 who knows?
Ye
*jetinhalenoise*
Either that or he’s the result of yet another morally dubious and exceedingly effective ONI Pet Project. Have you met a mute in military service that survived for hours completely isolated in a warzone that’s filled to the bring with alien killing machines? Definitely an oddity is it not.
I have a degree in psychology and neuroscience, with a personal interest in prosthetics and bodily enhancement, and I'm an avid halo lore nerd. I'd be happy to talk with you more about this subject.
If he gets back with you, be ready for some subscribers.
Am going to cyro sleep so I can be a soilder similar to a spartan am a really good athlete but idk about my hieght I know the risk but idc
I'm a clinical psychology master's student with a heavy interest in survival psychology, anxiety disorders, stress disorders, and depressive disorders. I am also interested in behavioral and cognitive programming. I would love to talk about this as well.
I’m a nobody. Bring me on.
If you guys look for The BOMB IN THE BRAIN Series by Stefan Molyneux. He was the first person to be cancelled on UA-cam bc he unbullshitted a lot about child rearing. Spanking is a religion. Hope you guys look it up and watch it. Will change your life.
Spartan perceives reality 3x faster, gets insta sniped by jackal snipers anyway
that should honestly show you how terrifying jackal snipers are compared to anything else.
Sometimes its not the car but the driver
@@nikolajsteffensen6578 no jackle has killed or wounded a spartan with a sniper in the entire lore
Enoch Menor Have you played Halo 2 on Legendary?
@@Supermario0727 have you read the lore?
IVE SAID GAMEPLAY TAKES PLACE IN SPARTAN TIME FOR YEARS, FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES!
My evidence came from how marines react vs how you react in time and manor.
I came to that realization when I began to dodge the plasma shots at me. And thought these can be real weapons you could just step out of the way. Then I kind of hit me. Ohhhh super soldier brain speed. Makes sense, but elites swing faster than they actually shoot
If this much is true, then Halo Reach Elites are a lot faster than they should be.
I think the conversation between Halsey and one of the Spartan Thorton is now gold. When he asked what made Spartan IIs more capable of being Spartans than the Spartan IVs.
Yes... Gem moments amongst the rough. God Spartan Ops sucked it was like a bad Saturday morning cartoon
One thing i'm curious about now is a Spartan's diet. I would imagine with increased muscle mass and bone density that their diet would be much different than a normal person's. Not to mention the strenuous work they do.
Vaguely remember reading somewhere that Spartans get their recommended 80000 calories a day through paste or pills.
They’re also modified to better absorb nutrients and shit, so they wouldn’t need THAT much of a ridiculous diet.
@@Aden_III So those magic pills and paste are the real heros. Imagine making a demi god and he has to spend his time eating 18 meals a day. lol
No one:
Halo 2 Legendary Jackal Sniper: turns around and snipes you in head in less than half a second
Jackals must have some neural dendrite augmentations we never learned about
Veterans who experienced strong or prolonged combat have similar social behaviors as Spartans.
It's hard to connect with people who have not gone through the same.. it's hard to live when you feel like your purpose has been lost.. and look at the american statistics.. we average 22 veteran suicides a day.. and we are average people who typically volunteer around age 18... and the basics of bootcamp are the same that are explained in fall of reach.. everything is structured in your day.. you are groomed to follow orders and act. And our longest bootcamp is 3 months or so.. and this training is prolonged if you sign on for more specialized combat training.. i.e. special forces.. it's no where the length of time that the Spartans go through.
Thank you for.doing this video.. it's kinda cool knowing at some level.. I can relate to Spartans
Your words hit me hard. I am no soldier. I would've but my mom begged me not to leave her. So I didn't. But that's both here more there.
First I'd like to say thank you. Really. I can understand now what it takes. And it means alot that youd serve for your country your ppl. I'm honored.
But I'm no soldier. My friend who is my age is now a veteran. And just like how you described is exactly how he said.
And although I tell him.
" I will never truly understand. I was not there." But I try to listen to him and help him.
He lost alot.alot ee dont speak of. He can get triggered quick. But it comes from a place of love. And protection of him and everyone he loves. He fells abandoned. And lost in a society that writes him off, and all the credentials he was promised didn't all fall through. Friends and family all but gone or moved on from his PTSD
I will never truly understand. No.
But I try. I try to be there for him the best I can. I know it's long but I guess I had to get that off my chest.
Although I may not understand him. i guess I just needed someone to understand why I try to help him. Idk?
@@latenightgaming5057 thank you for trying.. it goes a long way. Though your friend might not say it to where you can understand... having you there is helping him more than you know.
I have friends that will never understand, but they wont hesitate to come help or simply hang out when I ask. There has been a handful of times.. where the simple act of them just hanging out with me has stopped me from doing something stupid.
If you have questions or your friend wants or needs someone to talk to.. I'm a message away.
Final words for now.. no matter how bad it gets dont give up on your friend.. our internal battles can get the better of us from time to time.
@@kindasupersonic7114 thank you I will. I cried when I wrote that and I needed to catch my breath. It's like you read are mines. He does call me at random hrs. For random things. And it's so he doesn't do anything "STUPID".
thank I really do mean it. I hope it all makes since and I dont sound like a dummy. But this all really hit home for me. I just felt like a guy helping a friend. But know I know that we're not alone. And lots of ppl must be going through this
I wanted to join the army partly becase my grandfather's and my uncle's were in the navie and the army but my eyesight wasn't good enough i dident get in, my uncle had a very hard time after he got out of the armed forces
Laughs. 3 months? Try 44 solid weeks
You can hear the love in the commentary.
Set playback speed to x.25 or x.5 to watch from a spartan’s perspective lol
Yeah they see time slower during combat its crazy
Interestinvly enough during moment of extreme stress people tend to actually go into a sort of bullettime
And to hear Installation 00 be drunk
It’s called spartan time it’s slowed down but sped up
I really gotta say thank you for this. I'm no soldier but I got a friend who's my age 31. And hes now a vet. And hes been through so much. I feel bad cause I can never fully understand. But I try to at least listen to him and help him. And give the best advice I can. Its tragic really but I honor the men and women who serve. I see them in a new lite
Your doing the best thing you can for a fellow vet, just someone who will listen means more than you know. Your a good friend,
Emile would be a pretty good example of how much trouble Spartans have socializing with non Spartans.
Can you explain? I don’t know a lot abt Emile.
@@somekid1053 he killed a lot a lot of people
Also are you saying the Master Chief wets his bed?
Probably not, given that the Spartan children were 6 at the age of kidnapping. The Orphans who became the Spartan-IIIs, may be a different story.
Installation00 ok, master chief is lucky.
Maybe 🤔
Installation00 I disagree.
Maybe.
117 views, 17 likes and 7 comments, dayum
Sixty nine likes noicee
Bro playing Halo Infinite with Installation00 would be like the best.
Halo 4 gave us a glimpse of what Chiefs psychology would’ve actually been like and I wish they dove deeper. He would be a very dark and possibly unstable person in real life. A Spartan-II would never be able to integrate with society in a post war, Peace time era. I mean maybe there’s a few anomalies but They would have to live and die in the military because that is all they know. It doesn’t help that they’re basic instincts to procreate and have a family would be nullified. Child soldiers, great warriors for an even greater price: Their humanity.
Great video, man! I’ve literally binged your whole channel, no one else goes as in depth as you do.
This has always really interested me too
They can’t have kids, at least the Spartan II’s they were sterile from the augmentations.
Plastikdoom Idk about that. The augmentations nullified the Spartan-II’s sex drive. They *can* have kids, but their mind has been augmented to where they essentially don’t want to in lack of better terms.
This came from Halo Waypoint, sexual reproduction for a Spartan is not impossible. www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/db05ce78845f4120b062c50816008e5d/topics/can-spartans-have-children/9ba69d0c-82b0-426a-a0df-b045c2f1b614/posts
There are a few Spartan-IIs that actually started a family. Randal from Halo Nightfall and another female Spartan if I’m not mistaken.
@@VanOfSalt its suppressed not nullified. Essentially it be harder to reach their engine sort of speak. Probably will need drugs to get everything in working order.
She said to me once...about being a machine
What are Star Roads and what are they used for and how were they used as a weapon?
Space magic, for space magic, by space magic.
Oh awesome question. I wanna know this too.
Star roads are instantaneous FTL used by the precursors as for it being used as a weapon I'm not sure
Created by neural physics that can only be destroyed by neural physics weapons or neutrinos, giant galactic size tentacles able to ripp planets and stars or Chuck them
Why does this man have only 14k subs? He should at least be up to 150k
No adds? Content like this is rare to come across on UA-cam boys enjoy it 🙏
Why is it that awesome/badass characters or organisations are almost always shit to be a part of: Spartan-IIs
Spartan-IIIs
Darth Vader (the Star Wars novel I'm reading has a chapter dedicated to showing how terrible his suit was)
Jedi Order... etc
Because there is cost for being badass,
Edward Elric: equivalent exchange!
Yah it's just like that.
Even the real world Marine Corps is pretty terrible to be a part of in a lot of ways. Especially Combat deployments
Those novels are awesome and really make Vader such a great character
everything dangerous that doesn't kill you or crack you, might make you more badass.
I guess
5thNovember scrivener not unless your the Doom Slayer.
"You would feel lost as who you were, but simultaneously you would know confidently who you've become". I know how child abuse sets the stage for us, good or bad, mostly bad, for life. Thank you Stefan Molyneux for opening my eyes. The only reason S2s didn't turn out like mass shooters or sociopaths, is because they had each other, and a higher moral moral imperative permeated onto their daily life for years. You're the best man.
... the psychological profile you just gave. Could have been straight from one of my psychological evaluations. The side effects of the trama suffered are at times overwhelming and extremely exhausting. Without the augmentations I have no doubt that Spartans would be volatile. Extremely depressive and suicidal. But they would put a brave face on and hide their pain so they in their own mined did not appear weak to others. I am not a psychologist but I have studied the subject on my own time in the Hope's of finding a way to retrain my brain. So it would function normally. Furthermore I believe Spartans seek a family or rather a purpose for their existence. This Is as you explained part of the training. However also part of the training would have left them wanting to be a part of something greater. Or rather fearing being alone with only themselves. Fearing that their own mined might be their undoing. Fearing that their own doubts might overwhelm their fail safes should they be left with an idle mined.
CmdBlacwolf217.
Psych student here, it seems like a weird thing to point out, but Ive always felt Cortana being a more matriarchal figure to chief than a lover, like a spirit who watched over a warrior god, It was interesting to see chief far more worried and vocal about Cortana in Halo 4, like an Aspergic child who knows something is terribly wrong with his mother but cant process it correctly, and is able to shroud his grief in his duty, Ive always thought it would he a highly interesting arc for chiefs mental health deteriorating, but being able to come back stronger, a strong message for people going through issues themselves
Huh. I always thought it was more of sibling relationship between them as both were bought up to be living weapons of war.
Great work, I’m loving your content. I found you just recently and I’m still looking through your backlog of videos. I appreciate your high level of detail you put into your work. Great stuff!
Indoctrination the Reapers approve.
It's kind of weird, but in a whay they are a family don't you think? With Dr Halsey as the mother, CPO Mendez as the father, and the 75 spartens as the children (and Sargent Johnson as a big brither for anyone who read Silent Storm)
What the Spartans don't realise they're have been having abusive relationships with their peers when training, electric shock batons, constant screaming & yelling etc.
I think that was the point. Give the children a family dynamic to hide the fact that their humanity is being stripped away so they can fight for a people who will never really know or understand their pain. Give them siblings to make them work together and cooperate, but those siblings won't be able to help them with any pains. Keep them broken.
I think the saddest scenes in Halo 4 is when Cortana is trying to explain the concept of rampancy and death to John and he doesn't know how to process it, and you can see him fiddling with his rifle or trying to figure some way how to punch the reaper because he has no other way of coping.
That's the most insidious part of the SPARTAN program to me: that they take a human being and make them somehow more than but also less than human at the same time.
I'm the only who finds it weird that we haven't seen a single case of a spartan seeing himself superior to humans? Like they see themselfs as a different specise, evolved humans, or just post-human
Oh no, they most definitely do. In the books they think about it all the time, they just never speak about it because of their discipline.
@@Aden_III that makes me like the spartans even more. They are superior to us, but they risk their lives all the time to protect us, despite several people treating them like freaks
Being a Spartan is the most amazing thing I would ever want to be.
I love this fact. You Know a lot about halo. And then: boom! You punch me with juicy news. I am shocked. Possitivly. This work is greater then great. This channel deserves more love. My respects
Ok now I know you work for ONI.
I suspected before now I am sure.
You are one of those behind of the Spartan IV program :)
Please return to the subject of psychology in the halo lore I loved this video and I would love to see a actual psychologist who is a halo fan breakdown the characters
Exactly the content I was looking for
Amazing video. An important subject that's barely mentioned.
Well i can say i know some of what they'd have felt, burning veins from IV fluids, and pains from cannulas wiggling in my veins
I'd argue that Spartans are somewhat comparable to Space Marines in the W40k universe as they are seen as a new species (or sub-species).
All I got from this is that there's a high probability that Master Chief wet the bed as a kid
Im inclined to think that Spartans, especially II's would basically never be able to take downtime, would constantly be doing things and had their immune systems not been boosted, would prolly burnout at very young ages. However, as that isnt the case, theyd continue to live wound way too tight for a very long time, and it would be hellish
Its mentioned a few times in various books and games scenes that the spartans all display the tendencies of psychopaths. having a history of dating psychopaths, I can say with accuracy that they feel more deeply than neuronormals, but have such a rigid control over themselves that they appear cold and unfeeling. I see this exact thing in the master chief, especially when it comes to his feelings towards cortana. He knows what his duty is, and most of the time he keeps himself under rigid control so he can keep on fighting, but you can see the feelings are there if you know what to look for. The whole thing about people being broken by the treatment the spartans had is entirely possible, but between their high quality genetics and the mental conditioning discipline they received, I dont think they are as broken as people seem to think they are. And throughout the games and books, the spartan 2 and 3's may not be social butterflies, but they do seem able to hold their own and be functional within their environment. Even if its all just an act, does that really matter? Aren't we all just faking it to some degree?
Fake it every day
I don’t comment often. I found your channel a few days ago and I’ve been binge watching a lot of your videos. This is the most detailed Halo channel I have seen, bar none. I played Halo back in the XBox days (the original) and ir is one of my favorite games of all time.
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No sarcasm but this is exactly how I’ve felt my whole life and have been playing halo since the age of 6 #19
I expect they can turn of the sensors in armor when it comes to "Wounds". Given their operations and the pain they became used to dealing with makes wound pain somewhat less than fight ending.
At 6 years, they are definitely going to have a very different social/ societal outlook. Teenage angst is not going to fly in the least, that period of socialization is totally skipped.
Frankly, knowing what I know about the Spartans, I think that if the Covenant hadn't shown up most of them would have mutinied. John feels pity for the Insurrectionists he kills on his first mission and others, Daisy and her crew, outright tried to escape. Hell, we have one Spartan who deserted and started a family after the Covenant invaded. The Spartans believe they exist for a purpose and that purpose is probably a good deal more than, "stomp on the neck of every two-bit insurgent who looked at mama Parengosky the wrong way."
make a halo mod where everything is un-spartan-ified and all the stuff happens faster.
I want to go through these procedures now
You can be just as damaged living out in the world so I'd still take my chances given what they were given.
It's so obvious if you watch Halo Legends Homecoming and seeing just how fucked Daisy, Ralph and the other escapees were when they escaped.
I’m not sure if it was Kurt or Mendez but somewhere in the Ghosts of Onyx it was said that as the Spartans grow so do their abilities. That means that by now all the left over spartan 2’s and 3’s are leagues above when they first got their augmentations.
That only happened with spartan 3s
CAMRO How? I’m pretty sure it was a general statement, meaning that Spartans as a whole get stronger as they age because their bodies get used to the enhancements. The augmentations has the same end results so there’s no way it’s a spartan III specific trait
@@ch33zyburrito36 spartan 2s are already at their prime right after augmentations. Kurt was only regarding the spartan 3s. Saying that some had the potential to match spartan 2s in time.
CAMRO Hm. Do you have the exact quote? I’ve always been under the impression that he was talking about spartans in general. And also if I remember correctly a single spartan III stood up to kelly in a 1v1 fight literally right after their augmentations were implemented so I don’t see how that would make any sense. Their augmentations have always been said to be equal, not gradually become equal. The only thing spartan III’s were missing was MJOLNIR and the rigorous childhood training
@@ch33zyburrito36 nah bro the spartan 2s have augmentations that are much more invasive and risky. But the payoff is better. I believe the spartan 2s are stronger because of that muscle augment that makes them bigger and heavier than normal humans. But spartan 3s can match their speed. It really depends on the person tho. I remember on operation torpedo no covenant could match the spartan 3s speed. As for the fight between lucy and Kelly. Kelly won because shes the fastest spartan alive and had better armor.
I love this channel in the videos
Spartans 2's and 3's in Halo are a interesting. On the one side they have been kidnapped from their homes from a very young age and turned into soldiers. The time of their where they learn how to be human and social etiquette they were taught how to fight and survive. They're really like Orks from the WarHammer where all they know is how to fight because they were never shown or taught anything else. In conclusion they're gov built and deployable psychopaths. On the other side some officer see Spartans as a piece of equipment (Like a scorpion tank that can walk). Give them an order and they will obey it like a machine.
Spartans III were given a choice as they are orphans.
@@patrickradcliffe3837 how much is it really a choice at 6 years old ?
@@ishtarinanna4478 depends on the recruiter.
Spartans are not psychopaths. Most them are capable of feeling empathy and remorse. It's that their indoctrination prevents them to properly expressing to non-military personnel.
Lore accurately shown the Spartans are not devoid of empathy.
Blue Team mourned for Sam's death.
Blue Team went on a killing spree of army of jackals to avenge the deaths of human colonists.
Master Chief denied ONI access to info about sergeant Johnson's condition that allowed him to be immune the flood. If chief agreed with ONI, Johnson would have been experimented on.
Spartan Jorge comforted a civilian who lost her father and stood his ground against Emile for being insensitive towards her.
@@BloodBoiling thanks for the info, not expecting a reply for a guy 5 years ago eh!
Mentally I couldn't imagine the PTSD and thinking pattern of master chief after all the stuff he's been through imagine one day he's like 100 years old and just sits back and is like (dang I've been through alot of horrible and dangerous situations in my life, I could just picture one day master chief realizes he's defeated everything, the forerunners, covenant, flood, humanity has become God's with master chief at the helm as their strongest fierce protector
Only managed to get 253 RIP
Edit: 253 on phone 170 at pc
You have a great voice mate
This is CRAZY!!!
How do they stack up against the generation after them?
If I remember correctly the spartan 3s had even faster reaction time
Well, as far as I remember, S2's are still superior in everything but coordination training. S3's were trained to work better in groups to offset their lack mjiolnr and leverage their numbers. With the added detail that S2's augmentations are generally MUCH more effective then listed because of their genetics lining up with the augmentations. Basically, S3's are what S2's were projected to be, but S2's augmentations were in some instances twice as effective as expected. And there were a handful of select S3's who just so happened to also have compatible genetics so they are actually close to S2's in capability, Noble 6 for example, was an S3 but snipets of info mark them as being right up there with 117 in terms of battlefield lethality.
The main benefit of the later generations was the reliability of augmentation and a considerably wider pool of compatible candidates. S2's were VERY particularly selected with a stupidly high wash-out rate. S3's were selected in a "close enough" mentality with basically no wash-outs due to augmentations. With S4's, the genetic requirements have gone out the window all-together and the washout rate is even lower then S3's, not to mention the turnaround time from recruitment to field-ready soldier doesn't take a decade.
2s still had spartan time but on average 3s did move faster
I don’t think they did. At all. How did you come up with that?
@@idonthavethemass1227 both spartan 2s and 3s had spartan time which enhanced their perception of time where to them the battlefield seemed to slow down. Not too sure about the 4s tho
@@KillMonger592 But you had claimed Spartan III’s had FASTER reflexes? I agree, Spartan II’s and III’s are almost equal in physical abilities, but III’s have not shown any feats to show that they are faster than II’s. Spartan II’s have 20 millisecond reaction times. Which is fast enough to dodge gun fire. And that’s at the age 14, which at that time they were noted to be “Groggy, Tired, Hurting, And Having trouble walking” Their Reflexes also get faster when they age because of the augmentations. Not to mention it’s noted to be SIGNIFICANTLY faster in combat situations, when the blood is pumping. Not faster, SIGNIFICANTLY faster. They’re literally faster than the human eye can see.
Ah yes the most aggressive behavior of all, bed wetting,a true power move if Id ever seen one.
Spartan-IIs Captain American on even more steroids.
"Engaged" from Halo: Reach is such a badass theme no matter where you hear it. 😎
Part of what you're describing from Spartans you can get from LSD
I’ll accept this to be a spartan
Hey i have nothing to lose soo
Hasn't HiddenXperia studied Psychology or something similar?
Wish they did that reaction time thing in ODST and made it normal human levels! XD
I like how you think the rocket speed is a discrepancy, since reading the books has also made me make up my own head canon. which makes me really afraid of ilsa zane.
as for the kidnapped part, man, lot of kids growing up to 6 then moving somewhere they don't know with either single parents of just relatives they don't even know. then in comes the chores, the different routines, the bullies and other things. it's bizarre to be sure.
If they can see in darkness, why does chief need lights on his helmet? 😂
The same reason you don't wear night vision if you don't have to super vision or not its always better to have full sight in any situation.
you still need light to be able to see in the dark. Even night vision goggles dont work in 0 light environments
Yo I measured the entirety of Noble Team's height and John of course. Damn I always forget just how insanely tall these people are in and out of the armor. It's crazy.
Especially jorge he's fucking huge.
This video doubles down as a very good description of the population of North America.
Explains why plasma bolts are so slow in game. Spartan time
I would love it
Good job 👍
Everyone ask who is Master Chief but no one ask how is Master Chief
What are diffrent ways rn that would increase our reflex speed and eye vision
Cocaine
Be a simulacrum titan and jet pilot like me or consume all the existing drugs, also carrots
Never clicked so fast in my life
That video sequence of the guy "rebooting" the chiefs armor, what is it from?
Halo Infinite Trailer
What game/media was the animation at the end of the video from, I don't recall any AI issues spartan in Mjiolnir MkV/VI being woken up by a beared man?
Halo Infinite "Discover Hope" trailer.
They could really have expanded the chiefs state of mind in Halo 5, instead 343 backtracked on that narrative and created something else, something truly awful. Which I think is incredible sad. Screw that weird plotline they went for, this is very basically how I would have made it;
Borrowing heavily from say battlestar galactica razor & halo odst. Have chief on some spec-ops missions (may or may not be an important task), structured in a linear fashion but open terrain like halo is know for, accompanie him some good ol Odst that brings up that they wanna get in the newest spartan program. Let chief comment on that. Let chief have flashback-sections here & there , set in in reach, chi ceti etc,,,early stuff, maybe even anti-insurrection stuffs and end with something more recent, have it at different intervals when other characters or chiefs brings up certain stuff to other people. Contrast the character of the current chief & the younger where you show the disconnect he currently has when he is alone and where he has his buddies in the earlier years. There you can bring on familiar faces along the way where it actually makes sense instead of shoehorning it down they did in H5.
I think that sounds pretty bad ass but i dont think they would do something like that yet cause 343 is trying to get in a younger crowd and they probably wouldn't do that till they have a few midly good games under their belt before they do something that deep
Considering on reddit and such there were a whole lot of people who were saying it was stupid for Chief to be emotional instead of a "player insert blank slate" it didn't really surprise me that they walked it back.
What is the scene at 11:04 from?
What’s the song at 9:44 ?
I got a reaction time of 350ms.
Spartans: Humanity's most broken...
So my parents just wanted to become a spartan. Mhh now I see some sense in my wretched existence tank you
Halo 4 with its cutscenes involving Halsey covers most of this very well and clearly.
Spartans are basically jacked up Jedi
6'3", both me and my brother. I played nearly all sports, but not skiing or rugby. I Play 4 instruments, my IQ is 165 my fields of study are Electronics, Business Administration, and Agriculture! Failure is not an option! Served in the Army for 6 years, in Reconnaissance and Satellite Communications.
I liked to think they would have chosen someone like me for the Spartan Program!
Hell I even had dreams about being in space in armor when I as a little kid at the age of 6. I still dream of having 5 ships, that I command. Our inheritance is space!
Same here, started the training dreams at age 6, started missions around 13 which stopped around 25. Now I'm in some command structure. Been dreaming a lot there lately. I've actually never played the game, I found this researching the dreams.
Will Golightly I never played it either, read a few books, and watches the movies and cinematics from the gameplay. Knowing the history of these stories, how humanity was nearly wiped out by the Forerunners, that at some point in time, thousands of years ago humans were nearly equal to them in technology, mentally and physically. would drive those of us tasked to protect humanity from being wiped out. And it should push us to strive to be better and more then what we are at the moment, are there actually limits, at the time maybe, but given time, knowledge, and an ever increase expansion into the unknown gaining old lost and new technologies, who knows what mankind would become, what we could ascend too!
Humans have a very bright future, just as long as we leave the cradle of Earth! We can not remain toddlers forever!
@@thesurvivalist. I feel some of us have the "geas" of those old humans as I've seen them in my dreams, been on their ships, etc.
Our story is just beginning. The sleeper must awaken ;)
What game or movie is that last clip from?
What was that last fotage from?
reaction time 281 ms is that ok?
So what about ODST is he perceiving those rockets as slow because rookie is secretly augmented?🤔
Search for the truth got me more interested in the lore of the Spartans pretty crazy listen.
So it's better than my mental state after breaking up with ras?
If you’re looking for a psychologist who is a Halo fan, try hitting up HiddenXperia i’m pretty sure he mentioned having a psychology degree in one of his videos. Also it would be awesome to have you guys collab :p you’re both my favourite channels
I wonder how fast Spartan-III and Spartan-IV's reaction times are???
They're not faster or stronger than S-IIs in full kit. But they ARE better in large groups when given a single objective. S-IIIs were designed to be suicide squads, trained for one HUGE mission and considered expendable. S-IVs were basically special forces under the Spartan branch of ONI.
But S-IIs operated in all theaters, under all forms of command, in any combat environment. They had a very wide scope of operations. S-IIs were given far more leeway in their orders as well because every single one of them received such and extensive education including cross-training on all UNSC equipment. Even the "dumbest" S-II (if there is even such a thing) would have an scientific, philosophical, and martial intellect rivaling that of any top Naval Academy graduate.
The smartest and fastest could (and did) out-think, outfight, outmaneuver, and outrun everybody else. Kelly, theoretically, could sprint at speeds up to 70mph and run at a sustained pace of 40-45mph. I think her reaction time with adrenaline was clocked at well under 15 milliseconds. Linda is a dead shot at 2,000 meters. John is capable of lifting several TONS in armor, and he's not even the strongest S-II. A barely-in-their-teens squad, even before their power armor, managed to take prisoner the head of an entire insurgency.
Man. I feel like you describe me. I was born with an issue, and spent time alone in hospital in city, away from parents in country town. I have depression and high function autism. I was very introverted and never mixed well. I'm much more sociable and confident now in my 40's. Parents were and are very supportive. Im athletic, and still injury free despite lifting heavy at gym. I wish i had eye augments as i use glasses. I'm more than most 47 yr olds but not a SPARTAN.
Ha. Reading my own comment at 51.
So is that the halo ring from halo wars 2?
SHIT That's why halo always felt kind of slow. You're playing with a slight increase in perception time. That's actually really funky, I like it. I wonder if that's intended.
160 ms not bad
Does anybody know how the spartan 2s viewed halsey
Yeah, alright, I like this
Reaction time of 293 ms!
Bring on the augments, I already live in constant pain.
"Aggressive behaviors, such as bedwetting." What are you smoking?