I think average American Hip Hop knuckleheads just aren't very open minded. I was born and raised in the US and I've always loved Grime and can understand their rappers well. Always just looked at it like it was something different and I get to learn a little something about the game overseas over some futuristic sounding beats
Accents are a small piece of the bigger problem for Americans. They're simply ignorant to most cultures and countries outside of the US. I could name a few places in the world most Americans couldn't point to on a map. But, it's also because they are unquestionably the leaders in crafting pop culture and media, so it's like a kid being born rich not understanding or being as empathetic towards a poor one. Not completely their fault. The rest of the world however has been brought up to understand US culture as it's all we see in movies, music, and media. We don't have to work as hard to get them because we're force fed the American way of life. That being said I'm sorry to say, many Americans are simply not as intelligent as most of the worlds population (blame your government) which breeds an innate ignorance that translates to the rest of the world as 'Team America, fuck yeah!!' And many Americans unfortunately do nothing to disprove this notion.
Its a regional thing tho.. Its like saying all britons are dumb cokneys or chav liverpoolians. California,NYC and the Pacific North West are Americas best states and most educated and altough we weren't accepting of Grime, Dizzy Rascal was getting play here in LA in the early 2000s. Yes most of the US does compromise of Conservative trailer park Chavs.. Texas,Gerogia,Florida, the southern regions are all ignorant.
Another brilliant example of the type of people I described when talking about Americans less intelligent. I already volunteered that the US undoubtedly leads the world in entertainment, I don't know why you're arguing a point that we technically agree on. Now here's the but, and it's a big one. Freedom? America? Really? Out of interest how old are you?
+Riak is my hero . I didn't say all, don't take it personally. I've heard many Europeans and Australians say that. Google it, compared to other countries the Americans really don't travel that much. Apparently it's more than had of Americans don't have passports, they are well know for not being well travelled people. An American said to my Australian friend when she was out there "you speak great English for an Australian" the American didn't even realise she spoke English as her first language, no joke!
+Riak is my hero . I'm not sure what your point is about it being an American channel, well you speak and write English, so what? Both points are irrelevant.
British Grime and Hip Hop artists need to stop trying to "break into America" and just focus on putting out good music and building an audience where there at. If the music is good you get more listeners across the globe look how K-Pop has so popular over the years.
I'm black british. That is never going to happen unfortunately, the only way for UK grime/hip hop artists to get global is to head to the states. Actors alike. Also about K-Pop we are talking Apples and Oranges here
Tev (Soulitary) So its okay for Americans to blow up in the UK. UK rappers have way more potentiel than some of these American dudes like wayne and shit. Just look on youtube Cashtastic Behind Barz. That freestyle is lit.
The thing is we have something everyone likes here, Americans can’t catch on. I’ve listened to loads of American rap aswell as English and honestly English (certain artists) are up there with the best
They aren't used to it. Its like a Scottish artist making reggae, unless you listen to it all the time, it's gonna sound foreign unless you grew up on Scottish reggae
Maybe Jodie Connor cus sovereign was from early still Jodie Connor was singer to in reference to the conversation they were having about the artist being a singer
I think the problem is because americans are raised in a country akin to korea whereby they believe they are the only country that matters. Far from cultured or diverse. Sold a dream via the media by way of conditioning. They feel insecure by the thought of new things and act aggressively if you try introduce them to something new. They live only to recognise other cultures by stereotypes and are generally very narrow minded. Its not their fault, they were conditioned since birth by corporate america to be this way, i feel sorry for them. Now they're going to have donald trump as president too, there is no hope
'The land of the free' is ironic when they live in a police state where cops shoot innocent people monthly. Statistics show that most of them are obese and they are suffering due to excessive consumerism. The hoods/ projects are jails whereby they just kill eachother. They need to travel the world then have an opinion
Have you been to America? Or are you just going off what you hear and read on social media? Are place is the most diverse in the whole world I can literally walk for a couple minutes and be on a street where's there's mostly Asian and Chinese population my college is literally 35% foreign exchange students but hey where not cultured or diverse enough lmao you talk about us being insecure and sold a dream but it looks like someone has been feeding you pretty jealous things about America I'm sorry you can't enjoy this wonderful country because your too scared of our cops shooting you lmao good cop out.
It's the accent. That's it. If you don't have a neutral or regional US accent, it won't work. That's why Iggy sounds like Nicole Kidman in interviews and raps like Gangsta Boo in songs.
Accents are a small piece of the bigger problem for Americans. They're simply ignorant to most cultures and countries outside of the US. I could name a few places in the world most Americans couldn't point to on a map. But, it's also because they are unquestionably the leaders in crafting pop culture and media, so it's like a kid being born rich not understanding or being as empathetic towards a poor one. Not completely their fault. The rest of the world however have been brought up to understand US culture as its all we see in movies, music, and media. We don't have to work as hard to get them because we're force fed the American way of life. That being said I'm sorry to say, many Americans are simply not as intelligent as most of the worlds population (blame your government) which breeds an innate ignorance that translates to the rest of the world as 'Team America, fuck yeah!!' And many Americans unfortunately do nothing to disprove this notion.
It's crazy because Ive been fucking with grime since the early lord of the mic days the first song I ever heard was tynchy stryder-underground and its crazy that its taken people this long to figure it out.(Im American btw and I feel like some UK MCs could body most US top 5s.)
***** how you know this bruh?? His music ain't even worldwide he ain't known in London if an artist ain't doing shows over seas then he ain't shit simple
European hip hop for the longest have taken to The US deep underground scene. The most basic elements of backpack etc. We haven't really seen it evolve. Most of it melding with electronic music. Didn't really fit into the American scene, especially during the reign of the South. Not until US hip hop stopped working about which region you were from and trading sounds, we started to tearing down boarders did Canada stand a chance at being more mainstream in hip hop via Drake. UK might get its turn but I doubt mainstream. Skepta is ringing in the streets with some people. Dizzy been making his way through the underground but I just think there is a language barrier a bit more advanced that a Guy Ritchie movie.
Grime artists themselves say it's not hip hop. So if they blow up here it will probably be through edm. If not a big mainstream edm artist, then through a black genre like footwork or jersey club
I'm 16 in England and a big grime fan but there's an evolution of grime for my generation for example the type of grime we listen to and prefer is different to what what the original grime fans prefer for example guys I know that are like 19+ that listen to grime don't necessarily like the new stuff or the guys that are the face of grime at the moment.
Been listening to the whole UK scene since mid to late 2000s when hardly anyone even at home was fucking with it outside London and I get such a feeling of pride living in NZ when I hear a UK artist come on radio or blasting from a passing car.. don't sweat it rest of the world will cotton on in time!!!!
i agree, but most Americans would simply not listen or pay uk rap any attention. which is ok lmao, the U.K. rap scene has never begged the US for attention. then you get those dumbfuck pricks like Azealia Banks talking the most about what she doesn't understand
At the time. When Drake came into the game. He was under Lil Wayne who at the time was "The Best Rapper Alive". That allowed Drake to get on tracks with other people that got his name around and he also had big radio hits. And now that the Young Money thing is done Drake stays big by 1. Hopping on every new artist that's popping. 2. Expanding his projects. (Deals with sprite, Endorsing the Raptors, beefing with Meek, and all the drama he has when it comes to the girls he's with like [Rihanna and Serena Williams] Drake is staying relevant. And he has also brought a new wave of artist from Toronto. At the end of the day its about business and businesses strive off of the connections you've made.
exactly drake said this himself "without degrassi I wouldn't have met Wayne, and my career wouldn't be as grand". he would probably have a career like Cole and Kendrick, meaning a strong fan base but not a pop star
1. Drake had Cash Money co-signs (a major U.S. label) 2. Slick Rick had Def Jam co-signs (a major U.S. label) 3. To thrive on foreign turf u gotta have connections! That simple
Needs more awareness to get them used to the UK culture like films, TV shows and documentaries being broadcasted on mainstream like top boy being on Netflix and these interviews is a start towards that direction!
no grime album will ever touch boy in da corner, because no other grime album will ever be as organic, written by a 16 year old teen in bow e3 going and anyone from the manor knows at the age of 16-19 you are in the thick of the hood life learning the ways and getting set in your own ways, that album captured everything i was going through growing up in london, its untouchable
I'm not a big Dizzee guy, but I do love when it breaks it down like this. I'm Canadian, been listening to this, forum posting since 2004. Ukflavas big up! Toronto def gets it.
UK rappers didn't catch on here because they don't know what tempo and rhythm are. UK rappers always sound like they're trying to fit the most words they can where they clearly won't fit. It sounds mediocre. It's horrible. Rap to the beat.
Yeah, well, I remember "Fix Up Look Sharp" came out and that's what I thought UK rap is. Maybe y'all shoulda done a better job exposing the US to your rap.
QuanSai we dont give a fuck if you like it its english music for english people if you want to see uk rap not grime check big frizzle or logic or lowkey
UK Grime scene doesn't need America to cosign it, the sooner the scene realises that the better off it will be. Look at what Skepta is doing ever since he stopped caring what people think, other artists should have that same attitude.
I literally hate people like you. people that use the word grime make me cringe. All these white skepta dickriderss ahh even writing this comment j makes me cringe
the first hip hop artist i listened to were Immortal Tech and FOUR OWLS, i don't know why my homies in cali (and america) don't fucks with it, DJ premier fuks with it and he knows lol
UK Rap is only getting bigger and bigger, the top UK rappers like Nines can get over a two million views easy now. Eventually UK Rap will blow in America organically, you can't force
+Kevin Delaney don't worry it will it won't be to the capacity like everyone thinks it will but you will soon see uk artist charting late 2017 and 2018 at the latest
smh, typical. never wanting to give Americans credit for any thing. The condescendingly saying "do your research". That's the igornant british way. James Brown and Jocko Henderson was rapping before Kool Herc. DO YOUR RESEARCH
Talking about grime not rap: but annoys me when people say US are wet for not taking in Grime artists, but London (arguably the hub of grime) won't even take in grime from north. grime has been thriving there for years, it never died there and they're actually sick,
Londoners are just as myopic as the US tbh. Plently of Londoners make fun of non-Londoner accents and claim they can't understand anyone from up North. Like Dizzee said, the US isn't just NY and LA - middle America is huge. I don't see how Grime music will ever crack the US market fully.
+Rich8927 BRUH lmao I dead ass know more rappers on Mars than I do rappers from Britain! Who the fuck even are they?? They smoking moon rocks if they think they gonna get love in America
+squrdwurd the dank XI you aren't supposed to rate anybody from America because it's not made for British people we on our sippin lean popping xans and perks, shooting cops and opps and blooding and cripping... It's not made for British people
sick interview. I will say this though, they're trying to figure out why uk grime artists/rap artists haven't blown up like drake and i think the answer is obvious?? drake is more of an rnb artist, his music appeals to a much wider audience because its more inviting to more demographics. grime is just more underground and imo you have to have a real ear and passion for rap to understand the grime scene. i guarantee you will find people who dislike rap but like artists like drake, it wouldn't be the same the other way round innit
think about it grime has been around since 2001 that's 15 years old school people are like dizzee, Wiley, so solid crew, lethal, etc so we are there...but those old school guys are still around still making music in the 90s grandmaster flash, whodini, big daddy Kane had disappeared and had stopped making music
Huge MF DOOM fan, I got onto some UK rap. I think the problem isn't the accent because I loved 4 Owls ft Premier, I think the issue is UK often sounds like it's behind the game. At times it sounds like an emulation of 90's culture. Honestly I think it will be insanely difficult for a UK rapper to match the global appeal of an American rapper due to people thinking the authenticity of the music and culture comes from NY, or Dirty South or West Coast. But if someone were to just do commercial pop music like Drake, that could be the difference
Yes but at the same time, He has a formula that works. His lyricism and complexity has found a broad audience. No hes not in Drake's lane, but his lane is dope enough. Hes not emulating or mimicking a genre. Thats kind of how UK rap sounds, like they are mimicking. That said, that "Dont Waste My Time" LITTTT!! 4 Owls, Bishop Nehruvian DOOM, ive heard some really good stuff. The accent and slang barrier also slows the progression into the North American Market.
i respect the UK and their black culture over there... just sonically haven't heard a UK hiphop artist I'd consistently check for. however, outside of hiphop there is many i fk wit
If you want to listen to decent UK hip hop, check out: Split prophets, Buggsy, Jam Baxter, Lee Scott, Jehst, Roots Manuva, Rodney P, Life Mc, Klashnekoff, Dabbla, Foreign beggars, Chester P, Little Simz, Hawk house.... just to name a few
UK Grime is not gonna break in America. To understand the scene you have to understand where it came from. It’s not hip hop, only inspired by it. US never caught on any of those genres that the scene grew out from, like UK garage, drum n bass, jungle etc so it’s too “alien” for them.
The music genre Grime is the predecessor to UK Drill, which has broken the states, only problem is, US rappers have taken the UK sound & tried to make it their own, packaging it as "Brooklyn Drill" to appeal to American audiences - which is funny cause this so-called "Brooklyn Drill" is just instrumentals made by UK Producers.
The thing is UK grime is as spiritually/ musically as akin to a black version of UK punk as it is hip hop. It's often pretty unsophisticated, demo -like stuff with rapping skills that often have limited variation / patterns within the grime rhythm patterns. Frankly, it's going to take a genuine star WITH a musical advancement on the typical grime formula to really break through!
How many of yall can say you dropped a gold standard grime album fully produced and written by you at the age of 17
Not many!
Im about to at the age of 20. stay tuned.
PEOPLELOVEGROOVYJ I'll be checking for you.
+IRON5 bless 🙏🏾
whats " gold standard grime "
Another sick interview! Very impressed with Vlads understanding of our scene over here
man like Lordieeee
Lordie ya get me
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Yeah but he doesn't know who JME is or BBK.. good joke
We need more uk artist on this vlad, I have been watching for years. great interview again
I think average American Hip Hop knuckleheads just aren't very open minded. I was born and raised in the US and I've always loved Grime and can understand their rappers well. Always just looked at it like it was something different and I get to learn a little something about the game overseas over some futuristic sounding beats
grime*
+ Chris Masamune same here. Which artist do you listen to?
exactly
+Lunar Orbit You do know the trap sound that's popular here is a water down version of Grime Music right?
***** What part of watered down didn't you understand???
Accents are a small piece of the bigger problem for Americans. They're simply ignorant to most cultures and countries outside of the US. I could name a few places in the world most Americans couldn't point to on a map. But, it's also because they are unquestionably the leaders in crafting pop culture and media, so it's like a kid being born rich not understanding or being as empathetic towards a poor one. Not completely their fault. The rest of the world however has been brought up to understand US culture as it's all we see in movies, music, and media. We don't have to work as hard to get them because we're force fed the American way of life. That being said I'm sorry to say, many Americans are simply not as intelligent as most of the worlds population (blame your government) which breeds an innate ignorance that translates to the rest of the world as 'Team America, fuck yeah!!' And many Americans unfortunately do nothing to disprove this notion.
Excellent comment. I wish I could articulate this point as good as you did.
Its a regional thing tho.. Its like saying all britons are dumb cokneys or chav liverpoolians.
California,NYC and the Pacific North West are Americas best states and most educated and altough we weren't accepting of Grime, Dizzy Rascal was getting play here in LA in the early 2000s.
Yes most of the US does compromise of Conservative trailer park Chavs..
Texas,Gerogia,Florida, the southern regions are all ignorant.
very true they are big headed and only care about themselves, which is weird because there country is pretty fucked up atm
Another brilliant example of the type of people I described when talking about Americans less intelligent. I already volunteered that the US undoubtedly leads the world in entertainment, I don't know why you're arguing a point that we technically agree on. Now here's the but, and it's a big one. Freedom? America? Really? Out of interest how old are you?
+Tev (Soulitary) Thanks. I like 'Soulitary'. Smart.
UK artist don't need the States to blow up!
rofl the US is the center for pop culture, if you don't blow up here then you ain't blowing up at all
+clusterfuck3 If you say so
+IRON5 it's a fact. Hell US is the center of the entire entertainment industry.
+clusterfuck3 False theirs plenty of artist that are legends in their countries that never touch the States.
+IRON5 mkay so just because there's people who do it big other places doesn't mean the US is the epicenter of entertainment. mkay you right I'm wrong
Apparently most Americans don't even have pass ports so don't understand the outside world sometimes.
+Riak is my hero . I didn't say all, don't take it personally. I've heard many Europeans and Australians say that. Google it, compared to other countries the Americans really don't travel that much. Apparently it's more than had of Americans don't have passports, they are well know for not being well travelled people. An American said to my Australian friend when she was out there "you speak great English for an Australian" the American didn't even realise she spoke English as her first language, no joke!
+Riak is my hero . I'm not sure what your point is about it being an American channel, well you speak and write English, so what? Both points are irrelevant.
I think Boy In Da Corner will never be beat, the best grime mixtape/album ever. Made in the Manor by Kano is second.
Home sweet home by kano is second*
Street Crime UK by Big H is the best, actually
street crime uk is up there a classic for sure
British Grime and Hip Hop artists need to stop trying to "break into America" and just focus on putting out good music and building an audience where there at. If the music is good you get more listeners across the globe look how K-Pop has so popular over the years.
I'm black british. That is never going to happen unfortunately, the only way for UK grime/hip hop artists to get global is to head to the states. Actors alike. Also about K-Pop we are talking Apples and Oranges here
Actors I can understand but when it comes to music I don't think so. Why do we need to go to the US to get a global audience?
+Tev (Soulitary) you can't go to the us same as German rap can't or Timbuktu rap can't because we ain't interested
Tev (Soulitary) So its okay for Americans to blow up in the UK. UK rappers have way more potentiel than some of these American dudes like wayne and shit. Just look on youtube Cashtastic Behind Barz. That freestyle is lit.
The thing is we have something everyone likes here, Americans can’t catch on. I’ve listened to loads of American rap aswell as English and honestly English (certain artists) are up there with the best
lmao. "because nobody knows what the fuck I'm saying". haha. Rascal is the best.
They aren't used to it. Its like a Scottish artist making reggae, unless you listen to it all the time, it's gonna sound foreign unless you grew up on Scottish reggae
do you make scottish reggae lol
+senor saliva I hope not haha
Good point.
senor saliva lol watch when we take over. The Scottish reggae scene is getting big in Timbuktu
Does Scottish reggae exist ? Lol I can imagine it now 😂😂😂
I think he was talking about Lady Sovereign
Yeah
Maybe Jodie Connor cus sovereign was from early still Jodie Connor was singer to in reference to the conversation they were having about the artist being a singer
i think he was talking about M.I.A.
i think lady sov too. she signed with a big name and had hype
Yea..plus she had a pretty big hit in the states.
UK needs to forget about the USA they are different in a good way
Agree with you g, Hiphop is universal while only UK g's understand grime
think Vlad was talking about, lady sovereign
truu
nah M.I.A OBVIOUSLY!!!
Time Traveler nah defo wasnt on about M.I.A
Well what a gwan vlad man tinks?
MIA was more of a US-NY(internet) thing ,she was never big in the UK until after paper planes.
My home town Brixton💯
I think the problem is because americans are raised in a country akin to korea whereby they believe they are the only country that matters. Far from cultured or diverse. Sold a dream via the media by way of conditioning. They feel insecure by the thought of new things and act aggressively if you try introduce them to something new. They live only to recognise other cultures by stereotypes and are generally very narrow minded. Its not their fault, they were conditioned since birth by corporate america to be this way, i feel sorry for them. Now they're going to have donald trump as president too, there is no hope
'The land of the free' is ironic when they live in a police state where cops shoot innocent people monthly. Statistics show that most of them are obese and they are suffering due to excessive consumerism. The hoods/ projects are jails whereby they just kill eachother. They need to travel the world then have an opinion
Have you been to America? Or are you just going off what you hear and read on social media? Are place is the most diverse in the whole world I can literally walk for a couple minutes and be on a street where's there's mostly Asian and Chinese population my college is literally 35% foreign exchange students but hey where not cultured or diverse enough lmao you talk about us being insecure and sold a dream but it looks like someone has been feeding you pretty jealous things about America I'm sorry you can't enjoy this wonderful country because your too scared of our cops shooting you lmao good cop out.
Bryan Smith ive been to America multiple times my stepdad is from the bronx and hes right. Americas cut off from the world its like saudi arabia
+Ava Lawrence if you think America is like Saudi Arabia then you probably need to read some more.
I agree. Americans are very closed minded
It's the accent. That's it. If you don't have a neutral or regional US accent, it won't work. That's why Iggy sounds like Nicole Kidman in interviews and raps like Gangsta Boo in songs.
very true.
Accents are a small piece of the bigger problem for Americans. They're simply ignorant to most cultures and countries outside of the US. I could name a few places in the world most Americans couldn't point to on a map. But, it's also because they are unquestionably the leaders in crafting pop culture and media, so it's like a kid being born rich not understanding or being as empathetic towards a poor one. Not completely their fault. The rest of the world however have been brought up to understand US culture as its all we see in movies, music, and media. We don't have to work as hard to get them because we're force fed the American way of life. That being said I'm sorry to say, many Americans are simply not as intelligent as most of the worlds population (blame your government) which breeds an innate ignorance that translates to the rest of the world as 'Team America, fuck yeah!!' And many Americans unfortunately do nothing to disprove this notion.
therealist33777 🙄 Are you going to keep repeating the same Comments over and over again.
😂😅😂 @@rosalinacv1996
The sound... IMO the American accent just sounds smoother then the UK accent when it comes to flowing on a beat.
If you think that listen to wretch 32s fire in the booth it's 🔥🔥🔥
true and plus i hate grime
Look i make exceptions so i like Shotty Horror but thats about it..
British rap will never be accepted here even in this day and age when rap is wack
Except for Wiley has one of the best flows I've ever heard
Lil Wayne brought out Drake under his wing to the us I think that's why he made it
facts
Why isnt K Coke blown up? He was signed under Jay-z SMH man
prison
Yh true but Drake had massive hype b4 he got signed
Nicky Vengeance no he didn't!
Brother Dizzee Rascal is a legend
Much love my brother always
i was at that Nas gig...had only been in london for 8 days. shat myself. :)
Love how straight forward he is being, DIZZEE THE MAN
It's crazy because Ive been fucking with grime since the early lord of the mic days the first song I ever heard was tynchy stryder-underground and its crazy that its taken people this long to figure it out.(Im American btw and I feel like some UK MCs could body most US top 5s.)
Weltall name those top 5 rappers from America they can body?
"skepter" omg
Lol I noticed that too, even after Dizzee mentioned his name at least twice
I say the same tbh
lmao
only ppl with British accents sometimes say it like that, but I think Vlad just doesn't know lol
reci im brale!
Tbh the underground uk rappers are probably the most relevant in London
It's good to see Dizzee on a platofrm like this and hear these stories from him!
I'm fan of Drake, i'm fan of the idea of Drake loool
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Hopsin ain't shit never did nothing for hiphop
Don Trump W
+stacey jones
He's a millionaire tho. Somebody listen to his shit lol
***** how you know this bruh?? His music ain't even worldwide he ain't known in London if an artist ain't doing shows over seas then he ain't shit simple
Grimes alive in New Zealand!!!
and in europe and japan look on sbtv they just put up a japanese grime set on a few days ago
European hip hop for the longest have taken to The US deep underground scene. The most basic elements of backpack etc. We haven't really seen it evolve. Most of it melding with electronic music. Didn't really fit into the American scene, especially during the reign of the South. Not until US hip hop stopped working about which region you were from and trading sounds, we started to tearing down boarders did Canada stand a chance at being more mainstream in hip hop via Drake. UK might get its turn but I doubt mainstream. Skepta is ringing in the streets with some people. Dizzy been making his way through the underground but I just think there is a language barrier a bit more advanced that a Guy Ritchie movie.
Grime like there talking about is different to uk/european hip-hop...
MF DOOM is from the UK
slick rick really didnt rap like an american.u aint hear his accent?
I can't name one rapper from London
M.I.A.
+Viktor Cheng that's not a rapper😂😂😂😂
+Viktor Cheng wtf
crumpets skepter
You've just watched one lol
Grime artists themselves say it's not hip hop. So if they blow up here it will probably be through edm. If not a big mainstream edm artist, then through a black genre like footwork or jersey club
lol dont listen to them geime is hip hop
+TiringBard93 grime isnt hiphop in any way shape or form
123mambo321 loooool fr tho
Not even US rappers reaching Drake status in the US atm. smh
Drakes pretty much American his fathers side is from Memphis
JOE GRIZZLEY my father from America am I American two, fuck no of course not
JOE GRIZZLEY He's not american.
I'm 16 in England and a big grime fan but there's an evolution of grime for my generation for example the type of grime we listen to and prefer is different to what what the original grime fans prefer for example guys I know that are like 19+ that listen to grime don't necessarily like the new stuff or the guys that are the face of grime at the moment.
he's been wearing the same outfit for months now 🐸☕
Been listening to the whole UK scene since mid to late 2000s when hardly anyone even at home was fucking with it outside London and I get such a feeling of pride living in NZ when I hear a UK artist come on radio or blasting from a passing car.. don't sweat it rest of the world will cotton on in time!!!!
I get you I'm from the UK drake got it but the rest still trailing UK rap still dominant wagwam
I wanna travel to england
shout out Lady Lashur
The accent and culture. Turns off a lot of hip hop listener's not used to it.
i agree, but most Americans would simply not listen or pay uk rap any attention. which is ok lmao, the U.K. rap scene has never begged the US for attention. then you get those dumbfuck pricks like Azealia Banks talking the most about what she doesn't understand
damnn... been a long tine since he finally mentioned wiley in something
I'm a fan of the idea of UK drake
😂
It's the accent, but like he said it could be argued that if they present it in a certain way UK rappers could make it in the US.
Two-phousand and phree
Two phousand and slew
For me it's the accent and knowing their culture is pretty much based on the usa.
tea and crumpets. same old jokes! classic!
It's the accent plain and simple. Just doesn't sound right
yup, thats how i feel tbh
That shit Dizzee said about Worldstar comments disrespecting the UK is the realest talk - it's been that way for YEARS!
Why does dizzee look like he should be standing in madame tussauds
Easy Tech Parts LTD this comment had me fucking dead 😂😂😂😂😂
At the time. When Drake came into the game. He was under Lil Wayne who at the time was "The Best Rapper Alive". That allowed Drake to get on tracks with other people that got his name around and he also had big radio hits. And now that the Young Money thing is done Drake stays big by 1. Hopping on every new artist that's popping. 2. Expanding his projects. (Deals with sprite, Endorsing the Raptors, beefing with Meek, and all the drama he has when it comes to the girls he's with like [Rihanna and Serena Williams] Drake is staying relevant. And he has also brought a new wave of artist from Toronto. At the end of the day its about business and businesses strive off of the connections you've made.
Yep, I agree. Networking can take you a long way.
Yep. Perfect example of, its not about what you know its about who you know
exactly
drake said this himself
"without degrassi I wouldn't have met Wayne, and my career wouldn't be as grand".
he would probably have a career like Cole and Kendrick, meaning a strong fan base but not a pop star
you know your career is over when Vlad interviews you
I think Vlad was thinking about Lady Souvern in the first minute of the video who was supposed to be the next big thing.
Oi m8 how are you gonna talk about British hip hop without mentioning smithy boy and da crew?
Another good interview!!!
1. Drake had Cash Money co-signs (a major U.S. label)
2. Slick Rick had Def Jam co-signs (a major U.S. label)
3. To thrive on foreign turf u gotta have connections! That simple
chance and joey..... not impossible but not common
Needs more awareness to get them used to the UK culture like films, TV shows and documentaries being broadcasted on mainstream like top boy being on Netflix and these interviews is a start towards that direction!
A English accent doesn't sound right, when it comes to rap that's why UK rappers will never be big in the US. Let's keep it 100
so true and this is coming from someone living in the uk
They dont need to be big in the US though.
They do unless they wanna be stuck in little ass England lmao
+Kevin Delaney pretty dead statement considering how much influence our country has on the world. Its tiny but we dictate a lot
booba is a french rapper, and he`s richer than most american rappers
no grime album will ever touch boy in da corner, because no other grime album will ever be as organic, written by a 16 year old teen in bow e3 going and anyone from the manor knows at the age of 16-19 you are in the thick of the hood life learning the ways and getting set in your own ways, that album captured everything i was going through growing up in london, its untouchable
If you go on drakes spotify you see london has the most listeners , nuff said.
How do you check that?
Go to drakes page on spotify and scroll down, it has a list of the top 5 location of listeners
I'm not a big Dizzee guy, but I do love when it breaks it down like this. I'm Canadian, been listening to this, forum posting since 2004. Ukflavas big up!
Toronto def gets it.
UK rappers didn't catch on here because they don't know what tempo and rhythm are. UK rappers always sound like they're trying to fit the most words they can where they clearly won't fit. It sounds mediocre. It's horrible. Rap to the beat.
thats grime ur talking bout. uk rap is something totally different.
Yeah, well, I remember "Fix Up Look Sharp" came out and that's what I thought UK rap is. Maybe y'all shoulda done a better job exposing the US to your rap.
QuanSai we dont give a fuck if you like it its english music for english people
if you want to see uk rap not grime check big frizzle or logic or lowkey
Not into uk hip hop. But i find it very entertaining to listen to this guy
*Grime get it right
***** no
H.T JR So hip hop dont excist in Uk. ? Grime is just a subgenre of Hip hop right.
Avatar Aang oh it does and it is, depending on which artists we are referring to.
H.T JR Wasnt refering to someone. Just saying i'm not really into uk hip hop. But i enjoy listening to this guy. Seems like an intelligent fellow
Americans are just too close minded.
UK Grime scene doesn't need America to cosign it, the sooner the scene realises that the better off it will be. Look at what Skepta is doing ever since he stopped caring what people think, other artists should have that same attitude.
I literally hate people like you. people that use the word grime make me cringe. All these white skepta dickriderss ahh even writing this comment j makes me cringe
Yeah keep in Britain we ain't fucking with it, I'm sure it's easy to sell records in England anway
I beg you americans stop only listening to skepta and judging uk music, way better people than skepta you just dont know the scene
I remember the Clash song and to now hear that Nas story
even he knows project pat and 36 started trap!
the fuck you talking about? Shawty Redd started it in 2005 together with Young Jeezy and Gucci Mane
+Pretty Good go listen to 36 mafia early production and you will understand why they are one of the founders of trap
+Pretty Good nigga, listen to when the smoke clears album and you'll see
+NaughtyGawd he just a young ass nigga.smh probably a damn 15 year old
cortez smith UGK are also one of the pioneers of trap music
the first hip hop artist i listened to were Immortal Tech and FOUR OWLS, i don't know why my homies in cali (and america) don't fucks with it, DJ premier fuks with it and he knows lol
UK rappers just don't make good lyrics and their accent sets off the flow of trying to manifest with the beat.
i agree with u and i live in the UK
listen to Akala
***** who's that.
Yoooo you know what manifest means brutha?
Yes but if that wasn't a good word to convey my comment then you can just replace it with "fit well"
UK Rap is only getting bigger and bigger, the top UK rappers like Nines can get over a two million views easy now. Eventually UK Rap will blow in America organically, you can't force
No it won't sorry to burst your British bubble
+Kevin Delaney don't worry it will it won't be to the capacity like everyone thinks it will but you will soon see uk artist charting late 2017 and 2018 at the latest
+jesse williams nah that shit getting no play in America we just don't want to hear that bs
Na you stick to your generic unoriginal shit cah grimes to good for you man
Rap originated in Jamaica. Do your research.
smh, typical. never wanting to give Americans credit for any thing. The condescendingly saying "do your research". That's the igornant british way. James Brown and Jocko Henderson was rapping before Kool Herc. DO YOUR RESEARCH
That's like saying house music originated in Europe, it doesn't make any sense.
what are you talking about it was new york
Rap came from the greatest country on earth American
+marcus antonio a guy came from Jamaica and started rap in NY do the research
Big up dizzee massive inspiration for me brap
Lmao most US rappers don't reach Drake status in America and it doesn't help that UK rappers don't have rhythm and can't rap to the beat
What are you talking about? you've clearly never heard UK rap to say that bullshit.
i heard it and wasn't impressed
i know its a bit late but youre so wrong, thats our thing
you probs watched some old mcing
Talking about grime not rap: but annoys me when people say US are wet for not taking in Grime artists, but London (arguably the hub of grime) won't even take in grime from north. grime has been thriving there for years, it never died there and they're actually sick,
Londoners are just as myopic as the US tbh. Plently of Londoners make fun of non-Londoner accents and claim they can't understand anyone from up North. Like Dizzee said, the US isn't just NY and LA - middle America is huge. I don't see how Grime music will ever crack the US market fully.
equalitee we are 100% nah never, maybe a few skeptas and dizzees etc. but nothing more. deffo not real grime
can't take a rapper with a English accent serious
***** yall shouldn't I don't
+Tharealtharowkilla facts
+Tharealtharowkilla that's why our music and movies are the biggest, please... the birth of hip hop is over here recognize
+Rich8927 BRUH lmao I dead ass know more rappers on Mars than I do rappers from Britain! Who the fuck even are they?? They smoking moon rocks if they think they gonna get love in America
+squrdwurd the dank XI you aren't supposed to rate anybody from America because it's not made for British people we on our sippin lean popping xans and perks, shooting cops and opps and blooding and cripping... It's not made for British people
There are so many amazing rappers and grime artists in England, skeptas album konichiwa is a must listen
am I the only one who thinks skeptas album is shit
The UK grime artist was Lady Sovereign but I think she came out in 2005. But I could be wrong
Jay Prince from East London is Dope 👌🏾
Tinie tempah is from London and big globally?
This ain't aged well UK rappers changed USA rap drill, drake it's all UK beats n flow.
sick interview. I will say this though, they're trying to figure out why uk grime artists/rap artists haven't blown up like drake and i think the answer is obvious?? drake is more of an rnb artist, his music appeals to a much wider audience because its more inviting to more demographics. grime is just more underground and imo you have to have a real ear and passion for rap to understand the grime scene. i guarantee you will find people who dislike rap but like artists like drake, it wouldn't be the same the other way round innit
It's the accent.
I prefer when these are grime interviews rather than old school hip hop
think about it grime has been around since 2001 that's 15 years
old school people are like dizzee, Wiley, so solid crew, lethal, etc so we are there...but those old school guys are still around still making music
in the 90s grandmaster flash, whodini, big daddy Kane had disappeared and had stopped making music
Dizzee's like every Londoners little brother...! Love this guy
he is DOPE
Huge MF DOOM fan, I got onto some UK rap. I think the problem isn't the accent because I loved 4 Owls ft Premier, I think the issue is UK often sounds like it's behind the game. At times it sounds like an emulation of 90's culture. Honestly I think it will be insanely difficult for a UK rapper to match the global appeal of an American rapper due to people thinking the authenticity of the music and culture comes from NY, or Dirty South or West Coast. But if someone were to just do commercial pop music like Drake, that could be the difference
Yes but at the same time, He has a formula that works. His lyricism and complexity has found a broad audience. No hes not in Drake's lane, but his lane is dope enough. Hes not emulating or mimicking a genre. Thats kind of how UK rap sounds, like they are mimicking. That said, that "Dont Waste My Time" LITTTT!! 4 Owls, Bishop Nehruvian DOOM, ive heard some really good stuff. The accent and slang barrier also slows the progression into the North American Market.
i respect the UK and their black culture over there... just sonically haven't heard a UK hiphop artist I'd consistently check for. however, outside of hiphop there is many i fk wit
check out akala.
Shit
Bugzy Malone
Wretch 32
Check out Hawk House.
can't relate or understand them.. their references are too foreign
And no one cares about their references either. England isn't part of hip hop culture.
I'm from England I don't even care.
To him, you are foreign too. So what you talking about.
its not hip hop its grime, its cool if americans dont understand/care, but it has passed into a different genre at this point
They just sound like wannabes tbh comes off wild forced and cringe worthy... Like tim Westwood
Meanwhile man like Skepter is back home telling man that dizzee is not his cousin
what about Tinie Tempah?
@DJVlad the name you we're choking on was Lady Sovereign and also Tinie Tempah. Greetings from Ohio...Cleveland, Ohio.
If you want to listen to decent UK hip hop, check out: Split prophets, Buggsy, Jam Baxter, Lee Scott, Jehst, Roots Manuva, Rodney P, Life Mc, Klashnekoff, Dabbla, Foreign beggars, Chester P, Little Simz, Hawk house.... just to name a few
I bought Boy in Da Corner way back in like 04 and I'm from the midwest USA
does tricky count
UK Grime is not gonna break in America. To understand the scene you have to understand where it came from. It’s not hip hop, only inspired by it. US never caught on any of those genres that the scene grew out from, like UK garage, drum n bass, jungle etc so it’s too “alien” for them.
The music genre Grime is the predecessor to UK Drill, which has broken the states, only problem is, US rappers have taken the UK sound & tried to make it their own, packaging it as "Brooklyn Drill" to appeal to American audiences - which is funny cause this so-called "Brooklyn Drill" is just instrumentals made by UK Producers.
StacksOnDeck LDN cool! Never heard of Brooklyn Drill before. Do you have any good examples?
@@spacefertilizer Pop Smoke, Fivio Foreign, 22gz, Rah Swish, Curly Sav, Smoove L etc
I was at that Nas concert, a white, student from overseas, in Brixton for the first time. Crazy night. Braaat braaat.,
stop dat and i luv are my shit! that shit goes hard
First min looks like dizzee in a job interview. Lmao
Lol tea and crumpets 😂😂💀💀😭😭
The thing is UK grime is as spiritually/ musically as akin to a black version of UK punk as it is hip hop. It's often pretty unsophisticated, demo -like stuff with rapping skills that often have limited variation / patterns within the grime rhythm patterns.
Frankly, it's going to take a genuine star WITH a musical advancement on the typical grime formula to really break through!