"Because I owed you" Does anyone else feel like Jon's subconsciously going through his bucket list? Killing those he wants revenge on, helping people who helped him or who were his friends. Tieing up all the lose ends.
"average avatar covered in 20 ants" factoid actually a statistical error. ants jordan, who is covered in 2521000 ants, is an outlier and should not have been counted
listen, jordan kennedy let martin take jane prentiss' ashes to give to jon. even when jon thought they were fake, he took comfort in having them there. how could he NOT gift him terrible ascension to watcher of ants.
@@lonewaffle231 force you into being a demon torturer of hell, unable to leave hell, and if you don't torture you have every likelyhood of being tortured all over again, and that time there will be no end. Gotta love a moral conundrum
@@irongiant5951 well in not really sure about the forced part. Also you dont have to torture. It will go one without you. And finally I really want to konw what happened to him after the ending (spoilers sorry)
if i had a nickel for every time Tim Ledsam played a character who was unwillingly given functional eye-related immortality by a character played by Jonny Sims whilst in some eldritch horror-tunnels, i'd have ten cents. which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice.
@@scintillantflea4698 "Gunpowder Tim VS. The Moon Kaiser" by the Mechanisms, specifically. also congrats if this is the first you're hearing about the Mechanisms
As a person who puts emotion to inanimate objects, this is the kind of feeling when I walk on sand. I hate the idea of my being unwilling hurting others , great writing
ahahaha i love how jordan instantly chose violence. like 'wow cool thanks for the favor and all. but oh quick question-' would you rather suffer or be complicit? and OH BOY if that isn't the question of the century.
I find it funny how Melanie's VA has been doing some of the ad reads at the beginning, because I can very easily imagine her having done ad reads exactly like this when she was doing Ghost Hunt UK.
Experience hell or be hell, tough cookie. I feel like Martin might chew Jon out for this, but I'm honestly with Jon here. He gave Jordan the opportunity to choose to go back, and yeah, it's not a fair choice, but what other options were there?
@@macabrecitrus2127 There's this folk legend that little gnomes (I think would be the best English equivalent) live in the anthills. So, by stepping on them, you'd be destroying their homes and thusly cursed for disrespecting them.
Is it weird that this sounds kinda inspiring to me? Like a bunch of entities are small and insignificant on their own but together can be so great. I know it was supposed to be scary but this episode kinda gave me a good feeling.
@@mistydevillier2197 You citing "feelings" being our downfall in a TMA comment section is like whatever Jude Perry said about a lamb walking into a butcher's shop. We're all leftists degenerates here, lovely. Away with the weird right-wing dog whistle. Also, how the hell did you end up here? This is as odd as seeing a landlord in an earlier episode's comments, and before that finding an honest-to-God transphobe. The irony.
There's a voice line for Ramattra in Overwatch 2 where he talks about ants being his favourite animals because of how inspiring they are in that way. His VA made it feel really wholesome!
ants last night and ants the night before gonna be antsed tonight, if we're never antsed no more when you're ants, you're many as you can be cos the watcher wants to watch all of the human's misery
jon seems to have become more focused on a practical give and take reward/punishment mindset and to be FAIR martin kept asking john to help jordan sooo
me hearing that tma has an episode on everyone’s fears and having the very obscure phobia of ants specifically: psssh yeah sure me reading this title: *im in danger*
Huh, I was under the impression this was the Vast or the Buried, but I guess a literal interpretation of Corruption is fair enough. I suppose at this point the fears just blend into each other.
@@Ghostrecall_M Yeah, it's right into Martin's domain or a spoiler one for the vast (Ep... 196 or 197). Those legit scare me. This is just some base revulsion.
Well, great work Rusty Quill! You managed to nail down my E X A C T worst tangible fear in the world! In my listening, this is the only episode thus far that I have for the sake of my wellbeing had to skip.
Ok, but that is a lot of people to know. Like, the guy covered in ants is surrounded by "hundreds of those dearest to him". I only have like 5-18 people who are really close to me like that. Does he really have that many loved ones or are they like multiples of the same people?
Late to the party but I interpreted it as a metaphor for celebrity. Like you are loved by hundreds of thousands of people who treat you like a god and raise you on such a high pedestal that you know anything you do will hurt or disappoint someone out there. You become paralyzed by the knowledge that so many real people you will never know’s well-being is genuinely affected by your actions.
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John is really inhuman. He doesn't actually care about others' suffering, he only sees other people as "I owe him/her something" "I don't know them so I don't care". That's the most horrifying part of the whole season for me.
He can't care about all of them. The first victims, sure. But then after a while, when everyone is suffering, nobody can care about all of them, at least not as individuals.
"If we are like ants to the Eldritch monsters, how do we know that ants are not like us, each with a rich inner life?" Am I the only one who found this super adorable? 😭😂
On my third listen of Archives in 2024 (it’s fine I’m fine I’m normal) and as someone with a life long phobia of ants, any time I get through this episode is an accomplishment
Quintillions of ants? How bad does this ever get in reality? I had to look it up. The average ant colony, counted between all species of ants, numbers 20k to 100k ants. The largest ant colony recorded to date, the Argentine Ant Supercolony, has an estimated 307 million ants in it, spanning 6000 km from Italy to the Spanish Atlantic coast. (Not sure how dense, but it's 51 ants per meter, and probably not evenly spread.) ...So, massive, but not infinite. I don't know, maybe that satisfies someone's curiosity, or comforts someone who was given the heebie jeebies by this episode. ...Obviously no numbers limit in a horror-farming hellscape reality twimst, but ay.
1. Love the ants. I like ants. Yes, they don't like me back (one of my earlies memories was stepping on a nest and being covered by fire ants - and later my field research plot waa below a tree covered in the tiny painful buggers). Ants can have a little revenge, as a treat.
Dude I "finished" this series the other day and I was going through the episodes and then BAM an episode unwatched I thought it might be an episode I re-started on accident before going to the next one (it has happened ALOT) but no I have no memory of this episode HOW DID I SKIP A WHOLE Episode 😭 well I guess I get to listen to this...it's nice I don't like not listening to this series (:
Oh, hey, new Eye-related power unlocked for someone the Archivist kinda likes? (Not Martin likes, just regular likes). I wonder if there's a pattern to be found here... 🤔
It's one thing when they make coherent sentences and talk through Jon's voice, but it's different when they are just screaming in agony and fear, convulsing in pain.... it's... worse . Much worse
@@craigtpm Eheheh... not that it wasn't nice hanging out with the Desolation, but man, look at the time, I'm late for... a meal... so... *flings open yellow door and shuffles in* bye *closes door*
That‘s unfortunate... your head would make a wonderful wax statue darling! But alas... if you must go then I won’t stop you... and ignore the statues who will be watching you sleep! *sets himself on fire*
Martin just doesn’t seem to like Jon very much. The whole time. The whole season. He just complains and whines and nothing Jon does is ever good enough. I mean…yeah it’s fucked up that the world ended and your boyfriend is a demigod…but it’s a lot for him too.
"I spared your suffering by making you the Avatar of Ants."
"Cool, can I make them attack you?"
"Why you ungrateful son of a-"
He really went, Eye give this man a promotion!
Being the eye, I didn’t want to give him promotion
@@Pineapplecrispy Also being the eye, I did want to give this man a promotion
"Because I owed you"
Does anyone else feel like Jon's subconsciously going through his bucket list? Killing those he wants revenge on, helping people who helped him or who were his friends. Tieing up all the lose ends.
that scares me ngl
Oh gosh... reminds me of reasons why people tie up loose ends.
In order to end the apocalypse… does Jon need to die? I just formed this theory so probably not correct but omggggg
Welcome to the Archive 😎
Yes and i know where ur going with this. Felt it when Daisy hurt him.
"average avatar covered in 20 ants" factoid actually a statistical error. ants jordan, who is covered in 2521000 ants, is an outlier and should not have been counted
@lila mansilla harsh competition, truly
Anus georg
That would mean there are 127500 avatars? Assuming no other Avatar is covered in ants
Omg a Cookie Clicker reference XD
@@deafeningoctopus it pains me to inform you, it's a reference to a tumblr post that cookie clicker just also happened to reference
Martin: “what are we gonna do”
Jon: “eye daddy give this man a promotion”
top tier comment
Jordan: I don’t want this I don’t know how to be a torturer
Jordan, two seconds later: oh hey can I take my new friends and ATTACK people
He’s a quick learner
listen, jordan kennedy let martin take jane prentiss' ashes to give to jon. even when jon thought they were fake, he took comfort in having them there. how could he NOT gift him terrible ascension to watcher of ants.
talk about butterfly effect. One day you give someone ashes, the next they set you free in Hell
@@lonewaffle231 force you into being a demon torturer of hell, unable to leave hell, and if you don't torture you have every likelyhood of being tortured all over again, and that time there will be no end. Gotta love a moral conundrum
@@irongiant5951 well in not really sure about the forced part. Also you dont have to torture. It will go one without you. And finally I really want to konw what happened to him after the ending (spoilers sorry)
Jon: My work here is done!
Jordan: I’m infested with ants and can feel the pain of everyone, everywhere.
Jon: *sweeps cape*
and looks dradikly
if i had a nickel for every time Tim Ledsam played a character who was unwillingly given functional eye-related immortality by a character played by Jonny Sims whilst in some eldritch horror-tunnels, i'd have ten cents. which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice.
When else?!
@@scintillantflea4698 "Gunpowder Tim VS. The Moon Kaiser" by the Mechanisms, specifically. also congrats if this is the first you're hearing about the Mechanisms
@@WeAreAirborne not the first time hearing about it. Is it on youtube or something?
@@scintillantflea4698 it might be, but you can also find it on genius i believe!
@@scintillantflea4698 go to a channel called TheVoidSings, they have lyric videos for all the mech songs, album playlists, and helpful descriptions
As a person who puts emotion to inanimate objects, this is the kind of feeling when I walk on sand. I hate the idea of my being unwilling hurting others , great writing
Okay but what do you think is the difference between sand and dirt? I feel like the same rules apply.
@@Deadflower019 not gonna lie I don’t remember writing this. And I have no idea what I was talking about
@@Deadflower019I suspect he was referring to all the little creatures that live under the sand, like at the beach
@@GreatvalueSerotonin lmfao well that was an answer 💀😂
@@itsyaboy9829 🤷 at least I’m honest
The ants have risen up and taken vengeance against those who wronged them
That's fair i guess
a lot of tma episodes are just "hey would that be fucked up or what". this is one of them.
ahahaha i love how jordan instantly chose violence. like 'wow cool thanks for the favor and all. but oh quick question-'
would you rather suffer or be complicit? and OH BOY if that isn't the question of the century.
I find it funny how Melanie's VA has been doing some of the ad reads at the beginning, because I can very easily imagine her having done ad reads exactly like this when she was doing Ghost Hunt UK.
Today's ghost hunt is sponsored by raid shadow legends
Experience hell or be hell, tough cookie. I feel like Martin might chew Jon out for this, but I'm honestly with Jon here. He gave Jordan the opportunity to choose to go back, and yeah, it's not a fair choice, but what other options were there?
I like seeing more of non-human avatars! Forever a stan of monster pig
"Seeing"
"Nobody *likes* ants" well I guess I'm nobody!
whoops guess you gotta change your name to nobody awesome now!
There's me, too !
I always feel bad when I step on an anthill by accident :/
@@macabrecitrus2127 There's this folk legend that little gnomes (I think would be the best English equivalent) live in the anthills. So, by stepping on them, you'd be destroying their homes and thusly cursed for disrespecting them.
Is it weird that this sounds kinda inspiring to me? Like a bunch of entities are small and insignificant on their own but together can be so great. I know it was supposed to be scary but this episode kinda gave me a good feeling.
That's exactly what humans are. Small and insignificant entities. Together we can be great, but, people let things like "feelings" divide us.
@@mistydevillier2197 Ah yes, silly old feelings
@@mistydevillier2197 You citing "feelings" being our downfall in a TMA comment section is like whatever Jude Perry said about a lamb walking into a butcher's shop. We're all leftists degenerates here, lovely. Away with the weird right-wing dog whistle.
Also, how the hell did you end up here? This is as odd as seeing a landlord in an earlier episode's comments, and before that finding an honest-to-God transphobe. The irony.
There's a voice line for Ramattra in Overwatch 2 where he talks about ants being his favourite animals because of how inspiring they are in that way. His VA made it feel really wholesome!
@@mistydevillier2197 this post was brought to you by, Peter Lukas!
Jordan, aka Ant-Man
As someone named Jordan with a general fear of the crawling sensation, this one got me.
ants last night
and ants the night before
gonna be antsed tonight, if we're never antsed no more
when you're ants, you're many as you can be
cos the watcher wants to watch all of the human's misery
hey, how does it feel to be the funniest person on this website?
AHAHJAHJAHA LMAO
They're antsing us they're antsing us, one magical power and it broke on us you better thank your lucky stars that the ants don't work 🎶
Martin- No one *likes* ants.
Jon, channeling that one Vine- That is not correct. Because according to the encyclopedia of pththtphthtpth...
jon seems to have become more focused on a practical give and take reward/punishment mindset and to be FAIR martin kept asking john to help jordan sooo
I’m not ashamed to say I re-listened to this just to hear my boy Tim again
He can turn people into avatars now 🤯
Of ANY fear, no less.
My joy at seeing Tim Ledsam again is only slightly dampened by the horrible trauma his character is undergoing here
me hearing that tma has an episode on everyone’s fears and having the very obscure phobia of ants specifically: psssh yeah sure
me reading this title: *im in danger*
Huh, I was under the impression this was the Vast or the Buried, but I guess a literal interpretation of Corruption is fair enough. I suppose at this point the fears just blend into each other.
Burid and Corruption it sounds like
5:47 not the evil ants laughing in the background 😭
Oh my god that is so creepy!!!!!!
WHAT IS THIS! A DOMAIN FOR ANTS! it needs to be at least 3 times bigger.
Peak comment 😂
jon is a fear vampires and basically made jordan one in true wattpad fashion has the "i didn't want this" convo
WHOA JORDAN!!!!! AYYEEEEE
leto is. honestly a mood for 64% of my childhood anxiety regarding Not-Me-Things
GUNPOWDER TIM WHAT
my exact same reaction
"...i said it was limited and draws artificial borders, but it does have its use when it comes to conceptualizing things."
Poor Jordan, he's probably so conflicted, I can't blame him.
The ants tunnel through his veins.
Yeah, ants are bastards that way.
One of the biggest NOPE domains that they came up with. It's just... bleargh... creepy crawlies always get to me.
We now know where your going, friend.
@@Ghostrecall_M Yeah, it's right into Martin's domain or a spoiler one for the vast (Ep... 196 or 197). Those legit scare me.
This is just some base revulsion.
Well, great work Rusty Quill! You managed to nail down my E X A C T worst tangible fear in the world! In my listening, this is the only episode thus far that I have for the sake of my wellbeing had to skip.
Ok, but that is a lot of people to know. Like, the guy covered in ants is surrounded by "hundreds of those dearest to him". I only have like 5-18 people who are really close to me like that. Does he really have that many loved ones or are they like multiples of the same people?
I think it means he really loves the ants for their own sake. I think they're just ants.
Maybe he was beginning to be claimed by the Corruption, before the Change
@@FH-rp6zs Rip to our boy Benoit, he would've loved the apocalypse.
Late to the party but I interpreted it as a metaphor for celebrity. Like you are loved by hundreds of thousands of people who treat you like a god and raise you on such a high pedestal that you know anything you do will hurt or disappoint someone out there. You become paralyzed by the knowledge that so many real people you will never know’s well-being is genuinely affected by your actions.
John is really inhuman. He doesn't actually care about others' suffering, he only sees other people as "I owe him/her something" "I don't know them so I don't care". That's the most horrifying part of the whole season for me.
To me what’s even more horrifying is learning that’s how most real-life humans function
He can't care about all of them. The first victims, sure. But then after a while, when everyone is suffering, nobody can care about all of them, at least not as individuals.
As a person who just really likes bugs, including ants, Leto's horror of being... inevitably destructive to them, really got to me.
“What is this inside my mind that drags out what I left behind” the answer is ants
Torture, or self-preservation through torturing others.
"If we are like ants to the Eldritch monsters, how do we know that ants are not like us, each with a rich inner life?" Am I the only one who found this super adorable? 😭😂
I absolutely do not like ants. This episode actually almost made me sick. It's great.
Bless you ants. Blants.
jon is such a spooky guy love him
On my third listen of Archives in 2024 (it’s fine I’m fine I’m normal) and as someone with a life long phobia of ants, any time I get through this episode is an accomplishment
Quintillions of ants? How bad does this ever get in reality? I had to look it up. The average ant colony, counted between all species of ants, numbers 20k to 100k ants. The largest ant colony recorded to date, the Argentine Ant Supercolony, has an estimated 307 million ants in it, spanning 6000 km from Italy to the Spanish Atlantic coast. (Not sure how dense, but it's 51 ants per meter, and probably not evenly spread.) ...So, massive, but not infinite. I don't know, maybe that satisfies someone's curiosity, or comforts someone who was given the heebie jeebies by this episode. ...Obviously no numbers limit in a horror-farming hellscape reality twimst, but ay.
I couldn't help but think of social media at one point 😅 no matter what you do, how you move, someone will always dislike what you do
1. Love the ants. I like ants. Yes, they don't like me back (one of my earlies memories was stepping on a nest and being covered by fire ants - and later my field research plot waa below a tree covered in the tiny painful buggers). Ants can have a little revenge, as a treat.
Dude I "finished" this series the other day and I was going through the episodes and then BAM an episode unwatched I thought it might be an episode I re-started on accident before going to the next one (it has happened ALOT) but no I have no memory of this episode HOW DID I SKIP A WHOLE Episode 😭 well I guess I get to listen to this...it's nice I don't like not listening to this series (:
I'm wondering too. This is my second kisten and this is the only episode I have no memory of.
A bug's life title opening:
Oh, hey, new Eye-related power unlocked for someone the Archivist kinda likes? (Not Martin likes, just regular likes). I wonder if there's a pattern to be found here... 🤔
a nightmare but you cant wake up, or having your reality confirmed in its agonizing expanse.
I went straight there... and marathoned it all 🤣
It's one thing when they make coherent sentences and talk through Jon's voice, but it's different when they are just screaming in agony and fear, convulsing in pain.... it's... worse . Much worse
What is this!? A domain... for ANTS!?!
Hi Lydia! Hi Alex!
Hi Jonny! Hi Mike!
@@amniamin22 We meet again Amni. The desolation awaits you.....
@@craigtpm Eheheh... not that it wasn't nice hanging out with the Desolation, but man, look at the time, I'm late for... a meal... so... *flings open yellow door and shuffles in* bye *closes door*
That‘s unfortunate... your head would make a wonderful wax statue darling! But alas... if you must go then I won’t stop you... and ignore the statues who will be watching you sleep! *sets himself on fire*
@@craigtpm SJSJSJ SOMEONE HELP
hehe the feeling when you caught up on the website and are finally farther than youtube
ive always wanted to be like, ant infestation, go!!
I am cooking dinner while listening to this episode and the sizzling certainly made this much creepier
Ps White Vailt is amazeballs 😄
no no no no no not ants not ants
wait so is he a watched with the ants acting as extentions/
I PERSONNALY LIKE ANTS SO FAR THEY ARE THE LEAST WORST NOT GONNA LIE
Drowning in them would be a bit much though.
Ahh! My name!
JONATHAN WHY DID YOU SAVE HIM?!!!!?!?!??!!???
I don't know why "tell tale tickle" set me off but I don't like it
Just so you know...oh...right
Big oof...
Martin just doesn’t seem to like Jon very much. The whole time. The whole season. He just complains and whines and nothing Jon does is ever good enough. I mean…yeah it’s fucked up that the world ended and your boyfriend is a demigod…but it’s a lot for him too.
NOPE
Myrmecophobes represent!
Eugghh
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