I will never be doing this in my lifetime, however I appreciate the craftsmanship involved. I could watch vids like this all day long. Thanks for sharing.
I wouldn't know so many things if you guys weren't there.Thank you for your professionalism and advices that are gonna save us so much effort and money.
Any time you install a outboard bracket you double the stress on the transom due the cantilever/leveraging. You better make sure your transom is sound and/or additional reinforcement for safety sakes.
Good stuff brother. I’d love to see a video of how to install a drain plug into the hull. So you can get that last little bit of water out that never comes out the back or use it as a drain port for service work.
I've noticed now that I've been watching your channel, it takes 7 days for me to get a new video. Now, you're thinking"yeah it's 7 days between Tuesdays" but, That is now taking forever!! My Tuesdays have never seemed so far apart !!!! Lol!
New paint , new Coosa transom. Mounted my bracket according to this video. Found out the hard way twin engine brackets use a different formula. It would help people in the future if you edited this video or made a new one to explain the twin engine bracket measurements. As always great content. Maybe you could make a video on how to fill all the bolt holes in my new transom now 🤣🤣🤣
Oh no! Sorry dude! That sucks! Was it a new bracket, it didn't have a template? Ouch! You can't edit once the videos published :( sadly. Take a 1/2 hole saw or maybe a 5/8 depending in the size of your holes, and take out the drill bit and make plugs out of some treated wood or left over Coosa, then soak the in the resin and stick them in the holes :)
Hello verry nice vidio about the silicone after each use for the day you can put any types of hair grease to stop air entering the silicon tip and cover it back therefor it reusable
Loved it if you were tell someone what you going to do that day, no way you could explain how much work and prep it work take to get the the finish. Great job so easy to cut corners but none taken here I would bring my boat to you bud.😉👍👍
Nice Job! Is there any advantage to prepping or painting the bracket, before installation? Can you gelcoat the Armstrong brackets, I am guessing they are powder coated! Keep up the great videos, HUGE help!!!
Really enjoying this video. I am going to remove my 470 mercruiser and add a bracket. I would love to see a video closer showing measurements for the bracket hight and details. I have a 1980 glasply 21 foot cuddly cabin. This was a well built boat and I think it deserve a re-power and bracket. I was going to use a 25” 150 Suzuki outboard.
I've been following your videos for a while now. Their great. I just purchased a boat that didn't run, 24ft Jaws by Lorequin Marine. it needed work which is why I purchased it. It needed a PCM , fuel line work, coil packs and driver. I took your advise on cleaning the VST on the Opti 225. It started today and ran like a champ. My question to you is, I noticed some gauges dont work. Im thinking of autometer Marine carbon series. will any marine gauge work on a 2 stroke outboard. Keep the videos coming thanks for your time...
Well for an engine its usually about 55 ft lbs. For this, I hit with the impact until the nuts don't spin and stop before it starts to sink into the fiberglass :) eventually you just get a feel for it and know when it's good lol I'm not sure for the bracket sorry :(
You don’t measure off the platform of the bracket, you measure from where the engine mounting riser which is usually at least 4”. And for every foot back on the bracket you raise it 1 inch. Just saying!
most boaters figure the drive shaft nose cone and Prop need to be as dead center as can be accomplished. But (more so; with super hi performance Hull and outboard Horse Power) I always Took into account The torque created by the direction the prop swung especially at high speeds. For ex. a clockwise spin develops a centrifugal force which when she is trimmed out real high will actually Walk the hull to the right sideways. yer gonna lose 2 or 3 mph. so...u mount the engine to favor the Starboard. an inch
Hello Born again!! I have a question in regards to the bracket height. when your installing a bracket for dual motors how do you figure out which is the height?? hope to hear from you soon. And thanks for all the valuable info!!!
You misses out a very important fact - that engine can be mounted higher the further back behind the boat? Now your cav plate will be to low when on the plane. That engine needed to go 4inches higher at 30Inch behind the boat. How did you find it when fitted and RUN?
excellent video:why did armstronge build engine pods (late 80-early 90s) w/ a gap at the bottom of pod right where it mates the transome the pod fills w/ water.I'm in saltwater so I can't really completely seal pod like if water gets in tnside pod it will be diffacult to rinse.I can post a image.thanks for advice.
It feels like it is just hanging out there too far and could break off the transom. Wouldn't it be better to cut the transom and mount the engine directly on it?
Why do you set the swim platform level of the bracket at the 20" or 25" distance up from the keel and not the top of the raised section. where the motor hangs, like a regular transom ? Because that raised section on the bracket is higher then the swim platform deck.
Without watching the video I'm going to say that the best reason to not put a bracket on is because it increases the leverage that the motor has on the back of the boat, increasing stress on the transom and reducing the life of it. That said, there are proper ways to install one that don't eliminate this issue but at least make it manageable.
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How far apart can the difference in the angles be? Wouldn't the difference of the angle change the stresses on the bracket causing cracks (eventually) in the bracket?
There are so many reason that this makes sense. early versions of bracket/lifts were pioneered right here by Glenn Woolridge on the Wild & Scenic Rogue River. His boats are legendary and still highly desirable. Woolridge is still in business 👍. My drift boat motor is suspended behind the hulls contact with the water by the 'rocker' built in to the design. My fellow fishermen approved this message 🌐 It's a watery world.🌐
Hello. I need to know if I could be able to put a bracket and a little more heavy engine in a 1990 center console proline with I have now envirude 225hp in a open transom on rear of boat ( not close) My intentions are to use similar bracket on this video and 200hp 4 strokes Suzuki with will be about 700-900 pounds on the back of my boat!
These are sticky situations. Because older boats were not designed for the extra weight in the back, when you add the bracket and then the heavier engine, some of those older boats will tend to porpoise because they are too light in the bow. Then you have to add weight to the bow to get them to ride correctly. You also want to look at the deck and how far above the water line the deck is. If it's just above the waterline, and you add the weight and it can push the back of the boat down and allow water to always come in the deck drains. So there are some things that you want to research and look at to consider before going all in on the project! Not to scare you, most of the time just like with this 23, the end result is amazing and there aren't any issues! Just be mindful of those things.
I love your videos and your channel but I wish you named the videos a little better. Instead of "why not install a bracket", how about "Project boat x part y". I was watching this project series but gave up because I couldn't find the next video. Which happens to be this particular one, I had to stumble on it. Anyway, great channel and content, I'm learning a lot, thanks for sharing!!
Yes, you should compensate some for that. But that is not that big of an offset, depending on the bracket manufacturer, you can call them and they will generally have instructions that will help you step by step on how to make that compensation!
I have a 1965 Glasspar seafaire sunliner with what appears to be superficialis cracks in the paint/gelcoat on the underside of the hull........Do I repaint????
When you need to take that bracket off in the future, you'll realize 5200 wasn't the right choice. Ive spent hours removing swim platforms an outboards because of 5200. Usually takes paint or fiberglass with it.
Hello goodnight I am writing from Argentina, I have a donzi 16 sweet, we remove the internal motor and we want to put a mercury PRO XS 115 HP outboard motor ... it will work well with a bracket? , could you help me to do the calculations, I would not like to move it far from the transom From already thank you very much ! Jorge Pitar
Hello, youll have to strengthen the transom, but I've never done something like that on a small 16 foot boat, youll want to use a small single engine bracket and then also, the 115 sounds like a small engine. I just looked it up and they came with 200 and 250 engines!
@@BornAgainBoating Good day ! Thanks for your answer ... 115 is not enough, but here in Argentina they wouldn't let me install something bigger, the idea was a 150 .. let's see if by changing the computer we can bring it a higher power. Here it is said that every 4 inches it moves away from the transom, you have to raise the engine half an inch ... do you know if that's the case? How do you do the calculation? I saw some calculations in the video but the language doesn't suit me. Cheers !!
It gets the engine off the transom quite a bit and allows to give more lift to the boat. Backing up, it makes the boat handle a little different with the space between the engine and the transom, it pushes the water against the boat :/. You get used to it though, I love putting brackets on older boats and opening up the back for more fishing room and more gear. Plus getting in and out of the boat is way easier with the platform bracket :)
Just a fantastic Question; I've heard that it may create a "Balance Issue". For all intents and purposes, it extends the actual length of the boat in terms of where the drive is re-located. It seems to me that all that re-located weight Plus the thrust (at a standing start) might cause her to take a little more time to plane out? I also think that "Handling and Cornering" could be affected due to the distance the prop drive is away from the keel. The Project as far as "The Glass Work and craftsmanship goes, is Born Again Boating Signature Excellence". But I would never go with the extended transom option. (no harm meant)
It should be up, all articles and everything is still up but we've added a membership program that we havent finished yet so the homepage says that it's under construction. :/
Yes, usually you will see a little more speed, depending on the hull of the boat. Also it makes it really easy for you to get in and out of the boat with the platform, along with some other perks like more room in the back of the boat!
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I will never be doing this in my lifetime, however I appreciate the craftsmanship involved. I could watch vids like this all day long. Thanks for sharing.
I appreciate that!
I wouldn't know so many things if you guys weren't there.Thank you for your professionalism and advices that are gonna save us so much effort and money.
Any time you install a outboard bracket you double the stress on the transom due the cantilever/leveraging. You better make sure your transom is sound and/or additional reinforcement for safety sakes.
Good stuff brother. I’d love to see a video of how to install a drain plug into the hull. So you can get that last little bit of water out that never comes out the back or use it as a drain port for service work.
I've noticed now that I've been watching your channel, it takes 7 days for me to get a new video. Now, you're thinking"yeah it's 7 days between Tuesdays" but, That is now taking forever!! My Tuesdays have never seemed so far apart !!!! Lol!
Amazing !! I like the tape to make a perfect line with the sealant. I am gonna try that next project.
A little trick I use on 5200 to save some money... put it in the fridge when your done stays good for months!!
just hope mom doesn't use it to make the kids lunches.
im gonna try this. thank you!
I like to cover the fastener heads inside with sealant to encapsulate and then paint it.
Very informative tutorial. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from the Outer Banks, N.C.
After you open 3M 5200 you can throw it in the freezer and it will last forever. Thaw it and re use multiple times.
New paint , new Coosa transom. Mounted my bracket according to this video. Found out the hard way twin engine brackets use a different formula. It would help people in the future if you edited this video or made a new one to explain the twin engine bracket measurements. As always great content. Maybe you could make a video on how to fill all the bolt holes in my new transom now 🤣🤣🤣
Oh no! Sorry dude! That sucks! Was it a new bracket, it didn't have a template? Ouch! You can't edit once the videos published :( sadly.
Take a 1/2 hole saw or maybe a 5/8 depending in the size of your holes, and take out the drill bit and make plugs out of some treated wood or left over Coosa, then soak the in the resin and stick them in the holes :)
Excellent video, so much to learn you covered a lot here, Thanks
Hello verry nice vidio about the silicone after each use for the day you can put any types of hair grease to stop air entering the silicon tip and cover it back therefor it reusable
Awesome Vids Guys just enough Info and to the point were its not over whelming. Thanks
One thing I would add is don't use an impact. I always hand tighten every through bolt on a transom.
Impact drivers and stainless fasteners don’t mix.
Loved it if you were tell someone what you going to do that day, no way you could explain how much work and prep it work take to get the the finish.
Great job so easy to cut corners but none taken here I would bring my boat to you bud.😉👍👍
if ya gonna use sealent on holes. squirt it in first. so you know 100% that it's got enough sealent inside the holes... just to be 100% sure :)
this is how to videos should be made-excellent!
Nice Job! Is there any advantage to prepping or painting the bracket, before installation? Can you gelcoat the Armstrong brackets, I am guessing they are powder coated! Keep up the great videos, HUGE help!!!
Another great informative tutorial; thank you!
Yessss!!! Ask and you shal receive! Now if I can get someone to show us how to build one lol
Is that aluminum or wood?
CK_32 aluminum
If you put your half-used tube of 5200 in the freezer it stays good. Just pull it out an hr before you want to use it!
I live in NC if I have any work to be done on my boat it would be worth it to bring it to you . takeing pride in your work . Great job thanks
Really enjoying this video. I am going to remove my 470 mercruiser and add a bracket. I would love to see a video closer showing measurements for the bracket hight and details. I have a 1980 glasply 21 foot cuddly cabin. This was a well built boat and I think it deserve a re-power and bracket. I was going to use a 25” 150 Suzuki outboard.
Nice clear narration job well done 👍🇺🇸
Glad you liked it!
i would love to see you do this on an aluminum boat! please look for an aluminum boat for your next project.
This is very good way to do things.
I've been following your videos for a while now. Their great. I just purchased a boat that didn't run, 24ft Jaws by Lorequin Marine. it needed work which is why I purchased it. It needed a PCM , fuel line work, coil packs and driver. I took your advise on cleaning the VST on the Opti 225. It started today and ran like a champ. My question to you is, I noticed some gauges dont work. Im thinking of autometer Marine carbon series. will any marine gauge work on a 2 stroke outboard. Keep the videos coming thanks for your time...
What are the general Torque Specs on bracket and outboard?
Great channel!!! Keep it up
Well for an engine its usually about 55 ft lbs. For this, I hit with the impact until the nuts don't spin and stop before it starts to sink into the fiberglass :) eventually you just get a feel for it and know when it's good lol I'm not sure for the bracket sorry :(
You don’t measure off the platform of the bracket, you measure from where the engine mounting riser which is usually at least 4”. And for every foot back on the bracket you raise it 1 inch. Just saying!
Great info.. many thanks.
First quality information thanks👍👍
Thanks for liking
YOU can buy shims to correct the angle is what I am going to do
howd that work out ? how did you seal bracket??
I think you used enough bolts. Are you hanging 3 300 hp engines
most boaters figure the drive shaft nose cone and Prop need to be as dead center as can be accomplished.
But (more so; with super hi performance Hull and outboard Horse Power) I always Took into account The torque created by the direction the prop swung especially at high speeds.
For ex. a clockwise spin develops a centrifugal force which when she is trimmed out real high will actually Walk the hull to the right sideways. yer gonna lose 2 or 3 mph.
so...u mount the engine to favor the Starboard. an inch
Let’s here about kicker motors
Nice job my friend 😎😎😎
Hello Born again!! I have a question in regards to the bracket height. when your installing a bracket for dual motors how do you figure out which is the height?? hope to hear from you soon. And thanks for all the valuable info!!!
You misses out a very important fact - that engine can be mounted higher the further back behind the boat? Now your cav plate will be to low when on the plane. That engine needed to go 4inches higher at 30Inch behind the boat. How did you find it when fitted and RUN?
Question:
Do you need to reinforce the transom when applying a bracket to a converted inboard boat?
Yes :)
What are you spraying on the 5200 for clean up? That looks like degreaser. But I’m not sure.
It's just some cheap de-greaser from the dollar store :)
excellent video:why did armstronge build engine pods (late 80-early 90s) w/ a gap at the bottom of pod right where it mates the transome the pod fills w/ water.I'm in saltwater so I can't really completely seal pod like if water gets in tnside pod it will be diffacult to rinse.I can post a image.thanks for advice.
It feels like it is just hanging out there too far and could break off the transom. Wouldn't it be better to cut the transom and mount the engine directly on it?
So well done!!!
My bracket is a Dusky one with open V shape design.. Is it possible to seal the top so no water gets in it???
Why do you set the swim platform level of the bracket at the 20" or 25" distance up from the keel and not the top of the raised section. where the motor hangs, like a regular transom ? Because that raised section on the bracket is higher then the swim platform deck.
Looks great man!
Without watching the video I'm going to say that the best reason to not put a bracket on is because it increases the leverage that the motor has on the back of the boat, increasing stress on the transom and reducing the life of it. That said, there are proper ways to install one that don't eliminate this issue but at least make it manageable.
I wonder why I like Tuesdays oh ya BAB tech Tuesday 👍
great job on that
Good job 👏 👍 👌 🙌
What type (material) of screws do you use, when you install an aluminum bracket? Stainless steel?
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Looks great guys!
How much cost the hole closing of inboard engine? Would it not be cheaper to put secondhand inboard engine?
Don't forget!! Measure twice. Cut once. 😂😂😉
Great series.
9:05 Exposed wood areas in the bilge don't get glassed in - future rot problem ahead??
Yes, that wood was just resin soaked but didn't get glass on the outside.
Can you put a outboard bracket on a 13’6” Bayliner?
I love this channel
Dear sir. Greetings.
Really you are a proffecer
Very very useful lessons
Regards
Earl dais Benjamin Gomez
It's my pleasure
Great videos, lots of detail but for me damn I like aluminum.
I have a 81 g.w 24 offshore. Yami 200 o.b ,,would like to do this
Great job man!
Awesome nice work!
Do you have any recommeded brands for transom brackets?
Thanks for the video, really great information. Where can someone get a used engine bracket like that?
we call em pods as in engine pods
Nice, very nice
How far apart can the difference in the angles be? Wouldn't the difference of the angle change the stresses on the bracket causing cracks (eventually) in the bracket?
I want to do this to mine I'm gonna start on it when it cools down outside where can I buy a bracket
Do you have any salvaged single engine brackets for sale?
No it’s not 1° per 1/4”. At 3 1/4” the angle is approximately 11.482° while the angle at 4 1/4” is approximately 14.876°.
how many times did he say the word BRACKET?
Where did you buy a used bracket?
That's the strangest way to get a degree of deadrise at the transom lol
There are so many reason that this makes sense. early versions of bracket/lifts were pioneered right here by Glenn Woolridge on the Wild & Scenic Rogue River. His boats are legendary and still highly desirable. Woolridge is still in business 👍. My drift boat motor is suspended behind the hulls contact with the water by the 'rocker' built in to the design. My fellow fishermen approved this message 🌐 It's a watery world.🌐
Hello. I need to know if I could be able to put a bracket and a little more heavy engine in a 1990 center console proline with I have now envirude 225hp in a open transom on rear of boat ( not close) My intentions are to use similar bracket on this video and 200hp 4 strokes Suzuki with will be about 700-900 pounds on the back of my boat!
These are sticky situations. Because older boats were not designed for the extra weight in the back, when you add the bracket and then the heavier engine, some of those older boats will tend to porpoise because they are too light in the bow. Then you have to add weight to the bow to get them to ride correctly.
You also want to look at the deck and how far above the water line the deck is. If it's just above the waterline, and you add the weight and it can push the back of the boat down and allow water to always come in the deck drains. So there are some things that you want to research and look at to consider before going all in on the project!
Not to scare you, most of the time just like with this 23, the end result is amazing and there aren't any issues! Just be mindful of those things.
Born Again Boating thank you very much I will continue searching about and considering all the points you talk. Thankful
good info keep this up, how much is the bracket BTW?
Thanks! Found the bracket on Craigslist for $400
Good job
Put 5200 in the refrigerator in a Ziploc last over a year
why not shim the bracket to match perfect??
I love your videos and your channel but I wish you named the videos a little better. Instead of "why not install a bracket", how about "Project boat x part y". I was watching this project series but gave up because I couldn't find the next video. Which happens to be this particular one, I had to stumble on it. Anyway, great channel and content, I'm learning a lot, thanks for sharing!!
Thank you and sorry about that! There is a playlist for this boat on the channel, that should play all the videos in order of it helps :)
Yes, the playlist is called project boat link here ua-cam.com/play/PLDFOb030syP5ftvga26fSfcR11HHhE-9B.html
Nice job
Any info on POWER calls? I/O 225hp how much OUTBOARD power would be needed?
As much as you can put on it!
Why wouldn’t you paint the back Sid if the bracket going up against the boat.
We will, just below the water line gets bottom paint and that will be done right before we put the boat into the water :)
Hi I purchased a used bracket it is 12 degrees but my transom is 14 degrees do I have to compensate the mounting height of the bracket?
Yes, you should compensate some for that. But that is not that big of an offset, depending on the bracket manufacturer, you can call them and they will generally have instructions that will help you step by step on how to make that compensation!
Nice!
I have a 1965 Glasspar seafaire sunliner with what appears to be superficialis cracks in the paint/gelcoat on the underside of the hull........Do I repaint????
Depends on how bad the cracks are. I would suggest checking out Boatworks Today and seeing if he has any content that is applicable for you :)
When you need to take that bracket off in the future, you'll realize 5200 wasn't the right choice. Ive spent hours removing swim platforms an outboards because of 5200. Usually takes paint or fiberglass with it.
So what do you recommend is the right choice, if not 5200?
@@lionofbuddha 4000uv
Hello goodnight
I am writing from Argentina, I have a donzi 16 sweet, we remove the internal motor and we want to put a mercury PRO XS 115 HP outboard motor ... it will work well with a bracket? , could you help me to do the calculations, I would not like to move it far from the transom
From already thank you very much !
Jorge Pitar
Hello, youll have to strengthen the transom, but I've never done something like that on a small 16 foot boat, youll want to use a small single engine bracket and then also, the 115 sounds like a small engine. I just looked it up and they came with 200 and 250 engines!
@@BornAgainBoating Good day ! Thanks for your answer ... 115 is not enough, but here in Argentina they wouldn't let me install something bigger, the idea was a 150 .. let's see if by changing the computer we can bring it a higher power.
Here it is said that every 4 inches it moves away from the transom, you have to raise the engine half an inch ... do you know if that's the case? How do you do the calculation? I saw some calculations in the video but the language doesn't suit me.
Cheers !!
Other than the transom angle, how does adding an engine bracket change the ride of the boat? Advantages and disadvantages?
It gets the engine off the transom quite a bit and allows to give more lift to the boat. Backing up, it makes the boat handle a little different with the space between the engine and the transom, it pushes the water against the boat :/. You get used to it though, I love putting brackets on older boats and opening up the back for more fishing room and more gear. Plus getting in and out of the boat is way easier with the platform bracket :)
Just a fantastic Question; I've heard that it may create a "Balance Issue".
For all intents and purposes, it extends the actual length of the boat in terms of where the drive is re-located.
It seems to me that all that re-located weight Plus the thrust (at a standing start) might cause her to take a little more time to plane out?
I also think that "Handling and Cornering" could be affected due to the distance the prop drive is away from the keel.
The Project as far as "The Glass Work and craftsmanship goes, is Born Again Boating Signature Excellence".
But I would never go with the extended transom option. (no harm meant)
I need to remove my bracket any chance of a video on how that's done?
You just have to remove the engine and then undo the bolts around it :/ its easy once you get started
Hey this is Troy from Louisiana is your born again boating website up or under construction I tried to go to it but it’s not up
It should be up, all articles and everything is still up but we've added a membership program that we havent finished yet so the homepage says that it's under construction. :/
Tuesday’s can’t happen fast enough.
Will I get more speed outta doing this?
Yes, usually you will see a little more speed, depending on the hull of the boat. Also it makes it really easy for you to get in and out of the boat with the platform, along with some other perks like more room in the back of the boat!
I have a 1988 mako 171 would bracket do well on her? Or .maybe jack plate pros cons
If you need another boat to work on let me know
Where did you buy the used bracket
Craigslist :)
What video was that you put on the rub rail
We didn't make a video about that, it was just the center piece and the ends we trimmed up :)
Subbed ....cheers
Much appreciated