I Put Out All Seven Horses To Socialize And Play Together
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- We've finally got all seven horses in the arena together for some socializing and playtime. It's a really good thing and a beautiful day to make this happen!
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I am a believer in mixed herds. I live in the Pacific Northwest. Last year when fires and smoke threatened the barn where my horse lives, we had to quickly load 14 horses into various trailers and move them to safety. All are used to trailers, but some had to go in unfamiliar ones. It was good not to have to worry about which horse could or couldn’t go with another. Not the sort of circumstance any of us wanted but all were safe partly because they were all familiar and comfortable with each other.
Glad you got your herd to safety
Excellent point.
Exactly! That's a point I completely forgot to mention. All the horses need to get along so we as humans don't have to accommodate at the last minute when there is an emergency. It amazes me that so many don't have that forethought or maybe just don't care...
Thank you for the advice. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year . Love your videos !
Thank you! Merry Christmas to you too, 😊
When the two boys are just being nutter butters and just constantly playing and nipping it makes me smile so much, they're so freaking cute haha
I love just watching them all hangout & the way they interact with each other. I laughed when Roni tried his drive by at Little Miss between Lena & Gracie, Joka just didn’t move, I could almost hear her say ‘Hey man you want me to move you gotta try harder than that!’
One thing about your place, the horses all have separate paddocks & shelters. There are many places that don't have that, so the horses are together most of the time, & are not observed as closely as you observe your buddies. Much of the adjustments to each other are unobserved. The bridge seems to hold a position of status LOL! Such a nice group of horses. Merry Christmas!
True, if horses are all together then they do a lot when people aren't around because a lot of people don't hang around horses.
Thank you! Merry Christmas to you too :)
That "little Yoka" is such a strong one-she stood on that bridge for about 20 minutes!!! Nothing intimidates her.
Yes, Roni and Gracie side by each in the sun look like two bright new copper pennies (from the old days).
Another reason to hang out with the herd, it would seem, is to maintain your highest-horse status in a non-training circumstance. Also, it would seem you would want to encourage a mixed herd for when you get together with other horse people to ride as a group with differing genders.
Yes, I go with the herd and the herd goes with me :) I think it's super important to be part of that
I'm the high horse wherever I go. Not just with my own, but all of the herd here. (about 45). Not sure how I do it, but they also all like me. Being a higher horse is a safety issue. I saw what happened to a lower horse that tried telling a higher horse what to do. Glad it wasn't me.
@@MaxNafeHorsemanship sounds good.
Very entertaining, I enjoy watching all those interactions, no need for much running around. Little Miss seems to be a profoundly friendly mare. And very relaxed as well.
She's a wonderful little horse for sure, I really enjoy my time with her and her time with the herd.
Your voice over her attempt at a roll is hilarious.
It's horse talk. They could hurt each other but they don't. They are good at communicating
What a great group of horses. Thanks for your instruction as we watch. Yes! It definitely looks like mumbling. I like the way you expect your horses to get along. I believe horses are intelligent creatures and know what's expected of them. So they were trying. They like interacting with you. Thanks for sharing them with us. 🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐴
i just love joka not moving at all at 16:30 :)
Just love to see all the horses interact ...and all of the herd together.
I can stand and watch 2 or more horses interact all day. Almost all my horse knowledge comes from this. I learn how to get them to do what I want by watching how they get what they want
I love it that while stuff is happening in the arena the two goofs Mr. Wilde and Luke are playing in the corner and Yoka stays standing and unmoving!
I wonder if Roni instead of feeling “possessive” over Lena just has to have a mare to control. It is something stallions do in the wild I think. And perhaps the behavior gives Roni a sense of power to elevate his place in the herd (since his drive-bys not that productive lol). . Sorting out positions in the herd seems to be a primal activity, sometimes on a daily basis. I could be way off base. But even if I’m partially right, what makes Roni always go to Lena? (Maybe less resistance).
They have been friends for a long time, she's a nice horse and is well received by many others, so I expect she's good company :)
@@StableHorseTraining Yes he absolutely loves Lena, but he was also hanging around Ruli for awhile there. So it seems to me that he always prefers to be with a mare when the herd is in the arena. Is that true, cause I only get snippets of the reality you live in every day?
Great video
They are doing great for a mixed herd. So beautiful. So different. Beautiful all. Thank you. Go do your thing.
Lena is such a good horse
I love watching the horses and I love listening to you talk. Very entertaining and educational for me.
Thank you very much for this meeting between horses 👍👏 they are so relaxing to watch, so peaceful in their play and interaction. Little Miss behaves as if she had always been there 😍 Luke and Wildie are so interesting and funny to observe!
I love how you just hangout with them.
Enjoy watching this video of your horses.
great herd. Love watching and I love listening to you. It is nice to hear someone that really knows what's going on. The 2 bays are funny. It is obvious who is dominant. One does a lot of moving around, backing, threatening, while the other one (Roni?) bites at the legs, doesn't move his feet (on command that is) and when he does, it's never to the side or back, it is only forward. He keeps racking up the scores while the other one lets emotions keep him from winning (or leading I should say). Just love this
This has been a lot of fun to watch. I enjoy observing herd behaviors! I don't know much about your account, but your horses are beautiful and you handle them great from what I can tell.
I think I shall take that as a compliment :) thanks!
I like how you are managing your herd. I think both you and the horses are made better by it.
Fascinating behaviors and narrative. Love it!
Of COURSE they want friends and want to be friends 💞💞💞
I don't understand horses but this is fascinating
My gelding n mares run out together ,no problems once they have settled together , l find the mare s tend to rule the roost ... but they find their own way of getting along !
True enough!
After you said you don’t care about keeping mares and geldings separate and want all your horses to get along, I thought, I agree! Then i was thinking it’s a good thing your horses are so calm, what if a grumpy horse was introduced? I see lots of people online saying that their horses can not be turned out with others because of aggression etc. And they are right, the aggression does occur. But it just occurred to me that no matter what age, breed, background temperament horse you get they always end up getting along with your other horses. And i think the reason for this is that all of their needs are being properly met outside of the herd setting (properly fed and not in pain etc). Maybe this is obvious to some but it was a lightbulb moment for me lol.
Now i’m wondering; do you think there would be aggression if food was introduced? If you put 10 hay piles in the arena, like how many horses are kept in group pastures, would the demeanor change? Or are your horses secure enough not to be possessive of resources?
Very thought provoking stuff. Thanks Graeme!
What a great comment! And question, too. Will be looking for his answer. He’s always got great ones.
I think I've mentioned in a couple of videos lately that to figure out the actual hierarchy, I'd have to bring out food. When just hanging out or playing, it's not always easy to figure out the hierarchy as there is no real "survival" thing to work out between them.
I have in fact had "grumpy" horses here, there was one here last year named "Skip". He was grumpy for sure... He essentially wasn't confusing at all when it came to telling other horses what to do and it made me think twice about stepping in between. Either way, it all got sorted.
For the aggression that happens so regularly out and about and once in a while here, it's commonly due to being hungry and the horse is just constantly in survival mode. It's been proven a long time ago that horses that have regular and reliable food will be MUCH calmer and level headed. The horses here do have the ability to understand they don't have to "survive" here and in fact thrive. Food is readily available, nobody has ulcers and nobody is "starving" when they go out to play. There are a few playtimes here on video where you can tell the horses are a bit grumpy and competitive as they were put out before topping them up and they had run out early. It's a VERY important item in horse husbandry. So in the end I'm just confirming that you are correct in your observation.
If I were to put out 10 piles of hay, they would get sorted out in a few minutes, there *might* be a bit of jostling after that to "own" a pile, but for the most part they would be relatively calm I believe. I've seen that exact aggressive behaviors from horses that are starved all night due to running out of food within a few hours after being fed at 6pm and then 8am comes around and they'll beat the crap out of each other for survival purposes. It's sad...
Anyways, great observation and great question. Thank you for that!
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7 of them, well you could start a band, we know who the drummer is, the vocalist, now you need assign rest of roles for the rest of them :D
yup, bass, guitar and tambourine for sure, need one on a piano/keyboard and then the manager.
@@StableHorseTraining well you will be the manager :D We know drummer is Mr. Wilde, Baby is the vocalist but wonder who has rest of the roles, what you think?
So awesome
Mr Wilde filling out 👍
that was a nice video and real good to see the interactions.
Thank you for this video. I love to watch their conversations.
You're very welcome :)
Thank you for the info on your area, it's a gorgeous part of the country !!! I do love the north west & all of Canada actually. Your forest is lovely (there is nothing to compare to wind blowing through pines !!!)
Merry Christmas to you your family and all the horses
Thank you very much! Merry Christmas to you too!
The mixed herd in your case is a supervised one, so that makes a huge difference.
possibly
"...'kay let's get some more horses..." so great. Does the grey color have any effect on socialization? The Friesan Horse channel has 1 grey which is never accepted in the herd.
Just curious, is that all of the mares or just Jorges who decided to be the leader?
Ms Bizzy. That’s funny that you watch Waloubet (sp) on the Friesian channel. It’s the only other horse channel I subscribe to. You are so right that she’s not welcome in the herd, but I wonder if they tried a bit longer would it sort itself out?
I don't think color makes much of a difference, but I have seen horses appear to care.. hard to say.
@@kkdoc7864 it looks like she's rejected over and over. Poor girl. Strange that the Friesians respond to Sjors, though.
@@StableHorseTraining I don't know, but with the Friesians, as they are predominantly black (I've never seen any other colour) maybe they find the grey one strange! White versions of other species often get chased away or killed. They may be a threat to the survival of the herd/group/flock as they are very visible.
You showed us that beautiful mountain range view from your property. Is that part of the Lillooet range? It's a lovely sight!!!
Question, what's with the state of Gracey's tail? Kinda thin isn't it? Or is it just the way she holds it?
Gracie's tail is just how it is and has always been that way. She's an Arabian and a bit of a small horse, I've never looked at as thin before, perhaps it's the way she holds it.
Golden Ears mountain is what it's called. I don't believe it's part of that range as we're about an hour west of Harrison Lake, here is a excerpt from wikipedia:
The Lillooet Ranges are the southeasternmost subdivision of the Pacific Ranges of the Coast Mountains of British Columbia. They are located between the drainage of the Lillooet River and Harrison Lake on the west and the canyon of the Fraser River on the east, and by the lowland coastal valley of that river on the south. The Lillooet Ranges are approximately 8100 square kilometres in area. The range is extremely rugged and varied in terrain, and includes some of the highest peaks in southwestern British Columbia. The highest is Skihist Mountain, 2,968 m, crowning the Cantilever Range in the heart of the area to the west of the community of Lytton at the confluence of the Thompson and Fraser Rivers. The northernmost subdivision of the Lillooet Ranges is the Cayoosh Range, which includes the second-highest summit in the Lillooet Ranges, an unnamed 2,855 m peak just south of Seton Lake and about 20 km WSW of the town of Lillooet
Love your horses 🐎 Thanks for sharing! Merry Christmas ! 🎁🎄
This is my first time here and you have Such gorgeous horses!!! I'll love all their personalities! I subscribed cause I'm hooked!
Thank you very much! Welcome to the channel :)
I am gonna guess miss wildie is between 13 hands and 14 hands
That's about right
Maybe good hearted Lena is the only female who will pout up with Roni’s nonsense. 😃
Maybe she's telling him to do it
I bet if I were a horse, I'd try to keep Lena to myself too!! She's such a sweet girl, it seems. Good company.
Hi there 🥰 so I discovered these videos today and I'm fascinated already! I love this little family of horses. I love how different they all are, I could watch them for hours. Literally hehe. I was just wondering, what breeds are they all? He mentioned Gracie was an Arabian and Ronie is a quarter horses but I'm not sure about the rest of them. Does anybody know?
Hello! Welcome to the channel :) Here you go for your answers about the horses ua-cam.com/video/MOV35Dx1r80/v-deo.html
@@StableHorseTraining hehe I actually found this video like literally 5 minutes after I wrote that comment 😜 I really really like ur vids. I could watch them for hours! I love what you do. I love being able to watch how the horses interact and play with each other, how they split off into pairs and how they act differently depending on which other horse gets closer to them. And I love how they act around you too, often viewing U like Ur another horse, but also treating U like ur at the head of the herd. I am so envious of Ur life hehe. I wish I was in ur country so I could come visit U and Ur lovely ponies. Please give them all an apple for me ☺️🥰
All horses need mixed herds it’s more natural. Only separate if there is real danger of injuries or aggressive bullying. 😀
I agree
💖🐎...thank you...
I think all mammals form alliances and friendships. It’s a wonder. Okay, maybe not cats in the wild.
Question, why were they biting the gray mare in the beginning of the video? I don't know much about horses but I do love them.
That's a good question. Horses tend to test whether they can just nibble or push another horse around a bit to see where they are in the hierarchy. It's quite low level conversation where when a fighter might walk into a gym and look around to see who flinches and who stares back and who does nothing etc. Silent communication sometimes, sometimes it's not so silent.
@@StableHorseTraining oh. That is interesting. Thank you for answering. I always learn something when I watch videos like this and I just found this channel.
Welcome to the antics around here, I hope you enjoy your time watching. Please feel free to ask any questions you might have 😊
Get some of those large bouncy balls watch them play. Beautiful horses.
I tried in the past but they have never cared.
To your point dogs mixed can be fantastic.
Here we call mixed breeds, Heinz 57.
Would they act differently in a larger meadow for example ? I ask as I would ride my cousins horse that spent the day in a large pasture that belonged to the town and had mixed cows and horses and I never saw any signs of this behaviour ( which of course didn’t mean that it never occurred )
Such happy content horses lovely to watch🥰
In one of your videos you talked about how horses always need to be eating because of the acid forming in the stomach . There's nothing for them in the play area . How long should they be left with no food ? P.S. Happy Holiday to everyone .
It's true, I do say that, but because my horses are eating up until the point they go in they still have food in their stomach. I've looked around a lot and there is absolutely no hard proof of how long it takes to empty but I've never seen anything under 4 hours in all the studies I've seen, so I use that as my time limit and so far so good.
Mares and geldings!??? Mine have always been together (I only have four) and I have never seen a need to separate them. Ya, I know some people do, but some people like to waste their time. I am currently at a boarding stable with about 45 horses. Several herds. All mixed and they all get along. Great opportunity to watch herd dynamics and watch new encounters sort it out. In the end, they always get along if you give them the chance. That's what horses do. Leana is only high 13s? The rest must be real small. She looks like over 16 compared to the rest. Funny you have an Icelandic. I just watched a documentary about them...in Iceland. Very cool horses and very tough. I always liked them, but they aren't very common in this part of Canada. The horses do what they want until I step into the pasture and even the herd leader steps aside for me, but they all like me. I must be doing something right.
No, Lena is about 15 hands, the new horse is about 13 and so is the icelandic. No, we don't have many icelandics here but there are a couple of breeding farms in B.C. It sounds like you're doing something right if they are willing to get out of your way. That's what I want when I ask for it, when I don't then I expect them to stay. Which they do :) You want both. Have them pay attention to both the requests.
@@StableHorseTraining That's better. That would make the Icelandic a typical size. Lena still looks bigger than 15, but a video can fool you. My own are 13.5, 14.3 and two at 15. BC is about the only place I know of that has Icelandics in my country. I've never seen one in person but have watched lots of videos of them. I'd love to have one, but I think I own enough horses already.
I've only just started watching you, but I have a question that I'm curious about. Did the Dreamworks Movie "Spirit: Stallion of the Cimmaron" get horse dynamics alright? It seems like they did, but I'm not very well versed in the dynamics of horses.
I have no idea, never seen it. I'll try to check that out later on UA-cam or something.
How do we know when horses gonna yell?
Just experience I suppose...
What is Little Miss's breed?
Here's all the questions that I have about here answered: ua-cam.com/video/7SsmuXwXz4c/v-deo.html Her breed is unknown as she's a feral horse.
You might not see this but if u do you should just put roni in the arena with the boys only. no lena or other mares n see how he does
Just look over past videos, I've done that plenty :)
Horses do establish alien Ed and relationships. They experience joy and sadness. So do cows. We don’t give our four-leggeds enough credit. Oh, then there are elephants. They do the same. Probably better at all that than the two-leggeds.
Ok so I have to ask you seem super kind but there in the barn at night right
No, I don't torture my horses by putting them in tiny little stalls so they can eat, drink, stand and sleep in their own urine and feces. Where they can't get fresh air or watch their friends. Where they can't walk around and not feel trapped inside a building with absolutely no escape for hours or days to where their feet just start to rot away slowly and they have major body issues due to inaction. If you think none of this makes sense, that's ok. This channel is likely not for you as that type of archaic horse husbandry isn't used here. If you want to know more, please let me know, but I won't tolerate anybody coming here telling me that not putting them in a barn is abuse of some sorts when in fact it's the exact opposite.
Here's something that might be new to you I think: ua-cam.com/video/7YWaUsiFH54/v-deo.html
Luke is the big red gelding? Is he lame on the right front?
Does Ronnie want to be a mare or a stallion. Lol. JK
I truly love your herd,I am hooked 😍 ❤ on how you treat them.
ua-cam.com/video/gRxolEA1VnU/v-deo.html
This is a frisians stable in the Netherlands were I am from, who basically use your same method.
The mares are out with a gelding.
Their stallions of course can not be part of the herd.
But since you have mares and geldings it's nice to see how they interact and talk horse.
Why does roni keep bullying little miss 😩😩😩😩
Horses don't bully, what they do is protect their space or what they consider their own herd. We'll never know exactly why he doesn't want her in so close, but over time it has gotten much better :) Sometimes it just takes time to meld together.
I like it that you are in there with them
The two play fiends kill me.
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Being part of a herd is wonderful! I like to pretend I'm at least a little bit a part of the local herd here. It looks like Roni and Mr. Wild have not accepted little Miss, but that will happen, right?
I'm re-evaluating the displaced aggression idea from Mr. Wild towards Little Miss in that first video. Maybe her being in heat made him less aggressive towards her at first... I was so sure of my idea! Horses have a way of humbling you-in a good way, don't they?
Love that she has her new little posse of mares to hang with - gives her some backup. Her personality reminds me of Luke--such good natured, friendly souls.
Yes, they'll accept her more and more as time goes on. It's not an immediate thing sometimes as they continue to try to communicate in whatever dialect they have going on with her :)
Yes, horses humble me everyday as I watch and learn and wonder.