Since the moment he mentioned 'select sys call,' I didn't understand what he was saying. It's specialized knowledge about Linux and networking, which I'm not familiar with. Perhaps there should be a course that introduces async for the majority of learners, without such academic knowledge
I am putting this on pause at 38:56 to comment here. I've never thought it would be so interesting to listen about all the history and the path that led to Asycnio. Thank you.
Loving it! Especially the part about using blocking stuff in my async codebase. Sometimes it is not as convenient as it could be. Also, errors handling and debugging usually missed in such series, thanks for not skipping it!
19:58 Gilectomy -> overcoming the limitation of GIL is not easy. 23:13 the goal of asyncio -> maximize the usage of a single thread. 29:15 event loop -> Select syscall as a solution to waste of CPU or lag
Since the moment he mentioned 'select sys call,' I didn't understand what he was saying. It's specialized knowledge about Linux and networking, which I'm not familiar with. Perhaps there should be a course that introduces async for the majority of learners, without such academic knowledge
This is very well thought out and provides context, history and answers the WHYs before taking a shortcut to ide/code editor. Highly recommended for anyone interested in understanding crucial concepts behind the asyncio implementation. Looking forward to the rest of the episodes!
Your teaching style is not really good and not intuitive. Going through a series of PEPs and just briefly introducing them, how can viewers understand what you are saying? This is a lecture, not a movie. Viewers need to watch attentively and carefully to understand, unlike a movie where viewers can watch or not, or fast forward to another part, and viewers don't get a headache from watching a movie.
I wish you had (or would) create more such amazing in-depth playlists. Teachers like you make us fall in love with programming again and again. Thank you so much!!
I have been trying to learn AsyncIO in Python for a while now and this is by far the best (clear, concise, deep) resource I have found. Massive thanks to Lukasz and Edge DB team for arranging this!
Explained things so well! Loved hearing the history of asyncio to contextualize it's current implementation. To say you did your homework would be an understatement! Thanks again
i never thought, as someone who has been learning python since 8 weeks ago, that i would have such an intimate knowledge of a module before i ever knew how to implement it
Learning the fundamentals of Asyncio and building an app with Starlette and EdgeDB!? This will be the best UA-cam series for Python devs in the history of UA-cam Videos about Python!!!
this is amazing work. I've bounced off a half dozen asyncio tutorials but it's finally, finally starting to click for me. rlogin was my bathtub moment - many thanks.
Jestem absolutnie zachwycony twoim tłumaczeniem :D Miło słyszeć, że ktoś to tak świetnie tłumaczy - domyślam się, że nie tylko ja to mówię, ale i tak zostawiam komentarz dla zasięgu :P
Łukasz, this is some very, very, very in detail history knowledge which I'm deeply grateful to you! Thanks for your time and effort. I'm going to continue on rest of the movies! Buy this man a beer!
Hello. Your video is awesome! I am from Brazil, I started working with AsyncIO and python a few weeks ago, and your content is being so helpful. I hope you keep doing that. Congratulations!
Amazing piece of content. Thank you so much for such fantastic quality of information. Special mention for performing the donkey from shrek's "are we there yet" !
Congrats for this video! The most complete I`ve ever seen, specially the historic part. Knowing which concepts and early ideas participated in the creation/evolution of asyncio and its peers was great. Definetely I`ll check the rest of the series.
Very nice start to what promises to be a very interesting series. One thing I'm not sure about: one hand you say "the GIL is what makes python fast" and you work on asyncio to make it even faster; on the other hand I see Google starting the S4TF team to push for ML to be written in Swift because "python is slow". Who is right ?
Good question! Python is both a programming language that you see in your text editor, as well as a runtime that executes your program. It is impossible to think about Python just looking at the source code without thinking how it behaves - or can behave - at runtime. An important feature of Python is that nothing is private, everything is mutable and introspectable. Plenty of features of Python rely on this design. This puts some constraints on how fast native Python can run, for example due to very widespread usage of dictionaries, duck typing, and so on. When we're saying that the GIL is what makes Python fast, we mean that without the GIL the particular design that CPython is an implementation of, would be less efficient without a single global interpreter lock. Other programming languages have different sets of guarantees and features, sometimes very specifically chosen to allow better native performance. While Swift isn't particularly interesting in this space, we at EdgeDB are quite excited about Rust for systems programming. Our database server already includes Rust code for some performance-critical bits (which in the old times would typically be handled by writing a C extension).
When you talk about the event loop you often bring up the picture with those callbacks. It was always rather confusing to me. I finally understood what did you mean by it. Thanks
Since the moment he mentioned 'select sys call,' I didn't understand what he was saying. It's specialized knowledge about Linux and networking, which I'm not familiar with. Perhaps there should be a course that introduces async for the majority of learners, without such academic knowledge
Maybe it worth to cover ASGI as well before moving to Starlette, it would be consistent with the bottom to top approach you've chosen. I can't wait for the EdgeDB section though :)
Exactly wait I was looking for, after watching a couple of other tutorials on async(io) (around 30~45m each) I felt like they all barely touched base and put code on the screen way to fast for me to grasp all concepts.
Thank you for the video! I got a bit confused at about 12:45 where you explain who catches the error when adding to the dictionary and what thread propagates it. Could you please elaborate? Thanks in advance !
Hi Langa, Since the moment he mentioned 'select sys call,' I didn't understand what he was saying. It's specialized knowledge about Linux and networking, which I'm not familiar with. Perhaps there should be a course that introduces async for the majority of learners, without such academic knowledge @@llanga
Your teaching style is not really good and not intuitive. Going through a series of PEPs and just briefly introducing them, how can viewers understand what you are saying? This is a lecture, not a movie. Viewers need to watch attentively and carefully to understand, unlike a movie where viewers can watch or not, or fast forward to another part, and viewers don't get a headache from watching a movie. @@llanga
Your teaching style is not really good and not intuitive. Going through a series of PEPs and just briefly introducing them, how can viewers understand what you are saying? This is a lecture, not a movie. Viewers need to watch attentively and carefully to understand, unlike a movie where viewers can watch or not, or fast forward to another part, and viewers don't get a headache from watching a movie.
This series is the most complete AsyncIO tutorial on UA-cam. Massive thumbs up! :)
:( why it is hard
@@luxetim1541 😅
Since the moment he mentioned 'select sys call,' I didn't understand what he was saying. It's specialized knowledge about Linux and networking, which I'm not familiar with. Perhaps there should be a course that introduces async for the majority of learners, without such academic knowledge
I am putting this on pause at 38:56 to comment here. I've never thought it would be so interesting to listen about all the history and the path that led to Asycnio.
Thank you.
You're one of the few people on the planet who understanding the psychology of explaining things effectively. Great video.
Loving it! Especially the part about using blocking stuff in my async codebase. Sometimes it is not as convenient as it could be. Also, errors handling and debugging usually missed in such series, thanks for not skipping it!
19:58 Gilectomy -> overcoming the limitation of GIL is not easy.
23:13 the goal of asyncio -> maximize the usage of a single thread.
29:15 event loop -> Select syscall as a solution to waste of CPU or lag
Since the moment he mentioned 'select sys call,' I didn't understand what he was saying. It's specialized knowledge about Linux and networking, which I'm not familiar with. Perhaps there should be a course that introduces async for the majority of learners, without such academic knowledge
thanks a lot for the clarifications!
This is very well thought out and provides context, history and answers the WHYs before taking a shortcut to ide/code editor. Highly recommended for anyone interested in understanding crucial concepts behind the asyncio implementation.
Looking forward to the rest of the episodes!
Your teaching style is not really good and not intuitive. Going through a series of PEPs and just briefly introducing them, how can viewers understand what you are saying? This is a lecture, not a movie. Viewers need to watch attentively and carefully to understand, unlike a movie where viewers can watch or not, or fast forward to another part, and viewers don't get a headache from watching a movie.
I wish you had (or would) create more such amazing in-depth playlists. Teachers like you make us fall in love with programming again and again. Thank you so much!!
Came here after listening to you on the Real Python Podcast. This is some amazing insight into Python's AsyncIO. Keep it up!
I have been trying to learn AsyncIO in Python for a while now and this is by far the best (clear, concise, deep) resource I have found. Massive thanks to Lukasz and Edge DB team for arranging this!
讲的太好了,找了很久有关python asyncio相关的高级知识,现在终于看到了,谢谢你无私的分享
Explained things so well! Loved hearing the history of asyncio to contextualize it's current implementation. To say you did your homework would be an understatement! Thanks again
Thanks a lot for this video! Watched a lot of asyncio and no one had explained it as well as you did. Please keep sharing !!
Great lecture series. After spending hours online and looking at asyncio implementation, I am finally starting to get it. Thank you so much!
i never thought, as someone who has been learning python since 8 weeks ago, that i would have such an intimate knowledge of a module before i ever knew how to implement it
This is the BEST asyncio video I have watched so far! I'm bound to applaud
love it! keep doing tutorials, they are really nice
Awesome introduction, I need to check all these PEPs and libraries, learned a lot. Thanks EdgeDB.
Learning the fundamentals of Asyncio and building an app with Starlette and EdgeDB!? This will be the best UA-cam series for Python devs in the history of UA-cam Videos about Python!!!
Mate thank you for putting these together, you’re a great teacher.
this is amazing work. I've bounced off a half dozen asyncio tutorials but it's finally, finally starting to click for me. rlogin was my bathtub moment - many thanks.
A very thorough discussion! So informative, and the speaker is excellent.
Jestem absolutnie zachwycony twoim tłumaczeniem :D Miło słyszeć, że ktoś to tak świetnie tłumaczy - domyślam się, że nie tylko ja to mówię, ale i tak zostawiam komentarz dla zasięgu :P
This is a super super good video. I didn't expect such a comprehensive take on async await.
Łukasz, this is some very, very, very in detail history knowledge which I'm deeply grateful to you! Thanks for your time and effort. I'm going to continue on rest of the movies!
Buy this man a beer!
This explanation is the best I ever came across on the subject of asynchronous handling ❤
Hello. Your video is awesome! I am from Brazil, I started working with AsyncIO and python a few weeks ago, and your content is being so helpful. I hope you keep doing that. Congratulations!
i thought i will listen to core details in asyncio but man this is SO interesting i should watch the whole playlist! Thank you very much
OMG your explanation is one of the most comprehensive yet relaxed hence easy to understand.
Liked and subscribed!
You have an amazing channel Sir!
Amazing piece of content. Thank you so much for such fantastic quality of information. Special mention for performing the donkey from shrek's "are we there yet" !
Congrats for this video! The most complete I`ve ever seen, specially the historic part. Knowing which concepts and early ideas participated in the creation/evolution of asyncio and its peers was great. Definetely I`ll check the rest of the series.
Fellow ex. FB employee too. I worked in security. Great course to get me up to speed with this library.
great series. not easy to elaborate on this topic. thanks, teacher
Amazing detailed introduction to the history of asyncio and so much stuff about the ecosystem of coroutine in Python, loving it and thanks!
simple and circumstantially! Thank you!
This is so excellent! I will borrow the bartender analogy to explain concurrency from now on. Subscribed and thank you!
Wow! This is a gem....super impressed with the depth. Love this.
Very nice start to what promises to be a very interesting series.
One thing I'm not sure about: one hand you say "the GIL is what makes python fast" and you work on asyncio to make it even faster; on the other hand I see Google starting the S4TF team to push for ML to be written in Swift because "python is slow". Who is right ?
Good question! Python is both a programming language that you see in your text editor, as well as a runtime that executes your program. It is impossible to think about Python just looking at the source code without thinking how it behaves - or can behave - at runtime.
An important feature of Python is that nothing is private, everything is mutable and introspectable. Plenty of features of Python rely on this design. This puts some constraints on how fast native Python can run, for example due to very widespread usage of dictionaries, duck typing, and so on.
When we're saying that the GIL is what makes Python fast, we mean that without the GIL the particular design that CPython is an implementation of, would be less efficient without a single global interpreter lock.
Other programming languages have different sets of guarantees and features, sometimes very specifically chosen to allow better native performance. While Swift isn't particularly interesting in this space, we at EdgeDB are quite excited about Rust for systems programming. Our database server already includes Rust code for some performance-critical bits (which in the old times would typically be handled by writing a C extension).
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and explaining this hard to grab concepts with such elegance 👏
Thanks Łukasz for these videos and for the black formatter.
Łukasz big Thanks :). Your knowledge is huge and you are really good as you-tuber. I have tried this and it is no easy.
Wow! Thank you. I wish if you had a book about threadin in Python.
A true masterclass. Thank you!
Great tutorial! Thank you, Lukasz for taking the time and explaining asyncio.
Możliwe, że i ten komentarz jest dla zasięgu :P, ale w tym powiem, że też miło w końcu rozumieć skąd to wszystko się wzięło :D
You should make more videos. Really nice examples and thoughtful.
Love to see a detailed series on async
Crisp and detailed contents with nice presentation. :) --> and going to try edge DB
When you talk about the event loop you often bring up the picture with those callbacks. It was always rather confusing to me. I finally understood what did you mean by it. Thanks
wow, thank you! I hope I will obtain enough knowledge to implement Asyncio in my Flask project.
Very well prepared and presented. Thanks.
I just finished the podcast on Real Python came here for more :D
Correct me if I'm wrong. I have an example for deadlock, "You are trying to find job to gain experience, but need experiance to get a job"
Great content, exactly what I was looking for!
wow.. awesome content! thank you
Sometimes explaining just the main point is good rather than giving overwhelming information.
Since the moment he mentioned 'select sys call,' I didn't understand what he was saying. It's specialized knowledge about Linux and networking, which I'm not familiar with. Perhaps there should be a course that introduces async for the majority of learners, without such academic knowledge
Really nice explanation. Thanks
Splendid job 🤘
Amazing, thank you so much! :)
Great Explanation !!
Maybe it worth to cover ASGI as well before moving to Starlette, it would be consistent with the bottom to top approach you've chosen. I can't wait for the EdgeDB section though :)
What causes this? --> RuntimeError: asyncio.run() cannot be called from a running event loop
Jupyter problem?
It's been more than 5 months since the last video. Will you add the remaining parts or will we be left hanging midway ?
:/
Nice. Thanks.
The video where it clicked, thanks.
спасибо яндекс что я могу смотреть это видео на русском
но главное спасибо автору видео :)
Great stuff! Love it
Thanks. Very interesting
This is awesome. Thanks alot
Great Vedio!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly wait I was looking for, after watching a couple of other tutorials on async(io) (around 30~45m each) I felt like they all barely touched base and put code on the screen way to fast for me to grasp all concepts.
actually, just watched this first episode and am really pleased with the content. I'm going to watch the rest tomorrow.
That was precious.
Great video.. Seriously
really interesting tuts
Piekna sprawa.
Are there any articles or blogs that accompany the videos?
Very good
My doubt is, how that bartender (25:04) goes back to previous customers? please reply
what is the difference between qrequests and asyncio
Great series! when's the next video coming up?
We're uploading it right now. We'll be targeting to release at least one new episode per week.
Thank you for the video! I got a bit confused at about 12:45 where you explain who catches the error when adding to the dictionary and what thread propagates it. Could you please elaborate? Thanks in advance !
Super nice!
It would have been most amazing python async series if only black resorted to single quotes
"Mr White, I'm gonna teach you asyncio"
AWESOME!
Would it be as efficient as node's main loop ?
I was looking for copper and found gold
23:10 There's one more thing!
Just out of curiousity, how many times were you recording the part with 6 seconds sleep and adding another variable? :D
nice
Dude, you even mentioned K8S and Fargate in the introductory series. I gues this is not meant for someone who is fairly new to these things huh?
hi this is a great video but if with code programming is better and more example and write your example such as senario.
god willing
consider changing ur career to instructor, everything is just well exaplined.
Who's here from real python podcast?
I feel bad for the bartender
You have lost me on bartender analogy Łukasz ;) I guess you should see what real bartenders do in a busy place!
reading off the script
this guy is pretty average looking I guess
Awww, that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me ♥️
Hi Langa, Since the moment he mentioned 'select sys call,' I didn't understand what he was saying. It's specialized knowledge about Linux and networking, which I'm not familiar with. Perhaps there should be a course that introduces async for the majority of learners, without such academic knowledge
@@llanga
Your teaching style is not really good and not intuitive. Going through a series of PEPs and just briefly introducing them, how can viewers understand what you are saying? This is a lecture, not a movie. Viewers need to watch attentively and carefully to understand, unlike a movie where viewers can watch or not, or fast forward to another part, and viewers don't get a headache from watching a movie.
@@llanga
until minute 31 i liked the video but than u went way too indepth into history idc about
Your teaching style is not really good and not intuitive. Going through a series of PEPs and just briefly introducing them, how can viewers understand what you are saying? This is a lecture, not a movie. Viewers need to watch attentively and carefully to understand, unlike a movie where viewers can watch or not, or fast forward to another part, and viewers don't get a headache from watching a movie.