Apparently I said Shadow was an edge lord in Sonic 2006 in this video. I sincerely apologize for saying that, I don't know why I did, nor is there an excuse, Shadow's portrayal in Sonic 06 is one of his best appearances of all time imo.
Considering how many things the game got wrong, I won`t be surprised to see someone just assume it to get a few characters wrong too. But it`s a good thing you realized, technically his character ARK (Oh man I keep making this joke every time I`m about to say ``Shadow`s/ [pronoun referring to Shadow, which are not supposed to exist considering Shadow has no pronouns] character arc`` in comments or something) comes to full circle. He doesn`t hold any grudge against humans even after discovering that they will try to hunt him down in the future. He just proclaims that he will keep fighting even when the world becomes his enemy, he chooses to fight Mephiles to keep his promise to Maria-- The promise to give people a 2nd chance, let them live & learn. ``If the world becomes my enemy, I`ll fight like I always have...``.
@@brandonwilliams6119 What do you mean change your mind?! IT'S FACTS! We bonded with this character. This character feels loved by everyone! As for Sonic forces. Pff, "rookie", "partner"? They don't even talk. XD So yeah, no comparison.
My brother had this game. Neither of us ever beat it. We got to this one part where Knuckles had to fight a bunch of robots and it was an absolute nightmare and a half.
MegamanElric16 I never beat it because of a stage where you have to face Sonic, Shadow AND Knuckles, and they are the strongest characters in the game imo
Dude I beat it but holy fucking hell eggman was the cheesy piece of shit I have ever seen. He could fuck u up so much and I had to hit him at a certain point then move away
I remember one day I decided to replay it so I could see Gerald's diaries, and somehow I cheesed that part. Sadly, I forgot how I did... but still, the first time through was garbage and ruined an otherwise repetitive but okay game.
This game was very fun. Great story, the characters were the best they've possibly ever been, and Emerl was an intelligent way of introducing customization. The story fights were complete hell and far too often. Knuckles definitely made it even harder.
I feel Sonic Battle is impressive because it's on GBA, but it's limited heavily because it's on GBA. I liked and still like, to a lesser extent now, this game. I made my own custom combos and stuff like that. Like Chaos' dash attack confirms into anything. Every time I come back to this game though I think how the game could've benefited a whole lot more if it was on better hardware etc. I really do hope they try another Sonic fighting game though, I was really impressed by battle because all of that was done on a GBA, so it would be nice to see what they could do today.
Well i was an idioit and did the same but didn't finish it i reached as far as sonic and shadow vs emerl and i ended up saying fuck this and deleted the game but returned to the game and finished it
Rock Wait nvm I remember, I was talking about how the "remake" was sonic gather battles with the malware. No need to be rude to curse someone out for a simple mistake. And mistakes make us human. (Edit: Less of a mistake and more of a misunderstanding, but my point still stands.)
Instead of having Shadow on the box art they should've had Emerl fighting Sonic on the box art since i guess he's suppose to be the main character of the game i guess.
Yes, but Shadow and Sonic are the most popular characters by far and they always have been since shadow has been released, so from a marketing stand point, they probably sold many more units of the game than they would have otherwise
5:12 that code they used wasnt for him to unleash his true power, but for him to become free of the burden of becoming a mere weapon. The story was really dark, i mean the ending was Sonic killing what was escentially his son. Damn.
This is my favorite Sonic Game of all time. I kind of like how they gave Sonic depth to his movesets. Giving him shockwaves and Wind attacks to make him differentiate from Shadow. Who are mostly clones of each other in every game they are in. They only difference shadow normally has Chaos powers to make him different. And Sonic has different items. This game actually gives Sonic his own personality and movesets so I enjoy it. I wish they would remake this game and bring it to consoles that would be awesome.
The Young Family it would but I hope they make Knuckles better because I can not get use to him because his attacks are so slow but yeah I t need a port and with more characters but still have emerel
Demarkus 456 Knuckles attacks are high Damaging. You can use platforms to spam knuckles attacks or bombs. And than do infinites off of those. But the problem is you need the platform and it's situational. Yeah they could have done better with him but they also need to Nerf his damage.
Knuckles heal ability was really nice, that was a good way to exploit his abilities by running away healing until you either have to run again or have a one shot kill/enough health
Surprised to see how many people never finished the game. I finished it back in the day and loved it and played it again a few years ago and still loved it.
Sonic Battle was a fun game on the GBA. The negatives that I hated so much about the game: Virtual Training and trying so hard to get all of Emerl's Ultimate Skill cards.
I started replaying this game recently because I remember liking it as a kid. The rose-colored glasses came off pretty quick, unfortunately. It's painfully tedious, balance is pretty thoughtless, and to say the least, the soundtrack isn't "bad," but it didn't age too well. I also noticed the controls can be really unresponsive and sluggish, which isn't very fitting with the pace they were going for. All griping aside, I definitely agree that the characters and story were what carried the game. Especially Emerl. It was so wholesome watching him obliviously run around with literally everyone. The animations and attacks were cool too, but not "hey, I know you just won this fight, but let's do it over again with twice the stocks!" good. Overall, it's a flawed game, but I like it for what it is. A sequel with a slightly better battle system and WAY less emphasis on doing fights twice would've been great. Maybe on the DS? Sidenote: Rouge's infinite air and the speed of that reflective special move she has is so unfair. Good thing her AI doesn't exploit it...I, however, abuse it maliciously every time I use her 😂
Now I wish for a Sonic fighting game similar to Marvel vs Capcom. Add a story of the same caliber as Sonic Battle but with none or minimal padding and we'd have something great.
I once played this "sailing the seven seas" and had fun with it for like a day years ago. Then I got stuck on a fight against Robotnik's silver Emerl robots and put it down. Never picked it up again
i rage quited aaaaaaaaallllll the time in amy rose episode but yesterday i finnallllly finished knuckles the echidna and amy rose (to me the most raging episodes so far)
This game is weird to me. I enjoy the story, characterisation and aesthetics but the gameplay gets tedious really quickly and I find I always had to grind the shit out of Emerl to not feel limited all the time. An okay game. Gonna have to heavily disagree on the music; it's probably my favorite thing about this game and there are a ton of awesome tracks, but I've always been a sucker for rock songs made with limited hardware (also really like the Zero series ost much more than the remastered versions but maybe I'm just weird)
In my opinion that holds mostly true for Craft's battle theme since the original track's high point is the better quality guitar sample kicking in whereas the remastered track only uses the the better guitar sound throughout the remix. The remastered tracks in general felt a little softer than their original counterparts.
I have to admit that I actually like this game. Yeah, it's repetitive, but I enjoyed the combat, the story, and Emerl as a character. It's kind of underrated imo
When I first played this game I skipped though some dialogue in the first story by accident and didn't want to play again so I thought, "Meh, probably some talk about friendship." Turns out it was about emerl's skill customization. I PLAYED EMERL WITH HIS BASIC SKILLSET UNTIL CREAM'S STORY!!!!" I only discovered the skill menu by accidentally clicking the skill menu during shadow's story. I felt dumb and also wished i had recorded it because I thought it would be pretty cool to tell others about how i battled 3 E-102 copies without any extra abilities. I still have nightmares from that rogue fight where i can't get hit or it restarts.
Oh man this game. Takes me way back to like summer of 2004. I actually remember liking it a lot back in the day as me, my brother, and my two good friends growing up played this game a lot during summer vacation. I think the game shined best when you played it with friends as I remember we'd try to create our own perfect Emerl's and had free-for-all battles a lot trying to prove which one of us had the better robot lol I couldn't remember much of the story as I only beat it once and didn't go back to replaying it because I got too focused practicing with Knuckles (who was my main) or my Emerl robot lol Anyway good review, I can understand why this game wouldn't be everyone, especially now in 2017. Heck I remember trying to play the game in 2015 and I wasn't enjoying it as much as I did back in 2004 but it happens right? Can't wait for the Sonic Advance 3 review. :)
I hate that Amy is treated as nothing but Sonics crazy fan, it’s stupid that some games make her defining trait being crazy for Sonic This is the only time I will ever say anything good about Boom Amy wasn’t crazy for Sonic in the Boom series, she liked him but it was a genuinely normal attraction for him. And that’s how it should be
It's so weird how Shadow and Rouge play big roles in Battle but still don't appear in Advance 3 at all. It would be interesting to see Shadow's reaction to Gemerl as a bastardized copy of Emerl Though I do think that GBA audio skung only adds to the music in this game, I love the crunchy sound, works really well with the fighting gameplay and the sharp, neon art style
This game was so fucking awesome, one of the games i will always remember from childhood lmao. Just being able to play as E102R was probably my favourite
Dude! I was addicted to this game when it came out. A lot of my friends got this game which made us spam all the multiplayer games til our batteries died. I want a reboot of this! It's a legit fighting game outside the campaign if you ask me.
@@kayaplaaya9875 most ppl have had experiences like that because they were 5 for so years old when they first played it like myself way back. i also beat the entire game as default emerl and ive seen a ton of other ppl say the same because we were about 5 years old, dumb, and didn't read shit so didn't know anything. xd
Very cool story, but it's a miserable chore to play, the CPU reads your inputs, so the way you learn to play is by cheesing it out, which isn't what the battle system is made for. It's probably actually fun in multiplayer tho.
4:21 Yeah, Amy's characterization is definitely one of the weakest points of Sonic Battle, which I can't deny turns me off from this game completely. It's like, this game has such a good story and handles the characters so well, even giving Cream actual character development (something she's frequently criticized for lacking, among other things), but Battle fails so thoroughly with Amy it's not even funny. Battle's portrayal of Amy is honestly up there with Rush and Sonic X as one of the worst as not only is she presented as legitimately crazy for Sonic to the point of hallucinating him, but she also becomes genuinely obsessed with being exercising and losing weight (which brings to mind anorexia), and being obliviously abusive to Cream, who is supposed to be her best friend! I know it's quite overkill to dislike a game because it fumbles with a single character in terms of writing, but Amy is a character I care about a great deal and I just *hate* how the franchise butchered her character to the point of everyone viewing her as a "psycho". Amy is supposed to be a loving and loveable, cheerful and positive character who looks out for everyone and loves Sonic because of how heroic he is. Amy can be a bit too energetic, think more with her heart rather than her head, and be a little too eager for Sonic's affections, but overall she's supposed to be a character you can like and root for. Sonic X and certain moments from certain games butchered those aspects of Amy's character and ruined her for the majority of people, making her one of the most disliked characters in this franchise. Battle, being such a well-written game with a truly compelling story, could've repaired the damage done to Amy's character if not prevent her reputation from going down the crapper. But instead, this game ended up fueling and fanning the flames. And, well, it's disappointing to say the least lol Sorry for that rant ^_^; Just anted to give my own opinion on Battle that hasn't already been given. Awesome review, by the way :D You really nail every aspect of this game! And *thank you* for being an internet reviewer who DOESN'T bash on the characters just for existing
As someone who has Amy as one of their favorite characters (I feel in the minority there) I completely agree that Sonic Battle characterizes her terribly. Along with Sonic Rush and Sonic X. (especially that scene where she's oblivious toward how she acts when looking at a picture she's not pleased with) It completely contradicts Amy's sister bond with Cream from Sonic Heroes. In Sonic Heroes, sure Amy was boycrazy over Sonic, but she was never above helping out Big and Cream, in fact she puts their own priority of helping them find their friends over her finding Sonic. She also interacts in a more friendly way to where you can by them as friends. In Sonic Battle that's not the case, in both Battle and Rush she's hard on Cream. Sadly this was also the game where the characters began to get flanderized. Even Knuckles is terrible in Battle. In fact Amy acts so much different here, than in the Adventure games and Heroes. Tails is afraid to talk to Amy, Amy has more of a temper/impatient nature (even though in Adventure 1 & 2 she only slightly annoyed them in an innocent way, but was still friendly in how she interacted with them) and her crush on Sonic only lasted one or two scenes, it was never her only character expanded throughout the game. It also forgets to balance Amy's positive traits with her craziness for Sonic. Also Cream's story campaign is the most pointless in the game, as it virtually adds nothing to the plot.
Exactly! People like to blame Heroes for mischaracterizing Amy, but aside from that stupid "Team Rose vs. Team Sonic" cutscene (which, let's be real, is no dumber than the other team battle cutscenes lol), Amy was good in Heroes! Amy was determined to find Sonic and win him over but she was more focused on helping Cream and Big rescue their kidnapped friends and was a true big sister to Cream, motivating her to keep persevering when the going got tough. Truly, Amy's crush on Sonic was balanced by her positive qualities AND she was a great partner to Cream. Battle, on the other hand, turns Amy's crush on Sonic into a literally crazy obsession and has her being abusive to Cream, which makes me question HOW that even got into the script in the first place -_-* And yeah, the less said about *that* scene in Rush, the better (I honestly hate Sonic Rush now because of how that game not only has Amy treating Cream badly, but has Cream being partners with Blaze and developing a compelling relationship with her, most likely killing off Amy and Cream's friendship for good) Yeah, I really wish they would just go back to characterizing Amy the way they did in the Adventure games and Heroes; being a cheerful, optimistic girl with an overt crush on Sonic who nonetheless can kick ass and is motivated to be a hero to protect those who can't defend themselves. Fans like to claim that Lost World and Forces improved Amy's character, but I fail to see that :/ Her crush on Sonic in those games was practically removed from her character (which is a BIG deal to me because, like it or not, Amy's romantic affection for Sonic is a core part of her character; shouldn't dominate her character just as Tails' intellect and Cream's innocence shouldn't dominate theirs, but an essential part of her) and she willingly stands in the sidelines while Sonic, Tails, and others do all the work. Sure, Adventure 2 had Amy standing idly, but she clearly wanted to do important stuff and ultimately got Shadow to change his ways, while in Forces Amy was doing computer work for 99% of the game, only getting out into the field alongside everyone at the very end...
With Amy most people feel she's better when she doesn't love Sonic. However I feel her attraction toward him adds more to his character. Plus I feel Amy works fine having other characters to bounce off of so that her attraction doesn't take up her whole character. Like in Sonic Heroes, while she's more crazy in chasing Sonic compared to the Adventure titles, she's not above helping Cream & Big and at one point even motivating them like a leader should. Plus when she finds Sonic in the end it sorta felt like an end reward and she even waves to them goodbye before she leaves. Plus even in other instances when she fawns over him such as Adventure 2 where she kind of annoys Tails a bit, Amy's attraction was more innocent than than harmful. She's just a girl who's caught up in her own world and having a good intent to rescue Sonic. She never intended to come off as annoying Tails. Plus in Adventure 2 she wanted to be included by everyone and when she did fawn over Sonic it was either innocent or a joke (such as the jail scene) In much later appearances it's the opposite. In Sonic Battle she's quite aggressive when talking to Tails to the point Tails is nervous and seems to only care about him simply because Sonic's with him. Compared to Adventure 1 and 2, where while their interactions were brief she still interacted with him in a friendly manor. That's the kind of characterization I wanna see from Amy, still having a huge attraction to Sonic, while still being his Fangirl, but her attraction comes off as Self aware and affectionate, rather than obsessive, unaware and aggressive. In fact the closest game since Heroes to have Amy to this extent was Sonic Unleashed. While she does run and hug him, she's more innocent and she comes off as supporting Sonic will save the day as always. I also agree. While I do like the fact Lost World and Forces try to take Amy back to her Adventure 1 roots and do consider her character as likable. Her attraction to Sonic is basically non existent. There's a difference between maturity and completely forgetting. In Forces it seemed jarring that knowing Sonic's dead she just seemed slightly disappointed. Compared to 06 where she was on the floor crying when she saw him dead briefly. Still I don't hate those portrayals of Amy, I just wish she was given more to do with her more nurturing personality. And don't even get me started on how Sonic Free Riders treats Amy. Ugh! It's by far the worst characterization of her character. Even worse than Sonic Battle, which could be considered an easy runner up.
I feel like they just didn't know what to do with her, maybe they missed out on Adventure, where she actually ditched Sonic to go help a little bird save his family, but in Battle she felt more like your stereotypical crazy gf from some anime or another. I'm not sure where that came from, but it's really odd considering how they nailed down pretty much everyone else but her. Except maybe Gamma, who still apparently isn't really Gamma, or something?
In fact that's not Gamma in this game but a new robot dubbed "Chaos-Gamma", he's similar in design and moves (heck he even has the same name) but is a more loyal machine to eggman that took wayyyyyyyy more time to be struck by amy and cream's friendliness, and who instead of being powered by animals is powered by chaos emeralds. He's one of the most persistent of eggman's robots, challenging the main cast multiple times during the game... come to think of it i don't think this guy ever got enough credit.
I managed to beat this game and don't recall it being a chore...but that's probably because I have very few memories of it, so I may have just forgotten how much trouble it gave me. Anywho, I remember the following: 1) I gave my Emerl white and gold colors to make it feel godly and go with the fully-evolved, fully-powered schtick. I gave Emerl almost every move you could that hits multiple times per attack...Had trouble stringing Gamma's multi-hit uppercut into Tails' multi-hit combo finisher though, since the two moves weren't designed to work together. That said, I have NO IDEA what that crazy barrage of attacks J has on his Emerl is! What power is this!? 2) Shadow struck me as an edge lord in this game, as I only remember him waxing philosophical about the likes of him, Emerl and Gamma only being born/created for the purpose of war and treating Gamma as a pathetic lost cause...Oh, and Gamma being here but not Omega was always weird; guess Heroes and Battle didn't communicate during production. 3) Rouge's story is the only one with a weird difficulty spike that I remember. Her story ends with her fighting Sonic 1-on-1, cutscene, fighting Sonic and Tails 2-on-1, cutscene, fighting Sonic, Tails and Knuckles 3-on-1...cutscene. At the very least, you can lose the second fight and still progress, because that's what happened to me...No idea how I won the last fight, but I remember Rouge calling out the BS on this encounter and I couldn't help but agree...Kinda makes Team Sonic look stupid too, losing despite having such a huge advantage and them working together so well in other games. 4) Tails has a fight against Rouge you can optionally lose, which gives you a different cutscene than if you won. I lost that fight on purpose because it sounded more interesting than getting another Standard Win Scene and it just made sense, as I didn't believe Tails could beat Rouge, even back then. Anywho, cool video for a cool game. Kinda weird how early Sonic spin-off games tended to suck, but later Sonic spin-off games (like Battle and Riders, not Shadow) were actually good. Makes you wonder if they could do another fighting game somewhere down the line and what that'd be like...Y'know, provided Sonic Team at some point treats everyone besides Sonic like they can actually do anything so that a fighting game starring them could be conceivable.
I played this game so much on emulator in my young days. This was time when I got wirless gamepad for PC. This game just want you to grind it. I admit all what you say, because I feel the same. As Sonic fan and fighting fan I think devs have interesting battle systems with this limits. It's have unique gimmick like 3d arena or "custom your fighter". You can spent long time to making your own build. But as a fighting game it have problems - too many lives stocks, too many Gammas, instakills. Also, good fighting games give you: a) combo routes that give you some advantage or as I can say "make sense" b) core gameplay builded on "rock-paper-scissors". In this game we have combo that lead to strong punch that slams your enemy to wall, and we have combo that leads to "launcher" that launch enemy to ceilling. 1st route is ok. Enemy can safely bounce off wall if you push direction button in right time. Enemy also can counter attack you when you pursue him in air. But 2nd route is uselees - it's less damage and help your enemy to easly escape your pressure because you launch him so hight. Why "launcher" lift enemy to stratosphere? Also it's major waste of time to battle with Rouge because CPU don't know how to fly/land with her "flight mode". In fighting game the primary objective of "launcher" is to add more damage to combo. Also it's hard to hit something in 3d perspective especially on big arena. "rock-paper-scissors" have few issues. Player need some tools to bypass blocks, or block mechanic that can be more reliable. Circle guard is fine as defence versus group of enemies, but you can easly wiff it and make yourself defenceless. Attacks in this game is really quick so I don't know how you can "keep your distance" or playing "mind games" in random scenarios.
This game has a major potential They could do a console version of this Nerfing Rouge's air kick Buffing Knuckes and Chaos speed And doing a Budokai Tenkaichi Style fighting game, or just an arena fighter
I feel like Rouge's air kick was probably an oversight more than anything. Some moves were clearly meant to be weaker and stronger than others though, like Shadow's bomb skills, because they're just 1-star skills, compared to his other moves. Unless I'm wrong, both Knuckles and Chaos had the highest support cards for offense and defense, giving them more damage and hit points than most, hence why their movesets were pretty trash.
Club Rouge song is the goat of the game. SA2 I believe there’s a stage song that mirrors this one but more toned down and vocals in the bg are easier to understand.
I remember finishing this game several times after I first found it while searching for games to enioy in a just-discovered GBA Simulator. I will forever stay by my opinion that this game is an gem with potential that deserves a remake the most. I just love everything with this game BUT the awful moments like having to bother with Emerl's weak ass at the early game, or the repeated Gamma fights one after another. The customization of Emerl is the best thing in here. I may not be great at bothering to try various combinations, but it just feels great to progress by getting new cards, or trying to make Emerl be different characters, like that one guide of how to make Emerl Silver, a video which always hits me with nostalgia.
I really don't know what you are on about guys, I personally thought this game was super easy to defeat, so I never experienced the like you called it "slog" of a play through, I really enjoyed this game. And again I personally enjoyed Club Rouge and Holly Summit in the OST a lot, so for me this game always felt like a 8/10 a really solid game that I play annually every year because it just makes me smile, the nostalgia, the fighting mechanics, I know I might be alone on this but this is my favourite Sonic Game.
I had this game as a kid and I do recall the padding. However I thought it was a fun little game. The one thing I couldn't stand though was trying to get all the ultra powerful moves Emerl could use in his final battle. If you died once, at anytime, you had to start over.
Taking the story elements of this game,this game is pretty dope on the Multiplayer department. Me and my girlfriend had a really good time kicking each other asses. Even, with some characthers being Nerfed and Buffed
This game's difficulty is insane. The things the game expects you to do are just unfair. I was stuck on so many missions and I still haven't beat it. And to be honest: I don't want to beat it. It's not worth my time. This is one of those Sonic games I'll never touch again.
I was fortunate enough to have 4 friends all have this game for rotating multiplayer. This need to be re-released on switch as a Sonic Advance Collection
2:20 Not sure on that, one guy I watched pointed out that Shadow's story in this game, at least his characterization, along with a lot of weird level and map ideas (like Rouge owning a club out of nowhere and Knuckles suddenly being the one to be able to just chill and watch the news at his home which isn't even called Angel Island), don't really work with any of the previous entries. It's sort of somehow both a continuation of those older games but also delved off in it's on little split timeline/universal bubble. Mostly because Shadow's character in this is really only built off the version of Shadow from earlier in SA2 before the ending which is physically impossible since could only take place after Shadow '05 but at the end of that game he renounces his past, yet in this one he's going on about Maria, although he keeps his more competitive smug side which I think works, and for some reason he has the attitude to consider & refer to himself The Ultimate Lifeform which...I mean...after SA2...he SHOULDN'T or DOESN'T as far as I know (also granted, I never really liked the plot point of him basically renouncing his past in the first place, cause at least to me, yeah sure he becomes his own person, but it feels like an excuse to not be burdened by Maria's promise to protect the world and give it a second chance, yet he continues to do so anyway, plus just the fact that he is always by himself and never interacting with anyone feels like it just goes against what maria would have wanted for him, he continues to act like he's still back on the Ark, up and above/away from any and everyone, alone in his own bubble, at least to me, Shadow should have carried on the memory of Maria and Gerald in some way by at least TRYING to be sociable but just be awkward at it, I mean for Pete's sake he lived in a space station in isolation with only one friend for most, of if not all, his life, yeah he wouldn't be good at socializing like Knuckles but I'd at least appreciate SOME effort). Granted I would like this game and the Advance games to be canon, but at least with Battle here, there needs to be some retconning here and there to make it more cohesive for the overall series' story along with being a more clean cut story even if it's left by itself. Although keeping some of the general story themes in this should be a must, like Cream's story. A reason why some of these weird plot points are there, at least according to the guy that did the video, suspects that the team behind the game had heard that Shadow was returning for Heroes due to it being in development at the time and assumed how he was going to be utilized but also just missed the whole point of his character and a lot of the implications in SA1 and 2. All this coming down to poor communication.
just started this game the other day, the repetitive fights and the difficulty spikes are annoying but for the most part I actually really like sonic battle
As much as I enjoyed this game as a young child and have many memories, I remember being so stumped on it, I begged my mom to take me to Gamestop and ask the employee for help defeating the levels. LOL
I don't know why there's so much hate. I greatly enjoyed this game, given that this was GBA game. This is very Super Smash bros for GBA. Each character are all quite unique, with even normals being all different. Even their normal attacks are quite different (different power, speed, range, etc). That makes this a very unique fighting game. But the real joy comes from the customizable character, Emerl. You mix/match all the attacks/defend. For example, I give Sonic's first attack, but I give E-102's 2nd/3rd attack, then finish with Rouge's 4th attack. Then I give Rouge's air action, while giving Cream's air attack, while giving Shadow's dive attack. And that's just the normal attacks. And due to limited point system, you can't give your character "everything powerful and awesome". It really makes the customization fun. I had a lot of fun with this game. The final boss is a bitch though.
The game is so awesome and so emotional at the end . It really deserves a remake. It has some super hard levels but they are beatable. And for those who hasn't played the game , it is available on android
I like to imagine how would this game be perfected if remade, but there's always some element that feels hard to improve without losing the essence, like the repetitive combat.
When I was younger I always found chaos to be my favorite character because he was so unique and mysterious. He is extremely slow but his attack combo is so damn lethal the moment you get caught in it you know you are already dead and there is no escape. I got back to this game just now and Im glad Im still enjoying it.
I actually beat this game as a kid but I do remember it being hard as hell. Grinding for the ultimate Emerl upgrades was also a giant pain. I quit doing that with several upgrades left because it really made no sense after beating the game. Maybe someday...
@Super Sapphire Sisters - Supersonic Robot Blast I know right. But honestly I had a lot of fun with the game. Probably played it much longer than most, because at that age I lived and breathed Sonic hahaha.
Positive note: Probably the best GBA game to have attempted true 3d rendering. Sin: It attempted 3D rendering on the GBA (and the aforementioned padding).
Also a tip for hard fights. Emerl vs knuckles ep1. Equip sonic uper attack then spam combo:1 attack 2 attack 3attack upper until knuckles is dead. Beacuse CPU are stupid they cant avoid this combo.ep2 doesn't have many annoying fights but if you are having trouble use dash attack then spam air attack. Very good combo. Rouge and Emerl vs Sonic and Amy ep3. Spam specials. Knuckles vs guard robos(3) ep4. Spam traps. Use this strategy in all fights in ep4. Ep5 isnt that difficult. There are a lot of fights when you are Emerl. Ep6 Spam Cream's air attack and power special. Ep7 Shadow combo:1attack 2 attack 3 attack upper attack then quickly air attack. Ep8 Emerl vs Eggman spam uppers. Sonic vs Emerl. Very hard spam specials
I would say in spite of repetition being there at certain points of the game, it's a pretty good game in my eyes. I think things like a custom Emeral is a pretty neat thing I would say. And yeah, I know there's some inherent problems with the game but I feel like for what you get, it's not bad imo. It's a shame we never got a sequel to Sonic Battle since it has a lot of potential with the custom Emeral system but I would say I enjoyed my time with it mostly. I will note one thing though you might want to know. Some of your game footage does look a little uncompressed. By that I mean it doesn't look right in certain areas. (Here's some points when it's especially noticeable: 2:57-2:58 & 16:55-16:56.) I'm not sure if it has to do with your emulator or an accidental mistake that wasn't seen earlier or whatever. Besides that problem, I would say this review was pretty good.
+Super Gamer61499 Well Amy's and Cream's playthrough was corrupted. But since those story clips were necessary I figured having it on screen for a few seconds wouldn't be worth redoing those playthroughs.
I never liked how Emerl can capture the same damn skills he already captured, and the skills you get are completely random no matter if you shame the same move while fighting with Emerl against someone. It makes an already repetitive game very monotonous.
TBH, I enjoyed everything in this game, but prolly because I liked battling, even though battles were hard, such as against Knuckles. I hated fighting as Rouge against Sonic, Tails and Knuckles, though. Very frustrating.
I'm pretty much in the same boat. Everything about the presentation, bar the GBA sound quality being really apparent, is top notch. The game is pretty good in general, it's just...the campaign execution threatens to ruin a good game.
I still hated ending of this game though. I mean i guess they wanted to make an emotional story i guess which i guess is sort of fine i think but i expected it to have an happy ending since you would see how Emerl interact with these characters and such. I mean i guess you get see him again rebuilt or something in Sonic Advance 3 i guess (if that is even the same Emerl that is) i would've rather have a happy ending where Emerl would return to his friends and such, hell we could've had him as a playable character in future Sonic games after this if they didn't or at least shouldn't go with this ending route since i think i would like to play as him in future Sonic games and all in my opinion.
Apparently I said Shadow was an edge lord in Sonic 2006 in this video. I sincerely apologize for saying that, I don't know why I did, nor is there an excuse, Shadow's portrayal in Sonic 06 is one of his best appearances of all time imo.
J's Reviews his final line in his story is honestly the best thing he has ever said.
@Johannes Brahms His opinion changed.
Shadow the Edge-hog?..ill see myself out
Considering how many things the game got wrong, I won`t be surprised to see someone just assume it to get a few characters wrong too. But it`s a good thing you realized, technically his character ARK (Oh man I keep making this joke every time I`m about to say ``Shadow`s/ [pronoun referring to Shadow, which are not supposed to exist considering Shadow has no pronouns] character arc`` in comments or something) comes to full circle. He doesn`t hold any grudge against humans even after discovering that they will try to hunt him down in the future. He just proclaims that he will keep fighting even when the world becomes his enemy, he chooses to fight Mephiles to keep his promise to Maria-- The promise to give people a 2nd chance, let them live & learn. ``If the world becomes my enemy, I`ll fight like I always have...``.
He is a edge lord
Emerl is the original Avatar character
First character you can customize
@@Zer0Zwei OC *DONUT STEEL*
Emerl is better than the Forces OC change my mind.
@@brandonwilliams6119 What do you mean change your mind?! IT'S FACTS! We bonded with this character. This character feels loved by everyone! As for Sonic forces. Pff, "rookie", "partner"? They don't even talk. XD So yeah, no comparison.
My favorite sonic charter soon to be my profile pic.
OR mighty the armordillo
My brother had this game. Neither of us ever beat it. We got to this one part where Knuckles had to fight a bunch of robots and it was an absolute nightmare and a half.
Oh, I HATE that.
MegamanElric16 I never beat it because of a stage where you have to face Sonic, Shadow AND Knuckles, and they are the strongest characters in the game imo
Dude I beat it but holy fucking hell eggman was the cheesy piece of shit I have ever seen. He could fuck u up so much and I had to hit him at a certain point then move away
Yeah I don't know what they were thinking with that fight. That might have been my very first ragequit as a kid.
I remember one day I decided to replay it so I could see Gerald's diaries, and somehow I cheesed that part. Sadly, I forgot how I did...
but still, the first time through was garbage and ruined an otherwise repetitive but okay game.
Wish there was a sequel for this game.
+PhantomR I wish it got released on the Wii U Virtual Console so that I could at remap the shoulder button actions to the other two face buttons.
Me too. One on consoles would be super nice.
100 likes after 2 years
While you wait, this game seems to be very similar to Power Stone on the Dreamcasr and PSP.
Now I want a Power Stone 3.
I think advance 3 is a sequel
This game was very fun. Great story, the characters were the best they've possibly ever been, and Emerl was an intelligent way of introducing customization.
The story fights were complete hell and far too often. Knuckles definitely made it even harder.
I feel Sonic Battle is impressive because it's on GBA, but it's limited heavily because it's on GBA. I liked and still like, to a lesser extent now, this game. I made my own custom combos and stuff like that. Like Chaos' dash attack confirms into anything. Every time I come back to this game though I think how the game could've benefited a whole lot more if it was on better hardware etc. I really do hope they try another Sonic fighting game though, I was really impressed by battle because all of that was done on a GBA, so it would be nice to see what they could do today.
Honestly, if this game was remade for consoles, I would play the hell out of it.
I honestly think this is the best version of Shadow from a writing perspective we have ever seen or played as to date.
@@goofygoober779 Yh man cause he isn’t a sonic copy also in chronicles he’s pretty cool
my dude, why do you understimate the gba?? this is one of the most powerful handheld, believe me dude this guy was cheating.
I beat the whole story with Emerl's original moveset, one of his Ground Special attacks are unguardable and is a 4 hit KO
Well i was an idioit and did the same but didn't finish it i reached as far as sonic and shadow vs emerl and i ended up saying fuck this and deleted the game but returned to the game and finished it
It also works on the air version, just do the crappy jump then immediately do the special.
This shit needs to be in EVO
Sshexoid it is bruh
+memillo It also needs a remake.
tim5fl It did, but it had secret malware. If you want more information, search sonic gather battle on yt.
Rock Something is up, I'm not this level of stupid normally, so I don't remember when or why I typed that. Sorry for burning your brain cells
Rock Wait nvm I remember, I was talking about how the "remake" was sonic gather battles with the malware. No need to be rude to curse someone out for a simple mistake. And mistakes make us human.
(Edit: Less of a mistake and more of a misunderstanding, but my point still stands.)
Instead of having Shadow on the box art they should've had Emerl fighting Sonic on the box art since i guess he's suppose to be the main character of the game i guess.
Yes, but Shadow and Sonic are the most popular characters by far and they always have been since shadow has been released, so from a marketing stand point, they probably sold many more units of the game than they would have otherwise
Isaiah Rivers If you had Sonic fighting Emerl then it would spoil the ending
Sonic and Shadow are rivals and this is a game all about fighting so it made sense.
5:12 that code they used wasnt for him to unleash his true power, but for him to become free of the burden of becoming a mere weapon. The story was really dark, i mean the ending was Sonic killing what was escentially his son. Damn.
This was my childhood..it will stay there because I don't want my memory tainted
This is my favorite Sonic Game of all time. I kind of like how they gave Sonic depth to his movesets. Giving him shockwaves and Wind attacks to make him differentiate from Shadow. Who are mostly clones of each other in every game they are in. They only difference shadow normally has Chaos powers to make him different. And Sonic has different items.
This game actually gives Sonic his own personality and movesets so I enjoy it. I wish they would remake this game and bring it to consoles that would be awesome.
The Young Family it would but I hope they make Knuckles better because I can not get use to him because his attacks are so slow but yeah I t need a port and with more characters but still have emerel
Demarkus 456 Knuckles attacks are high Damaging. You can use platforms to spam knuckles attacks or bombs. And than do infinites off of those. But the problem is you need the platform and it's situational. Yeah they could have done better with him but they also need to Nerf his damage.
Knuckles heal ability was really nice, that was a good way to exploit his abilities by running away healing until you either have to run again or have a one shot kill/enough health
Surprised to see how many people never finished the game. I finished it back in the day and loved it and played it again a few years ago and still loved it.
Same. But I'll definitely say it's way less frustrating with save states, if only to get those 5 points wins.
Getting the Ultimate Skill cards for Emerl was some of the most fun I've had in a video game. This game was good.
Masked Guy - I still never got all of them. I only have like 4 of his ultimates, it’s ridiculous. Loved the game as a kid though
Sonic Battle was a fun game on the GBA. The negatives that I hated so much about the game: Virtual Training and trying so hard to get all of Emerl's Ultimate Skill cards.
Dustin Nunn - I still haven’t gotten all his ultimate cards
I started replaying this game recently because I remember liking it as a kid.
The rose-colored glasses came off pretty quick, unfortunately. It's painfully tedious, balance is pretty thoughtless, and to say the least, the soundtrack isn't "bad," but it didn't age too well. I also noticed the controls can be really unresponsive and sluggish, which isn't very fitting with the pace they were going for.
All griping aside, I definitely agree that the characters and story were what carried the game. Especially Emerl. It was so wholesome watching him obliviously run around with literally everyone. The animations and attacks were cool too, but not "hey, I know you just won this fight, but let's do it over again with twice the stocks!" good.
Overall, it's a flawed game, but I like it for what it is. A sequel with a slightly better battle system and WAY less emphasis on doing fights twice would've been great. Maybe on the DS?
Sidenote: Rouge's infinite air and the speed of that reflective special move she has is so unfair. Good thing her AI doesn't exploit it...I, however, abuse it maliciously every time I use her 😂
I enjoyed this game a lot when I was a kid, was a lot of fun and shadow was cool as fuck with the purple energy things
You mean chaos control?
Am I the only one upset by the sonic x adaptation? Emerl only has a relationship with Cream and Cheese, and the plot is almost entirely different.
Same
Now I wish for a Sonic fighting game similar to Marvel vs Capcom. Add a story of the same caliber as Sonic Battle but with none or minimal padding and we'd have something great.
Marius Urucu that would be awesome
Amy's problem has a name and it's called puberty
No, it's called
"pointless bed writing because we can"
I remember this game was hard af as a kid. I had such a hard time in so many sections of this game but i used to love it
I once played this "sailing the seven seas" and had fun with it for like a day years ago. Then I got stuck on a fight against Robotnik's silver Emerl robots and put it down. Never picked it up again
+TheSideQuestGamerReviewShow Alec have you REALLY been on a cruise?
i rage quited aaaaaaaaallllll the time in amy rose episode but yesterday i finnallllly finished knuckles the echidna and amy rose (to me the most raging episodes so far)
You mean the "Phi" robots.
This game is weird to me. I enjoy the story, characterisation and aesthetics but the gameplay gets tedious really quickly and I find I always had to grind the shit out of Emerl to not feel limited all the time. An okay game. Gonna have to heavily disagree on the music; it's probably my favorite thing about this game and there are a ton of awesome tracks, but I've always been a sucker for rock songs made with limited hardware (also really like the Zero series ost much more than the remastered versions but maybe I'm just weird)
Black&Blue good points
In my opinion that holds mostly true for Craft's battle theme since the original track's high point is the better quality guitar sample kicking in whereas the remastered track only uses the the better guitar sound throughout the remix. The remastered tracks in general felt a little softer than their original counterparts.
rock songs made with limited hardware are THE BEST.
Specially this. ua-cam.com/video/riHTGtaxgx8/v-deo.html
Holly Summit, Club Rouge and Dr. Robotniks themes are just awesome in the OST
I have to admit that I actually like this game. Yeah, it's repetitive, but I enjoyed the combat, the story, and Emerl as a character. It's kind of underrated imo
frfr tho
When I first played this game I skipped though some dialogue in the first story by accident and didn't want to play again so I thought, "Meh, probably some talk about friendship." Turns out it was about emerl's skill customization. I PLAYED EMERL WITH HIS BASIC SKILLSET UNTIL CREAM'S STORY!!!!" I only discovered the skill menu by accidentally clicking the skill menu during shadow's story. I felt dumb and also wished i had recorded it because I thought it would be pretty cool to tell others about how i battled 3 E-102 copies without any extra abilities. I still have nightmares from that rogue fight where i can't get hit or it restarts.
dude you aint the only that did that. I wasn't paying attention either and went through most of the game playing the original shit moveset.
Oh man this game. Takes me way back to like summer of 2004. I actually remember liking it a lot back in the day as me, my brother, and my two good friends growing up played this game a lot during summer vacation. I think the game shined best when you played it with friends as I remember we'd try to create our own perfect Emerl's and had free-for-all battles a lot trying to prove which one of us had the better robot lol
I couldn't remember much of the story as I only beat it once and didn't go back to replaying it because I got too focused practicing with Knuckles (who was my main) or my Emerl robot lol
Anyway good review, I can understand why this game wouldn't be everyone, especially now in 2017. Heck I remember trying to play the game in 2015 and I wasn't enjoying it as much as I did back in 2004 but it happens right?
Can't wait for the Sonic Advance 3 review. :)
hey i love the club rouge theme
Yes
I swear i heard moans.
I think they should make *Re-make* on the *New Nintendo 3DS* it has *so much potential.* Not to mention it's *still my Favorite Sonic Game!*
no pls regular 3ds I don't want to be cucked again by a new nintendo 3ds release.
I gotta have 1000 hours in this game. Beat it entirely. I absolutely loved this game
I had no idea people thought the Sonic Battle gameplay was bad in any way. I think it's amazing and I will DIE on this hill.
Typical fanbase for Sonic.
Not really
First and only GBA game to make me cry when I was younger😭
Same man
Spot on. I had a lot of fun in my first and maybe 2nd playthrough when I was young, but I never was able to get back into it for the same reasons.
1. Sonic Mania
2. Sonic Adventure
3. Sonic CD
4. Sonic Battle
I love this game
I loved this game. As far as difficulty, I like a good challenge, so it never bothered me. It just made me want to keep playing.
I hate that Amy is treated as nothing but Sonics crazy fan, it’s stupid that some games make her defining trait being crazy for Sonic
This is the only time I will ever say anything good about Boom
Amy wasn’t crazy for Sonic in the Boom series, she liked him but it was a genuinely normal attraction for him. And that’s how it should be
Then here you go, a second good thing to say about Sonic Boom: ua-cam.com/video/xTd3Bry-ZT4/v-deo.html
It's so weird how Shadow and Rouge play big roles in Battle but still don't appear in Advance 3 at all. It would be interesting to see Shadow's reaction to Gemerl as a bastardized copy of Emerl
Though I do think that GBA audio skung only adds to the music in this game, I love the crunchy sound, works really well with the fighting gameplay and the sharp, neon art style
This game was so fucking awesome, one of the games i will always remember from childhood lmao. Just being able to play as E102R was probably my favourite
I remember this game, it was FANTASTIC for what it was
Dude! I was addicted to this game when it came out. A lot of my friends got this game which made us spam all the multiplayer games til our batteries died. I want a reboot of this! It's a legit fighting game outside the campaign if you ask me.
I liked it, and to be honest I never knew you could upgrade Emeral at all, till recently. So I was stuck with slow Emeral. Great isnt it.
XartinMS if only you read the dialouge
I wonder how you beat the game with that...emeral...huh...
haha wtf yo that's funny as shit.....!
@@kayaplaaya9875 most ppl have had experiences like that because they were 5 for so years old when they first played it like myself way back. i also beat the entire game as default emerl and ive seen a ton of other ppl say the same because we were about 5 years old, dumb, and didn't read shit so didn't know anything. xd
Hahaha I UNDERSTAND WORSE.
When you want all card of one character and YOU GOT X9 FOR EVERY ELSE CARD.
Unless yoi got rare card.
COLOR ONE. SICK
This game was criminally underrated
Very cool story, but it's a miserable chore to play, the CPU reads your inputs, so the way you learn to play is by cheesing it out, which isn't what the battle system is made for. It's probably actually fun in multiplayer tho.
I love this game. I played it with friends alot. I loved the racing mini game as well. The grind to make Emerald perfect was cool.
While I agree with the negative points you made, I can't help it, but to love this game. It's really fun to me personally.
4:21 Yeah, Amy's characterization is definitely one of the weakest points of Sonic Battle, which I can't deny turns me off from this game completely. It's like, this game has such a good story and handles the characters so well, even giving Cream actual character development (something she's frequently criticized for lacking, among other things), but Battle fails so thoroughly with Amy it's not even funny. Battle's portrayal of Amy is honestly up there with Rush and Sonic X as one of the worst as not only is she presented as legitimately crazy for Sonic to the point of hallucinating him, but she also becomes genuinely obsessed with being exercising and losing weight (which brings to mind anorexia), and being obliviously abusive to Cream, who is supposed to be her best friend!
I know it's quite overkill to dislike a game because it fumbles with a single character in terms of writing, but Amy is a character I care about a great deal and I just *hate* how the franchise butchered her character to the point of everyone viewing her as a "psycho". Amy is supposed to be a loving and loveable, cheerful and positive character who looks out for everyone and loves Sonic because of how heroic he is. Amy can be a bit too energetic, think more with her heart rather than her head, and be a little too eager for Sonic's affections, but overall she's supposed to be a character you can like and root for. Sonic X and certain moments from certain games butchered those aspects of Amy's character and ruined her for the majority of people, making her one of the most disliked characters in this franchise. Battle, being such a well-written game with a truly compelling story, could've repaired the damage done to Amy's character if not prevent her reputation from going down the crapper. But instead, this game ended up fueling and fanning the flames. And, well, it's disappointing to say the least lol
Sorry for that rant ^_^; Just anted to give my own opinion on Battle that hasn't already been given. Awesome review, by the way :D You really nail every aspect of this game! And *thank you* for being an internet reviewer who DOESN'T bash on the characters just for existing
As someone who has Amy as one of their favorite characters (I feel in the minority there) I completely agree that Sonic Battle characterizes her terribly. Along with Sonic Rush and Sonic X. (especially that scene where she's oblivious toward how she acts when looking at a picture she's not pleased with) It completely contradicts Amy's sister bond with Cream from Sonic Heroes. In Sonic Heroes, sure Amy was boycrazy over Sonic, but she was never above helping out Big and Cream, in fact she puts their own priority of helping them find their friends over her finding Sonic. She also interacts in a more friendly way to where you can by them as friends. In Sonic Battle that's not the case, in both Battle and Rush she's hard on Cream. Sadly this was also the game where the characters began to get flanderized. Even Knuckles is terrible in Battle.
In fact Amy acts so much different here, than in the Adventure games and Heroes. Tails is afraid to talk to Amy, Amy has more of a temper/impatient nature (even though in Adventure 1 & 2 she only slightly annoyed them in an innocent way, but was still friendly in how she interacted with them) and her crush on Sonic only lasted one or two scenes, it was never her only character expanded throughout the game. It also forgets to balance Amy's positive traits with her craziness for Sonic. Also Cream's story campaign is the most pointless in the game, as it virtually adds nothing to the plot.
Exactly! People like to blame Heroes for mischaracterizing Amy, but aside from that stupid "Team Rose vs. Team Sonic" cutscene (which, let's be real, is no dumber than the other team battle cutscenes lol), Amy was good in Heroes! Amy was determined to find Sonic and win him over but she was more focused on helping Cream and Big rescue their kidnapped friends and was a true big sister to Cream, motivating her to keep persevering when the going got tough. Truly, Amy's crush on Sonic was balanced by her positive qualities AND she was a great partner to Cream. Battle, on the other hand, turns Amy's crush on Sonic into a literally crazy obsession and has her being abusive to Cream, which makes me question HOW that even got into the script in the first place -_-* And yeah, the less said about *that* scene in Rush, the better (I honestly hate Sonic Rush now because of how that game not only has Amy treating Cream badly, but has Cream being partners with Blaze and developing a compelling relationship with her, most likely killing off Amy and Cream's friendship for good)
Yeah, I really wish they would just go back to characterizing Amy the way they did in the Adventure games and Heroes; being a cheerful, optimistic girl with an overt crush on Sonic who nonetheless can kick ass and is motivated to be a hero to protect those who can't defend themselves. Fans like to claim that Lost World and Forces improved Amy's character, but I fail to see that :/ Her crush on Sonic in those games was practically removed from her character (which is a BIG deal to me because, like it or not, Amy's romantic affection for Sonic is a core part of her character; shouldn't dominate her character just as Tails' intellect and Cream's innocence shouldn't dominate theirs, but an essential part of her) and she willingly stands in the sidelines while Sonic, Tails, and others do all the work. Sure, Adventure 2 had Amy standing idly, but she clearly wanted to do important stuff and ultimately got Shadow to change his ways, while in Forces Amy was doing computer work for 99% of the game, only getting out into the field alongside everyone at the very end...
With Amy most people feel she's better when she doesn't love Sonic. However I feel her attraction toward him adds more to his character. Plus I feel Amy works fine having other characters to bounce off of so that her attraction doesn't take up her whole character. Like in Sonic Heroes, while she's more crazy in chasing Sonic compared to the Adventure titles, she's not above helping Cream & Big and at one point even motivating them like a leader should. Plus when she finds Sonic in the end it sorta felt like an end reward and she even waves to them goodbye before she leaves. Plus even in other instances when she fawns over him such as Adventure 2 where she kind of annoys Tails a bit, Amy's attraction was more innocent than than harmful. She's just a girl who's caught up in her own world and having a good intent to rescue Sonic. She never intended to come off as annoying Tails. Plus in Adventure 2 she wanted to be included by everyone and when she did fawn over Sonic it was either innocent or a joke (such as the jail scene)
In much later appearances it's the opposite. In Sonic Battle she's quite aggressive when talking to Tails to the point Tails is nervous and seems to only care about him simply because Sonic's with him. Compared to Adventure 1 and 2, where while their interactions were brief she still interacted with him in a friendly manor. That's the kind of characterization I wanna see from Amy, still having a huge attraction to Sonic, while still being his Fangirl, but her attraction comes off as Self aware and affectionate, rather than obsessive, unaware and aggressive. In fact the closest game since Heroes to have Amy to this extent was Sonic Unleashed. While she does run and hug him, she's more innocent and she comes off as supporting Sonic will save the day as always.
I also agree. While I do like the fact Lost World and Forces try to take Amy back to her Adventure 1 roots and do consider her character as likable. Her attraction to Sonic is basically non existent. There's a difference between maturity and completely forgetting. In Forces it seemed jarring that knowing Sonic's dead she just seemed slightly disappointed. Compared to 06 where she was on the floor crying when she saw him dead briefly. Still I don't hate those portrayals of Amy, I just wish she was given more to do with her more nurturing personality.
And don't even get me started on how Sonic Free Riders treats Amy. Ugh! It's by far the worst characterization of her character. Even worse than Sonic Battle, which could be considered an easy runner up.
She's more entertaining when she's a psycho; if not she's just bland
I feel like they just didn't know what to do with her, maybe they missed out on Adventure, where she actually ditched Sonic to go help a little bird save his family, but in Battle she felt more like your stereotypical crazy gf from some anime or another. I'm not sure where that came from, but it's really odd considering how they nailed down pretty much everyone else but her. Except maybe Gamma, who still apparently isn't really Gamma, or something?
You didn't even talk about the super fun multiplayer mode that you can play with someone even if they don't have the game.
true
I beat the game and I reached 100% skill for Emerl.
In fact that's not Gamma in this game but a new robot dubbed "Chaos-Gamma", he's similar in design and moves (heck he even has the same name) but is a more loyal machine to eggman that took wayyyyyyyy more time to be struck by amy and cream's friendliness, and who instead of being powered by animals is powered by chaos emeralds. He's one of the most persistent of eggman's robots, challenging the main cast multiple times during the game... come to think of it i don't think this guy ever got enough credit.
I managed to beat this game and don't recall it being a chore...but that's probably because I have very few memories of it, so I may have just forgotten how much trouble it gave me. Anywho, I remember the following:
1) I gave my Emerl white and gold colors to make it feel godly and go with the fully-evolved, fully-powered schtick. I gave Emerl almost every move you could that hits multiple times per attack...Had trouble stringing Gamma's multi-hit uppercut into Tails' multi-hit combo finisher though, since the two moves weren't designed to work together. That said, I have NO IDEA what that crazy barrage of attacks J has on his Emerl is! What power is this!?
2) Shadow struck me as an edge lord in this game, as I only remember him waxing philosophical about the likes of him, Emerl and Gamma only being born/created for the purpose of war and treating Gamma as a pathetic lost cause...Oh, and Gamma being here but not Omega was always weird; guess Heroes and Battle didn't communicate during production.
3) Rouge's story is the only one with a weird difficulty spike that I remember. Her story ends with her fighting Sonic 1-on-1, cutscene, fighting Sonic and Tails 2-on-1, cutscene, fighting Sonic, Tails and Knuckles 3-on-1...cutscene. At the very least, you can lose the second fight and still progress, because that's what happened to me...No idea how I won the last fight, but I remember Rouge calling out the BS on this encounter and I couldn't help but agree...Kinda makes Team Sonic look stupid too, losing despite having such a huge advantage and them working together so well in other games.
4) Tails has a fight against Rouge you can optionally lose, which gives you a different cutscene than if you won. I lost that fight on purpose because it sounded more interesting than getting another Standard Win Scene and it just made sense, as I didn't believe Tails could beat Rouge, even back then.
Anywho, cool video for a cool game. Kinda weird how early Sonic spin-off games tended to suck, but later Sonic spin-off games (like Battle and Riders, not Shadow) were actually good. Makes you wonder if they could do another fighting game somewhere down the line and what that'd be like...Y'know, provided Sonic Team at some point treats everyone besides Sonic like they can actually do anything so that a fighting game starring them could be conceivable.
I played this game so much on emulator in my young days. This was time when I got wirless gamepad for PC. This game just want you to grind it. I admit all what you say, because I feel the same.
As Sonic fan and fighting fan I think devs have interesting battle systems with this limits. It's have unique gimmick like 3d arena or "custom your fighter". You can spent long time to making your own build.
But as a fighting game it have problems - too many lives stocks, too many Gammas, instakills.
Also, good fighting games give you:
a) combo routes that give you some advantage or as I can say "make sense"
b) core gameplay builded on "rock-paper-scissors".
In this game we have combo that lead to strong punch that slams your enemy to wall, and we have combo that leads to "launcher" that launch enemy to ceilling. 1st route is ok. Enemy can safely bounce off wall if you push direction button in right time. Enemy also can counter attack you when you pursue him in air. But 2nd route is uselees - it's less damage and help your enemy to easly escape your pressure because you launch him so hight. Why "launcher" lift enemy to stratosphere? Also it's major waste of time to battle with Rouge because CPU don't know how to fly/land with her "flight mode". In fighting game the primary objective of "launcher" is to add more damage to combo. Also it's hard to hit something in 3d perspective especially on big arena.
"rock-paper-scissors" have few issues. Player need some tools to bypass blocks, or block mechanic that can be more reliable. Circle guard is fine as defence versus group of enemies, but you can easly wiff it and make yourself defenceless. Attacks in this game is really quick so I don't know how you can "keep your distance" or playing "mind games" in random scenarios.
This game has a major potential
They could do a console version of this
Nerfing Rouge's air kick
Buffing Knuckes and Chaos speed
And doing a Budokai Tenkaichi Style fighting game, or just an arena fighter
I feel like Rouge's air kick was probably an oversight more than anything. Some moves were clearly meant to be weaker and stronger than others though, like Shadow's bomb skills, because they're just 1-star skills, compared to his other moves. Unless I'm wrong, both Knuckles and Chaos had the highest support cards for offense and defense, giving them more damage and hit points than most, hence why their movesets were pretty trash.
Chaos being slow made him on one hand super easy because you could regen extremely often, but on the other hand, fuck did he hit hard iirc
It'd probably be interesting to see a Sonic-style arena fighter in the vein of Power Stone.
Kirby and the Amazing Mirror has a good soundtrack, people can fight me on that.
Club Rouge song is the goat of the game. SA2 I believe there’s a stage song that mirrors this one but more toned down and vocals in the bg are easier to understand.
I initially loved Sonic Battle. But when I came back to it, its still good but I noticed the damn grind
I remember finishing this game several times after I first found it while searching for games to enioy in a just-discovered GBA Simulator.
I will forever stay by my opinion that this game is an gem with potential that deserves a remake the most. I just love everything with this game BUT the awful moments like having to bother with Emerl's weak ass at the early game, or the repeated Gamma fights one after another.
The customization of Emerl is the best thing in here. I may not be great at bothering to try various combinations, but it just feels great to progress by getting new cards, or trying to make Emerl be different characters, like that one guide of how to make Emerl Silver, a video which always hits me with nostalgia.
I really don't know what you are on about guys, I personally thought this game was super easy to defeat, so I never experienced the like you called it "slog" of a play through, I really enjoyed this game. And again I personally enjoyed Club Rouge and Holly Summit in the OST a lot, so for me this game always felt like a 8/10 a really solid game that I play annually every year because it just makes me smile, the nostalgia, the fighting mechanics, I know I might be alone on this but this is my favourite Sonic Game.
It was probably meant to be a game you pickup and play as a handheld game and not in a long setting
Context goes a long way when reviewing games
Well, I had a lot of fun playing this game
Damn Sega, make more Sonic fighting games.
I had this game as a kid and I do recall the padding. However I thought it was a fun little game. The one thing I couldn't stand though was trying to get all the ultra powerful moves Emerl could use in his final battle. If you died once, at anytime, you had to start over.
Taking the story elements of this game,this game is pretty dope on the Multiplayer department. Me and my girlfriend had a really good time kicking each other asses. Even, with some characthers being Nerfed and Buffed
This game's difficulty is insane. The things the game expects you to do are just unfair. I was stuck on so many missions and I still haven't beat it. And to be honest: I don't want to beat it. It's not worth my time. This is one of those Sonic games I'll never touch again.
Daxtery Toon or just stick to multiplayer if need be
Block firsr attack next, worked for me
I love this game but it’s too hard.
Actually the bat will train you how to fight
The Ichikoro bar is this game's biggest problem.
I beat this game without upgrading the robot. BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW YOU COULD CHANGE HIS MOVESET! And I had so much fun!
I was fortunate enough to have 4 friends all have this game for rotating multiplayer.
This need to be re-released on switch as a Sonic Advance Collection
Greatest sonic fighting game ever
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Not sure on that, one guy I watched pointed out that Shadow's story in this game, at least his characterization, along with a lot of weird level and map ideas (like Rouge owning a club out of nowhere and Knuckles suddenly being the one to be able to just chill and watch the news at his home which isn't even called Angel Island), don't really work with any of the previous entries. It's sort of somehow both a continuation of those older games but also delved off in it's on little split timeline/universal bubble. Mostly because Shadow's character in this is really only built off the version of Shadow from earlier in SA2 before the ending which is physically impossible since could only take place after Shadow '05 but at the end of that game he renounces his past, yet in this one he's going on about Maria, although he keeps his more competitive smug side which I think works, and for some reason he has the attitude to consider & refer to himself The Ultimate Lifeform which...I mean...after SA2...he SHOULDN'T or DOESN'T as far as I know (also granted, I never really liked the plot point of him basically renouncing his past in the first place, cause at least to me, yeah sure he becomes his own person, but it feels like an excuse to not be burdened by Maria's promise to protect the world and give it a second chance, yet he continues to do so anyway, plus just the fact that he is always by himself and never interacting with anyone feels like it just goes against what maria would have wanted for him, he continues to act like he's still back on the Ark, up and above/away from any and everyone, alone in his own bubble, at least to me, Shadow should have carried on the memory of Maria and Gerald in some way by at least TRYING to be sociable but just be awkward at it, I mean for Pete's sake he lived in a space station in isolation with only one friend for most, of if not all, his life, yeah he wouldn't be good at socializing like Knuckles but I'd at least appreciate SOME effort).
Granted I would like this game and the Advance games to be canon, but at least with Battle here, there needs to be some retconning here and there to make it more cohesive for the overall series' story along with being a more clean cut story even if it's left by itself. Although keeping some of the general story themes in this should be a must, like Cream's story.
A reason why some of these weird plot points are there, at least according to the guy that did the video, suspects that the team behind the game had heard that Shadow was returning for Heroes due to it being in development at the time and assumed how he was going to be utilized but also just missed the whole point of his character and a lot of the implications in SA1 and 2. All this coming down to poor communication.
Still think shadow should've been in Sonic Advance 3
Christian Rc I wish he was.
Heck Sonic Heroes was already out before Advance 3 they could’ve gave us everyone from Heroes in Advance 3.
just started this game the other day, the repetitive fights and the difficulty spikes are annoying but for the most part I actually really like sonic battle
As much as I enjoyed this game as a young child and have many memories, I remember being so stumped on it, I begged my mom to take me to Gamestop and ask the employee for help defeating the levels. LOL
I don't know why there's so much hate. I greatly enjoyed this game, given that this was GBA game. This is very Super Smash bros for GBA. Each character are all quite unique, with even normals being all different. Even their normal attacks are quite different (different power, speed, range, etc). That makes this a very unique fighting game. But the real joy comes from the customizable character, Emerl. You mix/match all the attacks/defend. For example, I give Sonic's first attack, but I give E-102's 2nd/3rd attack, then finish with Rouge's 4th attack. Then I give Rouge's air action, while giving Cream's air attack, while giving Shadow's dive attack. And that's just the normal attacks.
And due to limited point system, you can't give your character "everything powerful and awesome". It really makes the customization fun. I had a lot of fun with this game. The final boss is a bitch though.
Knuckles guard robo section 😭 oh boy my poor young soul in that section... I just wanted to see more Knuckles Emerl comradery.
I understand your problems with this game, but for me, I'D REPLAY THIS FREAKING STORY MODE UNTIL THE DAY I DIE, I LOVE IT THAT MUCH.
I just recently beat this game and I agree with you 100%
The game is so awesome and so emotional at the end . It really deserves a remake. It has some super hard levels but they are beatable. And for those who hasn't played the game , it is available on android
Is it on android?
+J's Reviews yep just google it. I have it too
this game was lit back when we had LINK Cables...WHEW
*when the video looks better at 240p*
This is the future.
Lol for the originals
I like to imagine how would this game be perfected if remade, but there's always some element that feels hard to improve without losing the essence, like the repetitive combat.
Rip Emerl
To the intro.
WHY DID YOU SHOW THE TITLE SCREEN IF ITS WAS IN THE BACK GROUND?
Chaos is to remind you HEY DOES EMERALD REMIND YOU OF ANYONE?
My first Sonic game with actual plot... with kinda worked against me, since not many parts of this franchise can actually measure up to its story.
Well, actually I loved to play for Chaos. He is moving slow, but he has very powerfull attacks. Remake for PS4 would be fantastic, but...
When I was younger I always found chaos to be my favorite character because he was so unique and mysterious. He is extremely slow but his attack combo is so damn lethal the moment you get caught in it you know you are already dead and there is no escape. I got back to this game just now and Im glad Im still enjoying it.
I actually beat this game as a kid but I do remember it being hard as hell. Grinding for the ultimate Emerl upgrades was also a giant pain. I quit doing that with several upgrades left because it really made no sense after beating the game. Maybe someday...
@Super Sapphire Sisters - Supersonic Robot Blast I know right. But honestly I had a lot of fun with the game. Probably played it much longer than most, because at that age I lived and breathed Sonic hahaha.
Still remember sonic battle on gba . I loved it and the story was actually good imo . Gameplay was cool yet repetitive. Nuff said
Positive note: Probably the best GBA game to have attempted true 3d rendering.
Sin: It attempted 3D rendering on the GBA (and the aforementioned padding).
Also a tip for hard fights. Emerl vs knuckles ep1. Equip sonic uper attack then spam combo:1 attack 2 attack 3attack upper until knuckles is dead. Beacuse CPU are stupid they cant avoid this combo.ep2 doesn't have many annoying fights but if you are having trouble use dash attack then spam air attack. Very good combo. Rouge and Emerl vs Sonic and Amy ep3. Spam specials. Knuckles vs guard robos(3) ep4. Spam traps. Use this strategy in all fights in ep4. Ep5 isnt that difficult. There are a lot of fights when you are Emerl. Ep6 Spam Cream's air attack and power special. Ep7 Shadow combo:1attack 2 attack 3 attack upper attack then quickly air attack. Ep8 Emerl vs Eggman spam uppers. Sonic vs Emerl. Very hard spam specials
I would say in spite of repetition being there at certain points of the game, it's a pretty good game in my eyes. I think things like a custom Emeral is a pretty neat thing I would say. And yeah, I know there's some inherent problems with the game but I feel like for what you get, it's not bad imo. It's a shame we never got a sequel to Sonic Battle since it has a lot of potential with the custom Emeral system but I would say I enjoyed my time with it mostly.
I will note one thing though you might want to know. Some of your game footage does look a little uncompressed. By that I mean it doesn't look right in certain areas. (Here's some points when it's especially noticeable: 2:57-2:58 & 16:55-16:56.) I'm not sure if it has to do with your emulator or an accidental mistake that wasn't seen earlier or whatever. Besides that problem, I would say this review was pretty good.
+Super Gamer61499 Well Amy's and Cream's playthrough was corrupted. But since those story clips were necessary I figured having it on screen for a few seconds wouldn't be worth redoing those playthroughs.
I never liked how Emerl can capture the same damn skills he already captured, and the skills you get are completely random no matter if you shame the same move while fighting with Emerl against someone. It makes an already repetitive game very monotonous.
I use to beat the story on this game every day during summer 2006
i loved everything bout this game......except the soundtrck
I think the GBA sound chip is quite charming
I would've loved a few more GBA songs to be remade in Generations, but oh well.
Please tell me that I am not the only one who used Rouge's infinite combo in her story.
The graphics for this game are insane for GB a.
I love this game
This is kinda like Super Smash Bros Brawl
TBH, I enjoyed everything in this game, but prolly because I liked battling, even though battles were hard, such as against Knuckles. I hated fighting as Rouge against Sonic, Tails and Knuckles, though. Very frustrating.
the first Sonic Battle song you played sounded like someone chopping down a tree with a duck.
I'm pretty much in the same boat. Everything about the presentation, bar the GBA sound quality being really apparent, is top notch. The game is pretty good in general, it's just...the campaign execution threatens to ruin a good game.
I still hated ending of this game though. I mean i guess they wanted to make an emotional story i guess which i guess is sort of fine i think but i expected it to have an happy ending since you would see how Emerl interact with these characters and such. I mean i guess you get see him again rebuilt or something in Sonic Advance 3 i guess (if that is even the same Emerl that is) i would've rather have a happy ending where Emerl would return to his friends and such, hell we could've had him as a playable character in future Sonic games after this if they didn't or at least shouldn't go with this ending route since i think i would like to play as him in future Sonic games and all in my opinion.
This game gave Tails his arm cannon. Wish they used it again somewhere.