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When I went camping in Colorado once, it was a clear night, and what I saw was breath-taking! It was as though the stars were showing a relief, a geography, like a 3d effect!
Truthfully, I only know what I was taught, about the global earth model, gravity, and so on. Now the bible(kjv)speaks of four corners of the earth, which, I guess could be a globe with four corners being east west north south. But, I have never really seen what the earth REALLY looks like. So I will believe what I can see, basically. Thats how I see things.❤
It still amazes me that some Bible believing Christians will argue that we live on a rotating sphere in an ever expanding space vacuum. All Glory to God that it is not the case !!
Thank you, I'm excited every time you bring up this topic. ❤ Psalm 19:6-7 is refering to the objective reality of the sun being in a circular motion above the circular earth... As opposed to Joshua 10:13 where globbers could argue the sun standing still is just Joshua's subjective perception. In both cases the word of God is describing objective truth.
🇺🇸Hey, Dave; Merry Christmas tTt. You're Rockin the "Q". GODBless you and your Family. P.S. In Exodus 1:7, what is the meaning, of the symbol, right after the #7. Thank you
*Psalm 32:10 b KJV - ... he that trusteth in the LORD, **_mercy shall COMPASS him about._* *Isaiah 1:18 b KJV - ... **_though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as SNOW; ..._* *Or:* _globe curvature: 8" per mile² = 0.666 ft, globe speed = 66.600 mph, globe axial tilt: 90° - 23,4° = 66.6° (towards horizontal)_ The choice is simple: *1 Samuel 2:8 KJV - He raiseth up the poor **_OUT OF THE DUST,_** and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for **_THE PILLARS OF THE EARTH_** are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them.*
So sorry to hear about your father Pastor. The Scriptures you quote and also other studies I’ve done. I think is spinning because it sure makes me dizzy 😵💫 Perry Demopoulos gave us a copy of the circle of the Earth 🤔🤷🏻♂️
I would love to read it. I just say down with a good brother that you know and he is a globe guy. We didn't care about each other's thoughts on this subject because we have grace and know that we agree 95% of the time anyway. He mentioned that you are still riding your bike in the hills of Tennessee. Perry and I preached at the same meeting the last two years in March and neither one of us mentioned the topic. Thank you for your condolences.
Brother, Perry stayed with us a few months ago and I understand about being gracious on the subject, it will make you think and study for sure. Yes, I’ve still been able to ride, but I have severe arthritis in the neck and back with C-4 C-5 C6 herniated also torn rotator cuff a praise Lord. I’m still able to work and ride. Kernessa just went through six rounds of chemotherapy but she’s cancer free now. I try to go out witnessing one on one, I met brother Aaron MacMahan, over three years ago. He quit his job on the police force, him and his wife, Theresa at CPR Missions. youtube.com/@cpr_missions?si=mo6ttpq01wYsAejs
Anyway, glad you’re doing well. Pastor the play was exceptional this year I watched it. I have to finish my story how I met brother Aaron he is the only one down here in the “Bible Belt that ever gave me a gospel tract. I was coming back from a motorcycle ride stopped at a gas station so I gave him one of ours. We started talking he seen the 1611 on the church tract and said you’re not one of those “ Ruckmanite “ churches are you ? I thought oh no here it comes I just told him no but he was a good Bible teacher, then Arron said I know I got quite a few of his books. He said he didn’t know there was a church like that around here, so long story short, they joined our church, and the rest is history. They have been a real blessing to us.
Important question, if the globe was proven without a doubt to be a sphere, would you no longer believe the Bible? Or would you instead rethink your understanding of the Bible?
If science proves the globe and I am persuaded, I would rethink my understanding of the Bible. But, if one limits his study through the scripture with science to verify the natural world, the only conclusion is a stationary plain with an ice wall that hold the waters within.
It was very much a blessing! Thank you!
Outstanding lesson, thank you Bro Hoffman!
Great job brother! Thought provoking.
When I went camping in Colorado once, it was a clear night, and what I saw was breath-taking! It was as though the stars were showing a relief, a geography, like a 3d effect!
Truthfully, I only know what I was taught, about the global earth model, gravity, and so on.
Now the bible(kjv)speaks of four corners of the earth, which, I guess could be a globe with four corners being east west north south. But, I have never really seen what the earth REALLY looks like. So I will believe what I can see, basically.
Thats how I see things.❤
It still amazes me that some Bible believing Christians will argue that we live on a rotating sphere in an ever expanding space vacuum. All Glory to God that it is not the case !!
Agreed. I almost can’t fellowship with globe believers anymore.
Thank you, I'm excited every time you bring up this topic. ❤ Psalm 19:6-7 is refering to the objective reality of the sun being in a circular motion above the circular earth... As opposed to Joshua 10:13 where globbers could argue the sun standing still is just Joshua's subjective perception. In both cases the word of God is describing objective truth.
🇺🇸Hey, Dave;
Merry Christmas tTt.
You're Rockin the "Q".
GODBless you and your Family.
P.S. In Exodus 1:7, what is the meaning, of the symbol, right after the #7. Thank you
Thank you for your kindness. The symbol is a paragraph mark that sometimes sets the context.
Christmas is a Babylonian pagan satanic holiday.
I love camping in the winter.
Burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Yes, and down here in Tennessee try a southern Baptist church and realize how good of church you have as far as doctrine 3:11
Yep ...not far up at all. You'd think that people would love that ??
Right? I totally agree, and I can't even try to imagine God being beneath me. After all He is the most High.
It equally also means being closer to Hell below perhaps...
The phenomenon of the sun and moons "analemma" is very interesting too. I believe that it explains that pesky extra 24 hours every 4 years too 👍
*Psalm 32:10 b KJV - ... he that trusteth in the LORD, **_mercy shall COMPASS him about._*
*Isaiah 1:18 b KJV - ... **_though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as SNOW; ..._*
*Or:*
_globe curvature: 8" per mile² = 0.666 ft, globe speed = 66.600 mph, globe axial tilt: 90° - 23,4° = 66.6° (towards horizontal)_
The choice is simple:
*1 Samuel 2:8 KJV - He raiseth up the poor **_OUT OF THE DUST,_** and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for **_THE PILLARS OF THE EARTH_** are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them.*
Check out photos of Haley's comet ☄️.....light shining through from the Throne Room ??
So sorry to hear about your father Pastor. The Scriptures you quote and also other studies I’ve done. I think is spinning because it sure makes me dizzy 😵💫
Perry Demopoulos gave us a copy of the circle of the Earth 🤔🤷🏻♂️
I would love to read it. I just say down with a good brother that you know and he is a globe guy. We didn't care about each other's thoughts on this subject because we have grace and know that we agree 95% of the time anyway. He mentioned that you are still riding your bike in the hills of Tennessee. Perry and I preached at the same meeting the last two years in March and neither one of us mentioned the topic. Thank you for your condolences.
Brother, Perry stayed with us a few months ago and I understand about being gracious on the subject, it will make you think and study for sure.
Yes, I’ve still been able to ride, but I have severe arthritis in the neck and back with C-4 C-5 C6 herniated also torn rotator cuff a praise Lord. I’m still able to work and ride. Kernessa just went through six rounds of chemotherapy but she’s cancer free now. I try to go out witnessing one on one, I met brother Aaron MacMahan, over three years ago. He quit his job on the police force, him and his wife, Theresa at CPR Missions.
youtube.com/@cpr_missions?si=mo6ttpq01wYsAejs
Anyway, glad you’re doing well. Pastor the play was exceptional this year I watched it.
I have to finish my story how I met brother Aaron he is the only one down here in the “Bible Belt that ever gave me a gospel tract. I was coming back from a motorcycle ride stopped at a gas station so I gave him one of ours. We started talking he seen the 1611 on the church tract and said you’re not one of those “ Ruckmanite “ churches are you ? I thought oh no here it comes I just told him no but he was a good Bible teacher, then Arron said I know I got quite a few of his books. He said he didn’t know there was a church like that around here, so long story short, they joined our church, and the rest is history. They have been a real blessing to us.
@@wheeliewadethiesen2946that's great.
Important question, if the globe was proven without a doubt to be a sphere, would you no longer believe the Bible? Or would you instead rethink your understanding of the Bible?
The globe is a myth to promote atheism, that is unprovable.
So it's a stupid question.
@@croyant-bible well, it's supposed promotion of atheism didn't work for me.
If science proves the globe and I am persuaded, I would rethink my understanding of the Bible. But, if one limits his study through the scripture with science to verify the natural world, the only conclusion is a stationary plain with an ice wall that hold the waters within.
@@trenton1190 I'm not sure what you mean by the supposed promotion of atheism didn't work for me.
@@Purewordsoftruth1611 Thanks for the honest answer.