NOTICE your Z lead screw mounts (where the lead screw goes through the mount) are loose which will cause print issues (At exactly 4:33 in video) The lock screws are almost off and I bet the screws themselves are loose). You will need a 5.5 flex nut driver to tighten them easily. I found this and once I tightened them and cleaned the rails my Neptune PRO 4 is rock solid and prints like a dream. I love this printer. The pre shipment inspection sucks as I found many loose screws and once everything was tight I found this printer to be AWESOME. I bet these loose screws are the cause of MOST problems.
Nice review, thanks. I got mine still in the box, can't wait to unpack it. From other tests, I've seen that the usb should accommodate a multi usb dongle and allow both a camera and wifi to be plugged at the same time. Something worth mentioning is that the pro has a drawback that even Elegoo forgot to mention, the metal rods need to be cleaned and greased regularly to avoid quality loss or unexpected wear. I guess this might be even a bigger issue for casual users since the printer is likely to stay unused and collect dust for longer periods of time. Glad I went for the regular since that's my profile!
Unfortunately if you want the faster printing, you are going to need more fans. Compared to the SV07, the curtain fan on the Neptune 4 is a welcoming site 👍
Wow! You didn’t skip a beat! Was worried that you were going to do what Future Tripod mentioned 😂. Had a good flow, and very detailed, unlike others that just crank out videos. Well done 👍. Oh, perfectly timed with the first UA-cam card 😂😂
John, Off topic but I think a great video would be combining 3D printing and laser cutting. I have been slowly learning Lighburn, and am surprised how easy it is to take some of the objects to be cut on the laser and import them to Tinkercad and then export as a STL, or even slightly modify them and then 3D print. I know you are big in both areas - would be a great combination.
Have you had any issues with the z axis? A good few printers seem to have developed faulty z's where it doesnt raise the nozzle and drives it into the bed, or into prints mid-print.
Got Mine today. Paniced, when the Nozzle was alreday cloged when I tried to Run fillament through it and wondered wtf is Happening hahaha Other than that, its super awesome. And extremely quiet without the big fan
I dig it - as I delve deeper into this I'm thinking about a second printer already lol - higher print speeds would be nice. I like my instant gratification lol
I have never worked with 3D printers, but would like to buy one to make router templates for my woodshop. How precise are prints? What terminology should I look for? Tolerance? Thanks in advance!
I keep hearing UA-camrs placing fan noise as a 'Con' on reviews of high speed printers and I don't understand it. It's not a 'Con" as in it's poor product design it's really just a fact of life. There are trade-offs when it comes to engineering a product, in the case of 3D printers you trade sound levels for speed. It's a really good trade to make in this case because you get a very significant bump in speed for a less significant bump in sound with excellent resultant quality. It's kind of like complaining about the rain.
Yep! You cannot have it both ways. It is only worth noting if people need a more silent printer. However, it can be silent, just print slower so the curtain blower is needed.
For Wi-Fi, just buy a $30 Wi-Fi range extender with an Ethernet port attached. I do so for my Sony TV in my living room, which has an ethernet port (and a crappy WI-FI adapter), works great to connect directly to the home network at much faster and consistent speeds.
John - agree with the lack of Wifi, but for the price it looks like a great entry level printer. Any option to load files other than a micro SD card is a big plus
@@TripodsGarage Don't get the big deal, just get a wifi extender, connect to your wifi with it and then connect the extender to the printer via LAN cable. Works as easy as abc.
You can connect the LAN cable to a WiFi extender. The extender is connected wirelessly to the router and the 3d printer is connected with the cable to the extender. That works, I have done it because I had a similar problem.
Absolutely! I definitely need some wifi extenders. However, I will most likely replace my router first, it is over 5yr old. For the review I just shared the wifi to the Ethernet port on my laptop.
You can also just use a usb wifi dongle and plug it into the usb port. If you need the usb port, just use a small usb hub. A lot of wifi dongles work with it.
@@UA-cam_Nr.1 I saw someone having a lot of problems with that though. Rhey were only able to get a certain one to work even though the others should have been compatible. The extender is easier. But you definitely can do that.
Very tempted to buy this. I dont know if its going to be better than my ender 3 v3 se ? Seems like speeds over 200 are kinda bad on machines without the triangle support. My ender shakes and wobbles 😮😂 the ke a 500, forget it. No way, you would need input shaping.
Thanks for an honest review of both the Neptune 4 and the SV07. I have an old Sovol SV01 that I've modded out of necessity (fixing issues and improving where possible), and was considering the SV07. After your video for the Neptune 4, I'm looking at the 4 Pro as it's only $299 on pre-order.
Hello, even all reviews aside with the SV07. I just believe that the Neptune 4 just beats the SV07 in almost every category. There are three things that the SV07 has that the Neptune doesn't, a Kl;ipper Screen, WiFi, and independent Z's (off the top of my head). The Neptune 4 just seems more refined, and actually worked for me. Thanks for watching and commenting! Much appreciated!
@@TripodsGarage The old SV01 has dual Z as well. Unfortunately they're connected to the same place on the board. Still, it seems to work ok. The only worry about the Neptune 4 I have is no accelerometer. Maybe you could answer that question though by plugging in the one for the SV07 into the Neptune or looking through the menu screen or Klipper to see if it has a section for it. I haven't dove into Klipper in anything yet
@@TripodsGarageThe SV07 also comes with an accelerometer for tuning input shaping, 12db quieter, Meanwell PSU, slightly larger volcano style hotend, and more nozzles on the market (none besides 0.4mm out for the Neptune 4 yet). I'm stuck between them myself at the moment. They're the same price and I'm tempted by the 07 as it's quieter, has better UI, WiFi out of the box, and less complaints about the firmware, although the Neptune seems to print faster and better, along with better customer support. The main thing keeping me away from elegoo besides the noise (my printer is on my desk with my pc), is the PSU quality. I got an elegoo robot kit years ago and it came with dodgy fake 18650 cells so I don't know how much I can trust their power supplies.
Bought this printer im having some issues with the z axys left side botom wheel is super lose no matter how much i twist the centrical nut doesn't do much anyone know how i can properly setup the z axys with the 4 screws ty.
Hi! Great informative vid. I’m dying to pull the trigger on buying this. Can you please tell me what the footprint of the printer is without the display and the holder? I have a small bedside table and want to make sure it fits on it.
The base is 13.25sq. However, depth is 17.5 from belt tensioner to stepper motor. With the bed all the way forward and back you are looking at about 19 inches needed for clearance
I wanted to order one but it was unavailable in EU all the time... So I have decided to go for Sovol 07plus which was available on premiere day. And it was a very good decision. Printing all the time with PETG and no problems at all and the prints look awesome. And it was only 309$ for early birds for a plus size printer (304x304x350). And it has a wifi which runs smootly without any problems out of the box. There are some cons of course - it goes with old custom cura 5.0 and You need to export the profiles by hand to prusa or new cura,the rolls on Y axis wear quite fast if printing/traveling on 250mm/s + speeds and fan is super loud but I use it on 15% on Petg so it does not bother me at all . Haven't try elegoos Neptune4 ( I use their mars series printers and they are awesome) but sovol might be quite a competitor for a printer of the year title.
@@TripodsGarage I wish I could have seen your review before buying the kobra 2. I will receive it tomorrow and will probably return it even before trying it.
Got a Neptune 4 Pro from Elegoo direct. Its a refurbished unit, they occasionally get a few back that they resell for a bit less. I thought of it as a good way to learn Klipper on something that is already set up and running, as I'm looking to deploy about 6 Vorons next year and Klipperize a few old deltas. Its definitely an Ender 3/V2 replacement. Don't upgrade the Ender. I recommend the pro version because of the linear rods and metal vslot wheels. You will never come out on upgrading the ender because the Elegoo comes with all the goodies for the same base price. Now, if they can get a little better with slicer profile support and not worry about repackaging an old version of Cura, they'll take that marketshare from Creality.
@@TripodsGarage I'm not really concerned about the smaller build plate, got my X1 just because the price was right; I don't do any real models, mostly RC parts or household stuff so quality and speed, along with being able to print slightly higher temp material reliably is kinda what I'm hoping for. It was also kinda a battle getting octopi working reliably, never had Klipper before but apparently that whole side of things usually just works.
I have a neptune 4 pro, so far i am satisfied, altough, if you print large prints (for ex 200mm dia) then the dual bed heater really messes u up, you cant print higher than 150mm/s without finetuning
And from a company that has been around for more than a year. Sadly, what I felt was the best budget starting printer, the company is falling apart. I might try to get my hands on one of these.
Just checked, odd that everything seems good on my Mac. Then switching to headphones on my phone, yeah I had to crank up the audio. I did audio balancing during editing like I always do. However, I am using a new AnkerWork wireless mic in this video. Looks like I will need to work more on the audio for the next video, my apologies.
See...if you'd asked me a week ago, I'd have agreed with you. I've had mine for four weeks, and I had three weeks of fantastic quality, ridiculously fast prints - I was over the moon. Then it developed a fault with the extruder and now it can't even get past the first couple of layers (throwing an obscure Klipper error that doesn't even exist in Google's index). The response from Elegoo? Complete radio silence. I've got loads of stuff that needs printing _soon_ so I've had to order a P1S, and this thing's just going to the shed.
The fact that they are too cheap to add fully automatic bed leveling when Creality can include it on their sub £200 ender makes me inclined to ignore this one despite its speed. They are not the only 3d printer that can go to 500. They need to up their game.
So this Elegoo, Cura, Klipper, Moonraker...wtf, so confusing. And that doesn't even include a slicer? I'm so confused and your video is obviously not made for a newbie in this game. You flapped through that like a goldfish who'd jumped out of his bowl.
Oh! I didn’t know that this was a Cura, Klipper, Moonraker exclusive instructional video. Let me go change the title really quick! Oh! Guess I didn’t mention that the software (Cura) was included on the included USB at 6:50 into the video. I must have flapped outside my fish bowl…. When watching car review videos, you must want driving lessons as well 👍. Looking forward to seeing your exact comment on other review videos as well!
@@TripodsGarage I didn't know my comment was going to trigger you so efficiently! After finally getting my 4 pro setup I discovered that the Cura (supplied with the USB) was the slicer that removed 2 of my questions. But that's neither here nor there. Fact is your video left a lot to be desired, as well as your follow up response. Could've said "you may be right, I'll post a more indepth video later, stay tuned!" I won't be staying tuned for any of your vids in the future. Peace out Goldie!
For $300 you can get an Artillery Sidewinder X2 with volcano, direct drive, 110v heated bed, dual belted Zs, oldham couplers on Zs, and a 310x310 build volume. About the only thing this has over it is the PEI sheet. Additionally, the Sidewinder uses an edge card connector on their XZ frame, and all of this stuff gets connected when you place it on top of the base of the machine. It's sad to see everyone jump all over "oh it's got klipper oh klipper klipper klipper". Klipper is just another firmware. Most of the people watching this either already have klipper on a better machine, or have no real idea what the hell Klipper is for. Most people just assume Klipper = FAST...but, let's be real here, at the speeds that bed slingers are running, Marlin isn't going to be any slower. So unless you LIKE diving into Linux, and futzing around with firmware, and trying new things, and staying on the super cutting edge and breaking things just to fix them over and over again, Klipper really doesn't do shit for anyone other than make manufacturers include a whole linux computer with their 3D printer to make it work. Oh, that on-board storage? It can corrupt. Firmware doesn't do that, and Klipper is Firmware mixed with a control system on the board. None of you people pushing klipper klipper klipper ever explain these nuances to your viewers and I suspect it's going to cause a lot of frustration for people who aren't interested in 3D printing as a hobby, but just want to use the printer to print things.
The web interface of Klipper is something everybody can make use of. And the more you know, the more possibilities you have, but as you can still use the standard touchscreen, you don’t need to, if you don’t want to. I will still give the printer you mentioned a look 😊.
I don't mind a troll or rant. I have the Artillery Sidewinder X2, and it is a good machine. It has a 300x300x400 build volume advertised, not 310. I like my SX2. However, the ribbon cables have failed on me twice, and having the permanent glass bed is an issue. Yes, Klipper is just another firmware. Both Marlin and Klipper have their positives and negatives I am not here to have say which is better. However, you failed to mention, to get any of the features that Klipper has on a machine running Marlin, you will need to get something like Octoprint running on a PI or another computer. I never said Klipper was cutting edge. I compared it to the Neptune 3, and what made it different. Where am I pushing Klipper? I mention that it is running Kipper. I never say that Klipper is better than Marlin. As mentioned in the video, people can use this basically as a Neptune 3. Slice the file, save to USB or SD card and hit print off the display. Do you use onboard storage with computers? Can they get corrupt? I bet you have a cell phone with onboard storage, running an OS? Where is that in your comment? What Marlin and Klipper does, it gives people a choice. Clearly your choice isn't Klipper. As for me, I run both. I bet if I watch other videos, and read the comments, your comment will not be there. Yet, you pass this judgement on me. Most people want choices, and with choices it drives innovation.
@@TripodsGarage Also, from what I have heard Elegoo works quite well out of the box. The artillery x2 not so much (plastic feeding parts for filament) and is a bit old. It’s normal that newer models are better. But of course of one needs the bigger build volume, it seems like a good choice. Helmets are usually a problem on the standard 225x225, not so on the artillery
@@UA-cam_Nr.1 - Yes, with Elegoo machines, most have a very positive experience out of the box. There have been complaints of stripped gears in the extruder. This happened on my Artillery Hornet. The X2 is about 2 years old, and Artillery hasn't released any new printers since. I would like to see a Plus and Max version of the Neptune 4, like they did with the Neptune 3. Then the consumer has the option to pick a Marlin or Klipper machine with almost identical footprints. The way this rant went, you would think the title of my video was "Why I love Klipper over Marlin" or "Never buy another 3D Printer with Marlin". I simply said the comparisons between the Neptune 3 and the Neptune 4. That the Neptune 4 has a curtain fan, more inputs, ethernet jack, and a higher spec'd board running Klipper. I proceeded to say that the Elegoo Neptune 4 is far better than the last Klipper bed slinger I tested. I never once said that Klipper was better than Marlin in this video. His claims of me pushing Klipper in this video is laughable. However, as a 3D printer OS, Klipper is superior in many ways. Plus can be just a simple to use as a Marlin based machine, just like the Neptune 4. It has been bad enough for printer manufactures to provide updated Marlin firmware. Who are the manufactures are selling Marlin input shaping and pressure advance?
@@TripodsGarage I waiting for the neptune 4 plus as my first printer what I worry about is those complex printer head including the extruder and how difficult it is to dismantle them when there is problem. Something I'd like to hear more in the reviews. I wish they made easy dismantling a feature. Nice review BTW !
great video! Love the thorough explanation of the prints and specs! Keep up the great work!
Thanks Jano! Much appreciated 👍
The best review yet John. Seriously
Many thanks Steve! I really appreciate it
Excellent review! I really enjoy the new format.
Great to hear the feedback. I had some terrible acid reflux during that taping 😂. Not used to being on camera that long.
NOTICE your Z lead screw mounts (where the lead screw goes through the mount) are loose which will cause print issues (At exactly 4:33 in video) The lock screws are almost off and I bet the screws themselves are loose). You will need a 5.5 flex nut driver to tighten them easily. I found this and once I tightened them and cleaned the rails my Neptune PRO 4 is rock solid and prints like a dream. I love this printer. The pre shipment inspection sucks as I found many loose screws and once everything was tight I found this printer to be AWESOME. I bet these loose screws are the cause of MOST problems.
Great review!! The tolerance test is impressive. You can see that the 0.1 is very close & could release.
The tolerance is impressive! I close to breaking the 0.1, so I left it 😆
another great review , also love the new look of the garage
Thanks Steven! The garage still needs some work, and a lot of cleanup 😉
Nice review, thanks. I got mine still in the box, can't wait to unpack it.
From other tests, I've seen that the usb should accommodate a multi usb dongle and allow both a camera and wifi to be plugged at the same time.
Something worth mentioning is that the pro has a drawback that even Elegoo forgot to mention, the metal rods need to be cleaned and greased regularly to avoid quality loss or unexpected wear. I guess this might be even a bigger issue for casual users since the printer is likely to stay unused and collect dust for longer periods of time. Glad I went for the regular since that's my profile!
Excellent point on the giant fan! Seems like there's no perfect place for these things.
Unfortunately if you want the faster printing, you are going to need more fans. Compared to the SV07, the curtain fan on the Neptune 4 is a welcoming site 👍
Wow! You didn’t skip a beat! Was worried that you were going to do what Future Tripod mentioned 😂. Had a good flow, and very detailed, unlike others that just crank out videos. Well done 👍. Oh, perfectly timed with the first UA-cam card 😂😂
There are still more changes to come!
John, Off topic but I think a great video would be combining 3D printing and laser cutting. I have been slowly learning Lighburn, and am surprised how easy it is to take some of the objects to be cut on the laser and import them to Tinkercad and then export as a STL, or even slightly modify them and then 3D print. I know you are big in both areas - would be a great combination.
That would make a great video! Thanks for the suggestion 👍
Have you had any issues with the z axis? A good few printers seem to have developed faulty z's where it doesnt raise the nozzle and drives it into the bed, or into prints mid-print.
So far no issues. And I hate bed crashes and ghost printing 😂
Got Mine today. Paniced, when the Nozzle was alreday cloged when I tried to Run fillament through it and wondered wtf is Happening hahaha
Other than that, its super awesome. And extremely quiet without the big fan
Great video Tripod
Thanks Jerry!
Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Will do 👍
I dig it - as I delve deeper into this I'm thinking about a second printer already lol - higher print speeds would be nice. I like my instant gratification lol
Mr. Tripod. Nice honest review.. .
Can you use this printer with out loading all that software ?
Just put sliced files on a usb and print? Ty
It's $229 now on the Elegoo site, with free shipping. I would probably have fun with it for a while but I wonder for how long.
Great review
Many thanks bud!
Would this be a ideal printer for making cosplay props? Like helmets? Etc
Nice review!
Thanks bud!
Elegoo Neptune 4 pro vs Ender 3 S1 pro. Which one to go for a beginner?
I have never worked with 3D printers, but would like to buy one to make router templates for my woodshop. How precise are prints? What terminology should I look for? Tolerance?
Thanks in advance!
I expect these to get even cheaper as the motherboard manufacturers integrate risc-v chips instead of arm.
What is the max acceleration it can handle?
I keep hearing UA-camrs placing fan noise as a 'Con' on reviews of high speed printers and I don't understand it. It's not a 'Con" as in it's poor product design it's really just a fact of life. There are trade-offs when it comes to engineering a product, in the case of 3D printers you trade sound levels for speed. It's a really good trade to make in this case because you get a very significant bump in speed for a less significant bump in sound with excellent resultant quality. It's kind of like complaining about the rain.
Yep! You cannot have it both ways. It is only worth noting if people need a more silent printer. However, it can be silent, just print slower so the curtain blower is needed.
For Wi-Fi, just buy a $30 Wi-Fi range extender with an Ethernet port attached. I do so for my Sony TV in my living room, which has an ethernet port (and a crappy WI-FI adapter), works great to connect directly to the home network at much faster and consistent speeds.
John - agree with the lack of Wifi, but for the price it looks like a great entry level printer. Any option to load files other than a micro SD card is a big plus
I was struggling to find anything negative for its price! You simply cannot have it all for only $259. I believe this is a perfect starter printer.
@@TripodsGarage Don't get the big deal, just get a wifi extender, connect to your wifi with it and then connect the extender to the printer via LAN cable. Works as easy as abc.
You can connect the LAN cable to a WiFi extender. The extender is connected wirelessly to the router and the 3d printer is connected with the cable to the extender. That works, I have done it because I had a similar problem.
Absolutely! I definitely need some wifi extenders. However, I will most likely replace my router first, it is over 5yr old. For the review I just shared the wifi to the Ethernet port on my laptop.
@@TripodsGarage That makes sense I just though I would let you know it works.
@@westinspace9286 I totally appreciate your input! Thanks!
You can also just use a usb wifi dongle and plug it into the usb port. If you need the usb port, just use a small usb hub.
A lot of wifi dongles work with it.
@@UA-cam_Nr.1 I saw someone having a lot of problems with that though. Rhey were only able to get a certain one to work even though the others should have been compatible. The extender is easier. But you definitely can do that.
Very tempted to buy this. I dont know if its going to be better than my ender 3 v3 se ? Seems like speeds over 200 are kinda bad on machines without the triangle support. My ender shakes and wobbles 😮😂 the ke a 500, forget it. No way, you would need input shaping.
Should I get this or the a1 mini
I don’t have the A1, yet I would probably go with the A1 over this printer
Would you buy this over the svol7?
100% I would buy this over the SV07. My last 3D Printer review was the SV07 - ua-cam.com/video/AC8dr9JsGtY/v-deo.htmlsi=S5uvUh_9hMJS7Ck9
Sorry i went back on your videos and seen the last review. I understand the assignment lol
@@asw912608 - Hey! No worries at all! I am not the biggest name out there, I don’t expect everyone to watch my videos. I appreciate your questions 👍
@@TripodsGarage i just found your channel looking for reviews the fact you answered so fast i subscribed for ya... Thank you
@@asw912608 - Thanks for the sun bud! I truly appreciate it! I try to respond to everyone when I can. Happy printing!
Thanks for an honest review of both the Neptune 4 and the SV07. I have an old Sovol SV01 that I've modded out of necessity (fixing issues and improving where possible), and was considering the SV07. After your video for the Neptune 4, I'm looking at the 4 Pro as it's only $299 on pre-order.
Hello, even all reviews aside with the SV07. I just believe that the Neptune 4 just beats the SV07 in almost every category. There are three things that the SV07 has that the Neptune doesn't, a Kl;ipper Screen, WiFi, and independent Z's (off the top of my head). The Neptune 4 just seems more refined, and actually worked for me. Thanks for watching and commenting! Much appreciated!
@@TripodsGarage The old SV01 has dual Z as well. Unfortunately they're connected to the same place on the board. Still, it seems to work ok. The only worry about the Neptune 4 I have is no accelerometer. Maybe you could answer that question though by plugging in the one for the SV07 into the Neptune or looking through the menu screen or Klipper to see if it has a section for it. I haven't dove into Klipper in anything yet
@@TripodsGarageThe SV07 also comes with an accelerometer for tuning input shaping, 12db quieter, Meanwell PSU, slightly larger volcano style hotend, and more nozzles on the market (none besides 0.4mm out for the Neptune 4 yet). I'm stuck between them myself at the moment. They're the same price and I'm tempted by the 07 as it's quieter, has better UI, WiFi out of the box, and less complaints about the firmware, although the Neptune seems to print faster and better, along with better customer support. The main thing keeping me away from elegoo besides the noise (my printer is on my desk with my pc), is the PSU quality. I got an elegoo robot kit years ago and it came with dodgy fake 18650 cells so I don't know how much I can trust their power supplies.
Bought this printer im having some issues with the z axys left side botom wheel is super lose no matter how much i twist the centrical nut doesn't do much anyone know how i can properly setup the z axys with the 4 screws ty.
Hi! Great informative vid. I’m dying to pull the trigger on buying this. Can you please tell me what the footprint of the printer is without the display and the holder? I have a small bedside table and want to make sure it fits on it.
The base is 13.25sq. However, depth is 17.5 from belt tensioner to stepper motor. With the bed all the way forward and back you are looking at about 19 inches needed for clearance
Thank you! Seems I'm might have to wait for a mini :( @@TripodsGarage
I wanted to order one but it was unavailable in EU all the time... So I have decided to go for Sovol 07plus which was available on premiere day. And it was a very good decision. Printing all the time with PETG and no problems at all and the prints look awesome. And it was only 309$ for early birds for a plus size printer (304x304x350). And it has a wifi which runs smootly without any problems out of the box. There are some cons of course - it goes with old custom cura 5.0 and You need to export the profiles by hand to prusa or new cura,the rolls on Y axis wear quite fast if printing/traveling on 250mm/s + speeds and fan is super loud but I use it on 15% on Petg so it does not bother me at all . Haven't try elegoos Neptune4 ( I use their mars series printers and they are awesome) but sovol might be quite a competitor for a printer of the year title.
hello friend , could you please recommend me the neptune 4 or the kobra 2?
Hello, I would pick the Neptune for over the Kobra 2. I believe the Neptune 4 is a much better machine. Thanks
@@TripodsGarage thanks 😊
@@TripodsGarage I wish I could have seen your review before buying the kobra 2. I will receive it tomorrow and will probably return it even before trying it.
Got a Neptune 4 Pro from Elegoo direct. Its a refurbished unit, they occasionally get a few back that they resell for a bit less. I thought of it as a good way to learn Klipper on something that is already set up and running, as I'm looking to deploy about 6 Vorons next year and Klipperize a few old deltas. Its definitely an Ender 3/V2 replacement. Don't upgrade the Ender. I recommend the pro version because of the linear rods and metal vslot wheels. You will never come out on upgrading the ender because the Elegoo comes with all the goodies for the same base price. Now, if they can get a little better with slicer profile support and not worry about repackaging an old version of Cura, they'll take that marketshare from Creality.
Thinking of replacing my Sidewinder X1 I've done a bunch of work on with one of these; you think this is a viable replacement to do less tinkering?
Overall I believe the Neptune 4 is a better machine. However, it does have a smaller build volume than the X1
@@TripodsGarage I'm not really concerned about the smaller build plate, got my X1 just because the price was right; I don't do any real models, mostly RC parts or household stuff so quality and speed, along with being able to print slightly higher temp material reliably is kinda what I'm hoping for.
It was also kinda a battle getting octopi working reliably, never had Klipper before but apparently that whole side of things usually just works.
Does it come with klipper pre installed?
Yes, it's a printer that has klipper ingegrated. No Marlin.
I have a neptune 4 pro, so far i am satisfied, altough, if you print large prints (for ex 200mm dia) then the dual bed heater really messes u up, you cant print higher than 150mm/s without finetuning
And from a company that has been around for more than a year. Sadly, what I felt was the best budget starting printer, the company is falling apart.
I might try to get my hands on one of these.
Are you talking about Sovol?
@@UA-cam_Nr.1 no. Starts with an F.
@@TheZolon Ohh the mystery 😂
The company “folded” 😉
Mmh poti for the big blower
Am i the only one who has to use 100% volume on youtube AND my headphones to somewhat hear what he's saying?
Just checked, odd that everything seems good on my Mac. Then switching to headphones on my phone, yeah I had to crank up the audio. I did audio balancing during editing like I always do. However, I am using a new AnkerWork wireless mic in this video. Looks like I will need to work more on the audio for the next video, my apologies.
@@TripodsGarage All good man, im just leaving feedback incase no-one else tells you about it and I was watching on my PC via headphones
Nope. Sounds the same as any other video to me.
See...if you'd asked me a week ago, I'd have agreed with you. I've had mine for four weeks, and I had three weeks of fantastic quality, ridiculously fast prints - I was over the moon. Then it developed a fault with the extruder and now it can't even get past the first couple of layers (throwing an obscure Klipper error that doesn't even exist in Google's index). The response from Elegoo? Complete radio silence.
I've got loads of stuff that needs printing _soon_ so I've had to order a P1S, and this thing's just going to the shed.
I would suggest returning it.
The fact that they are too cheap to add fully automatic bed leveling when Creality can include it on their sub £200 ender makes me inclined to ignore this one despite its speed. They are not the only 3d printer that can go to 500. They need to up their game.
At 2:30 into the video I do mention it has mesh bed leveling
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I 2nd your first 🤔. Many thanks 👍
So this Elegoo, Cura, Klipper, Moonraker...wtf, so confusing. And that doesn't even include a slicer? I'm so confused and your video is obviously not made for a newbie in this game. You flapped through that like a goldfish who'd jumped out of his bowl.
Oh! I didn’t know that this was a Cura, Klipper, Moonraker exclusive instructional video. Let me go change the title really quick! Oh! Guess I didn’t mention that the software (Cura) was included on the included USB at 6:50 into the video. I must have flapped outside my fish bowl…. When watching car review videos, you must want driving lessons as well 👍. Looking forward to seeing your exact comment on other review videos as well!
@@TripodsGarage I didn't know my comment was going to trigger you so efficiently! After finally getting my 4 pro setup I discovered that the Cura (supplied with the USB) was the slicer that removed 2 of my questions. But that's neither here nor there. Fact is your video left a lot to be desired, as well as your follow up response. Could've said "you may be right, I'll post a more indepth video later, stay tuned!" I won't be staying tuned for any of your vids in the future. Peace out Goldie!
@@randogame4438- You will be alright, I know listening can tough for you. No need to shed your emotions here, I am not a licensed therapist.
For $300 you can get an Artillery Sidewinder X2 with volcano, direct drive, 110v heated bed, dual belted Zs, oldham couplers on Zs, and a 310x310 build volume. About the only thing this has over it is the PEI sheet. Additionally, the Sidewinder uses an edge card connector on their XZ frame, and all of this stuff gets connected when you place it on top of the base of the machine. It's sad to see everyone jump all over "oh it's got klipper oh klipper klipper klipper". Klipper is just another firmware. Most of the people watching this either already have klipper on a better machine, or have no real idea what the hell Klipper is for. Most people just assume Klipper = FAST...but, let's be real here, at the speeds that bed slingers are running, Marlin isn't going to be any slower. So unless you LIKE diving into Linux, and futzing around with firmware, and trying new things, and staying on the super cutting edge and breaking things just to fix them over and over again, Klipper really doesn't do shit for anyone other than make manufacturers include a whole linux computer with their 3D printer to make it work. Oh, that on-board storage? It can corrupt. Firmware doesn't do that, and Klipper is Firmware mixed with a control system on the board. None of you people pushing klipper klipper klipper ever explain these nuances to your viewers and I suspect it's going to cause a lot of frustration for people who aren't interested in 3D printing as a hobby, but just want to use the printer to print things.
The web interface of Klipper is something everybody can make use of. And the more you know, the more possibilities you have, but as you can still use the standard touchscreen, you don’t need to, if you don’t want to.
I will still give the printer you mentioned a look 😊.
I don't mind a troll or rant. I have the Artillery Sidewinder X2, and it is a good machine. It has a 300x300x400 build volume advertised, not 310. I like my SX2. However, the ribbon cables have failed on me twice, and having the permanent glass bed is an issue. Yes, Klipper is just another firmware. Both Marlin and Klipper have their positives and negatives I am not here to have say which is better. However, you failed to mention, to get any of the features that Klipper has on a machine running Marlin, you will need to get something like Octoprint running on a PI or another computer. I never said Klipper was cutting edge. I compared it to the Neptune 3, and what made it different. Where am I pushing Klipper? I mention that it is running Kipper. I never say that Klipper is better than Marlin. As mentioned in the video, people can use this basically as a Neptune 3. Slice the file, save to USB or SD card and hit print off the display. Do you use onboard storage with computers? Can they get corrupt? I bet you have a cell phone with onboard storage, running an OS? Where is that in your comment? What Marlin and Klipper does, it gives people a choice. Clearly your choice isn't Klipper. As for me, I run both. I bet if I watch other videos, and read the comments, your comment will not be there. Yet, you pass this judgement on me. Most people want choices, and with choices it drives innovation.
@@TripodsGarage Also, from what I have heard Elegoo works quite well out of the box. The artillery x2 not so much (plastic feeding parts for filament) and is a bit old. It’s normal that newer models are better.
But of course of one needs the bigger build volume, it seems like a good choice. Helmets are usually a problem on the standard 225x225, not so on the artillery
@@UA-cam_Nr.1 - Yes, with Elegoo machines, most have a very positive experience out of the box. There have been complaints of stripped gears in the extruder. This happened on my Artillery Hornet. The X2 is about 2 years old, and Artillery hasn't released any new printers since. I would like to see a Plus and Max version of the Neptune 4, like they did with the Neptune 3. Then the consumer has the option to pick a Marlin or Klipper machine with almost identical footprints.
The way this rant went, you would think the title of my video was "Why I love Klipper over Marlin" or "Never buy another 3D Printer with Marlin". I simply said the comparisons between the Neptune 3 and the Neptune 4. That the Neptune 4 has a curtain fan, more inputs, ethernet jack, and a higher spec'd board running Klipper. I proceeded to say that the Elegoo Neptune 4 is far better than the last Klipper bed slinger I tested. I never once said that Klipper was better than Marlin in this video. His claims of me pushing Klipper in this video is laughable. However, as a 3D printer OS, Klipper is superior in many ways. Plus can be just a simple to use as a Marlin based machine, just like the Neptune 4.
It has been bad enough for printer manufactures to provide updated Marlin firmware. Who are the manufactures are selling Marlin input shaping and pressure advance?
@@TripodsGarage I waiting for the neptune 4 plus as my first printer what I worry about is those complex printer head including the extruder and how difficult it is to dismantle them when there is problem. Something I'd like to hear more in the reviews.
I wish they made easy dismantling a feature. Nice review BTW !
Great review
Many thanks bud, truly appreciated 👍