Hollywood needs to bring back the Verhoeven squibs like in Total Recall and Robocop. Love the movie, but it is very loosely based on Robert Heinlein's novel, one of the truly great authors during the golden age of sci fi.
Paul Verhoeven is a great director, but he probably wasn't the right director for this project. His personal animus against the politics of the book caused him to satirize the $@!( out of this film.
@@duaneswab3420 Have to disagree, this is a great movie.. you just ignore the blatant satire portion, which really only consists of NPH in an SS uniform.
Did you notice how the cow got censored, but right afterwards they show uncensored hamburger humans in the Mormon colony? THat always cracked me up. :)
@@phil_tony_corky And you really think that THAT society this movie plays in is concerned about a cow being tortured, hm? Naaaah. This is an obvious joke Verhoeven made there. If you don't think so, check out his director's commentary on the movie. :)
It has been said that it was done out of fear that PETA would complain about it. But also saved a lot in CGI since it was just a guy crouching there while splashing red paint around.
I remember seeing this in the theaters AFTER I read the book. I'm like "What the hell is going on?" It was like watching a live action "Itchy & Scratchy Cartoon" from the Simpsons. That was the best analogy I could come up with in 1997.
This came out right before my birthday and my folks came to visit. They offered to take me out to the movies to celebrate. We went to this. Yes, I made my sainted grandmother watch this. lol.
i was in the army in 97 when this came out the crowd was so wild, twas a standing ovation, we immediatly walked right back in and watched the 2nd viewing of it making us late returning to base, we speant 2 weeks of extra duty for that experience, and id gladly do it again
No joke: I wanted to look up Jake Busey on google to show his picture to someone. But I couldn't remember his name. Luckily I remembered his father - whose name I also couldn't remember at the moment. SO I entered: "The son of that actor with the teeth". Aaaaaand google got it! :D
You were all right - there is indeed an RPG for Starship Troopers and it did get a Animated/CG series (Roughnecks: Starship Trooper Chronicles). Although the animation is a little rough by today's standards, the story lines generally weren't bad. Introduced another alien race and mech suits for the troopers.
This book was maybe the first big sci fi book with a Hispanic lead. It was a big deal. It raised some eyebrows when the book was published in the late 1950s. That's why the names. Juan Rico, Carmen Ibanez, Dizzy Flores and they're all from Argentina. Heinlein had them speaking Esperanto, back during the first push to try to make that an international language.
I think the point was to show how everyone is equal in regards to race, all that matters is whether you're a citizen or a civilian which is what determines your rights and responsibilities
@@chrisnielsen9885 Yes, it was a small clue and it wasn't backed up with any SS actions. And obviously it wasn't enough since so many people 'get it wrong'. The main problem is that Paul didn't humanize the bugs and we all kill bugs in real life. A secondary problem is that Paul didn't show any serious advantage to being a citizen. The worst piece of legislation he tells us about is that civilians and citizens can both get birth licenses but citizens can get them easier. The guy in the SS coat made a ferret up Mom's leg and tried to figure out how planet colonizing war bugs think. People didn't see as a Nazi because he never did anything Nazi.
I was living in Tampa when this came out, the movie was even better because we had some drunk Marines in the audience randomly yelling, "Go Marines!" and "Go Crickets!" Another fun Sci fi 90s film to check out would be Event Horizon.
Definitely Dizzy, all the way. She's a ride or die. Friend of mine was in the Army. Said they used partial charge grenades, as if that wasn't bad enough. To he last sequel in the series was an animated one and it was actually pretty good. It was done after at least two live action dvd's.
@@chrisnielsen9885 And she's sporty. She's gonna be there in the middle of the action. Looks great in a baseball cap, T-shirt and old jeans, string bikini, or evening wear.
12:11 Mark! Denise Richards is the catalyst of an episode of "Seinfeld"! She's supposedly playing a 15-year-old, and her father catches George gazing at her cleavage! 😂 Jerry had to teach him how not to get caught! 😅
I found a treasure map and interpreting the clues have led me to this R Knights content! The next clue says, "Push the like button, subscribe and set notifications to all to claim the treasure!" It must be pretty valuable.
26:08 Mark! Oh, wait a second! D'OH! In "Seinfeld" Brenda played what Elayne called "The Braless Wonder"! So in this movie, in this scene, we are seeing two actresses at the same time, who appeared in separate breast related episodes of "Seinfeld"! 😃 I didn't know it was Brenda until a few moments ago, because when I saw the movie at a movie theater, I didn't recognize her then. 😳
I grew up watching Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles. It's a children's cartoon that came on every morning before 2nd grade in 1999. I might have had some of the toys too.
It was animated and generally safe to watch for kids but I'm not sure it was really made for kids. It was syndicated and came on at different times in different markets. It also got canceled before the story got finished :(
19:20 in the build up to D Day they did live fire practices at Slapton Sands in Devon because the terrain was similar to Utah beach. They evacuated 3000 people from the area to keep it secret before running the practice operations that'd cover all aspects of the plan, known as Operation Tiger, which was a disaster. During the first practice assault they planned to conduct a Naval bombardment over the heads of the landing troops to acclimatise them to the noise but the bombardment was delayed and several landing craft missed the communication resulting in about 450 casualties when they landed just as the bombardment started. The following early morning German E Boats also managed to get past the escorts and attacked one of the troop transport convoys, sinking 3 troop transports and killing another 749 servicemen.
Robert Heinlein has always been a favorite author. I have almost all of his works (some are hard to find). The book version is great and the only thing that set me off from the movie version was no powered armor suit . When it was made they couldn't do it or cgi.
I remember seeing the gem of a movie back in 1997 when it came out. I was at the time in tech school at Sheppard AFB, TX. Also saw Air Force One around the same time during that summer. The CGI of this movie still holds up almost 30 years later. Plus I also love Denna Myer who plays Dizzy. The shower scene was hilarious because Basic would have been more interesting.
There are 5 or 6 total Starship Trooper movies, one of the animated ones is on streaming and they are ALL good, IMO. There was an Animated/CG series called "Roughnecks: Starship Trooper Chronicles" They went straight to DVD because they couldn't get a big studio to fund a theatrical release. This should NOT be remade EVER! Re-released, okay, but NEVER remade. It's perfect and camp at the proper time at the appropriate moments.
There are several RPGs based on this concept, but the only one I remember playing was called Bug Hunters, basically a combination of Aliens Space Marines & Starship Troopers' soldiers. Quite fun but probably long out of print (decades, lol).
Well the blonde looks more natural and not so fake and not as much makeup. I prefer the blonde she is cool, chill and actually into him. The Brunette is a squeamish princess type spoiled and thinks she is amazing.
39:10 Mark! Hmm. Lobsters and other crustaceans or "shell fish" are basically a type of bug! So if you have ever eaten one of those, on purpose, maybe you have some idea about the taste? 🤔
@@RKnights you guys did not disappoint. I loved the reactions to Xander's ending. Sadly, if you ever do watch the sequels, you definitely see why they were direct to video.
57:50 Mark! Thumb Up #294! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊 Notes: I graduated from high school in 1982. At some point during my high school years, I read the library's copies of the novel, both the hardcover and the softcover, to compare and contrast. Once I learned that the paperbacks had more advertising, and that was the most significan difference, I stopped duel reading. But anyway, it was a very long wait for the movie to finally come out! I was so relieved when it finally did! "Starlog Magazine" was keeping me up to date. 😎 Denise Richards gets to be sexier in "Wild Things"! 😘 As for the sequel movies? The sex appeal factor was reduced and more focus was on the action that was also less gorey. Sally Struthers once told "Entertainment Tonight" that she would rather see a man kiss a woman's breast than cut it off with a chainsaw! She didn't like the connection between sex and violence! However, those parents that shield their children from seeing anything too sexy, seem to prefer the violence. 🤷♂️ However, children have easier access to a home entertainment system than they do to a movie theater. So if I recall correctly, the sequel movies were much tamer just because children exist. People who wanted the adult themes to continue were probably dissatisfied. 🤔🤷♂️ Ironically, as I see it, before someone came up with "Unrated" as a term that people began to associate with being code for "more bare breasts" as with "The Dukes of Hazzard" for example, "Direct To Video" was thought to mean the same thing! 😁 By the way! In the "CBS" television series versions, both live-action and animated cartoon, "Daisy Duke" was oh so sexy because of her famous shorts! 😉 But the makers of the movie seemed to fail to grasp that notion! Sure, Jessica Simpson is sexy as "Daisy Duke" in her short shorts! But she had to compete with girls that actually bared their breasts and butts and even more so in the deleted scenes! But with the edited for content and time allowed version shown on regular broadcast antenna television, Daisy Duke didn't have such competition and so she was the sexiest one on screen after all! A lot of movies did that as I recall, as they tried to appeal to as many markets as they could. 🤔 like how "Walmart" sells CDs with the explicet lyrics removed. Or they did before there was a ratings system with suitable warnings about content!
I loved the movie, and the book as well..... but I much prefer the book "Armor" by John Steakley. He obviously borrowed heavily into the essence of the original book, but instead creates his own 'world at war against a race of insects' and spins a fascinating narrative centered around a scout named 'Felix'.... in a war where a scout has an expected combat life of 2 or 3 drops, Felix 'The Engine' has survived 20 drops, and the insects now recognize who he is....
47:23 Mark! Hmm. In 1997 they made a live-action video game titled "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" and some people in it thought that they had made a movie not a game! People keep asking for a series or movie, without realizing the game exists! Someone edited the game play to make a movie of it, but I don't know if it still exists legally or not. 🤔 He did the same thing with the games "Star Trek: Borg" and "Star Trek: Klingon" and I haven't seen them in decades! But my point is, would your idea be considered to be too much like yhe game? 🤔
The follow up movies are Starship Troopers 2 Hero of the Federation, Starship Troopers 3 Marauder, Starship Troopers Invasion, and Starship Troopers A Traitor of Mars. The last 2 are CGI, and while I like them all, the CGI ones are stronger in my opinion.
There are FIVE total movies AND a television show. The TV show "Roughnecks" was more for kids/young adults. It was animated and followed the books more closely. They introduced the "Skinnies", an allied alien race we freed from the Arachnids. The show was kind of mixed and only really appealed to fans of the novel. The only movie that is KINDA worth watching is Traitor of Mars. The others are shit.
I am on board with Carmen being a bad news in every way. Her arrogant changes to course orbiting Jupiter cause her ship to almost be destroyed and lose comm equipment so they could not warn Earth about incoming asteroid. The movie and the book are way different. The book was written by a WWII vet who wrote about Rico as a boy who grows up into a man. The Space and Bugs as enemy were basically just setting, not the focus. Paul Verhoeven could not finish the book as he did not like the conservative leaning of the book, he read maybe three chapters before deciding to do his own thing. So he took names and descriptions and made a parody. His idea was that he would show this dystopia of population control and totalitarian warmongering and show it working well and let audience work out for themselves what is wrong with the situation. He was surprised how many people took it not as a cautionary tale, but as something to emulate.
17:14 Mark! He's one of the guys that took turns playing "Austin Reed" in "Days of Our Lives" back when it was still on "NBC". That's who I still think of him as. 😀
There is an anime from the eighties, that is closer on the human side. However the aliens are very different and the story is different. A cgi series came out in 1999 called Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles and was great. Both are available on UA-cam.
Big dump of facts off the top of my head. The director was too bored of the book so he didn't even read past the 1st chapter. It was mostly about training and politics and little about actual combat. During the shower scene even the director went naked to be fair to the actors. The main characters were chosen because they were good looking and looked like they came out of a Nazi German propaganda posters. The uniforms are meant to look like WW2 German uniforms. Karl's Colonel's uniform looks like a strait up SS uniform. The guy that got his head shot off in training, married the woman that shot him. I don't know if they are still together. Johnny Rico is actually Filipino in the books. When the ships get blown in half, those are scale models, not CGI. The director of the movie made this to be a satire about Fascism, he did everything so over the top that he assumed the audience would get the joke. But many people like it unironically. Carmen Ibanez (Denise Richards) is ALWAYS SMILING except when she get's injured, for a moment. Charlie Sheen did her so wrong.. absolutely gorgeous women from the 90s... that hair. That's not a movie fact.. it's just a fact. The soundtrack is just amazing, same guy that composed the score to Conan the Barbarian. Basil Poledouris
It was INTENDED to be a satire of Fascism, except Verhoeven doesn't understand the difference of Fascism and Militarism. Especially, Militarism in the middle of a war. That's why so many people turned this into a cult classic, because the movie is only dressed in Fascism. Fascists don't tell the truth about war. They wouldn't broadcast the defeat at Klendathu. The Sky Marshal wouldn't take responsibility and step down. At no point does the media misrepresent what happens. What is shown is a prosperous meritocratic society based in freedom.
@@Nick-pu3of how? There is nothing in the film to indicate the Federation is less than 100% truthful. And no - it's people who think the film is a satire of fascism that have no clue what fascism is, and how the Federation is anything but.
@@jakubfabisiak9810I mean, there's plenty in the film, but to be frank about it I don't feel like trying to explain to you is a worthwhile activity. By your attitude, I'm pretty sure you won't read what I say, you'll just wait for your turn to speak. If you're willing to listen reasonably, I am willing to go through it, but only if you're going to have an open mind. Are you?
@@Nick-pu3of do tell, where is all this fascism I keep hearing about. Where is the state-controlled everything? Where is forcible suppression of opposition? Control of information? Anyone with a pair of braincells to rub together can see the UCF is a polar opposite of fascism, but speak your piece, maybe we all missed something, and when the characters swear an oath to "uphold and protect the constitutional liberties of all citizens, and other lawful residents of the Federation" that is code for fascism. Or when service is not only strictly volountary, but you can resign at any time, that's a form of oppression.
There is an animated series available on DVD. I have the set. Better than the movies, closer to the book but still lacking every troopers Powered Armour. "Roughnecks: Starship Trooper Chronicles"
The goal of the drill sargeants are specifically to try and force cadets to quit; the whole process from sign up till the end of boot camp is ment to thin out the recruits as much as possible leaving behind only the best
44:29 Mark! Despite the lack of satire, I enjoyed the sequels as combat action movies! Quote: The film helped launch a multimedia franchise that includes four sequels-Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation (2004), Starship Troopers 3: Marauder (2008), Starship Troopers: Invasion (2012), and Starship Troopers: Traitor of Mars (2017)-as well as an animated television series, Roughnecks: Starship Troopers ... End quote!
This movie covered events in the first half of the book. Events and things from the second half of the book including the powered armor was shown and covered in the 3rd Starship Troopers movie. Casper Van Dien even came back and played Rico again for that one.
Starship Troopers 3 is closer to getting the tone right than 2, but it's direct to DVD low budget, you just are going to have to accept that the special effects aren't going to be a quarter as good as the 100 million dollar 1st movie. It features the return of Casper Van Dien as Rico.
two are the foreign fantasy movies i watch over and over again: return of the jedi, and this one! an exciting adaptation of heinlein's great novel, strikingly close in spirit and substance to the original. i hope that when they film the book again someday, the new movie will be even better and show us the things that pol Verhoeven has changed: the insects as a technologically advanced civilization equal to humans and the earth soldiers in their armored flying energy suits!(johnny rico: - wearing his suit, the fighter looks like of a hydrocephalic gorilla armed with gorilla-sized weapons..😊)
The "oath of service" in the movie is literally taken word-for-word from the book, which according to Heinlein himself illustrated his ideal society - no joke. People say the book is what a scary parody of a fascist hellscape looks like, but this is what late-life Heinlein actually desired (in his younger years he had a rather opposite bent from what I understand.) The book is written like an instruction manual to indoctrinate and radicalize the reader to accept a world where there is no democracy anymore. It's as clever as it is insidious - he did the same thing in his previous novel, "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" - which is legit a bangin' good story btw, unlike Starship Troopers which is wooden and filled with page after page of propagandistic jingoism and long descriptions of mundane military life in the supposed future. Anyway... In "The Moon...", you have a character called Professor Bernardo De La Paz. *Professor*. The book sets him up as an intellectual and an authority figure on...well, everything pretty much. "Professor" De La Paz is the main conduit to the reader of some seriously out there political ideas (the tamest of which can probably be labelled as ultra-extreme libertarianism, where taxing someone is THE worst crime imaginable against humanity - not genocide, but TAXES!) His analog in Starship Troopers the novel is a series of instructors giving a great many lessons in "history and moral philosophy", which is essentially an authoritarian's view of society, and how the individual should be obedient and subservient and willing to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the state - up to and including giving their life. Nice, eh? The movie retains some of that (like the school class at the beginning of the movie, for example), but most has been sanitized, largely because Verhoeven thought the book was sh-te, and because of his own experiences growing up under Nazi Germany's occupation in the Netherlands during WWII. So what we get instead is a very gory satire where one of the cast members ends up wearing essentially a Gestapo uniform to make a not very subtle point... ;) (Well to be quite honest, nothing in this movie is at all subtle. lol!)
So there are some interesting things from the book not in the movie( cause varhovien did bother reading it): the bugs have spaceships and lazer guns, theres other aliens in it, and the MIs are all equipped with power armour which is why theres no ground vehicle
There is a TV show. It's called Roughnecks: The Star Ship Trooper Chronicles. It was an early CGI animation designed for kids! It's very well written, and surprisingly good. Sony never finished the story... The sequels are super low budget, if you can look past that, the writing is good. The first sequel is a horror movie, the second sequel is crazy, and in a way more sci-fi. There's also some Japanese animated CGI movies that are not really tied to the movies
If it isa fission nuclear blast then yes they would be exposed to radiation fallout. If it is a fusion nuclear blast, then there would be minimal radiation fallout.
📌skip the second movie and watch the third part Starship Troopers 3: Marauder it's kinda on the same level like the first. the second was confined in one location and boring
Helldivers 2 is way way closer to the book than the movie. The only thing missing from the book is the power armor. (No, the mech suit isn't the books power armor) . This movie captures the tone, but is missing a lot of the elements from the book.
Been a long time since i read the book . As i remember The book is very different, at the end Jonny walks into his Farther at a space station who he belived to had died, his farther joined up and was a private. The enemy is a race called the skinnies , and the marines land in pods and use Mech suits. I think one of the sequels was ok, the anime i did enjoy
The book is short and amazing. You guys should read it and then do a book discussion and review of it. Yes they have shoulder nukes on their power armor in the book.
This movie was done on the cheap, couldnt afford armour so they reused the Aliens Colonal Marine armour repainted. The movie is nothing like the book. Seen one of the animated sequals which was good.
So you are ready to play the 1976 board wargame, Starship troopers from Avalon Hill, very true to the 1959 book of Robert Heinlein up to Klendathu planet !
Really good movie. An icon of SciFi from the 90s. But the only downside of this movie is Paul Verhoeven didn't really care to understand what was happening in the book. With all those insane technologies that these people have, the infantry is just walking around with normal rifles and almost no armor? In the books each Trooper has a whole suit he was wearing, that was capable of doing massive amounts of damage. And if here in the movies you might be thinking the bombing of Buenos Aires was a false flag to start the invasion of the Arachnids, in the books there was absolutely no doubt that it was the Arachnids who were bombing Earth. One of the most rewatchable scifi movies out there, I wonder why they never made sequels... P.S. When they say nukes, they mean actual nukes. Tactical nukes. In the books I think each suit or at least some were equipped with nuke launchers.
"Oh my God, I hate this guy" I agree! He was the douche character of this movie and he played it well. I remember seeing this in the theater and many people in the audience actually clapped when the brain bug sucked that guy's brains out.
The novel is a complete borefest. A Bait and Switch. It masquerades as a space marine combat novel, but is really about the author's classroom philosophy and little else. The movie, while flawed, is still the superior product.
Oh no, the novel is far better. True about it being something other than expected - there is very little action in it, as Heinlein's books were all different "what if" scenarios, and ST is "what if you had to earn your right to vote". The movie is a campy 90s action flick that attempted to be something it's not, but still ended up a cult classic.
Not many people notice how the majority of the older characters have some form of disability, such as his political teacher's arm, his science teacher's sunglasses (implying she's blind), the recruiter with an arm and both legs missing. An implication that war is as normal in this society as driving a car.
47:47 Mark! More quotes! Quote One: Why was Starship Troopers a flop? The poor performance of Starship Troopers was blamed, in part, on competition from a high number of successful or anticipated science fiction and genre films released that year, its satirical and violent content failing to connect with mainstream audiences, and ineffective marketing. End quote! Quote Two: Why was Starship Troopers controversial? It also became enormously controversial because of the political views it seemed to support. Reviewers were strongly critical of the book's intentional glorification of the military, an aspect described as propaganda and likened to recruitment. End quote! Quote Three: What is Starship Troopers a parody of? Starship Troopers satirizes fascist propaganda through over-the-top visuals and messaging. Audiences misconstrued the film on release, failing to grasp its satire of propaganda. Hollywood films, like Starship Troopers, often feature themes of glorified military action and propaganda. End of quote! Why is Starship Troopers so popular now? Perhaps more importantly, we've recognized the film for what it is: a brilliant piece of satire that's so overtly anti-fascist and militaristic that it's truly a wonder that people missed the point when it first came out. End of quote! Quote Four: Are humans the bad guys in Starship Troopers? The Arachnids are the main antagonists and main symbolic insectoid species of Starship Troopers series. End of quote! Quote Five: Was Starship Troopers written as a satire? And certainly, Verhooven himself would tell you it was all a grand satire, as well as something of a cautionary tale. “War makes fascists of us all,” he said, in defense of the film. End of quote!
Hollywood needs to bring back the Verhoeven squibs like in Total Recall and Robocop. Love the movie, but it is very loosely based on Robert Heinlein's novel, one of the truly great authors during the golden age of sci fi.
Heinlein? I always thought it was Phillip H/K Dick.
Paul Verhoeven is a great director, but he probably wasn't the right director for this project. His personal animus against the politics of the book caused him to satirize the $@!( out of this film.
@@duaneswab3420 Any sane human is opposed to the politics of the book. And Heinlein was a scumbag.
the book is also on the USMC recommended TBR list for officers/candidates. It's such a great book.
@@duaneswab3420 Have to disagree, this is a great movie.. you just ignore the blatant satire portion, which really only consists of NPH in an SS uniform.
Trivia: The cast refused to be filmed naked unless the director and camera crew were naked at the same time. They were.
Did you notice how the cow got censored, but right afterwards they show uncensored hamburger humans in the Mormon colony? THat always cracked me up. :)
Well difference between live torture and dead remains
@@phil_tony_corky And you really think that THAT society this movie plays in is concerned about a cow being tortured, hm?
Naaaah. This is an obvious joke Verhoeven made there. If you don't think so, check out his director's commentary on the movie. :)
They also censored the sticking of the brain bug in the end
It has been said that it was done out of fear that PETA would complain about it. But also saved a lot in CGI since it was just a guy crouching there while splashing red paint around.
I remember seeing this in the theaters AFTER I read the book. I'm like "What the hell is going on?"
It was like watching a live action "Itchy & Scratchy Cartoon" from the Simpsons. That was the best analogy I could come up with in 1997.
That's not Barney.
That's freaking DOOGY HOUSER!
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The armor was reused in Firefly as the Alliance armor.
Thats true
This came out right before my birthday and my folks came to visit. They offered to take me out to the movies to celebrate. We went to this. Yes, I made my sainted grandmother watch this. lol.
i was in the army in 97 when this came out the crowd was so wild, twas a standing ovation, we immediatly walked right back in and watched the 2nd viewing of it making us late returning to base, we speant 2 weeks of extra duty for that experience, and id gladly do it again
No joke: I wanted to look up Jake Busey on google to show his picture to someone. But I couldn't remember his name. Luckily I remembered his father - whose name I also couldn't remember at the moment. SO I entered: "The son of that actor with the teeth". Aaaaaand google got it! :D
@@jemal999 :D
You were all right - there is indeed an RPG for Starship Troopers and it did get a Animated/CG series (Roughnecks: Starship Trooper Chronicles). Although the animation is a little rough by today's standards, the story lines generally weren't bad. Introduced another alien race and mech suits for the troopers.
I need to find the rpg
My son and I used to watch the animated/cg series and if I remember correctly, they were pretty good.
There was a rts released in the late 90s and a fps called marauder, plus a recent new rts
The Skinnies are in the book.
This book was maybe the first big sci fi book with a Hispanic lead. It was a big deal. It raised some eyebrows when the book was published in the late 1950s. That's why the names. Juan Rico, Carmen Ibanez, Dizzy Flores and they're all from Argentina. Heinlein had them speaking Esperanto, back during the first push to try to make that an international language.
In the book, Rico is Phillipino.
Paul Verhoeven specifically chose to have actors play the characters who do not look very Hispanic .
@@manzell Philippino? Completely forgot that. I stand corrected.
I think the point was to show how everyone is equal in regards to race, all that matters is whether you're a citizen or a civilian which is what determines your rights and responsibilities
I remember a lot of people at the time completely missed the satire in this and just thought it was an over the top action movie
Paul did a poor job of making the satire elements work.
To me it's easy to see since he also made RoboCop, a well made satire that everyone gets.
@@yodieyuh idk, I thought the good guys wearing SS uniforms was a bit of a clue
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Yes, it was a small clue and it wasn't backed up with any SS actions. And obviously it wasn't enough since so many people 'get it wrong'.
The main problem is that Paul didn't humanize the bugs and we all kill bugs in real life.
A secondary problem is that Paul didn't show any serious advantage to being a citizen. The worst piece of legislation he tells us about is that civilians and citizens can both get birth licenses but citizens can get them easier.
The guy in the SS coat made a ferret up Mom's leg and tried to figure out how planet colonizing war bugs think. People didn't see as a Nazi because he never did anything Nazi.
Clearly Psi-Corp was involved in the making of the recruitment videos.
Who else gets GROPOS vibes watching this? Especially the fight scene between air/infantry?
I was living in Tampa when this came out, the movie was even better because we had some drunk Marines in the audience randomly yelling, "Go Marines!" and "Go Crickets!" Another fun Sci fi 90s film to check out would be Event Horizon.
The music is great and Dizzy is Hot!
Definitely Dizzy, all the way. She's a ride or die. Friend of mine was in the Army. Said they used partial charge grenades, as if that wasn't bad enough. To he last sequel in the series was an animated one and it was actually pretty good. It was done after at least two live action dvd's.
I’m Team Dizz as well. She’s far better looking than the other one
@@chrisnielsen9885 And she's sporty. She's gonna be there in the middle of the action. Looks great in a baseball cap, T-shirt and old jeans, string bikini, or evening wear.
I really wish they had attempted powered armor from the book.
The animated series included that and other stuff the movie left out.
One of my favorite movie scores.
The effects in this movie are amazing.
There's CGI in this movie that's so good it looks like models and models so god they look like the best CGI.
12:11 Mark! Denise Richards is the catalyst of an episode of "Seinfeld"! She's supposedly playing a 15-year-old, and her father catches George gazing at her cleavage! 😂 Jerry had to teach him how not to get caught! 😅
The ship in port and the space port itself were both PRACTICAL effects.
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26:08 Mark! Oh, wait a second! D'OH! In "Seinfeld" Brenda played what Elayne called "The Braless Wonder"! So in this movie, in this scene, we are seeing two actresses at the same time, who appeared in separate breast related episodes of "Seinfeld"! 😃
I didn't know it was Brenda until a few moments ago, because when I saw the movie at a movie theater, I didn't recognize her then. 😳
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My wife had a call back to be in the Zander / Johnny no ranks fight but family issues efed it up and she was scratched from the production.
"It's afraid!" That's why brain bugs taste like chicken.
So not like spoo then
Starship Troopers was one of Amy Smart's first roles, as Stack Lumbreiser, the other pilot on the ship with Carmen.
I grew up watching Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles. It's a children's cartoon that came on every morning before 2nd grade in 1999. I might have had some of the toys too.
It was animated and generally safe to watch for kids but I'm not sure it was really made for kids. It was syndicated and came on at different times in different markets. It also got canceled before the story got finished :(
@hackerx7329 Paul Veerhoven was the executive producer, but that show apparently pulled a lot from the original book too.
@@CNTconnoisseur Verhoeven never even read the book.
19:20 in the build up to D Day they did live fire practices at Slapton Sands in Devon because the terrain was similar to Utah beach. They evacuated 3000 people from the area to keep it secret before running the practice operations that'd cover all aspects of the plan, known as Operation Tiger, which was a disaster.
During the first practice assault they planned to conduct a Naval bombardment over the heads of the landing troops to acclimatise them to the noise but the bombardment was delayed and several landing craft missed the communication resulting in about 450 casualties when they landed just as the bombardment started.
The following early morning German E Boats also managed to get past the escorts and attacked one of the troop transport convoys, sinking 3 troop transports and killing another 749 servicemen.
Robert Heinlein has always been a favorite author. I have almost all of his works (some are hard to find). The book version is great and the only thing that set me off from the movie version was no powered armor suit . When it was made they couldn't do it or cgi.
I remember seeing the gem of a movie back in 1997 when it came out. I was at the time in tech school at Sheppard AFB, TX. Also saw Air Force One around the same time during that summer. The CGI of this movie still holds up almost 30 years later. Plus I also love Denna Myer who plays Dizzy. The shower scene was hilarious because Basic would have been more interesting.
11:25 You are absolutely right! Diz for the win. Not even a close call.
There are 5 or 6 total Starship Trooper movies, one of the animated ones is on streaming and they are ALL good, IMO. There was an Animated/CG series called "Roughnecks: Starship Trooper Chronicles"
They went straight to DVD because they couldn't get a big studio to fund a theatrical release.
This should NOT be remade EVER! Re-released, okay, but NEVER remade. It's perfect and camp at the proper time at the appropriate moments.
There are several RPGs based on this concept, but the only one I remember playing was called Bug Hunters, basically a combination of Aliens Space Marines & Starship Troopers' soldiers. Quite fun but probably long out of print (decades, lol).
I would love to play it
@@RKnightsA good way to experience Starship Troopers in a game is the Starship Troopers mod for the game Squad.
Well the blonde looks more natural and not so fake and not as much makeup. I prefer the blonde she is cool, chill and actually into him. The Brunette is a squeamish princess type spoiled and thinks she is amazing.
Captain Deladier . Giggity
That opening clip! 🔥🔥
The finniest thing is that it perfectly encompasses the movie AND how you guys usually act on camera 🤣🤣
Thanks so much!!
Fun fact, serenity/ firefly borrowed prop weapons left over from this film
Oh! 'City of Lost Children ' from 1995 is a movie you might want to check out.
39:10 Mark! Hmm. Lobsters and other crustaceans or "shell fish" are basically a type of bug! So if you have ever eaten one of those, on purpose, maybe you have some idea about the taste? 🤔
This oughta be a good one
Hope you like it :-)
@@RKnights you guys did not disappoint. I loved the reactions to Xander's ending. Sadly, if you ever do watch the sequels, you definitely see why they were direct to video.
57:50 Mark! Thumb Up #294! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊
Notes: I graduated from high school in 1982. At some point during my high school years, I read the library's copies of the novel, both the hardcover and the softcover, to compare and contrast. Once I learned that the paperbacks had more advertising, and that was the most significan difference, I stopped duel reading. But anyway, it was a very long wait for the movie to finally come out! I was so relieved when it finally did!
"Starlog Magazine" was keeping me up to date. 😎
Denise Richards gets to be sexier in "Wild Things"! 😘
As for the sequel movies? The sex appeal factor was reduced and more focus was on the action that was also less gorey.
Sally Struthers once told "Entertainment Tonight" that she would rather see a man kiss a woman's breast than cut it off with a chainsaw! She didn't like the connection between sex and violence!
However, those parents that shield their children from seeing anything too sexy, seem to prefer the violence. 🤷♂️
However, children have easier access to a home entertainment system than they do to a movie theater. So if I recall correctly, the sequel movies were much tamer just because children exist. People who wanted the adult themes to continue were probably dissatisfied. 🤔🤷♂️
Ironically, as I see it, before someone came up with "Unrated" as a term that people began to associate with being code for "more bare breasts" as with "The Dukes of Hazzard" for example, "Direct To Video" was thought to mean the same thing! 😁
By the way! In the "CBS" television series versions, both live-action and animated cartoon, "Daisy Duke" was oh so sexy because of her famous shorts! 😉 But the makers of the movie seemed to fail to grasp that notion! Sure, Jessica Simpson is sexy as "Daisy Duke" in her short shorts! But she had to compete with girls that actually bared their breasts and butts and even more so in the deleted scenes! But with the edited for content and time allowed version shown on regular broadcast antenna television, Daisy Duke didn't have such competition and so she was the sexiest one on screen after all!
A lot of movies did that as I recall, as they tried to appeal to as many markets as they could. 🤔 like how "Walmart" sells CDs with the explicet lyrics removed. Or they did before there was a ratings system with suitable warnings about content!
I loved the movie, and the book as well..... but I much prefer the book "Armor" by John Steakley.
He obviously borrowed heavily into the essence of the original book, but instead creates his own 'world at war against a race of insects' and spins a fascinating narrative centered around a scout named 'Felix'.... in a war where a scout has an expected combat life of 2 or 3 drops, Felix 'The Engine' has survived 20 drops, and the insects now recognize who he is....
The CGI sequles are pretty good. Starship Troopers: Invasion and Starship Troopers: Traitor of Mars.
47:23 Mark! Hmm. In 1997 they made a live-action video game titled "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" and some people in it thought that they had made a movie not a game! People keep asking for a series or movie, without realizing the game exists! Someone edited the game play to make a movie of it, but I don't know if it still exists legally or not. 🤔 He did the same thing with the games "Star Trek: Borg" and "Star Trek: Klingon" and I haven't seen them in decades!
But my point is, would your idea be considered to be too much like yhe game? 🤔
The follow up movies are Starship Troopers 2 Hero of the Federation, Starship Troopers 3 Marauder, Starship Troopers Invasion, and Starship Troopers A Traitor of Mars. The last 2 are CGI, and while I like them all, the CGI ones are stronger in my opinion.
Loving this!!!!
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There are FIVE total movies AND a television show. The TV show "Roughnecks" was more for kids/young adults. It was animated and followed the books more closely. They introduced the "Skinnies", an allied alien race we freed from the Arachnids. The show was kind of mixed and only really appealed to fans of the novel. The only movie that is KINDA worth watching is Traitor of Mars. The others are shit.
I am on board with Carmen being a bad news in every way. Her arrogant changes to course orbiting Jupiter cause her ship to almost be destroyed and lose comm equipment so they could not warn Earth about incoming asteroid.
The movie and the book are way different. The book was written by a WWII vet who wrote about Rico as a boy who grows up into a man. The Space and Bugs as enemy were basically just setting, not the focus. Paul Verhoeven could not finish the book as he did not like the conservative leaning of the book, he read maybe three chapters before deciding to do his own thing. So he took names and descriptions and made a parody. His idea was that he would show this dystopia of population control and totalitarian warmongering and show it working well and let audience work out for themselves what is wrong with the situation. He was surprised how many people took it not as a cautionary tale, but as something to emulate.
17:14 Mark! He's one of the guys that took turns playing "Austin Reed" in "Days of Our Lives" back when it was still on "NBC". That's who I still think of him as. 😀
The state theory behind it is interesting. You are only a real citizen, if you joined the army and took responsibility before.
There is an anime from the eighties, that is closer on the human side. However the aliens are very different and the story is different.
A cgi series came out in 1999 called Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles and was great.
Both are available on UA-cam.
Big dump of facts off the top of my head.
The director was too bored of the book so he didn't even read past the 1st chapter. It was mostly about training and politics and little about actual combat.
During the shower scene even the director went naked to be fair to the actors.
The main characters were chosen because they were good looking and looked like they came out of a Nazi German propaganda posters.
The uniforms are meant to look like WW2 German uniforms. Karl's Colonel's uniform looks like a strait up SS uniform.
The guy that got his head shot off in training, married the woman that shot him. I don't know if they are still together.
Johnny Rico is actually Filipino in the books.
When the ships get blown in half, those are scale models, not CGI.
The director of the movie made this to be a satire about Fascism, he did everything so over the top that he assumed the audience would get the joke. But many people like it unironically.
Carmen Ibanez (Denise Richards) is ALWAYS SMILING except when she get's injured, for a moment. Charlie Sheen did her so wrong.. absolutely gorgeous women from the 90s... that hair. That's not a movie fact.. it's just a fact.
The soundtrack is just amazing, same guy that composed the score to Conan the Barbarian. Basil Poledouris
It was INTENDED to be a satire of Fascism, except Verhoeven doesn't understand the difference of Fascism and Militarism. Especially, Militarism in the middle of a war. That's why so many people turned this into a cult classic, because the movie is only dressed in Fascism. Fascists don't tell the truth about war. They wouldn't broadcast the defeat at Klendathu. The Sky Marshal wouldn't take responsibility and step down. At no point does the media misrepresent what happens. What is shown is a prosperous meritocratic society based in freedom.
@@william_santiagoThat's a fundamental misread of fascism, and a misread of the film. You're supposed to doubt the word of those newsreels.
@@Nick-pu3of how? There is nothing in the film to indicate the Federation is less than 100% truthful. And no - it's people who think the film is a satire of fascism that have no clue what fascism is, and how the Federation is anything but.
@@jakubfabisiak9810I mean, there's plenty in the film, but to be frank about it I don't feel like trying to explain to you is a worthwhile activity. By your attitude, I'm pretty sure you won't read what I say, you'll just wait for your turn to speak.
If you're willing to listen reasonably, I am willing to go through it, but only if you're going to have an open mind. Are you?
@@Nick-pu3of do tell, where is all this fascism I keep hearing about.
Where is the state-controlled everything?
Where is forcible suppression of opposition?
Control of information?
Anyone with a pair of braincells to rub together can see the UCF is a polar opposite of fascism, but speak your piece, maybe we all missed something, and when the characters swear an oath to "uphold and protect the constitutional liberties of all citizens, and other lawful residents of the Federation" that is code for fascism.
Or when service is not only strictly volountary, but you can resign at any time, that's a form of oppression.
There's a pretty good animated spin off "roughnecks: starship troopers chronicles".
There is an animated series available on DVD. I have the set. Better than the movies, closer to the book but still lacking every troopers Powered Armour. "Roughnecks: Starship Trooper Chronicles"
Crazy how well the cgi holds up this many years later.
By the way, there was a tabletop game based on the book long before this movie came out
The goal of the drill sargeants are specifically to try and force cadets to quit; the whole process from sign up till the end of boot camp is ment to thin out the recruits as much as possible leaving behind only the best
Tho the movie didn't know that🤦
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there was an animated series, cgi, that aired in the morning with cartoon shows.
There are two more movies and an animated series.
44:29 Mark! Despite the lack of satire, I enjoyed the sequels as combat action movies!
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The film helped launch a multimedia franchise that includes four sequels-Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation (2004), Starship Troopers 3: Marauder (2008), Starship Troopers: Invasion (2012), and Starship Troopers: Traitor of Mars (2017)-as well as an animated television series, Roughnecks: Starship Troopers ...
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19:43 Mark! Hmm. In "The Monuments Men" (2014) John Goodman's character, I think he fainted, when he learned that live ammunition had been used! 😁
They left out powered armor! Robert Heinlein invents Iron Man's armor in a book 15 years before the comic book and they leave it out of the movie.....
This movie covered events in the first half of the book. Events and things from the second half of the book including the powered armor was shown and covered in the 3rd Starship Troopers movie. Casper Van Dien even came back and played Rico again for that one.
It had a tv show called roughnecks when i was a kid. 90s
Starship Troopers 3 is closer to getting the tone right than 2, but it's direct to DVD low budget, you just are going to have to accept that the special effects aren't going to be a quarter as good as the 100 million dollar 1st movie. It features the return of Casper Van Dien as Rico.
Omg. Never heared someone that knows of Flesh + Blood
two are the foreign fantasy movies i watch over and over again: return of the jedi, and this one! an exciting adaptation of heinlein's great novel, strikingly close in spirit and substance to the original. i hope that when they film the book again someday, the new movie will be even better and show us the things that pol Verhoeven has changed: the insects as a technologically advanced civilization equal to humans and the earth soldiers in their armored flying energy suits!(johnny rico: - wearing his suit, the fighter looks like of a hydrocephalic gorilla armed with gorilla-sized weapons..😊)
Such a fantastic movie. One of the best “satire movies” of all time.
16:59 Mark! 😂 That's a space station that rings Moon Luna! 😮
(When film first released ...i was hoping for the film music score to be "Starship Trooper" by the group YES)
The "oath of service" in the movie is literally taken word-for-word from the book, which according to Heinlein himself illustrated his ideal society - no joke. People say the book is what a scary parody of a fascist hellscape looks like, but this is what late-life Heinlein actually desired (in his younger years he had a rather opposite bent from what I understand.) The book is written like an instruction manual to indoctrinate and radicalize the reader to accept a world where there is no democracy anymore. It's as clever as it is insidious - he did the same thing in his previous novel, "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" - which is legit a bangin' good story btw, unlike Starship Troopers which is wooden and filled with page after page of propagandistic jingoism and long descriptions of mundane military life in the supposed future.
Anyway... In "The Moon...", you have a character called Professor Bernardo De La Paz. *Professor*. The book sets him up as an intellectual and an authority figure on...well, everything pretty much. "Professor" De La Paz is the main conduit to the reader of some seriously out there political ideas (the tamest of which can probably be labelled as ultra-extreme libertarianism, where taxing someone is THE worst crime imaginable against humanity - not genocide, but TAXES!) His analog in Starship Troopers the novel is a series of instructors giving a great many lessons in "history and moral philosophy", which is essentially an authoritarian's view of society, and how the individual should be obedient and subservient and willing to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the state - up to and including giving their life.
Nice, eh? The movie retains some of that (like the school class at the beginning of the movie, for example), but most has been sanitized, largely because Verhoeven thought the book was sh-te, and because of his own experiences growing up under Nazi Germany's occupation in the Netherlands during WWII. So what we get instead is a very gory satire where one of the cast members ends up wearing essentially a Gestapo uniform to make a not very subtle point... ;)
(Well to be quite honest, nothing in this movie is at all subtle. lol!)
So there are some interesting things from the book not in the movie( cause varhovien did bother reading it): the bugs have spaceships and lazer guns, theres other aliens in it, and the MIs are all equipped with power armour which is why theres no ground vehicle
You vill eat zee bugz!
There is a TV show. It's called Roughnecks: The Star Ship Trooper Chronicles. It was an early CGI animation designed for kids! It's very well written, and surprisingly good. Sony never finished the story... The sequels are super low budget, if you can look past that, the writing is good. The first sequel is a horror movie, the second sequel is crazy, and in a way more sci-fi. There's also some Japanese animated CGI movies that are not really tied to the movies
If it isa fission nuclear blast then yes they would be exposed to radiation fallout. If it is a fusion nuclear blast, then there would be minimal radiation fallout.
there are actually an animated series but it was never finished, also there several anime movies
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📌skip the second movie and watch the third part
Starship Troopers 3: Marauder
it's kinda on the same level like the first. the second was confined in one location and boring
For me It's all the way Diz for me "make it 20" 😂😂
Hey Guys! I saw this when came out in theaters ... was both drama and comedy !
Good "popcorn" film!
Y’all should watch the animated sequels next
Helldivers 2 is way way closer to the book than the movie. The only thing missing from the book is the power armor. (No, the mech suit isn't the books power armor) . This movie captures the tone, but is missing a lot of the elements from the book.
Medic!
Been a long time since i read the book .
As i remember The book is very different, at the end Jonny walks into his Farther at a space station who he belived to had died, his farther joined up and was a private.
The enemy is a race called the skinnies , and the marines land in pods and use Mech suits.
I think one of the sequels was ok, the anime i did enjoy
The book is short and amazing. You guys should read it and then do a book discussion and review of it. Yes they have shoulder nukes on their power armor in the book.
In total 5 movies, 2 animated series, 4 video games, 1 role playing game , 2 board type games
This movie was done on the cheap, couldnt afford armour so they reused the Aliens Colonal Marine armour repainted. The movie is nothing like the book.
Seen one of the animated sequals which was good.
ihr kanntet den noch nicht - you didn't know this one? :D Lotsa fun! :D
Who Goes There the book The Think movies are based on was written in 1938.
So you are ready to play the 1976 board wargame, Starship troopers from Avalon Hill, very true to the 1959 book of Robert Heinlein up to Klendathu planet !
Really good movie. An icon of SciFi from the 90s. But the only downside of this movie is Paul Verhoeven didn't really care to understand what was happening in the book. With all those insane technologies that these people have, the infantry is just walking around with normal rifles and almost no armor? In the books each Trooper has a whole suit he was wearing, that was capable of doing massive amounts of damage. And if here in the movies you might be thinking the bombing of Buenos Aires was a false flag to start the invasion of the Arachnids, in the books there was absolutely no doubt that it was the Arachnids who were bombing Earth. One of the most rewatchable scifi movies out there, I wonder why they never made sequels...
P.S. When they say nukes, they mean actual nukes. Tactical nukes. In the books I think each suit or at least some were equipped with nuke launchers.
The second one isn't worth watching but definitely check out the third one Marauders that's where Rico comes back and gets really cool mech armor
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Appreciate that 😃
"Oh my God, I hate this guy" I agree! He was the douche character of this movie and he played it well.
I remember seeing this in the theater and many people in the audience actually clapped when the brain bug sucked that guy's brains out.
The novel is a complete borefest. A Bait and Switch. It masquerades as a space marine combat novel, but is really about the author's classroom philosophy and little else.
The movie, while flawed, is still the superior product.
Oh no, the novel is far better. True about it being something other than expected - there is very little action in it, as Heinlein's books were all different "what if" scenarios, and ST is "what if you had to earn your right to vote".
The movie is a campy 90s action flick that attempted to be something it's not, but still ended up a cult classic.
Not many people notice how the majority of the older characters have some form of disability, such as his political teacher's arm, his science teacher's sunglasses (implying she's blind), the recruiter with an arm and both legs missing.
An implication that war is as normal in this society as driving a car.
-Paul Verhoven also did the new Dune, both parts.- For Democracy. Had a senior moment on the director of Dune, doh.
Aren't you confusing him with Denis Villenueve?
@@JaxMerrick Yeah I am, damn it. Good catch.
I believed you for a second
Verhoven did Robocop, Total Recall, Basic Instinct and Showgirls. Those are his popular 90s movies.
Nukes yes specifically the Davy Crockett starship troopers is the only show/movie I know of that references it whatsoever do you want to know more?
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Why was Starship Troopers a flop?
The poor performance of Starship Troopers was blamed, in part, on competition from a high number of successful or anticipated science fiction and genre films released that year, its satirical and violent content failing to connect with mainstream audiences, and ineffective marketing.
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Why was Starship Troopers controversial?
It also became enormously controversial because of the political views it seemed to support. Reviewers were strongly critical of the book's intentional glorification of the military, an aspect described as propaganda and likened to recruitment.
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What is Starship Troopers a parody of?
Starship Troopers satirizes fascist propaganda through over-the-top visuals and messaging. Audiences misconstrued the film on release, failing to grasp its satire of propaganda. Hollywood films, like Starship Troopers, often feature themes of glorified military action and propaganda.
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Why is Starship Troopers so popular now?
Perhaps more importantly, we've recognized the film for what it is: a brilliant piece of satire that's so overtly anti-fascist and militaristic that it's truly a wonder that people missed the point when it first came out.
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Are humans the bad guys in Starship Troopers?
The Arachnids are the main antagonists and main symbolic insectoid species of Starship Troopers series.
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Was Starship Troopers written as a satire?
And certainly, Verhooven himself would tell you it was all a grand satire, as well as something of a cautionary tale. “War makes fascists of us all,” he said, in defense of the film.
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