How Starlink and Others are Going to Supercharge Airplane Wi-Fi | WSJ

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  • @wsj
    @wsj  3 місяці тому +15

    Read more about the in-flight Wi-Fi tests here: on.wsj.com/47c6UJO

    • @yikes710
      @yikes710 3 місяці тому +4

      I'm good, just another out of touch shitpost by the WSJ of course.

    • @kimberlina68
      @kimberlina68 3 місяці тому

      ​@@yikes710Amen 🙌 yikes! 😊

    • @s72h025dhe
      @s72h025dhe 3 місяці тому +1

      Test in train please.

  • @sasstewart1222
    @sasstewart1222 3 місяці тому +597

    Travelers worst nightmare: the person sitting next to you video calling on speaker phone 😤

    • @obsesivegamer
      @obsesivegamer 3 місяці тому +1

    • @zillabeast
      @zillabeast 3 місяці тому +8

      I came here to express this sentiment as well.

    • @baharimeli
      @baharimeli 3 місяці тому +1

      Never gonna happen

    • @navreetgill
      @navreetgill 3 місяці тому +3

      This will just become an obviously rude thing to do, so people won't do it. The other reason is that it will likely break confidentiality guidelines of their company

    • @vrsce0178
      @vrsce0178 3 місяці тому +7

      @@navreetgill LOL just because it's rude you assume people won't do it?

  • @XCHDragox115
    @XCHDragox115 3 місяці тому +82

    As someone who uses Starlink for home internet, I can say yeah its really fast. Excited to see how airlines will use it for their planes.

  • @7415_Gamer
    @7415_Gamer 3 місяці тому +200

    When a lot of people start streaming 4k movies, that would be the true test for the internet reliability.

    • @sidv4615
      @sidv4615 3 місяці тому +36

      i dont understand peoples obsession with 4k specially on phone or other relatively smaller screens like ipads and stuff. you can barely tell the difference.

    • @shivamkumarshrivastava5182
      @shivamkumarshrivastava5182 3 місяці тому +9

      Why do you wanna stream 4k bro? A normal person cannot even tell the difference between 4k and 1080p.

    • @7415_Gamer
      @7415_Gamer 3 місяці тому

      @@sidv4615 It is mostly the hype that has gotten into people.

    • @danypell2517
      @danypell2517 3 місяці тому +2

      LOL esp. when going from $10 to have "Text & Email Capability" hahaha

    • @baharimeli
      @baharimeli 3 місяці тому

      Im just waiting to stream 24k 🤣

  • @gorombolyierik
    @gorombolyierik 3 місяці тому +125

    4:03 they should activate windows

    • @Quinten372
      @Quinten372 3 місяці тому +7

      yes you can do that for free too

    • @donpayton737
      @donpayton737 3 місяці тому +9

      Activate Windows...
      Plane goes into free fall

    • @pandukawb
      @pandukawb 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Quinten372 How?

    • @Kaleb-lf8kf
      @Kaleb-lf8kf 3 місяці тому +1

      massgrave

    • @regnam503
      @regnam503 3 місяці тому +2

      No, they shouldn't.

  • @Connor-Colyer
    @Connor-Colyer 3 місяці тому +327

    "$40 wifi flight pass"

    • @RudieObias
      @RudieObias 3 місяці тому +59

      If you're on a 12-hour flight for business, who cares what the cost is?! 🤷🏽‍♂

    • @CarlosLopezES
      @CarlosLopezES 3 місяці тому +23

      The best way to avoid people don't need using, and left all bandwidth to people who really needs it. Sad but true.

    • @nixonperez
      @nixonperez 3 місяці тому +39

      SpaceX doesn't allow airlines to charge passengers for Starlink Wi-Fi

    • @TheUnderMasked
      @TheUnderMasked 3 місяці тому

      Per flight

    • @mhjunky4278
      @mhjunky4278 3 місяці тому +1

      That's a small plane is it not?
      Do you really expect a business plan doing $10? Hello?

  • @nat3llite
    @nat3llite 3 місяці тому +17

    Was on a cruise with starlink. Insanely impressive. Must’ve been hundreds if not thousands connect in the middle of the ocean.

    • @CausticLemons7
      @CausticLemons7 3 місяці тому

      I really hope nobody is taking an ocean cruise just to stay in their room watching videos...

  • @chyldstudios
    @chyldstudios 3 місяці тому +27

    Starlink is a revolutionary product. There is no second place.

  • @justinleemiller
    @justinleemiller 3 місяці тому +27

    The subway and flights were the last places I actually read books. I guess that’s over now.

    • @polesefe
      @polesefe 3 місяці тому +4

      Someone will explain to you that you hve to buy another device for NOT hearing unpolite people sitting next to you

  • @xavierrr_eli
    @xavierrr_eli 3 місяці тому +30

    The irony being that I am watching this WHILE on an airplane LOL

  • @shaggydogsales
    @shaggydogsales 3 місяці тому +61

    Click bait title and i suspect paid advertising for Intelsat who is trying to stay relevant in the new starlink world of communication.

    • @dishan85
      @dishan85 3 місяці тому +6

      Exactly. And Intelsat is probably using starlink for their Leo 😂

    • @HikerHansen
      @HikerHansen 3 місяці тому

      Yeah, but we wouldn't have gotten seen the antannas or the network being stress tested over multiple devices without Intelsat inviting the WSJ along.

    • @alexmerrill8538
      @alexmerrill8538 3 місяці тому

      @@dishan85 they're using oneweb. SpaceX doesn't like to partner with geo providers (and why would they)

    • @Hujhjgffw
      @Hujhjgffw 3 місяці тому

      @@dishan85 they use OneWeb. OneWeb was previously tied to Google who had planned offer a residential service like starlink but pulled out because they didn't think such a system would ever be profitable. Their satellites are higher up than starlink and have higher ping, but starlinks only last 5 years before deorbiting so OneWeb should be cheaper to run long term. OneWeb were also supposed to build the starlink satellites at one point. Now the big issue for them is that Russia won't launch their satellites anymore and are dependent on SpaceX.

    • @macuser1232
      @macuser1232 3 місяці тому

      Intelsat’s LEO is a partnership with Eutelsat to use OneWeb. And Intelsat was already acquired by SES. Just in processing now

  • @elibar4148
    @elibar4148 3 місяці тому +4

    This gives a whole new meaning to working in the cloud

  • @joegomez5807
    @joegomez5807 3 місяці тому +2

    Wow! Where has the WSJ been? Is this an advertisement for Intelsat? I have Starlink on my rural farm and it is great. It works great for about twenty screenagers. Starlink is nearly everywhere and in use on ships, offshore oils wells etc. Not sure why all planes do not have it yet.

  • @polesefe
    @polesefe 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm so looking forward to have the person sitting next to me shouting in facetime call without headphones, wonderfull. a marvellous advancement

  • @LukeMaximoBell1
    @LukeMaximoBell1 3 місяці тому +148

    I kind of like how flights don’t have internet.

    • @Furiousbanner
      @Furiousbanner 3 місяці тому +49

      You're the madman that raw dogs a 12 hour flight lol

    • @randomamerican8236
      @randomamerican8236 3 місяці тому +22

      Airplane travel is for reading the generic brochures 200 times or napping and that's all.

    • @edthelazyboy
      @edthelazyboy 3 місяці тому

      @@randomamerican8236 Well, you could bring a tablet / phone and binge watch offline shows. That's what I do for long flights.

    • @ai-with-steve
      @ai-with-steve 3 місяці тому +21

      I agree. You get a long chance to disconnect. Read a book or watch a movie and chill.

    • @duckvs.chipanddale585
      @duckvs.chipanddale585 3 місяці тому +2

      so dont use it

  • @Simon-L-B
    @Simon-L-B 3 місяці тому +77

    “This Wi-Fi is crazy fast” - shows 5mbit upload, just enough for a single passenger to stream their webcam video. I hope they have good traffic shaping as all the juicy download is going to mean nothing as the upload will be maxed with minimal usage from all the passengers uploading their in flight photos, streaming, uploading/syncing files from business users on laptops etc etc etc

    • @danielmankinde1706
      @danielmankinde1706 3 місяці тому +11

      You shouldn’t do video calls on plane flights. That speed is for communication, texts , emails , downloading books but not live or instantaneous streaming

    • @John-Johnson
      @John-Johnson 3 місяці тому +4

      watch the whole video she gets 12mbs upload later on starlink.

    • @lowstrife
      @lowstrife 3 місяці тому +7

      @@danielmankinde1706 Them doing video calls is the entire point of the technology and what it enables. It will be fine. I suspect the 5mbps upload is some form of bandwidth management or QOS, and most traffic is download and not upload anyway.

    • @lowstrife
      @lowstrife 3 місяці тому +7

      I suspect it's 5mbps per client, not for the whole plane. There probably is traffic shaping\QOS on the networking stack.

    • @Simon-L-B
      @Simon-L-B 3 місяці тому

      @@benchoflemons398 could be 10,00000 down and it wouldn’t mind if the upload is the bottleneck.
      I never said Mb or mb.

  • @optimusprime844
    @optimusprime844 3 місяці тому +21

    We got Elon Musk to thank for using his time, money, and expertise to start companies that benefit humanity. Here in Africa Starlink is a Game Changer, students in remote villages can now learn from the best teachers thousands of kms away. Thank you to the SpaceX team too

  • @voiceoverguyharris
    @voiceoverguyharris 3 місяці тому +5

    The thought of taking a flight and watching Netflix, fantastic ... however...having a person next to me on a Teams meeting or Zoom call depresses me. How annoying would that be!

  • @jajefan123456789
    @jajefan123456789 3 місяці тому +3

    Another major +1 for high speed rail. When I travelled China’s HSR network this summer, I had a solid 5G cell connection 99% of the time, even out into the rural countryside. Rail has never had to deal with having to ping satellites for connections. It’s a shame the US doesn’t have a single true HSR corridor anywhere. Japan is even building its first maglev line at this very moment, while we still await our first 120mph train. It’s about time we built one and caught up to the rest of the world.

  • @toothzombie
    @toothzombie 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you, E-L-O-N

  • @nuttaponnoknoi
    @nuttaponnoknoi 3 місяці тому

    Связка супер, сколько арбитражных видео пересмотрел, но только ваш канал показывает самые удачные связки!

  • @mitchanderson7307
    @mitchanderson7307 3 місяці тому +2

    3:09 Starlink antennas use phased array technology to track the satellites. No moving parts.

  • @BW-81
    @BW-81 3 місяці тому +2

    👏👏👏 Can’t wait for GEO+LEO!

    • @Ergzay
      @Ergzay 3 місяці тому

      GEO+LEO is marketing nonsense from Intelsat to save their failing business versus Starlink.

  • @V3T_SC
    @V3T_SC 3 місяці тому

    Congrats on getting back into journalism. Honestly, it's good. Have an updoot.

  • @lootster
    @lootster 3 місяці тому +1

    SpaceX Starlink FTW!

  • @kenup7
    @kenup7 3 місяці тому

    NYC-HNL Hawaiian flight had the starlink wifi and I'm telling you it was one of the fastest wifi I've ever used.

  • @Archer-hg9rw
    @Archer-hg9rw 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s crazy that people are getting better wifi in planes than we get in Lebanon

  • @TroyRubert
    @TroyRubert 3 місяці тому +26

    Thank you SpaceX and Elon for Starlink.

    • @thomasmorel1447
      @thomasmorel1447 3 місяці тому +1

      Starlink satellites are an environmental problem. Those satellites only last 5 years and when they go down and burn in the atmosphere they damaged the atmosphere itself. But yes it’s the most important things to be able to watch Netflix or anything else during a flight

    • @TroyRubert
      @TroyRubert 3 місяці тому +10

      @@thomasmorel1447 bro what? You need to do a little more research into why that five-year number was chosen. Keeping the space environment clean and free of uncontrolled debris is mandatory.

    • @YuenanCao
      @YuenanCao 3 місяці тому

      @@thomasmorel1447 so dumb- far more debris coming into earth from natural sources

    • @theoonesite
      @theoonesite 3 місяці тому

      Lol, do you have ANY idea how much mass bombards the earth's atmosphere every single second?​@@thomasmorel1447

  • @Sliceofhaupia
    @Sliceofhaupia 3 місяці тому +1

    Hawaiian has starlink and it’s so fast! And free for all guest!

  • @Blade70
    @Blade70 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you, Elon!

  • @juanlopez-qd1yh
    @juanlopez-qd1yh 3 місяці тому

    great video!!

  • @KyaloSengani-ou2hl
    @KyaloSengani-ou2hl 3 місяці тому

    We installed 5kw solar offgrid somewhere in kitui in huge house kplc services 23 km away running freezer washing machine 20 downlighters and and 65inch lg smart tv and topped it up with starling kit it was wow

  • @paulwilson8672
    @paulwilson8672 3 місяці тому

    Great reporting!!! Thanks!!!

  • @henryquach604
    @henryquach604 3 місяці тому

    Finally!!!!! Wifi on board in the year 2024

  • @carlpajela8613
    @carlpajela8613 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank god Hawaiian Airlines has Starlink WiFi service.

  • @efone3553
    @efone3553 3 місяці тому

    I flew jetblue from San Francisco to Paris in feb this year and my wifi was free and consistently fast on all legs of the flight. I tested it a few times and was usually getting around 25 mbps. Jetblue had a pretty good internet experience in my opinion.

  • @b888dms
    @b888dms 3 місяці тому +4

    that was the only silent space we still had... imagine your odd uncle facetiming you on loud speaker just because he's bored... and you're 5 rows ahead... seriously... stop doing this. I like my flights quiet.

  • @TechnoBrown
    @TechnoBrown 3 місяці тому

    Upload is crucial which both carries lack

  • @TheWolfHowling
    @TheWolfHowling 3 місяці тому +2

    4:35 I seem to remember hearing somewhere that Starlink also enables the WiFi on Brightline's Florida trains. However, with passengers having access to their cellular connections, fast WiFi isn't as important

  • @felixjavierarbeloroman
    @felixjavierarbeloroman 3 місяці тому

    I love your tests! All the best from Barcelona 😊

  • @teenytinytoons
    @teenytinytoons 3 місяці тому

    I love how you brought and tested 10 different devices

  • @indianapapi
    @indianapapi 3 місяці тому +8

    She has the best videos on this whole channel!

  • @smallmovezmusic
    @smallmovezmusic 3 місяці тому

    You could put multiple networks on one dish to better utilize the bandwidth. Or use multiple antenna.

  • @wes3002
    @wes3002 3 місяці тому +1

    Watching this from a plane ✌🏻

  • @abcwarbot
    @abcwarbot 3 місяці тому +1

    Elon Musk starlink is the best!

  • @Marcella_VT
    @Marcella_VT 3 місяці тому

    I remember one of my more recent flights on united actually had really good wifi although they blocked basically anything but email and msg. But i had a vpn on my phone so i just connected my steam deck through my phone and i was able to play some multiplayer games on the wifi and watch 1080p video. One of the best flights i had in a long time because of it. It was really funny just joining my friend in game and them being surprised that i could do it on a plane.

  • @IvaJosephine-d6t
    @IvaJosephine-d6t 3 місяці тому

    Emma, you've got the whole package - looks and brains! 🐒

  • @SALTINBANK
    @SALTINBANK 3 місяці тому

    And add attack surface ...

  • @jcnbw01
    @jcnbw01 3 місяці тому

    I used to love traveling for work; it meant hours of true uninterrupted peace and disconnection from work, or anything. Now, though, if you're unlucky enough to be in a work environment where you're expected to be online no matter what... this seems like a nightmare.

  • @timothyndonga4267
    @timothyndonga4267 3 місяці тому

    Best advertisement for Starlink.

  • @Sir_Vantage
    @Sir_Vantage 3 місяці тому +1

    Mandatory headphone policy we be crucial

  • @atulgokuyamaha7
    @atulgokuyamaha7 3 місяці тому

    2:11 That megabit has to be with a small b Mbps Capital B represents MegaByte MB

  • @Halo_King19
    @Halo_King19 3 місяці тому

    Very informative and cool to see. I also know where to put some of my stock money 😂

  • @quarix5503
    @quarix5503 3 місяці тому

    i saw similar speeds on a an american flight a few years ago. not sure if was because no one else was using it or if the connection just was really good that day

  • @malovanyy
    @malovanyy 3 місяці тому

    0:20 Is that a Bose QC35 the pilot is using? Which adapter? My UFlyMike produces a terrible feedback loop when sending!

  • @CorneliusIgnatieff
    @CorneliusIgnatieff 3 місяці тому

    I appreciate you sharing your trading knowledge. Your work is truly valuable to us!

  • @tm7517
    @tm7517 3 місяці тому +18

    Here is a question for Joanna Stern. If you don’t mention the CEO’s of all those companies you brought up in this interesting video, why mention starlink from Elon Musks SpaceX? You mentioned Intelsat by name. Do they have an owner or ceo? You mentioned Delta does Delta have a CEO? You showed and mentioned Panasonic and Viasat as two aviation WiFi tech providers. Do either of those companies have owners or CEO’s? You mentioned JSX airline does JSX have an owner or CEO? You mentioned Hawaiian Air does Hawaiian air have a ceo? You mentioned united does united have a CEO?

    • @DonJuanchito
      @DonJuanchito 3 місяці тому +14

      None of them are as widely known as Elon. Even so, sounds like you’re overthinking much.

    • @duckvs.chipanddale585
      @duckvs.chipanddale585 3 місяці тому

      who cares?

    • @LeeWoods
      @LeeWoods 3 місяці тому +2

      She is from the class of media that worships these founders

    • @DonJuanchito
      @DonJuanchito 3 місяці тому

      @@LeeWoods lol ookay. way to go from observing she mentioned his name to concluding she worships him 💀talk about a non sequitur

    • @adamjagger3263
      @adamjagger3263 3 місяці тому

      Because none of the other ones are being as wild in public as he is. He's basically a celebrity right now, vs the other bean counters that remain unknown to the general public.

  • @danypell2517
    @danypell2517 3 місяці тому

    wow this is amazing. Starlink is the best, I mean, the company launches their own sats lol that'll make the price real good, and loooooots of sats!! lesgooo

  • @GCarnell
    @GCarnell 3 місяці тому

    Love the improvements to come, but already regretting my neighbors who’ll be video-calling, holding meetings, etc. Ugh…

  • @PhotographerSteve
    @PhotographerSteve 3 місяці тому

    Look at the speeds in the lavatory! We all wish people would get out of the laboratory quicker. Anything that would decrease people’s time inside the lavatory, and decrease the wait time for those of us waiting to get into the lavatory is greatly appreciated!
    Oh, that’s not what you meant by wait time in the laboratory?

  • @outforbeer
    @outforbeer 8 днів тому

    I thought starlink congestion problems in big city is greatly reduced with more starlink satellites in orbit

  • @MegaLag
    @MegaLag 3 місяці тому

    Starlink is awesome :D

    • @dauts
      @dauts 3 місяці тому

      Hey mega, I enjoy your unique content. Glad to see you here

    • @MegaLag
      @MegaLag 3 місяці тому

      @@dautsthanks man appreciate that 💙

  • @NC-qc7wd
    @NC-qc7wd 3 місяці тому +20

    A good or two books on a flight will make you feel better connected.

  • @supercadet111
    @supercadet111 3 місяці тому

    IntelSat Advertorial. Curious to fact check if LEO sats (SpaceX Starlink) in high airplane congestion areas really perform worse. No reference for the stat was provided. It was just stated matter of factly.

  • @Goproflying
    @Goproflying 3 місяці тому

    The moment you start allowing hi speed internet in the toilet is when you start realising this wasn’t such a good idea.

  • @doriang85
    @doriang85 Місяць тому

    Expecting fast internet while 30k feet is a bit unrealistic. I appreciate the leaps in tech but unplugging from the internet for a few hours isn’t a bad idea

  • @aerojcordero
    @aerojcordero 3 місяці тому

    Flew on Hawaiian Airlines to Japan with starlink and it was def a game changer. I was able to watch a twitch stream...like whatttt

  • @betterchapter
    @betterchapter 3 місяці тому +3

    I can’t fathom this being just for internet

  • @roykale9141
    @roykale9141 3 місяці тому

    7:59 but its blocked on both screens?!

  • @dagmegetachew3954
    @dagmegetachew3954 3 місяці тому

    geo-sats are 35 thousands away from us lattency is about 500-1000 ms

  • @foxtrot789
    @foxtrot789 3 місяці тому

    The lav should have a faraday cage

  • @bobbrown8661
    @bobbrown8661 3 місяці тому

    I tried United Wifi from Australia to USA via Panasonic just to make some last minute bookings etc, it was awful.

  • @erikm9768
    @erikm9768 3 місяці тому

    5:59. When reviewing a technology, how is it not being available a "down side" ?

  • @digitalhen
    @digitalhen 3 місяці тому

    I got free WiFi with delta on my last transatlantic flight. Amazing really.

  • @sdsd4139
    @sdsd4139 3 місяці тому +1

    How does Intelsat LEO work? I thought Intelsat only launched GEO satellites. Do they connect to another company's LEO satellites? If so, which company's LEO satellites?

    • @adamjagger3263
      @adamjagger3263 3 місяці тому +3

      Intelsat has access to low-earth orbit (LEO) satellites through its partnership with Eutelsat Group's OneWeb constellation

  • @yomajo
    @yomajo 3 місяці тому

    More attention to airlines emissions! Big tech too!

  • @cappybenton
    @cappybenton 3 місяці тому

    Wunderbar

  • @dkras
    @dkras 3 місяці тому

    Starlink is the way

  • @slijkhuis
    @slijkhuis 3 місяці тому

    Now clearly show the starlinks ping. It is about 20-30 ms instead of 120ms. Conclussion; Starlink = king.

  • @JoeKnowsWorst
    @JoeKnowsWorst Місяць тому

    I know it's a valid word but this is the first time in my 44 years I've ever heard someone use the term "lavatory" 😂

  • @116tedy
    @116tedy 3 місяці тому +4

    As someone working in LEO satellite communication project, I am seeing development in LEO to car and smartphone scenarios. Hopefully they can eventually be rolled out for commercial usage.

  • @CrossbowMike
    @CrossbowMike 3 місяці тому

    IDK why they even bother to fight against starlink. Its so much faster. The difference between 124 ping and 24 ping is insane.

  • @GeorgeVCohea
    @GeorgeVCohea 3 місяці тому

    12 year old cellular connections are one thing, but what about 2024 cellular connections vs satellite‽ When there is a ground connection available, wouldn’t it be faster and cheaper, as the plane becomes the _satellite_ from a certain point of view?

  • @karrr1573
    @karrr1573 3 місяці тому

    It's all fun and games, until your company expects you to work midflight during work trips.

  • @captainbirdseye86
    @captainbirdseye86 3 місяці тому +2

    Good god no, as much as I would want fast wifi just to watch anything live or download a movie I forgot to download, there will be so many self entitled passengers who want to have loud phone calls throughout the whole 12 hour flight, day and night. Blocking Facetime and VoIP in general should sort that, please do.

  • @Sohaan.Shamanna
    @Sohaan.Shamanna 3 місяці тому +1

    Doesnt ASTS have similar if not better tech ?

    • @symply_ajay
      @symply_ajay 3 місяці тому

      Calm down, Mr stockholder

  • @svenabend360
    @svenabend360 3 місяці тому

    I like how we are ok with watching an ad lol

  • @krazieman69
    @krazieman69 3 місяці тому

    Well AA and southwest are both trying to screw over JSX, so yeah.

  • @ExaltedMediaInc
    @ExaltedMediaInc 3 місяці тому

    Because it's important to be constantly distracted.

  • @shanemooon
    @shanemooon 3 місяці тому

    Bummed you didn’t actually show the comparison between the US airlines.
    Delta is the greatest. No competition.
    Sure it’s not Starlink or the new Intelsat…but it’s high speed, almost full fleet availability and it being free is game changing.
    No problem streaming with a full flight.

  • @MalcolmleonardChannel
    @MalcolmleonardChannel 3 місяці тому +1

    In 3-5 years we’ll have phone plans with satellite coverage included like 5G is.

  • @edthelazyboy
    @edthelazyboy 3 місяці тому +5

    I think it will be at least another decade before we have cheap, fast WiFi for all passengers on a typically packed flight. The other question is if websites and apps will be even more data hungry by then. Maintaining and upgrading electronics on airlines is very expensive. Everything has to be FAA certified and airlines already run on tight profit margins. So tech installed today stays there for a long time.

    • @alexmerrill8538
      @alexmerrill8538 3 місяці тому

      Go fly a Hawaiian flight. Free starlink for all! It will spread

  • @JDWBS
    @JDWBS 3 місяці тому

    The true test is when you have a full flight. Will the wifi work just as good? That's what they need to really test out.

  • @Gpz0
    @Gpz0 3 місяці тому +18

    What about transmitting flight recorder data? I feel like that should be more important then airlines getting another way to charge me money.

    • @chiroyce
      @chiroyce 3 місяці тому +3

      thats something i havent thought of - surely this should be prioritized? even a 10mbps connection should be enough for streaming text every 3-5s

    • @BenG0
      @BenG0 3 місяці тому +1

      This already happens. Many aircraft are live streaming flight data down to their engineers. Most then send engineers to meet aircraft when they land to sort issues out that pilots sometimes are unaware of

    • @marsspacex6065
      @marsspacex6065 3 місяці тому

      Yep this can be done if the cockpit gets a better connection.

  • @bladeship
    @bladeship 3 місяці тому

    5:58 Does anyone know more about why areas with plane congestion cause worse performance for the LEO satellites but don't also cause worse performance for the GEO satellites? Is it a technology limitation, a physics limitation, something else; what am I missing?

    • @robertnelson5602
      @robertnelson5602 3 місяці тому

      Physical limitation. GEOs are “parked” in position in the sky, and orbit in phase with the Earth. If I have congestion on the US Eastern Seaboard, I can park my satellite there and beam down signal 24/7. A LEO satellite is orbiting much closer to the Earth, and thus orbiting multiple times per day. A LEO would only see the US Eastern Seaboard for a fraction of its orbit, with the majority of its time pointing over the ocean (where there is minimal use). A LEO operator would make use of a large network of satellites so that as one satellite leaves the view of the East Coast, another comes into view of the East Coast, taking over its duties in order to have continuous coverage. A LEO constellation can always increase its capacity, but because you don’t have control over the orbit speed, you can’t pick and choose congested areas to prioritize.

    • @bladeship
      @bladeship 3 місяці тому

      @@robertnelson5602 Thanks for the reply. Everything you said makes sense to me. I guess I assumed that the LEO constellations were large enough already (specifically starlink) where even in congested areas, there would be more capability from the large number of LEO satellites passing by than the capability provided by parked dedicated GEO satellites. Does this then mean that based on current LEO and GEO constellations that is why a hybrid setup is the best option but with time when LEO constellations have expanded to several thousand more units, that those constellations will overtake parked GEO satellites to the point where LEO setups perform better than the hybrid setup? Or am I misunderstanding the capabilities of LEO and GEO satellites so much that even a complete and ridiculously dense LEO constellation still wouldn't be able to perform as good as a dedicated GEO satellite focused on the congested area?

    • @robertnelson5602
      @robertnelson5602 3 місяці тому

      @@bladeship The issue is there is no ability for LEOs to address congested areas without increasing the bandwidth of the entire network (an analogy would be if there was a busy highway interchange in California, the LEO solution would be to increase the number of lanes on every US Highway). So it’s likely that it just comes down to how to efficiently use your bandwidth. A hybrid system where GEO handles boarding/taxiing/takeoff/landing, LEOs handle low latency tasks, and then kick over latency agnostic tasks like video streaming (which makes up something like 65% of all internet traffic) back to the GEOs seems like it will win out in efficiency.

  • @w99mmt
    @w99mmt 3 місяці тому

    Elon is a genius

  • @guslevy3506
    @guslevy3506 2 місяці тому

    “Why are airplane connections so hit or miss? To answer that, we’re going to ask the experts who have dominated airplane connections for a long time - Intelsat.”
    LOL…internet connections have sucked until now because sad companies like Intelsat have been the only game in town. With STARLINK, the old guys are soon to be dust in the wind…

  • @ohnoyuji
    @ohnoyuji 3 місяці тому

    Starlink is also now going onboard. Look out

  • @Hey.405
    @Hey.405 3 місяці тому

    I've got a lot to think about than Wi-Fi when I'm on flight

  • @Prabsin
    @Prabsin 3 місяці тому

    Yeah, they will allow high-speed demanding services like Netflix, etc to First-class and business-class people as a priority. And basic connectivity to the economy class. This means I can still sit peacefully knowing a random guy beside me will not bother me with loud video and audio calls.