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Nietzsche lecture: Thus Spoke Zarathustra
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2015
- A lecture on the topic of Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
Concepts:
Live passionately for a cause beyond conventional traditions in order to expand and test the bounds of what a human can be.
Do not avoid pain
Avoid feeble happiness
The downfall of good & evil (This sheds light on Nietzsche's use of Zoroaster/Zarathustra)
The Three Stages of Development: 1- The Camel: the Burden of Tradition 2- The Lion: Critical of Tradition 3- The Child: Boundless Energy for the New World once tradition is broken. Discovering the world for the first time.
This is underrated to say the least. Will watch again. Best lecture on this book I've seen.
Extremely good summary. I would love to hear another lecture about the part of the geniality of morality essay in which morality is never chosen but rather reflexively selected to suit to be consistent with your forced condition, as the idea is so central to his view of morality. But for the TSZ book this is a superb summary. Maybe some more examples of the incredible metaphors could help the audience to also respect what a piece of “art” the book is also.
Thank you for the non-pretentious, clear and concise presentation.
Best analysis so far..
I’ve NEVER had someone agree with me on the Camel, Lion and Child!!!! I’m pumped now!
Wow this is incredible I will be watching this more than once for sure
Very impressive ,people need to know much about Zarathustra in this age ,you did a great deed
This is so great, so clear, so dense! You are excellent at speaking. Thank you!
beautiful. thanks for touching on that nuance of Nietzsche that most seem eager to overlook.
This is exceptional! Not being a scholar of Nietzsche by any stretch, I've come here looking for insights into one of his great works. There is a lot of information in this lecture and I'm sure that I'll have to listen at least once more.
Clarifying and very well articulated about Nietzsches master work.
Arnold Hvinden/Oslo
Student of Nietzsche
ho ho ho
Totally standing up to a new generation of philosophy and telling something that is very impressive and different from the previous talks I have heard on the subject. A great speaker, speaking with best clarity.
This is very helpful, such a complex work
Very nicely done ...
Thank you for the nice lecture!
The most important concept I ever learned when studying Nietzsche is this. You see, when Socrates, Aristotle, Kant, and most religions built a two-dimensional philosophy, Nietzsche on the other hand created a three-dimensional philosophy or religion. Aristotle and the rest created a list of ideas that could easily be put into a chart or a list of principles. When reading Nietzsche on the other hand, you have to imagine a pool of stars on the ground. From this pool of stars rises and forms a humanoid. This humanoid of stars continues to form until it can run a few steps and then shatters into the puddle of stars again. This happens over and over again for an eternity. You see Nietzsche creates these stars by creating inverted and alternate concepts than the ones we believe in. He reaffirms healthy ideas and then creates their opposites. These create the Rorschach test you personally peer into eventually. It’s the point of the balancing pole of the tightrope walker in Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
“It would have been much more fortunate had the Persians become masters (Herr) of the Greeks, rather than have the Romans of all people [gerade die Römer] assume that role”......Fredrick Nietechze (Sämtliche Werke, VIII, p. 65).
Why?
@@pendejo6466 the values of Persia would permeate greek culture and fuse, rather than roman +greek. Nietzche obviously values Persian concepts more than Roman. What those concepts are the listener must perceive themselves. One might think of his heirarchy of values being Persian > Greek> Roman
@@maghrebforever2012 But Judaism, hence Christianity, is more informed by Persian tropes than Greek or Roman--and we know how Nietzsche felt about the Christians.
Great presentation .
Clear and well said.
Well said, thank you.
This analogy of the cave reminds me oh Suskind's Perfume, where the character goes into the cave and then ascends out of it. He goes in and goes into his mind then comes out and has to become a man again.
painting in the thumbnail?
Brilliant presentation congrats and God Bless
I read this as prep for Jung's Zarathustra Studies. Went right over my head, I'm afraid....
Would this great analyzer consider telling her name or more appropriately indicating her profile for watching her other videos.
@callyharley
Thanks for guiding: you mean I need to ensure paying attention to the lectures from the start. This perhaps implies that there are 12 lectures altogether and I should be hearing from the beginning 0.12.
You would consider appreciating that this all began on the Floating Lodge 4 years ago; but I am recently acquainted with the contribution. Naturally, I would benefit by it fully if I could watch all the videos.
Please guide for I am convinced that Friedrich Nietzsche is an important personality of history's scholarship with leading ideas for the readers.
This, my fellow students in the West, is how a female professor should teach. Not the modern radically feminist version. Greetings from Holland.
this is great. very helpful, thanks. the irreverence in the beginning was difficult for me - couldn't bring myself to keep reading (or dedicate this portion of my life to a survey of non-mystical thinking - my current reading list is a pile up at this point - so many worthy and inspiring works to study - not to mention the fact that a seed of nihilism has the potential to poison the well and cause great suffering and backsliding), but i very much wanted to understand the view point. this presentation is stellar. nice. work. you got me with the camel, lion, child section. i think he's making a reference to the axis of leo and aquarius. the metaphor works well as a transition to the super-man as this axis is like the creative offering (the magnum opus) and the esoteric discipline needed to blue-print it. i will go to the text now. thanks for the bridge in. ps: are you in a building in the 6 pack? i got my first degree (religion/philosophy) at ut austin. old stomping grounds.
What does the cover of that book say?
1000th like :)
What is the name of the lecturer?
callyharley lol, roast!
MAINTENANCE VS PROGRESS IN CULTURE. SEE HEGEL TOO
who is the speaker?
It is in the beginning of the video. Thanks for watching.
Kathleen Higgins
Van Morrison transformation....
this was complicated
luciu constantin, 😂. require a couple listening. Enjoy!
luciu constantin not if you've read the book a few times haha. Keep re-reading (I find the audiobook a life saver for this) and eventually it will sink in!
K8
Religion is not philosophy. The life of Christ is not a depiction of political or philosophical teaching. By its own claims it is an example of conviction of belief. Not a didactic teaching but a drama of the conflict between morality and spirit versus the powers and principalities governing human society.
Reading "Thus Spake Zarathustra" illustrates Nietszche's fictional failure as a dramatist. His protagonist is didactic instead of dramatic, because there is no experience of an actual life lived by conviction. Nietszche was trying to convince others before he convinced himself as to the validity of his vain formulation. A fake disciple, a book disciple, of his own beliefs.
Couldve used a glass of water starting around 8 mins huh..
I can't begin to think how difficult studying Nietzche as a woman must be.
Jonathan Nietzche had bad luck with women. thanks to his sister.
We all do. Its called women being women. They ovulate for 72 hours per month. Short window to get lucky.
Jonathan, oh because Nietzsche wasn't a feminist bitch? Well start with imagining a person smarter and stronger than you, you've surely come across many in your life, manlet.
easy, now
ha ha what's that chest beater doing in here? 2cents, alt-right told you Nietzsche will make you alpha, huh?
i think the overman is both a well developed character, AND a biologically superior creature. are we gonna forget that Nietzsche suggested aristocracies of superior families should form who would contribute to the superior "blood" of the overman?
he added that the upbringing and nourishment of the child is _also_ important, but his main focus is evolutionary.
Zarathustra says that even the wises of you are a mix of plant and ghost, and that man is to overman what ape is to man. these all suggest that Nietzsche's main concern wasn't the upbringing of children, but rather the marriage itself which gives birth to a high-borne aristocrat.
Nah...
Nietzsche has much more credentials than both Jesus and Socrates. For one we know for sure that Nietzsche actually existed in the blood and flesh. Nietzsche's mental faculty collapsed because his powers of wisdom was so explosive
why not read what he wrote vs a guy who wrote about him?
what
To each his/her liking
@@dragndorf9 say what one more time! 😂
@@yonihales9133 waited 2 whole years for u to say that smh
Verbiage
After listening to this video to the end:
this is breaking all codes of behaviour in literature: Nietzsche uses the name Zarathustra to propagate his own philosophy. How about if some one propagates own philosophy using the name Jesus Christ or Buddha or Mohammad etc. If Nietzsche had any substance of his own he would not need Zarathustra as a crutch.
Nietzsche used zarathustra for poetic purposes, to project the feeling of spiritual teaching. Zoroaster is a figure whose name is only remained. So condemning the book as shallow for such weak reason is silly. Instead try to find out real reasons for your grievances
@@wisegirl9009 It is a correction, not a grievance. And the correction is that Zarathustra destination of spiritual path is nowhere related to to what this guy is using his name for. In fact HARDLY anyone knows what Zaharathustra really taught because his followers were being slaughtered on large scale (check out history) and his work had been re-written which a few strategic changes so that the future will not see such persecution. It worked but it also brought about plagiarism. What really remains in the public eye is that the temple fire should never go off, which has the reason embedded in his spirituality. (Oh I used Zaharathustra subconsciously but let it be)
Thus Did Not Speak Zarathustra.
Zarathustra is not a western philosopher or prophet but an Eastern. I know it's difficult for westerners to imagine that anything of consequence came from the East. This is an ignorant way of classification. Instead of admitting to the influence of the East, to call Zarathustra westerner.
Indeed virtually all our western culture came from the east starting with complex societies from 3000 BC and even far later with what we call antiquity a completely minor variant of what was developed to the east (a large region even stretching as far north as around the Black Sea, what we now see as southern Russia) but of course centrally around Iran and Syria. Culture also didn’t evolve *from* there also but remained far more advanced there with continued trade and technological/cultural influence as late as just before the western renaissance as Christianity in the west came to and end.
What an interesting comment. Yes, Greece, when one thinks of it - is it western or eastern? I myself might draw the Persian Empire as the western-most frontier of what I consider Eastern culture. Greece became the origin for the west. In this sense he is eastern-influenced, but almost equally as western! A fascinating congruence of ideas
so was Maani, not Western, during Sassanid dynasty 400+ AD
It initiated monotheism but later got their own corrupted version and called it religion. Zarathustra was not a prophet but a philosopher whos job influenced Plato's republic book and later in Sassanid era became official religion in Iran along with buddhism, manism, christianity and judaism.
East and West depends on where you are standing at any particular time.
It's almost as if the world was spherical, isn't it?
Boring
Zaratushtra was a native of the present day Afghanistan. Please don't call him a Persian Prophet.
Zaorustrianism is not most associated with Afghanistan. It is most associated with Azerbaijan because there, the fire comes out of the ground naturally. Ask, Azerbaijani about it and they know it pretty well. They still celebrate the holidays and understand the gods that they worshipped.
zoroaster the prophet was a persian prophet, i should know because i'm an iranian. and also, in case you didn't know, many afghan "tribes" are considered a sub group of persians. they literally speak an older version of persian language.
At the time of Zarthushtra ( Zoroaster) Afghanistan was a state of great Iran
You Afghans are the worst people in the world. Trying to claim everything that is 100% Iranian.
What did you learn from this video? TELL THE TRUTH
Zarathustra is Iranian and has absolutely nothing to do with Afghanistan.
it is quite naive to give an allegorical character like Zarathustra a year of birth and death
not mentioned the rest of the nonsense...:)