FRESH EVIDENCE: Pastor Eneche and Dr. Abel Damina Ordination saga. Who Ordain Pastor Paul Eneche?
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2024
- In the past few weeks there as been a controversy as to who ordain pastor Paul Eneche. This argument claims that pastor Abel Damina ordain pastor Paul Eneche but the later said it was not him. However, in this new shocking evidence presented in this video has brought out the real person that ordain pastor Paul Eneche.
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IMPORTANT EVIDENCE OUT AGAIN:
The link below show another evidence that Abel Damina and Paul Eneche have contact with each other as explained by the EYEWITNESS apostle Takim. But the video does not say it was Abel Damina that ordain Eneche. Watch the video.
ua-cam.com/video/gkqGes5erZo/v-deo.html
There's difference between ordination and anointing. Dr Damina was emphatic about Dr Eneche's ordination. As Pentecostals anointing services for different purposes are carried out from time to time. But ordination for the work of ministry is done once. I stand corrected if I'm wrong on this.
Chai my brother you are very very correct, oyedepo anointed him but damina ordain him, ordination is once in life but anointing can be done many times, more reason some churches do anointing service every month , Enenche is trying to avoid damina, damina is God sent to pepper them
See a big level of corruption 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so oyedebo is now holy Spirit
Do you know how many people he pours physical anointing on on a yearly basis 😅😅😅
Ordination versus annointing. This brings to the fore, the essence of education in ministry. There must be an ability to isolate research and analyze key words for their true meanings rather than take them at their face value. Even Oyedepo himself dismissed his non-graduate ministers recently.
@@awololaadeola7985Point of corrections, when you're being ordained oil will be poured on you, but being anointed the oil will be put on your forehead with hand
LET'S PRAY FOR OUR FATHERS IN THE FAITH, THEY ARE ALL MISSING IT. THIS ARE PEOPLE WHO ONCE SHARE COMMON KNOWLEDGE NOW FIGHTING IN SUCH AN UNGODLY WAY. IT SPEAKS VOLUMES. LET'S PRAY FOR THEM. THE FIGHT & INSULTS DOESN'T SHOW GODLINESS AT ALL. LOOK AT THE FOWL WORDS THEY USE ON THEMSELVES.
DON'T TAKE SIDE JUST STEP BACK & LOOK AT ALL OF THEM WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU. THE DEVIL IS DANCING WITH THEIR HEARTS, EGO, ETC
GOD HAVE MERCY ON HIS CHILDREN MOSTLY OUR FATHERS OF FAITH IN NIGERIA.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL .
They need to sort it out.
Very true they aren't showing the right path
Frankly speaking, if I did not know God, for myself, if I didn't falll in love with Jesus Christ, if my journey with the Lord was based on any man, I would have abandoned....... Some human beings have done more harm to Christianity than Satan himself.
I'm very embarrassed with a blatant show of inability to stand for truth........
If you're a good student of the penticostal movement & the word in the 90's & Y2K's, you'd know that Abel Damina was well in the scene of the penticostal movement because he was worded & everybody, even the leadership of the penticostal association were willing to associate with him back then, but I think many are trying to stay far away from him now, because of the excesses in his teachings nowadays ni o...
So It's understandable if Paul Eneche is disassociating himself from him now...
& besides, the point he, Abel Damina, was trying to drive at by saying "he ordained Paul Eneche" was that he's been around for a while & even the "so revered" Paul Eneche has once knelt down before him to be anointed by him o, but social media don turn am to something else o....
Another important view.
You are on point sir
What does he gain by pushing the view that he ordained Dr Enenche even when the man says no
It is a valueless argument. Will the ordination grant him eternal rest? No.
If he truly follows the teachings of Jesus Christ, there is no need to argue over anything. God knows the truth.
Christians should do away with the pride of life.
What does he gain by pushing the view that he ordained Dr Enenche even when the man says no
It is a valueless argument. Will the ordination grant him eternal rest? No.
If he truly follows the teachings of Jesus Christ, there is no need to argue over anything. God knows the truth.
Christians should do away with the pride of life.
I do not agree that because Abel Damina has a new revelation of the bible based on his studies, which is a small person in the bible study, it only shows that those who denied the truth are politicians. Lies, charlatans, and most of all, pentecostal mafias.
Its unfortunate what many believe to be Christian. Let us try and come the knowledge of the message of salvation that saves us through the revelation of christ.
Actually, I don't see any reason why at this point we should be dragging who ordain who? I just feel Abel Damina should leave him and let God judge the matter if truly is the one.
@@ogunyemidupe5740 is all this necessary knowledge is profitable to direct.... our rewards of how one lived his or her life on earth .... and the purposeful in souls won
@@ogunyemidupe5740 yes DAD is not holding Paul enenche oh, his statement has always be time will tell, is social media that has been amplifing the matter not Damina
Our pastors are disgracing us. No love. The language is so harsh and full of bitterness.
These pastors should pls stop this tirade.
It's so disgraceful😢.
Christians are tired of this shameful altercation.
My sister you just spoke the real and real truth.
I feel ashamed of all of this. God help us.
Dr Eneche keeps on moving, keep focus sir don't be distracted, arguments of this sort does not edify the church,❤is what the body of Christ wants
You're very correct sister God bless your wisdom
But calling people names like antelope, rats edify your own body of Christ abi? How about calling people mad dog? Be different and think with your own brain.
@@beatriceyilian1106 what is the body of Christ.
Yes! Keep moving on with uncontrollable boiling anger, tongue full of insults and curses
Dr Eneche has failed God and he's of canal pride and transaction
Dr Damina was straight forward to his claim, others are just hiding or lying head on.
Dr Damina child will not let go of the truth.
I still believe the account of Damina
Really
That is your right you don’t have to believe the truth.
We love Damian so much, cuz he has opened our eyes to know the true gospel of Christ, he showed us the difference so we can't thank enough for DAD
You are those who dont want to give but to be given that you look for excuses to hold on to your stinginess and confusion.
because he si teaching you what you have always longed to hear
Jesus should open your eyes not man, I will advise you to study your bible and understand it so that you will not go to hell because of the teachings of man.
They are trying to deny Pastor Able Damina because he is trying to correct their theology. They are building their church NOT the church of Jesus Christ. More power to Pastor Able Damina. God bless Pastor Able Damina 🙏
Dr. Abel Damina speaks the true from the Bible 📖
Continue crying
What truth is he preaching?
Small thing, you will say they are trying to fight him because he is preaching the truth, what truth?
You don't know truth that is why you believe him more than the bible.
@@bolbisumdavidabraham6311 Another hater 🙄. Go to bed bro
@@bolbisumdavidabraham6311abeg go sleep.. mugu...
That is why l like my Church MFM. We don't talk about anyone.
Abel stayed all this whole thing not other pastor now his judging dusin oyekan music is not right there is something wrong with this Abel
PREACHED FOR NOT TO..... This thing is so clear... Dr Enenche would always prefer David Oyedepo but somehow he crossed paths with Dr. Abel Damina and an ordination occurred then Dr. Damina preached for him. David Oyedepo would have done the ordination but maybe at that time they were not that close and Dr. Enenche did not have that level of access to David Oyedepo at the time. Hence another senior minister (Dr. Damina) available did the ordination.
So did Pastor Damian lie?
Thats what you imagined in ur small head.. ive heard from two people who were there (Joshua and paul) and they oposed what damina said..u that was not even born that time is here throwing analysis.. contnue..one day someone will cook a lie against u..watchout
@zikanwajam590noooo
oga Dr Damina Child are you not listening to the video you watch? Eneche met Oyedepo in 1994 while in Jos before moving to Abuja. and Dr damina said he ordained him in 1996 who do you think we should believe? the ordained person telling his story or the person who is saying he ordained Him? oga stop being selfish because you are someones son and you want Eneche to admit because Damina said so? beside is this what we are called for?
Hmm this is not edifying the church at all! These 2 ordained ministers should just concentrate in preaching the gospel. What is ordaining someone got to do with someone living in darkness? To ordain is officially laying of hands, more less like giving authority to someone announcing them that he is now a minister of God, this is different from anointing someone who is already ordained as a minister of God. So let ❤lead, lest we allow satan to hinder and confuse the led (sheep, members).
But let me ask, how 'll this argument help the body of Christ. What is all these.....
Are they having any discernment of the body? These men are mostly lost in religious commerce.
God bless you I like your comment .
Watching this makes me cry😢 for some of our so called ministers. Pls we don't need this at this time.
thank you pastor abel if you did ordained or anointed pastor Paul Enenche excellent , are you not happy how God is using pastor Paul Enenche what is this problems of ordination or no ordination or anointing ,from the video and the statement of pastor Paul Enenche it was bishop Oyedepo that anointed or ordained him in 1994/95 not you pastor Abel bcs you said you anointed ordained him in 1996 while pastor Paul Enenche has already been anointed or ordained in 1994/ by bishop Oyedepo , it's very very clear , more over there is nothing to argue or been bitter about , Pastor Paul Enenche is a very very straight forward man who will never never compromise his life in Christ , ie truth, honesty, sincerity, and the word of God for anything in life ,his watch word "TRUTH" he can never lie and more over his razor brain doesn't not forget anything that happened/happens to him , conclusion pastor Paul Enenche is 100% correct ,he wasn't ordained or anointed by pastor Abel, he was ordained or anointed by bishop Oyedepo the evedence is highly 7up (clear)1994
That Paul Enenche's "ordination" picture looks recent.... and HIS WIFE DOES NOT EVEN LOOK PREGNANT yet he said his wife was heavily pregnant....ABEL DAMINA's own footage is more credible than these.
You are getting it wrong because you are mixing ordination and anointing as if they are the same but they are not the same. Pastor Paul may have received an anointing earlier from Oyedepo but he was ordained by Abel Damina into full-time ministry. Mind you Ordination service is a ceremony that is held once in a lifetime to introduce your ministry to the world, it's more like outdoor you to the world to give you recognition where as anointing is an impartation of power from someone who carries a higher authority, that is a transfer of Grace from a vessel.
Dr. Paul has received many different anointings from many different people which he himself has talked about in his services but nobody has ever ordained him again after Pastor Abel's Ordination.
Know the difference.
You are simply biased.
@@lilrockybusinesswhich anointing? Who told you they have anointing, yahoo men in the pulpit, don’t go and learn how to make your own money , they wine yourself, anointing Nkuoo😂😂😂
Are all those names Dr. Enenche mentioned for Dr. Damina? Lord have mercy ooo
Nobody can discourse Dr Paul Eneche God is with he
Paul Enenche insulting another man of God in the name of preaching and asking his congregants to say amen, so disgusting and detestable
So what is Damina doing to other pastors ???
@@toneroogwuche4675 so madness should rule the church
I think one of Satan's weapon in this last days one of Satan's weapon in this last days is the diversion of Church attention from Christ Jesus to Co-Founders of Ministries.
Some of these GOs have taken the place of Jesus in their churches.
Do not be distracted by the ongoing confusion cos it is written.
Remember, you were told to Look unto Jesus Not Man (Hebrew 12:2).
The bellow verse is the testimony of Peter concerning JESUS and any other person that will call himself a follower of JESUS.
"He did not retaliate when he was insulted, nor threaten revenge when he suffered.
He left his case in the hands of God, who always judges fairly. (1 Peter 2:23)
So so disgusting. Enenche's language is so harsh and terrible. No love at all.
These pastors have no shame.
So unfortunate.
I am so disappointed with Enenche......struggling to deny Damina who was even a trustee member of his church at the beginning.
Na waaa..oo.
So shameful and disgusting and congregation are clapping.
SHAME
SHAME
SHAME.
Casual anointing Service is different from Ordination into Ministry
You will know where the power that fills your comes from
I don't know what yardstick you used for. Bible to arrive At this your casual anointing .....Except that,but not that in this case... Enenche is lying and the truth is not with him..this Enenche wey u dey see today I know how he started in Jos... barrack boys in my block,D5 were some of his instrumentalists.(Stephen and his younger brothers)..The Acapella singers called Dunamis( which includes Ejiro,Sabo,Polite,Shama,etc all of the All Saints Protestant Church,Rukuba Barracks were always going to sing in his programmes in his church in Jos back then.... We know how he started and how Damina was instrumental in his ministry,so became now deny being under Abel Damina...80 thousand seater hall is not what makes one to be better than another,to begin to feel he has arrived oh!
Exactly
Which Power?
If there's anything wrong with their theology Pastor Damina shouldn't go public to correct them. Again who Commissioned Pastor Damina to the office of correcting ordained servant of God's theology
Thank you.... people should see this for once......who is Damina?
People who think like you are the reason for some of these problems.
Why do some of you hate pastor Damina this much??
@@BenardYungongKeep following your Native dr abel damina oooo. As for me, and the ones God gave discernment, we have no business with damina because he is heading to destruction and doom.
Ðr Damina please don't mind all of them. I woul have preferred you don't reply these people. Time will tell. 3:41 3:41
He wants to force fatherhood on himself as if that's the yardstick for maturity in Christ.
Have you seen Rev Chris acting this way, or Pst E.A Adeboye or anyone for seniority or fatherhood online like this.
Even T.B Joshua they all tagged false prophet don't behavior in this manner of Indian helm smoker.
Eventually your small congregation have given you global papa, Abel Damina you didn't ordained Eneche in to ministry you anoints him into your outreach ministry leader and he has dropped your ordination of confusion that got you empty, they also saw the same emptiness in the strange oil you poured on them, then move out if this into something better that took them evidently higher.
So these people really recognised that Dr Abel Damina has known them and recommended them for ordination chai truth must prevail and i really disagree with insults as
Dr Damina was saying the truth
In joss Eneche was preaching in Abel Damina church under Joshua Talena. Before going to Lagos. If Oyedepo anointed him in Joss he was with Abel Damina there. Those narrating all these , I want Eneche to say Damina did not annoint him. He hasn't.
Chaiiii,just imagine.much love for Dr Abel Damina ❤️❤️❤️
Paul eneche is an ashawo pastor,he likes to ascribe his success to every encounter he had with different men of God.when he started his church,it was a rented hall but oyedepo laid foundation of his church which was an open land where nobody was worshipping.
Paul eneche is the problem here.he went to kumuyis church,he also ascribe his success to kumuyis.he was a wandering pastor trying to tap from every grace available.
Na ashawo pastor he be then.
Dr Eneche, please dont allow anyone discourage you. God as ordained you from the womb. Jeremiah 1:5,
God sent samuel to Eli to prepare him , as a substitute.
Eli was long forgotten but God was preparing samuel to replace Eli.
We all know that Jesus Christ was baptised by John the Baptist,so if tomorrow Jesus Christ says NO that it wasn't John the Baptist that baptised him but Simon Peter, should we still trust and believe Jesus Christ?
It's joy to see your son's that do greater things than fathers
Impartation is different from Ordination.
What Bishop Oyedepo did to Rev Paul Enenche was impartation. At that time Rev Paul Enenche might just be a Pastor waiting Ordination.
Ordination is what Pastor Abel Damina said he did to Rev Paul Enenche
Ordination into ministry is different.
Our problem here is eneche,he was moving from one popular pastor then just to get imparted.from all the story on social media,damina is not the original pastor who ordained him as a pastor.eneche is ashamed to say it is the pastor who ordained him as a pastor,he is not a popular pastor.
Our problem here is eneche,he was moving from one popular pastor then just to get imparted.from all the story on social media,damina is not the original pastor who ordained him as a pastor.eneche is ashamed to say it is the pastor who ordained him as a pastor,he is not a popular pastor.
and what did Damina did was is ordination? and which one comes first impartation before ordination or what are you saying? please define and differentiate between the two
So you are saying Paul enschede dose not no who ordained him into ministry.
I believe from the analysis and from a minister's perspective...and the timelines,also from what I have heard, read, listened on line to that Paul Enenche was first anointed by Abel Damina..whether it was a full ORDINATION service is the mystery. But it may seem he was at a cross roads in ministry after that time, and attended an ICMA (International Charismatic Ministers Conference) of Abel Damina in February 1996..where he and Paul Odola were "anointed" for a particular part of ministry. The February ICMA which is now International Covenant Ministers Conference is usually a three day meeting for Ministers organised by Abel Damina Ministries. It is standard practice for Ministers especially young Ministers/ministries who have not yet found their feet in ministry to meet at gathering like this for ministry impartation. ( or pouring of oil). But SOMETHING happened AFTER that, that made both Paul Enechie and Paul Odola to dissociate from Abel Damina ( Joshua Telena too left Abel Damina for a while). It may have to be some ministerial scandal maybe on doctrine or something. Time will tell. Paul Enenchie maybe realised that he had to stick with David Oyedepo AS A SPIRITUAL FATHER...this in my PERSONAL analysis from what I have studied. The truth will come out later for those who are concerned. I just believe it is a generational thing happening in ministry.
I was first baptised in the Catholic church later when I joined pentecostal church,they re baptised me,so who first baptised me? The original person who ordained eneche as a pastor is not in the scene for now,he is not known,he is not a popular pastor.
The Abel Damian's own was not the beginning of his ministry, his ministry started after bishop Oyedepo anointed him..
Anointing is different from ordination. Ordination which is induction to ministry is once while anointing which is top up, recharge, of d Holy Spirit can be multiple times.
So Jesus was ordained into Ministry not anointed, Correct?
This tape owner is ignorant. He conflates ordination with anointing. Dr Abel Damina ordained Paul Enenche
My experience in life has made me to know the word of God is true. Numbers 23:19. God is not a man that will lie. Only God cannot lie. I have seen Pasors telling obvious lies to others and to me. Please let us be careful with vouching for any man.
Confusion is overwhelming Nigeria pastors
Oga, you didn't hear Damina well enough. He didn't say he preached to Enenche but preached for him. When Enenche started his church, according to Damina, he preached for him in his church
English is the problem here. This guy has caused more confusion.
Before you are ordained as a pastor,you must have been a member of the ministry for close to 2years,do local pastor training, preaching in bible study class,local youth conference program, doing local evangelism,preaching in remote branch churches,perfecting your preaching, charismatic potential before you are ordained as a pastor. The real man of God who ordained Paul eneche is not a popular pastor,he is unknown to social media.
Bishop David Oyedepo anointed Pastor Paul.. period
You must be a psychopathic liar! The video here shows Dr. Damina ordained Enenche.
I don't learn anything from knowing who ordained who. What I know which I have in hands is that Dr Damina has revealed many things to me in the scripture that I never knew before now. If it comes to ordination, just like I received water baptism three times at different places so also is ordination. And I started ministry in AAFCJC without ordination and I became ordained in RCCG. Now I have come in contact with Dr Damina. Assumed I received another ordination from him, who will I actually say he ordained me?
There's ordination and there's initiations. When you hear some pastors controversy on who anointed who ?
Purse, and enquire well, find out more if its anointing or initiations. So you may understand better.
In other words, one may have anoited, where as the other initiated. These men are crafty .
Thanks sir... Is he claiming to have ordained him for recognition or what. Damina has lost his bible since before now. When a pastor is looking for men recognition it means the person has lost God's purpose and direction. You can see it through his messages, accusing and condemning other pastors, and also encouraging all kinds of sins and immoralities, claiming to be preaching grace... From which Bible?
He is not looking for recognition. It all started when they began to deny him because of the messages on Tithing and grace. And it doesn't warrant the insults from Dr. Eneche.
Let the truth be spoken Pastor ene che.
What is the morality in this video, are you happy for the misunderstanding? Is that what Jesus Christ ordered us to do
The question should go to Damina.
Pastors should speak the truth even when it hurts them most & stop painting the narrative to suit them as if they are God.
Moreover, there's nothing to be afraid of or ashamed of if you accept the fact. Pride can makes a man to forget his little beginnings & where he started.
What is the essence of Pst. Damina telling the whole world that he ordained pst. Enenche?
For accuracy in accounting history
What's wrong with that? Is ordination a secret? Funny!
What is the essence of Enenche insulting in this manner?
Because so many people are seeing him as somebody who just started preaching yesterday, and called him small boy. So,if they can call Dr Enenche Papa,if assuming there is anything it will add to their salvation which is more important than every other things so far this earth is concerned then, Dr Damina should be addressed as Grandfather when it comes to ministry
@@johnpaulanieto5361 rubbish. why dint he tell the whole world when no one knew Enech why now? did John the Baptist announce that he Baptized Jesus and he ordain Jesus into ministry? Damina just wanted to be glorify by men as the greatest and mighty preacher.
After this whole ordination argument, Paul Enenche would need to give his life to Christ again
Even Abel danina his pride and jealousy is becoming too much.
@BlessingsUgwumba it's not pride or jealous but to prove his point because people like me & you started this issue on social media by saying Damina is lying so he needed to clear the narrative. It is expected that Paul reacts to the issue by confirming Damina's claims or deny it because his name & church was mentioned but he chooses to adopt politician's strategy.
What does he want to achieve by proving a point instead of focusing on the call of God
It's just starting, because bible makes us to understand nations will fight against nations even the false prophet will do same. Don't play revelations is real.
Mr gospel mix and mix as your name goes your analysis is very hollow to say but the least. Paul Enenche should tell us who ORDAINED him and not who poured Oil on him when he was already a Pastor. Maybe he met Jeremiah or Paul on the mountain and he ordained him. If ordained in his mother's womb he should tell us and the matter will be laid to rest. There is a whole world of difference between this two, ORDINATION AND LAYING ON OF HAND as we know it this side of the world.
He lacks understanding like Odola, at least he is trying to make a name for himself like Odola too 😂😂😂
If actually he was ordained in Jos by Bishop Oyedepo in 1994/1995, why will he agree to be ordained again by Damina in 1996? Something is wrong with this narrative.
Eneche is a betrayal and corney guy
This is very true lt was Bishop Oyedepo that Ordained him,l was in a program in his church very long ago in Abuja,in the presence of Bishop Abioye and Oyedepo himself when Dr Enenche narated it
Where you there, stop talking rubbish my friend
When someone said time will tell, is that statement bad? Time will certainly tell.
Ordination is very different from annoiting.. What Paul described is annoiting not ordination. Ordination is elevating someone into positions in the religious body often planned ahead of time in a religious ceremony. Paul’s encounter with Oyedepo doesn’t suggest ordination.
Their is a very big difference between anointing and ordination. Oyedepo meet Paul Enenche by chance and anointed him just like everyone that day in that service. It is never an ordination, which is call to ministry. Oyedepo is big and large, so everyone he comes in contact with by any means now claims, he is their father in ministry forgetting the humble beginnings.
What do you meant by chance?
Don't you understand what Dr Enenche said that he saw when Bishop Oyedepo ordained him in a dream.Spiritual father is revealed through dream.
Damina is saying the truth the other pastors are against him because of his preaching against tithes and offering
what has tithe and offering got to do with this.....if you don't believe in it rest...That's how antichrist will come ND speak against offering y'all will follow
@@enoumoh7642If you like pack your money give someone make him dey use am build mansions and fly abroad while you dey there inside your one room dey pray
You have said it all. They hate truth. Well,let them continue,they will get tired!
@@enoumoh7642 Your comment would have been valid if it could be substantiated with God's word so we will look at who is apparently or similar to antichrist.
Dr Paul Enenche has told the story of how his ordination into ministry took place, yet you can't call Damina a liar because you feel he is your perfect infallible demi-god abi?
What's even all these noise about oil here and there? What's the significance? God knows those that are truly His.
I just tire. If you say you ordain and the person did not agree you just leave him to God rather than granting interview to people and creating issues.
Im telling you
I n Nigeria we have made men our God , disregard Gospel , Nigeria Christians wake up . Abel never die for you, oyedopo didn't , Adeboye has less power to do so, eneche is a mortal , he can't give you internal life.accept jesus Christ , he is able.
Your argument here is so floored. This debate, as presented by both sides, has given the audience a clear picture of what transpired. Leave it to the audience to draw their conclusions. Dr. Abel said he ordained Enenche, and Enenche said he was anointed by Oyedepo. The answer is in Ordination versus Anointing, final full stop.
Your analysis is super fantastic and it has clear the air
That so-called Paul Enenche's "ordination" picture looks recent.... and HIS WIFE DOES NOT EVEN LOOK PREGNANT yet he said his wife was heavily pregnant....ABEL DAMINA's own footage is more credible than these.
Damage control here Damina ordained Eneche simple Finish and Klarr
Something has gone wrong in the Nigerian church why is this even important? I don't understand this Christ wil not tolerate this in his House
no truth in their mouth. fake men of God, only tithes an offering.
There is a great differential between being anointed and being ordained
Lets not get it wrong
There is no way u will.listen to even 5 tapes of a person that u wount see him in the dream .because ur heart earn for him..if God direct u to a person he will also inform the person as well
Preached for Paul Enenche when he started his ministry, not to Paul Enenche.
Thank you. I have listened to it again and it is clear that I misunderstood that line of statement. So I have edited that part out. Thanks.
Just can't understand what all this adds to the gospel of Jesus Christ. We must be careful not to be smart here but rejected on the Lord's judgement day.
This argument is so unnecessary. Yhe hospel is the message not who ordained who?
Its about Jesus so sad they are fighting for titles
Well,the question is did damina also anoint him?...if it's true,Damina also made impact in his life and if Eneche never told Damina that Oyedepo already anointed him,how will Damina know he is not the first to anoint him?
Damina's point is that he ordained paul which is true....Damina never saidbhe gave birth to paul,he said he ordained, meaning he anointed him at a point.This is true and Damina needs nothing from Eneche
Ok. But get this, Ordination into office of a pastor is once and not twice. Two people can not ordain one person into the office a pastor at different time. Their might have be an impartation from Damina to Eneche in the cause of his Ministerial journey but that does not amount to ordination. But when you turn impartation to ordination you are only trying to create a trend of lies. Abel Damina claims has been ordination not impartation.
@@ogunyemidupe5740 the question is what if what Damina did is ordination bcs it could be possible Damina is not aware of the Oyedepo's ordination that's my point...bcs we have seen this happen very well in Nigeria where pastors get ordained more than once even water baptism.. u feel me?..
@@ogunyemidupe5740you are a fool i have see all your coment you are not for the truth
Jesus Revealed and Jesus Glorified! In my life time if you can't preach Jesus you will be afraid of the pulpit. Ministerial success is not large congregation, private jet or plenty of money in the bank but message of Jesus christ.
You're ignorant. Ordination is different from anointing. Dr Abel Damina ordained Paul Enenche. Paul Enenche should stop whining about what everyone knows to be the truth.
Were you there?😏😏
How did you know that is true were is the evidence
Just on Ordination;A contention brings up; Where is the Church going? These so called fathers of Faith are misleading the Church.
No.Abel Damina's part with Paul Enenche crossed while in Jos before his movement to Abuja.
and was it in Jos he was ordained as claimed?
From Dr Paul's
Video, he didn't say anything about ordination. Rather he talked about the claim of Fatherhood.
Meanwhile anointing and ordination can be over and over again. King David was anointed and ordained many times.
Now the person that was anointed will know which anointing worked more in your life.
But are these arguments important? This amounts to carnality desiring to glory in self. So can ministers stop? Let's preach Jesus and not ourselves
A pregnant woman might pass through many men, but knows the true father of her baby. If pastor Abel Damina claims he ordained Dr paul enenche and that ordination made enenche what he is today, personally i will disagree with Abel Damina because there is no similarity in anything and in any way between this two people ,as far as ministry is concern. But between Dr pastor paul enenche and Bishop David Oyedepo there are many similarities. Why should pastor Abel be forcing himself i ordained him, i ordained him, ok why are the others Abel Damina ordained why are they also not at the same level of impact?. Abeg you people should allow somebody to rest.
Hmm ! I sense the spirit of confusion, pride of knowledge and jealousy in this matter. Why would a Gospel minister who had all along believed and collected tithe for his own ministry suddenly woke up to be the voice speaking against clear teaching of the bible. No where in the New Testament did Christ or the Apostle forbade tithing or generous giving. This goes beyond ordinary. The spirit behind this is surely 100%. anti-Christ. God is not an author of confusion.
We should stop instigating trouble in the body of Christ
I am always disappointed when supposedly minister of the gospel prove success by material possession.
How is that my problem? Dr Abel Damina is no longer in the same camp with them so they want to denied him period. God bless Dr Abel Damina
Pure manipulation. Eneche met Abel Damina before he got married and met Oyedepo after wedding. Which one came first, before wedding or after wedding?
The point Dr Damina is making is very clear and Paul Odola made quite clear. They all deviated from the the gospel all those early days but Dr Damina turned around to the truth of the gospel. These other people who were with him don't want to preach the true message and Dr Damina is lashing them for refusing to repent with him as his sons. But these other pastors who are either talking rhetorics or lying bcos they want to keep preaching that message that helps them extort their congregations using the law of Moses. They will continue to disagree with Damina bcos their messages are opposing to each other especially as Damina is no longer in their train. Use your head.
You are a great demonic liar
why will he be lashing them to repent with him as you put it. when you where been preached upon to repent did they force you? was it not the holy spirit who convince you to repent? when Paul in the bible repent was it the peaching of a man or the spirit of God? your own is to preach and let the Holy spirit convert them to the repentance. Abel Damina who preached for Him to repent as you mention?
CALLING SOMEONE A FATHER IN THE MINISTRY' IS NOT BY AGE;
Why is it a problem who ordained paul eneche.he never say that no matter who ordain him but he was ordained
Una go tire Dr Damina is here to stay.
Odola is a lier
Its very clear God used bishop David oyedepo to ordain Paul eneche very clear and open
Paul Enenche is a terrible liar
Make una use una sense. What will Pastor Enenche gain by denying that Dr. Abel Damina ordained him. Is there any sense in it.
When a river forget where it flow from it will dried if he was the one that ordained Dr eneche n now his fight his elder den God will reply dem all
So next time Dr Paul Enenche disagree with Oyedepo they will say he never anointed him because he was already in the ministry..... according to Paul Odola statement chaaaiiiii 😂😂😂😂
This man isn't talking about who Anointed who but, he is talking about ordination, A child can't call a Nany that takes care of him or her a baby, it not normal.
With all the evidence. People still trying to distinguish ordination and anointing
While the country burns these merchandise in disguise of pastors are busy debating on who anointed who,It's very unfortunate.
Dr Abel is saying the truth he once like them stealing from worshippers but now he repented so his saying the truth
i know you people dont want to hear the truth of the gospel. this is not the church of Christ but a show of who you like and what you are made up of. Did Jesus destroyed or divide the church? why are we talking on this irrelevant things in the body of christ.
But Odola is not a true pastor deceiver and corrupt very nonsensical man of god you lying on social media when the record is well kept
I love Abel Damina he speaks the facts about everything
Anybody one that's anoint anybody is them that know......u anoint me and I said u re not the one that anoint me is it by force...i said anoint person anointed me....... I will tell you who anoint me ....not u to tell me who anoint me
Orrrrrr I wonder o
Are we politicians or children of God, we're lost our destination who is Jesus
Imagine how Enenche is calling someone "Mad" because the person said he ordained him. I thought Bible daid that we should not curse, and not fight back, let alone fighting dirty.
Moreover, Abel Damina has bought out some evidence, and claims to have more evidence, but Enenche has not brought any evidence apart from to deny and abuse Damina.
Actually that statement of Pastor Eneche is not really good. But yet all the evidence does not Justify that he ordain him into ministry.
The problem is not who ordained but was he ordained.
Well success is a friend to many people while failure is bastard.
Just rest and be at peace with your self Dr. Damina
What do we get on this??