He did, thankfully. I interviewed Greg Keyes, and he says that MUTO Prime still exists in the Monsterverse, and him being the writer of The Novelization Of KOTM, GVK, And GXK, which makes his statements more important then those of the LOM show, still great video though! And Great VIA Effects!
I believe the incident with Muto Prime still happened in broad strokes. It's the same way Lee Shaw is still canon even though his first appearance in Godzilla Awakening is no longer acknowledged. At the very least something occurred off screen that caused Godzilla's dorsal fins to change shape.
Yeah, as someone who is also Star Wars fan, I can tell you, the longer the Monsterverse goes on, the more plot contradictions there will be between movies, shows, and comics. Its pretty much inevitable.
-Legendary themselves acknowledged her as canon during the MV Watchalong in 2020. -Dagon exists, and there’s a flat out understanding of what happened to him in Aftershock: -the MUTO Prime is mentioned in the KOTM novelization. -the show is set in 2015, which is nearly a year after Aftershock, and there isn’t anything contradicting the timeline. -the director of the show stated that the show is its own thing and it “diverged” from the movies. So the show is soft canon in reality. -in terms of the canon of the MUTO Prime not being mentioned, it’s easy: Serizawa and the higher ups kept the MUTO Prime classified from the others who are under them. P.S. in terms of Awakening and Shinomura, the Shinomura was mentioned in the KOTM novel, and the show itself has inconsistencies (as it tried to act like Godzilla was hit with ONE nuke while the G14 film and special feature Operation: Lucky Dragon flat out showed that he was hit by SEVERAL at once, and KSI also mentioned multiple “tests”).
@@finleydoyle4913 Godzilla: Awakening isn’t canon, but Shinomura is because it was mentioned in KOTM novel, it may have been killed in a separate nuclear blast around the time of Castle Bravo test on Godzilla.
I would agree if it wasn't for Maddie saying in Aftershock that she saw Emma on the news after the Prime was killed and Maddie was aware of what happened
Aftershock is still canon tough, but since every place where Muto prime and Godzilla fought and did some shit weren’t that much populated, the fatality of humans who died weren’t that high which means it wasn’t that big disaster like in 2014 which why that one women in the series didn’t mentioned Godzilla aftershock as an emergency event or so
@@loischlul I do agree that it's still canon but I'm just debunking what they're saying. Also, Goji Center is pretty unreliable a lot of the time. This doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about but I'm still mentioning it. That new Pacific Rim Size Comparison video that they made is full of misinformation. Wrong kaiju names, wrong heights, stolen fan art, etc
In king of the monsters he already evolved when he first appeared in that movie but the monarch series is a prequel to that movie.. it showed how he evolved
I would think this however we also see Godzilla has smaller dorsal plates during the finale fight since they were regrowing, also they say after the prime death
I honestly still consider the MUTO prime to be a canon creature, as it shows a connection to the mutos in 2014, as well as the skeletal remains of one of Godzilla's own kind Daegon, and the change in Godzilla's dorsal plates. Not to mention that even if the Monarch legacy of monsters series doesn't acknowledge the events of Godzilla aftershock, it doesn't mean that the events didn't happen, especially since the series actually contradicted what happened to Godzilla during the attempt to destroy him during 1954.
Fr we seen the new species of muto in the show so prime should be in it but they should put it in the last season if they then even we had titamac and other creatures that destroyed zilla
Muto Prime is still canon. They just didn't show the battle since that would mean they would need to have a larger budget to show the fight and all the events that happen in the book.
Only the comic Godzilla Awakening stopped being Canon, because before it was decanonized it already had inconsistencies and contradictions with the Lore of the Monsterverse, however the rest of the comics continue to be part of the history of this universe, well remember that the fight that Godzilla had with the Muto Prime occurred shortly after the battle in San Francisco, that is, in 2014 and the series is set in 2015 and already in the last moments of the final chapter in 2017.
Im holding out hope that the characters just don't keep up with Godzilla, cause back then its only Monarch doing the observation and its not become as public as say GXK where Titans are more active than ever
Just to correct the reason why Muto Prime has not been mentioned nor shown in the MV films and tv series is because the events of aftershock was already explained and took months after G-day in 2014 (a year before legacy of monsters) where it was a secret side mission led by emma Russell, While the characters like tim and Verdugo from legacy of monsters were part of a different division that detects, study, and investigate the radiation levels in case of a titan presence or emergence. So clearly they weren't part of that story nor assigned for that mission and it wouldnt make sense for them to mention anything about the events of Aftershock if they weren't there 😂. Just because muto prime hasnt been shown nor mentioned in both series and films doesn't mean that the character is retconned if the studios are not trying to contradict anything that happened in the comic.
@@goldenhate6649 that only depends on who you hire for the series that gives a damn or not, legendary actually acknowledge their source material such as the comics, they only hired writers who didnt read the comics nor paid attention to the MV lore while adding random characters along with details that dont add up but still doesn't contradict the other comics except for awakening. but like I said just because muto prime isn't mentioned by the characters (who were literally not part of the events of aftershock nor part of the same group as emma and serizawa) doesn't mean she's non canon 😂.
Can you plwase do a similar video about Shinomura? I know they aren't as important as a Titan like Muto Prime but they're one of my favorite Monsterverse original kaiju.
I always felt like the comics, especially the Aftershock, were almost disregarded by the movies because there was almost no reference to them. Sometimes, not talking about them makes sense like BoK being in the 90s and Kong only having one movie, but Aftershock had so many crazy events that it never made sense for it not to be recognized entirely in KotM or KvG. I hope it isn't canon, and going forward, Legendary doesn't make this same mistake for their canon.
What I also didn't notice, is any mention of the monster that godzilla was chasing, which was also destroyed by the castle bravo nuke. The Shinomura. As the nuke was meant to destroy both of them, but only godzilla remained. But in the series, this monster was never mentioned, which confused me a lot.
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We got to remember that the Monsterverse is no stranger for making graphic novel Titans become non-existent canon with the rest of the installments. Godzilla: Awakening is a great example of this with Shinomura, an awesome monster that unfortunately isn't canon anymore and I would even stretch it by calling the creature loose canon as there's no way to implement it into the Monsterverse without causing massive plotholes. So let's hold back our disappointment if it turns out Muto Prime isn't canon anymore, which I hope isn't the case all the same. She's an awesome monster that fits within the lore perfectly and it would be a shame to just throw her out into the trash basket of non canon beasts. Also since Godzilla: Aftershock is set just a few months after the events of G14, it could very well be possible that the characters in M:LoM are bunching up both events as one big time in history. Similar to how we in the real world associate both WW1 and WW2 as the "War Worlds" so it can be easier to identify the events in quick succession. I might be stretching it right there but it's a possibility nonetheless.
It's so weird people latched onto that VFX interview regarding the plates, like did you expect random animator to go "You see, the plates changed because they broke during a fight that happened in a tie-in comic book released five years ago" when talking to whatever news outlet it was?
I’ll be hyped if there’s Monarch: Legacy of Monsters Season 2. Hopefully they mention or showcase any signs of Muto Prime Emergence even MLOM was already surpassed Godzilla Awakening because Muto Prime is extremely powerful kaiju, human civilization will not forget about her intense havoc that can end humanity. This is also an opinion. There’s still time that Monarch: Legacy of Monsters Season 2 will also launch soon so… we’ll gonna find out.
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Watching your videos always make me happy. My mother just passed away to a heart attack. Watching your content about monsterverse titans helps me a lot
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I just can’t wait for the MUTO Prime vs King Ghidorah face off!! The dragon beetle vs the hydra!! 🐲 It’s like a faceoff between a titan that causes air related disasters like tornadoes against a titan that causes earth related disasters like earthquakes.
Another way this could fix it is if Godzilla just evolved his spins between 2014 and Monarch and then in season two that’s when it happens, they can kind of switch some things around a little bit and some things wouldn’t make sense but it would still have it in there and it would still be canon
hey goji center, i have an idea, maybe you could try to find out who would win, king titan or Godzilla, i don't know if you should use the lore version though because he's about 260 meters tall.
I feel like godzilla’s dorsals changing at the correct time is enough to canonize aftershock, just like the skull island anime seems to hint that the survivor village that the kracken wipes out is the monarch agents from birth of kong that stayed on the island, seems like the only non canon or soft canon comic is awakening I think it’s called, the one accompanying 2014
State the year properly like seriously. It's 2000 for a reason. Not 20:14 and such. But meh, if you just want to mention the digital clock so often instead of the years then it's your problem
The problem is trying to get a consistent timeline in modern Hollywood. Writers ignore what's been done before for their own egos all the time. It's also incredibly common that they're ignorant of the source material, because they don't care to put in the work 🤦
Than I want to ask why is Dagon the one that everybody keeps mentioning about who fought with mute prime if the event of muto prime vs Godzilla happened in the aftershock of Godzilla vs muto
The way i think its Canon because godzilla aftershock did happen but since all of the emerging activities from the kaijus made monarch hide the evidence like what they did to male muto thay said it was an "earthquake"
Hay goji could you please make a video to see who would win in a fight between Godzilla and the adult skullcrawler please.I would really appreciate it if you did.please and thank you
0:37 don't forget, alternate versions/realities. One muto exists while the other dosen't. Maybe the comic version only. Also, writer's interpretation. One made the comics, while other made the movies/shows, but I doubt they keep tabs on each other. (Least to a certain degree)
the producers,in an interview,said that they acknowledged there was an event that shattered Godzilla's dorsals,so they must know of Aftershock and the Prime incident,why do you think they chose to set the series in 2015 instead of 2014? To not be conflicting and to not directly address the comic,to not touch its canonicity. And the Monarch members not mentioning the emergences of the Prime can be easily explained: it's already a miracle if some regular audience watched this series,which is also on a pretty obscure and disregarded platform,why mention something they'd have no idea of? Heck,not even all of the fans have read the comics! But,in general,y'all need to stop making such a big fuss about comics decanonization,it happens everywhere now,written lore is canon until live-action says otherwise,I'm not saying it's right,I'm not saying they should do it,but it's a reality and you have to deal with it,pointing it out or whining about it won't change shit
I really dislike when movies don't see and reference book, novel, and cartoons. Only treat the movies as canon, I hate it when that happen. I have the book Godzilla: Aftershock and I really enjoyed it.
Tbh they were never gonna keep up with the comics in the films. No way are they gonna factor in these major events that only a tiny percentage of the audience will be aware of.
I think this was an issue that Monarch Legacy of Monsters was being recorded when the comic was being made and most likely started its production before the comic so this may have been missed
I was thinking that the reason we see Godzilla was underground, was because he was cooling off his dorsal plates after they were badly shattered and on fire. So he burrowed underground to cool off his dorsal plates, while taking a nice nap in the process. So, I was really hoping that the main group would AT LEAST point out his newer looking and much bigger dorsal plates. But sadly, they never did.
Love your videos as usual! Can we get a video about would happen if white spikes from tomorrow war invaded Skull Island? Or if white spikes invaded attack on titan during the rumbling?
You talk about the dorsal plates and how they evolved from 2014 to the show. Good question that I did not notice, do his plates look preevolved in the flashbacks of Monarch LOM? If they don’t you can write off that. You had one clip I noticed where he was in the water swimming and that was from an episode back with the Drs and Army guy.
It was the biggest thing that bugged me about Monarch Legacy of Monsters On top of the fact the writing for the mystery plot is terrible, there isn't any reveals that lead back to their findings at all they just get sidetracked again and again until they accidentally find the grandma still alive. And there's barely anything to discover about the Titans, the only aspect I like was the first contacts with Godzilla and how he basically came back to save them, but those are super brief
First season should have definitely been based on Godzilla and MUTO Prime fighting after the events of 2014, rather than what we got, that should have been season 2.
The moment muto prime is non canon, every feat that everyone use of mv godzilla lifting muto is now gone meaning all the other godzillas are stronger off films
I just want to point out. It's not like he actually lifted it the same way heisei lifted ghidorah or mechagodzilla. No he popped a squat and rolled prime on his back and while still squatting he used a nuclear pulse. You a normal human can do the same thing with someone much larger than you. It's no different then when godzilla shoved ghidorah and people saying he threw him. He did not. If you grab someone in a fight and use your body weight to shove them a little does that mean you threw them? No. People blow these things out of proportion and that's why powerscalers are stupid losers who latch onto anything and blow it up with fanon numbers
They need to fix this. There's a chance to keep the comics canon. Just because it hasn't been mentioned, it doesn’t mean it never existed. They have time.
I think we're overlooking another titan being render non canon by Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, and that's Shinomura. That titan was featured in the prequel comic to the 2014 Godzilla movie, though that was kina non canon because the fact the movie showed nothing of the titan, let alone the whole Lucky Dragon event was rectonned in the show as well.
nice video goji center, well i have a video request cuz alot of people have been arguing from who would win between full power godzilla or mechagodzilla
Is it just me, or does Muto Prime give off strong Megalon vibes, I mean think about, both are large brown bug like kaiju with incredible burrowing abilities, now I'm not saying he was inspired by or based on Megalon 150%, I just think it's interesting how similar they seem at a glance, and honestly it makes me want to see the Muto Prime return
Would love to see the mutos return. Maybe even see a prime again, or at least see the fight between prime and Godzilla onscreen rather than just from the comic.
If Muto Prime is ultimately rendered non canon, there's still one plausible explanation for Godzilla's change in dorsal plates. At the end of Godzilla 2014, the military attempted to detonate a nuke to kill Godzilla and the Mutos. While the denotation occurred miles away, it's possible Godzilla went to the denotation site to absorb the remaining radiation. This energy would allow Godzilla to grow, explaining his larger size at the beginning of KOTM (before he took the smaller nuke to the face). Just a possibility
I'm going to be honest, after finishing watching the series I still believe that only the comic Godzilla Awakening stopped being Canon, because before the same series came out the comic already showed many inconsistencies and contradictions with the story of the Monsterverse and it was very obviously that it should not belong to the chronology of the Monsterverse, however the rest of the comics continue to be part of the history of this universe, since it must be taken into account that the fight that Godzilla had with Muto Prime, occurred months later of the battle in San Francisco that is, in 2014 and the series is set from 2015 to 2017, also if Godzilla aftershock was not canon then where would the past of the main characters of KOM be told before the movie, the change of the Godzilla's dorsal plates, Dagon's past, the cause of the birth of the Mutos in 2014, and most importantly, where the hell would they get the origin of the creation of the ORCA device, and in case they didn't know, the places in where Godzilla and Muto Prime faced each other, they were isolated, there were almost no people, they were very far from civilization, including the sea and the mountains, and finally a simple visual effects and CGI worker does not have the right or the power to change the chronology of a story and invent that two weak Mutos and a giant building broke Godzilla's old dorsal plates, or say that they grew just because, since that would be begging and fucking stupidity
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This is not the first time that the Monarch show ignored the events from the graphic novels. They also ignored Awakenings completely as well. It makes me believe that whoever is doing the show has never once read any of the graphic novels which is canon material. I am disappointed about this seeing how the show is completely skipping over incredibly vital Monsterverse mythology for the sake of what; time compliance?, production value?, or just resource material ignorance?
Graphic novel tie-ins are beta canon at best. Alpha canon typically does not mention events that take place in beta canon. 5:30 bottom right should read 2015, not 2019.
He did, thankfully. I interviewed Greg Keyes, and he says that MUTO Prime still exists in the Monsterverse, and him being the writer of The Novelization Of KOTM, GVK, And GXK, which makes his statements more important then those of the LOM show, still great video though! And Great VIA Effects!
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I believe the incident with Muto Prime still happened in broad strokes. It's the same way Lee Shaw is still canon even though his first appearance in Godzilla Awakening is no longer acknowledged. At the very least something occurred off screen that caused Godzilla's dorsal fins to change shape.
Godzilla Awakening is official non canon now
nah it's still canon, just at the state of hyper soft canon at this point
Yeah, as someone who is also Star Wars fan, I can tell you, the longer the Monsterverse goes on, the more plot contradictions there will be between movies, shows, and comics. Its pretty much inevitable.
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-Legendary themselves acknowledged her as canon during the MV Watchalong in 2020.
-Dagon exists, and there’s a flat out understanding of what happened to him in Aftershock:
-the MUTO Prime is mentioned in the KOTM novelization.
-the show is set in 2015, which is nearly a year after Aftershock, and there isn’t anything contradicting the timeline.
-the director of the show stated that the show is its own thing and it “diverged” from the movies. So the show is soft canon in reality.
-in terms of the canon of the MUTO Prime not being mentioned, it’s easy: Serizawa and the higher ups kept the MUTO Prime classified from the others who are under them.
P.S. in terms of Awakening and Shinomura, the Shinomura was mentioned in the KOTM novel, and the show itself has inconsistencies (as it tried to act like Godzilla was hit with ONE nuke while the G14 film and special feature Operation: Lucky Dragon flat out showed that he was hit by SEVERAL at once, and KSI also mentioned multiple “tests”).
So Monarch Legacy is like an alternate timeline with the major stuff still the same but the minor stuffs in between are changed
@@HeyYouFromThatGamesoft canon at best. Not to mention Legendary themselves acknowledged Awakening AND Aftershock as canon.
@@mjjones2241 thank you. Can I have some links
@@HeyYouFromThatGame not an alternative reality
@@finleydoyle4913 Godzilla: Awakening isn’t canon, but Shinomura is because it was mentioned in KOTM novel, it may have been killed in a separate nuclear blast around the time of Castle Bravo test on Godzilla.
Muto prime deserves a movie about him not a comic.
Just so you know
Muto Prime is female
she and shes dead
Muto prime is a female
does it matter if someone calls prime a male? No. Stop correcting genders, its 2024 shut up kids. Its a titan
@@reggielacey2235 So canonical then?
I would agree if it wasn't for Maddie saying in Aftershock that she saw Emma on the news after the Prime was killed and Maddie was aware of what happened
Aftershock is still canon tough, but since every place where Muto prime and Godzilla fought and did some shit weren’t that much populated, the fatality of humans who died weren’t that high which means it wasn’t that big disaster like in 2014 which why that one women in the series didn’t mentioned Godzilla aftershock as an emergency event or so
@@loischlul I do agree that it's still canon but I'm just debunking what they're saying. Also, Goji Center is pretty unreliable a lot of the time. This doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about but I'm still mentioning it. That new Pacific Rim Size Comparison video that they made is full of misinformation. Wrong kaiju names, wrong heights, stolen fan art, etc
Nice analysis and it's surprising nobody in Monarch: Legacy of Monsters seem to notice that Godzilla's dorsal plates looked different when he awoke.
In king of the monsters he already evolved when he first appeared in that movie but the monarch series is a prequel to that movie.. it showed how he evolved
@@rikay4k Yeah the fight with Muto Prime apparently also happened in 2014, so not too long after he succeeded in defeating its last two children
I would think this however we also see Godzilla has smaller dorsal plates during the finale fight since they were regrowing, also they say after the prime death
I honestly still consider the MUTO prime to be a canon creature, as it shows a connection to the mutos in 2014, as well as the skeletal remains of one of Godzilla's own kind Daegon, and the change in Godzilla's dorsal plates. Not to mention that even if the Monarch legacy of monsters series doesn't acknowledge the events of Godzilla aftershock, it doesn't mean that the events didn't happen, especially since the series actually contradicted what happened to Godzilla during the attempt to destroy him during 1954.
Fr we seen the new species of muto in the show so prime should be in it but they should put it in the last season if they then even we had titamac and other creatures that destroyed zilla
Goji center videos are awesome, Muto Prime needs a movie or season.
Glad you panned down there at 2:25. Thought I was on another tube.
Muto Prime is still canon. They just didn't show the battle since that would mean they would need to have a larger budget to show the fight and all the events that happen in the book.
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Only the comic Godzilla Awakening stopped being Canon, because before it was decanonized it already had inconsistencies and contradictions with the Lore of the Monsterverse, however the rest of the comics continue to be part of the history of this universe, well remember that the fight that Godzilla had with the Muto Prime occurred shortly after the battle in San Francisco, that is, in 2014 and the series is set in 2015 and already in the last moments of the final chapter in 2017.
Im holding out hope that the characters just don't keep up with Godzilla, cause back then its only Monarch doing the observation and its not become as public as say GXK where Titans are more active than ever
Just to correct the reason why Muto Prime has not been mentioned nor shown in the MV films and tv series is because the events of aftershock was already explained and took months after G-day in 2014 (a year before legacy of monsters) where it was a secret side mission led by emma Russell,
While the characters like tim and Verdugo from legacy of monsters were part of a different division that detects, study, and investigate the radiation levels in case of a titan presence or emergence.
So clearly they weren't part of that story nor assigned for that mission and it wouldnt make sense for them to mention anything about the events of Aftershock if they weren't there 😂.
Just because muto prime hasnt been shown nor mentioned in both series and films doesn't mean that the character is retconned if the studios are not trying to contradict anything that happened in the comic.
Or the more simple explanation: As with all tv shows that try to interact with movies, the script writers don't give a damn about the source material.
@@goldenhate6649 that only depends on who you hire for the series that gives a damn or not, legendary actually acknowledge their source material such as the comics, they only hired writers who didnt read the comics nor paid attention to the MV lore while adding random characters along with details that dont add up but still doesn't contradict the other comics except for awakening.
but like I said just because muto prime isn't mentioned by the characters (who were literally not part of the events of aftershock nor part of the same group as emma and serizawa) doesn't mean she's non canon 😂.
Can you plwase do a similar video about Shinomura? I know they aren't as important as a Titan like Muto Prime but they're one of my favorite Monsterverse original kaiju.
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I wish we could’ve seen MUTO Prime on the screen wether in a show or a movie, he seems like it would’ve been a badass fight to see
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I always felt like the comics, especially the Aftershock, were almost disregarded by the movies because there was almost no reference to them. Sometimes, not talking about them makes sense like BoK being in the 90s and Kong only having one movie, but Aftershock had so many crazy events that it never made sense for it not to be recognized entirely in KotM or KvG. I hope it isn't canon, and going forward, Legendary doesn't make this same mistake for their canon.
What I also didn't notice, is any mention of the monster that godzilla was chasing, which was also destroyed by the castle bravo nuke. The Shinomura.
As the nuke was meant to destroy both of them, but only godzilla remained. But in the series, this monster was never mentioned, which confused me a lot.
@@UniqueZboysuch a shame, I really liked the Shinomura
@@UniqueZboy that explains it then.
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We got to remember that the Monsterverse is no stranger for making graphic novel Titans become non-existent canon with the rest of the installments. Godzilla: Awakening is a great example of this with Shinomura, an awesome monster that unfortunately isn't canon anymore and I would even stretch it by calling the creature loose canon as there's no way to implement it into the Monsterverse without causing massive plotholes. So let's hold back our disappointment if it turns out Muto Prime isn't canon anymore, which I hope isn't the case all the same. She's an awesome monster that fits within the lore perfectly and it would be a shame to just throw her out into the trash basket of non canon beasts.
Also since Godzilla: Aftershock is set just a few months after the events of G14, it could very well be possible that the characters in M:LoM are bunching up both events as one big time in history. Similar to how we in the real world associate both WW1 and WW2 as the "War Worlds" so it can be easier to identify the events in quick succession. I might be stretching it right there but it's a possibility nonetheless.
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It's so weird people latched onto that VFX interview regarding the plates, like did you expect random animator to go "You see, the plates changed because they broke during a fight that happened in a tie-in comic book released five years ago" when talking to whatever news outlet it was?
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How exactly would a fight between shin Godzilla and the mega Kaiju from Pacific rim go down?
Still would be a slaughter since Godzilla still weighs about 8 times more than the mega kajiu
Anything from pacific is weak compared to Godzilla verse of kajiu
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I’ll be hyped if there’s Monarch: Legacy of Monsters Season 2. Hopefully they mention or showcase any signs of Muto Prime Emergence even MLOM was already surpassed Godzilla Awakening because Muto Prime is extremely powerful kaiju, human civilization will not forget about her intense havoc that can end humanity. This is also an opinion. There’s still time that Monarch: Legacy of Monsters Season 2 will also launch soon so… we’ll gonna find out.
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Hollywood writers are getting lazy, waving off continuity errors with a "meh"
They don't understand how much this drives sci-fi lore nerds INSANE....
Wow I don’t know how or where you get this information but it’s good
I just can’t wait for the MUTO Prime vs King Ghidorah face off!! The dragon beetle vs the hydra!! 🐲 It’s like a faceoff between a titan that causes air related disasters like tornadoes against a titan that causes earth related disasters like earthquakes.
Nah, destoroyah vs monster zero
@@infantkicker6969not fair at all destroya wins seen monster zero can easily get distracted in battle and land and air battle goes to destroya
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@@infantkicker6969 if you couldn’t read it understandable
Uhh what happened I swear I already watched this like 2 hours ago did it get re-uploaded?
That’s what I’m saying
Yeah I think
You are doing God's work. I hope the show runners see this
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Indeed
Yep
I saw the original
Why did it get re-uploaded?
This is a reupload?
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Another way this could fix it is if Godzilla just evolved his spins between 2014 and Monarch and then in season two that’s when it happens, they can kind of switch some things around a little bit and some things wouldn’t make sense but it would still have it in there and it would still be canon
hey goji center, i have an idea, maybe you could try to find out who would win, king titan or Godzilla, i don't know if you should use the lore version though because he's about 260 meters tall.
That sounds real cool, although I’m pretty sure king Titan would have a massive melee advantage-
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I look forward to the post mortem analysis of 'Godzilla: Awakening' now that it's non canon.
Yes I agree totally forgot it when showing comics.
I feel like godzilla’s dorsals changing at the correct time is enough to canonize aftershock, just like the skull island anime seems to hint that the survivor village that the kracken wipes out is the monarch agents from birth of kong that stayed on the island, seems like the only non canon or soft canon comic is awakening I think it’s called, the one accompanying 2014
Ha jokes on you i don't have a car😂
The video was so good he uploaded it twice
State the year properly like seriously. It's 2000 for a reason. Not 20:14 and such. But meh, if you just want to mention the digital clock so often instead of the years then it's your problem
The problem is trying to get a consistent timeline in modern Hollywood. Writers ignore what's been done before for their own egos all the time.
It's also incredibly common that they're ignorant of the source material, because they don't care to put in the work 🤦
Than I want to ask why is Dagon the one that everybody keeps mentioning about who fought with mute prime if the event of muto prime vs Godzilla happened in the aftershock of Godzilla vs muto
One thing that I dislike about the legacy of Monster, is that they retcon Muto Prime and Shinomura. Then what? will they retcon camazots too?
Goji center please make a breakdown for the gxk trailer 2 Godzilla got nuclear pulse like heisei godzilla
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Hey a goji center I can't help but notice that you never did episodes 3 and 4 for 10 ways to die in peter Jackson's skull Island
The way i think its Canon because godzilla aftershock did happen but since all of the emerging activities from the kaijus made monarch hide the evidence like what they did to male muto thay said it was an "earthquake"
Hay goji could you please make a video to see who would win in a fight between Godzilla and the adult skullcrawler please.I would really appreciate it if you did.please and thank you
i have a question can you do a godzilla vs crabzilla plz for your monsters /exeint animals battle royale. 🙏
2:25 why did you pause it on that frame 😂?
0:37 don't forget, alternate versions/realities. One muto exists while the other dosen't.
Maybe the comic version only.
Also, writer's interpretation. One made the comics, while other made the movies/shows, but I doubt they keep tabs on each other. (Least to a certain degree)
the producers,in an interview,said that they acknowledged there was an event that shattered Godzilla's dorsals,so they must know of Aftershock and the Prime incident,why do you think they chose to set the series in 2015 instead of 2014? To not be conflicting and to not directly address the comic,to not touch its canonicity. And the Monarch members not mentioning the emergences of the Prime can be easily explained: it's already a miracle if some regular audience watched this series,which is also on a pretty obscure and disregarded platform,why mention something they'd have no idea of? Heck,not even all of the fans have read the comics!
But,in general,y'all need to stop making such a big fuss about comics decanonization,it happens everywhere now,written lore is canon until live-action says otherwise,I'm not saying it's right,I'm not saying they should do it,but it's a reality and you have to deal with it,pointing it out or whining about it won't change shit
I really dislike when movies don't see and reference book, novel, and cartoons. Only treat the movies as canon, I hate it when that happen. I have the book Godzilla: Aftershock and I really enjoyed it.
Tbh they were never gonna keep up with the comics in the films. No way are they gonna factor in these major events that only a tiny percentage of the audience will be aware of.
I think this was an issue that Monarch Legacy of Monsters was being recorded when the comic was being made and most likely started its production before the comic so this may have been missed
I was thinking that the reason we see Godzilla was underground, was because he was cooling off his dorsal plates after they were badly shattered and on fire.
So he burrowed underground to cool off his dorsal plates, while taking a nice nap in the process.
So, I was really hoping that the main group would AT LEAST point out his newer looking and much bigger dorsal plates. But sadly, they never did.
Love your videos as usual! Can we get a video about would happen if white spikes from tomorrow war invaded Skull Island? Or if white spikes invaded attack on titan during the rumbling?
Keep up the content I love it
Goji center shuld do king titan vs godzilla That will be interesting
My 3rd fav titan from the ones introduced in KOTM
After Behemoth and Methuselah
You talk about the dorsal plates and how they evolved from 2014 to the show. Good question that I did not notice, do his plates look preevolved in the flashbacks of Monarch LOM? If they don’t you can write off that. You had one clip I noticed where he was in the water swimming and that was from an episode back with the Drs and Army guy.
It was the biggest thing that bugged me about Monarch Legacy of Monsters
On top of the fact the writing for the mystery plot is terrible, there isn't any reveals that lead back to their findings at all they just get sidetracked again and again until they accidentally find the grandma still alive.
And there's barely anything to discover about the Titans, the only aspect I like was the first contacts with Godzilla and how he basically came back to save them, but those are super brief
I'm curious on what is the music at the start of this video. Does anyone know?
Muto prime sonic shockwave break godzilla's dorsal plate but king ghidorah drop godzilla from the sky and can't break godzilla's dorsal plate?
3:11 THE GOLDEN QUOTE
What if he was so much of a chaotic force the government had to cover him up since the public didn’t want to know of more Mutos
First season should have definitely been based on Godzilla and MUTO Prime fighting after the events of 2014, rather than what we got, that should have been season 2.
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The moment muto prime is non canon, every feat that everyone use of mv godzilla lifting muto is now gone meaning all the other godzillas are stronger off films
I just want to point out. It's not like he actually lifted it the same way heisei lifted ghidorah or mechagodzilla.
No he popped a squat and rolled prime on his back and while still squatting he used a nuclear pulse.
You a normal human can do the same thing with someone much larger than you.
It's no different then when godzilla shoved ghidorah and people saying he threw him. He did not.
If you grab someone in a fight and use your body weight to shove them a little does that mean you threw them? No. People blow these things out of proportion and that's why powerscalers are stupid losers who latch onto anything and blow it up with fanon numbers
If you ask me I think that giant foot we saw in gods trailer is the muto prime also can you do a video about the frostvark
Aftershock happened in 2015 which few by while they were in that hallow earth area 2 days was 2 Years on the surface
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They need to fix this. There's a chance to keep the comics canon. Just because it hasn't been mentioned, it doesn’t mean it never existed. They have time.
I think we're overlooking another titan being render non canon by Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, and that's Shinomura. That titan was featured in the prequel comic to the 2014 Godzilla movie, though that was kina non canon because the fact the movie showed nothing of the titan, let alone the whole Lucky Dragon event was rectonned in the show as well.
We need legacy of monsters to delve into Muto prime and maybe make an episode recapping the Godzilla Vs. Muto Prime fight
nice video goji center, well i have a video request cuz alot of people have been arguing from who would win between full power godzilla or mechagodzilla
Is it just me, or does Muto Prime give off strong Megalon vibes, I mean think about, both are large brown bug like kaiju with incredible burrowing abilities, now I'm not saying he was inspired by or based on Megalon 150%, I just think it's interesting how similar they seem at a glance, and honestly it makes me want to see the Muto Prime return
Would love to see the mutos return. Maybe even see a prime again, or at least see the fight between prime and Godzilla onscreen rather than just from the comic.
Hopefully maybe muto prime be in monarch legacy of monsters season 2 " maybe" but it would have been cool to see muto prime on the big screen
Please give me an answer your my most favourite youtuber and why didnt godzilla evolved to mega species insted of this form
If Muto Prime is ultimately rendered non canon, there's still one plausible explanation for Godzilla's change in dorsal plates. At the end of Godzilla 2014, the military attempted to detonate a nuke to kill Godzilla and the Mutos. While the denotation occurred miles away, it's possible Godzilla went to the denotation site to absorb the remaining radiation. This energy would allow Godzilla to grow, explaining his larger size at the beginning of KOTM (before he took the smaller nuke to the face). Just a possibility
I'm going to be honest, after finishing watching the series I still believe that only the comic Godzilla Awakening stopped being Canon, because before the same series came out the comic already showed many inconsistencies and contradictions with the story of the Monsterverse and it was very obviously that it should not belong to the chronology of the Monsterverse, however the rest of the comics continue to be part of the history of this universe, since it must be taken into account that the fight that Godzilla had with Muto Prime, occurred months later of the battle in San Francisco that is, in 2014 and the series is set from 2015 to 2017, also if Godzilla aftershock was not canon then where would the past of the main characters of KOM be told before the movie, the change of the Godzilla's dorsal plates, Dagon's past, the cause of the birth of the Mutos in 2014, and most importantly, where the hell would they get the origin of the creation of the ORCA device, and in case they didn't know, the places in where Godzilla and Muto Prime faced each other, they were isolated, there were almost no people, they were very far from civilization, including the sea and the mountains, and finally a simple visual effects and CGI worker does not have the right or the power to change the chronology of a story and invent that two weak Mutos and a giant building broke Godzilla's old dorsal plates, or say that they grew just because, since that would be begging and fucking stupidity
The one thing I always want to see is that you take a stick figure like The Chosen One or The Dark Lord with their Superpowers and Armies and put them on skull island. (I really want to see this so please think about making this video🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏.
The next Monarch season will be called Monarch lost files probably the characters finding lost files about After shock and why it was hidden
Hopefully, there's a way to contact the creators of the show
I’m hoping MUTO Prime is still canon and that the writers simply overlooked it or something.
Monarch legacy of monsters also ignores Godzilla awakening it seems
This is not the first time that the Monarch show ignored the events from the graphic novels. They also ignored Awakenings completely as well. It makes me believe that whoever is doing the show has never once read any of the graphic novels which is canon material. I am disappointed about this seeing how the show is completely skipping over incredibly vital Monsterverse mythology for the sake of what; time compliance?, production value?, or just resource material ignorance?
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In that case I must inform you that I don’t own a car lol. :p
Graphic novel tie-ins are beta canon at best. Alpha canon typically does not mention events that take place in beta canon.
5:30 bottom right should read 2015, not 2019.