They didn't nail it with the 360. The red ring of death was a result of Microsoft pushing the 360 out the door before it was ready. Not only did it alienate their core audience but it also cost Microsoft $1,000,000,000.
@@volerasphere That and Microsoft has deep pockets. They lost what, 4 billions with the og Xbox? For any other company that would be their first and last console
hmm i'd say they screwed up with the 360 i was put off by how they handled things with the non pro version and in general everything they did, naming convention of 360 lead to the stupid name of one. just name it xbox/xbox2/xbox3 or just something else entirely
XB1 also happened to come at a time when some big titles like CoD were playable at 1080p on PS4 but only 720p on Xbox, so Xbox 720 would have been a particularly bad name for the 360's successor.
I got my 360 late to the game. When I went to buy it at Target (where my buddy worked) they were sold out of the Pro, so I had to get the Arcade. In the end it was a wash on price as they had hard drives on clearance and I needed an ethernet cable. It ended up being fun watching people's reactions to the white drive rather than the typical silver. It red ringed on me just before the extended warranty window expired, so I got it fixed on Mr. Gate's dime. It worked for many years after, even when a lightning strike to the apartment building took out the HDMI port (and my router and a few other things), I just switched to composite and it kept going! I sold it years back, but regret it now.
49:57 Quick resume works very consistently well. It will literally say when it's available for a game (and it is for most), the only times where it doesn't work is for online games that require you to always be online. Which is obviously hard to do, when for example, your console is not even plugged in. And you can actually manually remove games from Quick Resume, if it really bothers you.
Quick resume is amazing. If you primarily play single player games its great, not having to go through the whole boot up and loading screens when booting up a game and getting straight back into the game from where you left off rather than whenever your last checkpoint was is great. There is definitely some issues using it with games that constantly require internet access to play but for the post part the feature works perfectly more than not. Its a bit jarring when i decide to switch over to my PS5 and forget i cant just instantly switch between games or just right back into a game as soon as my console starts up
I HATE Quick Resume. It constantly breaks with games, results in Xbox 360 games needing to just reload anyway, crashes on every online game it works with. It’s so damn annoying.
@jstyxx4110 seems to vary by person (and even by game, in my experience). For me, it also normally goes immediately to where I was in the game, as if I just paused it, instead of waking it from sleep mode.
Of the consoles with multi-platform titles, I was always a Playstation guy. Although not by choice, since I originally desired the 360 as a kid, but got a PS3 as a gift instead and got hooked through that. I only recently got a 360, so I could finally play its exclusives (along with some of the OG Xbox games), since it's retro now. Unless Microsoft does some serious course-correcting in the future, I don't see myself ever getting the newest Xbox console, if it doesn't offer anything different from what my Sony and Nintendo consoles, or even a high-end PC, already has.
If you really love OG Xbox and 360 then I implore you to get a newer Xbox. It’s insanely amazing how good those old games look in native 4K, insane how fast they load, and being able to quick resume those games is awesome/mind blowing lol
I've been an Xbox gamer since 2001 when I got the console that Christmas with Halo CE and DOA3. It's interesting to see how it's changed. OG Xbox was kind of weird in that it was a powerful console and had a lot of PC ports and whatnot. 360 was the sweet spot. Xbox Live Arcade and Xbox Live itself were groundbreaking and I still play some of those XBLA games today. All that said, the One launch was bad. Don and his team nearly killed the entire brand with all that always-on, DRM, mandatory Kinect, TV TV TV, bullshit they pulled. Phil did a lot to right the ship, but it's still not perfect. There's still not really any killer app exclusive game on the system, for example, and I get the criticism that if you have a gaming PC you don't need an Xbox. But for me, I like all the backwards compatibility, Game Pass is a great service, and it's still where most of my friends still play.
I was an Xbox since 2001 too. Became an expert at fixing RROD on the 360. But the MCC being broken on release convinced me to sell my XB1 and I haven't been back. I'll just use GeForce Now to play Starfield.
It really does seem like the series x has been a colossal failure this far into its lifespan. Microsoft can't put out a single decent AAA game for it YEARS into it's cycle. (Starfield is coming up, but this is Bethesda, known for blatant false advertisement, games that just do not work on launch and 76, which had so much broken with it and so much false advertisement that a new scandal came out about it every single week for like 8 months. I want starfield to be good, but they get no benefit of the doubt until it's in players hands and its word for word what was promised without exaggeration.) The console just straight up is NOT as powerful as they advertised, that or coincidentally not a single game on the platform is made to take advantage of it. The damn thing can't run games seemingly any better than the xbox 1 before it. Hell, again, not only can microsoft not put out any good AAA games for it, the games that do get released on xbox all have meager performance at best in terms of frames and graphical quality. And this is after no one being able to get their hands on it for a year into it's lifespan. This console is so far away from what was promised and is seen as a clear lesser by most to the point of being considered false advertisement on what this console would be by a handful of the community. I don't have a horse in this race, but Microsoft has been a completely shit company over the last decade as far as ANYTHING gaming goes. Just look at how they killed off their flagship IP so unceremoniously and unapologetically. Alot of people are hoping they get blizzard so they can light a fire under their asses and make them do something decent with their IPs for once. I personally want starcraft revived instead of the unofficial death it's in now, but look at halo and tell me Microsoft is in any way competent of making sure the developer teams they own do any work at all.
@@dusermiginte4647imagine criticizing without a rebuttal. “I do not like your opinion and I disagree” thanks for that fascinating contribution to the conversation. 🙄 nothing they said was wrong.
@@dusermiginte4647try again. Nearly hafway through the Series X market lifespan and only 2 games built exclusively for the Series X and its hardware and those games do not even perform in any way that pushes current gen hardware capabilities. They claimed the SSD will revolutionise gaming. PS5 was revealed to have their SSD performing faster, MS ditched the SSD promotion. Touted as "World's most powerful console" again, PS5 was shown to out perform the Series X in every category and MS changed their slogan to "World's most powerful Xbox." MS bragged about their TFlop count, after Mark Cerny in the Road to PS5 event stated and explained very clearly how relying on Tflop count is a dangerous metric to base performance on, MS stopped bragging about their Tflop count with Matt Booty and Phil Spencer publicly stating that graphics dont make a good game, it's about how fun the game is when you play it. I agree with that statement for the most part, but this statement from them is contradictory to their entire promotional model where "power" and "performance" was what they initially declared is necessary for the industry to move forward. I have an Xbox One used for my entire OG Xbox and 360 physical collection and Titanfall. I have zero incentive to own a Series X aside for a possible increase in frames on some titles, this incentive is not worth the $500 investment. Starfield is the only title I am interested in, but I have enough PS5 and PS4 exclusives to still play, so maybe 2-3 years from now I may get it then. By the time that happens, PS6 will be on its way so I may end up skipping the Series X all together.
Worst Xbox mistake: Misshandle franchises on its bag, they have a lot of properties they should keep their interest on, from the underrated Crimson Skies and Blinx from the OG Xbox to the entirety of Rare. Master Chief shouldn't be all by himself on the cover, Nintendo to this day still has prominent franchises showing on front and Playstation had a lot of that same back in the PS3 era with Killzone, Little Big Planet and such. Xbox can't just ask to live peacefuly from Gamepass.
A lot of older games and some newer games do have shorter loading screens in the series x, of about a couple seconds, compared to the older consoles which would take a longer to load. I actually appreciate this feature when I get kicked out of a PUBG match and I'm able to load into the match within 20 seconds😂 😂😂
43:50 Something I want to mention about Eldewrito. Microsoft didn't force them to shut it down, the team just couldn't make anymore updates to the game. After the team got that notice, that's when they did that big overhaul to look like Halo 3 and pretty much fixed every known issue. They essentially made their last update so good that they wouldn't have to worry about updating it anymore. However, as the years went on and MCC on pc got more and more patches, all the people from Eldewrito jumped ship to MCC. You can still play Eldewrito, but you'll be hard pressed to find anyone on there.
The fact that Xbox can market their console for 4K 120 fps and 8K without any backlash goes to show how broken the laws in our world are. You can say what ever you want to gain popularity and increase sales, even straight up lies and get away with it.
Went from ps2 -> 360 -> ps4 -> pc. I enjoy gamepass in its current iteration, but I gotta say, Microsoft has really dropped the bag in terms of gaming since the 360.
Most games that run at 30 fps don't do it for artistic reasons. If they do, then cool. Most these 30 fps games are just poorly optimized; the devs lock it at 30 even though theyll probably push 40-50 just so they dont get complaints about frame drops because their game sucks.
31:07 Ah, yes! Move to a richer city, BUT remember to pre-order Internet for your new house, before you move, so you can plug in your Xbox first thing when you start hauling furniture and boxes into your new home 🥰
It’s harder to remember what wasn’t a mistake when it’s comes to Xbox since the very beginning. It’s the Xbox live, maybe a few good years during the 360 era but other than that it’s a total mess of a platform
I am a larger male humanoid, I always liked the large original controller. When you fired a gun that big controller really shook it was nice. If I had a choice I would always choose larger controller 😊
When it comes to the quick resume works with single player games. I play a bunch of forza and it works perfectly. If you make sure to close your games out it won’t mess up
A personal one I have is them not including a gyroscope in their controllers. I really like gyro aiming and would to see it in as many games as possible, but it’s a bit hard when they’re the only ones without. Nintendo and Sony has it, mobile has it, and pc can utilize it with input remappers. I just don’t want Microsoft to hold back a feature that will be optional to players especially when it gives mouse-like accuracy to controllers.
They are not doing it, because it will kill their vision of people being able to play their games on Xboxes, PC's, phones or on the cloud. If one of these devices requires a gyro sensor while the others don't have it, it completely eliminates that vision.
The thing is if they included a gyroscope all platforms would have parity, because of course Xbox would have it. Xinput would most likely be updated to included covering the pc side of things. And most mobile devices have a gyroscope in them (the screen rotation thing wouldn’t happen without it) and Xbox has used gyro for aiming on xcloud on mobile before. The only problem there would be is older controllers wouldn’t be able to use it, but for an OPTIONAL feature that shouldn’t be all too big of a problem. Microsoft has sold and licensed out controllers that included features like total remapping, turbo modes, back buttons, swappable thumbsticks, etc. But a thing that’s in most devices is too far. I just want Xbox players to have the option to have it. It sucks seeing them be excluded from having gyro in games like Fortnite, CoD, and Deathloop (which is available on console and pc) all because they don’t have supported hardware and it’s the only platform where it happens.
I just wanna see more options. If someone wanted to use a mouse and keyboard on console I think they should be allowed to in any title. I want gyro as an option because I personally never liked using sticks as once console only gamer because they were imprecise, and I couldn’t use the face buttons at the same time. Gyro helped me solved those and made shooters fun for me. Even though I’m now on pc and can get in into nearly every title I can play, I still want people to have it as an option just like how Inverted camera controls are an option. It hurts nobody and gives people more.
A mistake in this video @ 27:10 it's stated that you must keep your XBL Gold account to keep the two free games you were offered that month. That is not true and is one of the pluses on the XBL network. Once those games are in your library, they are yours even if you stop subbing to XBL Gold. Nowadays, with Game Pass, that's still true for those 2-3 free games each month, but not for any game on Game Pass, since those are treated as subscriptions. Sony's PS+'s downside was that if you stopped subbing, you lose access to ALL the games they have ever offered to you. I am hoping when the PS3 sunsets, they are going to do something about all those games we were "given", will they work after the sundowning when the PS3 officially goes 100% dark?
Bro deadass the only reason I didn’t continue with Xbox with after the 360 was because of the ps4 getting cod dlc a month early because I was a huge cod nerd back then
I did use that pizza app to order a few times. Definitely was easier to just call but it was something fun and goofy at least. I see why a lot of the goofy stuff was done away with. Not good to clutter the UI and menus, then spend money to upkeep them or maintain rights when it isn't profitable. But stuff like that was still neat.
and I always liked the concave vs convex thumb sticks on a PS controller. I like both systems, but I wish Sony hadn't gone with those mushroom sticks. I modded one of my PS4's to be silver chrome /w concave aluminum sticks.
I use to support consoles up to the xbox360 era. But subscriptions to play has ruined all support. I game on PC and even now see more and more companies try to sell a game pass in order to play your paid games. Its sick and needs to stop.
Yeah, about 7 times out of 10 the quick resume works for me and I love that feature but there are definitely times in games where a reboot means NOT starting exactly where you left off that it kinda' lets me down. To what you said toward the end about some games running at 30 fps, it's definitely not a deal breaker for me but there are times that it's jarring. Like for about 3 months before Starfield came out I was playing the X/S version of Skyrim Anniversary and it was a beautiful, fluid 60 fps. Then I got Starfield and it was just such an insane feeling to see that this huge new flagship game (the one game I actually purchased the Series X for) ran at 30 when a game I've been playing for like 12 years was running at 60 and just totally outperforming a brand new 2023 game. I understand that Skyrim was nothing like this when it came out back in the day, but still. It was just a very weird thing for me. 😆 Nice video.
God, I remember playing ODST DLC for MCC and I was listening to the Sleepycabin podcast through a snapped Edge browser window playing Soundcloud. Shit was beyond convoluted.
The duke is one of the best controlers ever made. I never bought an xbox one but grew up on the 360. But i had a xbox one pro controler. When i got a series X the controler is WAY too fucking small. The things is tiny and my hands are cramped using it.
Xbox supporters are supposed to love their console so much but Xbox fans never support it. Even then xbox fans weren't buying anything for the console. No face plates, games. If the rumors are true, what we are seeing now with Microsoft's Xbox gaming division is happening because bots always refused to purchase anything.
Also Microsoft must have been smoking meth thinking that Nintendo wants Xbox Live and Game Pass on Nintendo Switch only to be told by Nintendo that they weren't interested in Xbox Live and Game Pass on Nintendo Switch.
This whole video is the reason why i've been playstation from day 1. While nowadays xbox is represented in my house with all 3 consoles up to but not including the series X, playstation is my console in my room and living room
Sorry but nonsense, the original Xbox had the longest controller cord out of that generation. Also I didn't have that feeling about Conker at all back in the day and it didn't feel like it from the sources i consumed back then, either. The only criticism I heard all the time was the beeping out of swearwords, everyone was praising how lush conkers fur looked and how detailed the world now was with waving grass and.. well floating shit and stuff. I think its more like in the recent ten years or so, where retro became more popular, people drove to the simpler less convoluted style of the original. Personally I prefer the graphical style on the Xbox, but both certainly have their charms.
46:48 still happening in 2023, people still selling the Halo Infinite edition for $1000.00 in 2023. Luckily I bought two brand new for $550 on the day pre orders went live for literally 1 minute before bits got to the rest. RIP all the people who couldn’t get to the pre orders in time.
Never making Halo CE and Halo 2 backwards compatible or not having USB audio & mic because of security reasons even though the PlayStation 4 and 5 has it but never had security issues?
"Never had security issues"? They've both been hacked, meanwhile series and one have never had a single known exploit. Not that i wouldn't love a new xbox hack
Say what you want about the size of the original controllers, but they're loads more comfortable compared to playstation 1 - 3 (and possibly 4, my hand gets cramped up after a while with 4 as well. But I've never had that problem with xbox controllers yet)
i love the ps2 as a system, but not the controller to be honest. well actually i hated the pressure sensitive thing to be more accurate, like i've broken so many x buttons in driving games because of that bullshit@@staringcorgi6475
The only thing I ever did with my Xbox Avatar was put a Godzilla costume on it. I'm just gonna be Godzilla now in any games that use Avatars, deal with it.
Peter Molyneux false advertising/hyping up a game. I'm shocked!!! I'm surprised Project Spark didn't get a mention. That game could have been huge, but they fumbled the ball with it badly.
To be fair, that kid technically cheated. Also I love the Xbox names, I’ve always hated putting 2, 3, & 4 behind the name. I haven’t had issues with smart resume, also just shut down the game to turn off smart resume.
The main thing about Conker wasn't really that it looked bad but it just strayed too far from the original artistically in many areas of the game and was also censored and y'know... that was kind of the whole unique thing with Conker, an innocent looking creature in a (mostly) innocent looking world but with gore and foul language!
OMG, Thank you, i thought i was full of crap because a lot of people, who indeed were, told me the Xbox Conker remake wasn't censored, or tried to twist my mind further in that the N64 original was censored to begin with! I only played the N64 version through weak emulation on my 2004 laptop back around 2005-06 and didn't touch it again till the release of the Rare Replay collection. I never got far in any attempt of Conker, but i did always remember from the far distant past literally seeing and hearing the Great Mighty Poo swear in his fight! I truly was never too interested to look into this matter before reading your comment, um...LOL i guess? I do admit that i was really interested in picking up the Xbox remake indeed for the graphics since Conker and other animals had realistic traits like fur and better use of dynamic atmospheric lighting that looked much better from early screen captures of the N64 release!
@@marukuanfuni I played both and the Xbox remake is by no means a bad game, it's just a shame mostly that a lot of aspects was changed but it can very much still be an enjoyable experience
I remember beating the entirety of Clone Wars Republic Heroes in a single day because of the Games for Windows live prevented me from saving the game lol
Not that it had anything to do with the crappy Games for Windows live debacle ( I think...), i had the same issue with the last official Unreal Tournament (Unreal Tournament III) release on windows (from Win 7,8 and 10)! Unless there is some checkpoint in the campaign saving system that I never reached! I never played the ps3 or XB360 version so i don't know! At least i could play custom and random bot tournaments outside of the campaign. With my campaign experience i would get to chapter II or maybe even III, have enough of the game and quit, and return starting from the damned beginning!
The only one I ever get, although I will say it’s pretty consistent, are the online glitches. Halo infinite, outsiders, etc. - quick resuming these games would break online multiplayer every single time til restart
I'm an Xbox guy through and through, always have been, but God damn does the quick resume really suck. I would rather restart my game (which takes 60 seconds with an SSD max) and have no glitches than quick resume a game, make progress, then some game breaking glitch happens and I have to restart anyway. It's always not worked well for me no matter what game. Online functionality doesn't work right with it most of the time too.
This is a great take on time periods. I lived through all of this. I hated the DMR part of it, living in a small town in NY. You nailed the AI part of xbox. I'll tell you MW2. The game chat was crazy. There are so many bad words at the same time, with ppl talking over each other. As someone who bought a day one xbox one. I have a lot of memories of me and my gf say "xbox turn off" or xbox turn to channel 25(espn).
A key point as to why Xbox Series games are not running at their full potential is because of the Series S and developers having to make sure it works on it too as Microsoft promised all Series games would work with the S. I think it definitely hinders developers being able to go all out on utizling the Series X capabilities.
Not only that but they made the Series S less powerful and optimizable than the series X which made no complete sense they really did made it harder to fully optimize their games to the highest level.
360 Netflix really pissed me off because they bumped up prices of gold using 3rd party features and apps they pushed as an excuse saying it cost alot to maintain then immediately discontinued Netflix parties next big update.
Not firing Don Mattrick sooner was their biggest mistake. He nearly killed Xbox and now Phil is trying to makeup for 6-7 years of mistakes. He was behind the Kinect which was the beginning of the downfall of Xbox. He was also behind the Xbox one being a tv dvr and having drm.
@@alec2456 are you serious? Or just really dumb? Phil took over in 2014, he’s been head of Xbox for almost 10 years straight now, and the brand has only gotten less and lesser relevant. The Series consoles are selling significantly worse than the Xbox One. The Series consoles launched with literally no games. Under Don Mattrick, the XB1 actually had a good launch line up and it was selling only slightly behind the PS4. Now PS5 is outselling 4:1! Don never “nearly killed” Xbox, that’s just lies that Phil Spencer worshippers like to push, it has no basis in reality when you look at sales and games released. Since Phil has taken over, Xbox has gotten significantly less games and sales have collapsed. These are objective truths. Phil killed Xbox, they’re about to become the next Sega, but you fools can still keep trying to pin it on Don an entire decade later 🤦♂️
Their biggest failure is failing to create another exclusive worth playing besides Halo. That franchise is the only reason Xbox still exists as a brand today.
It seems Microsoft didn’t learn from Sony’s mistake when they announced that they were shutting down their PSN store and backpedaled on that after severe backlash from loyal PlayStation fans.
Microsoft cancelling three Xbox One exclusives (Phantom Dust Remake, Fable Legends and Scalebound) is probably the main reason why the console didn't attract much customers and their first party line-up being weak compared to the OG Xbox and the 360.
Had a Xbox One and Series X for a while and tbh they're disappointing consoles. The 360 may not have been the best but it did have some really interesting games.
If they doubled down on it and worked on it, it honestly could’ve been a staple feature going forward. Not a significant feature but one that would come to be liked and well known on the console
Biggest Xbox mistake is easily handing halo to 343
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One they still haven't rectified because reasons.
Crazy, microsoft just nailed it with the 360 then blew it so hard with the xb1
Until the Kinect came out and they just gave up.
They didn't nail it with the 360. The red ring of death was a result of Microsoft pushing the 360 out the door before it was ready. Not only did it alienate their core audience but it also cost Microsoft $1,000,000,000.
Halo is literally the only reason Xbox still exists today
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That and Microsoft has deep pockets. They lost what, 4 billions with the og Xbox? For any other company that would be their first and last console
hmm i'd say they screwed up with the 360 i was put off by how they handled things with the non pro version and in general everything they did, naming convention of 360 lead to the stupid name of one. just name it xbox/xbox2/xbox3 or just something else entirely
XB1 also happened to come at a time when some big titles like CoD were playable at 1080p on PS4 but only 720p on Xbox, so Xbox 720 would have been a particularly bad name for the 360's successor.
It really made me smiling seeing Peter Molyneux talking about Project Milo. Man can't tell anything without lying at least a little.
I got my 360 late to the game. When I went to buy it at Target (where my buddy worked) they were sold out of the Pro, so I had to get the Arcade. In the end it was a wash on price as they had hard drives on clearance and I needed an ethernet cable. It ended up being fun watching people's reactions to the white drive rather than the typical silver. It red ringed on me just before the extended warranty window expired, so I got it fixed on Mr. Gate's dime. It worked for many years after, even when a lightning strike to the apartment building took out the HDMI port (and my router and a few other things), I just switched to composite and it kept going! I sold it years back, but regret it now.
49:57 Quick resume works very consistently well. It will literally say when it's available for a game (and it is for most), the only times where it doesn't work is for online games that require you to always be online. Which is obviously hard to do, when for example, your console is not even plugged in.
And you can actually manually remove games from Quick Resume, if it really bothers you.
The problem is that you can't even access an app without it going into sleep mode.
@@deathtrooper2048turn off sleep mode ya goof
It’s a game console, not life changing or life saving
@@deathtrooper2048my Xbox NEVER goes to sleep in USE
@@lIlIZ3ROlIlI You can't turn off quick resume.
Quick resume is amazing. If you primarily play single player games its great, not having to go through the whole boot up and loading screens when booting up a game and getting straight back into the game from where you left off rather than whenever your last checkpoint was is great. There is definitely some issues using it with games that constantly require internet access to play but for the post part the feature works perfectly more than not. Its a bit jarring when i decide to switch over to my PS5 and forget i cant just instantly switch between games or just right back into a game as soon as my console starts up
I HATE Quick Resume. It constantly breaks with games, results in Xbox 360 games needing to just reload anyway, crashes on every online game it works with. It’s so damn annoying.
@jstyxx4110 seems to vary by person (and even by game, in my experience). For me, it also normally goes immediately to where I was in the game, as if I just paused it, instead of waking it from sleep mode.
Of the consoles with multi-platform titles, I was always a Playstation guy. Although not by choice, since I originally desired the 360 as a kid, but got a PS3 as a gift instead and got hooked through that. I only recently got a 360, so I could finally play its exclusives (along with some of the OG Xbox games), since it's retro now. Unless Microsoft does some serious course-correcting in the future, I don't see myself ever getting the newest Xbox console, if it doesn't offer anything different from what my Sony and Nintendo consoles, or even a high-end PC, already has.
This is the same case for PlayStation now. The only truly unique console is Switch.
If you really love OG Xbox and 360 then I implore you to get a newer Xbox. It’s insanely amazing how good those old games look in native 4K, insane how fast they load, and being able to quick resume those games is awesome/mind blowing lol
I remember wrapping my 360 on a towel 😂
Microsoft replaced mine twice.
I've been an Xbox gamer since 2001 when I got the console that Christmas with Halo CE and DOA3. It's interesting to see how it's changed. OG Xbox was kind of weird in that it was a powerful console and had a lot of PC ports and whatnot. 360 was the sweet spot. Xbox Live Arcade and Xbox Live itself were groundbreaking and I still play some of those XBLA games today. All that said, the One launch was bad. Don and his team nearly killed the entire brand with all that always-on, DRM, mandatory Kinect, TV TV TV, bullshit they pulled. Phil did a lot to right the ship, but it's still not perfect. There's still not really any killer app exclusive game on the system, for example, and I get the criticism that if you have a gaming PC you don't need an Xbox. But for me, I like all the backwards compatibility, Game Pass is a great service, and it's still where most of my friends still play.
I was an Xbox since 2001 too. Became an expert at fixing RROD on the 360. But the MCC being broken on release convinced me to sell my XB1 and I haven't been back. I'll just use GeForce Now to play Starfield.
It's 2024 and this list needs to be super appended, lol.
Unironically miss Xbox snap. Would listen to podcasts while playing Halo 5 - it was a different time.
It really does seem like the series x has been a colossal failure this far into its lifespan. Microsoft can't put out a single decent AAA game for it YEARS into it's cycle. (Starfield is coming up, but this is Bethesda, known for blatant false advertisement, games that just do not work on launch and 76, which had so much broken with it and so much false advertisement that a new scandal came out about it every single week for like 8 months. I want starfield to be good, but they get no benefit of the doubt until it's in players hands and its word for word what was promised without exaggeration.)
The console just straight up is NOT as powerful as they advertised, that or coincidentally not a single game on the platform is made to take advantage of it. The damn thing can't run games seemingly any better than the xbox 1 before it. Hell, again, not only can microsoft not put out any good AAA games for it, the games that do get released on xbox all have meager performance at best in terms of frames and graphical quality. And this is after no one being able to get their hands on it for a year into it's lifespan. This console is so far away from what was promised and is seen as a clear lesser by most to the point of being considered false advertisement on what this console would be by a handful of the community. I don't have a horse in this race, but Microsoft has been a completely shit company over the last decade as far as ANYTHING gaming goes. Just look at how they killed off their flagship IP so unceremoniously and unapologetically.
Alot of people are hoping they get blizzard so they can light a fire under their asses and make them do something decent with their IPs for once. I personally want starcraft revived instead of the unofficial death it's in now, but look at halo and tell me Microsoft is in any way competent of making sure the developer teams they own do any work at all.
That was much bs.. thanks. 😂
@@dusermiginte4647imagine criticizing without a rebuttal. “I do not like your opinion and I disagree” thanks for that fascinating contribution to the conversation. 🙄 nothing they said was wrong.
@@dusermiginte4647try again. Nearly hafway through the Series X market lifespan and only 2 games built exclusively for the Series X and its hardware and those games do not even perform in any way that pushes current gen hardware capabilities.
They claimed the SSD will revolutionise gaming. PS5 was revealed to have their SSD performing faster, MS ditched the SSD promotion. Touted as "World's most powerful console" again, PS5 was shown to out perform the Series X in every category and MS changed their slogan to "World's most powerful Xbox."
MS bragged about their TFlop count, after Mark Cerny in the Road to PS5 event stated and explained very clearly how relying on Tflop count is a dangerous metric to base performance on, MS stopped bragging about their Tflop count with Matt Booty and Phil Spencer publicly stating that graphics dont make a good game, it's about how fun the game is when you play it. I agree with that statement for the most part, but this statement from them is contradictory to their entire promotional model where "power" and "performance" was what they initially declared is necessary for the industry to move forward.
I have an Xbox One used for my entire OG Xbox and 360 physical collection and Titanfall. I have zero incentive to own a Series X aside for a possible increase in frames on some titles, this incentive is not worth the $500 investment.
Starfield is the only title I am interested in, but I have enough PS5 and PS4 exclusives to still play, so maybe 2-3 years from now I may get it then. By the time that happens, PS6 will be on its way so I may end up skipping the Series X all together.
What about Forza Motorsport?
3:14 they had the similar for PS2 (the DVD addon) because I bought one myself, memories
The ds2 is by default a dvd remote which the xbox didn’t do until the 360
God the fact that in editing you kept the mistake of labeling both 360 models the same price drove me nuts
Worst Xbox mistake: Misshandle franchises on its bag, they have a lot of properties they should keep their interest on, from the underrated Crimson Skies and Blinx from the OG Xbox to the entirety of Rare. Master Chief shouldn't be all by himself on the cover, Nintendo to this day still has prominent franchises showing on front and Playstation had a lot of that same back in the PS3 era with Killzone, Little Big Planet and such.
Xbox can't just ask to live peacefuly from Gamepass.
Phil Spencer did so much damage to the Xbox brand. It is insane.
I miss the NXE dashboard
A lot of older games and some newer games do have shorter loading screens in the series x, of about a couple seconds, compared to the older consoles which would take a longer to load. I actually appreciate this feature when I get kicked out of a PUBG match and I'm able to load into the match within 20 seconds😂 😂😂
I absolutely loved the snap features, I could play halo and watch football at the same time. I wish they would bring it back
I remember when the Kinect came out my gym teacher said he was going to buy one and let us play it on the last day and someone asked "why?"
43:50 Something I want to mention about Eldewrito. Microsoft didn't force them to shut it down, the team just couldn't make anymore updates to the game. After the team got that notice, that's when they did that big overhaul to look like Halo 3 and pretty much fixed every known issue. They essentially made their last update so good that they wouldn't have to worry about updating it anymore.
However, as the years went on and MCC on pc got more and more patches, all the people from Eldewrito jumped ship to MCC. You can still play Eldewrito, but you'll be hard pressed to find anyone on there.
The fact that Xbox can market their console for 4K 120 fps and 8K without any backlash goes to show how broken the laws in our world are. You can say what ever you want to gain popularity and increase sales, even straight up lies and get away with it.
PS5 is the same. Look at a PS5 box. They advertise 8K 120 fps.
@@threefiveseven Infact PS 5 box only advertises 4K 120 fps, but good try. 8K is mentioned as well but not as 120 fps
Snapping was the best. That's about the only thing I miss from the OG Xbox One feature list.
I'll forever be amazed that my Xbox 360 never got the red ring of death. I sometimes left my 360 on for a week or more
Went from ps2 -> 360 -> ps4 -> pc. I enjoy gamepass in its current iteration, but I gotta say, Microsoft has really dropped the bag in terms of gaming since the 360.
Most games that run at 30 fps don't do it for artistic reasons. If they do, then cool. Most these 30 fps games are just poorly optimized; the devs lock it at 30 even though theyll probably push 40-50 just so they dont get complaints about frame drops because their game sucks.
31:07 Ah, yes! Move to a richer city, BUT remember to pre-order Internet for your new house, before you move, so you can plug in your Xbox first thing when you start hauling furniture and boxes into your new home 🥰
Hey, what about Blinx: The Time Sweeper? Bah, he's a forgotten mascot, anyway.
I kinda miss the snap feature. It was kinda nifty if i was achievement hunting and looking for a youtube guide
It’s harder to remember what wasn’t a mistake when it’s comes to Xbox since the very beginning. It’s the Xbox live, maybe a few good years during the 360 era but other than that it’s a total mess of a platform
I am a larger male humanoid, I always liked the large original controller. When you fired a gun that big controller really shook it was nice. If I had a choice I would always choose larger controller 😊
After the 360. It all went corporate and downhill. The great migration killed Xbox forever
When it comes to the quick resume works with single player games. I play a bunch of forza and it works perfectly. If you make sure to close your games out it won’t mess up
A personal one I have is them not including a gyroscope in their controllers. I really like gyro aiming and would to see it in as many games as possible, but it’s a bit hard when they’re the only ones without. Nintendo and Sony has it, mobile has it, and pc can utilize it with input remappers. I just don’t want Microsoft to hold back a feature that will be optional to players especially when it gives mouse-like accuracy to controllers.
They are not doing it, because it will kill their vision of people being able to play their games on Xboxes, PC's, phones or on the cloud. If one of these devices requires a gyro sensor while the others don't have it, it completely eliminates that vision.
Literally the only person I've ever known to like gyro controls. Really disturbing.
The thing is if they included a gyroscope all platforms would have parity, because of course Xbox would have it. Xinput would most likely be updated to included covering the pc side of things. And most mobile devices have a gyroscope in them (the screen rotation thing wouldn’t happen without it) and Xbox has used gyro for aiming on xcloud on mobile before. The only problem there would be is older controllers wouldn’t be able to use it, but for an OPTIONAL feature that shouldn’t be all too big of a problem.
Microsoft has sold and licensed out controllers that included features like total remapping, turbo modes, back buttons, swappable thumbsticks, etc. But a thing that’s in most devices is too far. I just want Xbox players to have the option to have it. It sucks seeing them be excluded from having gyro in games like Fortnite, CoD, and Deathloop (which is available on console and pc) all because they don’t have supported hardware and it’s the only platform where it happens.
I just wanna see more options. If someone wanted to use a mouse and keyboard on console I think they should be allowed to in any title. I want gyro as an option because I personally never liked using sticks as once console only gamer because they were imprecise, and I couldn’t use the face buttons at the same time. Gyro helped me solved those and made shooters fun for me. Even though I’m now on pc and can get in into nearly every title I can play, I still want people to have it as an option just like how Inverted camera controls are an option. It hurts nobody and gives people more.
That's one of the biggest Ws that MS did.
I loved groove music. I thought it was way better than Spotify is now
A mistake in this video @ 27:10 it's stated that you must keep your XBL Gold account to keep the two free games you were offered that month. That is not true and is one of the pluses on the XBL network. Once those games are in your library, they are yours even if you stop subbing to XBL Gold. Nowadays, with Game Pass, that's still true for those 2-3 free games each month, but not for any game on Game Pass, since those are treated as subscriptions. Sony's PS+'s downside was that if you stopped subbing, you lose access to ALL the games they have ever offered to you. I am hoping when the PS3 sunsets, they are going to do something about all those games we were "given", will they work after the sundowning when the PS3 officially goes 100% dark?
My gamertag has been the same since the original xbox and it causes issues with games like call of duty because it has the word man in it
Bro deadass the only reason I didn’t continue with Xbox with after the 360 was because of the ps4 getting cod dlc a month early because I was a huge cod nerd back then
I did use that pizza app to order a few times. Definitely was easier to just call but it was something fun and goofy at least.
I see why a lot of the goofy stuff was done away with. Not good to clutter the UI and menus, then spend money to upkeep them or maintain rights when it isn't profitable. But stuff like that was still neat.
No time stamps?
I thought about it but I wasn't sure how to chapter it cause I felt like some stuff overlaps
Update: added chapters
Got my son his xbox in 2001 and he wasn't a fan of the controller. Mostly because like me he hates offset sticks...they are from hell
and I always liked the concave vs convex thumb sticks on a PS controller. I like both systems, but I wish Sony hadn't gone with those mushroom sticks. I modded one of my PS4's to be silver chrome /w concave aluminum sticks.
I use to support consoles up to the xbox360 era. But subscriptions to play has ruined all support. I game on PC and even now see more and more companies try to sell a game pass in order to play your paid games. Its sick and needs to stop.
i hated the Live & Reloaded version of conker due to the facthey removed the swearing
Yeah, about 7 times out of 10 the quick resume works for me and I love that feature but there are definitely times in games where a reboot means NOT starting exactly where you left off that it kinda' lets me down. To what you said toward the end about some games running at 30 fps, it's definitely not a deal breaker for me but there are times that it's jarring. Like for about 3 months before Starfield came out I was playing the X/S version of Skyrim Anniversary and it was a beautiful, fluid 60 fps. Then I got Starfield and it was just such an insane feeling to see that this huge new flagship game (the one game I actually purchased the Series X for) ran at 30 when a game I've been playing for like 12 years was running at 60 and just totally outperforming a brand new 2023 game. I understand that Skyrim was nothing like this when it came out back in the day, but still. It was just a very weird thing for me. 😆 Nice video.
Honestly I miss the snap feature, it was probably my favorite non-gaming feature
Dudeee! All these years later i thought i was crazy! I took care of my games and my 360 would eat them
God, I remember playing ODST DLC for MCC and I was listening to the Sleepycabin podcast through a snapped Edge browser window playing Soundcloud. Shit was beyond convoluted.
bro what? why
The duke is one of the best controlers ever made. I never bought an xbox one but grew up on the 360. But i had a xbox one pro controler. When i got a series X the controler is WAY too fucking small. The things is tiny and my hands are cramped using it.
Gotta give it to Microsoft, they often got flack for things that would later get normalized. Always ahead of the curve.
Yeah especially with the always online stuff lol
Xbox supporters are supposed to love their console so much but Xbox fans never support it. Even then xbox fans weren't buying anything for the console. No face plates, games. If the rumors are true, what we are seeing now with Microsoft's Xbox gaming division is happening because bots always refused to purchase anything.
Biggest mistake was thinking they could survive in Japan
Also Microsoft must have been smoking meth thinking that Nintendo wants Xbox Live and Game Pass on Nintendo Switch only to be told by Nintendo that they weren't interested in Xbox Live and Game Pass on Nintendo Switch.
bruh literally not a single person outside of some journalists that dont even play games complained about the way the girls were dressed in doa
That commercial that got banned in the uk looks like it has the same font as ps3 and Spider-Man
This whole video is the reason why i've been playstation from day 1. While nowadays xbox is represented in my house with all 3 consoles up to but not including the series X, playstation is my console in my room and living room
Ps1 could play CDs while ps2 did DVD
Why was that ad banned in the UK? It aired here in the USA. I guess UK has no sense of humor.
I want to suggest you make a Biggest Xbox wins and Good ideas video, but it would probably struggle to be 10 minutes long.
Well PlayStation wanted to say Xbox has no exclusives…. Well now look has has the big boys now. XD
Sorry but nonsense, the original Xbox had the longest controller cord out of that generation.
Also I didn't have that feeling about Conker at all back in the day and it didn't feel like it from the sources i consumed back then, either. The only criticism I heard all the time was the beeping out of swearwords, everyone was praising how lush conkers fur looked and how detailed the world now was with waving grass and.. well floating shit and stuff. I think its more like in the recent ten years or so, where retro became more popular, people drove to the simpler less convoluted style of the original. Personally I prefer the graphical style on the Xbox, but both certainly have their charms.
I can't believe people expected a $500 console to run at 4K 120 FPS 🤣
46:48 still happening in 2023, people still selling the Halo Infinite edition for $1000.00 in 2023. Luckily I bought two brand new for $550 on the day pre orders went live for literally 1 minute before bits got to the rest. RIP all the people who couldn’t get to the pre orders in time.
I remember how you used to have to have Xbox Live Gold to watch UA-cam on the 360
That's insane! 😮
the vo audio level is all over the place in this video
Never making Halo CE and Halo 2 backwards compatible or not having USB audio & mic because of security reasons even though the PlayStation 4 and 5 has it but never had security issues?
"Never had security issues"? They've both been hacked, meanwhile series and one have never had a single known exploit. Not that i wouldn't love a new xbox hack
Seeing all this and xbox has made many mistakes along the way
16:10 "Banned anybody for having the word "Gay" in their bio or gamertag."
Microsoft was based.
We had a society with standards.
Not me watching this video on my Xbox 😭
Say what you want about the size of the original controllers, but they're loads more comfortable compared to playstation 1 - 3 (and possibly 4, my hand gets cramped up after a while with 4 as well. But I've never had that problem with xbox controllers yet)
The duke was way too big but the 360 is perfect in terms of controller design along with the ps2 controller
i love the ps2 as a system, but not the controller to be honest. well actually i hated the pressure sensitive thing to be more accurate, like i've broken so many x buttons in driving games because of that bullshit@@staringcorgi6475
Considering the recent leaks, you may have released this vid a bit too soon...
Imagine you will survive to DECEMBER 9999
13:19 ahh shit tonypizzaguy
The only thing I ever did with my Xbox Avatar was put a Godzilla costume on it. I'm just gonna be Godzilla now in any games that use Avatars, deal with it.
The wii goldeneye 007 was call of duty esqe
34:09 EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!
Been there from day 1 . Wasn’t as bad as u make it . & here we R !
im glad i waited ti get my Series S. i got it refurbished directly from Microsoft but it was worth it
The absolute biggest mistake Microsoft made was the xbox ones announcment
Peter Molyneux false advertising/hyping up a game. I'm shocked!!!
I'm surprised Project Spark didn't get a mention. That game could have been huge, but they fumbled the ball with it badly.
I love Xbox and my first Xbox game ever was Simpsons hit and run
everything from that kinect show is so inhmanely fucked up
To be fair, that kid technically cheated.
Also I love the Xbox names, I’ve always hated putting 2, 3, & 4 behind the name.
I haven’t had issues with smart resume, also just shut down the game to turn off smart resume.
The studio got closeeeed downed. Genius
The main thing about Conker wasn't really that it looked bad but it just strayed too far from the original artistically in many areas of the game and was also censored and y'know... that was kind of the whole unique thing with Conker, an innocent looking creature in a (mostly) innocent looking world but with gore and foul language!
OMG, Thank you, i thought i was full of crap because a lot of people, who indeed were, told me the Xbox Conker remake wasn't censored, or tried to twist my mind further in that the N64 original was censored to begin with! I only played the N64 version through weak emulation on my 2004 laptop back around 2005-06 and didn't touch it again till the release of the Rare Replay collection. I never got far in any attempt of Conker, but i did always remember from the far distant past literally seeing and hearing the Great Mighty Poo swear in his fight! I truly was never too interested to look into this matter before reading your comment, um...LOL i guess? I do admit that i was really interested in picking up the Xbox remake indeed for the graphics since Conker and other animals had realistic traits like fur and better use of dynamic atmospheric lighting that looked much better from early screen captures of the N64 release!
@@marukuanfuni I played both and the Xbox remake is by no means a bad game, it's just a shame mostly that a lot of aspects was changed but it can very much still be an enjoyable experience
Live and Reloaded is absolutely gorgeous... But I feel like the animations dipped just a little.
Honestly, lar is my favorite version of conkers bad fur day. It's a better game, but bad fur day is a funny game first, gameplay second
30 fps is fine…. On a 7” screen. 😂
I remember beating the entirety of Clone Wars Republic Heroes in a single day because of the Games for Windows live prevented me from saving the game lol
Not that it had anything to do with the crappy Games for Windows live debacle ( I think...), i had the same issue with the last official Unreal Tournament (Unreal Tournament III) release on windows (from Win 7,8 and 10)! Unless there is some checkpoint in the campaign saving system that I never reached! I never played the ps3 or XB360 version so i don't know! At least i could play custom and random bot tournaments outside of the campaign. With my campaign experience i would get to chapter II or maybe even III, have enough of the game and quit, and return starting from the damned beginning!
The quick resume glitches are certainly annoying but they are rather rare.
The only one I ever get, although I will say it’s pretty consistent, are the online glitches. Halo infinite, outsiders, etc. - quick resuming these games would break online multiplayer every single time til restart
I'm an Xbox guy through and through, always have been, but God damn does the quick resume really suck. I would rather restart my game (which takes 60 seconds with an SSD max) and have no glitches than quick resume a game, make progress, then some game breaking glitch happens and I have to restart anyway. It's always not worked well for me no matter what game. Online functionality doesn't work right with it most of the time too.
I must be really unlucky them
This is a great take on time periods. I lived through all of this. I hated the DMR part of it, living in a small town in NY. You nailed the AI part of xbox. I'll tell you MW2. The game chat was crazy. There are so many bad words at the same time, with ppl talking over each other. As someone who bought a day one xbox one. I have a lot of memories of me and my gf say "xbox turn off" or xbox turn to channel 25(espn).
A key point as to why Xbox Series games are not running at their full potential is because of the Series S and developers having to make sure it works on it too as Microsoft promised all Series games would work with the S. I think it definitely hinders developers being able to go all out on utizling the Series X capabilities.
Not only that but they made the Series S less powerful and optimizable than the series X which made no complete sense they really did made it harder to fully optimize their games to the highest level.
And to compound it even further, out of both xsx/xss, xss is the majority of console number sold out of the two.
Than have modes for series s and series X take a page from pc and develop graphics configurations for series s and series x
360 Netflix really pissed me off because they bumped up prices of gold using 3rd party features and apps they pushed as an excuse saying it cost alot to maintain then immediately discontinued Netflix parties next big update.
Biggest mistake Xbox has ever made: not firing Phil Spencer
Not firing Don Mattrick sooner was their biggest mistake. He nearly killed Xbox and now Phil is trying to makeup for 6-7 years of mistakes. He was behind the Kinect which was the beginning of the downfall of Xbox. He was also behind the Xbox one being a tv dvr and having drm.
@@alec2456 are you serious? Or just really dumb? Phil took over in 2014, he’s been head of Xbox for almost 10 years straight now, and the brand has only gotten less and lesser relevant. The Series consoles are selling significantly worse than the Xbox One. The Series consoles launched with literally no games. Under Don Mattrick, the XB1 actually had a good launch line up and it was selling only slightly behind the PS4. Now PS5 is outselling 4:1! Don never “nearly killed” Xbox, that’s just lies that Phil Spencer worshippers like to push, it has no basis in reality when you look at sales and games released. Since Phil has taken over, Xbox has gotten significantly less games and sales have collapsed. These are objective truths. Phil killed Xbox, they’re about to become the next Sega, but you fools can still keep trying to pin it on Don an entire decade later 🤦♂️
Their biggest failure is failing to create another exclusive worth playing besides Halo. That franchise is the only reason Xbox still exists as a brand today.
And even the "worth playing" part was dropped by the time Xbox One came out lol.
It seems Microsoft didn’t learn from Sony’s mistake when they announced that they were shutting down their PSN store and backpedaled on that after severe backlash from loyal PlayStation fans.
Imagine being laughed at the room by one of your enemies and then immediately taking one of the things important to that enemy
Microsoft cancelling three Xbox One exclusives (Phantom Dust Remake, Fable Legends and Scalebound) is probably the main reason why the console didn't attract much customers and their first party line-up being weak compared to the OG Xbox and the 360.
Who's here after today's news?
Me lol
😂
What happened lol
This is a great video, glad to see you branching out
I sure hope Milo is in this video. The most brazen, outrageous, bold-faced lie Microsoft ever said at E3.
Yeah, I agree that the Xbox One definitely had a messy release. I also think they bought rare to spite Nintendo. 😂
Videos like these really tell me why I don’t think highly of Xbox anymore…
Had a Xbox One and Series X for a while and tbh they're disappointing consoles. The 360 may not have been the best but it did have some really interesting games.
@@MoonlightBelladonna i agree, the 360 wasn’t perfect but man it had some of the best games ever
But I still prefer my big ass VCR lookin ass OG Xbox
If there's one "mistake" I missed from the Xbox was the Snapping system. I thought it was really useful.
Same, I used to use it all the time to watch videos while playing games. I’m sure the current gen consoles could handle it too
If they doubled down on it and worked on it, it honestly could’ve been a staple feature going forward. Not a significant feature but one that would come to be liked and well known on the console
Never get why they had to cut that off.