Exploring Consensus Between Ulema and Scientists | A debate with Pervez Hoodbhoy | Uzma Rumi
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- In 2020, a video of Madani Channel (an Islamic TV channel of Pakistan) went viral in Pakistan in which an Islamic scholar was teaching school children that according to Islam the earth is stationary. The video created a lot of hue and cry in public. At that time, I did an interview with Pervez Hoodbhoy for my program Bedari at DIN News to explore possibilities of creating harmony between faith and reason. Recently I uploaded a vlog on my UA-cam channel about theological basis of Ulema's hatred against science . And I think it would be of interest for my viewers to get a sense of how modern Pakistani intellectuals approach towards finding a balance of faith and science and a consensus between Ulema and scientists that we may find as an integral part of the scientifically developed world. That is why I am uploading this video for my viewers.
I am highly grateful for Mr. Mehmood Sadiq, Chairman DIN News who graciously allowed me to upload this video on my UA-cam Channel.
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*Why always scientists discover something first, then Ullemas discover the same in Quran later ?*
Why always scientists prove somthing later , which is already mentioned in Quran?
@@SajidSattar-n5m if mentioned in quran, then why did Muslims not discover these things hundred of years back which non-Muslim(in most cases) scientists are discovering today.? quran tou 1400 saal se hain na
@@themathsclub6332 wo Bechary Rozi Roti Ky chakkar mein hain
Because ullama are not ullama they are jahil.they can't dicover any thing. But they link everything who is discovered by scientists with religion.
Even church used to do this 300 years before.
But it is happening now in Pakistan.
Then why ullama didn't tell us first.
Why always scientists invent something and after this ullama says ohhho we know this.
You have to admit it that all ullamas are jahil total jahil.they cannot invent anything.@@SajidSattar-n5m
Hoodbhaye couldn't argue. He didn't answer straightforward questions. His "danishwar-ego" was so overwhelming on him.
Lots of questions but I can't ask him. That's why mass media is ineffective.
Debate with QAR - We want to see how intellectual you're mr Hoodboy.
Waoooo👍👍👍
Qaiser is doing more harm to your religion than you can possibly imagine.
This didi type scholar is saying why don't molvis invent scientific things ......but these puppets of west instead of inventing things just make videos on youtube nothings else ........i think they mismatch youtube videos with inventions 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Our AP Jo Didi ko west ka puppets bol Rahe ho our ye baat AP likh b English me rahy ho
Mei Khud Aligarh Muslim University ka student hu UP , India sa hu aap ko jab pta na ho to na bola kare Sir Syed kabhi Musalmano ko kufr O Ilhad nahi phailaya ha wo Nature ko aak waqt mei bht importance date tha lekin baad mei sudhar gaye Lekin aap na Perwez jaise ghatiya admi ko promote kar Rahi hai ye admi Musalmano ko Ilhad aur dahrya bna Raha hai
@user-od9co6yv3msale gai ko maa aur gadhe ko apna baap man ne wale kaum ha hum converted hai Alhamdulillah Allah ka caroro ahsan hum tawheed ko mante hai tumhare tareh nahi jo kisi nalki dharam jo khud tumhare Rishi na banaya hai un ka man mei jo aaya usi ko apna aqida bana liya hamare pas Al Quran hai jo revelation ki taleem hai tum log to kisi ko bhi apna bhagwan man late hai tumhara kuch aqida hai thori
Mein ek mulhid (atheist) ho kashmir se...Srinagar ke downtown se houn aur yaha par bohat naujawan atheist hai
@@Gabbargaamada Chae bae tunni Kashmir sa hu🤣😂
ask pervez lolboy why D.r mauris bacauile the great french medical doctor and archelogist became muslim after reading about pharoah in quran
1.20 crore Indian educated Muslims have quit Islam according to pew research centre survey..2.4 million Pakistani converts have quit Islam according to Mr Orya Maqbool Jan Pakistani columnist…24% American converts too have quit Islam according to pew
Dr hoodbhoy is a gem 💎 of Pakistani society..❤
What he invented After Leaving islam ??
didi should join some T.v serial 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
why the hell in pakistan everbody is discussing islam and science
Outstanding video that delves into the critical issue of scientific impediments faced in Pakistan, providing a thorough analysis and insightful commentary.
Engineer Muhammad Ali mirza - bhai agar tum dekh rahe ho haath jod ke request he excellent analysis comment mat karna
Har baat jo deen kae khilaaf hoti hai engineer usse appreciate karta hai
Hahaha sach kaha
yaarrrr 😭😭😭😭😭😭 level baat kardaali. Woh toh mulhidoun ke comment section mein bhi hamd o sanaa kar beth ta hai😭😭
bhai koi faida nhi ese comments ka, iske bjae ap apni daleel q nhi pesh krte
@@maviyaameer7680
tere naam pe Ianat aur tere naam k tamam logon pe Ianet.
Maroof sciencedaan aur danishwar 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Big joke
It's also surprising to see that Two people are fighting over Qur'an Says Earth is Stable Where there is no where in Qur'an that Talk about Planet Earth not revolving, it's about land being stable by mountains as pegs , There is more surface of mountains are under land , it stabilize the earth , what's wrong ??🤦🤦
Just use some dictionary The word Earth doesn't just refer as Sphere but also ground topsoil. The verse they are talking about is.
He has placed into the earth firm mountains, so it does not shake with you, as well as rivers, and pathways so you may find your way. [ 16:15 ]
I wish They have read Something Before speaking, Ignorance is quiet dangerous, they are not just lying but lying in the name Of Allah cuz Quran is from Allah.
Mufti yasir Nadeem Al Wajidi,
Qaiser Ahmed Raja , Assim Iftikhar , Mufti minhaj , Muslim lantern , Sheikh Uthman ibn Farooq, Amir haq , The 3 muslim, Elaina ali , these are some good Channels for a Muslim to watch .
Assalam o alaikum!
Uzma sahiba, nice to listen your last comment about Sir Syed. I believe he had the correct approach to solve the problem.
If someone has interest in detailed
discussion, will find me responsive.
Hope we can learn from each other.
Thanks.
Mam, kindly start podcasts as well at your channel
Everybody should to ware his family especially, children about science that how much important in this era for development of one nation? Because if our new generation don't aware of science then Muslim will lose everything in the future ❤❤❤❤
even a great scientist and physicst like D.r salam recited the verses of Quran while Receiving nobel prize ...This is a big slap on the right side face of lolboy
He was ahmedi and ahmedis declared kafir because they don't believe in khatm e nabuwat, still Muslims hate abdus Salam and ahmedis in Pakistan, we should recognize ahmedis as human beings and muslims
But his knowledge was derived from western scientists, who don't know Quran Majeed. Ya knowledge experiment k through mile tha, Gabriella na nhi diya tha, koi wahi nhi ayi thi Nabi ko. 🗿
What nonsense… He was devout atheist. His grandson is my best freind. Bcz he knows, To accomplish your mission in Pakistan, You should first prove your faith on Quran.
@Saif_08 as if Muslim scientists aren't a thing, idk why people keep dragging religion into scientific discoveries, do you ask newton's religion before studying his laws?
Still he was kicked out of his country by his own Muslim brothers and his community is considered kafir….
Informative
In our society , at first there must be a healthy environment for such discussions and debates. for a critical analysis and openion we first must be educated, intellectual and patient. we must first know how to listen , understand and speak.
Ms. Uzma Rumi,
The title of your vlog is very contradictory. How can there be harmony between faith and science? Both of them are contradictory and their domain is also different. It is like the harmony between death and life!
Since it is self-evident that when there is life, there is no death,
and when there is death, there is no life.
So to draw a correct conclusion,
first correct your question from the cognitive, rational and logical aspect so that you do not suffer from any contradiction.
According to me, your question or title is wrong and does not meet any of the above written aspects, the title of v.log reminds me of Saeeda Ghazdar's book
"Nasif Gawahi".
(Do not know why?)
Islam and molvis support scientific progress...dont blame molvis for your failure...Respect Swad e Azam if they disagree with you on any point...
Mam plz suggest some baby girl names
Zabardast , Proud to be an ATHEIST ❤🔥from KARACHI 🇵🇰📍
*❤
Wait for 295c . Tlp is in karachi
JIS sawal ka jawab nahi hota us sawal ko dabaya jata he w know .AP TLP k pichy Lage Raho our barbad hote Raho molbistan me@@mohammadfaizan9918
Science achi chiz h
Lkin aap ulma se badzhen h Or aap ka kaam science nahi ulma se badzhen krna h
Ulema jab is tarah ki baat karenge ke zameen ruki hui hai to kya log unse muhabbat karenge
@@irshadkhan4085 ye kuch or nahi tafaraka felaneki harqat he science aaj kuch kehti je kal vo theory react kr bi deti h
@@talhashaikhshaikh9918 تھیوری بدلتی ہے کلیہ نہیں؛ زمین گھومتی ہے یہ تھیوری نہیں حقیقت ہے
You are doing great work ma’am, you are gem 💎
Found very few learned anchor like Uzma👍
shram ani chahye ap logo ko...
jaha khud research krna chahye waha aisy gadiya program ki jaty he
kia QURAN kehta k duniya chiter murg ke andy ki trh he to uspy bat q nhi hoti
Professor mr hoodboy ... Ka intellectual level dekhna ho to qaiser ahmad raja sahib sath debate dekh lyn idea ho jay ga....
Raja sahib is a lawyer and Hoodhboy sahib is a physicist…haha what a joke…lawyer debating scientist
Qaiser Ahmed Raja is a student of philosophy, science and religion. He is an ardent critic of misusing science as a tool to promote atheism. He loves having discussions with people of opposite views as the exchange of ideas can be an excellent source of knowledge. He holds that, essentially, exchanging ideas in a respectful way is the best way forward.
@@NaeemAhmadHussainihe may have studied philosophy, and religion but he has no knowledge of evolution,cosmology,quantum mechanics,physics,embryology,etc…Hoodhboy sahib is an MIT alumni….no comparison between a modern mullah and a scientist
No brother... He has the knowledge about all of these things... Everything has the latest research.. we need to research more......
@@Hitchens-k9sWhat he invented After Leaving islam??? Scientist Intellectual Meri hassi ajib mazak bnaya hua mtlb kuch b😂😂
Pravesh Bhoot ke sare hmat raja se debate kijiye na
Qaisar Ahmad Raja
Sir ap ki science mai btata hon hijab per alcohol per or valgur
In 1920s even some scientists used to believe that world was stagnant so don't blame on Muslim scholars
Miss uzma rumi be educate you are showing a video of unknown alim and blaming to all ulema
دعوت اسلامی والے کہتے ہیں کہ زمین ساکن ہے
Please add english Subtitles
Pervz sb is great man long live sir❤❤ great show ❤❤❤.
I can feel his hatred towards islam
There is a difference between hatred toward Islam and pointing out ignorance. In this video, both speakers are trying to point out the ignorance and stubbornness of some clerics who, knowingly or unknowingly, cause great damage to Islam. The holy Quran repeatedly asks believers to 'think". "Do they not think?" "Do they not contemplate?" These are the messages that the holy Quran constantly gives to the believers. But our mullahs who have hijacked religion are as far from true Islam as heaven is from hell.
No one is against religion or Quran. But if someone refuses to think and use their brain, then they are going against Quran and must be called a bunch of ignoramuses (jahil) not alims.
The beauty of Islam is that it never stops believers from thinking and from exploring. In fact Allah says in Quran that He has made this world for believers to explore.
The stubbornness of ignorant mullahs should never be defended. They are not just against science but also against the very spirit of the holy religion of Islam. May Allah guide us all toward the right path.
@@mindspeak4186 see,I'm really can't read that entire thing
But i would like to say,I believe in education and empowerment
But that doesn't mean I'll disrespect islam
Do one thing,remove all your preconceived notions and watch it again
I subscribed your chanel because one video about science that you have uploaded 3 or 4 days ago about uluma that why they are against science? Because of ideological people, Muslim world have Lost scores of opportunity in the past and now we are losing golden chances because of them .we are not against them.❤❤❤❤❤❤
Why are you talking to Pervez about science?
Jamin sakin hai ye Huzur sahab na kab bola ye Al Quran mei Jamin flat hai ye kha likha hai Quran mei ye Saitan Jan bujh kar Musalmano mei ahsas a kamtari phaila raha hai Jamin saqin hai ye Ahmed Reza Khan ka apna Rai hai us ko hum Mane ya na mane o koi Quran ya Huzur sahab ka baat thori hai🤬😡
Ahmad raza Khan barelvi ki puri book hai ke "Zameen Sakin hai" 🖐
@@minha_sheikh107 Al fauzul Mubeen ji pta hai mujhe lekin ye to Ahmed Reza Khan ka apni rai hai Islam kha kahta hai Jamin sakin hai ya Huzur ya Sahaba na kabhi bataya Jamin sakin hai
Ahmad Raza khan brailvi Islam NAHI hy Ahmed Raza aur usky blinds followers ka mistake hy @@minha_sheikh107
Bary dukh ki baat hai k jo more than 50 evidences zameen k sakin honay se related Muslim scientist Imam Ahmad Raza Khan ne diye hain beghair un pr research kiye jawab diye ye ulama ko bura keh rahay hain...
Tang nazri hy bhai, Ilmi level pr muqabla nai krna aata in logo koo, bs media pr beth pr bhoonkwa lain bs.
Zabrdast ❤
اس دانشور اور سائندان نے خود کون کون سے کارنامے کیئے ہیں؟ تنقید کرنے کے علاوہ
Hodbhoy is not scientist
Abay Kon bhonk raha h
Koi b Aalim science k khilaf NAHI
Bht sary science k usool Quran m byan h aisi isalm bezar batyn na kia Kary
Mujy to ye khud scientist NAHI lagty
In the Quran -- Why Not Al-Muhammad ???? But Why Muhammad"UUUN" and Muhammad"IIIN"" ??????
Desi pakistani model type babe interviewing parvez lolboy who after comming from harvard became molvi
Ganda dimagh😂😂
Go and ask lums and nust student what is your achievement
Thanks for sharing
Lekin sir py chadar aur dipatta rakhna b mazhabi aur akhaqi haq h
I will also make the video ready.
کیا صرف علماء ہی زمین کے ساکن ہونے پر یقین رکھتے ہیں؟
دنیا میں۔ بہت سے سائنس دان ہیں جو زمین کو ساکن کہتے ہیں۔۔۔۔ مجھے تو یہ سازش لگ رہی ہے اسلام کے خلاف
Good
Name the modern scientists who say earth is static
Bhai Muslim scientists should be given Noble prize for proving earth is stationary…haha
10 لاکھ خافظ قرآن بن گئے اس سال لیکن افسوس ان میں ایک ایسا خافظ نہیں جو ایک انجیکشن بنا ئے، انجیکشن تو دور کی بات ہے ایک ٹوپی اپنی نہیں بنا سکتے تاکہ ہمیں چین سے درامد نہ کرنا پڑے۔۔ افسوس دینی علم کے ساتھ ساتھ دنیاوی علم بھی اگر دیا جاتا تو کتنا اچھا ہوتا۔۔۔ کہنے کو تو بہت کچھ ہے لیکن پھر کافر کے فتوے لگا دئیے جاتے ہیں😢😢
حافظ سائنس دان نہیں ہوتے، انسے چیزوں کی ایجاد کی کیوں توقع رکھتے ہیں
@@irshadkhan4085 بھائی یہی تو کمی ہے نا، دینی علوم کے ساتھ ساتھ دنیاوی علوم بھی لازم ہے لیکن خیر ہم تو دنیاوی علوم کو کفر سمجھتے ہیں۔اتنے مولوی بنتے ہیں کہ بعد میں وہ صرف دین کو بھیجتے ہیں کیونکہ ان کے پاس رزق کمانے کا کوئی ذریعہ نہیں ہوتا۔ اج اگر دنیا ہم سے اگے ہے تو ٹیکنالوجی کے میدان میں۔
Wo ilm e deen hasil krtay hain na k topia bnana. Be mature
@@saeed-ali-uet in se topia bhi nhe banti ok
2023 mey croro logo ny degree li mager aik pen nhi bana saky
Dr. Hoodbhoy is a great scholar
👍👍👍
Mashallah dr Sahab Ne bilkul durust farmaya
Reh gaya hoa ha ya insaan.
Pervez Hoodbhoy is an amazing person , love this guy.
Love you sir parvaiz hoodbhai ❤ good job azma khan romi❤
great hoodbhoy sir👍
❤❤❤🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩
v very good analysis itna samjhdar insan
kash hood bhai islam qabool kar lay
Apko Kya lagta h wo kafir h? Apni soch ka ilaj karo
Very nice lady
Hamaisha ki tarah behtreen
Sad but True..
*keep it up mam, because of them we lost our golden age* 😢
Because of them...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
go and read baghdad history .....every single scientist was an alim at the same time
@@hafizmalik335 I know and I am not claiming them bro, I am talking about today's mulanas
It was not your golden age..it was of the Persians..today’s Iran and Iraq..they won’t allow you to enter their countries without visa…haha..you are basking on borrowed glory..Iranians are shia… so they are considered kafirs too….haha…they will not share anything with you nor do they give asylum to other Muslims…haha
😎😎zameen sakin hai.zameen sakin hai oonchi zameen sakin hai duniya lagi huyi hai .aasmaani kitab .hadees ki recorded video jo phalana ne dimkhane se dhimkaana ne phalana se suni huyi baaton ka video dekhkar hadees apni matlab ki apni aqeede ki ghadkar riyasat ki talwar se logon ki dimaag me naya mazhab ghadagaya.kitaab ki sachai ki keemat tumhari gardan hai toh bolenge toh Amma maregi nahi bologe toh abba.arabon ki jehni ghulami chodo Abba dabba jabba .aa ab lout chale...
Hoodbouy is greatest scholar and scientist...baqi awam bhi dangar hai jo inko bura keh rehy hain on ki taleem middle bhi nhi...
Please Answer Me if I am Wrong !!
A Message to the all Religions Scholars ---
"" Quran Witness that -- Islam Was 100% a False Prophet's Religion "" Because of Maaa Kaaanaa Muhammad"UUUN " Meaning !!
See-- in the Quran -- "" kaaanaa meaning --- was or were and Huwa meaning --- is ""
surah no-2 , Iaaat no--204 , wa huwa aladdul-khisaam , [ Huwa meaning - Is ] ,
2 :216 , wa huwa kurhul-lakum [ huwa meaning -- is ] , wa huwa khayrul-lakum [ huwa meaning -- is ] wa huwa sharrul-lakum [ huwa meaning-- is ] ,2: 222 -- Qul-huwa azanfatazilun [ huwa meaning -- is ] ,2; 29 huwa al-lazeekhalaqa [ huwa meaning-is ],2; 37-innahoo huwa at-tawwaabur raheem, [ huwa meaning-is ] , 2;135 - wa maaa kaaanaa (WAS ) minal-mushrikeen [ kaaanaa meaning-was ] ,2 ;213 kaaanaa (WAS) naasu ummatan waahidatan [ kaaanaa meaning-was ] ,2 ; 222 - qul huwa azan fatazilun [ huwa meaning is ] 3 ; 78 - wa maa huwa minal-kitaabi [ huwa meaning-is ] ,3 ; 150 wa huwa khayrun naasireen [ huwa meaning is ] ,5 ; 17 inn al-laaha huwa al-Maseehub-nu Maryam [ huwa meaning is ] ,2 ; 36 - mimmaa kaaanaa ( WAS ) feehi [ kaaanaa meaning were ] , 2 ; 34 - wa kaaanaa minal-kaafireen [ kaaanaa meaning - was ] 35 ; 26 kaaanaa ( WAS ) nakeer [ kaaanaa meaning was ],44 ; 6 - innahoo huwa as-sameeul-Aleem [ huwa meaning-is ] 44 ; 31 - Min Firaun innahoo kaaanaa aaliyam minal musrifeen , [ kaaanaa meaning was ] , 33 ; 69 - about Musa - wa kaaanaa indal Laahi wajeehaa , [ kaaanaa meaning - was ] ,33 ; 72 - innahoo kaaanaa zalooman jahoolaa [ kaaanaa meaning- was ] 34 ; 21 -- about satan -- wa maaa kaaanaa Lahoo alayhim -- -- [ kaaanaa meaning-- had no ] , 3 ; 93 - kullut taaami kaaanaa hillal - li- Baneee Israaaeela [ kaaanaa meaning -- was ], 3 ; 67 -- about Ibrahim -- maaa kaaanaa Ibraaaheemu Yahoodiyyan wa Laa Nasraaniyyan wa laakin kaaanaa ( WAS ) Haneefam-musliman wa maaa kaaanaa minal-mushrikeen ,[ kaaanaa meaning was ] , 3 ; 95 -- Ibrraaheema Haneefan wa maa kaaanaa minal-mushrikeen , [ kaaanaa meaning--was ] ,
Indeed--- Surah no - 33 , Iaaat No - 40 , Says that --
Maaa Kaaaanaaa ( WAS ) Muhammad"UUUN " ( Title , Indefinite Noun ) abaaa ahadim - mir - rijaalikum wa Laakir - Rasool-allaahi wa khaataaman - Nabiyyeen ; wa kaaanal-laahu bikulli shay'in Aleemaa ,
In this Point-- Kaaanaa Meaning Was ,
A Mh-maaad or A Muhammad ( Title , Indefinite Noun ) Was Not the father of any of your men , but A Muhammad or A Mh-maaad ( Title ) was the Messenger of Allah and A Muhammad or A Mh-maaad ( Title ) was the seal of the Prophets and Allah ( was or is or will ) All Times - Ever All -Aware of everything ,
[[ In The Quran -- Muhammad"UUUN " Muhammad"AAAN" and Muhammad"IIIN " Meaning -- A Title , Indefinite Noun ]]]
In the Quran Witness No -- 1 -- Maaa Kaaaanaaa Ibraaheemu meaning -- Ibrahim was not --- [ 3 ; 67 ]
Witness no -- 2-Kullut ta 'aami Kaanaa hillal-li-Baneee 'Israaa'eeela meaning All food Was Lawful to the Children of Israel [ 3 :93 ] ,
Witness no - 3 Min Fir'awn ; Innahoo Kaaanaa aaliyam -minal-musrifeen , meaning From Fir'aun ; Verily , he was arrogant and he was of the Musrifun , [ 44 : 31 ] ,
Witness no - 4 -- Ibleesa ' abaa wastakbara wa kaaanaa minal-kaafireen , meaning -- Iblis ( satan ) he refused and he was proud and he was one of the disbelievers [ 2 : 34 ] ,
Witness no - 5 -- Maaa Kaaaanaaa Muhammad"UUUN " abaaa ' ahadim - mir - rijaalikum wa laakir - Rasoolal-laahi wa Khaataman - Nabiyyeen ; wa kaaanal-Laahu bikulli shay' in Aleemaa , meaning-- A Muhammad ( Title , Indefinite noun ) was not the father of any of your men , but A Muhammad was the Messenger of Allah , and the seal of the Prophets , and Allah ( was / is ) Ever All Aware of everything , [ 33 : 40 ] , ,
Witness No --6 -- Musa -- wa kaaanaa indal-laahi wajeehaa , Meaning -- Musa -- he was honourable before Allah [ 33 : 69 ] ,
Indeed --- In the Quran -- [ Ibrahim Kaaanaa ] , [ baneee Israeli Kaaanaaa] , [ firaun kaaanaaa ] , Ibless Kaaanaaa ] , [ Musa kaaanaaa ] , Kaaanaa meaning -- Was , same as --- Maaa Kaaaanaa Muhammad"UUUN" Meaning-- A Past tense or A Died Mh-maaad"UUUN " Or Muhammad"UUUN " --- then a Past or a Died Muhammad"UUUN " ( Was ) How Received a Book From Allah ???????
:::^
Indeed --- Quran was a Copy By the man From many Other Books , because Of kaaanaaa ( WAS ) many many Time in the Quran -- Even -- Maaa Kaaaanaaa Muhammad"UUUN " [ 33 : 40 ] A Muhammad or A Mh-maaad ( Title , Indefinite Noun ) Was Not --.
Indeed --- In the Quran -- What is the different Between two Word "" Muhammad "" and "" Muhammad "UUUN" Muhammad"IIIN " ????????
in The Quran -- Why Not -- Al-Muhammad But -- Why Muhammad"UUUN" and Muhammad"IIIN " ?????
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Dr hoodbhoy is a gem 💎 of Pakistan society..❤