UK."THE FULL" Fitting flexible liner & stove
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uBuyuDo.com was created so you could save money utilizing my 22 years of experience providing a comprehensive, professional chimney sweeping and stove installation service combining modern methods with traditional values.
A great time to think of undertaking this work is when a new loft extension or roof works are being planned using scaffolding. You could add the installation to the works your local building control can sign off. I would advise that you check with your local building control department what their requirements are before the commencement of works.
Just by visiting my website https//ubuyudo.com you can have a FREE GIFT sent by email. The free gift will be:
1. pdf file of Document J of the Building Regulation.
2. A stove calculator to check you have the right size stove for your room.
3. A Portal to your local building control office - just pop in your postcode and it should do the rest.
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PLEASE NOTE all installations have their own problems and risks. I would always place the safety of yourself and any others first when thinking of undertaking any works. For that reason, by referring to this video, you agree that you have understood the risks and undertaken the works of your own Free Will and will not hold uBuyuDo.com Ltd or me liable in any way for loss, damage, or injury to yourself or third parties.
There is no product placement in this video. They are my own views and I have not been paid to say so.
This fire pit is one of a few covered pits that is on the list ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM of approved products for Disney Fort Wilderness. The product served its purpose well and provided excellent fires throughout the evening. We were able to open the door and do s'mores, but I had to be careful because the handle was a bit hot on occasions. Additionally, I wish they had replaced some of the standard nuts with lock nuts in some places. We lost the door handle after just a couple of days of usage. Not a deal breaker, just a recommendation. I still give it 5 stars.
Just to Say thanks, with this help of this I saved myself thousands, my neighbours cost £6500, mine was £1500 max.
Fitted October 2022
I’m in the process of doing mine. How did you find putting the flue liner in from the roof? That’s the only bit I’m going to find challenging
Top bloke and and what an excellent video, I am a Building Surveyor and would have no problems recommending viewing as a good introduction to the why's and wherefore of fitting a multi fuel stove.
I would stop short of encouraging unqualified people to carry out working at heights but this was eluded to in the video - the rest of it should easily be accomplished by a suitably competent amateur but as always - safety first!!
Well done!
Thank you for a very informative guide to installing a stove, I have just fitted my own one following your very good advice and am now awaiting building control to visit and hopefully sign it off, hopefully I can share some pics of my finished job.
fantastic bloke, easy to understand and explains really well
How refreshing to see a tradesperson sharing how as a do a job DIY, Thank you.
I would like to thank you for your amazing step be step guide to fitting a multi-fuel burner, I copied everything you said & now I have finished it looks fantastic thank you much appreciated mate.
Does not get better than this ...... great vid
😊thanks👍
Good vid mate, great to see someone doing stuff properly
Excellent video, clear and instructional including the safety aspects 👍
Excellent "to the point"
video I installed my log burner effortlessly. Thanks.
Really, good job..I'm thinking of doing this soon.
Well done , brother you explain things in a condensed manner , it sounds so simple , I think I can do this with more confidence 😉 coming from yourself.
Good luck.
Thats was a cracking video very clear instruction and very clear safetly coverage.You should do more videos if you haave not already i feel alot less anxiouse about haveing one installed and i now think that with my bad health i will start getting so quotes for fitting of and the gear required
Hello Zedonepilot
Firstly thank you for your kind comments and yeas it you subscribe to our channel there are more good tips on keeping you safe.
If you are thinking of getting a stove fitted I would recommend starting with a registered chimney sweep to sweep and inspect the chimney. here's a link to the Nation Association of Chimney Sweeps, just put in your post code at the top of the page and go from there. Make shore you get the height of the chimney placed on the certificate of sweeping, you may need that at a later date. nacs.org.uk/
You can perches the lining kits from ourselves and get your local Hetas engineers to undertake the installation. Just click on the links on the top right of this video and check out our prices.
Here's a link to Hetas, again just pop in your post code and go from there.
www.hetas.co.uk/find-installer/
Good luck in getting it done.
Kind Regards
Paul Ross
Great video and very helpful. I kno u are now retired from this work but Please these videos up for education, they were so informative Thankyou
Great video by a knowledgeable and skilled expert. In England and Wales this job is now governed by building control and building regulations and specific room ventilation may be necessary before installing a new stove.
Brilliant video...Paul's presenting style is so clear and concise which makes it easy to follow...But I'm still not sure if I want to throw out my 12 yr gas boiler and move to wood...but I am getting so fed up with gas engineers missing app.'s.....Great video..
Great video , I've installed a few multi fuel stoves, but its always good to refresh my memory with a handy video like this. Top marks Paul.👍
great video! Helmet camera is so helpful. I love the random chuckles...made me laugh!
Hi Carla
Thanks, it's just me being me. Lol.
I will be filming a lot more video soon to go with the new up and coming website.
So remember to subscribe to my channel to see more 😉
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Paul Ross 👍🏼
Chimbley! A man of my own heart;)
Excellent tutorial, and a very gifted instructor .... thank you for generously sharing your knowledge.
Excellent video, everything explained clearly and concisely. 👍 I'm happy to go ahead and diy my stove install now 👍
Your drive😂😅
At last! I know what that bowl thing was for. I bought a stove and fitting kit and just couldn't work out what the bowl thing was for and why it was left over😁👍
Thank you , i found this one of the most informative channels , I just wish when the coil the flue liners they wouldn't do them so tightly.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that makes those noises when I’m working 😂
:) :) :)
.. Simply AMAZING .. many thanks my friend .. probably the best , and most informative video on this subject I have ever seen .. funny too !
Fair play mate this is amazing! Really helped me installing mine you top geezer !!!
Great information and well presented, Thanks.
fit the stove first, then cut the top and fit cowl?
Great straightforward explanation 👍👍
Thanks for your video, really helped me with my install. Now I'm having real issues trying to get someone to come round and sign it off. A lot won't touch it because it's not their work. Any advice? I've tried contacting building control, but they explained all they would do is to try and get a HETAS engineer to sign it off.
Great video ,everything you need to know from start to finish 👍
Hi Sam
Thank you for commenting.
The answer is yes and no. The manufacturer will normally recommend the chimney is lined. One of the reasons for this is to get the best efficiency from the stove. The access for sweeping the chimney and removing the soot from both sides of the stove pipe and register plate can be very restricted. My normal recommendation is line the chimney flue, if your chimney is on a party wall or your property is in a block of flats I personally would not undertake fitting without lining the flue. That being said I have fitted only two stoves without lining. The flues where on an outside wall of the property. I had swept and smoke tested each flue. (do not get confused, sweeping a chimney flue is not testing it) I fitted a blank register in the fire opening then fitted a soot door/inspection plate on the outside of the chimney stack.
I could get into flue gases, internal brickwork flue being oversized coursing a greater build up of soot in the flue and so on and so on....
Hopefully I have given you something to think on.
Kind regards
Paul
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A great installation but inserting the stove inside a chimney is a bad choice because you only heat the chimney ! A better efficient choice would have been to put the stove IN FRONT OF the chimney......The stove pipe (L shape for example) can also heat the room ! Lots of people nowday forget that.
You get the sweeping brushes up there through the fire (ready for all the shoot to catch it) you put a big white liner at each side of the fire. This is the way our coal fire for as long as I can remember
We are a chimney sweeping family company that's been working since 1964 ( know of any longer than that? ) anyway your video is outstanding. I just wish all so called professional stove installers were as good as you. I could tell you many ridiculous stories mainly involving ripping the customers off. Keep up the good work.
Hello Shedfan
Thanks for your kind comments. This all started buy me inspecting a stove fitted by a person who saw video's on youtube. After seeing what is out there I thought someone needed to try and keep people safer then what I had seen. The rest in history as they say.
As you know some people will fit their own stoves, its going to happen. I just want them to try and understand whats involved and help them be safer in their endeavours. The next thing is getting people to understand the quality of the products they use.
Anyway that's my preaching for today. :)
Thank you again for your kind thoughts.
Ps: were are you based?
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Paul Ross
uBuyuDo.com we are based in Co Durham. Traditional chimney sweeps that have customers all over Durham and surrounding areas. Started by my father now retired and now run by two of his sons.
However we are thinking of installing stoves and flu liners simply because we know what any specific chimney needs and most importantly how it needs to be swept. Many are fire hazards because they are installed wrong.
Your videos will help keep people safe so thanks and well done.
@@shedfan chimney fires are also caused by the media people choose to burn, ie damp timber and coals, plastics etc. I have seen chimney fires and they can have devastating effects. To see shall we say master tradesmen at work is uplifting. So to you your sweeps and Paul stay safe and keep up the good work.😊
great video. we are just opening up a fireplace now and need to replace the lintel. most install videos show a half brick shoulder each side but regs say 150mm unless I'm missing something. the one I took out was about 30mm so 100mm shouldn't be an issue.... should it.
Hello Barnie8282
Thank you for the question. All I can say to your question is regulations changes from time to time for the better and it may have been great back when the lintel was put in place but when your fitting one your should use the most up to date regulations.
Thanks again for taking the time to comment and remember be safe in all your endeavours.
Kind regards
Paul Ross
Brilliant Video, most helpful. Thank you 👌👍🏻🇬🇧
17.40. Opening width - 480 mm. 19” in English Are you sure ?
good vid not as hard as I thought ,one question I do have is how to sweep with the birdy guard on ?
Well done very good clip.
brilliant tutorial pal....thanks.
can I ask,...do you need to put a register plate in with an inset fire?.....or can I just pipe it up and pour vermiculite around the stove and liner?
Hello Diamond
Thanks for your question.
As to the register plate, not normally fitted with inset fire. Normally an adaptor to stove. As to vermiculite, check out one of my other video's on this copic ua-cam.com/video/ir8yFupNAao/v-deo.html
For your information we a comprehensive liner kit. Just click on the top right corner of the video for more information or click here. www.ubuyudo.com/shop/
Thanks again for the comments and remember be safe.
Kind Regards
Paul Ross
Asking for a friend? If the flexi went in upside down would that really make a difference, thanks
HiIf the brick chimney is working fine I don't need too install a flue liner for a multifuel stove or do thanks
Very information.. top marks
Great video, I am guessing the 1 dislike is a chimney sweeper/ installer who is out of business. You mentioned about taking photos throughout, of what?
Look forward to seeing the other vids.
hello Stephen Walkerpu
Thanks for your comments. As to putting chimney sweeps and installers out of business l can't agree. at 1:30 l state call in a professional chimney sweep and all installations should be checked by local building control who will call out an Hetas engineer to inspect and fill out the inspection sheet on page 69 of Document J of the Building Regulation. building control will charge on average £260 plus the Hetas engineers charge. some if you call out an Hetas engineer and ask them to inspect your installation and you will have to have an certificate of sweeping from a chimney sweep so they will both be working. On average over 20,000 installations are fitted by DIY people. l'm just trying to keep them safer by giving them an understanding of the works involved and asking them to get their work inspected by a professional.
thanks again for taking the time to comment.
Kind regards
Paul Ross
hello Stephen Walkerpu
Thanks for your comments. As to putting chimney sweeps and installers out of business l can't agree. at 1:30 l state call in a professional chimney sweep and all installations should be checked by local building control who will call out an Hetas engineer to inspect and fill out the inspection sheet on page 69 of Document J of the Building Regulation. building control will charge in on average £260 plus the Hetas engineers charge. some if you call out an Hetas engineer and ask them to inspect your installation and you will have to have an certificate of sweeping from a chimney sweep so they will both be working. o
hello Stephen Walkerpu
Thanks for your comments. As to putting chimney sweeps and installers out of business l can't agree. at 1:30 l state call in a professional chimney sweep and all installations should be checked by local building control who will call out an Hetas engineer to inspect and fill out the inspection sheet on page 69 of Document J of the Building Regulation. building control will charge on average £260 plus the Hetas engineers charge. some if you call out an Hetas engineer and ask them to inspect your installation and you will have to have an certificate of sweeping from a chimney sweep so they will both be working. On average over 20,000 installations are fitted by DIY people. l'm just trying to keep them safer by giving them an understanding of the works involved and asking them to get their work inspected by a professional.
thanks again for taking the time to comment.
Kind regards
Paul Ross
That was said tongue in cheek so agreement wasn't expected, your comment about doing these vids as a result in seeing some pretty poor work in the past and to improve the safety of ourselves having a go is very admirable. I would have no doubt called out a competent and qualified person on completion regardless of requirements for a sanity check. Great work with the videos.
Are you saying it is cheaper and perfectly acceptable to call a HETAS engineer out rather than going through building control to cut out the middle man and save a few quid whilst still having a safe operating stove and the certification to demonstrate this?
Very informative installation bud all the best
Did you attach the register plate to the brackets with self tapping screws, presumably with holes that you drilled before putting in the brackets?
BRILLIANT Video, thanks a lot! 👍🙏💥 Also, you are gorgeous 😍
Great post many thanks
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I have something coming very soon that as been in the US for forty years and I've just got the contract for sole agent and distribution. And for something completely different here is a link to the first book of a set of children's stories I have written soon to be released. So keep on watching and commenting as it dose mater to me and don't forget to register so you won't miss out on the the good stuff coming soon
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T-Care and thanks again.
Paul.
how did you fit the adaptor?. it appears after you bent the liner apart? ps like your upload plus all your safety advice! heres one from me "don't. ever wear your harness inside out and always hook your lanyard to a suitable anchor point, preferred 1 ton shock load... ;) Lol cheers m8 My next DIY job...
Hello The World is yours!
You are so right on the harness being inside out, I have made a mental note double check each time I wear it. Thanks.
As for the lanyards and anchor point. I secured a rope around the stack then secured the shock lanyard to this.
Here's a link to my FB page, I have placed some information on the adaptor connection and the lanyard I used. facebook.com/UbuyUdo/
We did shoot the adaptor being connected but that seen got corrupted. I new someone would pick me up on that. Well spotted. :)
If this is going to be your next DIY job then check out our Liner kit on our website www.ubuyudo.com/shop/ As well as the free gifts. They will come in handy.
Thanks again for your comments.
And remember safety in all your endeavours.
Kind Regard
Paul Ross
What were those pictures you were talking about throwing in a folder with the sweeping certificate ? and who's the guy that needs to see them ?
Hello 5rrt445 or can I just call you "5"
Thank you for the question sorry you slipped through the net.
Taking pictures to show that you have correctly connected and strapped the flue liner to the pot-hanger bird cowl, the show the correct strapping of bird cowl to the chimney pot. Also taking a picture of the screw in adaptor before you fit the register plate. The person you would then show would be your local building control inspector or the Hetas engineer who could inspect the installation and the complete the sheet on page 69 of document J. you can down load a free copy of the document from the link above this video.
Thanks again for the question. Originally we had this information on the video but it would have been even longer than 30 minuets so we had to edit and those who want to know would ask so thanks for asking.
T-Care "5"
Kind regards
Paul Ross
Great, very good of you to take the time to reply to these.
Thanks "u".
Just kidding, cheers Paul.
What a great and useful vid. Thank you.
Brilliant video. Thank you 👍🏻
Great video...why are you so so expensive for the flue liner kit..?
Hello Nathan
Thanks for the comment.
As for being expensive all I can say is we have tried to get the best of each product. Our liner kits having ten items were most if not all the other kits I have see have just three, four or if your lucky five items. Our line has a 20 year warranty if swept each year. As for some of the others, 10 year warranty and prof of sweeping every 4 months.
I personally believe a great liner kit a good value.
Thanks again and remember be safe.
Paul Ross
this guy is definitely ex SAS
Hi Tom
All I can confirm relating to your comment is you have a great imagination. lol :)
Thanks for making me smile today, we all need more of this. :)
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Paul Ross
Brilliant video
Do u not seal flue pipe and flexi connector to stop smoke coming out
nice one looks like a George Micheal
Great video. Very Impressed at the bend on those liners. Our house has 2 chimneys but one (from an open fire) runs at an angle up to join the main chimney again. Just would be nervous about the liner not being able to find its way down but they look flexible enough... Just nervous as the chimneys are in the middle of the house so any damage could be more troublesome :(
Basically that big long message above is a round about way of saying "Is there ever a chimney setup you have looked at and went NO WAY we cant stick a liner down that!" :) ?
great video mate
Great work
top man i now know how to fit a burning stove . yip ee . oh im scared of hights
How often you see a Register plate ?? Cool, Great job Boss.Way the go Love and Thanks for the Video.
T😉hank you for your comments, you have just won the Enthusiasm award for the week.👍🏼
brill vid and think I can now possibly have a go myself I bought a stove before I watched this and what do you know its a fdc 5widethe only thing in the vid that throws me is where you say you have to fire cement inside ?thanks martyn
Hello Martyn
Firstly, Good Stove :)
As to the fire cement I placed inside the stove. I was referring to the stove pipe that enters the stove from about. I fire cement the base of the stove pipe to seal it to the stove.
If you are looking to undertake this work I would recommend getting the free gifts from my website to aide in your endeavours. Just click on the link at the top right of this video for the free gifts.
OK here's my selling hat on now. The liner Kit we have put together is the best I have seen with ten items and not just the 4 or 5 from other suppliers. Again just click on the links and check out the price on the kit.
I hope that helps
Just remember be safe in all your endeavours.
An please subscribe to our page so you wont his so more great things coming soon.
Kind Regards
Paul Ross
Thanks Paul
When I bought the stove we bought everything for the complete fit
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10mts of 5" duraflue flexible liner,bird nesting top cowl (exactly the same as the one you use) and adaptor
Thanks for the quick supply
Reply sorry
Top man , well explained 👍👍
Excellent how to video
Love the video , I am looking to line my chimney from an open fire place with a gather and liner.What diameter liner would you recommend?Also,what brand is the chimney pot in the video?
Hello Limekiln100
I can't stress enough that lining a chimney flue for a stove is a completely different animal than lining a chimney for an open fire.
I would recommend having your chimney checked and inspected by a professional chimney sweep and Hetas engineer. Here's a link to a site to find one in your area www.hetas.co.uk/find-chimney-sweep/
What I'm going to say is only as a guide.
Normally an minimum 8" M/Fuel liner is required for an open fire and I would say that over 60% of the time I have fitted an 8" liner I have had to open up the chimney breast, bedroom or loft to fit the chimney flue.
This link to my FB group for chimney sweeping and lining. It will show you what I mean. If you like please feel free to like. :)
facebook.com/ChimneySweepsltd/photos/pcb.1020344338019169/1020344218019181/?type=3&theater
Personally my thoughts are that an 8" liners is not undertaken by the DIY person.
The chimney pot was an 300mm canon head pot.
Kind Regards and remember safety in all your endeavours.
Paul Ross
Thanks Paul, just measured the internal width of the chimney-just 10 inches-would this make "full surgery" inevitable?
Hello Limekiln100
Have a local chimney sweep or hetas engineer do a core-ball test of your chimney. Once all the inspections and sweeping has been done if you still require a good flue liner and gather just drop me a line.
We can deliver anywhere in the country including Wales and Scotland.
Kind regards
Paul Ross
Brilliant. Thank you!
How does the flexy flue attach at the registry plate? Did you simply fire cement it to the plate? Or somehow bolt the two together?
Hi Joe
Thanks for the question.
l leave the screw on adapter slightly longer than were the base of the register plate will be fitted, only an inch or two. Then when you fit the register plate the seal on the adapter fits snugly effectively sealing both together. once the stovepipe and stove are fitted l then place a skim of fire cement over the joints.
l hope that answers your question.
Feel free to subscribe to my channel as l will be adding more videos and information as we go.
Thanks again
Paul Ross
Hi Joe
l think l must a part of your question.
the flexible liner fits to a screw on adaptor the fits through the register plate.
Paul Ross
Hi Paul, thanks for video, it was very informative. I have 2 questions if you wouldnt mind answering:
1. I have a circular clay lined chimney flue, do I still need a metal flue liner in this instance?
2. In which instance would I need vermiculite backfill around the flue?
Thanks!
Hi Gibonz :)
Two good questions.
1. Clay pot liners should be lined, all stoves are not tested of clay or brickwork flues. The efficiency of the stove could be dramatically changed, and with the new regulations coming in the efficiency will be king, plus the way stoves are being made you can have a lot of problems with unlined chimney flues through inefficient burning.
Sorry for the BLATANT PLUG :)
Here is our link to a great liner kit, put together by yours truly.
ubuyudo.com/product/stove-liner-kit/
just answer two questions on the page and it will miraculously give you a price. Yep, amazing I know, go figure :)
2. As for the backfilling of the liner with vermiculite around the flue. Here's one of my videos directly on that. ua-cam.com/video/ir8yFupNAao/v-deo.html
Hope this helps
Remember above all, keep safe
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Paul Ross
@@paulR505 Thank you for the reply Paul, much appreciated. 1 last question if you dont mind.
Whats your thoughts on hooking up an external air supply directly into the back of the stove? I've heard various pro's/con's to this
@@Gibonz no problem
If the stove comes with a manufacturers kit for a direct air supply and in in a position where it can be use l personally would use it.
It does away with an external air vet and stops any problem with draft.
For me a win win.
hi paul thanks for the video,only thing im not sure about,is what type od ciment i have to use to plaster the wall inside the chimney?thanks
Cement render. will a little bit of lime if you have it.
Hello Susana
Sorry for the delay in responding, out sweeping chimneys for Santa.
As to your question the answer from LabRat6619 was great.Cement render. will a little bit of lime if you have it.
Sorry again and Remember to have a great Christmas and happy New Year.
Kind Regards
Paul Ross
Thanks Labrat6619 for covering my back.
T-Care and remember to have a Great Christmas and New Year.
Kind Regards
Paul Ross
I live in richmond upon Thames I know this is a restricted and the work be completed by a reg company .
840mm from the hearth is the minimum height is this correct?
The shimmery will have to be sweep , I believe by reg company?
I"m in the process of forming the opening.
Excellent video
Hi, nice vid. I installed a flute liner some 12 odd years ago and due to changing my chimney stack have decided to replace it as scaffolding is up. However when I installed it I did it from inside, and it got very tight and stuck about a foot from the pot top. My concern now is removal, will it snap half way? If it does snap how on earth can I remove the old one? Thanks for your support
Hi have not got chimney pot previous back boiler what cowling will I need.Thanks great video
Thank you great video and very informative 👍 you shared your knowledge and wasn’t selfish keeping to yourself like some trades men ,thanks pal 👍✊👌
How was the end of the liner connected to the stove pipe, plz?
lol ;) good video m8 very informative Cheers
Great vid, thanks for the very precise information, extremely helpful.
What should be done if the chimney has been removed where it comes out the roof? The chimney breast is still fully intact all the way from floor up to the roof just not out the roof.
Nice one!
hi buddy i tried do this last year i have 2 stacks leading to 1 in loft its 120 year old terreced house it seemed to get stuck i bedroom the builder said its the tethering and would have cut a hole in bedroom chimney is this correct by the way cool video
Hello Patterdale
Thanks for your kind comments of my video, if you have a minuet or 10 you should check out my others. Some good tips and products. :)
As to your question, sorry I'm going to ask some.
Did you get the chimney swept before starting any of the lining works? If not, I would start all over again with sweeping the chimney flue first. A good chimney sweep isn't just someone who comes round and sticks a brush up your chimney. They can be invaluable.
Do you have a flue nosecone to help get round those stubborn corners? if not I would recommend getting one and trying again. They can be great.
I have opened up chimneys in the past and will no doubt have to do it again some day but try everything before opening wall would be my advice.
Kind regards
Paul Ross
Thanks for getting back i borrowed my mate telescopic gutter inspector i it is clean just a light sooting i set it on fire with a load of pallet wood last year thats wat as damaged my tethering i seen all the way up i should be able to break into stackclose to ceiling in the loft i dont want damage flu it will be easy enogh in loft its boarded out so havin another go this weekend
Thanks for the info, as you have had a chimney fire in the past I would recommend you take a look out our new page on a product the can stop a chimney fire in under 30 seconds without using water. It is going online tomorrow.
Check the video out at the bottom of the linked page to show what is dose.
www.ubuyudo.com/chimfire-stop/
Remember be safe in all your endeavours.
Hi thanks for info i should be ok now i am using a flu line i dont think i will be using much wood it is a defra aproved inset fire my pops is gonna buy me a ton of coke biscuits smoke less there a company in manchester doing 20kg 5 pounds pickup only and even cheaper if you buy half ton gonna try brown irish peat get my logs stacked up in summer
i think i missed the part how u fit the register plate to the brackets
Question… if I’ve already got a chimney as the house was built with an open fire, why would I want to put a liner in..? Gas fire that was fitted just used existing chimney, not sure what the gain would be…🤔
Its amazing that all these homes with open fires were not littered with corpses because of toxic fumes ,If its your own home you don't need a liner just stick the flue in the chimney you will live
the liner is to help the fire draw better
Generally when house fires are started by open fires or stoves the fires tend to start in the loft, normally due an excessive buildup of soot, liners contain the potential fire with itself, more of precaution than anything else
how did you fix the register plate to the brackets?
Did this guy never find out about Tin Snips.
Through sheet steel? That would be painful.
Quality jigsaw and appropriate blade.
Can I replace a gas fire for a wood burner, using the same liner? My house was built in 1930 so the chimney was originally for a coal fire and would I have any issues getting it signed off, thanks
just watched your other video, question answered. one more though. does the liner still need swept every year?
kevin connolly sorry I missed the question until now.
Yes every year. think of it as a stove and liner MOT.
Kind regards
Paul Ross
Do all chimneys need to be swept before install?
Dropping the liner down the chimney without sweeping it could leave flammable material inside the chimney which would then become a fire risk when the stove is in use
Was there a chimney breast retained in the room above to allow the flute to travel up?
Even if there isn't you can build a fire rated 'fake' box around the flue pipe or convert the first floor section of flue to a rigid flue pipe and do the same. The chimney is usually the original 9 inch square brick flue for coal fires.
You mentioned what you did to attach the brackets to the wall for the register plate, but what did you use to attach the bracket to the register plate? many thanks
MotoManSam u shouldn’t use raw plug get some concrete screws . Drill the hole and the screws grab on the way in .
can do carry out a flue flow test on this type of stove fire and how would you do it?
wouldnt of minded seeing the fire cement around the stove pipe etc matey
Hi Ian
I please the fire cement around the stove pipe and collar within the stove above the baffle.
Regards
Paul Ross
@@paulR505 cheers mate top man!!
Hi any idea where I can get an old council installed fireplace removed I live in Lanarkshire Scotland it's a charnwell fire with back boiler
great vid, love it
As you know there are two types of liner a 904 and 316! Is there a way to tell difference between them?
Hi Paul. Although i've not yet bought my multi-fuel burner, as i'm working on the roof and my scaffolding is up, it seems a good time to fit the liner. My question is what size liner should I get?
5 inch as they are more flexible. But make sure you get a log burner for a 5 inch flue
you would not get away with doing that flu liner instalation in southern ireland without vermiculite pelets as a fire wall
john nugent ua-cam.com/video/ir8yFupNAao/v-deo.html
is it law that you must inform the council that you are fitting a woodburning stove if so do they inspect the work & check that the smoke doe;s not back draft to next doors flue
Hi Malcolm
The installation has to be notified to your local building control if you are in England and Wales. The works can be undertaken by yourself. l would allways then get it checked so it complys with the regs and its safe buy the regs and not a case of, it will do.
Your local building control may inspect it or request that you get it signed of buy a competent person. Remember your stove is like a little monster you now have to take care of or it will turn round and bite you on the ass.
Only do the work if you feel you can
Don't take risks with your health.
Buy all the equipment from one supplier, you can see a link in the video for what l recommend you buy from us or from some other supplier.
The paper trail needs to be there so others can see what's been fitted.
It is true that a lot of fitters will not work on others installation. If you buy the kit from me, l then know what has been fitted and l should be able to find the correct someone around your area to help you comply with your responsibility to local building contral and your own health and property.
One thing for anyone who reads my comments. If you have thrown the installation in or cut corners that little monster may have to be completely removed and then refitted, with completely new equipment so take your time, don't buy the cheapest equipment. You will be saving money doing it yourself so get the things that make it right.
Then you and your pet monster(stove) will have great times and memories.
T-care and be safe
Paul Ross
hi buddy after some advise changed my mind on inset fire getting a stove type with legs but i want sit it on my fire place and pipe out the back of stove i no i have put a concrete lintel in and registry plate in the stack i have the standard hole in the wall living flame iam going to solid pipe out the back of stove and brick it up do i just fit a registry plate over brick work directly behind fire a black one any advise thanks buddy
Hello Pattrerdale
Thank you for your comments.
Just the simple act of coming of the back of a stove can end up not being so simple. Maximum distance from stove, type of bends of flue and more have to be taken into account. My recommendation, call someone to come and look at the installation before starting any work and get the chimney sweep.
Hope this has help you.
Kind Regards
paul Ross
What is the flexible made from ? Looks like stainless steel
Yes
How many concrete tiles did you crack around the chimney-to-eaves area BTW.
Zero, but l knew l could get more if needed.
Kind regards
Paul