No sir....a zoner having a Full screen teleport is too much on top of a amored wakeup...and having kamoes give you invincibility on certain moves!??...if u wanna buff rain make his projectiles more effective to where it's a bit harder for the opponet to get in
I’ve taken inspiration from your loop combo. Just wanted to add that if you hit a standing 1 b4 calling sub for the freeze, it’s much more consistent in terms of landing the freeze. Great video ❤
The SubZ freeze is so good when it works, but it can be a bit finicky: - from 11 you need to immediately hit the air buttons for it to work - from 122 it doesn't freeze if you cancel to the popup from the overhead, only from the high bubble hit and if close enough - from B2 it doesn't freeze - from F21 it doesn't freeze if only the low hits, need both mid and low to hit - from F32 it always freezes
no you can get it to freeze most of the time it’s different timings for each string you need to look at the enemy as they fall and after the first bounce as soon as they start falling back you need to freeze it’s just frame perfect that’s why it’s hard
Here's a visibility check to see if sub zero summon will whiff.... if you check and see that the opponent is being juggled after launch well below the life bar just go for your geyser ender cos sub zero will whiff.. This check should be done upon jump... rain being slow sometimes has its advantahe of being able to hit confirm lots of things... this is one of them
The 1 1 confirm into the metered launch also tends to whiff subzero alot so if you you have conditioned your opponent really well with the forward 3 2 launch ... after 1 1 they may let go off block and then you sneak in and go for the more consistent meterless launch which rarely ever whiffs subzero... CONSISTENT DAMAGE IS WHAT WHAT GETS WINS NOT DROPPED COMBOS...
11 never whiffs if you hit your air buttons as early as possible, its a matter of when you hit the opponent in the air that determines whether sub will miss or not@@cudknacks
@@Mufire1991 not everyone has lightning reactions like yours ... the meterless launch pretty much never whiffs.. because the launch is right infront of you..the meterless launch is away from you... if the opponent isnt super close you may whiff.... always go for what's consistent you only go for flashy or inconsistent when the game is about to end.. that's how you get more wins..
I think the only real tech for that hard to block mixup is to find a guaranteed way to reduce the damage ... like in the case of Jax and Scorpion unblockable ... If the rain player begins to get lesser damage for that unblockable mixup they would be forced to cash in on the damage for 37 percent early and keep frame advantage than loosing pressure advantage in trying to go for the loop..
I saw someone using this last night and had a hard time doing it too. I found when you land you can quickly dash, do a stand 1 into freeze. It make air a lot easier!
Could you use jax's ground smash and rain's storm projectile at the same time for an unblockable? If the player jumps to avoid jax's ground smash, your aerial projectile will hit him. If it blocks your airial projectile, jax will cause damage.
You inspired me to play raid, i use scorpio kameo, specially because u can use it to start a combo with anything, jump 3-2 than scorpion cameo far, press 4, and follow it up ass you want. Also work with down 2, and down down up,
What do you think NRS could change to make rain a better zoner? At the moment I find that most of the cast can either teleport around rains projectiles or simply out zone him.
@@chrisclarke5652 100% weird though, how it's better on block than on hit. But it gives you something to aim for in a hitconfirm sense, on hit combo, on block portal, optimal.
Rain with Sub Zero is the only way i can play him as he gives rain great combo damage along with making his slow af moves viable. I hate though that there is only 1 kameo i like playing with him 😭
No you can use multiple kameos with him. I run primarily scorpion and cyrax do really well with them. But i can also use sub, and frost and do just fine.
@@Anbu_Tommygunz all good. I paired Rain with Darrius in the beginning as I enjoy using Darrius the most out of the Kameos but eventually switched to sub because sub covers rain's weak spots the best and now I find don't want to play him with anyone else
sub does make rain feel really good I'll be honest... I think he's probably my favourite too, but I want to get good at using ambush kameo attacks since it still doesn't feel natural to me
is this in fact unblockable? it seemed like that to me even though it should just be hard to block, but no matter what timing i tried i always got hit.
He’s actually fine the only thing he has going on is high damage. After how terrible he was in mk11 he deserves it. As far as opening your opponent up it’s kinda hard as Raiden. Whoever gets opened up easily is new or doesn’t know what Raiden does. If anyone ANYONE in this game that needs a massive nerf it’s SMOKE
@@JustANERD71still they need to nerf a Lot of characters fr Baraka is anoying with the cheap damage and raiden with 50% easy combos and a Lot of other characters have some cheap stuff
raiden wasnt even that bad in mk11? if you at tier lists towards the end of the game he was in a good spot.. and damage is not all he has.. He has 50/50s which are both safe, corner carry, plus frames, chip and amazing staggers.e @@JustANERD71
Well this confirms that Raiden still has one of my least favorite playstyles.....i just cant stand how he plays in every game. MKX might be an exception, but just barely lol
They need to give rains full screen teleport back so he can defend against broken characters or something he needs a teleport
yeah his portals are useless seems like he was made to be a zoner but he literally gets beat by everyone and kameos
No sir....a zoner having a Full screen teleport is too much on top of a amored wakeup...and having kamoes give you invincibility on certain moves!??...if u wanna buff rain make his projectiles more effective to where it's a bit harder for the opponet to get in
@@shap7296he’s perfectly usuable portal wise and overall I’m having no problem running rain
Yeah, Rain's teleport right now just sucks
@@wanted_melon2348 that’s inaccurate
I can never respect Raiden players.
Us Rain players do so much to just touch 40%, they just gotta use the same strings and get huge rewards.
They need to nerf him
Baraka tho. He don’t even play the game he just wins by chipping you out. 😳
Raiden isn't the only one who does that...
and ist so easy never drop it i brak my fking fingers to do 40% with asrah and no im not a noob
scorpion does alot of chipping damage like baraka
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Great content, some of my fav right now! Keep it up! 🙌
aye aye
They need to make Rain's bubble shield last a second or two longer. Raiden's charged projectile beats an anti-zoninf tool? Like wtf
yes please, and absorb more than like 2 projectile please. raiden and reiko don't even care that you put it up
Gurl the amount of abuse I suffer from Reiko players because of this, I swear…
I’ve taken inspiration from your loop combo. Just wanted to add that if you hit a standing 1 b4 calling sub for the freeze, it’s much more consistent in terms of landing the freeze. Great video ❤
ah ok cool thanks for the tip! Let's go harass some more mwahaha
Is it really? Tried to do it a bit yesterday and couldn’t get the sub freeze off consistently enough to bother trying it out
The SubZ freeze is so good when it works, but it can be a bit finicky:
- from 11 you need to immediately hit the air buttons for it to work
- from 122 it doesn't freeze if you cancel to the popup from the overhead, only from the high bubble hit and if close enough
- from B2 it doesn't freeze
- from F21 it doesn't freeze if only the low hits, need both mid and low to hit
- from F32 it always freezes
no you can get it to freeze most of the time it’s different timings for each string you need to look at the enemy as they fall and after the first bounce as soon as they start falling back you need to freeze it’s just frame perfect that’s why it’s hard
ay thanks man, this is a top tier comment. high information density appreciated 💯
You can land the freeze from back 2, just the timing is a little tricky.
More Rain and Sub-Zero please those mixups look kinda lovely
just for you ;)
Here's a visibility check to see if sub zero summon will whiff.... if you check and see that the opponent is being juggled after launch well below the life bar just go for your geyser ender cos sub zero will whiff..
This check should be done upon jump... rain being slow sometimes has its advantahe of being able to hit confirm lots of things... this is one of them
The 1 1 confirm into the metered launch also tends to whiff subzero alot so if you you have conditioned your opponent really well with the forward 3 2 launch ... after 1 1 they may let go off block and then you sneak in and go for the more consistent meterless launch which rarely ever whiffs subzero...
CONSISTENT DAMAGE IS WHAT WHAT GETS WINS NOT DROPPED COMBOS...
11 never whiffs if you hit your air buttons as early as possible, its a matter of when you hit the opponent in the air that determines whether sub will miss or not@@cudknacks
@@Mufire1991 not everyone has lightning reactions like yours ... the meterless launch pretty much never whiffs.. because the launch is right infront of you..the meterless launch is away from you... if the opponent isnt super close you may whiff.... always go for what's consistent you only go for flashy or inconsistent when the game is about to end.. that's how you get more wins..
I think the only real tech for that hard to block mixup is to find a guaranteed way to reduce the damage ... like in the case of Jax and Scorpion unblockable ... If the rain player begins to get lesser damage for that unblockable mixup they would be forced to cash in on the damage for 37 percent early and keep frame advantage than loosing pressure advantage in trying to go for the loop..
Why the hell is it so damn easy for Raiden to do 450 damage??? WTF
imma play him before they nerf it because I need to know what that feels like
Been using Sub as my kameo but I’m constantly dropping his freeze after I juggle the opponent in the air. Can’t seem to figure out the timing.
Try to do the air 243 as high as possible
I saw someone using this last night and had a hard time doing it too. I found when you land you can quickly dash, do a stand 1 into freeze. It make air a lot easier!
16:50 he's streaming i bet, name is a bit of a giveaway.
@ 7:38 what are u canceling into grab?
You can spend Sub-Zero freeze and instead of doing the set up u can cash out damage with charged projectile into charged 4 into any ender
true true, I just really wanted to test the potential of the set up as much as possible in this video
Could you use jax's ground smash and rain's storm projectile at the same time for an unblockable? If the player jumps to avoid jax's ground smash, your aerial projectile will hit him. If it blocks your airial projectile, jax will cause damage.
You inspired me to play raid, i use scorpio kameo, specially because u can use it to start a combo with anything, jump 3-2 than scorpion cameo far, press 4, and follow it up ass you want. Also work with down 2, and down down up,
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raid maids🛁
What do you think NRS could change to make rain a better zoner? At the moment I find that most of the cast can either teleport around rains projectiles or simply out zone him.
Just speed them up tbh
Should’ve just left him as a ninja made him a half baked zoner with a weak combo game not the rain people fell in love with
@@freshkid4964no.
@@freshkid4964he still got good combo potential with the right kameos like cyrax
I use subzero armor
7:36 bro you can do that
I try to setup one portal after ground tornado and one after a follow attack to move against zoner.
How the block rains overhead - low :
Leave the match or break your console or Nintendo switch
this is a good option, I'm making a video on how to beat it now maybe I'll include this
@@mralberonenfgc yeah make sure you tell them the break the console part cause that’s bout the only thing u can do👍🏾
How do you get the J243 to connect with the cameo?! I can’t get it to connect 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I miss the bubble move
me too.. I wanna pick ppl up and uppercut them!
I don't think spending the meter for the launcher is worth it given he can combo into the freeze without it.
I suppose, but I don't spend meter on anything except breaker so idk maybe I should just break tons
@@mralberonenfgc I think making breaker 3 bars just made sitting on meter the best strategy.
One Question: what does it mean with rains f 3 2 String, canceble on jump Hit. I test Some stuff but didnt get the answer 😄 maybe you can help me :)
"Abusing unblockable" as everyone he fought was able to fend it off. 😂
nice one !
Says alot when you said. Now its time for me to play the game 😅😅
Is there an advantage to canceling forward 2-1 into portal ?
Yes! It makes it -2 on block which is good to start forcing pokes or to just get a portal out safely
@@chrisclarke5652 100%
weird though, how it's better on block than on hit. But it gives you something to aim for in a hitconfirm sense, on hit combo, on block portal, optimal.
@@mralberonenfgc yes I agree at least it's a safe way to get a portal out on block and to at least try to use them lol
@@mralberonenfgc The frame data is weird for me. It doesnt show any frame advantage which is why I asked. Thank you!
Opinions on Blahaj?
If you use striker cameo you can do the same thing
At the end of the combo? Or by doing grenades into whirlpool?
Rain with Sub Zero is the only way i can play him as he gives rain great combo damage along with making his slow af moves viable. I hate though that there is only 1 kameo i like playing with him 😭
No you can use multiple kameos with him. I run primarily scorpion and cyrax do really well with them. But i can also use sub, and frost and do just fine.
@@Anbu_Tommygunz yes of course you can use multiple Kameos with him but I said I don't like using any other Kameos with him
@_gex oh ok I get it. My bad. I feel you. I tend to favor scorpion myself.
@@Anbu_Tommygunz all good. I paired Rain with Darrius in the beginning as I enjoy using Darrius the most out of the Kameos but eventually switched to sub because sub covers rain's weak spots the best and now I find don't want to play him with anyone else
sub does make rain feel really good I'll be honest... I think he's probably my favourite too, but I want to get good at using ambush kameo attacks since it still doesn't feel natural to me
1:14 😂😂
what is the starting string you are using? i cant figure it out
1, 44, db4(EX)
Cant wait for the balance patch so the TIDE WILL TURNs
I mean nerf raiden
is this in fact unblockable? it seemed like that to me even though it should just be hard to block, but no matter what timing i tried i always got hit.
Delayed wake up beats it.
Bro said you can block that I'm just not doing it for some reason 😂😂😂
I think hes streaming thats why hes talking since he has twitchtv in his name
They need to buff rain, in ranked is always a loss. Too slow and the teleport is useless. I like his gameplay but in ranked I can’t play with him.
i think raiden needs some nerfs tbh this is bs
He’s actually fine the only thing he has going on is high damage. After how terrible he was in mk11 he deserves it. As far as opening your opponent up it’s kinda hard as Raiden. Whoever gets opened up easily is new or doesn’t know what Raiden does. If anyone ANYONE in this game that needs a massive nerf it’s SMOKE
@@JustANERD71still they need to nerf a Lot of characters fr Baraka is anoying with the cheap damage and raiden with 50% easy combos and a Lot of other characters have some cheap stuff
raiden wasnt even that bad in mk11? if you at tier lists towards the end of the game he was in a good spot.. and damage is not all he has.. He has 50/50s which are both safe, corner carry, plus frames, chip and amazing staggers.e @@JustANERD71
Swear Raiden is the exodia character. Great vid tho.
I think rain god and the ground geyser are just too slow.
I wish rain god would do something interesting... the storm cloud animation is SO cool but its just another slow projectile 😭
@@mralberonenfgc yea I agree, it should raise you a little higher to avoid enemy projectiles too. I always get hit while I'm doin it.
Imagine being a raiden player and thinking you’re good
Well this confirms that Raiden still has one of my least favorite playstyles.....i just cant stand how he plays in every game. MKX might be an exception, but just barely lol
Raiden surely going to get nerfed. to be able to do 40-50% with 1 bar from a 8fr starter is absurd
You just gotta learn how to grab instead of keep doing combos when they block
You have a cute voice
well I play Rain
I know. I watched the video
people who play raiden + jax and think they are good. lmao
Wtf... you FREEZE him and make toilet + overhead... What's the point?
I can never beat Raiden with rain
Worked
It's not unblockable lol
It's a hard to block-able
Raiden is completely broken.
Delay wake up