@@McDADDyK Say, you want to download a movie off of a torrent site. It's not the VPN that comes after you - it's the ISP giving out your information to the copyright holders that comes after you.
@@shinhijikata3255 Even this won't last forever. Instead of going after ISPs the copyright owners will start going after VPN companies which will then lead them back to your ISP. At least where I live in the US the government has always been willing to create laws to help copyright owners go after infringers.
@@shinhijikata3255 So you've all been brainwashed and fallen for fearmongering by copywrite holders. If you had said you wanted to watch something that's region locked I would've understood. You might be young so might not know but VERY and I mean VERY few people have ever been chased up for illegally downloading stuff. Even then the people who did were then distributing it at a mass scale. There's a few documentaries on people who were sued millions for illegally downloading. The odds are less astronomically low. You downloading a movie or 1k of people doing it meanings nothing to these companies now that they have monthly subscriptions to everything. This isn't the 90s anymore guys.
Yes and no. Basically many VPNs are the Marvel "snapback and sunglasses" combo of blending in. They can do better and st least shouldn't advertise as so much more than they can reasonably guarantee.
@@lucasterable They are. It’s a game of whack-a-mole. The only VPNs that will reliably get you region locked content are employee-only VPNs run by certain tech companies (aka, Google / Amazon / Apple) because the streaming service providers might know that you are using a Google-owned IP but dare not block it no matter how much region-lock bypassing tech company employees might be doing.
I mean Disney+ for me won't even load if Im using a VPN. They could easily block that shit if they wanted to. Takes 2 seconds to see if you are running a VPN. Unless you want to start spoofing shit. Then everybody will be forced to use residential proxies.
Usually this breaches ToS of the content you're trying to view, which in a lot of cases is used as a selling point...I'm waiting for the big services to murder the VPN companies.
First impression of this channel . I like your voice. You're not yelling , desperately trying to convince the viewer , " That I got answers to your problem."
I've never thought that a Vpn provides any privacy or anonymity in any real sense. It's is only a way to access servers from the vpn in different global locations. Honestly I think the vpn craze is just another version of "let's get peoples money on vague promises and misunderstood tech."
Data encryption isn't misunderstood tech. This dumbass has links to two of the worst offenders for data breach VPNs in his vid description. Banking institutions that hold billions of dollars in client money don't use un-encrypted internet traffic to do business, why should you let your ISP data mine all your internet traffic? VPNs with no data logs is just that, the server is installed on RAM disk, and has no backup, if the server gets seized there is 0 chance of data breach, because the entire OS is contained on RAM, all data pertaining to the encrypted traffic going in/out of the server is gone.
@@JosephArata All VPN's are garbage, end of story. You understand what makes the vpn strong is also what makes it weak. I can force you to have micro stutters by flooding your router and it posts your real IP before it reports the VPN address as you reconnect to the internet. You won't even lose connection to your video game, and i'll have every thing i need to use your PC
"Independent" audits are like "independent" fact-checkers. Someone paying them to do so, and if the company don't get "expected" results then, that was your last "independent" job.
Yes and no. If there is no international certification or regulator requiring said independent audits in order to identify whether you meet certain criteria or not - there is no need to conduct such audits. And you would not, as a vpn company, as you don’t need to in order to conduct business.
I work in Food Industry, and it doesn't look like that. First: no matter how often they ensure you otherwise, the auditors HAVE TO FIND A NON-CONFORMITY. THey are going to look, until they find something is not right. Second: you are not their employer. The auditing company is, and it cares more about image of trustworthiness, than about one customer. If you have only minor non-conformities, you gonna pass, but you truly don't meet the criteria. They won't hesitate to not certifiy you. But, indeed, there is a big problem with knowing the exact date of audit. Unannounced audits do exist, in case of which you just get 4 - 6 month window, when the Auditors are giong to appear, but you can be sure, that if the company went for unannounced audits, they are going to put this information everywhere.
@@Ocato92 i also worked in the food industry and a: the auditor always find mistakes and b: money solves everything. In our case, we have rats, lots of rats and the british brc was a just toss some money
@@Ocato92 uhhhh… just ‘cause it doesn’t look like that in your one industry doesn’t mean that it doesn’t look like that. In food safety, the government pays the auditors and what the government wants them to find is safety violations, so they do. So actually, it literally does look like that. It’s just who is paying for the audit. If a VPN is paying for the audit, you’d better believe the auditing company won’t find any violations. If the government is auditing restaurants, you’d better believe they’ll find violations. At least in the government case the restaurants can lobby to have the auditors back off a bit. Or go to the public so that the voters tell the government to tell the auditors to back off a bit. The TL;DR is unless the government is paying for the audit, there’s no way to have a meaningful conversation about audit accuracy, they won’t be accurate, they will be hopelessly corrupt. Even if the government does pay for it, the temptation to corruption is very high.
Man, im not tech savvy in the slightest, but the way you present the infomation is amazing. Understood something i thought was extremly difficult to fathom. Thank's for the time & effort you put in to your content. Peace.
Man can we go back to when a VPN was used to access your LAN from the internet without exposing your entire local network infrastructure to the entire internet? Now when I tell people I have a VPN they think I'm talking about something entirely different...
Most people wouldn't understand the difference between "I run a vpn server so family members can access my network" and "I use a vpn to download illegal movies".
@@AllThingsSecured that's the power of marketing for you. VPN companies, presented with a reduction in interest of their products as regional restrictions became less and less of a thing, started thinking of reinventing themselves and came up with the idea of scamming the uneducated masses into believing they were going to "protect your privacy" and "protect you from phishing scams". Never mind that you accessing facebook and twitter through a VPN isn't going to prevent that personal information you post there for all the world to see from being seen by all the world. Or that all those tracking cookies will not end up in your browser and be able to identify you even if your ip address changes. If you read the fine print they don't promise that, they only promise in writing the only thing they can promise and that's that they swap your actual ip address for another one...
I have a bunch of people I need to send this video to. I've tried explaining this to them so many times. They're adamant that they need a VPN service to protect their privacy from all the tracking companies out there and prevent financial information from being stolen. One was absolutely convinced she needed a VPN to prevent credit card and bank account data from being stolen. Trying to explain that the data for her compromised credit card was stolen from a vendor with a data breach and NOT her internet connection was like bashing my head against the wall.
The only true "No Log" VPN is the one you built and setup yourself and specify it to do so. Can be easily done with something as small as any single-board computer, like a Raspberry Pi or any un-used desktop laying around. Only reason to use a VPN service provider is if you live in a very restrictive country like C H I N A, or simply want to be able to view geo-locked content. Also, any VPN, one that you built and setup or a service provider you use will not magically make you anonymous especially if you don't change anything with your browsing habits and use one browser for everything you do related to the internet. It's merely a layer that needs to be used with several other layers for it to be any effective at all.
Alas, even building one yourself won't help you. You need a network of random ones all across the globe(preferably) or at least across your state to have any semblance of 'anonymity'. Having just one would simply be a proxy/gateway and the ISP would still be able to easily track it.
Nobody uses VPN for this purpose in China, it's painfully slow and detected then blocked very fast. More stealth and efficient protocols are used, such as shadowsocks and vmess.
A very well put together argument that doesn't just boil down to "it's useless to use," or something like that. A VPN service _can_ have its uses, but not in the way all the random sponsored UA-camrs are claiming it to be.
I mean, in reality if someone is seeking to use a vpn for legit total privacy/secrecy, its not overly difficult to create a completely new online persona, using a throwaway phone in someone elses name, a burner email, etc. the issue then comes down to said persons self awareness and discipline to behave differently while under that persona. granted, this would take knowledge of how to accomplish this etc. but a vpn can be utilized for obfuscation. Also, at the end of this video there was an expressvpn ad 😂
At the same time, just because I'm logged into Google doesn't mean Google knows who I am. My First Name is Captain, and my last name is Obvious. I live at 123 Sesame Street in New York. Behind a VPN, I still have a degree of anonymity. Using a VPN correctly can allow you to achieve a degree of anonymity that you otherwise wouldn't have without one. You're forgetting this is a one-sided argument, and all the information presented in this video is to bolter that one side.
Plus, it's foolish to think, even without the VPN disclosing logs, that you're anonymous. Sure, your IP can't be traced directly back to you, but there are many other ways companies track your online behavior. Unless you're only browsing a single site at a time, and clearing cookies before you open a new site, your cookies are betraying you. And that's just to start.
Excellent video. I've been contacted by VPN Sponsor multiple times... However, I can never promote or review VPNs knowing the truth... My biggest gripe is the advertising of "hide your IP or identity" promo. Other youtubers advertise this as if it's 100% true that no logs are recorded; which is a bit irresponsible. Anyway, great job on making this video.
Be real, anyone who cares so much about "privacy" wouldnt be on the internet or a computer to start with, they'd be living in a hole in the ground in the middle of the woods drinking rainwater or rivers, eating plants and lost hikers
Interesting theory. I think there’s definitely a line you can easily cross into paranoia, but it’s also responsible to be aware of what happens to your data.
I don't agree but it reminds of a line in a CIA movie where a retired agent tells the other guys that this 'Micro Chip' thing or the 'secret code' are usually not saved on anything digital but on paper or something that can be destroyed without traceable evidence because the digital world will always leve a footprint.
Apparently authorities investigating a murder of a ambassador broke through TOR and traced their suspect to a expressvpn server. The authorities seized the server, but it did them no good because there were no logs.
Yup, that’s true, and ExpressVPN is very proud of this. I’m not saying that every VPN logs data that can be used against you, I’m simply pointing out that until those FBI requests come through, you’ll never know for sure. You’re putting all your trust in a centralized entity.
Express and PIA both have had real cases and encounters with court orders or authorities where they have proven to not log or to keep whatever they log about you secure. These are the only two I know. It does not imply others do not live up to what they promise in their privacy policies, it's simply inconclusive without testing.
@@AllThingsSecured I'm sure they are proud, but I've never seen a expressvpn commercial or sales pitch involving the investigation. My guess is that they are afraid of making a murderer the face of their company and/or claims of milking someones death to sell subscriptions.
It's called The Pirates Bay, everything you could ever want for free! Pick the cheapest VPN you can find & download with immunity! Heck even FREE vpn's like hotspot shield are sufficient for torrenting. Never pay for content again.
Wow finally! Someone actually made a video about false advertising VPNs. I was cringing the whole time when some youtubers say something like "are you sick of your ISP knowing all about your network traffic?". Yeah... I'm sick of it so I need to make a 3rd party VPN know all about my traffic 🙃
A good VPN doesn't store your browsing information. The privacy policy that this UA-camr read also didn't mention it. Of course, they have to keep your session information and app diagnostic data but does it really matter if they do?
‘We never log internet usage/IP’ is what’s most important I think. The fact that they store your payment and use connection details seems like pretty useless information to anyone subpoena/tracking you. Sure they might then know your computer was online, but wouldn’t have info on where and what it was connected to. It’s like you are saying your blinds don’t offer privacy because you can see still the lights are on.
If you're a target, they can easily tell what server you've connected to without having to subpoena a VPN. When you hear about this nowadays, it's more of a CYA thing - "doing their due diligence" rather than actually expecting to find anything useful.
@@mikkj1 “Easily see which server you’re connected to”, as in which vpn server you are routed through? My understanding is that’s as far as they could go. What is CYA?
@@markoshun CYA = cover your a** In other words doing stuff just so that no one can claim that you didn't do enough. And, you're correct, they can only tell what server you've connected to. If they get the data from a "no log" VPN, that's all they'll get as well, since they don't log where you went.
oh, they log your ip all over the place. They just don't log it in direct relation with the data you send over their network. What they do is they log the relation between your ip and the ip they assign you. And then log the incoming data (from and to you) to your ip and the outgoing data (from and to that new ip address) to that ip address. It's just one simple SQL query away from linking everything together, but on paper they don't log the actual network traffic.
@@jwenting I don't know of any of the actual "no log" VPN's that log your outgoing destination. All they log is for server usage, traffic balancing, etc. If they're logging what server you're connecting to, then they're not even secure, let alone "no log".
I work in IT, and I've definitely had people ask me why I don't use a VPN, and this video sums it up pretty well. A VPN isn't a privacy tool, and unless you run your own VPN it never will be. It's good for seeing geo-locked content, but that's it, and even today a lot of websites are able to recognise when you're using a VPN and not deliver you the content
It's good for getting around ISP enforcement as well if that's an issue for you. My old ISP detected ANY use for torrent as potentially illegal activity, so I do all my (very minimal) torrent needs over a VPN these days despite moving to a less stupid ISP.
And i'm an IT and say the complete opposite. VPNs are extremely useful for a lot of things. It blocks throttling from your ISP. It block ISPs from seeing what you do, i know people who received legal binding letters just for torrenting. It enables you to access websites that are blocked in your country. It gives you more security, when i was in a trip with friends, everyone who used the airbnb's wifi had their credit card info taken, except me because i had a vpn. It also adds a layer of anonymity online. A vpn alone isn't enough, but still a required to ensure anonymity.
@@DanishTroll87 I call BS on the credit card information thing. If you're in IT you should know absolutely 100% that your credit card details will be passed over a connection encrypted. What's more likely is that your friends withdraw from an ATM with a skimmer fitted to it. Or put their card info into a phishing website
@@SinisterPixel AFAIK banking apps don't have their own connection. And if you're an IT, then you should know you can still access a person's phone even if encrypted; especially if they are using YOUR connection.
Just use Surfshark, best VPN out there. And it absolutely matters where a VPN is located. Privacy Policy: Not a single thing is kept or logged, you can have many people use the same account at the same time, no limitations. You can opt out of Diagnostics reports. The only thing that might warrant information collecting is a warrant, and good luck forcing a warrant on a VPN company based in the British Virgin Islands. The only 'people' that know you're using a VPN is your ISP, but they will never know what you are doing with your VPN. What's sad is that companies like ExpressVPN and NordVPN and PIA are popular while not being actually good or worth the price.
I do gardening work to finance my college fees and most of what we do is make company grounds (parking lots, flower beds etc) look nice for independent audits. Now, I know what the place looks like 364 days of the year, as I have seen the "before picture", so I can say with certainty that audits don't mean anything. Cleaning up once for a good look is cheaper than maintaining it.
Most people are probably saying right now who is Paris Hilton because he ain’t done nothing in years. I mean for the period of time she was in the public guy it was cringe worthy but she was a kid young and wild. Anyway 100% of humans I like Paris Hilton for time.
For two years I was paying for a European-based VPN, with lots of options. Then I decided to stop being a good torrenter (@1.4 share ratio), and become a leech - dumping my VPN, and disconnecting from torrents as soon as they finished downloading. Three years later, I'm still downloading torrents sometimes, and disconnecting - and my ISP has never sent me a single warning about it. So, the only downside to no VPN is that I can't access region-locked stuff. Which is what torrents are for. :)
I was refused access to an American news site because I am in Britain. I tried again using a VPN with a New Jersey address. They refused me access again saying 'you're using a VPN, you're not in New Jersey, you're in Britain'.
DAmn! And me here in the USA watches British news because all the news here is agenda driven fake crap! You all have much more accurate news than we do here in the USA! Sky News in Australia is the clear winner for news accuracy though!
Yeah sometimes using a VPN does not work. There are many sites that refuses to work if you switch over to a VPN. And if you turn it off then it works again. Which kinda defeats the point in paying for it.
* Any ‘public’ VPN is open to the same forms of abuse and intrusion. Only if you host *both* ends of the VPN (e.g. at a foreign relative’s house) can it be secure - until it leaves their property and goes onto ‘their’ public internet.
FEAR SELLS, people are just scared and feel protected by some other force even if they have to pay for it, kinda like religious without paying for it but still controling
I stick with Nord. I know it isn’t possible to be totally anonymous online, I just want to be walled off from creeps & thieves when on networks that aren’t mine or don’t know what their settings or who else is on them are. Plus some public WiFi networks block entertainment streaming services and the VPN gets around that.
This is what you need you understand as a privacy conscientious person. There is no such thing as privacy on the internet or on any smart device or any type of technology for that fact. Everything you do with technology in today's world is monitored and your info is stored somewhere and sold to someone somewhere. That's the end all be all about privacy. There is none
VPN services are definitely useful, but yeah, their "total privacy" marketing angle always rubbed me the wrong way. If you're on the internet, you're not anonymous, period. And you don't really need to be, either. The main dangers and inconveniences you're exposed to are a) your ISP being ordered to give out your information because some legal firm wants to slap your wrist for torrenting (do people still do that?) copyrighted material (VPNs kinda-sorta help, but aren't a perfect protection here) b) not being able to access region locked content (VPNs may help here) c) a service you left your personal information with being compromised (VPNs decidedly do not help here) d) you falling for a scam (same) So, yeah, you can run as many layers of redirects as you want, if you send that Nigerian prince your bank information or use the same password everywhere, you're not a tiny bit safer. Of course, if you're the next big thing in South American drug operations or kill people for a living, some government agency might be interested in you (and even then, a VPN won't cut it) - but barring that, no one is going to care about your traffic, only about your data. And chances are that's already floating around somewhere.
Can we at least agree that we're not looking for true "no-log" or absolute anonymity, but a good commercial VPN, not used by itself but also combined with other privacy practices such as using privacy-focused browsers/search engines, tracker/cookie/script blocking extensions, manually opting out of the data collection of services, etc. does provide increased anonymity&privacy by decompartmentalizing and obfuscating than not having any protection at all?
Here is the privacy policy of the internet: You don't have any. It's really that simple. There are ways to obfuscate, but that is it. I mean, the fact is, you have an IP address for a reason....you are passing information about yourself in order to just use the internet - even if the VPN were truly "no log" - you are not fully anonymous. Good video.
I have a VPN and everything I search for shows up on Face Book trying to get me to buy it. For instance. I was looking for saddle bags. When I went to face book the ads were full of saddle bags. Save your money.
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As a paranoid schizophrenic paying extra for my country's proven privacy focused ISP and a good VPN is an easy choice. Sometimes depending on how fucked up I am a certain week I use TOR and Tails OS on a burner laptop in McDonald's. It's hard work being mentally ill.
It is a lot better than this video implies. As long as you know its limitations but it does: 1) Prevent web sites you visit from seeing your IP address (use incognito mode to hide cookies) 2) Prevent your ISP from seeing the web sites you visit 3) Zero logging of VP IP to ISP IP address, to even the VPN cannot resolve historic mappings
6:19 "If you're trying to use VPN to do something illegal DON'T", I think a better phrase would be just to say "If you're trying to do something illegal DON'T".
Very well stated. Still, if a VPN (let's use NordVPN for simplicity) doesn't log anything except timestamps for when you're connected to the service-which are then deleted soon after disconnecting-how is this not effectively a cloak of anonymity? Of course, this trusts and assumes that their statements regarding logging is completely true, and that no admins secretly log other info. Still, I trust a VPN that I get to choose more than an ISP (of which choice is very little) that may be required whether by law or by policy to log certain things.
The point is that if they’re logging your connection - even for 15 minutes - it’s not ZERO LOGS. And you have to trust that they’re going to do what they say they’re going to do with your data.
@@AllThingsSecured You're right. It's not Zero Logs, and that really is false advertising. There's a lot of people that say that commercial VPN's are pretty useless though, at least from a privacy standpoint. I'm thinking that surely a VPN with few to no logs would be better than without it, but I'm still trying to formulate my final opinions.
vpns are the honey pot for countries monitoring traffic, they are the most information rich sources among those feeling it increases safety/anonymity. THEE HONEY POT!
If you try hard to hide your activity, you'll just make yourself a more interesting target to the people you want to hide from. It's like going out in the street with a gas mask in order to not being identified. Sure, people won't see your face, but the authorities will be suspicious and want to know what's up.
@Virus sploit No there are not, are you stupid? We're talking totalitarian countries like N. Korea and other dictatorships in Africa, SEA and Venezuela. They need to use Tor and triple their protection else they literally get sent to jail and executed for reporting their countries tyranny.
In some parts of the world, using a VPN actually raises suspicion about you -- the exact opposite you'd want. It's like Frodo putting on the Ring; he becomes invisible to some, but he becomes very visible to others, some of which might be even more dangerous.
"I'll mention some vpns in the description below".....and he just mentions the same 2 vpns he was shilling in the video. Nothing more than a thinly veiled marketing video for his sponsors.
@@kickassamd I advertise NordVPN cause it's the most profitable to advertise & their privacy standards aren't actually that bad. But I think the best VPN is WeVPN but it's just not as mainstream. Personally thats what I use, HOWEVER I only use it for downloading free stuff & pretty much ANY VPN will work with that & not give my data to copyright holders. Realistically we don't need the privacy we think we do, but more privacy is *always* better!
@@Zaptosis you advertise them the same reason every other UA-camr does. $$$$$$$$$$$$$. I’ll Stick to services that don’t shell out money in dump trucks to youtubers.
Josh, I wrote a paper (unpublished) about the myths and truths of VPN services. I work as a forensics (CSA). Take my word for this, there are NO safe VPN's. Period. Privacy is a myth. Here's why: In a recent infection investigation with law enforcement, the victim was using two types of VPN's, Tor and Nord. Both are complete hazards-each different in their problems. With Nord we found Telemetry leaks. We also found Telemetry leaks with Windows and Linux too. Tor Browser despite their improved header has some unique issues. Tor routes are controlled by routers that are hostile. What we found in the background egress servers could only amount to "captured privacy" . While it might be true that VPN services do not log your data, the egress servers do. We were able to sniff all services offered including TOR by using a non destructive bot stream to the attacker that has a RSA above six K. We were able to pair into the other guy's stream by capturing the handshakes and rolling with the hosts key's. Using this process we have concluded that VPN's with the right technology were spyable. Then on the other end, we saw the Microsoft Telemetry issue. If you block the telemetry data or change windows to where they cannot read their proprietary microsoft telemetry, here comes a Microsoft investor ready to cancel your Key's. You can battle allegations of piracy too. VPN's do not block telemetry or app telemetry. There is no privacy, except through the system I described above. It is a tunnel that blocks all outbound telemetry, but requires quantums and massive super stacks. It's been online for 9 years and has never been discovered ro hacked.
Lol people are silly to think they’re hidden. Same goes for phones they didn’t design these phones for our leisure they were designed to keep an eye on us.
I will routinely turn on network logging/tracing. I don’t look for data packets, but routing information as my job involves debugging connectivity issues. I also use VPN to avoid geolocation censorship.
The VPN company has to know who you are. That's inevitable. The question is always whether they'll give that information out. Unless you're doing something criminal, they probably won't. It's in your VPN's best interest not to care what you're doing unless they have to.
Thanks for taking the time to explain this in a clear and concise manner. My anti-virus provider is hopping on the bandwagon of pushing VPN as another security measure. However, after doing some research, I realized that I don’t need it and their added service is not one of the better providers if I should need this service. You confirmed what I always understood the function of VPN’s which you have explained very well in your other videos. I would recommend to everyone to look at your other videos which covers all the essential aspects of VPN’s and why one is necessary and when they are not.
I have said the same things before and been laughed at for saying it. People will believe what they want to believe, it doesnt matter how obviously wrong their beliefs are.
I never thought of a VPN as an absolute privacy tool. I think of it as a security tool for those times when I have to use a wi-fi connection of unknown reputation, such as at a hotel in a foreign country I happen to be visiting, or even a coffee shop in my own town. I don't trust the security of a well known VPN in any absolute sense, but I do trust them more than these totally unknown channels. Also I use a VPN to watch UK Netflix from the US.
I use ExpressVPN and I'm okay with the minimal data they log as it's nothing personally identifiable. Obviously there has to be some sort of saved info for the service to work, but so long as the info that is saved isn't incriminating (just in case I find myself looking at something illegal that I didn't intend), I'm fine with it.
Thanks again for a great video. My question is did he make his bed and if so how did you train him? Still working on my 13 year old to do that lol. Even with the random time checks
I was looking for a video on this topic. Found yours and it was clear, concise and easy to understand. Thanks! And, good job! You now have a new subscriber.
Thank you. I use a non-US VPN to slow down any US interference. I want to make that harder for the thought police. My web and email hosting are also off-shore. I am not doing anything illegal, but as you mentioned, I am opposed to censorship, mostly from my own government and social media. VPN is a great tool for helping me get another perspective. I desire to know more information on a subject so I can decide. If I do not see the other side, how would I be able to make up my mind.
It's not their fault? These UA-camrs are just peddling these VPN providers to get paid. They are falsely claiming what the VPN can do. We should be able to sue these UA-camrs as well.
I see using a VPN like going to places by a bus, rather than your car. People can still track you, or notice you at a seedy bar, but they won't notice your car outside, and can't track you via your car's gps. If you use something like TOR, that would be like not bringing your phone, and wearing a disguise; very incognito, but still possible to see through.
you also stick out since not many people are wearing disguises. and the guy you left your phone with might rat you out. tor is honestly worse than nothing.
Noop, that is not right at all. Switzerland will cooperate even better with official demands come from country authorities like U.S.A. It all depends on who is asking for info and why.
@@ghlscitel6714 You are bothering yourself too much. When it comes to security, there is not much a difference between countries, specially those who have common internets. I didn't mean to put Switzerland down but just commenting on a fact. There are national agreements between counties for security and data transformation. Nothing would override these cooperation when there is a need. Switzerland plays exactly the same rule as any other country would do if not even better. That's all.
The audit you are refering to is an ISAE300 control report. Such a report, provided that it is a type 2 report, has tested the efficiency over a period of time, typically one year, not at a moment in time.
Do you know of a webpage where an internet user who isn't a total noob, but also isn't super-tech-savvy, could find some comprehendible instructions on how to set up their own VPN with equipment that they own? Thanks. Edit: Don't worry, I just found a video posted by 'Wolfgang's Channel' on how to do it, & the vid was right here on YT! Doh!
I very much appreciate your no-nonsense approach to this topic. You hit all the right points and you do it in a way that adds the correct amount of emphasis on what is important and what someone should be using a VPN for. Generally speaking, anyone should be able to be on the internet with any device and never have to use or consider a VPN but this world is far from perfect and despite people with nefarious intent by and large the worst users of internet traffic and it's data are companies who wish to profit from that data. Good video. I liked and subscribed. Thank you for your time and effort.
(5:25) It’s like when I worked for a Meat Market. We got 4 hour advanced notice before any health inspector was coming so that’s when we made things look good.
The only reason in my mind why someone should invest in subscribing to a VPN service is to block the ISP (yours or some random free Wi-Fi network at the coffee shop) to see what the hell you are up to. Everything else is a pure marketing gimmick.
Part of that logged stuff is the VPN company's website rather than the actual VPN service itself, ie IP address and cookies. It is possible to switch logging off at the VPN server level or just bin it everyday as they get shed loads of this stuff if you imagine how many connections they get.
Honestly though I never into fight for privacy stuff. I honestly don't care that companies collecting my non credentials data or non sensitive data as long as my user experience is not affected. In this day and age I prefer convenience than full privacy.
It is not about convenience, lucky you that all you have to worry about is that. A lack of privacy allows an ex spouse-employer-friend Anyone you do not want to know your business to know it. It can destroy a life and has mine.
@@gigigigi9479 I'm guessing that's because of social media? I don't see just browsing on the internet without some protection would let your friends/employer knows what you're doing. Unless they have access your device directly or you publicly share what are you doing on the internet.
If a VPN was truly private and you were untraceable, it would be abused by criminals to no end... And im sure it is to some degree right now. That being said, it can be used in combination with other things to increase your anonimity
I've always assumed the VPN knows everything I'm doing - I'm just trying to make sure my ISP doesn't.
Makes sense.
But why?
@@McDADDyK Say, you want to download a movie off of a torrent site. It's not the VPN that comes after you - it's the ISP giving out your information to the copyright holders that comes after you.
@@shinhijikata3255 Even this won't last forever. Instead of going after ISPs the copyright owners will start going after VPN companies which will then lead them back to your ISP. At least where I live in the US the government has always been willing to create laws to help copyright owners go after infringers.
@@shinhijikata3255 So you've all been brainwashed and fallen for fearmongering by copywrite holders. If you had said you wanted to watch something that's region locked I would've understood.
You might be young so might not know but VERY and I mean VERY few people have ever been chased up for illegally downloading stuff. Even then the people who did were then distributing it at a mass scale. There's a few documentaries on people who were sued millions for illegally downloading.
The odds are less astronomically low. You downloading a movie or 1k of people doing it meanings nothing to these companies now that they have monthly subscriptions to everything. This isn't the 90s anymore guys.
Expecting privacy on the internet is like expecting invisibility walking down a busy street. Sad but true.
Agreed. It’s simply not possible.
I believe the idea is not to be invisible but to not stand out and look unique.
Venetians achieved some form of anonymity walking down a busy street some centuries back.
If encryption is a mathematical equation, & all commercial internet encryption is limited to a certain level, I guess not
Yes and no. Basically many VPNs are the Marvel "snapback and sunglasses" combo of blending in.
They can do better and st least shouldn't advertise as so much more than they can reasonably guarantee.
Let's be honest here. Almost everyone who uses a VPN does it because they want to get past region locked content.
@Christopher I P those are all blacklisted and blocked. Wonder why these high profile VPNs aren't blocked as well...
@@lucasterable They are. It’s a game of whack-a-mole. The only VPNs that will reliably get you region locked content are employee-only VPNs run by certain tech companies (aka, Google / Amazon / Apple) because the streaming service providers might know that you are using a Google-owned IP but dare not block it no matter how much region-lock bypassing tech company employees might be doing.
I mean Disney+ for me won't even load if Im using a VPN. They could easily block that shit if they wanted to. Takes 2 seconds to see if you are running a VPN. Unless you want to start spoofing shit. Then everybody will be forced to use residential proxies.
@@szymex8341 I rather should say it basically takes 2 seconds. Unless you are using a private VPN it all gets detected pretty quicky.
Usually this breaches ToS of the content you're trying to view, which in a lot of cases is used as a selling point...I'm waiting for the big services to murder the VPN companies.
First impression of this channel . I like your voice. You're not yelling , desperately trying to convince the viewer , " That I got answers to your problem."
Easy: Just quit the Internet and let's live with squirrel friends.
That ought to do it :)
@@AllThingsSecured worked for me.
Plot twist: Squirrels run the deep web
You mean quit porn?
Or use dvpn like sentinel lite
I've never thought that a Vpn provides any privacy or anonymity in any real sense. It's is only a way to access servers from the vpn in different global locations. Honestly I think the vpn craze is just another version of "let's get peoples money on vague promises and misunderstood tech."
Data encryption isn't misunderstood tech. This dumbass has links to two of the worst offenders for data breach VPNs in his vid description. Banking institutions that hold billions of dollars in client money don't use un-encrypted internet traffic to do business, why should you let your ISP data mine all your internet traffic? VPNs with no data logs is just that, the server is installed on RAM disk, and has no backup, if the server gets seized there is 0 chance of data breach, because the entire OS is contained on RAM, all data pertaining to the encrypted traffic going in/out of the server is gone.
@@JosephArata All VPN's are garbage, end of story. You understand what makes the vpn strong is also what makes it weak. I can force you to have micro stutters by flooding your router and it posts your real IP before it reports the VPN address as you reconnect to the internet. You won't even lose connection to your video game, and i'll have every thing i need to use your PC
@@tracemyers1275 no you can't lol.
Kinda getting that vibe to, all of it is sort of getting exhausting
Are VPNs gluten-free?
I usually leave my VPN in an area I can't speak the language. It makes the ads I see less effective if I can't understand them
Haha! 😂
"Independent" audits are like "independent" fact-checkers. Someone paying them to do so, and if the company don't get "expected" results then, that was your last "independent" job.
Great way to say it.
Yes and no. If there is no international certification or regulator requiring said independent audits in order to identify whether you meet certain criteria or not - there is no need to conduct such audits. And you would not, as a vpn company, as you don’t need to in order to conduct business.
I work in Food Industry, and it doesn't look like that. First: no matter how often they ensure you otherwise, the auditors HAVE TO FIND A NON-CONFORMITY. THey are going to look, until they find something is not right. Second: you are not their employer. The auditing company is, and it cares more about image of trustworthiness, than about one customer. If you have only minor non-conformities, you gonna pass, but you truly don't meet the criteria. They won't hesitate to not certifiy you.
But, indeed, there is a big problem with knowing the exact date of audit. Unannounced audits do exist, in case of which you just get 4 - 6 month window, when the Auditors are giong to appear, but you can be sure, that if the company went for unannounced audits, they are going to put this information everywhere.
@@Ocato92 i also worked in the food industry and a: the auditor always find mistakes and b: money solves everything. In our case, we have rats, lots of rats and the british brc was a just toss some money
@@Ocato92 uhhhh… just ‘cause it doesn’t look like that in your one industry doesn’t mean that it doesn’t look like that. In food safety, the government pays the auditors and what the government wants them to find is safety violations, so they do. So actually, it literally does look like that. It’s just who is paying for the audit. If a VPN is paying for the audit, you’d better believe the auditing company won’t find any violations. If the government is auditing restaurants, you’d better believe they’ll find violations. At least in the government case the restaurants can lobby to have the auditors back off a bit. Or go to the public so that the voters tell the government to tell the auditors to back off a bit.
The TL;DR is unless the government is paying for the audit, there’s no way to have a meaningful conversation about audit accuracy, they won’t be accurate, they will be hopelessly corrupt. Even if the government does pay for it, the temptation to corruption is very high.
Man, im not tech savvy in the slightest, but the way you present the infomation is amazing. Understood something i thought was extremly difficult to fathom.
Thank's for the time & effort you put in to your content.
Peace.
This is exactly the kind of comment I LOVE to see. Thanks so much!
This video's title should be 'The reality of VPN'. Good job.
Thanks so much.
@@AllThingsSecured I like your style of explaining.
lmao no, it should be "how to misinform novice computer users"
Man can we go back to when a VPN was used to access your LAN from the internet without exposing your entire local network infrastructure to the entire internet? Now when I tell people I have a VPN they think I'm talking about something entirely different...
That said, I appreciate your well thought out and straight to the point videos, and these comments are for the algorithm. Keep it up!
That’s a great point! It’s so fascinating how the generally understood meaning of the term “VPN” has evolved over the past decade. Crazy.
Most people wouldn't understand the difference between "I run a vpn server so family members can access my network" and "I use a vpn to download illegal movies".
@@AllThingsSecured that's the power of marketing for you. VPN companies, presented with a reduction in interest of their products as regional restrictions became less and less of a thing, started thinking of reinventing themselves and came up with the idea of scamming the uneducated masses into believing they were going to "protect your privacy" and "protect you from phishing scams".
Never mind that you accessing facebook and twitter through a VPN isn't going to prevent that personal information you post there for all the world to see from being seen by all the world. Or that all those tracking cookies will not end up in your browser and be able to identify you even if your ip address changes. If you read the fine print they don't promise that, they only promise in writing the only thing they can promise and that's that they swap your actual ip address for another one...
ok boomer
I have a bunch of people I need to send this video to. I've tried explaining this to them so many times. They're adamant that they need a VPN service to protect their privacy from all the tracking companies out there and prevent financial information from being stolen. One was absolutely convinced she needed a VPN to prevent credit card and bank account data from being stolen. Trying to explain that the data for her compromised credit card was stolen from a vendor with a data breach and NOT her internet connection was like bashing my head against the wall.
A VPN is probably more likely to expose your financial data to criminals than your ISP anyway.
@@cgsec2275 HOW SO?
@@judithnicholais1492 it’s not, vpns work fine and I bet most people liking this video also use one
The only true "No Log" VPN is the one you built and setup yourself and specify it to do so. Can be easily done with something as small as any single-board computer, like a Raspberry Pi or any un-used desktop laying around. Only reason to use a VPN service provider is if you live in a very restrictive country like C H I N A, or simply want to be able to view geo-locked content. Also, any VPN, one that you built and setup or a service provider you use will not magically make you anonymous especially if you don't change anything with your browsing habits and use one browser for everything you do related to the internet. It's merely a layer that needs to be used with several other layers for it to be any effective at all.
Exactly. One layer among many.
VPN’s are now less common in China now. The Great fire wall had developed a pattern for detecting VPN, and can easily ban it.
Alas, even building one yourself won't help you. You need a network of random ones all across the globe(preferably) or at least across your state to have any semblance of 'anonymity'. Having just one would simply be a proxy/gateway and the ISP would still be able to easily track it.
VPNs can let you torrent without annoying emails and letters from the ISP.
Nobody uses VPN for this purpose in China, it's painfully slow and detected then blocked very fast. More stealth and efficient protocols are used, such as shadowsocks and vmess.
A very well put together argument that doesn't just boil down to "it's useless to use," or something like that. A VPN service _can_ have its uses, but not in the way all the random sponsored UA-camrs are claiming it to be.
Thanks for the kind words.
Thank you Josh for being a superman , helping a senior citizen know what to do and not do, what to watch for. Thank you.
My pleasure!
That kills me when people use google and are logged into it. Yet use a VPN. As if companies don't realize who you are already and search history lol
But it’s a common misconception!!
I use a VPN for my ISP
A vpn is so some schmuck at the next table in your coffee shop can’t see what you are doing.
I mean, in reality if someone is seeking to use a vpn for legit total privacy/secrecy, its not overly difficult to create a completely new online persona, using a throwaway phone in someone elses name, a burner email, etc. the issue then comes down to said persons self awareness and discipline to behave differently while under that persona. granted, this would take knowledge of how to accomplish this etc. but a vpn can be utilized for obfuscation.
Also, at the end of this video there was an expressvpn ad 😂
At the same time, just because I'm logged into Google doesn't mean Google knows who I am. My First Name is Captain, and my last name is Obvious. I live at 123 Sesame Street in New York. Behind a VPN, I still have a degree of anonymity. Using a VPN correctly can allow you to achieve a degree of anonymity that you otherwise wouldn't have without one. You're forgetting this is a one-sided argument, and all the information presented in this video is to bolter that one side.
Plus, it's foolish to think, even without the VPN disclosing logs, that you're anonymous.
Sure, your IP can't be traced directly back to you, but there are many other ways companies track your online behavior. Unless you're only browsing a single site at a time, and clearing cookies before you open a new site, your cookies are betraying you. And that's just to start.
Excellent video. I've been contacted by VPN Sponsor multiple times... However, I can never promote or review VPNs knowing the truth... My biggest gripe is the advertising of "hide your IP or identity" promo. Other youtubers advertise this as if it's 100% true that no logs are recorded; which is a bit irresponsible. Anyway, great job on making this video.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! It’s a fine line we have to walk when it comes to VPNs, that’s for sure.
@@AllThingsSecured Sure thing. Good content should always be praised. 👍😁
Be real, anyone who cares so much about "privacy" wouldnt be on the internet or a computer to start with, they'd be living in a hole in the ground in the middle of the woods drinking rainwater or rivers, eating plants and lost hikers
Interesting theory. I think there’s definitely a line you can easily cross into paranoia, but it’s also responsible to be aware of what happens to your data.
@@AllThingsSecured Of course, no argument on that front
Mmmmm lost hikers
I don't agree but it reminds of a line in a CIA movie where a retired agent tells the other guys that this 'Micro Chip' thing or the 'secret code' are usually not saved on anything digital but on paper or something that can be destroyed without traceable evidence because the digital world will always leve a footprint.
Apparently authorities investigating a murder of a ambassador broke through TOR and traced their suspect to a expressvpn server. The authorities seized the server, but it did them no good because there were no logs.
Yup, that’s true, and ExpressVPN is very proud of this. I’m not saying that every VPN logs data that can be used against you, I’m simply pointing out that until those FBI requests come through, you’ll never know for sure. You’re putting all your trust in a centralized entity.
Express and PIA both have had real cases and encounters with court orders or authorities where they have proven to not log or to keep whatever they log about you secure. These are the only two I know. It does not imply others do not live up to what they promise in their privacy policies, it's simply inconclusive without testing.
@@AllThingsSecured I'm sure they are proud, but I've never seen a expressvpn commercial or sales pitch involving the investigation. My guess is that they are afraid of making a murderer the face of their company and/or claims of milking someones death to sell subscriptions.
I know but it helps with netflix and discovery plus, as Im Canadian and we dont have tons of content on streaming services
It's called The Pirates Bay, everything you could ever want for free! Pick the cheapest VPN you can find & download with immunity! Heck even FREE vpn's like hotspot shield are sufficient for torrenting. Never pay for content again.
Wow finally! Someone actually made a video about false advertising VPNs.
I was cringing the whole time when some youtubers say something like "are you sick of your ISP knowing all about your network traffic?". Yeah... I'm sick of it so I need to make a 3rd party VPN know all about my traffic 🙃
😂😆
A good VPN doesn't store your browsing information. The privacy policy that this UA-camr read also didn't mention it. Of course, they have to keep your session information and app diagnostic data but does it really matter if they do?
I think another question to ask is “What are you doing with the data you’re ‘not’ collecting?”
‘We never log internet usage/IP’ is what’s most important I think. The fact that they store your payment and use connection details seems like pretty useless information to anyone subpoena/tracking you. Sure they might then know your computer was online, but wouldn’t have info on where and what it was connected to. It’s like you are saying your blinds don’t offer privacy because you can see still the lights are on.
If you're a target, they can easily tell what server you've connected to without having to subpoena a VPN. When you hear about this nowadays, it's more of a CYA thing - "doing their due diligence" rather than actually expecting to find anything useful.
@@mikkj1 “Easily see which server you’re connected to”, as in which vpn server you are routed through? My understanding is that’s as far as they could go. What is CYA?
@@markoshun
CYA = cover your a** In other words doing stuff just so that no one can claim that you didn't do enough.
And, you're correct, they can only tell what server you've connected to. If they get the data from a "no log" VPN, that's all they'll get as well, since they don't log where you went.
oh, they log your ip all over the place.
They just don't log it in direct relation with the data you send over their network.
What they do is they log the relation between your ip and the ip they assign you. And then log the incoming data (from and to you) to your ip and the outgoing data (from and to that new ip address) to that ip address.
It's just one simple SQL query away from linking everything together, but on paper they don't log the actual network traffic.
@@jwenting
I don't know of any of the actual "no log" VPN's that log your outgoing destination. All they log is for server usage, traffic balancing, etc. If they're logging what server you're connecting to, then they're not even secure, let alone "no log".
The cut away scene was a nice touch
Ha! Thanks 😊
I work in IT, and I've definitely had people ask me why I don't use a VPN, and this video sums it up pretty well. A VPN isn't a privacy tool, and unless you run your own VPN it never will be. It's good for seeing geo-locked content, but that's it, and even today a lot of websites are able to recognise when you're using a VPN and not deliver you the content
It's good for getting around ISP enforcement as well if that's an issue for you. My old ISP detected ANY use for torrent as potentially illegal activity, so I do all my (very minimal) torrent needs over a VPN these days despite moving to a less stupid ISP.
And i'm an IT and say the complete opposite. VPNs are extremely useful for a lot of things. It blocks throttling from your ISP. It block ISPs from seeing what you do, i know people who received legal binding letters just for torrenting. It enables you to access websites that are blocked in your country. It gives you more security, when i was in a trip with friends, everyone who used the airbnb's wifi had their credit card info taken, except me because i had a vpn. It also adds a layer of anonymity online. A vpn alone isn't enough, but still a required to ensure anonymity.
@@DanishTroll87 I call BS on the credit card information thing. If you're in IT you should know absolutely 100% that your credit card details will be passed over a connection encrypted. What's more likely is that your friends withdraw from an ATM with a skimmer fitted to it. Or put their card info into a phishing website
@@SinisterPixel AFAIK banking apps don't have their own connection. And if you're an IT, then you should know you can still access a person's phone even if encrypted; especially if they are using YOUR connection.
The only thing I use my VPN for is to watch Netflix anyways lol
I use it to watch shows or movies not available in my country.
just pirate lol, netflix is trash, definitely not worth the subscription
@John Smith cuties... Yeah it is cp
i use it for access the reddit, because my government think reddit is a "full" porn site
I hope VPN provider would interested with my GAY PORN. joking.
Just use Surfshark, best VPN out there. And it absolutely matters where a VPN is located. Privacy Policy: Not a single thing is kept or logged, you can have many people use the same account at the same time, no limitations. You can opt out of Diagnostics reports.
The only thing that might warrant information collecting is a warrant, and good luck forcing a warrant on a VPN company based in the British Virgin Islands.
The only 'people' that know you're using a VPN is your ISP, but they will never know what you are doing with your VPN.
What's sad is that companies like ExpressVPN and NordVPN and PIA are popular while not being actually good or worth the price.
Wow, you’ve drunk the kool-aid, haven’t you?
This video earned my sub. I'm glad you explained VPN stuff in a way that I can better understand things about it.
I do gardening work to finance my college fees and most of what we do is make company grounds (parking lots, flower beds etc) look nice for independent audits. Now, I know what the place looks like 364 days of the year, as I have seen the "before picture", so I can say with certainty that audits don't mean anything. Cleaning up once for a good look is cheaper than maintaining it.
Because 99.9% of humans are like Paris Hilton ... lol
Most people are probably saying right now who is Paris Hilton because he ain’t done nothing in years. I mean for the period of time she was in the public guy it was cringe worthy but she was a kid young and wild. Anyway 100% of humans I like Paris Hilton for time.
@@PurposeBuiltSasha your autocorrect must really be annoying.
What? The comment and the reply both make no sense.
For two years I was paying for a European-based VPN, with lots of options.
Then I decided to stop being a good torrenter (@1.4 share ratio), and become a leech - dumping my VPN, and disconnecting from torrents as soon as they finished downloading.
Three years later, I'm still downloading torrents sometimes, and disconnecting - and my ISP has never sent me a single warning about it.
So, the only downside to no VPN is that I can't access region-locked stuff.
Which is what torrents are for. :)
This channel is sick. The edit, the explanation, im subbing
This channel is best i ever seen ..and if you can do better then do it
Immediately did the same
@@walter2065 i thought he is being sarcastic
@@fannyalbi9040 i have no idea . it didnt look like that
@@walter2065
Clickbait vid, generalizing and aiming casuals.
If you have the internet. Your life is no longer private.
Great style and plain clear explanations. Congrats.
Thanks so much, Pedro!
I was refused access to an American news site because I am in Britain.
I tried again using a VPN with a New Jersey address.
They refused me access again saying 'you're using a VPN, you're not in New Jersey, you're in Britain'.
DAmn! And me here in the USA watches British news because all the news here is agenda driven fake crap! You all have much more accurate news than we do here in the USA! Sky News in Australia is the clear winner for news accuracy though!
Yeah sometimes using a VPN does not work. There are many sites that refuses to work if you switch over to a VPN. And if you turn it off then it works again. Which kinda defeats the point in paying for it.
Thats why you dont use a VPN for privacy reasons, but to be more safe from hackers and intruders to your computer (especially when you are working)
"Thats why you dont use a VPN for privacy reasons"
Really? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
ah yes "safe from hackers"
because that phrase means something useful right?
I randomly came across this video, watched exactly 50 seconds of it. Immediately liked and subscribed.
Thank you.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on Proton VPN.
LOL
* Any ‘public’ VPN is open to the same forms of abuse and intrusion.
Only if you host *both* ends of the VPN (e.g. at a foreign relative’s house) can it be secure - until it leaves their property and goes onto ‘their’ public internet.
FEAR SELLS, people are just scared and feel protected by some other force even if they have to pay for it, kinda like religious without paying for it but still controling
It’s true.
I stick with Nord. I know it isn’t possible to be totally anonymous online, I just want to be walled off from creeps & thieves when on networks that aren’t mine or don’t know what their settings or who else is on them are. Plus some public WiFi networks block entertainment streaming services and the VPN gets around that.
Yea, untrusted networks are good to protect against.
This is what you need you understand as a privacy conscientious person. There is no such thing as privacy on the internet or on any smart device or any type of technology for that fact. Everything you do with technology in today's world is monitored and your info is stored somewhere and sold to someone somewhere. That's the end all be all about privacy. There is none
This is why they always push the "netflix"angle, the rest is bunk.
Netflix nowadays detects VPNs 😂
@@தமிழோன் not in my experience
VPN services are definitely useful, but yeah, their "total privacy" marketing angle always rubbed me the wrong way. If you're on the internet, you're not anonymous, period. And you don't really need to be, either. The main dangers and inconveniences you're exposed to are
a) your ISP being ordered to give out your information because some legal firm wants to slap your wrist for torrenting (do people still do that?) copyrighted material (VPNs kinda-sorta help, but aren't a perfect protection here)
b) not being able to access region locked content (VPNs may help here)
c) a service you left your personal information with being compromised (VPNs decidedly do not help here)
d) you falling for a scam (same)
So, yeah, you can run as many layers of redirects as you want, if you send that Nigerian prince your bank information or use the same password everywhere, you're not a tiny bit safer.
Of course, if you're the next big thing in South American drug operations or kill people for a living, some government agency might be interested in you (and even then, a VPN won't cut it) - but barring that, no one is going to care about your traffic, only about your data. And chances are that's already floating around somewhere.
Can we at least agree that we're not looking for true "no-log" or absolute anonymity, but a good commercial VPN, not used by itself but also combined with other privacy practices such as using privacy-focused browsers/search engines, tracker/cookie/script blocking extensions, manually opting out of the data collection of services, etc. does provide increased anonymity&privacy by decompartmentalizing and obfuscating than not having any protection at all?
Yes. But can you also agree that the term “no log” is terribly misleading?
@@AllThingsSecured not really misleading. More like you are playing on semantics for views.
@@DanishTroll87 there's no semantics behind "no log". but i guess you're a troll given your name
@@LC-hd5dc i was talking about the name of the video
Here is the privacy policy of the internet: You don't have any. It's really that simple. There are ways to obfuscate, but that is it. I mean, the fact is, you have an IP address for a reason....you are passing information about yourself in order to just use the internet - even if the VPN were truly "no log" - you are not fully anonymous. Good video.
I use vpn to legally purchase books from Google books because apparently some parts of the world shouldn't read, according to google, of course.
Licensing agreements are the worst.
I have a VPN and everything I search for shows up on Face Book trying to get me to buy it. For instance. I was looking for saddle bags. When I went to face book the ads were full of saddle bags. Save your money.
Sir I know your video's are not getting the views they deserve.
But please please 🙏 don't stop making them !!
I love your style of explanation and I am sure many will too in future.
So, for now don't worry about the views, please continue making videos informative videos like this 👍
Love from India ❤️
Thanks so much, Hitesh! I'm not concerned about views, thankfully. But it definitely helps if you like and share the video 😝
Why are you calling him sir?
As a paranoid schizophrenic paying extra for my country's proven privacy focused ISP and a good VPN is an easy choice. Sometimes depending on how fucked up I am a certain week I use TOR and Tails OS on a burner laptop in McDonald's. It's hard work being mentally ill.
That sucks.
Guess I'll have to trust my government's incompetence so that my piracy streak may continue.
Finally, a video calling this out. Sick of hearing all these content creators sponsoring VPNs as if it makes you anonymous. No, it really doesn't.
It is a lot better than this video implies. As long as you know its limitations but it does:
1) Prevent web sites you visit from seeing your IP address (use incognito mode to hide cookies)
2) Prevent your ISP from seeing the web sites you visit
3) Zero logging of VP IP to ISP IP address, to even the VPN cannot resolve historic mappings
Finally, someone talking something accurate about it.
Thanks
6:19 "If you're trying to use VPN to do something illegal DON'T", I think a better phrase would be just to say "If you're trying to do something illegal DON'T".
Fair enough.
Very well stated. Still, if a VPN (let's use NordVPN for simplicity) doesn't log anything except timestamps for when you're connected to the service-which are then deleted soon after disconnecting-how is this not effectively a cloak of anonymity? Of course, this trusts and assumes that their statements regarding logging is completely true, and that no admins secretly log other info. Still, I trust a VPN that I get to choose more than an ISP (of which choice is very little) that may be required whether by law or by policy to log certain things.
The point is that if they’re logging your connection - even for 15 minutes - it’s not ZERO LOGS. And you have to trust that they’re going to do what they say they’re going to do with your data.
@@AllThingsSecured You're right. It's not Zero Logs, and that really is false advertising. There's a lot of people that say that commercial VPN's are pretty useless though, at least from a privacy standpoint. I'm thinking that surely a VPN with few to no logs would be better than without it, but I'm still trying to formulate my final opinions.
When Hiding from a enemy, the best place to hide, is right by their base.
Eh
you mean lets rent a VPN provided by NSA directly?
He is talking about proxy hatchery build. Sneaky zergs...
I use a VPN as well but yes your right nothing is completely 100% private .
solution: host your own VPN
Then what do you use for privacy?
vpns are the honey pot for countries monitoring traffic, they are the most information rich sources among those feeling it increases safety/anonymity. THEE HONEY POT!
If you try hard to hide your activity, you'll just make yourself a more interesting target to the people you want to hide from. It's like going out in the street with a gas mask in order to not being identified. Sure, people won't see your face, but the authorities will be suspicious and want to know what's up.
@Virus sploit Yeah but having a browser like Tor raises suspicion.
@Virus sploit Agencies don't care about your rights because there's no consequence of violating it.
@Virus sploit It is not getting arrested, it is getting sued for statutory damages that ruins your life.
@Virus sploit No there are not, are you stupid? We're talking totalitarian countries like N. Korea and other dictatorships in Africa, SEA and Venezuela. They need to use Tor and triple their protection else they literally get sent to jail and executed for reporting their countries tyranny.
I have been yelling this from the rooftops for so long I think I am going to get throat cancer, but the sheep still think they can be unseen.
Awesome structure of the information yet again. Good job and thank you
Thank you, David!
In some parts of the world, using a VPN actually raises suspicion about you -- the exact opposite you'd want. It's like Frodo putting on the Ring; he becomes invisible to some, but he becomes very visible to others, some of which might be even more dangerous.
So the assumption is that if you use a VPN you have something to hide? OK, my personal information.
"I'll mention some vpns in the description below".....and he just mentions the same 2 vpns he was shilling in the video. Nothing more than a thinly veiled marketing video for his sponsors.
Exactly... what stupid shit is this. Tired of seeing NordVPN and the likes all over youtube, always stay away from the companies that big advertise...
@@kickassamd I advertise NordVPN cause it's the most profitable to advertise & their privacy standards aren't actually that bad. But I think the best VPN is WeVPN but it's just not as mainstream. Personally thats what I use, HOWEVER I only use it for downloading free stuff & pretty much ANY VPN will work with that & not give my data to copyright holders.
Realistically we don't need the privacy we think we do, but more privacy is *always* better!
@@Zaptosis you advertise them the same reason every other UA-camr does. $$$$$$$$$$$$$. I’ll Stick to services that don’t shell out money in dump trucks to youtubers.
Josh, I wrote a paper (unpublished) about the myths and truths of VPN services. I work as a forensics (CSA). Take my word for this, there are NO safe VPN's. Period. Privacy is a myth. Here's why: In a recent infection investigation with law enforcement, the victim was using two types of VPN's, Tor and Nord. Both are complete hazards-each different in their problems. With Nord we found Telemetry leaks. We also found Telemetry leaks with Windows and Linux too. Tor Browser despite their improved header has some unique issues. Tor routes are controlled by routers that are hostile. What we found in the background egress servers could only amount to "captured privacy" . While it might be true that VPN services do not log your data, the egress servers do. We were able to sniff all services offered including TOR by using a non destructive bot stream to the attacker that has a RSA above six K. We were able to pair into the other guy's stream by capturing the handshakes and rolling with the hosts key's. Using this process we have concluded that VPN's with the right technology were spyable. Then on the other end, we saw the Microsoft Telemetry issue. If you block the telemetry data or change windows to where they cannot read their proprietary microsoft telemetry, here comes a Microsoft investor ready to cancel your Key's. You can battle allegations of piracy too. VPN's do not block telemetry or app telemetry. There is no privacy, except through the system I described above. It is a tunnel that blocks all outbound telemetry, but requires quantums and massive super stacks. It's been online for 9 years and has never been discovered ro hacked.
Thanks for sharing, Jeff!
Lol people are silly to think they’re hidden. Same goes for phones they didn’t design these phones for our leisure they were designed to keep an eye on us.
Burner phones for the win!
Do what I do, don't give a fuck. Just keep speaking up, exposing the police state in your country.
I will routinely turn on network logging/tracing. I don’t look for data packets, but routing information as my job involves debugging connectivity issues.
I also use VPN to avoid geolocation censorship.
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Huh?
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My old rule sayz "If it's too good, it's on 99% horsecrap!"
The VPN company has to know who you are. That's inevitable. The question is always whether they'll give that information out. Unless you're doing something criminal, they probably won't. It's in your VPN's best interest not to care what you're doing unless they have to.
Thanks for taking the time to explain this in a clear and concise manner. My anti-virus provider is hopping on the bandwagon of pushing VPN as another security measure. However, after doing some research, I realized that I don’t need it and their added service is not one of the better providers if I should need this service. You confirmed what I always understood the function of VPN’s which you have explained very well in your other videos. I would recommend to everyone to look at your other videos which covers all the essential aspects of VPN’s and why one is necessary and when they are not.
Thanks, Darrin!
I have said the same things before and been laughed at for saying it. People will believe what they want to believe, it doesnt matter how obviously wrong their beliefs are.
Unfortunately that’s true. This comment section can attest to that.
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I never thought of a VPN as an absolute privacy tool. I think of it as a security tool for those times when I have to use a wi-fi connection of unknown reputation, such as at a hotel in a foreign country I happen to be visiting, or even a coffee shop in my own town. I don't trust the security of a well known VPN in any absolute sense, but I do trust them more than these totally unknown channels. Also I use a VPN to watch UK Netflix from the US.
Yeah, I only use VPN to get pass region locked contents. To expect anything beyond that is kinda naïve.
I use ExpressVPN and I'm okay with the minimal data they log as it's nothing personally identifiable. Obviously there has to be some sort of saved info for the service to work, but so long as the info that is saved isn't incriminating (just in case I find myself looking at something illegal that I didn't intend), I'm fine with it.
Thanks again for a great video. My question is did he make his bed and if so how did you train him? Still working on my 13 year old to do that lol. Even with the random time checks
Haha! 😂 😆
I was looking for a video on this topic. Found yours and it was clear, concise and easy to understand. Thanks! And, good job! You now have a new subscriber.
Thanks!
Damn, that's a sobering realization.
I guess I needed to hear that 😅
Haha 😆
Private Internet Access, has the court documents to prove they don't log any data whatsoever. Google it.
Thank you. I use a non-US VPN to slow down any US interference. I want to make that harder for the thought police. My web and email hosting are also off-shore. I am not doing anything illegal, but as you mentioned, I am opposed to censorship, mostly from my own government and social media. VPN is a great tool for helping me get another perspective. I desire to know more information on a subject so I can decide. If I do not see the other side, how would I be able to make up my mind.
I get it, Douglas. You don’t have to be participating in any kind of illegal activity in order to value your privacy and security.
In certain countries, they are obligated to log certain data.
It's not their fault? These UA-camrs are just peddling these VPN providers to get paid. They are falsely claiming what the VPN can do. We should be able to sue these UA-camrs as well.
The language in the privacy policy is such that I don’t think they can be sued.
@@AllThingsSecured we should be able to sue the UA-camrs that falsely claimed VPN abilities. Not the actual VPN provider. The UA-camrs are the problem
I see using a VPN like going to places by a bus, rather than your car. People can still track you, or notice you at a seedy bar, but they won't notice your car outside, and can't track you via your car's gps. If you use something like TOR, that would be like not bringing your phone, and wearing a disguise; very incognito, but still possible to see through.
you also stick out since not many people are wearing disguises. and the guy you left your phone with might rat you out. tor is honestly worse than nothing.
@@LC-hd5dc TOR used to be good, but now it's fully infiltrated by people seeking personal data. It's worse than nothing now, but it used to be decent.
VPN-service in Switzerland is pretty much the best. They have the strictest privacy laws.
Noop, that is not right at all. Switzerland will cooperate even better with official demands come from country authorities like U.S.A. It all depends on who is asking for info and why.
@@Revolutionized Better than which country? I do not know any.
@@ghlscitel6714 Better than all other European countries U.S. call them friend, my friend. Don't argue this because I say things based on facts.
@@Revolutionized I don't understand what you write.
Which country is better for privacy than Switzerland and reports less likely to outside powers?
@@ghlscitel6714 You are bothering yourself too much. When it comes to security, there is not much a difference between countries, specially those who have common internets. I didn't mean to put Switzerland down but just commenting on a fact. There are national agreements between counties for security and data transformation. Nothing would override these cooperation when there is a need. Switzerland plays exactly the same rule as any other country would do if not even better. That's all.
The audit you are refering to is an ISAE300 control report. Such a report, provided that it is a type 2 report, has tested the efficiency over a period of time, typically one year, not at a moment in time.
Umm...where the heck did you get that? That's not the case at all.
Finally! Everytime there is a sponsor for VPN in (insert youtuber) videos I can't help but cringe a bit.
*At what point will you believe, there is no such a thing as PRIVACY anymore because you are carrying a SMART phone with you!!!!*
Physically set up your own VPN with equipment you own…the services are a joke and a scam.
Do you know of a webpage where an internet user who isn't a total noob, but also isn't super-tech-savvy, could find some comprehendible instructions on how to set up their own VPN with equipment that they own? Thanks.
Edit: Don't worry, I just found a video posted by 'Wolfgang's Channel' on how to do it, & the vid was right here on YT! Doh!
For those who are willing to do it!
I very much appreciate your no-nonsense approach to this topic. You hit all the right points and you do it in a way that adds the correct amount of emphasis on what is important and what someone should be using a VPN for.
Generally speaking, anyone should be able to be on the internet with any device and never have to use or consider a VPN but this world is far from perfect and despite people with nefarious intent by and large the worst users of internet traffic and it's data are companies who wish to profit from that data.
Good video. I liked and subscribed. Thank you for your time and effort.
"Everyone Lies!" - Greg HOUSE
(5:25) It’s like when I worked for a Meat Market. We got 4 hour advanced notice before any health inspector was coming so that’s when we made things look good.
Exactly!!
It's the same in IT. We're aware when the audit is coming. I've never once seen a pop quiz.
The only reason in my mind why someone should invest in subscribing to a VPN service is to block the ISP (yours or some random free Wi-Fi network at the coffee shop) to see what the hell you are up to.
Everything else is a pure marketing gimmick.
You’re forgetting censorship around the world.
Great video and I really like your channel. Thank you cutting through the bs that we are being fed with all the time.
I work as a Splunk engineer and trust me, logs amount to 50 TB per day.
Thanks for sharing!
Part of that logged stuff is the VPN company's website rather than the actual VPN service itself, ie IP address and cookies. It is possible to switch logging off at the VPN server level or just bin it everyday as they get shed loads of this stuff if you imagine how many connections they get.
Honestly though I never into fight for privacy stuff. I honestly don't care that companies collecting my non credentials data or non sensitive data as long as my user experience is not affected. In this day and age I prefer convenience than full privacy.
It is not about convenience, lucky you that all you have to worry about is that. A lack of privacy allows an ex spouse-employer-friend Anyone you do not want to know your business to know it. It can destroy a life and has mine.
@@gigigigi9479 I'm guessing that's because of social media? I don't see just browsing on the internet without some protection would let your friends/employer knows what you're doing. Unless they have access your device directly or you publicly share what are you doing on the internet.
If a VPN was truly private and you were untraceable, it would be abused by criminals to no end...
And im sure it is to some degree right now.
That being said, it can be used in combination with other things to increase your anonimity