*New IP explodes onto the industry, ripping and tearing* Executives: "This is fine, but it doesn't meet our ridiculously high standards. Dilute what makes it unique to appeal to more people" *Sequel makes even more money, but is a bit shaky in places* Executives: "You still haven't reached our highly inflated standards, now you must dilute it even further with no compromise or else we're cancelling the game" *3rd game crawls to the finish line, hardly resembling it's original shape* Executives: "What the heck, this game has no identity and performed poorly. We're cancelling any future sequels and closing your studio"
@637 H4CK3D N008 for a compilation of old ass games, it's really good sales numbers. It's just Capcom being Crapcom at the time, ridiculous expectations and greediness.They were really close being EA or Konami.
And that's the saddest part about Visceral and Dead Space's fate. Their faults weren't their own. If they failed on their own merits, I would kind of have a "dems the breaks" attitude towards them with a bit of sympathy. But they did everything EA wanted. EA wanted multiplayer in 2, Vis gave it to them. Literally no one cared. EA wanted Co-op. Vis gave them that, despite the fact that it hurt the horror aspect of survival horror. EA wanted microtransactions, bigger better guns to sell for real money and Vis gave them that, despite the fact that it hurt the survival aspect of survival horror. And after going against what made the game better to appease EA, they were rewarded with their series being cancelled and ultimately shut down. Good devs lost their jobs because EA management insisted they implement their bad ideas. Visceral were the fall guys and those higher ups and killed them got off scott free.
Exactly! Visceral quite literally did NOTHING wrong by their own merits. They just followed what they were forced to do. If they were allowed to be as creative as they wanted to be with the series it possibly could’ve rivaled the likes of Resident Evil in terms of popularity and profit. Even for being as limited as they were Visceral still delivered fantastic horror experiences that I consider some of my favorite games of all time!
Well if you can't earn mountains of micro payments from rich spoiled brats in Saudia Arabia and China like FIFA can... well you can just get fucked in EA's eyes. Which wouldn't be so bad if they just stuck to re-releasing mediocre sports games, but no they have to own several talented studios, a ton of potentially great IPs , and go out of their way to fuck both at every turn.
To add to Jay Cee's comment, literally everyone on the planet could own a season pass, super deluxe, collectors edition of an EA title, and the heads would still consider it a failure.
I really don’t know why they even bother pretending like they give a fuck about anything but those sweet sweet FIFA/Battlefield Bucks. They should just sell all their other IPs off at this point
How did it happen? EA is traded on the stock market. Its run by suits with market metrics instead of actual gamers. Since its publicly traded, it needs to constantly turn an ever growing profit. It also needs to pay all those suits their millions. It (unlike a smaller studio) has no pride in creating an awesome well loved game and getting goodwill from gamers, it cares about the short term per-quarter or per year profit. And that is all it cares about. As long as gamers keep buying their producta and acting like the rat pressing the cocaine button in regard to mtxs they'll keep doing it. It makes them money.
The idea of Isaac's co-op partner being a figment of his imagination would have been extremely dope and shareholders are the scum of the earth for taking that from me.
Or perhaps John in some instance gets figment version telling him almost constantly if his failures as a father and husband Isaac shadow version would come as hey John carver suddenly disappeared nowhere to be found
@@meowistforlife There was a exploit in DS3 for farming resources that EA wanted people to pay for with microtransactions even though they were in the base game so sense the game was designed for you to pay real cash for extra resources they claimed using exploits was theft
With every What Happened, my heart breaks more and more as I learn these stories of hopeful and passionate developers getting savaged by the greedy higher-ups...
It is true in most industries that cater to consumers. But don't let it get you down. If it were possible for a developer to put out nothing but hits, that would also have downsides.
Idk, I can't feel bad for these developers that sit there and make deals with EA, all the while raking in that publisher/exclusive deal and watching their fellow devs get trashed on by that very same publisher.
If EA did things differently, there’s no doubt in my mind that Dead Space would be as successful as Resident Evil. Maybe even more so. I feel for the creators of Dead Space, one of the best sci-fi horror stories ever told. ❤️
Thank you for not throwing Visceral under the bus here. There was actually a lot more work done towards DS4 than most people know, I believe a lot of former Visceral employees have spoken about it 6 months-a year ago.
Fuck, that really hurts. I'll never forget the day I read that report on my phone saying it was cancelled, that ruined my whole goddamn week. Why can't they just sell the IP to someone who gives a shit if all they're gonna do is bury it anyway
@@rosecouch8642 It’s not even about her getting a new boyfriend. It’s that she’s essentially downgraded to a damsel in distress who cheers you on in the background.
me, watching a 'what happened' video: ooo a new video, i wonder why this game flopped the video: publishers prioritised profits over creative freedom and any kind of risky game design, forcing developers into schedules they couldn't develop a game in unless they either submitted to downright unethical work hours or cut out huge portions of game design they knew the game would suffer without me: oh. i don't know what i expected. me: ooo a new video -
>Greedy publishers >Incompetent team leader >Crunch and rushed deadline >Engine switch It always boils down to those, yet I keep binge watching wha happun.
Bombastic set-pieces aside, Dead Space 2 really did a wonderful job of expanding Necromorph types, and best of all, having a wide variety of environments. The Ishimura is cool and all, but it really starts to feel samey after awhile, Titan Station, on the other hand, you always wondered where you would be next; apartments, schools, churches, trams, the sheer number of different places where you could see how the Marker was effecting everyday life was awesome.
Honestly liked the bombastic set pieces, I think they worked really well capturing the scale and weight of the setting. While yes they didn't make Dead Space 2 a better horror game, it made it a better game overall compared to OG Dead Space in my opinion, because it built a heavy overall atmosphere and setting.
YOU! YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD! THANK YOU SO MUCH! I had no idea this project existed, but now that it is brought to my attention I can't thank you enough.
"We have to sell 5 million units or this will be the last Dead Space." "Let's sell the game only on a barely used, almost useless and unloved platform." "We are geniuses."
What you talking about the only one left out was pc and most gamers only play on consoles because it’s easier to come home from work click a button and sit on a couch with big flat screen then it is to boot up a pc look for steam then click and wait for that to load then click on dead space click on that load the game and then finally play plus lots of people don’t know how to build or install file’s on computer i got my first pc around dead space 2 era and i had to learn all this just to play deadlines space on my pc until I got it for play station 3 and it was so much easier 💯🙌🏼😭
@@phantomspaceman I would also like to see him talk about Shadows of the Damned and its hellish production that was ruined by EA. While not an awful game, this was not a game Suda51 and Shinji Mikami were proud of.
I miss this series. I still get chills remembering the moment in DS2 when you see the Ishimura docked at the space station. And even moreso when I had to enter it.
Despite not liking Carver much, he did set Isaac up to deliver one of the greatest lines in history: “Good men mean well, we just... don’t always end up doing well...”
Funny that EA marketing thought that the decent into madness aspect was hard to market, but here in the super future of 2019, a Joker movie about that same thing pulled in $700+ million worldwide
Seamus Perkins But how stupid do they have to be to think “oh wow descending into madness is so hard to market for a horror game.” It’s literally a trope that has been around the horror genre forever. Amnesia came out in 2010 and keeping your sanity in check was a big deal. That game was a big success. Seriously, EA marketing team is so far up their asses to think the madness aspect is hard to sell in a horror. Wow, people who see fucked up shit and live in constant fear go crazy and question their sanity. What an unlikely and difficult to understand concept.
My favourite part of dead space 3 was when I made a rocket launcher/chaingun which trivialised every enemy in the game... ...somewhat killed the suspense.
I know this is a year old comment, but I too built a suspense killing weapon: Automatic spike launcher with an air cannon on the bottom, stasis buffed to slow things down, paired with a plasma cutter so powerful it could literally one shot average necros on normal no matter where it hit them, 3-5 as I climbed harder difficulties in NG+. One of the worst parts of DS3 imo was letting us build OP ass weapons.
@@DefiantYeast0426 definitely the worst part for sure. It sound like we built the same weapon, having stasis ammo is absurdly OP, and easily kills any suspenses this game has to offer. Smh
Enjoy becoming the hunter instead of the hunted. Being terrified of the monsters and later smashing their faces in with contemptuous ease is cathartic.
Ah, yes, one of my favorite horror franchises that could've been great if it weren't for corporate meddling. In Carver's defense, I actually liked him as a character. He grew on me and I liked his banter with Isaac. Still, it's a shame to hear the devs having something else in mind and being forced to give that up thanks to EA, those greedy fuckers. I hope one day Dead Space can make a comeback, even bigger and better than ever before. Another great episode of Wha Happun, Mr. McMuscles! BTW, there's a video here on YT of the spinoff comic with voice acting. It's seriously well made and worth a watch.
My issues with Dead Space 3 - - Universal AMMO - BULLET SPONGE enemies in higher difficulties - Bad enemy design IE: Human like "zombie" Necromorphs - Poor weapon balancing - SUITS ARE ONLY COSMETIC = No benefit for wearing a "cool suit" - Suit Upgrades make you nigh UNKILLABLE - Weapons can become beyond BROKEN even making the game on HARDCORE feel like a cakewalk - PAY TO WIN DLC's EXAMPLES: Marauder Pack / Bot accelerator - Bot Capacity / Whiteness the Truth pack (whiteness shotgun and DMR are BROKEN Overpowered ) - Plot holes and annoying characters such as NORTON and weak choice of using Enemies with guns (not dead space anymore, just another Third Person shooter action "thriller") - Multiplayer making it too easy (I like CO-OP but it makes the game a complete pushover) - RATION SEALS NOT WORKING ON STEAM - Crafting system is a pain due to certain recourses not spawning (or pay 5$ for Bot accelerator and Bot capacity to fix that problem) - Weapon attachments making the weapons EVEN MORE BROKEN - Annoying Rappel / Climbing sections - Turning Dead Space into a ACTION COVER SHOOTER rather then the Horror Thriller its always been - Fear factor and HORROR elements are cheesy and predictable I can keep going but Dead Space 3 at best is a 4/10 It could have been WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY BETTER but it flopped harder then a catfish in a desert even the DEAD SPACE MOBILE game is way better and only the quarter of the length of Dead Space 3 I've been playing Dead Space since 2008 and I can say, I will always gladly skip Dead Space 3 as it is a stain on the series (thanks to EA), I only play it when I feel like being goofy with friends but even then you get bored quickly as there is zero challenge once you have +3, +4 and +5 circuits and Attachments. So no, I would not say Dead Space 3 is an Underrated Gem. I would say its a pile of Horrible Ideas slapped together with duct tape and a rushed story with boring uninteresting filler content like Issacs relationship issues. IE: the ruined Ellies character Go play DEAD SPACE EXTRACTION (Wii) or the DEAD SPACE MOBILE game if you want a more fun game. But only thing is, is that DEAD SPACE 3 has CO-OP so if you want CO-OP DEAD SPACE this is your only choice (less you count Dead Space 2 PVP Multiplayer). You can blame EA for the mess that is this game.
Thank you for mentioning me. I had worried that no one remembered. I was indeed going to play a part in this game, until I was replaced by that coward Carver. I never left Isaac’s mind, I just didn’t come into play until after the show was over. But now I’m here, and I will not be thrown away again.
Noticed the random use of Eyedol's theme. Neat. Also, this reminds me of the Dead Space motion comic. I watch it once every few months. It's real good.
Fun fact, the general design for Carver goes as far back as the second game where they also for a short time tried to implement some sort of co-op feature when they were working on the multiplayer. Due to the fact that the multiplayer was rushed they didn't really have time to work out the kinks all that well and benched his design until the third game when they dropped the whole Shadow Isaac thing, and they decided to bring back the Carver design.
Basically, publishers never learn that the best thing to do is let the game creators do what they want with the game and see what works instead if thinking they know what's best. Which is most of the time NOT what's best.
I still maintain that Dead Space 3 has one of the best crafting/customization systems in video games. It's not perfect of course, so that's more of a eulogy on crafting systems in video games, but I still love it to bits. Having a stasis-powered chain lightning gun/flamethrower combo is one of the most satisfying guns I've used ever.
I got a buddy into Dead Space 3 lately and I'm reliving the pure cheese strat that was the weapon customization. Shit is morrowind magic all over again.
This series makes me so mad. Just let creators... create! Never interfere with an artists vision! You will almost always fail! I just hope one day these people can all get a chance to make the game they wanted...
They should've made Carver the main character to give us a fresh take on the marker's influence with a new "hero". Then the Issac/Shadow Issac thing could've been fleshed out better with Issac as a supporting character who picks off the rest of the cast without anyone knowing.
Here to rewatch this in light of recent Dead Space remake... EA kills game series and a whole studio just to make it again few years later, still gonna say the original wasn't profitable...
I finally found the missing element that makes Resident Evil 4 a true masterpiece- the music that plays when you get the invincibility star in Super Mario RPG
This series is amazing! I’ve watched them all in a matter of a few days and this one hits too close to home. Dead Space being one of, if not, my favorite franchises. Shame to see them go the “Carver” route. A fractured, shadow Isaac would’ve been such a good fit for the series.
16:56 The irony is that Resident Evil 4 was the first big shake up in the main line RE games, and was actually the 6th cannon game in the ENTIRE series.
"So I heard you changed System Shock into Dead Space." "Yes, sir." "Care to explain yourself?" "Well, sir. You see. Resident Evil 4 just got released." "...oh" *click*
I had a blast with this game in high school man, that 'build your own weapon' system was not intuitive to learn at all but once I got it I went really deep into it. I loved the customization of my guns itn really made me feel like Isaac the space engineer. I definitely understand most of the criticisms of the game haha but it was a thumbs up for me.
That's the thing. Game isn't bad, is actually a bonkers fun action shooter with sprinkles of horror here and there, problem is that this wasn't the dead space ppl were expecting. I actually didn't mind that much the game at the time, if that meant they could still realize more games with some new neat ideas... Let's say that visceral's ending was the begining of my hatred towards ea
@@Canalbiruta Agreed, if this were any other game in any other franchise, I’d just consider it a dumb but fun action game. But as a Dead Space game, it’s terrible.
The PC version has one of the weirdest bugs I’ve ever encountered in a game. Not game breaking but annoying and immersion breaking. The bug has those doors with the wheels constantly making a banging noise. It’s stops briefly when opening but then another door in the area will pick it up. I’m guessing it’s the sound clip that plays when opening in a loop rapidly. This is not a rare occurrence either because there are many threads on EA’s forums and elsewhere about this. Thankfully I found a fan written guide to fixing it by removing the sound file from the game.
Totally unrelated, but... the word "flotilla" causes me to start giggling like a schoolgirl. In my mind, I always pronounce "flotilla" like "tortilla" (tor-tee-ya). Then I picture a whole bunch of burritos flying through space. Then I get hungry. XD
I'm going to go ahead and say it: I did enjoy Dead Space 3. It wasn't the same as Dead Space 2 or 1, but I was able to have fun with it. I enjoyed the crafting system, I enjoyed blasting necromorphs and exploring the space ships and the ice planet. It was not a bad game. I won't say it was a great game, but I got my $60 worth of entertainment out of it.
I enjoyed Dead Space 3. I know it wasn't a horror game, I know the game wanted me to spend extra money, but I had fun. I don't think it makes a lot of sense for one character to be the center of a horror game for more than two games, since at a certain point the main character really wouldn't be that scared of what's going on around them. Isaac wasn't that scared of Necromorphs by 2, insofar as you can tell that Isaac was scared during 1. Thankfully 2 and 3 had plenty of NPCs who were suitably horrified by the madness unfolding around them, and Carver filled the role of 'player character going insane' if you were playing co-op.
@@abeish03 you do know a developer is still developing it right. EA is publishing it. EA Motive is the developer and EA is the publisher for this. EA isn’t simply re releasing the old games, they are funding a studio to remake it to obviously gauge interest in the franchise.
The flotilla idea sounds really cool. Like, the Normandy was a huge ship, but imagine if an infection occurs on one or more smaller ships and suddenly the ship layout (with strategic considerations in the macro) becomes your "dungeon" layout in the micro, as you move in to try and salvage what resources and crew you can from the remains? A kind of mashup of Mass Effect, Sunless Skies, Skull & Bones , F.T.L., and, like, the Bloodborne auto-generated dungeons or the LoZ: Wind Waker map making functionality, but with Dead Space play...
man shadow isaac would have been so cool. The game has one fucking scary part and its one of the sidemissions and you only see it as carver. Hugeass Nutcrackers througout the following areas that only carver can see, and then he has these seizures where you as carver have to fight alone while isaac also fights alone protecting carver and at the end, its a endboss where carver fights childsized agile enemys and his wife, and if you take too long, the isaac player will have a fucking hard time protecting you. It was fucking brilliant, visceral games have insane talent and that was only playable as player 2 on a sidemission.
"hey we don't think this is a good idea" EA: "WE DON'T CARE WE ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY! *it doesn't work* EA: "THIS IS YOUR FAULT YOU COST US MONEY!" "you made us do this"
I feel like the weapon crafting in DS3 wasn't a bad idea in principle, but definitely led to multiple problems in the end. Besides the ability to create stasis-tipped electrified sawblades and the like, the ammo was made universal to accommodate the wide variety of weapons, which basically meant you never had to worry about running out of ammo for a particular gun, and it was easy to come by imo. The other big problem I had was that, although you can craft all kinds of interesting weapons, you can only equip two at a time (as opposed to the four that you had in previous games), forcing you to rely on ONLY two of your weapon options and thus actually decreasing your options in any given fight.
I recently started Dead Space 3 after getting crazy into this franchise and... it's not bad, but it's not one of my favorites. I am a bit mixed on the amount of changes done, and of course the behind the scenes practices, oh boy.
Dead Space is probably my favorite video game series of all time. Even though it is over and Visceral is gone, I try to look on the bright side: Despite EA trying to drown it at every turn, it still managed to produce 6 games (1, 2, 3, Extraction, Ignition, and mobile) and alot of other cool stuff like books and animated movies. I'll always miss Dead Space and crave more but I'm still very grateful that I got to spend so much time in it's world.
I just want to point out that the Dead Space 2 cost, according to EA, a total $60 million dollars and subsequently sold 4 million copies. If each copy was sold for $60 that's a gross revenue of $240 million dollars. Advertising and marketing, publisher and platform fees would take a fair chunk of that to be sure. But even by fuzzy Hollywood math this is still a good return AND was trending towards the right direction for brand "mind share", etc. My conclusion is that: EA is just stupid.
EA is like the co-creator of What Happened...
Along with Sega
Matt should actually ask them for some funding and add microtransactions to the series. In 2 months then : What Happened? - What Happened?
Jared Hannsohn except we're not being charged $59.99 per episode.
More like the series' primary antagonist
Jared Hannsohn I think Executive Producer is a better title lol
EA: *ruins a good game*
Game: *Doesn't sell well*
EA: :O
:O
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*New IP explodes onto the industry, ripping and tearing*
Executives: "This is fine, but it doesn't meet our ridiculously high standards. Dilute what makes it unique to appeal to more people"
*Sequel makes even more money, but is a bit shaky in places*
Executives: "You still haven't reached our highly inflated standards, now you must dilute it even further with no compromise or else we're cancelling the game"
*3rd game crawls to the finish line, hardly resembling it's original shape*
Executives: "What the heck, this game has no identity and performed poorly. We're cancelling any future sequels and closing your studio"
Star Wars single player IP and DS4 started
EA: this is costing us a lot of money and no one wants it.
@@tehbeernerd They tried to make it a success... in the EA way. Which is to say by being extremely incompetent
therock238360 1 mil for a giant like capcom isn’t very good
@637 H4CK3D N008 for a compilation of old ass games, it's really good sales numbers.
It's just Capcom being Crapcom at the time, ridiculous expectations and greediness.They were really close being EA or Konami.
EA is actually retarded. They'd probably earn more money if they just let the series have its niche
And that's the saddest part about Visceral and Dead Space's fate. Their faults weren't their own. If they failed on their own merits, I would kind of have a "dems the breaks" attitude towards them with a bit of sympathy. But they did everything EA wanted. EA wanted multiplayer in 2, Vis gave it to them. Literally no one cared. EA wanted Co-op. Vis gave them that, despite the fact that it hurt the horror aspect of survival horror. EA wanted microtransactions, bigger better guns to sell for real money and Vis gave them that, despite the fact that it hurt the survival aspect of survival horror. And after going against what made the game better to appease EA, they were rewarded with their series being cancelled and ultimately shut down. Good devs lost their jobs because EA management insisted they implement their bad ideas. Visceral were the fall guys and those higher ups and killed them got off scott free.
felman87 The fact there was an in game store for a single player game guaranteed a few 10,000 people didn’t buy the game just for that.
Exactly! Visceral quite literally did NOTHING wrong by their own merits. They just followed what they were forced to do. If they were allowed to be as creative as they wanted to be with the series it possibly could’ve rivaled the likes of Resident Evil in terms of popularity and profit. Even for being as limited as they were Visceral still delivered fantastic horror experiences that I consider some of my favorite games of all time!
EA in a nutshell: "We want every human being on the planet Earth to buy this game to consider it a success." *but...that's impossible?* "Then perish."
Well if you can't earn mountains of micro payments from rich spoiled brats in Saudia Arabia and China like FIFA can... well you can just get fucked in EA's eyes. Which wouldn't be so bad if they just stuck to re-releasing mediocre sports games, but no they have to own several talented studios, a ton of potentially great IPs , and go out of their way to fuck both at every turn.
To add to Jay Cee's comment, literally everyone on the planet could own a season pass, super deluxe, collectors edition of an EA title, and the heads would still consider it a failure.
You know FIFA made 800 million pure interest in 2018, and EA STILL said that FIFA is not making enough money.
I really don’t know why they even bother pretending like they give a fuck about anything but those sweet sweet FIFA/Battlefield Bucks. They should just sell all their other IPs off at this point
All consumer industries eventually mature/devolve to an addiction model.
EA: Destroyer of Franchises/Developers/Sweet Stompin' Princes
They stomp franchises like Isaac stomps corpses.
@@PIB2000 they kill off game studios and destroy franchises just like how the necromorphs killed the whole USG Ishimura
@@inolongerusethisaccount4004 I still think the Brethren Moons were actually a metaphor for EA.
And companies
This episode summarised: EA happened
yup. Games are just a product to EA. They might as well be selling doorknobs, for all they care.
I expected him to talk about Shadows of the Damned... another scary tale from EA's headquarters.
That was my guess.
Well, we all knew that, but the question is: WHY did EA happen to this and HOW?
How did it happen? EA is traded on the stock market. Its run by suits with market metrics instead of actual gamers. Since its publicly traded, it needs to constantly turn an ever growing profit. It also needs to pay all those suits their millions. It (unlike a smaller studio) has no pride in creating an awesome well loved game and getting goodwill from gamers, it cares about the short term per-quarter or per year profit. And that is all it cares about.
As long as gamers keep buying their producta and acting like the rat pressing the cocaine button in regard to mtxs they'll keep doing it. It makes them money.
The true survival horror is working for
_Electronic Arts_
That implies you have a chance of your company surviving.
The idea of Isaac's co-op partner being a figment of his imagination would have been extremely dope and shareholders are the scum of the earth for taking that from me.
What do you mean? You’re not happy with sidekick John?
Or perhaps John in some instance gets figment version telling him almost constantly if his failures as a father and husband
Isaac shadow version would come as hey John carver suddenly disappeared nowhere to be found
Remember when EA threatened to have anyone who used exploits or cheats in Dead Space 3 arrested?
@@meowistforlife There was a exploit in DS3 for farming resources that EA wanted people to pay for with microtransactions even though they were in the base game so sense the game was designed for you to pay real cash for extra resources they claimed using exploits was theft
@@minimumeffortmaximumderp7135 That might be the most EA thing I've ever heard
@@calvezthemexicanjedi6443 yeah using scare tactics to force people into buying microtransactions is pretty messed up
Even worse than getting banned for supposedly finding the dev room in fallout 76
@@minimumeffortmaximumderp7135 God , please kill EA. Amen 🙏
With every What Happened, my heart breaks more and more as I learn these stories of hopeful and passionate developers getting savaged by the greedy higher-ups...
It is true in most industries that cater to consumers. But don't let it get you down. If it were possible for a developer to put out nothing but hits, that would also have downsides.
@@thekidwithpalsy592 well then. I'll just have to go to to the *one* place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism
**SPACE**
I feel you dude :'(
Idk, I can't feel bad for these developers that sit there and make deals with EA, all the while raking in that publisher/exclusive deal and watching their fellow devs get trashed on by that very same publisher.
Makes me want to visit their houses with a baseball bat and hit them in their going to be non-existent genitals.
''broadly appealing''
ah, the cursed words
Water is broadly appealing but most people would prefer to drink something that actually has taste to it.
@@caldw615 underrated comment right here
@@caldw615 not exactly a fair comparison, since you actually NEED water to survive
This one is gonna be painful to watch
yes it is :(
Fax
Kenneth Frierson I couldn’t watch the end of this video, it was too heart wrenching to watch my go to series die
It really did. EA sucked every single ounce of life out of this one :(
@@weirdpuzzledude1876 this franchise has grown on me
Thanks EA for ruining everything
If EA did things differently, there’s no doubt in my mind that Dead Space would be as successful as Resident Evil. Maybe even more so. I feel for the creators of Dead Space, one of the best sci-fi horror stories ever told. ❤️
@Johnny G That game looks very promising
Dead space and visceral deserved better publishers. Such a wasted potential of a franchise
@@Kagetora- rip
@@masturcheef123 I know...I was so excited but now, not so much.
@@Kagetora- same :(
Dead Space 3
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that's where the issue were
So what you're saying is... we need D&D in space.
@@sloshed-rat lmao
can't spell DEAD without EA.
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@@sloshed-rat Pretty sure that'd just be Starfinder.
Well, it looks like Dead Space may have finally made a comeback, the remake is selling great and it plays well.
We'll see what the future holds...
Thank you for not throwing Visceral under the bus here. There was actually a lot more work done towards DS4 than most people know, I believe a lot of former Visceral employees have spoken about it 6 months-a year ago.
Fuck, that really hurts. I'll never forget the day I read that report on my phone saying it was cancelled, that ruined my whole goddamn week. Why can't they just sell the IP to someone who gives a shit if all they're gonna do is bury it anyway
@@calvezthemexicanjedi6443 Because the babies in suits who run EA would have a tantrum if they had to give up anything at all.
Make no mistake. In the world of AAA game developing, the executives are always to blame.
@@jackgebhardt2932 I wonder who’s is worse Konami or EA?
@@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr imagine if they fuse together... KonEAmi
EA: Wanna know what's scarier than this shadow Issac concept?
Visceral: What?
EA: A love triangle.
That's what pissed me off about this game the most. GAAAAAAAAH!!!!!
Gods, I hated what they did to Ellie. She's completely different in DS3.
With a piece of cardboard.
@@DarkKingHadesellie is very realistic considering it’s not uncommon for women to get a new boyfriend after immediately dumping you
@@rosecouch8642 It’s not even about her getting a new boyfriend. It’s that she’s essentially downgraded to a damsel in distress who cheers you on in the background.
me, watching a 'what happened' video: ooo a new video, i wonder why this game flopped
the video: publishers prioritised profits over creative freedom and any kind of risky game design, forcing developers into schedules they couldn't develop a game in unless they either submitted to downright unethical work hours or cut out huge portions of game design they knew the game would suffer without
me: oh. i don't know what i expected.
me: ooo a new video -
Tell me the purpose of this comment.
@@iverson64_ It passes the butter
@@calvezthemexicanjedi6443 I can't believe its not butter
>Greedy publishers
>Incompetent team leader
>Crunch and rushed deadline
>Engine switch
It always boils down to those, yet I keep binge watching wha happun.
Bombastic set-pieces aside, Dead Space 2 really did a wonderful job of expanding Necromorph types, and best of all, having a wide variety of environments. The Ishimura is cool and all, but it really starts to feel samey after awhile, Titan Station, on the other hand, you always wondered where you would be next; apartments, schools, churches, trams, the sheer number of different places where you could see how the Marker was effecting everyday life was awesome.
Honestly liked the bombastic set pieces, I think they worked really well capturing the scale and weight of the setting. While yes they didn't make Dead Space 2 a better horror game, it made it a better game overall compared to OG Dead Space in my opinion, because it built a heavy overall atmosphere and setting.
@@JhenMaster I do hold that of the original 3, DS2 was the best. That was until the Remake, which fixed most of my complaints about 1.
At least a spiritual successor is in the works. Keep an eye out for “Negative Atmosphere” by Sunscorched Studios.
YOU! YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I had no idea this project existed, but now that it is brought to my attention I can't thank you enough.
Id kiss you if i could.
Nice thx !
Bless you good sir
The title "Negative Atmosphere" sounds like an office where all your coworkers are slightly passive-aggressive.
"We have to sell 5 million units or this will be the last Dead Space."
"Let's sell the game only on a barely used, almost useless and unloved platform."
"We are geniuses."
What you talking about the only one left out was pc and most gamers only play on consoles because it’s easier to come home from work click a button and sit on a couch with big flat screen then it is to boot up a pc look for steam then click and wait for that to load then click on dead space click on that load the game and then finally play plus lots of people don’t know how to build or install file’s on computer i got my first pc around dead space 2 era and i had to learn all this just to play deadlines space on my pc until I got it for play station 3 and it was so much easier 💯🙌🏼😭
EA did a ton of decisions that destroyed their smaller departments and studios back then, like visceral games.
@@tonyfierro2298 I'm sorry but PC platform is much better than console in terms of graphics and controls imo.
@@tonyfierro2298 lmao has to be the most console player answer there is
It was on 360 and ps3?
I would love to see a "Hellgate London" or a "Spore" Episode
He'll eventually get around to HG:L. It's such a well-documented and twisted shitfest.
@@phantomspaceman I would also like to see him talk about Shadows of the Damned and its hellish production that was ruined by EA. While not an awful game, this was not a game Suda51 and Shinji Mikami were proud of.
DUUUUUDE I spent so many hours on hellgate london (in retrospect I'm not so sure if it was that good of a game, but the athmosphere was fantastic)
OWWWWW spore ♥ yes, is upport your notion
I still remember watching the HG:L cinematic trailers as a kid. They were epic and still hold up today.
I miss this series. I still get chills remembering the moment in DS2 when you see the Ishimura docked at the space station. And even moreso when I had to enter it.
Despite not liking Carver much, he did set Isaac up to deliver one of the greatest lines in history: “Good men mean well, we just... don’t always end up doing well...”
BIOHAZARD - R - US This is my favorite game quote of all time. I still quote this line.
FUCK YOU
AND FUCK YOUR MARKER
Edward McGuckin OH MY GOD I FORGOT ABOUT THAT QUOTE LMAO
We also got the "Gas that eats your face" exchange that shows what could've been if their chemistry was worked on.
James Stephanie Sterling in 2017 - "Carver, a hero so memorable I had to look his name up."
Funny that EA marketing thought that the decent into madness aspect was hard to market, but here in the super future of 2019, a Joker movie about that same thing pulled in $700+ million worldwide
Seamus Perkins But how stupid do they have to be to think “oh wow descending into madness is so hard to market for a horror game.” It’s literally a trope that has been around the horror genre forever. Amnesia came out in 2010 and keeping your sanity in check was a big deal. That game was a big success. Seriously, EA marketing team is so far up their asses to think the madness aspect is hard to sell in a horror. Wow, people who see fucked up shit and live in constant fear go crazy and question their sanity. What an unlikely and difficult to understand concept.
That marketing clip where the guy was talking about necros...the cringe, god, I doubt I’ve ever encountered something so cringe before in my life.
"Wanna go shoot some necros, brah?"
A B oh man. Don’t remind me lmao
Peoples commenting about shit they think is "cringe" make me fucking cringe
@@samethbo109 Ugh god what are you some tryhard? Your making me cringe so hard brah
My favourite part of dead space 3 was when I made a rocket launcher/chaingun which trivialised every enemy in the game...
...somewhat killed the suspense.
Yeah, but at least the weapons were really fun to use.
I know this is a year old comment, but I too built a suspense killing weapon:
Automatic spike launcher with an air cannon on the bottom, stasis buffed to slow things down, paired with a plasma cutter so powerful it could literally one shot average necros on normal no matter where it hit them, 3-5 as I climbed harder difficulties in NG+.
One of the worst parts of DS3 imo was letting us build OP ass weapons.
@@DefiantYeast0426 definitely the worst part for sure. It sound like we built the same weapon, having stasis ammo is absurdly OP, and easily kills any suspenses this game has to offer. Smh
@@apg313 it's ironic that this comment is getting a reply at this very moment, cause my SO just started playing Dead Space for the first time!
Enjoy becoming the hunter instead of the hunted. Being terrified of the monsters and later smashing their faces in with contemptuous ease is cathartic.
Ah, yes, one of my favorite horror franchises that could've been great if it weren't for corporate meddling.
In Carver's defense, I actually liked him as a character. He grew on me and I liked his banter with Isaac. Still, it's a shame to hear the devs having something else in mind and being forced to give that up thanks to EA, those greedy fuckers.
I hope one day Dead Space can make a comeback, even bigger and better than ever before. Another great episode of Wha Happun, Mr. McMuscles!
BTW, there's a video here on YT of the spinoff comic with voice acting. It's seriously well made and worth a watch.
Well, at the very least, Sunscorched Studios is making Negative Atmosphere for the dead space-shaped hole in my heart
It’s not gonna be the same. :(
@@partly_sunny1955 change is good my friend
EA: "But why people see us as the bad guy"
Literally everyone: gee, I wonder *why*.
At least that Dead Space fan game is still coming
A fan game, you say?
@@caboosemcgrief negative atmosphere
@@caboosemcgrief nEgAtIvE aTmOsPhErE:)
*007: Everything or Nothing* was and still is my favorite game of all time.
'Twas a sad fate for EA Redwood/Viceral. :-(
My issues with Dead Space 3 -
- Universal AMMO
- BULLET SPONGE enemies in higher difficulties
- Bad enemy design IE: Human like "zombie" Necromorphs
- Poor weapon balancing
- SUITS ARE ONLY COSMETIC = No benefit for wearing a "cool suit"
- Suit Upgrades make you nigh UNKILLABLE
- Weapons can become beyond BROKEN even making the game on HARDCORE feel like a cakewalk
- PAY TO WIN DLC's EXAMPLES: Marauder Pack / Bot accelerator - Bot Capacity / Whiteness the Truth pack (whiteness shotgun and DMR are BROKEN Overpowered )
- Plot holes and annoying characters such as NORTON and weak choice of using Enemies with guns (not dead space anymore, just another Third Person shooter action "thriller")
- Multiplayer making it too easy (I like CO-OP but it makes the game a complete pushover)
- RATION SEALS NOT WORKING ON STEAM
- Crafting system is a pain due to certain recourses not spawning (or pay 5$ for Bot accelerator and Bot capacity to fix that problem)
- Weapon attachments making the weapons EVEN MORE BROKEN
- Annoying Rappel / Climbing sections
- Turning Dead Space into a ACTION COVER SHOOTER rather then the Horror Thriller its always been
- Fear factor and HORROR elements are cheesy and predictable
I can keep going but Dead Space 3 at best is a 4/10
It could have been WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY BETTER but it flopped harder then a catfish in a desert
even the DEAD SPACE MOBILE game is way better and only the quarter of the length of Dead Space 3
I've been playing Dead Space since 2008 and I can say, I will always gladly skip Dead Space 3 as it is a stain on the series (thanks to EA), I only play it when I feel like being goofy with friends but even then you get bored quickly as there is zero challenge once you have +3, +4 and +5 circuits and Attachments.
So no, I would not say Dead Space 3 is an Underrated Gem. I would say its a pile of Horrible Ideas slapped together with duct tape and a rushed story with boring uninteresting filler content like Issacs relationship issues. IE: the ruined Ellies character
Go play DEAD SPACE EXTRACTION (Wii) or the DEAD SPACE MOBILE game if you want a more fun game.
But only thing is, is that DEAD SPACE 3 has CO-OP so if you want CO-OP DEAD SPACE this is your only choice (less you count Dead Space 2 PVP Multiplayer).
You can blame EA for the mess that is this game.
Let me guess, EA?
EA.
Yep
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Thank you for mentioning me. I had worried that no one remembered. I was indeed going to play a part in this game, until I was replaced by that coward Carver. I never left Isaac’s mind, I just didn’t come into play until after the show was over. But now I’m here, and I will not be thrown away again.
Noticed the random use of Eyedol's theme. Neat.
Also, this reminds me of the Dead Space motion comic. I watch it once every few months. It's real good.
this entry makes me SAD, i adore dead space with all my heart.
We'll bang, ok?
@@ItsRawdraft2 o_0 . . . ?
“Waits for Matt to mention that movie: Event Horizon”
Instead mentions:
System Shock 3
Resident Evil 4
Fool, everyone knows EH is a WH40K prequel
Fun fact, the general design for Carver goes as far back as the second game where they also for a short time tried to implement some sort of co-op feature when they were working on the multiplayer. Due to the fact that the multiplayer was rushed they didn't really have time to work out the kinks all that well and benched his design until the third game when they dropped the whole Shadow Isaac thing, and they decided to bring back the Carver design.
Even if I never played a Dead Space game before, I still cheered of excitement when I saw this in the sub feed. Love this series
Basically, publishers never learn that the best thing to do is let the game creators do what they want with the game and see what works instead if thinking they know what's best.
Which is most of the time NOT what's best.
especially when that said publisher's "best" is pretty close to lowest common denominator
I still maintain that Dead Space 3 has one of the best crafting/customization systems in video games. It's not perfect of course, so that's more of a eulogy on crafting systems in video games, but I still love it to bits. Having a stasis-powered chain lightning gun/flamethrower combo is one of the most satisfying guns I've used ever.
I got a buddy into Dead Space 3 lately and I'm reliving the pure cheese strat that was the weapon customization. Shit is morrowind magic all over again.
Once you finally get the hang of it its a blast!
This series makes me so mad.
Just let creators... create! Never interfere with an artists vision! You will almost always fail! I just hope one day these people can all get a chance to make the game they wanted...
Still waiting on Operation Raccoon City/Umbrella Corps
They should've made Carver the main character to give us a fresh take on the marker's influence with a new "hero". Then the Issac/Shadow Issac thing could've been fleshed out better with Issac as a supporting character who picks off the rest of the cast without anyone knowing.
almost 4 am i should slee- ....
in 4 hours time.
"WHA-Happun too your sleep last night?"
Matt Muscles
A whole 18 minutes less sleep! How will you ever function properly throughout the day with such little amount of sleep??
*to
Here to rewatch this in light of recent Dead Space remake... EA kills game series and a whole studio just to make it again few years later, still gonna say the original wasn't profitable...
Here we go, this is the episode where I start drinking.
This was my favourite franchise and EA killed. And just like that, I now HATE EA forever.
I shall never buy another game from EA ever again.
Strike ON! Resist!
Yeah EA is on my fuck you list since 2013 only game i bought from them was funnily enought dead space 2
Time to find out why we’ll never see Isaac Clarke again lol. Good shit man 💯
I finally found the missing element that makes Resident Evil 4 a true masterpiece- the music that plays when you get the invincibility star in Super Mario RPG
15:04 Elton John still standing in the 2300's.
This series is amazing! I’ve watched them all in a matter of a few days and this one hits too close to home. Dead Space being one of, if not, my favorite franchises. Shame to see them go the “Carver” route. A fractured, shadow Isaac would’ve been such a good fit for the series.
Dead space: DS3's file size.
Dead "17 Gigabyte" Space 3
It’s the year 2021 and EA announced a Dead Space remake.
It concerns me how well Kirby music works with dead space. Now I want to see an M rated Kirby game... thanks Matt
16:56 The irony is that Resident Evil 4 was the first big shake up in the main line RE games, and was actually the 6th cannon game in the ENTIRE series.
OTHER M!
OTHER M!
OTHER M!
OTHER M!
THE BABY.
THE BABY.
THE BABY.
THE BABY.
Matt's not authorized to do Other M.
Done
"So I heard you changed System Shock into Dead Space."
"Yes, sir."
"Care to explain yourself?"
"Well, sir. You see. Resident Evil 4 just got released."
"...oh"
*click*
I was really hoping Matt would mention the "Your Mom is Gonna Hate This Game" ad campaign that ran for Dead Space 2
🎵 *"I HURT MYSELF, TODAY..."* 🎵
i don’t know a single thing about dead space BUT i do know that return to dreamland music! great choice 🌟
Thanks!
The System Shock 2 music in the background is superb.
*"I'm sorry...."*
*"Silence the discord!"*
*"Hurry...Run..."*
*"Your song is no ours..."*
I had a blast with this game in high school man, that 'build your own weapon' system was not intuitive to learn at all but once I got it I went really deep into it. I loved the customization of my guns itn really made me feel like Isaac the space engineer. I definitely understand most of the criticisms of the game haha but it was a thumbs up for me.
That's the thing. Game isn't bad, is actually a bonkers fun action shooter with sprinkles of horror here and there, problem is that this wasn't the dead space ppl were expecting. I actually didn't mind that much the game at the time, if that meant they could still realize more games with some new neat ideas... Let's say that visceral's ending was the begining of my hatred towards ea
@@Canalbiruta Agreed, if this were any other game in any other franchise, I’d just consider it a dumb but fun action game. But as a Dead Space game, it’s terrible.
Yh its hard to figure out but once you get the hang of it the crafting system is really fun!
The PC version has one of the weirdest bugs I’ve ever encountered in a game. Not game breaking but annoying and immersion breaking. The bug has those doors with the wheels constantly making a banging noise. It’s stops briefly when opening but then another door in the area will pick it up. I’m guessing it’s the sound clip that plays when opening in a loop rapidly. This is not a rare occurrence either because there are many threads on EA’s forums and elsewhere about this. Thankfully I found a fan written guide to fixing it by removing the sound file from the game.
Every time someone mentions Visceral's shut down I can only think of Strauss' line in Dead Space 2: "It hurts. It still hurts."
Totally unrelated, but... the word "flotilla" causes me to start giggling like a schoolgirl.
In my mind, I always pronounce "flotilla" like "tortilla" (tor-tee-ya). Then I picture a whole bunch of burritos flying through space. Then I get hungry. XD
Some space nachos with some moon cheese 🙃
A Dead Space remake was recently announced for those who haven't heard .
I think this is my favorite series. I feel like I've learned so much about the game industry.
EA: We have a whole buttload of decisions for Dead Space, and your Dev's gonna hate it.
Well, don't worry! The creator of Dead Space is back with a brand new spiritual successor that-
Oh...
Dont worry guys. Now that the team escaped ea, they're making their new dead space game called callisto protocol
Maybe after the success of DS1 remake we can get a DS2 remake and a remade truer version of DS3
we already have a DS3 REMAKE
The editing in these vids is bloody amazing. Well done whoever's doing it!
I'm going to go ahead and say it: I did enjoy Dead Space 3. It wasn't the same as Dead Space 2 or 1, but I was able to have fun with it. I enjoyed the crafting system, I enjoyed blasting necromorphs and exploring the space ships and the ice planet. It was not a bad game. I won't say it was a great game, but I got my $60 worth of entertainment out of it.
I loved it
I enjoyed Dead Space 3. I know it wasn't a horror game, I know the game wanted me to spend extra money, but I had fun. I don't think it makes a lot of sense for one character to be the center of a horror game for more than two games, since at a certain point the main character really wouldn't be that scared of what's going on around them. Isaac wasn't that scared of Necromorphs by 2, insofar as you can tell that Isaac was scared during 1. Thankfully 2 and 3 had plenty of NPCs who were suitably horrified by the madness unfolding around them, and Carver filled the role of 'player character going insane' if you were playing co-op.
EA just announced a remastered Dead Space.
I honestly can't think of anything more insulting that milking the franchise that you killed
Remake not a remaster so it should be way more interesting to see.
@@CoolVids19 I'll pirate it either way
@@abeish03 bruh if you’re gonna play it, buy it. Piracy aids in how studios get shutdown, when they don’t meet sales targets.
@@CoolVids19 the studio is already shut down. Visceral isn't going to make any money off this. Only EA
@@abeish03 you do know a developer is still developing it right. EA is publishing it. EA Motive is the developer and EA is the publisher for this. EA isn’t simply re releasing the old games, they are funding a studio to remake it to obviously gauge interest in the franchise.
The flotilla idea sounds really cool. Like, the Normandy was a huge ship, but imagine if an infection occurs on one or more smaller ships and suddenly the ship layout (with strategic considerations in the macro) becomes your "dungeon" layout in the micro, as you move in to try and salvage what resources and crew you can from the remains?
A kind of mashup of Mass Effect, Sunless Skies, Skull & Bones , F.T.L., and, like, the Bloodborne auto-generated dungeons or the LoZ: Wind Waker map making functionality, but with Dead Space play...
At least there's the remake coming
The third game was also riddled with bugs on launch. Neither of the first two games had that problem.
15:18 im so heart broken we'll never get this sequel
man shadow isaac would have been so cool. The game has one fucking scary part and its one of the sidemissions and you only see it as carver. Hugeass Nutcrackers througout the following areas that only carver can see, and then he has these seizures where you as carver have to fight alone while isaac also fights alone protecting carver and at the end, its a endboss where carver fights childsized agile enemys and his wife, and if you take too long, the isaac player will have a fucking hard time protecting you. It was fucking brilliant, visceral games have insane talent and that was only playable as player 2 on a sidemission.
"hey we don't think this is a good idea"
EA: "WE DON'T CARE WE ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY!
*it doesn't work*
EA: "THIS IS YOUR FAULT YOU COST US MONEY!"
"you made us do this"
I'm very unclear how that guy feels about the pulping...
We may be getting a new DS3 l, hopefully it isn't included in the What Happened roster.
I feel like the weapon crafting in DS3 wasn't a bad idea in principle, but definitely led to multiple problems in the end. Besides the ability to create stasis-tipped electrified sawblades and the like, the ammo was made universal to accommodate the wide variety of weapons, which basically meant you never had to worry about running out of ammo for a particular gun, and it was easy to come by imo. The other big problem I had was that, although you can craft all kinds of interesting weapons, you can only equip two at a time (as opposed to the four that you had in previous games), forcing you to rely on ONLY two of your weapon options and thus actually decreasing your options in any given fight.
Such a fantastic storyline and world. They put a lot of love into Dead Space. I wish things were different.
I recently started Dead Space 3 after getting crazy into this franchise and... it's not bad, but it's not one of my favorites. I am a bit mixed on the amount of changes done, and of course the behind the scenes practices, oh boy.
Wha happun? : THIEF (2014)
All the Thief devs going to Arkane making Dishonored games instead.
I'm here after the remake got announced
This is my first video on your channel I've ever seen. I loved SBFP. And I'm glad you're still posting content!
So EA have now remade Dead space so people can buy the good one AGAIN instead of fixing the problem with the franchise
Dead Space is probably my favorite video game series of all time. Even though it is over and Visceral is gone, I try to look on the bright side: Despite EA trying to drown it at every turn, it still managed to produce 6 games (1, 2, 3, Extraction, Ignition, and mobile) and alot of other cool stuff like books and animated movies. I'll always miss Dead Space and crave more but I'm still very grateful that I got to spend so much time in it's world.
still waiting for the original whahappun for the original human head prey 2
Four years later, despite an amazing remake of the first game, we're somehow back to where we were when this video first uploaded.
I re watch this a few times to just....re-solidfy my hate for EA for gutting one of my favorite horror series of all time.
The short montage of clips at the end of all these episode never cease to be depressing reminders.
What Happened: Batman: Dark Tomorrow.
It's. Just. BAD.
I just want to point out that the Dead Space 2 cost, according to EA, a total $60 million dollars and subsequently sold 4 million copies. If each copy was sold for $60 that's a gross revenue of $240 million dollars. Advertising and marketing, publisher and platform fees would take a fair chunk of that to be sure. But even by fuzzy Hollywood math this is still a good return AND was trending towards the right direction for brand "mind share", etc. My conclusion is that: EA is just stupid.