I just purchased one today, and it is better than i expected. 150 rounds right out of the gate, with zero issues. I was looking for a reliable budget option and took the leap, bc i trust smith and their proven track record. If youre watching this video...GET IT!
@@treyshacklett1346 I believe so, I broke it down and cleaned/oiled it and don’t seem to be having the issue anymore. Going to the range Saturday so we will see.
Its. A GOOD GUN when i got my 1st gen....i had to shave some plastic off the bottom feet of the follower of all 3 of my magazine..then loading a full 16 was easy....its a youtube video on how to do it...with a dremil.
I’ve had mine for about five weeks now and love it. It eats all kinds of ammo, from cheap aluminum Wolf to hollow points, without a problem. I have 500 rounds through it so far. Love the grip angle/feel better than my G19. Like the large slide release too. Can’t believe it was only $299.00. I put a light in it and will use it as a dedicated home defense gun. I usually carry my G43X for EDC
Low price does not mean low quality. It means manufacturers are responding to competitive pressure. They all have injection molding machines and CNC machines. There is no reason for one polymer framed, striker fired handgun to cost more than any other. The days of hand fitting, high polish bluing are long gone. Today's guns use injection molded frames, CNC machined slides and stamped parts. There is no reason (no _real_ reason) for a Glock or FN to cost more than a Canik, Taurus, PSA ...or a S&W SD9.
You are an adult who knew the deal up front. No one is ripping you off. You want another mag, buy it. Thats the deal to market it at that price. 101 stuff. Take it or leave it, rather than whine about it. If SW raised the price to cover 2 mags for an economy beginners market that may not need 2 mags, would you complain about that too? The more people that get into this market, the better for all of us. Maybe they wont vote poorly.
I've had my sd9ve for 7 or 8 years. No malfunction that wasn't ammo or element related. Great trainer pistol. Added an apex trigger. Very nice trigger pull now. Might pick one of these up. Great video. 👍
Fantastic series of pistols. They are extremely reliable and feel fantastic to shoot. Plus, the finger placement molding is really fantastic, and everyone that shoots it makes a note of it to me
I love my SD9ve it was good out the box but it's great with just a few modifications like the Apex trigger kit and a few other things, these guns are cheap and great to modify you can get anything for them.
These SDs and ruger security 9s and maxx 9s are litterly the best reliable and well made bang for the buck you will find and american made, beats and hi point, taurus ,keltec, or sccy , or any budget gun brands, M&P also , but the rugers and these sd you can find around $300 or less thats half the price of brand new glock with same reliabilty and durability, you can beat em, MPs are better imo but are gonna run u around 500 + still cheaper than glock and beats glock wich i love imo with reliabilty, ergonomics, and overall aesthetics
My girl has a security 9 and I’m desperately trying to get her to get rid of it because of how unreliable it is. It’s her first gun and she’s sentimental so I’m not having any luck. Light strikes and locking back with rounds still in the mag are the most common malfunctions, though it’s had some FTE’s as well. It’s the only gun I expect to malfunction when we go to the range. Nice to see yours has been reliable so far. I’m a big fan of SW’s, I have a 2.0 compact and a shield plus, but both of them had a malfunction in the first ~100 rounds. They have been perfect ever since though. The only handguns I own that have had zero malfunctions so far are my APX A1 and a used Gen 4 G26.
@NJLev ive shot the security 9 n the compact with no issues it could be the guide rod rod or spings ive heard some say ive owned 6 rugers mostly p series ec9s and 1911 and never had issues mp and glock are my edc but rugers are well made guns
I understand for people who aren't mechanically inclined the trigger upgrade is probably the nice feature in the new model. Honestly the only thing that I really liked about this over the last generation is the top of the slide with the serrations grooved into it for anti-glare properties. The front and rear slide serrations really are more cosmetics than functional, maybe they give you a little more grip but it looks negligible. I own an SD40VE and I'm getting a crisp 4.5 lb trigger pull with no creep, grit or stryker safety hump. A little take up a wall and a crisp clean break. I went with the Apex trigger duty carry kit and polished all of the contact points within the trigger group. I also opted for the Apex ultimate striker plumger and spring (polished that also). The only spring I omitted from the Apex kit was the trigger return spring I went with an M&P 2.0 unit. That brought my trigger weight right where it needed to be and provided a positive tactile reset that is also audible. Only drawback is the engineered in longer reset. I did shorten it some but if I could shorten it just a tad more it would be ideal. Unfortunately it's the nature of the beast and I think I've taken this as far as I can go, and I'm actually quite happy with it it's become one of my favorites.
Got one and the grip actually feels very good, fired around 250 rounds with zero issues. I did paint the front sight dot bright orange and is now a good self-defense gun or truck gun. I think even S&W are starting to listen to their customers especially in this economy.
Just got one yesterday at Sports Academy for $299 i cant wait to try it out at the range. I'm also glad i still had 2 magazines from my old SD9VE since the price for each magazine is now $40+ taxes.
I have the SD9VE that I installed the Apex flat trigger and spring kit in, From the video it looks like the trigger on the 2.0 is very similar to the results of adding the Apex to the earlier version. Would like to see a side by side comparison.
If you do a little polishing in the right places and just get an apex spring kit that will be really nice. No need to change out the trigger that's already done. At least after 30 years they finally got rid of that horrid hinged trigger.
To answer the question, not necessarily. It's relatve to manufacturer. We both know this community has a high school dynamic. The cool kids would disagree regarding the price. I've never owned one, but wouldn't speak against it for the exact same reason. Thanks 👍🏽🤠
I had the SD40 with the hinged trigger and it was great for the price, trigger was horrible but tolerable. I ended up getting a deal on a Gen 5 G23 and sold it but if your on a budget it’s hard to go wrong and the flat trigger on the M&Ps are awesome.
I'm not sure if S&W will make an optics ready version or not since this is their economy style pistol. Only 1 magazine and no extra grip inserts. It reminds me of the Ruger SR9-E.
I own 2 SW’s, both of them came with a magazine the gun refused to lock open with initially. On my 2.0, I accidentally dropped the mag on the floor and it magically started locking back. With my shield plus, after 1 visit to the range it started locking back. I agree, strange.
The m&p is more expensive and it's a bigger pistol. There's the difference. The m&p is more for duty where the SD line is more for concealed carry personal defense. I own both and I carry the SD a hell of a lot more than I carry the m&p simply because of those reasons. The SD has a shorter slide and grip. And with one in the pipe in my 40 I'm still getting 15 rounds.
Does that go for the Equalizer as well? My girl who has carpal tunnel loved it in the gun store. The Security 9 is pretty easy to rack but the one we have has not been reliable. A lot of others swear by them though, very possible ours just so happens to be a lemon. The M&P compact 2.0 is also relatively easy and smooth to rack. Out of *my* handguns, she likes this one the best because she can actually operate it, something she has difficulty with on my other 9’s. Also has 4 back straps to accommodate different sized hands.
All pistols should have 2mags that has stopped me from purchasing guns if it's cost more money charge more or just lose the sell. There's other guns out there as good or better
The local cops told me that if I shoot someone in total self defense they will take my gun and won't give it back. So why not have a reliable cheap gun compared to others. I now have placed my high dollar Sig in the safe, and have this jewel for self defense. By the way. I got mine for $289 plus tax and shipping. What a deal. Included a $10 off coupon. Where I got it? It rhymes with Buddie.... what a deal...
Exactly.. There's virtually nothing different between the two besides the trigger. Makes no sense to buy this if you can get an older SD/VE for less. You also get two mags..
Not a short take up. I had one years ago it was just awful. This gun for the price is worth a look. I will pick one up as i have many glocks and many other proven guns. This gun will be a truck gun or a gun i can leave at a vacation cabin or tackle box. Trunk gun ect....
I made the mistake of buying this particular pistol. The polymer frame is made of very hard plastic that has a shiny appearance to it. The trigger is really bad. Overall the pistol feels really cheap. It's definitely a low priced 9mm pistol that will serve the purpose for someone who can't or does not want to spend several hundred dollars for something better.
I just purchased one today, and it is better than i expected. 150 rounds right out of the gate, with zero issues. I was looking for a reliable budget option and took the leap, bc i trust smith and their proven track record. If youre watching this video...GET IT!
I just bought one myself and when chambering a round I was having problems with it jamming/not chambering properly
@@ExoticGoose0762 change clips
@@ExoticGoose0762did you get it fixed what's the problem
@@treyshacklett1346 I believe so, I broke it down and cleaned/oiled it and don’t seem to be having the issue anymore. Going to the range Saturday so we will see.
Its. A GOOD GUN when i got my 1st gen....i had to shave some plastic off the bottom feet of the follower of all 3 of my magazine..then loading a full 16 was easy....its a youtube video on how to do it...with a dremil.
I’ve had mine for about five weeks now and love it. It eats all kinds of ammo, from cheap aluminum Wolf to hollow points, without a problem. I have 500 rounds through it so far. Love the grip angle/feel better than my G19. Like the large slide release too.
Can’t believe it was only $299.00. I put a light in it and will use it as a dedicated home defense gun. I usually carry my G43X for EDC
Low price does not mean low quality. It means manufacturers are responding to competitive pressure. They all have injection molding machines and CNC machines. There is no reason for one polymer framed, striker fired handgun to cost more than any other.
The days of hand fitting, high polish bluing are long gone. Today's guns use injection molded frames, CNC machined slides and stamped parts.
There is no reason (no _real_ reason) for a Glock or FN to cost more than a Canik, Taurus, PSA ...or a S&W SD9.
Thanks for the review. IMO, companies providing only one mag are ripping off their customers.
😂
Sell it for $312 and include another mag, too easy
Most self defense first time buyers don’t ever visit the range. It makes sense to include only a single magazine at this price point.
You are an adult who knew the deal up front. No one is ripping you off. You want another mag, buy it. Thats the deal to market it at that price. 101 stuff. Take it or leave it, rather than whine about it. If SW raised the price to cover 2 mags for an economy beginners market that may not need 2 mags, would you complain about that too? The more people that get into this market, the better for all of us. Maybe they wont vote poorly.
@@strikingdistance2898 They will.
I've had my sd9ve for 7 or 8 years. No malfunction that wasn't ammo or element related. Great trainer pistol. Added an apex trigger. Very nice trigger pull now. Might pick one of these up. Great video. 👍
Looks good. Appears to be good upgrades.
I just purchased this gun. This video is a great help. Really appreciate it !
Fantastic series of pistols. They are extremely reliable and feel fantastic to shoot. Plus, the finger placement molding is really fantastic, and everyone that shoots it makes a note of it to me
Can't wait till these are for sale in my state. I like it a lot. The frame looks basically the same, looks like a new slide/upper and better trigger.
I love my SD9ve it was good out the box but it's great with just a few modifications like the Apex trigger kit and a few other things, these guns are cheap and great to modify you can get anything for them.
These SDs and ruger security 9s and maxx 9s are litterly the best reliable and well made bang for the buck you will find and american made, beats and hi point, taurus ,keltec, or sccy , or any budget gun brands, M&P also , but the rugers and these sd you can find around $300 or less thats half the price of brand new glock with same reliabilty and durability, you can beat em, MPs are better imo but are gonna run u around 500 + still cheaper than glock and beats glock wich i love imo with reliabilty, ergonomics, and overall aesthetics
My girl has a security 9 and I’m desperately trying to get her to get rid of it because of how unreliable it is. It’s her first gun and she’s sentimental so I’m not having any luck. Light strikes and locking back with rounds still in the mag are the most common malfunctions, though it’s had some FTE’s as well. It’s the only gun I expect to malfunction when we go to the range. Nice to see yours has been reliable so far.
I’m a big fan of SW’s, I have a 2.0 compact and a shield plus, but both of them had a malfunction in the first ~100 rounds. They have been perfect ever since though. The only handguns I own that have had zero malfunctions so far are my APX A1 and a used Gen 4 G26.
@NJLev ive shot the security 9 n the compact with no issues it could be the guide rod rod or spings ive heard some say ive owned 6 rugers mostly p series ec9s and 1911 and never had issues mp and glock are my edc but rugers are well made guns
I understand for people who aren't mechanically inclined the trigger upgrade is probably the nice feature in the new model. Honestly the only thing that I really liked about this over the last generation is the top of the slide with the serrations grooved into it for anti-glare properties. The front and rear slide serrations really are more cosmetics than functional, maybe they give you a little more grip but it looks negligible. I own an SD40VE and I'm getting a crisp 4.5 lb trigger pull with no creep, grit or stryker safety hump. A little take up a wall and a crisp clean break. I went with the Apex trigger duty carry kit and polished all of the contact points within the trigger group. I also opted for the Apex ultimate striker plumger and spring (polished that also). The only spring I omitted from the Apex kit was the trigger return spring I went with an M&P 2.0 unit. That brought my trigger weight right where it needed to be and provided a positive tactile reset that is also audible. Only drawback is the engineered in longer reset. I did shorten it some but if I could shorten it just a tad more it would be ideal. Unfortunately it's the nature of the beast and I think I've taken this as far as I can go, and I'm actually quite happy with it it's become one of my favorites.
Nice review. There is no excuse for that flash inside the trigger guard. That can be taken care or very quickly with an exacto blade in manufacturing.
Got one and the grip actually feels very good, fired around 250 rounds with zero issues. I did paint the front sight dot bright orange and is now a good self-defense gun or truck gun.
I think even S&W are starting to listen to their customers especially in this economy.
My gen 1 40 cal was not reliable hated that gun but love the m&p 2.0's.
Just got one yesterday at Sports Academy for $299 i cant wait to try it out at the range. I'm also glad i still had 2 magazines from my old SD9VE since the price for each magazine is now $40+ taxes.
I got two mags with mine. Got it at academy.
$299？
Please do a versus video against the czp10c non optic.
Priced the same. Love the channnel.
I have the SD9VE that I installed the Apex flat trigger and spring kit in, From the video it looks like the trigger on the 2.0 is very similar to the results of adding the Apex to the earlier version. Would like to see a side by side comparison.
I have a SW9VE with Acme trigger and springs. I'm curious about how the 2.0 will compare.
I used to own an SD9VE. The fire control group between the SD9VE and the SD9 2.0 are *completely* different. The SD9 2.0 is much closer to an M&P
I wonder if you could retro fit the 2.0 sear group block into the last generation?
Now it m Carbo would build a trigger upgarde it might be a great gun
Ten years in , not a problem ..
Thanks for the review wish they put a better trigger in it you shouldn’t have to get use to it nice looking gun though
If you do a little polishing in the right places and just get an apex spring kit that will be really nice. No need to change out the trigger that's already done. At least after 30 years they finally got rid of that horrid hinged trigger.
To answer the question, not necessarily. It's relatve to manufacturer. We both know this community has a high school dynamic. The cool kids would disagree regarding the price. I've never owned one, but wouldn't speak against it for the exact same reason. Thanks 👍🏽🤠
Does look nice for a budget gun. I feel like if they made one in a sub-compact, and still kept it budget friendly, it'll compete well against the G3C.
Mine is great,no getting used to.
You mentioned player app?
I had the SD40 with the hinged trigger and it was great for the price, trigger was horrible but tolerable. I ended up getting a deal on a Gen 5 G23 and sold it but if your on a budget it’s hard to go wrong and the flat trigger on the M&Ps are awesome.
Excellent review, thanks. What is the MSRP?
349.99
Thanks!@@Tomfoolery82
I'm not sure if S&W will make an optics ready version or not since this is their economy style pistol. Only 1 magazine and no extra grip inserts. It reminds me of the Ruger SR9-E.
Comparing this to the 9E is pretty laughable. (I used to own one.)
I've seen so many S&W jam on 1st round and then run good it happened with 2 EZ platform we have. I think it's a magazine spring issue. Strange.
I own 2 SW’s, both of them came with a magazine the gun refused to lock open with initially. On my 2.0, I accidentally dropped the mag on the floor and it magically started locking back. With my shield plus, after 1 visit to the range it started locking back. I agree, strange.
@@NJLev maybe when put together the spring is compressed, stuck or bound up. Seen So many UA-cam videos that has happened or the Tuber mentioned it. ❓
Why would this be a viable purchase with the M&P 2.0 being such a good purchase. Save your money & get the 2.0 that comes with 2 mags
The m&p is more expensive and it's a bigger pistol. There's the difference. The m&p is more for duty where the SD line is more for concealed carry personal defense. I own both and I carry the SD a hell of a lot more than I carry the m&p simply because of those reasons. The SD has a shorter slide and grip. And with one in the pipe in my 40 I'm still getting 15 rounds.
Extra magazines available on Gun Broker....
I'm cleaning my SD9VE as I watch ...
You can find the CZ p10 for that same price on the internet I saw it in a couple sites and much better gun🤔😳
I would assume a P10 would be better
What 9mm would you recommend for a woman? Has to be fairly easy to rack the slide. One that I’m not a fan of is the S&W EZ line.
Does that go for the Equalizer as well? My girl who has carpal tunnel loved it in the gun store.
The Security 9 is pretty easy to rack but the one we have has not been reliable. A lot of others swear by them though, very possible ours just so happens to be a lemon.
The M&P compact 2.0 is also relatively easy and smooth to rack. Out of *my* handguns, she likes this one the best because she can actually operate it, something she has difficulty with on my other 9’s. Also has 4 back straps to accommodate different sized hands.
Get a Ruger Security 380
@@TTime685 my wife loves her security 380
As of march 29 2024 price is 299 at my gun store.
All pistols should have 2mags that has stopped me from purchasing guns if it's cost more money charge more or just lose the sell. There's other guns out there as good or better
2024, they should have put a ambi slide release on it.
Now on a budget firearm.
The local cops told me that if I shoot someone in total self defense they will take my gun and won't give it back. So why not have a reliable cheap gun compared to others. I now have placed my high dollar Sig in the safe, and have this jewel for self defense. By the way. I got mine for $289 plus tax and shipping. What a deal. Included a $10 off coupon. Where I got it? It rhymes with Buddie.... what a deal...
If you already have a VE pistol, just buy an Apex trigger for $60 and call it a day… This new 2.0 isnt different except the trigger
Exactly.. There's virtually nothing different between the two besides the trigger. Makes no sense to buy this if you can get an older SD/VE for less. You also get two mags..
Will the magazines from the previous SD9 work in this new version SD9?
Yes
Yes, I bought the SD9 2.0 yesterday and it comes with the same magazine as the ones I still had from my old SD9.
@@ramongonzalez1564 Why would you buy this one lol..
@@TTime685 why not? For the price its a good gun.
@@ramongonzalez1564 Because it's virtually the same gun.. Minus one magazine. 💁🏼♂️
Not a short take up. I had one years ago it was just awful. This gun for the price is worth a look. I will pick one up as i have many glocks and many other proven guns. This gun will be a truck gun or a gun i can leave at a vacation cabin or tackle box. Trunk gun ect....
Do SD9VE mags fit this new model???
Yes
Do they both take the same mags?
They are magazine compatible
Hopefully it's not less accurate than it was, SD9VE has been incredibly durable, and reliable. Nice to have a new trigger, but is it still 8 LB's?
About 5lbs less than my glock and heavier than my canik
WILL SD9 1.0 MAGS WORK IN THIS NEW PISTOL ?
Yes
Just has a better trigger, better off keeping original sdve and upgrade to apex trigger.
Yeah i had this gun in 40SW and it was total junk the guide rod was made of plastic and it broke about 30 rounds in
They don’t make this in a 40.
@@JayzBeerz they use too
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So, the trigger goes click-click-BOOM. Just like a double Action revolver. My suggestion is to think of SD9 2.0 as a nice, flat, 17-round revolver.
Thanks HS. Great job. Good info. God bless.
LETS GO BRANDON
Trigger pull?
Disappointed.. they needed to upgrade the pistol grip.
I made the mistake of buying this particular pistol. The polymer frame is made of very hard plastic that has a shiny appearance to it. The trigger is really bad. Overall the pistol feels really cheap. It's definitely a low priced 9mm pistol that will serve the purpose for someone who can't or does not want to spend several hundred dollars for something better.
Kinda wish it takes Glock magazines
Save up for a better piece
They used to be a bargain. But overpriced now.
Didn't glock take smith to court over this pistol over patent infringement? It sure looked like a glock in the fire control. Have a good day. 🇺🇲🌲🔥🔪
That was the sigma and that was over 10 years ago if I remember correctly.
@@NJLevMore like 30 years ago.
Not a bad gun, it just has a horrible trigger.