@@michasowa3310 so it wouldn't be one of my videos without getting a name wrong somehow, but that's a new one even for me. I've been literally misreading her name for half a decade at this point. Zu-ley-ka is going to take some getting used to. >_
@@kegofort the collection pack? It's got a good mix of different miniatures and silhouettes, and all the sculpts should be quite modern, so probably yes. It's hard to speculate on specific profiles with the new edition so close, though.
Today we're continuing our faction focus series with the beloved (or hated, depending on your perspective) vanilla Haqqislam. Kings of the efficient and effective, these bad boys can fit so much capability in a single list.
Lovely video, thank you! Watching these is really informative even as a non-Haqq player as OpFor analysis. Not sure if Nomads is enough in your wheelhouse to support a faction focus, but I'd be curious to see what that would look like. I feel like Nomads get pigeonholed into GML a bit much online. As a non-Haqq player I appreciate the sample list in the end, as an overview. If I played the faction, I'd be tempted to just run the list as is, or use it as a guidepost. Maybe an option would be to show sets of units that could work together, like typical hacking package, typical midfield deterrence package, typical shooter package.
Nomads are a faction I played an absolute ton in early N4 and then stepped away from because we had other locals playing it and I wanted to enable a bit of meta diversity. But I can absolutely speak about them at some point. :)
It was good to hear your thoughts about units in my favorite faction. I dont agree about Hunzacut, but I understand and respect your calculations. Thank you also for promoting the Bokhtar Paramedic Lt. It is such a fun model that adds something different to Haqqislam. We appreciate everything you do for the Infinity community with these videos!
Yippee yippee yippee! Got started with infinity recently and just immediately dropped 450 USD on haqq basically immediately. Infinity is incredibly difficult but even more rewarding, having a ton of fun learning the game. I appreciate the video!
Robert covers tohaa, "omg I got to get them!". Yu Jing? "Why did I sell them I'm so stupid!". Now haqqslam is my new faction, I'm buying them first thing in the monday morning. Thanks for the hole in my wallet, Robert! xD
That's part of the goal of the series but, uh, remember that a new edition is about a month away, so things will change! But most of what I've said here should transfer over, and if in doubt you're actually on solid footing buying models you think look cool - the community is friendly to using them to proxy other profiles.
@@errata2412 how the game will broadly play should stay overwhelmingly the same, but many profiles will have updates, and there will be some profiles cut (vanilla factions especially will be trimmed down as many of them are un-navigable right now) to make room for new units. Otherwise, I've done some videos about what we know about the new edition so far - there's a playlist for them on the channel.
I have some battle reports on Starmada, but they're all back from when the Oko power hour (ITS season 14) was happening. But I do hope to cover them as a faction eventually. :)
Asawira used to be more expensive with lower armor. The additional buffs from a Pro-HB N4 Beta Tester created an overly tuned profile that makes Pano folks jealous.
JSA would be an interesting one. That might come with a stronger than usual caveat of "these are my takes but this time around they're backed up by very limited experience", but it'd be a fun one to discuss.
Eventually, absolutely. It'll be bumped up the list if either a) a channel member or supporter specifically requests it, or b) someone says something wrong enough about Dashat on the internet to rile me up. ;)
These are so guud. I'd like to ask what your opinion is on Vanilla factions and sectorials. Are they balanced? I'm no strategic genius, but from a flavor perspective I just hate vanilla factions. I call them soup factions, and from a Lore perspective I don't understand why they can't use fireteams and I can't see why sectorials can't use mercenaries. I wish there were just more sectorials instead of this strange dichotomy
So I'll answer (not that it was strictly a question) the thing about fireteams first - this was actually all covered way back when sectorials were first introduced. You can think of a vanilla army as a small force that command cobbles together out of whoever is available. Take Haqqislam high command - someone somewhere in the Mutafawiq decides that something dangerous needs to be done on short notice and they call in favours and get a few Ghulam troops, a Mukhtar, some Muttawiah, a few desert tribesman, an operative of the Old Man who's in the area, etc together onto a dropship and they hit the ground running. By comparison, a sectorial army represents the same force but pulled all from one fighting formation (the Ramah Taskforce, the Hassassins, etc), perhaps because they were available with more forward planning, or perhaps this isn't high command organising this, it's specifically the Hassassins or an officer in the Ramah Taskforce, or the captain of a Qapu Khalqi ship. In this case, these soldiers trained together, they've drilled together, they know each other and they can fight in a more coordinated way. Hence - Fireteams. And with all that in mind I like the flavour difference between the two. I'm a 'big picture' kind of flavour person, though. I like the vibe and ethos of Haqqislam, it's compelling and hopeful. Things like unit backstories are a bit secondary to that as the models will develop their own stories as I play them independent of how badass the game writers tell me they are, so the specifics of the sectorial vs vanilla backstories are something I know, but don't think about too much.
Thank you very much for this. Haqqislam was my starting faction and still my favourite. Played a variation on your sample list today and won 5:1 in B-Pong against Acontecimento. gZEJaGFxcWlzbGFtBkIgUG9uZ4EsAgEBAAkAgVABAgAAgUoBAQAAhSEBBQAAgVEBAQAAgVEBAgAAgT4BAQAAgTgBAgAAgUIBhHIAAIFBAYRxAAIBAAcAg6sBAQAAgUsBAQAAgS0BCAAAgU0BAQAAhPsBBAAAgVQBAwAAgUMBBgA%3D
@@R0bertShepherd Hm, works for me in the browser app. But I just replaced the Asawira with Saladin, the Farzan with an Al'Hawwa hacker and with the freed points upgraded a Muttawiah to a Liberto.
Note: as of a relatively recent FAQ, Zulekya can stack the burst bonus from her pistols with her native +1B in CC. Thanks @KyoCD for picking this up!
I'll be "that guy" that points it out - her name is Zu-ley-ka not Zu-le-kya xd
@@michasowa3310 so it wouldn't be one of my videos without getting a name wrong somehow, but that's a new one even for me. I've been literally misreading her name for half a decade at this point.
Zu-ley-ka is going to take some getting used to. >_
Do you think the CodeOne box for HAQQ is worthwhile buy for the faction?
@@kegofort the collection pack? It's got a good mix of different miniatures and silhouettes, and all the sculpts should be quite modern, so probably yes. It's hard to speculate on specific profiles with the new edition so close, though.
@R0bertShepherd that's quite fair. It's on sale for a good price, so I'm tempted, $260US with normal price being listed as $315
Robert Shepherd: "Haqqislam faction focus"
Me after Dune 2: "As written"
Oh my god, the "Just let them discover your daylami, they'll have to spend another order to shoot it" has just improved my tactics twofold! 0_0
Today we're continuing our faction focus series with the beloved (or hated, depending on your perspective) vanilla Haqqislam. Kings of the efficient and effective, these bad boys can fit so much capability in a single list.
Great to see more faction focuses from you, I hope there'll be one on vanilla CA too!
Planning to :)
I love how most the best units are HB with just a touch of kum.
YEAH!!!! MORE FOCUS! ❤
Lovely video, thank you! Watching these is really informative even as a non-Haqq player as OpFor analysis.
Not sure if Nomads is enough in your wheelhouse to support a faction focus, but I'd be curious to see what that would look like. I feel like Nomads get pigeonholed into GML a bit much online.
As a non-Haqq player I appreciate the sample list in the end, as an overview. If I played the faction, I'd be tempted to just run the list as is, or use it as a guidepost.
Maybe an option would be to show sets of units that could work together, like typical hacking package, typical midfield deterrence package, typical shooter package.
Nomads are a faction I played an absolute ton in early N4 and then stepped away from because we had other locals playing it and I wanted to enable a bit of meta diversity. But I can absolutely speak about them at some point. :)
@@R0bertShepherd Dope, I hope you get around to that at some point. Rock on!
It was good to hear your thoughts about units in my favorite faction. I dont agree about Hunzacut, but I understand and respect your calculations. Thank you also for promoting the Bokhtar Paramedic Lt. It is such a fun model that adds something different to Haqqislam. We appreciate everything you do for the Infinity community with these videos!
I've made my peace with being the black sheep when it comes to Hunzakuts. :)
Yippee yippee yippee! Got started with infinity recently and just immediately dropped 450 USD on haqq basically immediately. Infinity is incredibly difficult but even more rewarding, having a ton of fun learning the game. I appreciate the video!
Don't forget you could throw the maghariba guard at interlopers so it's good to have in your miniatures case
Haqq feels like the perfect “A Jack of all trades, but master of none, is still better than a master of one” mindset
Awesome. Keep them comming! :)
Zuleyka CC Attack (+1B) does stack with the +2B on the breaker pistols in CC for an effective Burst 4 cc attack with breaker
True! This changed in a relatively recent FAQ and I hadn't actually caught the significance of the couple words they removed. Good catch!
@@R0bertShepherd Yup, and therefore makes Zuleyka one of deadliest (if not the deadliest) cc piece in the game
Incredibly useful video, thanks! =)
I would ❤ a deep dive on sval, and their MVP, the beasthunter-karhu powercouple.
Greetings from germany
Thanks Rob! Sweet of you to throw a sample list for newcomers!
An interesting list at the end of the video is a good thing. Keep doing good things.
Robert covers tohaa, "omg I got to get them!". Yu Jing? "Why did I sell them I'm so stupid!". Now haqqslam is my new faction, I'm buying them first thing in the monday morning. Thanks for the hole in my wallet, Robert! xD
I seriously love this kind of content! Would it be possibe to have a look at JSA and/or Bakunin in the near future? 😊
I might need to get a guest on to talk through either of those, but I'll see what I can do :)
@@R0bertShepherd I can come on and guest talk about JSA. It will be WRONG, but I can do it.
Yay so happy this dropped
Great video. Would love to see another on HB and the craziness of Asawira fireteams and AVA 2 Fiday
Thanks for the sample list and the review!
Ghazi is Wip 15. I am the single tear shed old school HB player. Used that 15 to intuitive out camo with a lot of success.
thanks! Listening now, as a new player trying to figure out what to buy and whats the most efficient buys is hard. seems this may help
That's part of the goal of the series but, uh, remember that a new edition is about a month away, so things will change! But most of what I've said here should transfer over, and if in doubt you're actually on solid footing buying models you think look cool - the community is friendly to using them to proxy other profiles.
@@R0bertShepherd yeah cool things is what I'm looking at now.
How much will change in this edition? Any idea?
@@errata2412 how the game will broadly play should stay overwhelmingly the same, but many profiles will have updates, and there will be some profiles cut (vanilla factions especially will be trimmed down as many of them are un-navigable right now) to make room for new units.
Otherwise, I've done some videos about what we know about the new edition so far - there's a playlist for them on the channel.
@@R0bertShepherd gotcha that makes sense!
Woah big video!
Are you planning on covering Starmada any time soon? Cause I would love a video about my blue bois
I have some battle reports on Starmada, but they're all back from when the Oko power hour (ITS season 14) was happening. But I do hope to cover them as a faction eventually. :)
Asawira used to be more expensive with lower armor. The additional buffs from a Pro-HB N4 Beta Tester created an overly tuned profile that makes Pano folks jealous.
I don't think they're auto-include though. Definitely very tuned.
@@headchime9217 agree. But it is one of those overcorrected and not needed issues.
Another banger. Would you be keen on a JSA faction focus once youve gotten through all the big requests?
JSA would be an interesting one. That might come with a stronger than usual caveat of "these are my takes but this time around they're backed up by very limited experience", but it'd be a fun one to discuss.
@@R0bertShepherd Always some Melbourne players who know their business who could shed light on it.
Can we get a dahshat focus 😅
Eventually, absolutely. It'll be bumped up the list if either a) a channel member or supporter specifically requests it, or b) someone says something wrong enough about Dashat on the internet to rile me up. ;)
Thanks
You're very welcome :)
These are so guud. I'd like to ask what your opinion is on Vanilla factions and sectorials. Are they balanced? I'm no strategic genius, but from a flavor perspective I just hate vanilla factions. I call them soup factions, and from a Lore perspective I don't understand why they can't use fireteams and I can't see why sectorials can't use mercenaries. I wish there were just more sectorials instead of this strange dichotomy
So I'll answer (not that it was strictly a question) the thing about fireteams first - this was actually all covered way back when sectorials were first introduced. You can think of a vanilla army as a small force that command cobbles together out of whoever is available. Take Haqqislam high command - someone somewhere in the Mutafawiq decides that something dangerous needs to be done on short notice and they call in favours and get a few Ghulam troops, a Mukhtar, some Muttawiah, a few desert tribesman, an operative of the Old Man who's in the area, etc together onto a dropship and they hit the ground running.
By comparison, a sectorial army represents the same force but pulled all from one fighting formation (the Ramah Taskforce, the Hassassins, etc), perhaps because they were available with more forward planning, or perhaps this isn't high command organising this, it's specifically the Hassassins or an officer in the Ramah Taskforce, or the captain of a Qapu Khalqi ship. In this case, these soldiers trained together, they've drilled together, they know each other and they can fight in a more coordinated way. Hence - Fireteams.
And with all that in mind I like the flavour difference between the two. I'm a 'big picture' kind of flavour person, though. I like the vibe and ethos of Haqqislam, it's compelling and hopeful. Things like unit backstories are a bit secondary to that as the models will develop their own stories as I play them independent of how badass the game writers tell me they are, so the specifics of the sectorial vs vanilla backstories are something I know, but don't think about too much.
PANOCEANIA PLS 🥲
Oh boy can't wait to disagree with this video /s 😂
Looking forward to a Combined Army Faction Focus. Great work!
Thank you very much for this. Haqqislam was my starting faction and still my favourite. Played a variation on your sample list today and won 5:1 in B-Pong against Acontecimento.
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The list code isn't working for me for some reason, but glad to hear it :)
@@R0bertShepherd Hm, works for me in the browser app. But I just replaced the Asawira with Saladin, the Farzan with an Al'Hawwa hacker and with the freed points upgraded a Muttawiah to a Liberto.
@@RalfSchemmann very nice. :)