Why Do People... Hate the Magic Kingdom?

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  • Опубліковано 18 кві 2024
  • Is the Magic Kingdom a bad park? People certainly seem to think so. If you compare it to other castle parks, whether it be Disneyland or the versions in Tokyo, Paris, Hong Kong or Shanghai, I can see why people might prefer those for a number of reasons. As someone who prefers Disneyland to magic Kingdom though, even I think that a lot of criticism for the park is overly harsh and contrarian, overlooking the park's strengths, which there are a significant amount of. Magic Kingdom many not have the best versions of rides like Big Thunder Mountain or It's a Small World, but they are definitely unique. I also think that the park has the best versions of certain rides, which includes the Jungle Cruise, the Haunted Mansion and, divisively, even Space Mountain. This isn't to mention all the exclusive attractions to the park like the Hall of Presidents or the Carousel of Progress. So, weirdly, I'm going to be dedicating a video just to defending the Magic Kingdom, because it really does deserve to be treated better than recent discourse has chosen to do.
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  • @MagCynic
    @MagCynic Місяць тому +995

    Disney's current strategy: "PUT AN IP ON IT! MAKE IT LAME!"

    • @MonsterKidCory
      @MonsterKidCory Місяць тому +53

      Yep... I've been seeing stuff about the expansions at Disneyland and asking if you're most excited about a Frozen land or a Tangled land or a Wakanda or whatever. None of the above. I'd be way more interested in seeing a more conceptual land like the old Adventureland, Frontierland, Fantasyland, etc. instead of a single-IP land. Even my favourite single-IP land - Mysterious Island in Tokyo - drew from a broader source of inspiration.

    • @emilyrhea5077
      @emilyrhea5077 Місяць тому +35

      MORE SCREEEEEEENS!

    • @solcarlosofficial
      @solcarlosofficial Місяць тому +11

      What’s the wrong with IP?
      If I go to Disney I want to be inside the movies I grew up with.
      I truly don’t understand the hate for IP.

    • @MagCynic
      @MagCynic Місяць тому +53

      @@solcarlosofficial Relying on IPs is a creative shortcut for the parks. This shows in the final product. For example, far more creative input went into Maelstrom than it did for Frozen Ever After.

    • @cosmicthunder25
      @cosmicthunder25 Місяць тому +40

      @@solcarlosofficial I think it's less the IP itself, but more so that they're retheming beloved attractions with modern IP as quick cash grab. See: Maelstrom, Splash Mountain, Great Movie Ride, ect.
      Also the fact that most of their IPs in recent years are bad

  • @JW-cm2er
    @JW-cm2er Місяць тому +452

    I wouldn't say the Magic Kingdom is a bad park, but the experience of going there is NOT at all what it once was. Poor maintenance, overcrowding, and Genie+ are all very real reasons why many people that go there feel as if it's a ripoff.

    • @weston407
      @weston407 Місяць тому +36

      Overcrowding truly does make it bad. I went there last April and it was miserable. The heat is what it is - it’s central Florida - but the crowd was insufferable. Also, Genie+ is a convoluted and expensive pain in the ass.

    • @MatecaCorp
      @MatecaCorp Місяць тому +7

      I’m so glad I was fortunate enough to have my first and only visit to WDW be right before the Chapek spiral really started. I barely have a desire to visit anymore.

    • @phillips2683
      @phillips2683 Місяць тому +1

      The only Disney parks I’ve been to has been the “World and Epcot...many times “.

    • @FlyRick78
      @FlyRick78 Місяць тому

      @@weston407 Genie+ is easy to use in my experience and compare it to $300+ for Universal Express that doesn't even help you get on Hagrid's faster.

    • @andrewschannel4259
      @andrewschannel4259 Місяць тому +1

      It's not magical when you're crammed in with thousands of other people

  • @an4189
    @an4189 Місяць тому +296

    I think the hate is that it should be the best Disney park in the world. There is no excuse for building a worse version of a ride here, it has the biggest crowds, most space and brings in the most money of any Disney park. It should be treated like the flagship park with interesting and unique attractions that are the best of disney.

    • @wemdoe
      @wemdoe Місяць тому +9

      Good point.

    • @davids6898
      @davids6898 Місяць тому +25

      Problem is that will be impossible to ever achieve. Disneyland will always be the flagship Disney park for the simple reason it is the only park that Walt designed and stepped foot in. Magic Kingdom is cheapened because today’s imagineers do not put their best into it. Slapping an IP on something is just that. And Disneyland is cheapened for the same reason. If it weren’t for the fact of its history with Walt Disney it would be far inferior.

    • @an4189
      @an4189 Місяць тому +17

      @@davids6898 I agree to an extent on the history view of the parks, but economically and publicly (especially internationally) magic kingdom should be the most important park. However, even if it is an IP ride they put in the park, it should be something other parks look at and think we would love that in our park.

    • @an4189
      @an4189 Місяць тому +5

      @@wemdoelove Poseidon but even when he was trying to point out the good points it was always caveatted with this ride is actually better elsewhere.

    • @LeftCoastDrones
      @LeftCoastDrones Місяць тому +19

      The undeserved popularity of Magic Kingdom is exactly the reason Disney doesn't feel the need to make it better. People will go to Orlando no matter what because they make it a weeks long vacation so there's no need to give 100% on it. Whereas Anaheim is mainly a locals park, so Disney feels pressure to make it as good as it can be or the locals will take their money elsewhere.

  • @Chaogod1233
    @Chaogod1233 Місяць тому +514

    "And ruin one of my favorite rides"
    I am with you on that brother. Its gonna be a very sad day when Dinosaur leaves us.

    • @NinthShinigami
      @NinthShinigami Місяць тому +21

      Fr dude and I freaking bleed Indiana Jones. I don’t want it like this tho 😭

    • @councilofkarens729
      @councilofkarens729 Місяць тому +14

      I visited Dinosaur just after it opened and again in 2018. Still as good as ever, even though it shook my fillings loose. LOL

    • @ScallywagBeowulf
      @ScallywagBeowulf Місяць тому +11

      Has Dinosaur even been updated since it opened? Seems like every time I ride it nothing works properly and I’m just sitting in darkness the entire time without being able to see anything else.
      I know some people love it, but I really don’t think it’s that good a ride.

    • @fightingarrow510
      @fightingarrow510 Місяць тому +3

      My 2nd favorite ride 😢

    • @connor_who
      @connor_who Місяць тому +7

      I loved Dinosaur and I’m sad I won’t get a chance to ride it again before it goes. It sucks that universal will have the monopoly on Dinosaur themed rides in the parks. I would have loved for Disney to go for a more current understanding of Dinosaur and educational route as an update to the land that the Jurassic license doesn’t allow over in Universal but alas that won’t be happening.

  • @mrjuanchoca4294
    @mrjuanchoca4294 Місяць тому +140

    The one thing that makes Disneyland superior to Magic Kingdom overall: California's weather is unmatched compared to Florida's unpredictable weather and humidity.

    • @weston407
      @weston407 Місяць тому +7

      I live in Orlando and I second that and I’ve never even been to Disneyland - it’s miserable here like 9 months out of the year 🥵🥵🥵

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +38

      Yeah, Disneyland weather is absolutely a lot better. The people are much nicer and better behaved too.

    • @LeftCoastDrones
      @LeftCoastDrones Місяць тому +8

      Disneyland has less humidity, thus the churros are crunchier and tastier.

    • @purplemist7
      @purplemist7 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@LeftCoastDronesNot to mention, no alligators!

    • @LeftCoastDrones
      @LeftCoastDrones Місяць тому +1

      @@purplemist7 Yup.

  • @andynava5144
    @andynava5144 Місяць тому +280

    It's so frustrating for Disney to continue to double down on strategies that are only harming their reputation and their stock prices 🙄

    • @Marden04
      @Marden04 Місяць тому +21

      Odd take.
      1) Their reputation is fine except among conservative trolls on social media.
      2) Announcements that they are investing in the parks typically leads to stock prices dropping, not increasing. Shareholders don't give a rip about the parks.

    • @weston407
      @weston407 Місяць тому +40

      @@Marden04ratio’d

    • @Marden04
      @Marden04 Місяць тому +11

      @@weston407 Oh no. Not that.

    • @MatecaCorp
      @MatecaCorp Місяць тому +23

      Which strategies do you mean? If you’re referring to penny pinching and money grubbing then I agree.

    • @weston407
      @weston407 Місяць тому +6

      @@Marden04 yup

  • @hyruleanraven81
    @hyruleanraven81 Місяць тому +133

    Finally visited Disneyland this year as I have only visited Disney World since my youth. I have to say, Disney puts more love into Disneyland. It was cleaner, more detailed, and better ride experiences. The dark rides are a major plus to Disneyland as those are the soul of the park. When Magic Kingdom began removing those rides, it destroyed the charm it once had. Loved the fact many of the hollywood studios rides were in Disneyland. Hollywood studios alone is wasted money.

    • @aqilbinnoorazman365
      @aqilbinnoorazman365 Місяць тому +2

      Agreed

    • @James_Ford4815
      @James_Ford4815 Місяць тому +3

      i went to disneyland for the first time in 20 years despite only living 45min away and just want to know what's up with every dark ride now having extreme neon colors everywhere.

    • @cstaber
      @cstaber Місяць тому

      You forgot the food in Disneyland is a million times better than the mass produced slop served to the masses at MK

    • @TayWoode
      @TayWoode Місяць тому +4

      @@James_Ford4815do you mean the small rides like Peter Pan and Mr Toad etc? They’ve always been painted in neon with blacklights so it looks closer to the cartoon and a lot of it hides the machinery that doesn’t glow under the uv lights

    • @sha2596
      @sha2596 Місяць тому +2

      What is this love of dark rides? It’s like people love dark internal people movers. I don’t find the lack of dark rides a problem at MK, I find the lack of thrilling rides a problem.

  • @lizgreer6888
    @lizgreer6888 Місяць тому +88

    My Dad was 54 when I was born and had heart issues. At Magic Kingdom and Epcot there was plenty for us to ride or experience as a family. We went to Universal once and Dad spent most of the day sitting by himself waiting for us. We never went back because in that regard Universal was a waste of money. Disney will always hold a special place in my heart. It was a place all of us could have fun together. Dad died 6 years ago and Disney vacations are some of our fondest memories

    • @jonleibow3604
      @jonleibow3604 28 днів тому +3

      I had a similar experience at Cedar Point, it was all extreme thrill rides or nothing. Disney is tops in fun for the whole family.

    • @edwardjones1482
      @edwardjones1482 26 днів тому +1

      @@jonleibow3604 I see you guys are still Disney fans don’t let the stupid negativity influence you guys into hating something you loved your whole lives

    • @grayrabbit2211
      @grayrabbit2211 22 дні тому +2

      @@edwardjones1482 Don't let the reality that Disney doesn't care about you anymore get in the way of your memories of better times.

    • @grayrabbit2211
      @grayrabbit2211 22 дні тому

      I agree about Universal vs. Disney, although Disney's falling into that trap. Horizons was replaced with Mission:Space, complete with barf bags in each pod. Guardians of the Galaxy replaced World of Energy. 20,000 Leagues under the Sea was replaced with a very lame 7 Dwarfs coaster which was built for Asian bodies; always fun to watch Americans try to shoehorn themselves into those tiny seats and restraints.

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar 22 дні тому +1

      Universal has a lot of rides he can do especially studios tho ioa I agree

  • @coppertopolo
    @coppertopolo Місяць тому +154

    While I admire you coming to the 'defense' of the Magic Kingdom - I think most visitors to Orlando will agree that WDW is no longer the attraction it used to be. With the opening of Epic Universe, I think people will be putting the Universal Parks at the top of their list - and only visit WDW if they have time and money left over. BTW, I don't think it is necessary for you to keep repeating the phrase ' in my opinion ' - I think most of us realize that these videos ARE your opinion.

    • @AJR-zg2py
      @AJR-zg2py Місяць тому +10

      I'm 100% sure Disney is shitting itself as opening day for Epic Universe gest closer and closer.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +15

      Once the 2023 TEA report comes out, I think that there'll be an interesting discrepancy in attendance numbers between MK and Disneyland. Last summer was pretty light and this one seems to be shaping up to be much worse, if what travel agents are reporting is correct.

    • @Jay-wk9xj
      @Jay-wk9xj Місяць тому +3

      Anybody that frequently visits both universal and disney knows that universal isn't even close to the quality of disney in any way... Except if you're talking about sickening screen rides and underwhelming rushed theming. But universal fans keep making the mistake of pretending, like universal even tries to achieve the same quality....They don't... their whole thing is Just to get the things open as fast as possible and then change them out every few years. They have surprisingly few legacy attractions that anybody cares about after the first few years.

    • @cuttinol
      @cuttinol Місяць тому +5

      While I agree that Epic Universe will take a good chunk of Disney's market share, to say that people will ONLY go to Disney if they have time left is...delusional. The target audience of the fantastical and thrilling Epic Universe is very different than the target audience of Disney's princess and cutesy theme. Let's also be aware that Epic Universe is a 2 day at most singular park, there will be plenty of time for family's on week long vacations to split their time between the 2 parks.

    • @AJR-zg2py
      @AJR-zg2py Місяць тому +3

      @@Jay-wk9xj But Epic Universe could open the door for Universal in a significant way - because lots of people keep getting priced out of WDW each year and go to Universal instead. WDW is increasingly becoming a park for the rich now.

  • @adammayo4377
    @adammayo4377 15 днів тому +6

    My biggest problem with Magic Kingdom is the millions of strollers being pushed around by extremely rude parents. Last time I went there I had a full blown panic attack from the chaos. The rides are fine and nostalgic. I definitely prefer Universal since it skews older and guests are nicer and less stressed out.

  • @traciecombs7030
    @traciecombs7030 Місяць тому +41

    Animal Kingdom is our favorite park! It has the perfect mix of rides, shows, streetmoshere, and great food- not to mention animal experiences & animation classes. Every detail is meticulously executed. With the subtle addition of Joe Rohde on the payroll again it seems they are committed to making this expansion as smooth as possible. (People were very opposed to pandora & look what we got!)

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +9

      I still hate the idea of removing Dinoland, but I can't complain about Rohde being back. It still remains to be seen how much of a role he will have though.

    • @dhi1145
      @dhi1145 Місяць тому +3

      @@PoseidonEntertainmentIf they retheme DinoLand to South America, I think it would be really clever to keep some version of Dinosaur intact. Carnotaurus is a South American animal!

    • @grayrabbit2211
      @grayrabbit2211 22 дні тому +2

      @@PoseidonEntertainment I don't have a problem with them getting rid of Dinoland as it was always poorly implemented, but they should use the opportunity for something big and major...but they're not. The right thing would have been to keep the dinosaur theming and go over-the-top with it.

    • @bryan81584
      @bryan81584 16 годин тому +1

      I absolutely loved Expedition Everest. I grew up on Disneyland in California, and while Magic Kingdom didn't impress much, Animal Kingdom was wholly unique and pretty cool.

  • @NinthShinigami
    @NinthShinigami Місяць тому +155

    The hate is overblown imo, but I can see why people don’t like it as much. When you compare it to Disneyland, it’s clear that’s got a little more love from the company than Magic Kingdom. The rides primarily, but also just how preserved it’s been, even in its theming. Magic Kingdom’s Fantasyland is pretty boring when you see how Disneyland has theirs. Also, the crowds have gotten so insane as of late. Last time I went I only got to do like 5 or 6 rides tops 💀 as a kid we coulda gotten the whole park done in a day, but not anymore. So poor crowd management is another issue…
    I still enjoy all the neat little details tho, like the ones you pointed out here :)

    • @branballistick
      @branballistick Місяць тому +2

      Why I hate it is that it's so miserable to get to (I don't think I've ever ridden the monorail where it didn't stop on the track for 10 minutes). Also it's SO FULL of strollers it's obnoxious and ruins the charm.
      I'm an AP holder and the only time I go to MK is if someone is visiting and bribes me lol

    • @charliemacsart
      @charliemacsart Місяць тому +9

      Here's hoping the huge expansion will help solve crowds, but according to rumors, the "largest expansion in MK history" is only going to have like four rides, one of which is a clone from California, and then they're also potentially rethemeing the entirety of Frontierland and Liberty Square, which would close off a huge chunk of the park, AND they may be filling in the Rivers of America, which gets rid of two attractions right there. I have no clue how closing rides and spending a decade just to build four is gonna solve capacity issues lmao

    • @AdamYJ
      @AdamYJ Місяць тому +10

      If you can go to both of them to the extent that you can compare them, you're pretty lucky.

    • @MatecaCorp
      @MatecaCorp Місяць тому +1

      As Rolly Crump said, “It was a lot of good architectural pieces, but I looked at that and thought to myself, ‘What the hell is going on here?’ Disneyland has charm. Disneyland freaking hugs you and kisses you! When you go to Disney World and you see the castle, you want to genuflect ... and that disturbed me.”
      While I don’t agree with him fully, I do think MK is really missing that personal touch, and the good qualities are ruined by the horrendous overcrowding.

    • @ZeranZeran
      @ZeranZeran Місяць тому +5

      Disneyland AND Disney world seriously need a park capacity limit, and to just start turning people away or saying "PARK IS NOW FULL, TRY AGAIN IN 4 HOURS" - There is not enough space, and even if there was no ride could run enough to get 15,000 people through in a few hours. There seems to be a serious lack of communication and common sense from Disney Parks and corporate. It's going down fast.

  • @FiestaTX17
    @FiestaTX17 Місяць тому +18

    Nothing will ever top riding Carousel of Progress in MK. One of my favorite attractions with the best original song, it’s a must every time I’m at the park.

    • @usforsarah
      @usforsarah 16 днів тому

      Too bad Trump is in it. It ruins the experience to see that orange buffoon.

  • @Jay_one
    @Jay_one Місяць тому +25

    I don’t know if anyone has ever mentioned it but I love the choice of background music on these videos.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +9

      I always put a lot of effort into trying to find something that fits

    • @Jay_one
      @Jay_one Місяць тому +2

      @@PoseidonEntertainment i appreciate the effort!

  • @Spoonfight
    @Spoonfight Місяць тому +23

    The best part of MK is that you can take a vintage wooden boat from the Polynesian to get there. Such a cool way to arrive at the park. I also appreciate that you can go in and ride the Haunted Mansion all year. Between the closures for the overlay and the overlay itself, riding OG haunted Mansion at DL is actually pretty difficult for a visitor

    • @cosmicthunder25
      @cosmicthunder25 Місяць тому +2

      If you're staying at an MK resort then the transportation is great. unfortunately though if you're coming from off property or driving from another resort, getting there and back from the ttc is a nightmare with crowds and lines

    • @Spoonfight
      @Spoonfight Місяць тому

      @@cosmicthunder25 we were not staying at that resort. Anyone can walk through and use the transportation if they want to. It does take time compared to DL, but we enjoyed the experience.

    • @cosmicthunder25
      @cosmicthunder25 Місяць тому

      @@Spoonfight that is true, though walking access from Poly to ttc was blocked when I was there last fall due to construction of the giant ugly hotel they're building there

    • @MonsterKidCory
      @MonsterKidCory Місяць тому +4

      OMG I hate the Nightmare Before Christmas overlay so much. It puts the unadulterated Haunted Mansion down for half the bloody year. You get a window of March to August to actually ride it before they make it Christmasy.

  • @LoveStallion
    @LoveStallion Місяць тому +6

    Growing up going to Disneyland, the Matterhorn coming into view was the big tease. I always loved that feeling hitting Harbor Blvd. from Ball Rd. Plus, you can see the Matterhorn from the 57 freeway.

  • @TrashComments
    @TrashComments Місяць тому +32

    While I don’t hate MK and I think the hate is over-excessive, I can agree that it has its ups and downs (mostly downs throughout the past few years), and I can see why people prefer Disneyland more nowadays.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +1

      Under the policies, I do think it's still a fun park. I just wish that it got more meaningful investment.

    • @kalaoahaole
      @kalaoahaole Місяць тому +2

      DL is Walt's ONLY park and the REAL Magic Kingdom. Walking in his footsteps is priceless.

  • @gridley
    @gridley Місяць тому +13

    DisneySea in Tokyo to me is generally the only Disney theme park (and perhaps only theme park in the world, period) that is worth checking out. That's due in part to the ethos of its owner, the Oriental Land Co. In turn, the Disney Co's park next to Disneyland, which opened the same year as DisneySea, reflects the creative incompetence and financial stinginess of corporate Disney, not just in 2024 but going back over 20 years.

    • @officialmonarchmusic
      @officialmonarchmusic Місяць тому +3

      Better see it soon then. The OLC are slowly but surely sliding down the same path as Disney is

  • @dhi1145
    @dhi1145 Місяць тому +9

    I think MK has something that none of the other parks do: location. It’s in this secluded, swampy forest. Kind of an exotic environment already. And then you see this castle in the distance, and as you said, that builds anticipation.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +4

      I agree. The surrounding area is really important to the experience. I also enjoy leaving the park for a bit and exploring the area for food and going back later in the night.

    • @meaghanbrown4410
      @meaghanbrown4410 21 день тому

      This also benefits the air quality too. As someone with minor asthma, the congestion around Disneyland was terrible for me and I got a terrible cough from it.

  • @thebikewatcher9819
    @thebikewatcher9819 Місяць тому +19

    Riding the monorail and/or ferryboat to the park is fine. However it's an absolute nightmare when leaving the park after the fireworks or at park closing.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +9

      Yeah agreed. I would rather just sit on a bench in the park than deal with the mass of people trying to leave. There are clearly way more people than the transportation was designed to handle.

    • @flipcoin6301
      @flipcoin6301 Місяць тому +1

      Exit crowds are worst at DisneylandParis. The mobs push and shove to squeeze onto buses or metro trains.

  • @AdamYJ
    @AdamYJ Місяць тому +61

    "If you have Disneyland, why go to Magic Kingdom"?
    Proximity? Have we forgotten that proximity is a thing? I'm on the East Coast. Specifically New York State. So, I'm a lot more likely to visit Magic Kingdom at Disney World than ever set foot in the State of California. So, I'll take what I can get. Hell, Disney could set up a rinky-dink fake Disney park in an abandoned mall in Massachusetts or something and I'd be happy with it because I'd be more likely to visit that than either Florida or California.

    • @weston407
      @weston407 Місяць тому +6

      I’ve lived in central Florida my whole life and haven’t been to Disneyland for that reason - I would love to visit it one day though

    • @RustyX2010
      @RustyX2010 Місяць тому +6

      @@weston407 If you love huge crowds of people and nowhere to walk cause it's so crowded everyday then you'll love Disneyland.

    • @RoseRitonya
      @RoseRitonya Місяць тому +1

      @@RustyX2010 Worst part from my memory is in Adventureland right by the treehouse. Super crowded with people walking to New Orleans Square from Frontierland, and people walking through Adventureland to get to Tomorrowland.

    • @RustyX2010
      @RustyX2010 Місяць тому

      @@RoseRitonya Or right before they built the Star Wars part there were billboards up showing the new layout and area was super crowded with people taking pictures of the "Coming Soon" signs.

    • @LeftCoastDrones
      @LeftCoastDrones Місяць тому +3

      @@weston407 Unlike Orlando, Anaheim actually has an off season. So if you come in January/February, the crowds are very minimal.

  • @stephenraeburn3263
    @stephenraeburn3263 Місяць тому +15

    HEY PE - thanks for another great video essay. I absolutely love what you do! But I answered this question before even watching the video and you never explored the #1 reason in my mind: the crowds!!! I don't know when you got your b-role, but I cannot remember the last time I was in MK without it being shoulder to shoulder. When you add all of the context of your video together, and then wait in line on average 45-60 minutes to experience any of said attractions, plus an hour wait to get your hotdog at Casey's Corner, then a 30 minute wait to find a table to eat, then another hour wait for an attraction, plus a 20 minute wait to buy your souvenir, and a 30-60 minute wait to get on transportation simply to leave the park: you've realized that you've spent close to $200 to dedicate more than 80% of your day to waiting in lines. It leaves me with a feeling or defeat and resentment, and that is why MK is my least favorite park. But Hate?? I don't think I'll ever "hate" a Disney park.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +3

      When have you been going? The summer was pretty dead for WDW last year and travel agents seem to indicate that this year will be worse judging from the lack of interest that they're seeing. Fall appears to be the busy time for the parks in Florida now.

    • @stephenraeburn3263
      @stephenraeburn3263 Місяць тому +1

      @@PoseidonEntertainment I tend to visit the central Florida area during the autumn, Christmas/New Years, or at Easter hahahaha I know, I deserve the crowds LOL but if what you say is true I will have to test the heat and try vacationing this summer instead.

    • @grayrabbit2211
      @grayrabbit2211 22 дні тому

      The Disney parks parking lots have been very quiet in the past couple of years. VERY quiet. Even driving through on holiday weekends, they're nowhere near as full as they used to be.

  • @Anynom
    @Anynom Місяць тому +12

    Visited Disneyland last year and struck how much better than WDW in many waysm

  • @intercepter54
    @intercepter54 Місяць тому +9

    Hey Poseidon entertainment. I loved the video today and how you attempted to portray all sides to this issue fairly. I’m glad that there are UA-camrs like you who try to look at all perspectives of these parks to give the most fair and nuanced opinion on the topic. We don’t have enough people like you in the theme park space and I can’t wait to see what you do next! 🔥

  • @therealventures
    @therealventures Місяць тому +15

    Im a floridian, and I've not been to DL, but from the plenty of videos I've seen of DL and comparing it to MK, DL is better. MK is too big with little to offer for its heavy crowds, the park is HOT literally 😂 little trees or cover. They need to add more rides and take away VQ!

    • @grayrabbit2211
      @grayrabbit2211 22 дні тому +1

      Same for all of the "new" things Disney's rolled out in the Florida parks. It's obvious they were designed by California people because there's no shade, no trees, and nowhere to sit and cool off.

  • @deadmanjones9077
    @deadmanjones9077 Місяць тому +13

    For me, the dealbreaker about Magic Kingdom is the water quality (and its nearby hotels, including the Contemporary). It tastes so awful and ruins the fountain beverages as well. Tried to get some tap water, awful. Tried to get a Coke from Casey's Corner, awful. You'd have to always drink bottled beverages to even make it through the park. Not to mention the whole Genie+ experience has left a bad taste in my mouth, especially for rides in Magic Kingdom itself. Nothing worse than having to pay an additional Lightning Lane fee for a ride you want to go on, only for it to shut down for rain. Worst part, I tried doing it AGAIN on the last day, but yet again it rained. At least I got refunded for that, but it still sucks.
    On a recent visit to the resort, I realized how much I like World Showcase. If I had to do it again, I'd probably spend most of my time in Epcot, but unfortunately would have to take a couple trips to Magic Kingdom simply cause there's just too much material you have to do there (and maybe a half-day at Hollywood Studios, skipping Animal Kingdom).

    • @KronoGarrett
      @KronoGarrett Місяць тому +4

      As a Great Lakes native who tried to live in Brevard for 18 months and had the miserable experience of dealing with Central Floridian tap water...there is something *wrong* with the water there.

    • @cosmicthunder25
      @cosmicthunder25 Місяць тому +1

      I've never had a problem with it. It tastes different, but not undrinkable

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому

      I can't say that I dislike Florida water. If you're used to it, you're used to it

    • @CoolioJoe100
      @CoolioJoe100 Місяць тому +2

      It's just Florida water, bruh. It'll make you stronger. But fr, the first time my girlfriend and I had Florida water from a water fountain we were kind of scared to drink it because we didn't know that's just how it tastes here haha

    • @deadmanjones9077
      @deadmanjones9077 Місяць тому

      @@PoseidonEntertainment Well my problem is that it tastes awful to me. It doesn't even affect the rest of the resort; the water at any other park or hotel on-site tasted perfectly fine. There must be something funky about the opening day places.

  • @tufab3494
    @tufab3494 Місяць тому +2

    I absolutely LOVED this kind of positive video. Do more of those if you can, please! I've been less into your videos talking about Disney recently because I was starting to see too many negatives on Disney stuff, so I think that also bringing positive subjects (even if attached to nostalgia) helps bring more balance to the channel.
    Been watching your videos for like 2 years now and they are truly something else. Greetings from Brazil!

  • @damianstellabott3613
    @damianstellabott3613 Місяць тому +9

    My issue with Magic Kingdom is that it used to be soooo much better. When I visited a few years ago it just made me sad. I could see remnants of things I remembered that were really cool and unique and represented the pinnacle of what WDP was capable of , but are now gone and replaced with stuff that is boring and uninspired.

  • @ageoflove1980
    @ageoflove1980 Місяць тому +26

    Insanely crowded, super expensive, predatory fastpass system, hardly any stand out rides, IP's milked dry over decades... To name a few? They should restrict the number of tickets that are sold on a single day to keep crowds under control and bring back the complimentary fastpass system, at the least. Whats the point at looking at individual rides if everything around it is just terrible? Plus, I dont think " forcing" you through 5 star $600/night hotels on your way to the entrance is very customer friendly. Showing the peasants a glimpse of a better experience really starts your day on the wrong foot, especially since you've already spend an arm and a leg to be there in the first place. But sure, that opportunity to buy a mediocre $13 hotdog brings back that warm and fuzzy feeling.

    • @cosmicthunder25
      @cosmicthunder25 Місяць тому +3

      Even with the reservation system crowds were bad

    • @ageoflove1980
      @ageoflove1980 Місяць тому +7

      @@cosmicthunder25 Just saying that Disney themselves are in full control of how many people a day get access to their parks.

    • @therealventures
      @therealventures Місяць тому +3

      Wdw is insane lol

    • @charliemacsart
      @charliemacsart Місяць тому +2

      I think out of any Disney park, MK could probably get away with having a reservation system. It's majorly a tourist park, so people are already planning their trips out in advance. If they limit the amount of guests it could really help the park. Maybe make it so annual passholders don't need a reservation too though, so that way locals have a reason to keep buying their annual passes?

    • @Donyourmom
      @Donyourmom Місяць тому +1

      I’m going to get so much flak for this, but in my opinion, EPCOT center in its current form, is the only good WDW park.

  • @colebuckon3856
    @colebuckon3856 Місяць тому +8

    I think that part of the reason that Magic Kingdom gets so much hate is that, at least from my experience, it is the Disney World park that feels the most hamstrung by the replacement of FastPass with Genie+. In other parks, you may only ride 4 or 5 attractions known a day, but they have few enough attractions that you probably got to ride most of what you wanted to anyway, and you finish early enough to go to Disney Springs or hop to Epcot for dinner. In Magic Kingdom, you only ride 4 or 5 attractions if you spend all day there and are willing to walk away from the most in-demand rides, and you end up feeling like you barely did anything, as there is so much stuff you had to skip. It’s to the point where you really need to pay obscene money for one of those guided tours just to get the most out of a single day.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +4

      When I went to update my footage of the park the other day, it wasn't too busy but Winnie the Pooh had a 60 minute wait. That's the perfect example of how Genie+ just destroys the lines.

    • @nicoledenel
      @nicoledenel 4 дні тому +1

      This was my experience. I had to wait almost 3hrs for space mountain and other rides were almost 1hr 30 min wait. Went last year with my sister to Animal Kingdom and the longest we waited in a line was 45 min

  • @bassjasinski
    @bassjasinski Місяць тому +15

    Magic Kingdom does need to address stroller parking.

    • @councilofkarens729
      @councilofkarens729 Місяць тому +8

      and the explosion of "Rascals".

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +5

      I agree, no other park has stroller issues like MK. Disneyland certainly doesn't.

    • @councilofkarens729
      @councilofkarens729 Місяць тому

      @@PoseidonEntertainment maybe in addition to height restrictions, they should implement weight ones? LOL I've found my photos from the Russian space park. Just need to digitise them now....

  • @boit7039
    @boit7039 Місяць тому +8

    Splash mountain in FL also had more critters and scenes in the outside parts. When I rode the one at Disneyland I was surprised that the outdoor sections just had fake rock work.
    I hope they add stuff during the re-theme

  • @xsmamb0357
    @xsmamb0357 Місяць тому +7

    Disney: slap an IP on this low budget ride, get merch moola
    Universal: use this IP to create a detailed world and immerse the audience, get merch moola

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +4

      Disney rides aren't low budget, which is concerning, because they often feel like they are regardless.

    • @xsmamb0357
      @xsmamb0357 Місяць тому +3

      @@PoseidonEntertainment good point actually 😐

  • @JeffreyDickinson
    @JeffreyDickinson Місяць тому +5

    The two superior elements of Disneyland’s Mansion are the stretching room going down and the Holiday overlay. Tokyo resolved the latter, but the going down adds a lot to the scene. I agree with Small World, mainly because of the lack of a flume. We always called The Magic Kindom Bizarro-Disneyland.

  • @BrerOswald
    @BrerOswald Місяць тому +21

    Magic Kingdom is still the best park at WDW, but losing Splash really was a big blow. It really was “our Pirates” compared to DL. TBA might end up okay, but the differences between the Florida and California versions won’t be as noticeable as before. It also seems more geared to the Disney + show.

    • @therealventures
      @therealventures Місяць тому +1

      I think Animal Kingdom is the best out of the bunch. I feel like the other 3 have serious work to be done. Animal Kingdom too, but not as bad as the other parks when it comes to maintenance.

    • @cosmicthunder25
      @cosmicthunder25 Місяць тому +6

      @@therealventures Animal Kingdom is the best in terms of cohesive theming but in terms of attractions it's by far the worst. Other than Avatar and Safaris there's not really any good attractions

    • @therealventures
      @therealventures Місяць тому +1

      @cosmicthunder25 Yeah, it needs more attractions or activities, but it's the themeing I love the most about the park!

    • @officialmonarchmusic
      @officialmonarchmusic Місяць тому +1

      @@cosmicthunder25I think it has a slightly better attraction lineup then Hollywood Studios. Avatar, Dinosaur, Safari, Expedition Everest… It’s perfect Disney and theming all around

    • @cosmicthunder25
      @cosmicthunder25 Місяць тому

      @@officialmonarchmusic expedition Everest is just incomplete without a working yeti, though I agree the theming is best at AK. But HS has the 3 Star Wars rides, Twilight Zone, Rockin Roller Coaster, Toy Story Mania, Muppet Vision, Indiana Jones, Fantasmic,

  • @WiiDude83
    @WiiDude83 Місяць тому +18

    I went within the last year and I think for me out of the 4 parks we went to, (both universals, Magic Kingdom and Epcot) Magic Kingdom was easily the least liked.
    The biggest reason why I can easily identify is ride condition. Its extremely clear the rides are not being well maintained and many parts of animatronics and lighting ques just flat out don't work. You see it the most in fantasy land. And no joke, every single omni mover we went on stopped mid ride at least twice. Haunted mansion being the king with 6 times...in one ride.
    That combined with the long wait times, large crowds and not many rides for older adults, it leaves the park feeling very...hollow.
    And as mentioned, I don't like how long it takes to get to the park itself, especially if your off property as having to go through multiple monorails eats a lot of time. Doubly stressful if your one of the first groups for say Tron.
    That and your paying Disney prices which just adds to the bafflingness of how the park is in that rough of shape.

    • @WiiDude83
      @WiiDude83 Місяць тому +1

      ​@enchantingkatie I do get that. At the same time though, when it happens on every omni mover ride usually multiple times during a single ride it does zap you out of it completely. I dont know if I was just unlucky but the amount of times it happen during my trip felt way higher than similar rides at other parks.

  • @Canadian_Guy_82
    @Canadian_Guy_82 Місяць тому +8

    I've never been to Disneyland but hope to in the next year or so.. but I absolutely LOVED Magic Kingdom when I went there for my first time in 2022... with no basis for comparison I totally felt the magic and it made me feel like a kid again. Pirates was easily my favourite ride.. which makes me look forward to Disneyland even more since I hear it's longer and better!!

    • @officialmonarchmusic
      @officialmonarchmusic Місяць тому +4

      Disneyland arguably blows MK out of the water! I hope you enjoy it, my favorite ride is also Pirates… in Disneyland.
      It should be noted that this is all comparison. No Disney park (Besides MAAYYBEEE Walt Disney Studios in Paris) is outright bad, it’s just not as good as others, or how it was before.
      But yes, the park is still amazing

    • @Canadian_Guy_82
      @Canadian_Guy_82 Місяць тому

      @@officialmonarchmusic That's pretty much what I hear from everyone lol.. which makes me pretty pumped for Disneyland. I was going to go in Dec of this year.. but ended up pulling the trigger on another Florida trip to do Busch Gardens Tampa, Sea World, Kennedy Space center and some other things I missed out on in 2022.. but rest assured Disneyland with be very soon.. before I go to Epic Universe in 2025 :D
      Then next on my bucket list is Disney Sea in Tokyo.. which looks absolutely INCREDIBLE!!!

    • @MilkyWay-gi8km
      @MilkyWay-gi8km Місяць тому +1

      I love Disneyland so much more than WDW in general, you really feel the love in Disneyland park

  • @BLKKING05
    @BLKKING05 Місяць тому +2

    I have never been to and haven't had Interest of going to Disney since I was a kid. Kiddie land central, went to Universal last year with the school band, was stellar. They do what Disney can't

  • @trientertainment7628
    @trientertainment7628 Місяць тому

    Just came back to your channel after a while and I gotta say great vid! I really enjoyed it

  • @pierce7993
    @pierce7993 Місяць тому +8

    Anyone who seriously thinks Magic Kingdom is the worst Disney park has clearly never been to DCA 1.0 or Disney Studios Paris.

    • @charliemacsart
      @charliemacsart Місяць тому

      Don't you mean "Disney Adventure World Park"? lmao

    • @pierce7993
      @pierce7993 Місяць тому +3

      @@charliemacsart That name is a nothing burger, lol. It's not going to fix the park at all.

    • @charliemacsart
      @charliemacsart Місяць тому +1

      @@pierce7993 I know, it's such a bad name lol

    • @officialmonarchmusic
      @officialmonarchmusic Місяць тому

      I don’t think that people really mean that. This is the name for worst park in FLORIDA, or the worst one in AMERICA at the most

  • @councilofkarens729
    @councilofkarens729 Місяць тому +32

    The hate certainly does seem to be excessive. Although I'm considering Universal for my next Florida visit, rather than WDW.

    • @FlyRick78
      @FlyRick78 Місяць тому +5

      Unless you like screens, prepare to be disappointed. I am a passholder to both and have been going to both for decades. Universal just lacks the ride diversity or the joy of just walking around the park. There are some good rides a Universal, but there's also a lot of mediocre or bad rides and many that need maintenance.
      IOA has four really good rides. Studios has two really good rides. The rest are okay or bad. Well, or poorly maintained like Cat in the Hat.

    • @NinthShinigami
      @NinthShinigami Місяць тому +17

      I say go for it. The attractions aren’t the only thing that determines how good a park is imo. While Studios could definitely use more coherent theming and more creative attractions, the atmosphere of both parks is worth it. Some of the entertainment there is fun too! The Wizarding World lands are works of art when it comes to themed lands. There’s many interactive elements in Islands too that are pretty fun. Tho I am a huge Universal fan so I may have some bias 😅

    • @callanmischler2819
      @callanmischler2819 Місяць тому +1

      @councilofkarens729 do universal if you will go to epic universe

    • @councilofkarens729
      @councilofkarens729 Місяць тому

      @@callanmischler2819 I'm considering next year or 2026, after it opens.

    • @cosmicthunder25
      @cosmicthunder25 Місяць тому +3

      Definitely give Universal a try. There's not as much diversity in attractions as Disney, as Universal is more thrill-focused. But unless you have small children in your party (there aren't many rides at all with no height requirements), then you will still have a great time.

  • @emvvehicles_8
    @emvvehicles_8 День тому +2

    The Walt Disney world railroad is bare bones compared to the Disneyland Railroad, where’s the Grand Canyon and Primeval World? And the fact we get to ride through it’s a small world, not to mention the additional tunnels, bridges, trestles, and lush vegetation that fits the theming to the land you go through, and there’s one additional stop at Tomorrowland so you don’t have to walk as far showing how good the walkability is in the park.

  • @aledandrian
    @aledandrian Місяць тому +5

    Disneyland is certainly the better park in many ways but Magic Kingdom’s Space Mountain is my favorite Disney attraction of all time

  • @Planetvorton
    @Planetvorton Місяць тому +6

    Yeah, I went to Disney World a couple weeks ago, and I never want to visit a Disney theme park again. I’ll still watch videos like yours, though!

    • @danielbspinola
      @danielbspinola Місяць тому +6

      Me too. Went 7 times in different years, but won't come back. Disney destroyed itself.

    • @RustyX2010
      @RustyX2010 Місяць тому

      Me too and I haven't been back to Disneyland since 2014.

  • @toyaliens
    @toyaliens Місяць тому +4

    Tomorrowland, Haunted Mansion, Jungle Cruise, HOP all make MK great

  • @alex47927
    @alex47927 20 днів тому +1

    I did enjoy the more positive tone of this video! Although I agree with most of your criticisms of the direction Disney has taken its parks, I still enjoy the parks immensely. And the fun I’ve had at the parks is what made me interested in your type of content in the first place. It’s always great to have a reminder of why I keep going to the parks and recognize the impressive theming, rides, and experiences!

  • @robertoso8796
    @robertoso8796 18 днів тому +1

    growing up i always assumed i would inevitably make a pilgrimage to disney world. within the last half decade everything i've learned about it changed that. i can't imagine spending thousands to travel cross country and not get to see and do everything i went for

  • @EyeofG
    @EyeofG Місяць тому +17

    My biggest gripe about magic kingdom is the complete lack of sunshading as well as shelter from rain. Magic kingdom has been open for decades at this point and yet it is basically a ruined day for you if you happen to get rained on there. All the rides are pretty much outdoors except for a very few handful of them and all of them Get shut down immediately once it starts raining. Magic kingdom notoriously has a huge flooding issues when it rains too much and they have never fixed it. There is a massive lack of actual shelter in areas due to a lot of the stores and food areas being very small or just barely small enough overhangs to protect the large groups of people that are there.
    Compared to epcot, where there are large gift shops or large areas to stay sheltered in when it rains, Magic kingdom is Practically an outdoors only experience most of the time you're there.
    I went two years ago with a moderately sized group of friends And we were even prepared for the rain yet We all still got soaking wet and our feet soaking wet as well Due to the flooding in many areas of the park. If anything the cast members there as well are the least nice of all the other parks had been to over the years And they actively do not help guests when they need it unless it's a medical emergency. Not one crew member offered any help or protection to any guests even families with babies in strollers against the rain where on multiple Occasions when I've gone to epcot i've literally seen cast members take off their own ponchos and give them to park guests to protect them from rain before.

    • @charliemacsart
      @charliemacsart Місяць тому +9

      I remember the central hub used to have a TON of trees but they cut them all down to make it easier to see the castle projection shows.

    • @lunasuji
      @lunasuji Місяць тому +5

      this is pretty inconvenient in a place like florida, actually lol. it's either hellishly sunny or rainy.

    • @cookimaus1
      @cookimaus1 Місяць тому +3

      Is.. that not an issue at any park?
      Plus when your a florida local like me, you get used to it.
      Rain just means shorter lines :3

    • @crann777
      @crann777 Місяць тому +1

      Better than Cedar Faire. The only areas in the parks with shade and seating are the designated smoking zones.

    • @EricMontreal22
      @EricMontreal22 Місяць тому

      Another reason it's maddening that, for example, they have so few Fantasyland dark rides compared to DL, etc.

  • @brigitterose8989
    @brigitterose8989 Місяць тому +16

    I think people need to realise that not everyone is a local and if you’re travelling 16+ hours to get to the USA, and you want to go to Disney, you’re going to pick the park/s that have the most to offer size wise.
    As an Australian who has been to both, I love Disneyland but for pure value - Disney World was my pick

  • @NASCARDAWGYT
    @NASCARDAWGYT 24 дні тому +1

    Disney world still holds a place in my heart due to me not visiting Disneyland until I was 14. Also growing up in the Atlanta area, we always would drive down. Magic kingdom was always the first and last park we did to bookmark the trip and we did that last December for Christmas and I swear, I felt 10 again. Idk if it’s nostalgia blinding me from some of these problems or I just genuinely enjoyed it. Probably just take this opinion with a grain of salt since I don’t go every year, but I loved magic kingdom still.

  • @anthonyruby2668
    @anthonyruby2668 Місяць тому +2

    OH!!! I love when you have to go back to your car in the lot in the morning and the ONLY ONE on the TTC boat. You wave at the other full boat and they all wave back

  • @georgelucas2571
    @georgelucas2571 Місяць тому +12

    I know people give Disneyland a lot of crap these days (and a lot of it is deserved) but it’s still undeniably the best Disney Park in the US. With how small it is compared to Walt Disney World, it manages to have more rides and entertainment overall. There’s no need for 4 separate parks because you can do everything you want in one day at Disneyland. I could enjoy a whole week at Disneyland whereas I couldn’t spend an entire day in a park like Epcot or Animal Kingdom. Also the weather in Florida is absolutely terrible.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +3

      Agreed. When I travel to Disneyland, it's often for a week and I never really get tired of it. The few attractions that I like at DCA are a plus, but I spend most of my time in Disneyland.

    • @CarolCap131
      @CarolCap131 Місяць тому +1

      Agree completely. We just came back from a five night visit to Disneyland/California adventure. Although the arrival day we only rode about four t attractions and had dinner , the other four days we did rope drop and stayed til at least 11 or midnight. And that is at 76. The ease of going from park to park and land to land is just effortless and the weather really helps. We had a couple of rainy days, a couple of very sunny days where grizzly peak was very welcome and a middle of the road weather day but all better than most Florida weather! I’ve just had days when making it around Epcot was a slog or even up the hill to tron was tough but I just felt the variety in close proximity in California couldn’t be beat. We even watched fireworks from a bench near small world and couldn’t help comparing it with the pushing and shoving at magic kingdom.

    • @LeftCoastDrones
      @LeftCoastDrones Місяць тому +1

      Also Disneyland has the better version of Fantasmic which wasn't mentioned in the video.

  • @RedReVenge007
    @RedReVenge007 Місяць тому +44

    Epic Universe will be the downfall of Disney!

    • @abp1400
      @abp1400 Місяць тому +11

      It's gonna be great. It will force Disney to "compete or die"

    • @lalalol36
      @lalalol36 Місяць тому +3

      It won't be.

    • @RedReVenge007
      @RedReVenge007 Місяць тому +1

      @@lalalol36 it already has

    • @Marden04
      @Marden04 Місяць тому +3

      I'm pretty confident lands based around "How to Train Your Dragon" and 1930s monster films aren't making anyone worry.

    • @FortMiseryGaming
      @FortMiseryGaming Місяць тому

      100% agree

  • @dimentioo
    @dimentioo Місяць тому +2

    will forever be devastated that i didn’t get to visit magic kingdom in its prime. i have no desire to visit it anymore when in my opinion disneyland is so much better and closer lol

  • @dantemercer444
    @dantemercer444 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for talking about the scents! No one talks about those and its my favourite part of Pirates bumping it up HUGE in points imo.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому

      Which makes me wonder, why not bring them to Disneyland's Pirates? Seems like a weird discrepancy.

  • @syntheticfox_real
    @syntheticfox_real Місяць тому +8

    “I don’t understand why people enjoy going to EPCOT at all anymore.”
    Oooooooh this one’s for me. EPCOT actually is arguably my favorite park, not because of the rides (though they play a part), but because of how its planned and the history behind it. I’m getting my graduate degree in Urban and Regional Planning, and EPCOT has always fascinated me because of my love for planning human spaces. EPCOT’s history as a Garden Movement city shows its problems… some really major… but EPCOT always has been the most fascinating because it represents a continual effort towards international cooperation and planning for humans and communities. Its one of the few parks in the US where if you pay attention to it enough, you begin learning a lot more than just what’s on Living with the Land and such. The whole park is a unique experience itself BECAUSE of its history and clear efforts baked in by Walt himself as part of his original EPCOT vision.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +4

      That's why I don't like the park though. Iger is working hard to erase the history of the park, turning it into another "Disney Adventure World" with some vague, "magic of possibility" corporate buzzphase flavor.

  • @chrispapciak887
    @chrispapciak887 Місяць тому +4

    Because the other parks are better, and Disneyland still reigns as the best Magic Kingdom.

  • @sterospa
    @sterospa Місяць тому +2

    Great video! Space mountain today may seem lame to people but to me it's one of the best ever. When I was a kid it was as amazing. From the que to the ride it has always been one of my favorites.

  • @dandrnachmusic
    @dandrnachmusic Місяць тому +2

    Love all your videos man but... we just got back from California, we live in Orlando, and prefer Magic Kingdom to Disneyland. We loved DL but when we went back to MK it just flowed better. Can't wait for more videos.

  • @ravewulf
    @ravewulf Місяць тому +6

    100% agree with it having the best version of Space Mountain in particular. The ride being a bit rougher and less refined is part of the experience and what makes it enjoyable. The atmosphere of the queue and its stellar background music is another highlight along with the counterpart dioramas as you exit.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +2

      Yeah, I would love if Tomorrowland embraced the sci-fi aesthetic of its post-show walkway.

  • @Rayleonard13
    @Rayleonard13 Місяць тому +4

    27:12 "(replacing Tomorrowland) with something sleek and a lot more Color" My guy they literally painted EVERYTHING white with some secondary elements having light shade of blue and ripped out all the colorful lightning at night

    • @cosmicthunder25
      @cosmicthunder25 Місяць тому +1

      2000s tomorrowland was so much nicer

    • @charliemacsart
      @charliemacsart Місяць тому

      Wait they got rid of the night color?? When?? I was there in January 2023 and I swear the color was still there, though I wasn't in Tomorrowland at night for very long so I may have not noticed

    • @ftrwrwbg
      @ftrwrwbg Місяць тому +2

      His tastes are always really shocking to me lol. Loves and wants to keep the carousel of progress but Buzz Lightyear can be replaced.

    • @charliemacsart
      @charliemacsart Місяць тому +4

      @@ftrwrwbg Carousel of Progress is a classic though, and the only attraction at WDW that Walt directly had a hand in. Buzz Lightyear is good but it could use an update imo

    • @ftrwrwbg
      @ftrwrwbg Місяць тому

      @@charliemacsart It’s also extremely boring. It’s hard for me to imagine any children enjoying it. When I was a kid it was always one I avoided like the plague and I always had a great time on Buzz. Preferring to hop on that instead of Tron? I can’t understand it. For some reason the slowest and dullest rides are always the ones the hardcore people want to keep for all time. Knowing a lot of these people are ones who grew up with the parks like I did it’s weird to try and understand where the line is drawn and what can be replaced with a new ride and what can’t.

  • @skycreeper0173
    @skycreeper0173 Місяць тому

    That was super freaking awesome! I really enjoyed this video and how you highlighted both the positive and negative aspects of the park.

  • @mikeshul1994
    @mikeshul1994 Місяць тому +2

    I strongly agree that Haunted Mansion in Magic Kingdom is better than the one in Disneyland. The scale at Disneyland feels bigger to me however, the Magic Kingdom version just has more both in the queue and within the attraction

  • @cosmicthunder25
    @cosmicthunder25 Місяць тому +16

    I haven't watched the video yet but I can bet it's:
    Crowds
    More kid-focused attractions
    "Outdated" attractions
    Having to take boat/bus/mono
    "Inferior" versions of rides at Disneyland

    • @RossBaby91
      @RossBaby91 Місяць тому +2

      The monorail and ferry is the best part of getting there

    • @cosmicthunder25
      @cosmicthunder25 Місяць тому

      @@RossBaby91 it was great once upon a time, now it takes forever

    • @charliemacsart
      @charliemacsart Місяць тому +3

      It's funny how every point you listed minus crowds was stated as a positive aspect of MK in the video lmao

    • @officialmonarchmusic
      @officialmonarchmusic Місяць тому

      I think some of the things you mentioned are positives. The changes made to the park only made it worse

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому

      I think that your guesses might be way off lol

  • @copyjockeynk
    @copyjockeynk Місяць тому +5

    I only hate the magic kingdom because when I'm ready to leave, I still have another 30-60 minutes until I'm at my car.

  • @TheMarkvanes
    @TheMarkvanes Місяць тому +1

    Hey @PoseidonEntertainment are you going to do an video on Danse Macabre when it finishes? The 'The making of' videos are cool and they have English subs!

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому

      I haven't been really paying attention to it. Do you have a link to the videos?

  • @samplautz5586
    @samplautz5586 29 днів тому +1

    I’ve never been to Disney, but just went to universal last weekend for the first time. I can’t fathom spending money on Disney when universal is the best theme/amusement park I have ever been to, and I’ve been to a bunch

  • @DapperIndividual
    @DapperIndividual Місяць тому +3

    I think the reason i dislike Magic Kingdom so much (aside from the obvious crowding issues) is simply due to the Seven Seas Lagoon.
    What was once a way to fully immerse yourself in the world of the Magic Kingdom has become a cumbersome and tetious slog to get in and out of the park. It puts a major damper on the beginning and ending of a day, and the last thing i want after being in a 8+ hour day in the heat is another hour+ wait to even get to my car.

    • @cosmicthunder25
      @cosmicthunder25 Місяць тому +2

      A symptom of the crowds

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +1

      I agree, it's so overcrowded, that its become clear how over-taxed the transportation systems are. Sometimes I'll walk to the Contemporary and take the resort monorail, or when it was possible before the DVC Polynesian tower construction, I would just walk, even if it ultimately took a lot longer. I would prefer to take my time than to wait in sweaty crowds full of obnoxious people.

  • @WaterBug46
    @WaterBug46 Місяць тому +3

    If they proceed with the rumored re theming at MK I will be completely done with that park. Epcot is over. I keep my pass just for AK but spend most of my park days at Universal. And I’m not happy to say that. There was a magic that only Disney had but that genie has escaped it’s bottle. Not to be found again. At least in Orlando.

    • @Mammothsaber-4457
      @Mammothsaber-4457 Місяць тому +1

      I don’t get why everyone thinks those ideas would be bad enchanto and coco have potential and people have been wanting a villains land for years

  • @Sauce787
    @Sauce787 Місяць тому +2

    I've only ever heard people from Cali claim Disneyland is better. In my experience the opinion that Disneyworld is superior has always been the default, but I did grow up on the east coast.

  • @KRobinson-ko1ne
    @KRobinson-ko1ne Місяць тому +1

    I still can’t believe they put the hat box ghost by the endless hallway of all spots. If they can’t put the animatronic in the attic they could easily find a spot following the seance, like in the cemetery.
    Needless to say it conflicts with the narrative: Madame Leota’s seance is supposed to call forth the spirits to materialize and take visible form.
    Before you bring up the corpse in the coffin, said entity has a biological form, and even then the character is still mostly concealed for dramatic effect

  • @Scrypto-so1xc
    @Scrypto-so1xc Місяць тому +3

    Despite being decades older Disneyland simply has the superior versions of many attractions. Pirates/Space Mountain/Haunted Mansion/Autopia/Small world all definitively worse and MK barely even has any Fantasyland dark rides to speak of. MK also has quite possibly the worst food of any Disney park which is saying something. I get they have to deal with the greatest volume of guests but would it kill to have quick service that isn't county fair trash tier food anywhere?
    I will say MK is much more equipped to handle massive crowds with its spacing/layout and generally has better shows/fireworks, but it also loses points for generally being a nightmare to leave any time after dusk

    • @Scrypto-so1xc
      @Scrypto-so1xc Місяць тому

      All that being said, I don't really disagree with the thesis of your video. The park is consistently enjoyable for mostly everyone and doesn't have a major glaring issue that Epcot/AK/HS suffer from. Also tomorrowland is just better in general with the functional peoplemover and all.

    • @Scrypto-so1xc
      @Scrypto-so1xc Місяць тому

      Also appreciate your point about getting to the park being much better than Disneyland. Bay Lake is absolutely beautiful and kind of acts as a buffer between the outside world and the park no matter how you get there. Disneyland's parking decks and walking through the miniscule Downtown Disney just don't compare

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому

      Magic Kingdom food is particularly bad and it's always funny when I see someone refer to Columbia Harbor House as a "hidden gem". Also, people love to praise Skipper Canteen and I've always found it underwhelming for the amount of love it weirdly seems to get. I haven't eaten everywhere in the park, but the only place that seems like a good value is Liberty Tree Tavern, which has been consistent for the price.

  • @fr00gal
    @fr00gal Місяць тому +5

    1st

    • @bluejay8345
      @bluejay8345 Місяць тому +1

      DAMNNN i think you are genuinely 1st LMAO

  • @EricMontreal22
    @EricMontreal22 Місяць тому

    Another beautifully done video. I've been a Disney park geek since I went to Disneyland in '89 when I was 8... so a long time. Even though I could only go every five years or so, already by 12 I was reading park history zines like The E Ticket, and sending away for maps of the other parks, etc.
    So it was always a dream for me to go to WDW, but living in BC Canada, just so much easier and cheaper to go to DL. I finally went to WDW about five years ago--and a bit to my surprise I ended up spending more time than I had planned at the MK. It was great to finally go to EPCOT but, as you say, already most of the stuff I had grown up being excited to see was gone. DS was alright but I spent about half a day there. AK was beautiful but, again, not somewhere to spend a lot of time at. So I ended up really appreciating the MK *except* in my case it was *mostly* just like a lesser Disneyland, which I'd been to numerous times. The main enjoyment for me, I hate to say, was that a lesser DL is still a great vacation for me. But hardly a reason to go back any time soon.
    But that said, for what it is, I agree with the thesis of this video, that it still has an awful lot to recommend it.

    • @RustyX2010
      @RustyX2010 Місяць тому +1

      It was nice to go to Disneyland back in the 80's to late 90's no crowds!!

  • @forty_two42
    @forty_two42 2 дні тому

    Thank you for this video. I'm from the east coast of the United States. I came from a family with limited extra income. So I've only been to Florida magic Kingdom. Thats what Disney IS too me. Mr toad, Peter Pan, haunted Mansion, etc. So i get so confused when people hate on Magic Kingdom because I don't have the context for anything else. And you both gave context and didn't get all gatekeepery in the process

  • @LeftCoastDrones
    @LeftCoastDrones Місяць тому

    ​ @PoseidonEntertainment How do you feel about Disneyland having (the better version of ) Fantasmic but it's been relegated to Hollywood Studios in Orlando?

    • @toyaliens
      @toyaliens Місяць тому

      It has seats at DHS and the improvements in 2020 enhanced the show, while DLs are too effect heavy

    • @LeftCoastDrones
      @LeftCoastDrones Місяць тому

      @@toyaliens It has seats because its in it's own stadium. Which takes away from the organic charm that Fantasmic at Disneyland has being on the Rivers of America....And because it's on the Rivers of America, Disneyland's version of Fantasmic gets to use the sailing ship Columbia for "Pirate of the Caribbean or Peter Pan" and then the ending has more characters because Disneyland gets to use the Mark Twain and not the Steamboat Willie boat Orlando uses.

    • @toyaliens
      @toyaliens Місяць тому

      @@LeftCoastDrones Id rather sit to watch the show, the steamboat willie ship at dhs fits more than a 1700s boat thats too big to fill up with chars, SBW is packed while MT looks half empty

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому

      I've heard Disneyland's Fantasmic is better and I enjoyed watching it right before the dragon caught on fire. I haven't seen the Hollywood Studios version in probably 20 years or so though.

  • @scalez3842
    @scalez3842 Місяць тому +2

    I love Magic Kingdom's space mountain. It feels like you're getting shot and slung around in a 10x10 ft tangle of track in a box. (In the best way) My group stayed in the park way late, and I got to ride it like three times with little to no wait. Only ride in my entire Disney trip that caused a wardrobe malfunction (broke my decorative pants chain thingy)

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому +1

      Disneyland's Space Mountain is awesome, but it's perhaps a little too predictable.

  • @XjestR
    @XjestR Місяць тому

    Always love when you upload
    Keep it up!

  • @Spamghetti
    @Spamghetti 21 день тому

    When I went to Disney World for the first time (as a lifelong california resident) I was both blown away and deeply dissatisfied with my experience with the parks. Epcott was this place I'd only ever heard of from my father in stories of him going as a kid, and seeing it for myself made me relive old childhood fantasies of going. For my mother and I who were there it was a grand experience in food.
    We did a park a day over the course of 5 days, and I won't go into the whole trip but magic kingdom ended up being the only park we left early. That was due to the fact that
    1. It was packed to the brim
    2. I didn't fit in half the rides as a 6'4" young man.
    I think it pales in comparison to disneyworld, and for my birthday this year I'll be at tokyo disney, so if I remember I'll try and update this comment with my thoughts from there.

  • @matthewloriso5570
    @matthewloriso5570 Місяць тому +1

    Please be quick with a Liberty Square video! Your brief description of the land here made me think you can absolutely do it justice!

  • @Sauce787
    @Sauce787 Місяць тому +1

    6:55 The short that Casey's corner was themed after is also inspired by the poem "Casey at the Bat" by Ernest Lawrence Thayer

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому

      Yeah, I do like that the restaurant isn't just exclusively an IP tie-in, but has actual culture behind it.

  • @Global_Thrills
    @Global_Thrills Місяць тому +2

    You know it’s a good day when Poseidon posts 🤩

  • @SGTRandleOneOne
    @SGTRandleOneOne 23 дні тому +1

    So last week, I went to Universal's Islands of Adventure and then a few days later Disney's Magic Kingdom.
    I guess as an adult who enjoys both themeimg AND thrill rides, you can't really compare the two IN MY OPINION.
    At UIA I rode Velocicoaster for the first time. At Magic I rode Tron for the first time. One of these was amazing, and one was a big nothing.

  • @SkeleborgGaming
    @SkeleborgGaming Місяць тому

    does anyone know what that wire going from the top of the castle to who knows where is for ?

  • @TL_oS
    @TL_oS Місяць тому

    Another awesome video- thank you. Love your work.

  • @Ataraxia462
    @Ataraxia462 Місяць тому +1

    As a Florida resident there have been times where I would love to go to MK for just one day and ride Haunted Mansion, Space Mountain, etc but the price to do so is seriously prohibitive to consider it. For example, next Sunday a one day MK ticket is $174/person...gross. Disney truly has priced out my family.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому

      I don't really look at pricing because I just pay for my pass every year, but the value doesn't really seem there.

  • @TweetsieRailroader
    @TweetsieRailroader Місяць тому

    This was an excellent video. Honestly, regarding the castle parks, I definitely understand why Disneyland is seen as the better experience overall (I've yet to experience Walt's Magic Kingdom, being from the East Coast, but the Magic Kingdom we have here is something pretty special to me), but you are absolutely right in the Magic Kingdom having a lot of unique experiences to offer on it's own. One thing I do want to say is that, regarding the railroad, I do find the back stretch along Florida Swampland to be really neat, as it's some of the last vestiges of that on Walt Disney World Property, so getting to see what the Magic Kingdom once was in it's most "natural" state feels pretty neat. Plus, I think Walt Disney World may be on track for a new golden age here soon, with a creative back in charge of Imagineering, I think we might see a lot of things change at Walt Disney World for the better.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому

      I'm really not optimistic about what will be revealed at D23 at all. Disney needs to stop spending money on parks until Iger leaves and I don't agree at all that Imagineering is going to start producing great stuff.

  • @natalie022
    @natalie022 Місяць тому +1

    I enjoy Disney, and I also see the points you make. As a person in the midwest, i am conflicted by disney’s nostalgia, current bad decisions, and the states (cough cough Florida) where they are

  • @raymondsramirez
    @raymondsramirez Місяць тому

    A positive Disney video from Poseidon?! Love it!! Now do one for EPCOT, I dare you hehehe…
    In all seriousness, I enjoy your content a lot and I wholeheartedly agree to look at both perspectives of the state of Disney parks-the good and the bad. I admit MK is my least favorite of the 4 WDW parks. After growing up with the California park throughout my childhood, I came to MK in my mid 30s and was expecting a better version but left slightly disappointed. While there are some rides that are better in MK and some are better in DL, you reminded me that I tend to take for granted how well the theming is in MK. Which Disney has historically done well at, especially in their castle parks. Now it’s making me think what would it take for MK to jump higher in my personal park preferences for WDW. (Side note: I really wish Disney didn’t stop making those mini Fantasyland dark rides because those are so fun to ride when I go back to Disneyland in CA.)

  • @leftfinned
    @leftfinned 25 днів тому

    as a person who has always loved Disney world - I’m sad to say after returning from our yearly trip only 5 days ago, I have officially found myself not wanting more. It just wasn’t the same. Nothing was as good, as fun, or as magical as usual. I’m sad I feel much of my money spent on our 10 day trip at a moderate resort was wasted. I usually felt my money was spent for good food, good souvenirs, and the like. Now I can remember one above average meal the entire trip, and so many people in the parks that the only way to enjoy anything is to pay to play. My photo pass photos didn’t show up until yesterday after having to get in touch and tell them how many character meets etc were missing. It was ok, but left me wanting a new, better, more relaxed, better value of a vacation. Sadly, Walt Disney World is truly pushing everyone away including die hard fans with money to spend.

  • @johncordani3527
    @johncordani3527 Місяць тому

    Nice video. Glad to see a balanced perspective on WDW. One additional consideration in terms of comparing MK to Disneyland is Cinderella's Castle versus Sleeping Beauty's Castle. The MK version is superior because, while both have some internal storytelling elements, MK's version has Cinderella's Royal Table. While expensive, it is a unqiue and well-themed experience, especially good for kids, and pretty good food for the adults.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому

      I haven't been, but, like all things MK, I've heard the food is awful lol

  • @tehawsumninja
    @tehawsumninja Місяць тому

    To summarize for anyone who doesn't have time to watch real quick but is planning on coming back later like i did at first: A lot of rides aren't as good as the Disneyland counterparts but are still decent and they make up for it in atmosphere. Any unique rides to the park are also well made and offer a good experience for the most part. People just hate the park because they are stupid and think that if they hate a different park, it makes it okay that they defend DisneyLand and/or World despite them having a lot of the same problems. That, and they hear people saying it sucks and if something sucks from Disney it must suck a LOT so therefore it is the worst thing in the world and must be hated. Love the content, dude. Thanks for giving me a video to show to my friends to explain why i still love Magic Kingdom ❤❤❤

  • @Plumpyy
    @Plumpyy Місяць тому +2

    i got food poisoning at magic kingdom in 2016 and im still mad about it

  • @lennylennordson6135
    @lennylennordson6135 Місяць тому +1

    These videos are so well made it blows my mind

  • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
    @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Місяць тому +1

    22:31 As someone who's never been to a Disney park the idea to put Ariel on the boat bow comes across gruesome, like they're crucifying her. Such a weird choice!

  • @hypnagogue
    @hypnagogue Місяць тому +2

    W for picking florida space mountain as ur fav. that ride has a unique dated charm to it but in the best way. i hope they never retheme it and mess it up bc it’s perfect

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment  Місяць тому

      I like the ending hallway too, especially the Horizons reference. It's a vibe that the rest of Tomorrowland needs to get on board with.

  • @ZontarDow
    @ZontarDow Місяць тому

    I certainly enjoyed going once in the off season when i was able yo cheese the old fast pass system but I don't think I'll ever go back.

  • @user-uz5dd7eg8m
    @user-uz5dd7eg8m 9 днів тому

    I recently went to Disney world and visited all the parks for the first time in one trip and honestly a half day at Animal Kingdom and Hollywood were all we needed, Epcot was fine for a full day but I was also drinking a lot, but magic kingdom we spent the vast majority of time in and I found it to really be the only park that I think I could spend more than just one day at.

  • @looneytoastywolf
    @looneytoastywolf Місяць тому

    WDW is fun from time to time, and the weather doesn't bother me too much unless it's wildly humid ×_×! Disneyland does have alotta unique cool stuff i love seeing it :D
    but I deffo enjoyed this vid and your opinions about all this! Great vid!
    Honestly I recently got to go back to universal studios and kinda would rather go back to that over Disney c:

  • @InsaneBeautyGaming
    @InsaneBeautyGaming 17 днів тому

    Went to Epcot a few months ago and GOTG made the whole day for me and my group. The rest of the day was literally such a bummer. We waited in line for ratatouille for two hours for it to break down when we got to the front. We then went on 3 caballeros and it broke down while we were on the ride. The parks clearly are suffering and it made us not even want to go back at all. It’s awful to know they keep trying to take more money out of you yet refuse to put care into the parks. It also feels like Disney no longer has any sense of creative and would rather focus on things that are popular like Marvel (im aware they own the ip) but there is only so much you can do with superheroes.