I understand this explanation completely. Its just weird how the majority of the time reported earthquakes are downgraded, instead of upgraded. Why is this?
magnitude changing is also depend on the epicenter distance to the recorders. for example, Mw value of any EQ can be calculated differently at closer recorder and at farthermost recorder.
Thank you...I have been watching earthquakes with a youtuber Dutchsinse for nearly the last 11 years....I have wondered why we get different magnitude reports.
Anyway...I hope all This gets studied better to protect human lives and know this is The Dutchsinse Goal even though his criticism of USGS and thoughts of his fans is Not Appreciated.
If the Richter scale is not suitable above mg5, why would you you publish measurements based on Richter principle, which are thus faulty above mg5 anyways? Why not just wait until the moment scale data comes in? Why not defunct any Richter measurement above mg generally?
Because it is really difficult to messure the Moment magnitude in small earthquakes and the Moment magnitude was calibrated to give the same magnitude value as the Richter magnitude for small earthquakes.
So how many OTHER official government agencies change the magnitude of earthquakes after reporting them? MUCH of the stored data is available to anyone who requests it but it obviously limited and NOT available to EVERYone who requests it. Sometime data is available at certain times and not others from the same station as observed bay a NUMBER of youtube posters who simply make the data available to subscribers with or without comment as to why. Getting a preliminary magnitude has nothing to do with complex processes deep in the earth because it is simply based on measurements. INTERPRETING it is based upon assumptions about processes happening deep in the earth. So initially there are measurements. Then a collection of these measurements are crunched and analyzed and interpreted. Determining the actual hypocenter is an interpretation so all calculations based upon it are subjective. The video makes it sound like settled science. The problem is the variables. One example is the slide at 3:53. The variables listed are Amplitude (measured) (Distance:calculated) Area (also calculated) and Rigidity( virtually unknown). Why do I say that rigidity is unknown? All of the rock in the calculated area would have to be reasonably sampled to the depth indicated to establish the rigidity and that has simply not happened on a sufficient scale. The sampling is far between and shallow. It has happened where and when there has been a reason for someone to drill for oil or water or some other reason not in a scientific or specific pattern. And certainly not to a uniform depth throughout earthquake prone regions. As I pointed out area and distance are both calculated and are based on the presumed (calculated) hypocenter. That is too many variables to reasonably call this scientific therefore many peopee do not find these calculation to be based on enough measurements and known data to be credible. Thus the label magic. I am a scientist with twenty years experience in medical labs and if I had worked this way we would have killed people not healed them.
I understand this explanation completely. Its just weird how the majority of the time reported earthquakes are downgraded, instead of upgraded. Why is this?
magnitude changing is also depend on the epicenter distance to the recorders. for example, Mw value of any EQ can be calculated differently at closer recorder and at farthermost recorder.
Thank you...I have been watching earthquakes with a youtuber Dutchsinse for nearly the last 11 years....I have wondered why we get different magnitude reports.
Anyway...I hope all This gets studied better to protect human lives and know this is The Dutchsinse Goal even though his criticism of USGS and thoughts of his fans is Not Appreciated.
If the Richter scale is not suitable above mg5, why would you you publish measurements based on Richter principle, which are thus faulty above mg5 anyways? Why not just wait until the moment scale data comes in? Why not defunct any Richter measurement above mg generally?
Because it is really difficult to messure the Moment magnitude in small earthquakes and the Moment magnitude was calibrated to give the same magnitude value as the Richter magnitude for small earthquakes.
How about reporting magnitudes with their estimated errors, so people can know how much of a correction to expect?
@Maria Dowler catty
So how many OTHER official government agencies change the magnitude of earthquakes after reporting them? MUCH of the stored data is available to anyone who requests it but it obviously limited and NOT available to EVERYone who requests it. Sometime data is available at certain times and not others from the same station as observed bay a NUMBER of youtube posters who simply make the data available to subscribers with or without comment as to why. Getting a preliminary magnitude has nothing to do with complex processes deep in the earth because it is simply based on measurements. INTERPRETING it is based upon assumptions about processes happening deep in the earth. So initially there are measurements. Then a collection of these measurements are crunched and analyzed and interpreted. Determining the actual hypocenter is an interpretation so all calculations based upon it are subjective. The video makes it sound like settled science. The problem is the variables. One example is the slide at 3:53. The variables listed are Amplitude (measured) (Distance:calculated) Area (also calculated) and Rigidity( virtually unknown). Why do I say that rigidity is unknown? All of the rock in the calculated area would have to be reasonably sampled to the depth indicated to establish the rigidity and that has simply not happened on a sufficient scale. The sampling is far between and shallow. It has happened where and when there has been a reason for someone to drill for oil or water or some other reason not in a scientific or specific pattern. And certainly not to a uniform depth throughout earthquake prone regions. As I pointed out area and distance are both calculated and are based on the presumed (calculated) hypocenter. That is too many variables to reasonably call this scientific therefore many peopee do not find these calculation to be based on enough measurements and known data to be credible. Thus the label magic. I am a scientist with twenty years experience in medical labs and if I had worked this way we would have killed people not healed them.
very helpful info. thanks
Hum it’s normal USGS downgrade hardly ?
If Japanese Agence said that the earthquake is 6.0 in Osaka it’s true.
Not a 5.3