How China's 4th Aircraft Carrier May Help Close Gap on the U.S. in the Pacific | Taiwan Talks EP356

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  • Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
  • China has confirmed it is building a fourth aircraft carrier in its bid to close the power gap with the U.S. and the world’s largest carrier fleet. Experts are expecting China’s new carrier to be nuclear powered, like U.S. and French carriers, with virtually unlimited range.
    Our guests:
    Yen-pin Su
    - Professor, National Chengchi University Department of Political Science
    Wen-Ti Sung
    - Non-Resident Fellow, Atlantic Council Global China Hub
    And from Melbourne:
    Malcolm Davis
    - Senior Fellow, Australian Strategic Policy Institute
    #AircraftCarrier #Shandong #Fujian #Liaoning #RedSea #IslandChain

КОМЕНТАРІ • 126

  • @fennec-aguyfrompoland786
    @fennec-aguyfrompoland786 Місяць тому +2

    30K subs - I am so happy ! - Congratulations !

  • @samhy
    @samhy Місяць тому +7

    Wrong with poor analysis, China PLA's Navy to prevent US aircraft carrier strike groups sails through the first island chain intervened with aid independent force in Taiwan island💪💪💪

    • @JesusisGod-no3bi
      @JesusisGod-no3bi Місяць тому +2

      God bless you China 🇨🇳🇨🇳..

    • @LanNguyen-vd4zt
      @LanNguyen-vd4zt Місяць тому

      Why air craft carrier ? Air craft carrier are not an aerial denial weapon system?

  • @fennec-aguyfrompoland786
    @fennec-aguyfrompoland786 Місяць тому +1

    Sending Love from Gdańsk Poland.♥

  • @rhysezfpv
    @rhysezfpv Місяць тому +2

    US Nuclear Trident Submarines . --" lol thats cute China has 4 now 😆😆"

    • @defaultname354
      @defaultname354 Місяць тому +1

      Not sure why you should be proud of this. When homeland is melting now? The homeless don't even look homeless they litterally look like zombies.

    • @SaneTan1027
      @SaneTan1027 Місяць тому +1

      I hope it's not made of ice water😂😂😂

    • @james97531
      @james97531 Місяць тому +1

      Homeless you mean voluntary open air drug users? Do you always try to dumb everything down to the lowest common denominator? So I can't have anything nice because you see "homeless"? Homeland is doing fine. We're still the number one economy, leading in almost all tech industries, and you have Rights you wouldn't with either of our nearest neighbors Canada or Mexico. Stop complaining. Or try moving somewhere else so you can gain perspective.

    • @james97531
      @james97531 Місяць тому

      Be brave, use your name and face instead of anonymity and a cartoon dog avatar.

    • @amunra5330
      @amunra5330 Місяць тому

      @@james97531 Actually you are NOT leading in the tech industry. The US is behind in semi-conductor tech (you rely on Taiwan and South Korea) you are behind in EV tech, you are behind in AI tech, you are behind in Hydrogen energy tech, you are behind in rocket tech, you are behind in lithium battery tech, you are behind in shipbuilding tech, you are behind in quantum computing tech.

  • @fennec-aguyfrompoland786
    @fennec-aguyfrompoland786 Місяць тому +6

    Let the beauty of Taiwanese democracy spread around the World !

    • @james97531
      @james97531 Місяць тому +1

      Love it. I love Poland, strongest of all European countries, fears no one, full of promise and happiness. Not like the others in the EU, bunch of over compensating whiners.

    • @dan61131
      @dan61131 22 дні тому

      Not a single communist Chinese gov set foot in Taiwan...
      Communism don't have a single historic foot of claim to Taiwan.
      But on the other hand, free Taiwanese government & people has ruled China... they have a historic claim over China.
      On South East Asian, not a single communist have step foot on WPS, even Mao hasn't sail to WPS. So the claim of Chinese communist in Spratly or inside Philippines EEZ is a sinking sands, null & void according to International law!

  • @NickvonZ
    @NickvonZ Місяць тому +2

    How's your Mandarin?

  • @Terracotta-warriors_Sea
    @Terracotta-warriors_Sea Місяць тому +3

    One has to acknowledge that it is the best looking aircraft carrier with clean lines and uncluttered design!

    • @peterchan3889
      @peterchan3889 Місяць тому +2

      Ya, it looks alot better than Uncle Sam carrier
      CHINA carrier loads alot of advanced weapon.

  • @jeromebesson
    @jeromebesson Місяць тому

    How do they say “Mahanism” in Chinese?

  • @jemai15
    @jemai15 Місяць тому +1

    On the otherhand the USA and allied forces, NATO , G7 are surely also expending up its military on all sides.

    • @JesusisGod-no3bi
      @JesusisGod-no3bi Місяць тому

      America and NATO will let Taiwan be like Ukraine..
      😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
      God bless you China 🇨🇳..

  • @undertamker9606
    @undertamker9606 Місяць тому +1

    They just paint the same ship in different colors and claim they made a new ship lol

    • @SpruceWood-NEG
      @SpruceWood-NEG Місяць тому +1

      Buy a paid account for BeiDou or GPS, and then go check it out, and you'll know. The fourth aircraft carrier has completed its hull, nuclear power, and 105000 tons. You won't be so poor that you can't afford a regular business account for $4000 a year, right?

    • @undertamker9606
      @undertamker9606 Місяць тому

      @@SpruceWood-NEG I think 🤔 your masters spend enough on key board fighter like you

    • @SpruceWood-NEG
      @SpruceWood-NEG Місяць тому +2

      @@undertamker9606 Can't you use Google Maps to see what is being built in Chinese shipyards. I've already told you the method, do you still have to deliver the rice to your mouth? Are you a baby?

    • @undertamker9606
      @undertamker9606 Місяць тому

      @@SpruceWood-NEG lemme guess 50 cents per comment 🤔

  • @skanthaadsigns
    @skanthaadsigns Місяць тому +1

    True that these Naval vessels numerically even out the 7th Fleet however China needs a “Midway”, “Guam” or a “Pearl Harbour” network across the Pacific to be a formidable challenger due to logistical issues. Nevertheless 👍

    • @DimeDoppler
      @DimeDoppler Місяць тому +1

      Why would they waste money on all that? China doesn't need to go past Guam. Control their half of the Pacific and be able to to keep their oil from the middle east moving uninterrupted by India or the West. Indian Ocean commerce is more important than anything past Guam.

    • @SpruceWood-NEG
      @SpruceWood-NEG Місяць тому

      Why does China need Midway and Pearl Harbor. We just need to ensure that no one can intervene by force when unifying the country, and our navy can protect China's interests. We don't need to take global action.

  • @learncoding122
    @learncoding122 Місяць тому +5

    India now develop INS Vishal, Indigenous 3rd Aircraft Carrier.

    • @peterchan3889
      @peterchan3889 Місяць тому

      India unable to built aircraft carrier, instead they want to buy from France.

    • @JesusisGod-no3bi
      @JesusisGod-no3bi Місяць тому +1

      India gets greetings from Elon from China...
      God bless you China 🇨🇳

    • @JesusisGod-no3bi
      @JesusisGod-no3bi Місяць тому +1

      India gets greetings from Elon from China
      God bless you China 🇨🇳..

    • @tashiyann3262
      @tashiyann3262 23 дні тому

      india 80 percent populations depends on 5 kilos of rice from the government and 1 percent owns 40 percent wealth of India so they sacrifice the 1 kilo of rice to have 3rd carrier.

  • @JesusisGod-no3bi
    @JesusisGod-no3bi Місяць тому +3

    GOD BLESS YOU CHINA 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳..

    • @JesusisGod-no3bi
      @JesusisGod-no3bi Місяць тому +2

      @@1radar People like you lack knowledge, it's better not to talk about things you don't know.
      I'm not a fool you can lie to about this...
      GOD bless you china 🇨🇳 ✝️ 🇨🇳..

  • @ShaneShaneshiny
    @ShaneShaneshiny 29 днів тому

    Quality 🇺🇸 vs Quantity 🇨🇳 😂😅

  • @AlreadyHere-
    @AlreadyHere- 27 днів тому +1

    with all there talk and analysis , at the end of the day China will wipe there feet with US navy in Asia , what's 11 or 100 air craft carrier gonna do when you have 50+ ports in Chinese east coast and Taiwan province.

  • @filipinutt
    @filipinutt Місяць тому

    Damn that guy has a big head

  • @jeffreyrosario1670
    @jeffreyrosario1670 21 день тому

    Nuclear power aircraft carrier fuel by tofu materials maybe..

  • @SavageMonkey782
    @SavageMonkey782 Місяць тому +4

    Still Made in China...

    • @mikezhang2351
      @mikezhang2351 Місяць тому

      well, no one can live without it. 😢🎉😂

    • @SavageMonkey782
      @SavageMonkey782 Місяць тому +1

      @@mikezhang2351 is air and water also made in China? If it is then I can't live without it.

    • @Bk6346
      @Bk6346 Місяць тому

      In 2020, China made up a staggering 35% of global gross manufacturing production. That is more than the combined output of the United States (12%), Japan (6%), Germany (4%), India (3%), South Korea (3%), Italy (2%), France (2%), and the United Kingdom.

    • @SavageMonkey782
      @SavageMonkey782 Місяць тому

      @@Bk6346 still made in china

  • @fennec-aguyfrompoland786
    @fennec-aguyfrompoland786 Місяць тому +4

    The One and Only independent Taiwan.

    • @bookheartlove
      @bookheartlove Місяць тому +1

      No tawan china part
      Xi gratt

    • @user-ii2lm6kg2g
      @user-ii2lm6kg2g Місяць тому +1

      There is no such thing as independent Taiwan.
      Even Taiwanese constitution explicitly said Taiwan and China is one country

    • @Bk6346
      @Bk6346 Місяць тому

      Taiwan citizens have never held a referendum on independence or declared independence.

  • @mytaroboy
    @mytaroboy Місяць тому +4

    It’s another floating coffin…

    • @isheysantiago5767
      @isheysantiago5767 Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @henryloh4346
      @henryloh4346 Місяць тому

      Suitable for you

    • @mytaroboy
      @mytaroboy Місяць тому

      @@henryloh4346 another chinese fake carrier that wiill just kill Chinese Navy man...just like the submarine that sunk near Taiwan..and the detroyer just recenlty exploaded because of bad design...isn't it that China cant event but good at copying only...even to copy, they cant do it right...even China's EV cars burn like bushes..why?

  • @jaytabulod5650
    @jaytabulod5650 Місяць тому +5

    hahhahaha..how about the quality? hahahhaa...

    • @amunra5330
      @amunra5330 Місяць тому +1

      Well its of good quality. How is the Philippines these days still a poor country? I heard you still beg the US for money.

    • @SavageMonkey782
      @SavageMonkey782 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@amunra5330 I remembered a chinese coast guard ram one of our coast guard and it got a hole...talking about Chinese paper ships..you jealous no one giving you money? Hahaaha

    • @amunra5330
      @amunra5330 Місяць тому

      @@SavageMonkey782 I heard that the Philippines is just a whore house for the US military is it true?

    • @jaytabulod5650
      @jaytabulod5650 Місяць тому +1

      @@amunra5330 its better to be poor country than to known as greedy and thief country.

    • @isheysantiago5767
      @isheysantiago5767 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂 2mahol ang chikwa

  • @user-ne8yi1io4h
    @user-ne8yi1io4h 13 днів тому

    China lost Taiwan to the Japanese imperial colonial power because China did not have a strong navy to repulse their invasion. Never again will China lose territories with a strong navy. Simple. I answered your question. No need to interview anyone else.

  • @brand8590
    @brand8590 Місяць тому +3

    lol. For China's first aircraft carrier they bought an old soviet carrier from Ukraine. That was a casino. China's second aircraft carrier was a copy of the casino.
    China's third aircraft carrier meant to rival the current American carriers with electromagnetic launch system (stolen tech from the US) still doesn't work.
    China has no aircraft even capable of using such technology. Their J-15 is more funny than threatening.
    China's fourth aircraft carrier is... who knows. There's more smoke and mirrors here than anything else.
    I know for a fact the US Navy does not fear any of them. China's military across the board is more "face" than fact.
    China's PLAAF was shotting their mouth off a short time ago. "We'll meet you in the skies" said the senior Chinese Airforce general. A couple of months ago the Chinese were using their super stealth (not) aircraft when they bumped into a couple of US F-35's. Suddenly all bragado stopped. It seems our boys scared the Chinese pilots.
    China's PLAAF will never see an F-22. They'll be dead, and never even know where it came from.
    Look the plan is simple should war break out. No one wants to step one foot on mainland China or needs to. A couple of US destroyers in the Malacca straits. China would be deindustrialized within a year followed by terrible famines thereafter. The Chinese are desperately reliant upon world trade and in the worst position to be starting a war. China will destroy themselves.
    Holding China off Taiwan is the only question, and those plans are well in progress.
    China has nothing to "win" here.

    • @amunra5330
      @amunra5330 Місяць тому

      Brand lol Your country is crumbling lol You owe 33 Trillion in debt and pay over a TRILLION dollars a YEAR in interest payments to your creditors lol Your latest Aircraft carrier is short by over 500 crew because the navy fell short of its recruitment goals 3 years in a row lol. Your cities are becoming more lawless - try parking in downtown Baltimore and see what happens lol

  • @ongelxinnch8978
    @ongelxinnch8978 Місяць тому

    怕吗,对我很怕要三尿了

  • @rickymabag1334
    @rickymabag1334 Місяць тому +2

    Trash 🗑 🚮 quality after one year reper😂😂

    • @mikezhang2351
      @mikezhang2351 Місяць тому

      barking. 😢😮😅 only barking.

  • @arbiepanado9203
    @arbiepanado9203 Місяць тому

    👹

  • @peterchan3889
    @peterchan3889 Місяць тому +6

    Yes, "CHINA" built more, more and more advanced weapons.
    GO CHINA GO 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳 protect 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼.

  • @tonysu8860
    @tonysu8860 Місяць тому +1

    The discussion is only about CCP aspirations and possible strategy to attain ill defined objectives... Ill defined because China has totally failed at creating even a small crack in the alliance of Pacific island nations the US has organized and backstops .
    Nuclear propulsion could in theory enable China to project military power without depending on nearby military bases but China lacks technological expertise and operational knowledge. Nuclear aircraft carriers are some if the most advanced and complex weapons systems in its arsenal and it has taken a hundred years of intense effort to develop the capability while China is barely at the crawling stage. The Type 003 Fujian isn't nuclear and at least 5 years if ever operational and may eventually be considered another mistake with hardly any capability.
    Lacking aircraft carriers is an issue separate from China's aspirations to become a naval power, though. China may follow the Russian path and just load up enormous missiles on ships. The difference between a missile vs aircraft navy is apparent though... Missiles might be economical to a point but are fully expendable including its delivery whereas aircraft are reusable delivery platforms so that the main cost per attack is the warhead. In a long running conflict more than a few days or weeks, the side using aircraft has a substantial advantage.

    • @Chup-os2uf
      @Chup-os2uf Місяць тому

      Sour grape dog talking😂

    • @james97531
      @james97531 Місяць тому

      Tony I agree.

    • @james97531
      @james97531 Місяць тому

      Sour grapes means jealousy or envy. If you think we are jealous or envious of China you're a genius, just not here.

  • @think_again82
    @think_again82 Місяць тому +4

    It means that Taiwan is already closer in Chinas grasp

    • @james97531
      @james97531 Місяць тому

      Think again

    • @think_again82
      @think_again82 22 дні тому

      @@james97531 yes it is china is just scared to make the first move to taiwan

  • @ceciliacabrito4814
    @ceciliacabrito4814 Місяць тому +4

    Disposable carrier,pathetic😂

    • @user-ii2lm6kg2g
      @user-ii2lm6kg2g Місяць тому

      Ahh ... good for you to think so..
      Then China already won with its long term strategy.
      Ask Elon Musk 🤣

  • @lincolneserio7620
    @lincolneserio7620 Місяць тому +9

    LOW STANDARD. POOR QUALITY....

    • @VIAGRA465
      @VIAGRA465 Місяць тому +3

      Like landing on Mars right on the first attempt ?

    • @amunra5330
      @amunra5330 Місяць тому +3

      You do realize that China built a space station and will build moon base in 10 years right. Anyways good luck in your country as they figure of what is woman.

    • @VIAGRA465
      @VIAGRA465 Місяць тому +2

      @@amunra5330 u gonna have to encourage your country men to work harder so u have something nice to say about other Country.

    • @lincolneserio7620
      @lincolneserio7620 Місяць тому

      @@amunra5330 Am I Asking????

    • @SpruceWood-NEG
      @SpruceWood-NEG Місяць тому

      @@lincolneserio7620 We just saw you as a clown, very happy.

  • @TaiwanNationStatusQuo
    @TaiwanNationStatusQuo Місяць тому +1

    墻大的中國太牛屄了。祝浮件艦威武不能移,沉於落焰。

  • @petermelville5524
    @petermelville5524 Місяць тому

    That is a good point, re-symbolism rather than functionality. China's small fleet of carriers are theatrical, whether due to their being based on dysfunctional refits or unproven indigenous designs. The US has 11 proven CSG's, centered on nuclear powered carriers, and 9 ESG's centered on smaller carriers. All of these vessels are part of their own battle group, typically including other ships and a submarine. The US Navy has other capacities on top of this. The amount of power projection that the US has is unmatched, and will be for the foreseeable. future.. This show could foreground existing capacities rather than speculating on the efficacy of the PLAN. Military analysis should focus on Taiwans defense considering that the battle space is actually moving to the upper atmosphere and space...specifically missile and communication capacities.

    • @DucaTech
      @DucaTech Місяць тому +1

      That's nice. How's that helping American taxpayers and the homelessness? And out of the 11 carriers, how many are fully operational at a single moment?

  • @james97531
    @james97531 Місяць тому +1

    China is not a blue water navy now or for a few years to come. Their battleships and destroyers cannot travel far from their domestic naval bases because of refueling problems. They can't refuel using their artificial islands because those done have enough gas for all those big ships. They can have a nuke aircraft carrier but it'll be traveling alone until it updates at least enough of their fighting ships to escort and protect the carrier. If not then they can only deploy to the east coast of Taiwan as they did during the last Taiwan elections. Ineffective danger rattling that didn't even scare Taiwanese. What's going to happen when they try that with a successful and effective blue water navy. Also their electromagnetic launchers on the fujian aren't working, the power plant doesn't generate enough electricity for sustained use. And they still can takeoff and land on their carriers, they don't have trained pilots and even if they did the Carriers can't launch and catch anything but their smallest aircraft or only partially loaded fighter jets. Does the USA, France, etc have this problem? They're launching fully loaded F35s. Saber rattling doesn't scare warriors.

    • @jaytabulod5650
      @jaytabulod5650 Місяць тому +1

      its because fujian is made in china 😅😅😅😅 the imitation from other country...they can imitate the some but they cant imitate the whole hahahhaha... BASTA made in china fake.

    • @james97531
      @james97531 Місяць тому

      You can steal tech like the em catapult, you can try to make a nuke reactor work (good luck, don't get radiation poisoning) but you can't steal skills learned over a century of unmatched combat effectiveness. No one comes close. Good luck trying to catch up. They tried to bribe US pilots to teach them. Nope.

  • @stiven_ph8656
    @stiven_ph8656 Місяць тому +2

    MADE IN CHINA😂😂😂

    • @user-ii2lm6kg2g
      @user-ii2lm6kg2g Місяць тому +1

      Guaranteed of top quality, just like your iPhone.

  • @kamito961
    @kamito961 Місяць тому +3

    Funny thing about China is, it builds Aircraft Carrier and after an year it breaks down and goes back to Shipyard for repairs. So Chinese carrier looks big but how worth it is, its a question. Recent spy footages shows cracks on the New Fusian Chinese Aircraft Carrier and efforts were made by Chinese to hide it from the public, thats hilarious. This is a proof of poor quality output in a huddle to rollout too many ships in short time, and thats hurts quality of the product. Aircraft Carriers are not produced on the production line like ordinary products. Enough time must be given to the product to mature and perform well for long time. China does lot of Show Off but it looses on its credibility. Just Look at Taiwan, Taiwanese products are known for their better quality and reliability. Taiwanese don't do Show Off they just work smart, kept better relations with the world and has achieved the success, that's it.

    • @Chup-os2uf
      @Chup-os2uf Місяць тому +2

      Dog talking can make you sleep better😂

    • @flyingnan2520
      @flyingnan2520 Місяць тому

      Your question is just based on an imaginary China which appears in the fake propaganda of western and Taiwan medias, not based on the real China.

    • @isheysantiago5767
      @isheysantiago5767 Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂lol

    • @TSUTENKAKU007
      @TSUTENKAKU007 Місяць тому

      You are so correct. All communist nations manufacture are all the same, that is, :poor quality . Anyone with common sense can spot faulty quality. That's why many other countries will not buy poor quality and unreliable weapons from China. China doesn't even have carrier based aircraft unlike U.S. variety version of F-35. Also China simply doesn't have any combat experience with aircraft carriers but U.S.has very long history.

  • @Optimumprime728
    @Optimumprime728 Місяць тому +3

    Taiwan is independent country . probably that ship is made by tofu drag😂😂😂

    • @mikezhang2351
      @mikezhang2351 Місяць тому

      barking. just barking.😢😅

    • @user-ii2lm6kg2g
      @user-ii2lm6kg2g Місяць тому

      Haha.. even Taiwanese constitution explicitly declared that Taiwan and China is one country.
      And as for Chinese technology.. Good for you to think so.
      China plays the long game.
      And just like Elon, he came to realization that Tesla is finished :)

    • @isheysantiago5767
      @isheysantiago5767 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂lol

    • @Bk6346
      @Bk6346 Місяць тому

      Taiwan has never declared independence. It is not a part of the UN and only 13 countries recognize Taiwan.

  • @Toddnesbitt
    @Toddnesbitt Місяць тому +1

    That's twice I had to turn your program off can you please get guests who can speak somewhat fluent English it's really frustrating to find these guys were just to say a single line they they stumble over lines that take a minute or two. You've got a good program and it's just really frustrating to have to sit through these guys taking forever to say even a simple idea. I'm sorry I don't mean to be mean but this is maddening.

    • @nuckingfuts9515
      @nuckingfuts9515 Місяць тому +3

      I think it would be better if they speak in their language and have subtitles for viewers?

    • @petermelville5524
      @petermelville5524 Місяць тому

      xi bots? Try harder to be a human. Listening is a skill and this program is comprehensive, with critical content articulated.

    • @Toddnesbitt
      @Toddnesbitt Місяць тому

      That's a great idea

    • @Toddnesbitt
      @Toddnesbitt Місяць тому

      Easy, it was just a thought

  • @Chup-os2uf
    @Chup-os2uf Місяць тому +1

    Congratulations 🇨🇳 .superb and dignified achievement.

  • @user-lb9bt7mq7f
    @user-lb9bt7mq7f Місяць тому

    Tagp n nmn china dito.