The HCSB is actually a different translation. The HCSB uses less traditional language(EX: the poor in spirit are blessed vs blessed are the poor in spirit) and pits the “omitted” verses in brackets vs footnotes. The CSB is more traditional in its language and uses footnotes exclusively. Both great translations
I own the CSB Study Bible and read and study and teach from it daily. I very much like the depth of the notes and also the Hebrew and Greek word studies (wish there were more of them). The various articles are also very good. Like you, am aware of their predestination leaning in some of the notes. I can look past them and still get a lot out of the various features of this bible. I especially like the translation of this bible. Better than the NIV and I think ESV versions. Overall, I would give it a 8-9:10 rating. I also agree with you about having them put the actual Hebrew or Greek word in the word study boxes. Thanks for a very well balanced review!
Thanks so much for such a thorough and thoughtful review of this Bible. While I am interested in the production value of a Bible, what matters most to me is content, and this is hands down the best review of the content I have had the pleasure to see.
Great review. Thanks for your time. I purchased the Tony Evans csb bible. I haven't gone through it yet but plan to do a review. Your study bible sounds amazing. I appreciate all the things you highlighted especially the what happened in between books, the OT bold in the NT and the Greek reference. Lastly, the maps is a great bonus. I didn't know csb does not lean towards or favor women in head roles. I only got the csb because my findings states it's translation is close to the original text for the most part. Looking for to exploring more of your channel.
@XvRXyZ So far, I like it. With arthritis in my hands, I can only use it at a desk. The notes are good, and I like the translation for its smooth readability.
I agree that I wish the study Bible has the Hebrew and Greek words in their original languages. I just took a year of Biblical Greek and one year in Biblical Hebrew, so I wrote in the space in my own personal notes what the word is haha. Great study Bible review!
I already have a HCSB Study Bible. Are the study notes the same in the CSB study Bible as the HCSB Study Bible? Other than the translation update are the study bibles the same?
Just out of curiosity, why do you like the CSB more than the ESV? I really like both. My only issue with the CSB is it seems less literary than the ESV or even the NIV in the sections where it seems a higher register would be more appropriate (e.g. Luke's prologue, Hebrews, maybe certain poetic sections).
I just did a study on Genesis 1 and this is not what I found in regards to them being "fluid". For example, they actually said in Genesis 1 that it is a literal 24-hour day. In other words they denounce the Gap Theory.
Thanks for reviewing the Study Bible JM! In terms of comparing the CSB Study Bible and the ESV Study Bible, is there one that you would prefer over the other? I’m trying to gauge which one is more thorough and yet also balanced (as balanced as two different tradition focused study bibles can be).
They're a toss-up, IMO. It depends on whether you want a Southern Baptist or a Reformed leaning resource. I like the CSB better as a translation than the ESV. But the essays in the ESV SB are more robust. As a non-Calvinist, non-Complementarian I find the CSB SB a little less frustrating, personally.
So, I’m getting my first study Bible, and I was looking for something as comprehensive and as unbiased as possible. I’m not really part of a specific church denomination, but it seems to me it’s pretty close between this one and ESV. Which would you recommend best?
@@DiscipleDojo I’m getting rid of my ESV because I’m what I jokingly call a Bapticostal & do not ascribe to reformed theology. I’m Arminian. My background is Nazarene & Assemblies of God, now Southern Baptist.
I don't see a huge difference between them overall, honestly. They are both somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, in terms of translation theory. I'm comfortable using both.
Biblical chronology flows from Ezr. & Neh. to Matt,, not Mal. to Matt. The Genesis text concerning the Flood also does not allow multiple views because Christ and Peter plainly taught that the whole world was flooded(Matt. 24:37-38, 1 Pet., 3:20, 2 Pet. 2:5), therefore a global flood is the only correct view.
Honestly, I don't know of many. If you can find the CEB with the Apocrypha, that's a pretty good one. I also know that there's an older Wesleyan Study Bible (not the Wesley Study Bible from Abingdon) that I've heard good things about. But I think the best bet is to just go with an ecumenical one like the NLT Illustrated Study Bible, the Life Application Study Bible, the Faithlife Study Bible, the Biblical Theology Study Bible, or the Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible.
So is it close to the kjv study Bible or like the esv study bibles as far as notes and commentary? I’m almost done with the kjv study Bible and it’s meh, most of it I know already or don’t agree with.
why study Koine Greek or Latin when you can read the bible in the Original English ? If it was good enough for Jesus when he founded America , it's good enough for me
„A just god is perfectly free to make such choices. God does not owe mercy to anyone“ „salvation is based on gods mercy. The situation is not that people want to be saved but cannot (2Tm 2:25-26) or they are running after god and cannot find him. Apart from god‘s drawing them, no one is seeking the on true god - not a single on (Rm 3:11-12)“ Study notes on Roman 9. not Arminian, but perfect biblical.👍
Please give Bible references which show that the worldwide flood in Genesis was actually not worldwide as you suggest many times in your responses to other people. Thank you.
I talk about it on the podcast in the "Genesis 1-11: The Primordial Preface" playlist at www.discipledojo.org/podcast There are arguments both for and against a truly 'global' flood; I find the latter more persuasive at the moment. But a good study Bible should note both views.
The contributors are mostly from different Baptist denominations, and the CSB is entirely owned by the Southern Baptist Convention/Lifeway. If this isn't a Baptist Bible, I don't know what would be.
0:20 Im gonna stop you right there while the CSB and ESV are commonly thought of as "Southern Baptist" and "Reformed" translations respectively, its not entirely accurate , both had broad selections of Evangelical translators working on them Also the idea that only baptists can be KJV-Onlyists is also misinformed , while that is the core of the movement plenty of non-baptist fundamentalists are KJV-only I really can't stand translation tribalism and stereotypes...
@@DiscipleDojo I did watch the video , and I liked it , I understand that I come off as ranty , it was not my intention to imply that you were advocated for those stereotypes ...
Be careful that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition, based on the elements of the world, rather than Christ. Colossians 2:8
@@DiscipleDojo because it was translated by men from different denominations and the translation committee was from various denominations. Just because its published by Holman and distributed by Lifeway does not make it a Baptist translation.
Yeah, somehow it got a reputation as a “Baptist Bible” and I’m afraid people will say “well, I’m not a Baptist, next!” It was in development for 14 years before Lifeway even got involved.
@@seansimpson485 first of all, the CSB is NOT a Baptist Bible. Secondly, there should never be a denominational or theological bias when translating the Holy Scriptures.
The HCSB is actually a different translation. The HCSB uses less traditional language(EX: the poor in spirit are blessed vs blessed are the poor in spirit) and pits the “omitted” verses in brackets vs footnotes. The CSB is more traditional in its language and uses footnotes exclusively. Both great translations
CSB comes from the HCSB though. They did change some direction with the translation but things like the Study Bible were carried over and updated.
"If the King James was good enough for Paul, it's good enough for me" 🤣😂
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Some people will miss the humor in this because they think it’s true. Lol
Amen ❤ I am KJV preferred.
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@@RUT812 Can’t tell if this is a troll comment or not but regardless it’s hysterical either way.
This is by far my favorite Bible review channel
Mine, too. It is a relief to learn about what is in the Bibles rather than listen to discussions about the weight of paper, the types of leather, etc.
I own the CSB Study Bible and read and study and teach from it daily. I very much like the depth of the notes and also the Hebrew and Greek word studies (wish there were more of them). The various articles are also very good. Like you, am aware of their predestination leaning in some of the notes. I can look past them and still get a lot out of the various features of this bible. I especially like the translation of this bible. Better than the NIV and I think ESV versions. Overall, I would give it a 8-9:10 rating. I also agree with you about having them put the actual Hebrew or Greek word in the word study boxes. Thanks for a very well balanced review!
Great points and I agree!
I have the “CSB Everyday Study Bible” it’s a concise version with the same study notes.
I like the way you make video reviews-you always explain it clearly and in details. Thanks for all your reviews. God bless you more.
Thanks so much for such a thorough and thoughtful review of this Bible. While I am interested in the production value of a Bible, what matters most to me is content, and this is hands down the best review of the content I have had the pleasure to see.
CSB = Cool Southern Baptist 😎
Haha, brilliant! But what does that make the HCSB??
@@DiscipleDojo Hearty Cool Southern Bible? (As in “Bless your heart)! 😂
HCSB = hardcore southern Baptist
@@tracypaterson1633 🤣
Great review. Thanks for your time. I purchased the Tony Evans csb bible. I haven't gone through it yet but plan to do a review. Your study bible sounds amazing. I appreciate all the things you highlighted especially the what happened in between books, the OT bold in the NT and the Greek reference. Lastly, the maps is a great bonus. I didn't know csb does not lean towards or favor women in head roles. I only got the csb because my findings states it's translation is close to the original text for the most part. Looking for to exploring more of your channel.
It’s really good.
I watched your review of the CSB Study Bible, and was impressed. I went out and bought one! 👍
how do you find it?
@XvRXyZ So far, I like it. With arthritis in my hands, I can only use it at a desk.
The notes are good, and I like the translation for its smooth readability.
Hey, love your videos, man. Keep going. I love when you, joking, said, "do not let me take my pitchfork".😀
I agree with you that is good to be exposed to the best scholarship of other theological positions. Excellent review and insights!
I agree that I wish the study Bible has the Hebrew and Greek words in their original languages. I just took a year of Biblical Greek and one year in Biblical Hebrew, so I wrote in the space in my own personal notes what the word is haha. Great study Bible review!
I do that all the time in mine!
I already have a HCSB Study Bible. Are the study notes the same in the CSB study Bible as the HCSB Study Bible? Other than the translation update are the study bibles the same?
For the most part, from what I can tell. I only have the HCSB notes on Logos, but the content that I've seen is largely similar.
@@DiscipleDojo great! thanks for the info and the channel. Great content!
Just out of curiosity, why do you like the CSB more than the ESV? I really like both. My only issue with the CSB is it seems less literary than the ESV or even the NIV in the sections where it seems a higher register would be more appropriate (e.g. Luke's prologue, Hebrews, maybe certain poetic sections).
The ESV is more wooden and it has a more noticeable Reformed Complementarian bias than the CSB, especially since it's last revision.
I just did a study on Genesis 1 and this is not what I found in regards to them being "fluid". For example, they actually said in Genesis 1 that it is a literal 24-hour day. In other words they denounce the Gap Theory.
Thanks for reviewing the Study Bible JM!
In terms of comparing the CSB Study Bible and the ESV Study Bible, is there one that you would prefer over the other? I’m trying to gauge which one is more thorough and yet also balanced (as balanced as two different tradition focused study bibles can be).
They're a toss-up, IMO. It depends on whether you want a Southern Baptist or a Reformed leaning resource. I like the CSB better as a translation than the ESV. But the essays in the ESV SB are more robust. As a non-Calvinist, non-Complementarian I find the CSB SB a little less frustrating, personally.
“Don’t make me get out my pitch fork.” 😂
Hmmm ~ The CSB in nothing like my HCSB Study Bible. I have both and prefer the HCSB. Interesting Review.🌺
I love my HCSB study too. Don’t think I want a CSB study Bible.
Why is this translation catorgized with souther baptist? I go to a General Baptist but idk the difference really i need to look into fhat lol
So, I’m getting my first study Bible, and I was looking for something as comprehensive and as unbiased as possible. I’m not really part of a specific church denomination, but it seems to me it’s pretty close between this one and ESV. Which would you recommend best?
This one if you lean slightly Baptist, ESV if you lean Reformed Baptist or Presbyterian. :-)
@@DiscipleDojo I’m getting rid of my ESV because I’m what I jokingly call a Bapticostal & do not ascribe to reformed theology. I’m Arminian. My background is Nazarene & Assemblies of God, now Southern Baptist.
get the CEV Challenge Study Bible
@@ilovemyboyfriend5425 Thank you, I did not that one existed.
I've come to similar conclusion as you.
Would you recommend this Bible for someone who is new to the CSB translation? And if so, do you think this study Bible is good as a primary Bible?
Yes and yes
I was using the CSB. I went to the NIV 2011. So how would you compare the CSB and NIV ?
I don't see a huge difference between them overall, honestly. They are both somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, in terms of translation theory. I'm comfortable using both.
Biblical chronology flows from Ezr. & Neh. to Matt,, not Mal. to Matt. The Genesis text concerning the Flood also does not allow multiple views because Christ and Peter plainly taught that the whole world was flooded(Matt. 24:37-38, 1 Pet., 3:20, 2 Pet. 2:5), therefore a global flood is the only correct view.
That is incorrect.
@@DiscipleDojo how is it incorrect?
Which source does it use for the old testament? Masoretic or Septuagint?
I believe it uses both when there are text-critical issues involved, but is based mostly on the BHS or Lenningrad Codex as its starting point.
So, what would be a good Methodist study Bible?
Honestly, I don't know of many. If you can find the CEB with the Apocrypha, that's a pretty good one. I also know that there's an older Wesleyan Study Bible (not the Wesley Study Bible from Abingdon) that I've heard good things about. But I think the best bet is to just go with an ecumenical one like the NLT Illustrated Study Bible, the Life Application Study Bible, the Faithlife Study Bible, the Biblical Theology Study Bible, or the Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible.
So is it close to the kjv study Bible or like the esv study bibles as far as notes and commentary?
I’m almost done with the kjv study Bible and it’s meh, most of it I know already or don’t agree with.
@@Starkwolf88 I think it is better than the KJVSB and about on par with the ESVSB.
@@DiscipleDojo thank you for the fast reply! And okay thank you I think I’ll check it out then. God bless
Is there a study bible that is non-denominational and isn’t biased? I just want the truth!
Have you reviewed csb women’s study Bible? Don’t know if the notes are the same?
I have not.
I love mine! ❤
😂😂😂 “if the kjv is good enough for st Paul, it’s good enough for me”
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why study Koine Greek or Latin when you can read the bible in the Original English ? If it was good enough for Jesus when he founded America , it's good enough for me
(and it may seem like im trying to expand the joke and end up failing
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but I just realised that I accidentally described Mormonism)
What about the views on Revelation 3 that this study Bible said?
Totoro and Homer Simpson on your bookshelf? LOL
You know it! 😅😅
I went with Godzilla and Gamera.
„A just god is perfectly free to make such choices. God does not owe mercy to anyone“
„salvation is based on gods mercy. The situation is not that people want to be saved but cannot (2Tm 2:25-26) or they are running after god and cannot find him. Apart from god‘s drawing them, no one is seeking the on true god - not a single on (Rm 3:11-12)“
Study notes on Roman 9. not Arminian, but perfect biblical.👍
Please give Bible references which show that the worldwide flood in Genesis was actually not worldwide as you suggest many times in your responses to other people. Thank you.
I talk about it on the podcast in the "Genesis 1-11: The Primordial Preface" playlist at www.discipledojo.org/podcast There are arguments both for and against a truly 'global' flood; I find the latter more persuasive at the moment. But a good study Bible should note both views.
@@DiscipleDojo thank you Sir, I will definitely check it out.
Can you review the Open bible?
If someone sends me one I'm happy to. :-)
Im with you i like the CSB more then the esv
Does it have life application notes?
Not really.
Yes Mt Sinai is in Saudi Arabia. 😊
Yes, Ron Wyatt proved that.
I don't believe the text allows for multiple views on creation and the flood.
It absolutely does.
ESV is definitely more conservative than the CSB
@@Commonwealth_Prepper nah...just more Reformed. CSB is Southern Baptist owned and their conservatism is the same as Crossway's.
There have been a lot of people from different denominations contributing to this Bible. I don't think you can call this a baptist study Bible.
The contributors are mostly from different Baptist denominations, and the CSB is entirely owned by the Southern Baptist Convention/Lifeway. If this isn't a Baptist Bible, I don't know what would be.
put my name in for drawing
There's no drawing for this.
@@DiscipleDojo ok
0:20 Im gonna stop you right there
while the CSB and ESV are commonly thought of as "Southern Baptist" and "Reformed" translations respectively, its not entirely accurate , both had broad selections of Evangelical translators working on them
Also the idea that only baptists can be KJV-Onlyists is also misinformed , while that is the core of the movement plenty of non-baptist fundamentalists are KJV-only
I really can't stand translation tribalism and stereotypes...
Maybe finish watching the video before stopping me right there.
@@DiscipleDojo I did watch the video , and I liked it , I understand that I come off as ranty , it was not my intention to imply that you were advocated for those stereotypes ...
Be careful that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition, based on the elements of the world, rather than Christ. Colossians 2:8
This is not a Baptist Bible.
Why do you say that?
@@DiscipleDojo because it was translated by men from different denominations and the translation committee was from various denominations. Just because its published by Holman and distributed by Lifeway does not make it a Baptist translation.
Yeah, somehow it got a reputation as a “Baptist Bible” and I’m afraid people will say “well, I’m not a Baptist, next!”
It was in development for 14 years before Lifeway even got involved.
So bibles should only be made to fit our denomination? So is it God's word or the word of a certain denomination?
@@seansimpson485 first of all, the CSB is NOT a Baptist Bible. Secondly, there should never be a denominational or theological bias when translating the Holy Scriptures.
Study the history of the translation before the video. Your knowledge of it is well below average.
Be specific if you want me to take your comment even remotely seriously.