I stumbled upon that Eroica Symphony in one of those Vox cardboard sleeve editions at a used cd shop for $1, and took a chance on it a couple years ago. It was like a big winner on a cheap lotto scratcher. Fantastic!
I sincerely hope Naxos starts boxing up some of the Vox catalogue. Just in Cincinnati, they recorded Gielen, Schippers and Susskind with a bunch of noteworthy soloists. In the so-called lighter repertoire, Vox had Erich Kunzel. Then there were Slatkin, Semkow and again Susskind in Saint Louis, Zinman in Rochester, Abravanel in Utah and Skrowaczewski in Minnesota.
Oh goodness thanks. Busoni is one of the most underrated composers until he gets overrated- there’s still some equilibial process going on there! But that Sarabande and Cortège, well you can’t be left in much doubt about the quality. I know it’s an early work, but who couldn’t enjoy the finale of the violin concerto? One of those things everyone should hear :-) it totally lifts the spirits
A very important recording for me, bought back in the mists of time (circa 1984) while I was on spring break during college while staying with my buddy's family in their lovely house in Boulder, Colorado. This was around the time of the famous "where's the beef?" Mondale/Hart debate. I remember I was playing Szell's Wagner Ring highlights album a lot in the rental car as I tooled around the vistas of Rocky Mountain National Park. My colleagues and I dined in nearby Louisville, Colorado (I'm from Louisville, Ky., coincidentally) and there found a neat little record store with a huge classical department and bought the original LP of this Eroica. I later ended up with two copies of the original issued single CD, not the Vox Box one you're showing. It wasn't until I discovered the Scherchen performance later that I encountered a faster tempo than Gielen. Of course, I loved the Gielen for all the same reasons as you and everyone else have stated.
Great vid! I was in Cinci back then, in grad school at CCM. Went to the concerts, had an especially memorable Mahler 6 with him. Sang chorus in some modern piece with Gielen, and a couple of years before that was in the chorus of his Mahler 8 in Vienna. The Eroica has been a favorite of mine since it came out.
Previous to this there was an Eroica with the Vienna State Opera Orchestra on audio fidelity that named Gielen as the conductor. He denied that it was his.
Round about 30 years ago, I read in fonoforum (the german classic magazine) about Gielen’s Eroica. The magazine was from 1980. The recording was highly recommended. I was very lucky to found it on cd. Since then it is one of my favourite recordings of this symphony. Greetings from Northern Germany
I will never forget a recording by the Vienna State Opera Orchestra conducted by Hermann Scherchen of Mahler's 5th Symphony where the very ending timpani stroke at the end of the 2nd movement was played Triple Forte rather than the original composer s intention of Double piannisomo. It literally scared the Hell out of me . My needle on the vinyl record actually jumped up !!!
I think there were a couple of Thomas Schippers / Cincinnati sets on VOXBOX. Did you have a chance to do Schippers? I remember his music was relaxed and unhurried type.
David, this is another off-topic suggestion, but I am asked sometimes by younger folk I interact with about classical music and such; what I cannot answer or enthuse over, I direct to your channel as a most entertaining education and introduction to many composers and music. I wonder (perhaps you have already done so, or are planning it) if you would consider a chat about musical literary things. In other words, what sort of writings you would recommend as an introduction to music we love that would not be too heavy for a general listener (or as Ernest Newman called the "plain musical man"). Even entertaining biographies, etc., that you feel are springboards for greater appreciation and interest. I managed, for example, to get a couple of younger friends interested in Berlioz, and they in particular also enjoyed parts of his Memoirs and wonderful Evenings in the Orchestra; certainly his humor was not lost on them, and widened their understanding of the man as well as the artist. Well, sorry this is so long. But your calling attention to such worthy literary gems and books would I think be interesting stuff from someone as well-read and superbly communicating as you are here. All the best...
Honestly, they should listen, just listen, and if they find music that interests them and want to learn more, then let that guide them. There is no substitute for the music itself, and I can only speak for myself when I say that I have never found my way to any kind of music by reading about it before listening--and having listened, the reading may be enjoyable for itself, but is otherwise uneccessary to the experience of music.
@@DavesClassicalGuide Thank you, David, for your response. I guess I should have made it more plain I introduce the music first (well, to my few vs your thousands!) and then direct them to anything interesting they might read about it or the composer. You are absolutely correct that that is the way. My own musical education, such as it was, was reading program notes at the Symphony, the backs of LP's, those irritating little fold in notes in cassettes, and the booklets of CD's. Not readily available to those who now use the streaming world for their music. Why I love your channel, as have some of my more youthful friends just starting out. The experience IS the thing, and you do yeoman's work on YT for that. Just thought it would be fascinating and educational, after having discovered the music, what reading you yourself found furthered that enjoyable or profound discovery. Thanks again...
I stumbled upon that Eroica Symphony in one of those Vox cardboard sleeve editions at a used cd shop for $1, and took a chance on it a couple years ago. It was like a big winner on a cheap lotto scratcher. Fantastic!
I sincerely hope Naxos starts boxing up some of the Vox catalogue. Just in Cincinnati, they recorded Gielen, Schippers and Susskind with a bunch of noteworthy soloists. In the so-called lighter repertoire, Vox had Erich Kunzel. Then there were Slatkin, Semkow and again Susskind in Saint Louis, Zinman in Rochester, Abravanel in Utah and Skrowaczewski in Minnesota.
Oh goodness thanks. Busoni is one of the most underrated composers until he gets overrated- there’s still some equilibial process going on there! But that Sarabande and Cortège, well you can’t be left in much doubt about the quality. I know it’s an early work, but who couldn’t enjoy the finale of the violin concerto? One of those things everyone should hear :-) it totally lifts the spirits
A very important recording for me, bought back in the mists of time (circa 1984) while I was on spring break during college while staying with my buddy's family in their lovely house in Boulder, Colorado. This was around the time of the famous "where's the beef?" Mondale/Hart debate. I remember I was playing Szell's Wagner Ring highlights album a lot in the rental car as I tooled around the vistas of Rocky Mountain National Park. My colleagues and I dined in nearby Louisville, Colorado (I'm from Louisville, Ky., coincidentally) and there found a neat little record store with a huge classical department and bought the original LP of this Eroica. I later ended up with two copies of the original issued single CD, not the Vox Box one you're showing. It wasn't until I discovered the Scherchen performance later that I encountered a faster tempo than Gielen. Of course, I loved the Gielen for all the same reasons as you and everyone else have stated.
Great vid! I was in Cinci back then, in grad school at CCM. Went to the concerts, had an especially memorable Mahler 6 with him. Sang chorus in some modern piece with Gielen, and a couple of years before that was in the chorus of his Mahler 8 in Vienna.
The Eroica has been a favorite of mine since it came out.
Wish you would do a video on history of Vox
I discussed it already elsewhere.
Previous to this there was an Eroica with the Vienna State Opera Orchestra on audio fidelity that named Gielen as the conductor. He denied that it was his.
Round about 30 years ago, I read in fonoforum (the german classic magazine) about Gielen’s Eroica. The magazine was from 1980. The recording was highly recommended. I was very lucky to found it on cd. Since then it is one of my favourite recordings of this symphony. Greetings from Northern Germany
I know Fonoforum very, very well. Its former editor is one of my best friends.
@@DavesClassicalGuide Sören Meyer-Eller ? You mentioned him in your videos (Earquake on Ondine).
@@arneheinemann3893 Yes.
Years ago I bought this wonderful vinyl for $1! Living so close to Cincinnati I regret never hearing him conduct live.
I will never forget a recording by the Vienna State Opera Orchestra conducted by Hermann Scherchen of Mahler's 5th Symphony where the very ending timpani stroke at the end of the 2nd movement was played Triple Forte rather than the original composer s intention of Double piannisomo. It literally scared the Hell out of me . My needle on the vinyl record actually jumped up !!!
FYI: The whole thing is available for streaming and download. And sounds great. The percussion in the Busoni really rock!
I think there were a couple of Thomas Schippers / Cincinnati sets on VOXBOX. Did you have a chance to do Schippers? I remember his music was relaxed and unhurried type.
Pensé que lo había escuchado todo, en Mahler. Y me encuentro otra joya.
David, this is another off-topic suggestion, but I am asked sometimes by younger folk I interact with about classical music and such; what I cannot answer or enthuse over, I direct to your channel as a most entertaining education and introduction to many composers and music. I wonder (perhaps you have already done so, or are planning it) if you would consider a chat about musical literary things. In other words, what sort of writings you would recommend as an introduction to music we love that would not be too heavy for a general listener (or as Ernest Newman called the "plain musical man"). Even entertaining biographies, etc., that you feel are springboards for greater appreciation and interest. I managed, for example, to get a couple of younger friends interested in Berlioz, and they in particular also enjoyed parts of his Memoirs and wonderful Evenings in the Orchestra; certainly his humor was not lost on them, and widened their understanding of the man as well as the artist. Well, sorry this is so long. But your calling attention to such worthy literary gems and books would I think be interesting stuff from someone as well-read and superbly communicating as you are here. All the best...
Honestly, they should listen, just listen, and if they find music that interests them and want to learn more, then let that guide them. There is no substitute for the music itself, and I can only speak for myself when I say that I have never found my way to any kind of music by reading about it before listening--and having listened, the reading may be enjoyable for itself, but is otherwise uneccessary to the experience of music.
@@DavesClassicalGuide Thank you, David, for your response. I guess I should have made it more plain I introduce the music first (well, to my few vs your thousands!) and then direct them to anything interesting they might read about it or the composer. You are absolutely correct that that is the way. My own musical education, such as it was, was reading program notes at the Symphony, the backs of LP's, those irritating little fold in notes in cassettes, and the booklets of CD's. Not readily available to those who now use the streaming world for their music. Why I love your channel, as have some of my more youthful friends just starting out. The experience IS the thing, and you do yeoman's work on YT for that. Just thought it would be fascinating and educational, after having discovered the music, what reading you yourself found furthered that enjoyable or profound discovery. Thanks again...