The man who mentioned how his mother salved away and that pained him was the best. Most of these men didn’t develop empathy even for their own mothers.
They don't hate them,they like the service they provided and want to maintain it. Because lets be honest, they need the life force from women. The least they could do is be decent towards the women, bur no ....they choose to be degenerates and wonder why " wOMn arenT tHiS or That" anymore.😂😂
And I truly think that hatred for their mother is just a projection of the hatred they harbor for their fathers that abandon them. Children often find it emotionally safer to hate the parent that stayed, rather than try to confront the pain of admitting that their bandit fathers walked out on them for no good reason at all. It's easier to imagine that "she" (originally the mother, but later all women) MUST have done something to deserve "his" (originally the father, but later just the bandit in question) bad behavior, rather than actually hold his father/himself accountable for his own actions and choices.
My uncle married an alcoholic who went out every night to drink, didn’t cook or clean or even take care of my cousins.The woman even left to live in another country, leaving my young cousins behind and would come to visit every now and then for a few weeks yet he loved her till the day he died. So no women can convince me that being a good women who takes care of the house will keep a man.
Nope! Majority of the older women I know can really cook and ALL of them got cheated on. One of the husband's got a whole different family on the other side of town. Cooking and cleaning are basic skills everyone needs and it won't keep any man
@@disabledbabenow let me ask a personal question... How did she manage to do it? Literally hypnotized that man? Trust me these are just for educational purposes!
they are lazy and instead of learning it and doing it they want others to do it + doing it daily/weekly is sooo much for them and cooking and cleaning|? thats BENEATH THEM reee egooooo let the LESSER not humans do it for me the tasks i dont wanna they want clean apartment and gourment meals but to lazy to do it and call women lazy xdd delulu
IKR! I'm single for 46 years and changing light bulbs and taking out trash 2x per week is easier than cooking and grocery...I'd rather take those tasks other than the cooking and cleaning.
Yup. I do mainly the repair work at our home. Sometimes it's a lot of work, but that happens like twice a year. Ofc that isn't equal to the work load that is done daily to keep our household running smoothly.
Unfortunately those males just didn’t care because those same moms didn’t want those sons to do anything on their own in order for her to feel needed. Those moms wanted their sons to be dependent upon them. But if those same moms had daughters you better believe that the daughters were expected to take care of the home and her siblings like she was a second parent.
He’s Latino. Notice the ones with the MOST to say look like us. Black. They’re pathetic. And Latinos get way more help from their men than we do. This is how I KNOW we aren’t only seen as mules in society. We are mules in our own community. Imagine being and adult and solely basing how you treat women on your level of attraction to them. This is how bm operate. Period.
@@MsTemptation Damn. This comment hit so true. Pretty much summed up my whole family dynamic growing up. Although, I will say, after a while, my mom got fed up and started demanding my brothers help with light housework like sweeping and washing dishes.
I helped my mom with cooking,sewing,cleaning,and washing clothes. Enjoyed every damn second of it because I saw how it made her happy and at peace. My she rest
It’s funny to me that women are supposed to do all the cooking and cleaning at home but they get hell when they try to be a head chef at a restaurant. Once it’s a viable career then it’s a job for men but when it’s free, that’s women’s job.
Because unfortunately many people expect us to do physically demanding work FOR FREE with no complaints, work a full time job, spend time with the kids, and all while looking hot and young and sexy and with a smile on our faces. Impossible
This. I notice that these men ALWAYS argue against strawmen. No one believes cooking or cleaning is oppressive. Women cook and clean for themselves all the time - they aren't "oppressing themselves" when they do that. What people are ACTUALLY criticizing is widespread male entitlement to female reproductive labor.
@@JustMalcolm914 😅 Its so sad to see how america is now. To think I trained when I was a teenager to fight for americans. I'm so happy I didn't go to the military. I'm leaving America this year. I dont even date american men. No point of me being here. The people are miserable 😢😮
I married in 1979. My husband was the usual overgrown "baby man" who never lifted a finger. He said to me "my father never washed a dish in his life" and I said "yeah, and your mom never worked outside the home a day in her life" . I also pointed out that my dad took care of my moms car so she had a safe vehicle to drive us kids. I had to pay to get my car serviced. I worked full time AND went to night school. I would come home 10 at night and he'd be sitting there asking "what's for supper?". I would go to the kitchen and it would be a wreck. I would have to clean before I cooked dinner. He would get his dinner at midnight. I would fall into bed, to sleep for 5 hours to get up and do it all again. I was SOOOO happy when I was FREE AT LAST! I never grieved leaving that marriage. He was a BABY MAN
My mother and I were talking to this old man who asked if there was a place where he could get his laundry done for him because he'd never done his own laundry and "didn't plan on starting today." This 75-year-old man never did his own laundry - ever. Never touched a load.
I have no problem with gender roles, I feel like they work. They have worked all throughout history, and for the most part will continue to work, but there needs to be an understanding that the gender role thing is not just for women. If a man wants a traditional woman who cooks and cleans, and takes care of children and organizes the home, and does everything that the traditional women did back in the day, then he needs to go out and be the sole provider. The work that a woman would do in the home is exactly that, work. Her contribution to the lifestyle should be acknowledged, the same way a man is whose contribution is to be the provider in the household. One of the guys said teamwork makes the dream work. This is very true. Why should the woman work 40 hours a week just like her husband but still have to come home. Take care of the house take care of her husband and take care of the kids. What I see is men wanting to do a 50-50 split on the bills but still have the benefits of a traditional wife at home. It’s not possible. I am a stay at home. Mom of three kids, I used to be an MRI tech before I stayed home. When I was working outside of the home, I would come home and do all of that as well. I did work part time, but even working part time and being the primary caretaker in the home is a lot of work. I am much more relaxed now as a full-time stay at home mom, who does all of the traditional duties of a wife. this means that my husband comes home to a clean house, well cared for children and a hot meal, waiting for him on the table, made by my own hands. I take pride and all of that. But when I was doing that and working outside of the home, I was frustrated. Now my husband comes home to a happy wife and a contented household.
These male podcasters are out of their minds. There's no guarantee that a woman cooking & cleaning for their man that the man will stay loyal. We've watched our moms, aunts, grandmas do that and still get treated like crap & cheated on. If Beyonce can get cheated on, ANY woman can get cheated on. No matter how attractive, successful, or how good we are in the bedroom or kitchen, a man can still make the choice to step out and cheat. And that says more about him than it does about us.
First man asking about roles. That man acts like he's actually building something in the home. He isn't doing anything in the home. His building, providing, and protecting is all hypothetical things that they will never do while the woman does all the heavy lifting of real things that need to be done every day.
Thank you. When I was in my early 20s I dated a guy who said "I'm never changing a diaper." Not "I'm never having kids," but "I'm never changing a diaper." That was the height of arrogance to me, assuming that you will never have to do the unpleasant tasks for YOUR own child.
@@slsilver481 if you really think about it, he wants or will want all the attention that your baby has or will need. He wants you to change his diapers.
Thousands of years of women being degraded, abused, & undervalued by men brought us to this place. A very small percentage of men are respectful enough to deserve a housewife, and women know it.
The silence after "Aren't you tired when you get home from work?" Is priceless just 👁👄👁 If they expect us to work full time AND do all the cooking and cleaning, ok, but then stop claiming to be the superior gender! Because clearly that would be women.
I learned that knowing how to cook, sew, organize a home, change the car oil, replace the windows, bring home a big paycheck, raise a baby and stay sexy will NOT necessarily make a stupid, lazy narcissistic man happy.
I hear it both from feminists and from red pill men, both sides say shit like "men/women HAVE to do this and that or else they are not good enough". It's two sides of the same coin. I'm just tired of people using gender/race/religion to divide people. Learning usefull skills, being a respectfull person and having good morals are universally good traits to have, but some people rather focus on gender/race/religion then actual character and that's sad. Men are not the enemy, women are not the enemy either. We are all human.
Exactly. You can make six figures and be a 10/10 and narcissists will still treat you like absolute trash. Nothing will please a narcissist. God forbid you stop serving them though.
Well, by the act of cheating he has already physically and emotionally left her. He just keeps her around to keep providing and serving him. Women have to take the hint and leave such men.
He’s hilarious. And he’s comparing cooking to a compliment. A compliment! Something men say so easily sometimes without even meaning what they say, which takes no effort in exchange for cooking every day and most likely he expects that to include the clean up after.
And I love how he tried to compare a man giving a verbal compliment to a woman as the same as a woman cooking for a man. I’m sorry, but giving a compliment literally takes less than 2.5 seconds. Cooking a whole dayum meal can take several hours, especially if you need to go to the grocery store & there is the cleanup afterwards! I want to see where men have to go on the hunt for a compliment…he’s got to pack up his gear, be gone for several hours or several days, and proudly brings back the elusive compliments that require so much time and effort!!! These men are trying to do any and everything to get out of being an active participant in a relationship for tasks / chores they don’t want to do!!!
That man with the glasses and complete confusion over why a woman would be tired after working a full day is actually a bit scary. He is unnecessarily aggressive over things that do not effect him at all, like the relationship dynamic between another and his wife which is pretty successful considering it lasted 20 years and still going. He is so confused and angry and so unreasonable but I bet he's on the internet selling men advice about how to be a husband. I would be shocked if he was actually married or even had a steady relationship. I don't think he is mentally well IMO.
He was “confused” and stumped because it doesn’t fit the misogynistic, redpill, manosphere narrative he’s been spewing. He got humbled multiple times, but tried to puff up his chest to make the other man seem soft and not man enough for actually being a great man, husband and father in his marriage and household. The man who’s been happily married for 20+ years literally gave all the answers to a happy marriage, how to keep a woman, a happy/good/healthy relationship with his woman and children, but manosphere mouthbreather was too knuckleheaded and set in his lies and ignorance to accept them.
He is the reason 80% of autoimmune sufferers are women. 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏿♀️ They don't know that providing and protection isn't just financial... It's physical, spiritual, emotional, intellectual. Women are not super human.
An unmarried man trying to give advice to a married man of 20 years. 🤣This is why his marriage has thrived for 20 years because he doesn't follow the trend of some "Roles" crap.
The roles - are Adult, Partner, and Parent. Just like the married guy says, one will do what needs to be done then the other will do the same as needed. Gender roles are irrelevant with keeping the family taken care of.
My mom was the trad wife hybrid for 25 years of my parents’ 50+ year marriage. She was cheated on 28 times. She prepared food for us daily, before and after work. My “dad” refused to clean anything and spent his off time tinkering with his car and watching tv while she worked, shopped, raised 3 kids and did the majority of the cooking and cleaning (me and my sister helped…my brother didn’t). My “dad” couldn’t BUY her a house, let alone build one… but he DID buy one for HIS mother. He just died a few months ago…alone… my mother who separated (but didn’t divorce him) has had the love and support of family for the past 25 years, will his health declined because he couldn’t take care of himself.
Fun fact: Statistically, men are more likely to cheat than women when they're the higher earner, when the woman is the higher earner, and when the woman is the sole breadwinner. However, they're THE MOST likely to cheat when _they_ are the sole breadwinner.
a lot of bm romanticize the struggle their single mothers endured and they expect women to endure struggle love too. bm don't want partners they want mothers to finish raising them.
Yes- they want a mommy and a maid. It’s such a turn off. They really get their thrills by seeing black women being workhorses and being mistreated. It’s sick.
YES! They think it's their job to make women miserable. Women are supposed to bend down and let a male propaganda his feet up on a woman's back is BS👹🤛🏾
I actually believe that's why he didn't answer. Not because he lacked empathy. I'm sure he knows that other man would flame him for saying "I don't work" though lmao
These type of men (like the podcaster)have completely drained all the romance, fun, and excitement out of relationships. From assigning us market value, to talking about us like we’re auto parts, and talking about relationships like it’s a business deal. No thank you. THAT is why a lot of us have lost interest in dating, let alone marrying. Also☝️we’re not jealous of girlfriends that are cooking or else we’d just be a girlfriend that cooks too lol We just especially don’t want to for these type of men.
I always wanted a man to treat me the way I believed my mom should have been treated. My mom would literally come home from working 10 hours (sometimes more,) and felt like she had to cook. My mom was legitimately SHOCKED when she came home from work on multiple occasions and found that I had cooked dinner. She was constantly tired and I felt like that was the least I could do because I loved her. It's as simple as that. R.I.P. to my beautiful mother. ❤
I am a woman and I absolutely hate cooking, always have, and always will. This is not some feminist stance, I just hate cooking. Women who work are tired, that's right. I don't want to come home after an 8+ hour work day and spend another 2 hours in the kitchen cooking and then cleaning just because I am a woman. "If you prove that you add value to a man's life." That's nice, but what value does a man add to my life if both of us work but only I have to do housework?
i was going to say this. a lot of women HATE cooking. it’s just another task that we have to do. it’s like cleaning the bathroom. men really do equate cooking with love and they’re so very wrong.
@@hardcandy71287 where r u getting this? Some may hate it and some don't but u can't say the majority of us hate cooking. Cooking is literally a life skill.
And this is why I always tell women to not let your man lose his independence. He is taught how to take care of himself/does these things as a bachelor and soon as they marry us we take those life skills away from him by not letting him use them ever again for the rest of his life..that doesn't make any sense!! Now if there are certain things that you like to do or are better at then do those things..but overall let that man contribute to the household!
@@dustrepellent8986 Exactly wanting to do something for another is an act of love that comes from being treated with respect and appreciated. So, if a man is complaining about women in their lives not doing for them only shows they most likely aren't deserving because it is common when a woman is with a man that brings value, they tend to naturally want to feed them.
As a woman who changes spark plugs, radiators, brakes... repairs appliances in the house. I HATE when men say, who's gonna change the oil, or build the house, or cut the grass like I dont pay for those services like many men do OR can do it myself. I dont date a man so he can build me a house, it's laughable.
@@seabreeze4559They literally used to hurt down lions and tigers to make clothes for their bodies. Now they can barely dress like they're over the age of 10.
"who's gonna change the oil, or build the house, or cut the grass" For an oil change I go to a mechanic. For house repairs I call a repairman. To cut grass I buy a lawnmower. These clowns pretend that an average male is a superman jack of all trades. Wrong! An average male struggles with something as simple as putting a picture on a wall.
@@Yusheesan frfr don't get me started. So many times I had to fight the cold and patriarchy because I know how to change a tire and they don't. So now I got to deal with your PRIDE and this flat a55 tire. Aaaaand now u mad for what?
If a man doesn't cook or clean on his own, I wont date him. I specifically date men who love to cook. They won't let me into the kitchen and want to cook all the meals. I love it.
@@theteleisewilliamsexperience ----- I'm one of those men that likes to cook and I'm good at making multiple types of meals but if a woman can't cook better than me then that bitch gotta kick rocks 😡
Ladies, please don't cook and don't clean and don't do laundry and don't do anything for him. If that's the reason why he's with you, then he needs to go hire a maid. If he can't feel loved without free slave labor, he's not the one. Next
If the man is the only one working and the sole provider for the household then the wife is just supposed to live for free without doing ANYTHING around the house. Oh I forgot, her giving him some pussy is supposed to be good enough and she shouldn't have to do anything else right?
If cooking is so beautiful and shows how much you provide life for someone, why dont more men cook? Probelm solved. Everyone should be cooking for each other.
That first interaction was a hoot. Homie literally malfunctioned when faced with an obvious answer. Meanwhile, he’s alone trying to call out (unsuccessfully) a man in a 20+ year marriage. What a 🤡 😂😂😂
I don’t like the one guy’s point that girls should be raised to serve boys. And I always find it funny that the “roles” they assign to women, like cooking and cleaning, are daily tasks. While the roles they assign for men are once a year or once every few months. Also when will they accept that not every woman wants to be “wifed up”? They feel entitled to women’s free labor. Also why I think society pays traditionally female jobs like teachers less.
Because men think our love for them is so strong that it magically gives us this extra boost of energy after work to cook and clean. We both drove to work, sat in traffic, worked, then we repeat with traffic but that doesn't matter because apparently we don't get tired. 🙄
My mother was a SAHM. Kept the house spotless. Homemade food every day. Also took care of me (I have disabilities and I had medical problems in childhood). Just a few years after I had surgery and my mom was able to get a job. Then my dad left. So all that work she did was for nothing.
Men want all this done for them and will still complain that a woman is not “pulling her weight” financially by “sitting on her butt at home doing nothing all day”. They do not appreciate it at all, they just think they deserve it.
My parents are happily married 44 years. My dad says if you see a mess you clean it. But he's hardcore military. So is my mom. And the military teaches people to keep things tidy as a team. Daily.
My stepdad has been in my life since I was 10 and I'm so grateful. He's a Navy vet so you already know lol I'm so proud of my mom for leaving my abusive father and upgrading to the best man I've ever met. He's the reason I'm single and happy and didn't settle for an abuser who will fill me with babies and not take care of me.
@@BrainWitchSivor have a bank account or own a home..."traditional" women of yesteryear stayed in mass because they couldn't really leave and now fast forward to today...granny's babies said they ain't cooking 💩🤣🤣🤣...get somebody's else to do it😜
The age of patriarchy is over! The family dynamic no longer exists. It is all hands on deck when in a family working as a TEAM. Ladies, being a single woman is a wonderful thing, the peace, freedom, and independence is priceless. Mothers teach your boys how to clean and cook for themselves so that they can contribute to their family.
I started my son early with maintaining his space and then added responsibility little by little. He’s 18 and has been doing his own laundry for a while now. He knows how to make several meals, how to load the dishwasher, how to make mop water, how to care do his hair (which will translate to hair care for children if he has them). I’m proud of him. He wants nothing to do with toxic masculinity and is disgusted when older men try to get him to engage in that behavior.
The more I listen to men talk, the more I miraculously turn gay. The emotional one with veins about to burst on his neck, yelling about how cooking is love, that creature screams domestic abuse to me, if he gets THAT angry over such a small thing and I wouldn't touch him with a stick!
So glad for the man in that first clip immediately correcting that boy in the glasses, not letting any of his foolishness slide. Exposed in full detail how misogynistic he was, talking about "roles" and "what does she do?" as if working full time and raising a family and maintaining the home is a task only one person does.
Here's the contradiction: they want the income that comes from a independent woman.. But expect her to simultaneously be a traditional woman, like a 50s housewife (in 2023)... While NEVER applying the same confused standards to themselves... They don't even realise that, their thoughts and words don't make any sense. Side note: thank God, there are still men who haven't lost their ever loving minds, left in the world.
50's housewifes is a myth and i'm tired of seeing that shit. women worked . who were secretaries? teachers? nurses? seamstresses? waitresses? not commonly men. the "50's housewives" were rich with BLACK nannies . that's it. it was not a thing. also google barbituate usage at this time. they werent even happy or content
THIS is the comment. They want that dual income for their use and to live comfortably but don't want to contribute to the work around the house that the woman is also paying for
Fr. Watching animal documentaries and the males create beautiful and impressive homes in hopes the females will give them the time of day. Women give love and health naturally, and it's so disturbing to see human men shit all over us.
@@heyhey439they shit on us because we spoiled them. I'm not blaming us because we were conditioned, to go against our natural instincts so thats undesirable males can get what they NEED without being or putting in effort.
I don't mind cooking & cleaning...FOR MYSELF! I only do it for my children until they're grown...THEN THEY DO IT THEMSELVES! Women were not put on this earth to be SLAVES WTF
I cooked for my sister until she was of age to learn for herself. Now she's 16 and making whole meals. Just yesterday she made Filipino spaghetti... something I never even heard of lol
I was with a man I did everything for, cook, cleaning after him and his children, take care of brand new grandson, sex several times a day, wash his clothes, encourage him, style his hair, support his dreams and he said we were only friends. Then he would tell certain people I was his woman, he would drive my automobile and leave the tank empty. Belittle me, criticize and tell me I should be taking care of him.
😂😂😂😂 every woman I saw who cooked and cleaned religiously got taken for granted and treated like crap. I even like cooking but I refuse to do it for any man unless he’s bringing me elk meat or something. I used to cook for men automatically but it was rarely appreciated.
Yes. These men don’t even love the women. They stay out of comfort but really be wanting the chick that doesn’t cook and clean or make life easier for him. Women need to understand that men will use you for resources. That’s it.
I interact with a lot of men in their late 60s and 70s. Some are divorce and others are widowers. And in the last years they had grown more and more desperate as it's getting really hard to find a partner. Why? most women in their mid 50 up are either divorced or widows too and in their own words "being single is happiness" "I had done all that housewife shit for decades, not anymore"... This young men are up for a surprise. Unless you want to spend the rest of your days alone, respect your women.
@rishayraj4125 You would have given everything only after treating her like a slave first ??? LOL You’d have let her work just one full time job, while still taking care of the house, kids etc …SMH
You can be a woman of God, submissive, and he’ll still go out there and fool with someone else. Being single is peaceful. I tell God all the time, thank you for sustaining me financially and mentally because I can’t be tied to a deplorable man.
Amen to that!!!! And that's why I'm GLAD that I chose to remain single, and never had children!!! 57, retired and doing whatever the hell I want to do without worrying about catering to anyone else, especially a self centered and narcissistic man!!! I'm good!!! F all men at this point!!!
When I work from home I cook and clean on my breaks. I am single and have to get my grown son out of bed to clean and cook and get attitude. I tell him real quick I’m not your fn maid, get your a** up and be productive. No woman wants a crusty, dusty, lazy man!
Lady, that's not a good sign. You better get him out of your house, or do something because that doesn't sound like someone that's going to be any type of productive to mother Nature or society
I love how smart the second guy is. He's in a 20+ year marriage because him and his partner respect each other and cater to each other's needs. The other guy is too focused on rules and roles. If your partner is in the hospital, now what? Do you wait for everything to get done the second they recover? If you don't know how to do the things your partner does, you're going to struggle when they can't do it.
I'm 57 and I'm GLAD that I never got married or had children, because everything that I would do in that position would be totally for HIS benefit and enjoyment, and I don't want to end up being totally unhappy, miserable and my mental health would be in total shambles!!! I'm also glad that I was raised to take care of myself before I would take care of anybody else, and that's why I'm GLAD that I'm living my life for ME MYSELF AND I ONLY!!! Simply put, MEN AIN'T SHIT!!! I said what I said and I'm sticking to it!!!
He had the look of, no one’s disrespecting my daughter because taught her self-worth. Good job Dad! My dad is the same way 😂 and he was born in the 1950s.
You women really think that okay let's go to war women should be drafted fix your own car if you need a man's help do it yourself if you need a man to fix something in the house do it yourself if you have a problem being a housewife go 50/50 I need you to pay half of the rent I need you to pay half an electricity bill I need you to pay half of everything we are going 50/50 in this house if you don't want that go into the kitchen cook dinner take care of the children take care of the house and I'll pay all the bills what's the problem 50/50 or housewife
Dude who said "You girls need to go back in the kitchen" in one breath and then who told you cooking is some oppressive thing in the next?!?!?!? Sir, you just did. 😅😂😅😂 If it's not for oppressive reasons, why must we "go back" in the kitchen? You are seeing in real time how if we are not FORCED to cook, we don't wanna. That is literally the point you are making. And then you're confused that we are calling it oppressive? If it's not, why don't YOU do it???? Is it because it takes a lot of work, time and effort and you don't want to either? But somehow women doing crap they don't like is the natural order of things but men don't have the expectation at all and it's not misogyny? Dude needs to smell what he's shoveling.
Men: I want a traditional woman who will clean the house, cook the food, do the dishes, fold the laudry, style my hair, never talk back, doesn't go out with friends every week, always look good for me, stays in shape, care for the kids, and boost my ego on the daily but she can't be "lazy" and also needs to work a full time job because I don't want no gold digger😡! Women: ok and what will you bring into this relationship in return? Men: I'll go half on rent Women: No thank you. Im not looking for a roommate Men: SeE this WhY YoU gOnNA DiE alone😡! Women: Que "golden girls theme song"😌😏
If men want their women to cook 3 meals a day and clean up after their mess then he needs to be the sole provider. Meaning the woman should not be working a full time. And a lot of these men dont make enough to provide for a family.
@@beyondallreason-du4pq Males have been able to demand this shit in times past because we were held hostage. We were forced to be bang maids and baby carriages. Ladies, only get into a relationship with a man who sees you as an equal. They are super pissed off that we are no longer their sex slaves, domestic servants, and breeding cattle. They got the idea that they're the sun and we orbit around them. When we walk away, and withdraw our attention, affection, domestic labor, and childbearing capacity, they get really angry. But we belong to ourselves, not to them. And they need to understand that they don't own us.
If a guy was making 200K a year, I'd be bending over backward for him. Guys barely hitting 30K a year and wants you to work a full time job, clean, cook, and raise the kids, pay the bills AND fix the house. Sorry mfers.
I love how these dudes demand that women go to work and be traditional housewives and cook and clean for them constantly while most of them don't know how to repair anything in the house or on the car and don't do any yard work or grill. Traditional gender roles only go one way for these podcast boys.
I am an excellent cook and have had several catering businesses over my lifetime. However, when I was dating, I got to the point where I wouldn't even let a man I was dating know how talented I was in the kitchen because they had an expectation that cooking was my responsibility because I was a woman, and that I should be happy to cook and clean for them. Over they years I learned that cooking for a man, as well as utilizing the many other skills I possessed, was not appreciated, and certainly not matched by any similar contributions (traditional or not) that a man brought into my life. Most men will watch a woman work outside the home, come home and work her tongue out inside the home, and will show little or no appreciation for the effort. Cooking and cleaning for a man is not a privilege, it is a thankless burden and I'm glad more women are just saying no to this form of modern day slavery.
I’m generation X. When I was coming into the time of dating and looking to be married I wanted to be a traditional wife because I really wanted to be home to raise my own children and create a nurturing environment. However the majority of the men I would date would express wanting a woman who worked and contributed a significant amount to obtaining a certain lifestyle. When I asked about how they felt about their future children being in a daycare with strangers 9-13 hours a day they saw nothing wrong with it. It blew my mind. They prioritized nice cars and a big home over instilling your own values into your children and making sure they are safe and well loved. Then the man I met who said he was supportive of traditional roles, became emotionally and financially abusive when I was pregnant with our child. Overall it’s crazy to me that men nowadays are acting like they want traditional roles when they aren’t trying to be traditional men. It’s not traditional if the woman is working full time outside the home. It’s a hybrid that allows men to exploit women for free labor. It’s predatory. In hindsight I would never fully rely on a man for my financial stability. At any moment that he decides to switch up you and your children can be in for a rough time. I’d advise any woman who values a traditional role to at least have a passive stream of income and her own assets before marriage. That way you will not be so vulnerable if your partner doesn’t live up to his end of the agreement.
That was always the problem for women in traditional roles. Most women also didn't have passive incomes, so they became entirely dependent on their husband for money and anything else she needed or wanted and she better not want much! If he was a cruel guy, you had a crap life. That's why unless you absolutely have to, it's not wise to depend on someone else for your income or much else either honestly.
I agree that a lot of men today are cherrypicking part of traditional and modern roles - she should pay 50% of the bills and yet still do 100% of the cooking, household and childcare. Which is even worse than the purely traditional role, because at least they do not have to pay any bills at all, he provides. I thought my ex was a modern man, because he loved successful women and her being educated and intelligent and successful was important to him. Unfortunately, it turned out he wanted this kind of successful good looking woman to also pay 50% or more of the bills. And she has to act generally submissive to him, also she needs to take care of contraception, do all kinds of help for him,… It was shocking. Just even more expectations placed on women without taking away any old ones. Needless to say he has trouble finding beautiful successful women who want to fill this role
I agree that a lot of men today are cherrypicking part of traditional and modern roles - she should pay 50% of the bills and yet still do 100% of the cooking, household and childcare. Which is even worse than the purely traditional role, because at least they do not have to pay any bills at all, he provides. I thought my ex was a modern man, because he loved successful women and her being educated and intelligent and successful was important to him. Unfortunately, it turned out he wanted this kind of successful good looking woman to also pay 50% or more of the bills. And she has to act generally submissive to him, also she needs to take care of contraception, do all kinds of help for him,… It was shocking. Just even more expectations placed on women without taking away any old ones. Needless to say he has trouble finding beautiful successful women who want to fill this role
@@Marivi247 It’s a scam. These men want beautiful slaves. Technology needs to hurry up with the humanoid robots so the men can order exactly what they want.
your experience has happened to tons of women in the past, and is exactly why society is encouraging women to pursue some kind of career before marriage/childbearing. Many men aren't reliable.
That opening conversation is HILARIOUS. Especially at 2:10 - "If there's something that needs to be built, who builds it?" Dude's seriously gonna kick his feet up while his wife does literally everything, "I'm just gonna sit right here babe in case we need to build a toolshed or whatever."
I’ve been married for six year. We have one toddler. My husband cooks and cleans just like me. It’s not that hard to understand. We are a family and got each others back!!
It cracked me up when fratboy was ranting about how women needed to stop saying cooking is oppressive. When he asked, “what? You’re gonna let your 6yo starve? Make them cook a hotpocket in the microwave because you’re not cooking? You’re gonna let your man starve?” And i answered yes to all of those questions. 💁🏾♀️😂 Why? Because if you’re a grown man and can’t cook for yourself, then you aren’t fit to be a husband, boyfriend nor a parent. Because what parent doesn’t atleast know how to cook for themselves? Or atleast teach their children to be self sufficient when they don’t have any adults around? Like if a child can learn to wipe their own behinds when they’re potty trained by the age of 2, what makes them think a kid couldn’t learn the basics of how to feed themselves at age 6? If my child can’t even do the basics before they reach 10yo, then i feel like i’m not doing my job as a parent to my kid(s). I be seeing kids under the age of 10 in asian, indian and african countries already know how to cook food, clean while doing their homework, play, recreational activities. Meanwhile we have manchildren in the states whining about women not cooking and cleaning because they don’t get to be lazy adults and sit on their @$$es all day. 🤦🏾♀️ just embarrassing. I learned how to atleast do chores, cook for myself and take care of myself (do my hair, bathe, get up for school, etc..) at age 4yo. So how are these males claiming to be grown men and still complaining about things not being done by a woman that they should’ve learned to do for themselves atleast before they became a legal adult? 🤦🏾♀️
@TheJmustang07 I'm glad someone else agrees =/ I definitely believe in teaching children to make choices on their own at that age. Such as what fruit to eat. Orange or an apple? And I've seen videos of women who have small little mini fridges and the child can do very, very, very minimal snack/ meal preparation.
As someone who actually loves cooking and don't mind cooking for others, it would still feel oppressive if my bf feels entitled to my cooking. Anyone cooking for someone else is a gift, and cannot be forced. Incidentally one of the most romantic activities for me is to cook with my bf. Great way to chat and bond over a shared activity and of course we both get a delicious meal at the end.
I love cooking and cleaning for my family. It is my way of showing love. I love to care for my home because I have been homeless and I do not take it for granted. However, when I am outta commission on my full moon time, cramping and bleeding and needing help, nobody steps up. Also, a lot of people don't care if you cook and clean for them. They don't see it as an act of love. Until you stop.
@@beautyforashes1948 For real. She is painting this fairytale life, then says they don't care. I could never. They would starve before I lift a finger.
Look, my parents got married in 1956. Mom stayed at home while Dad worked (because 7 kids). But guess what ? Dad came straight home from work, rolled up his sleeves and began pitching in on household duties. He was an active, present, loving husband and father who had NO issues with cooking, cleaning, laundry and childcare. They were a true TEAM in every sense. And guess what too ? My brothers did learn how to do all the inside-the-house work (cooking,cleaning, laundry, dishes, etc.) We daughters did learn how to mow, weed trim, rake leaves, simple car maintenance, use power tools, etc. The only limitations were when sheer physical strength was a major factor, and even then we figured out workarounds so we could accomplish those tasks. With over 90% of chores, there were no “boy/man chores” and “girl/woman chores” - whoever had the availability was called upon. In my last relationship, I did all the “Wifey” housekeeping and cooking… AND most everything else outdoors too (except the mowing because HE wouldn’t let me use his precious brand-new Zero Turn mower 🙄) - but I did all the weed trimming, edging, landscaping, painted the *entire* pool deck, lopping and dragging branches to the burn pile, washing the vehicles,etc etc etc. And he STILL CHEATED and dumped me for another woman (who had cheated on and dumped him 18 years prior). These Manosphere goofuses need to stop pretending they’ll treat a “Wifey” type of woman with any more respect than they treat “Non-Wifey” types. It doesn’t matter *what* we do or don’t do, ManosphereDudes *will* denigrate and despise us because they don’t actually see us as co-equal human beings.
My husband does most of the cooking because I’m a bad cook 😂😂😂😂 he never complains and oh he pays all the bills. When I try to help him in the kitchen he makes me snack and put on my favorite show 🍱 and tell me to go relax he got it. We didn’t get married because of cooking we got married because we love each other and wants share our lives together.
Wow... he had zero understanding or compassion for women being tired. I think lots of men see women as servant robots. He has a very stinky attitude that does not inspire the energy to provide a homecooked meal for. It's a huge turn off when men are oblivious to their abuse and utter laziness. There would be zero motivation to feed a person who is covertly abusive by treating someone as a robot. How is he feeding himself without a woman cooking? Does he apply the same standards onto himself?
That man in the first part of the video is married for 20 years, and has multiple children. When I listen to him it makes sense. It is clear how he managed that. I wish him and his family good life.
Currently watching this video. I am on the Nate Garner part of it and I want to point something out. He asks who told women that cooking was oppressive. Nobody told me. I knew it when I was forced to learn to cook at age 8, making my first Thanksgiving turkey. I was the youngest person in my house and I cooked at least 1 meal a day until I was 15. Most weekends, I was cooking every meal. I "had" to learn to cook because I "was the girl" and was going to have to cook for my own family one day. I also had to serve my father first (literally make his plate, take it to him in the living room with salt & pepper, and wait until he had it seasoned to his liking) then everyone else could eat, but usually ended up with me eating last. It was a form of abuse to me growing up and I hate cooking for the most part as an adult.
@@fatemad4012 sitting on her butt mostly. She would tell me instructions sometimes. It was mostly my dad that made me cook. My mom refused to step in though.
If these men require a women's income to sustain THEIR lifestyle then these same men need to pay for housekeepers and a personal chef or meal-delivery service. I can never understand women working full-time jobs AND still expected to cook and clean. Why are women muling in 2023???
This. I can cook and I can cook pretty well but ain't no man gonna know that for a good long time, if ever, because I'm not letting those expectations run wild
I’ve been cooking since I was 14 but I’ve stopped since and I’m in the same place, no one knows I can cook. I’ve grown to really hate cooking after a few relationships where I became people’s personal restaurant but without the pay 😂
😂 these men are hilarious! These men trying to trick women into performing basic life skills for them. Like if you’re not capable of feeding yourself as an adult… that’s just lame. And do it or you’ll leave us? Who wants a guy who can’t feed themselves?
Or pay their own bills. These dude’s want 50/50 relationships because without the woman’s income they wouldn’t be able to move out of their parents basement.
There is an Indian movie in my language- 'The Great Indian Kitchen'. Anytime a guy saying cooking isn't 'oppressive', he should be forced to watch it. As if him frying a sunny side up once in a blue moon to woo a woman, is the same feeding a grown baby everyday. If a man is so incompetent that he'll starve if his wife doesn't cook for him, he is definitely not a reliable partner. If he can't feed himself, what will happen if his partner has an illness? What will happen to their kids? Do these guys not realise they are advertising to the world that they are overgrown, unreliable babies who are just looking for a free parent
Yess I love that movie so much ❤ there even is a scene where the fl who's stuck in this awful marriage, talks to her friend, who's married happily to a husband who loves her and asks her what she's in the mood to eat since he seems to love cooking for her, obviously showing what a good working marriage in modern times look like. Kind of wanting to give a stark contrast with fl who's in a dark and suffocating room while her friend is sitting covered in glowing sunlight during the call.
I'm also convinced these men hated their own mothers.
The man who mentioned how his mother salved away and that pained him was the best. Most of these men didn’t develop empathy even for their own mothers.
Exactly. They saw their mother’s and grandmother’s be pick me’s who got treated like trash and they want to keep that tradition going.
They don't hate them,they like the service they provided and want to maintain it. Because lets be honest, they need the life force from women. The least they could do is be decent towards the women, bur no ....they choose to be degenerates and wonder why " wOMn arenT tHiS or That" anymore.😂😂
And I truly think that hatred for their mother is just a projection of the hatred they harbor for their fathers that abandon them. Children often find it emotionally safer to hate the parent that stayed, rather than try to confront the pain of admitting that their bandit fathers walked out on them for no good reason at all. It's easier to imagine that "she" (originally the mother, but later all women) MUST have done something to deserve "his" (originally the father, but later just the bandit in question) bad behavior, rather than actually hold his father/himself accountable for his own actions and choices.
They hate that they were born
Ladies please know that cooking & cleaning will not "keep a man" 🙄
My uncle married an alcoholic who went out every night to drink, didn’t cook or clean or even take care of my cousins.The woman even left to live in another country, leaving my young cousins behind and would come to visit every now and then for a few weeks yet he loved her till the day he died.
So no women can convince me that being a good women who takes care of the house will keep a man.
Nope! Majority of the older women I know can really cook and ALL of them got cheated on. One of the husband's got a whole different family on the other side of town. Cooking and cleaning are basic skills everyone needs and it won't keep any man
@@disabledbabenow let me ask a personal question... How did she manage to do it? Literally hypnotized that man? Trust me these are just for educational purposes!
I believe men do love b**ches... lmao
Know how they say that we love bad boys? And also how everything they say is projection? 🤭
Why are they so obsessed with cooking and cleaning??! Basic adult functions. Its really pathetic.
they are lazy and instead of learning it and doing it they want others to do it + doing it daily/weekly is sooo much for them
and cooking and cleaning|? thats BENEATH THEM reee
egooooo
let the LESSER not humans do it for me the tasks i dont wanna
they want clean apartment and gourment meals but to lazy to do it
and call women lazy xdd delulu
Because they want someone to take care of them.
🤯It does not make any sense.
They have to convince women to do it, because they've decided it's their birthright to NOT do it.
They want mommy-bangmaids for free. A.k.a a slave.
I love how men equate changing a light bulb every 2 years to a woman cooking an cleaning and taking care of the kids for multiple hours every day.
100% Truth.
IKR! I'm single for 46 years and changing light bulbs and taking out trash 2x per week is easier than cooking and grocery...I'd rather take those tasks other than the cooking and cleaning.
I just love how those idiots try to manipulate women into cooking 😂😂😂
Yup. I do mainly the repair work at our home. Sometimes it's a lot of work, but that happens like twice a year. Ofc that isn't equal to the work load that is done daily to keep our household running smoothly.
Or do the outdoor stuff, like mowing the lawn. I'll trade mowing the lawn once every week or two weeks over daily chores all year long.
I love the guy who said "if you saw your mom work all day and shes tired and that shit doesnt hurt you, theres something wrong with you". Its true
Unfortunately those males just didn’t care because those same moms didn’t want those sons to do anything on their own in order for her to feel needed.
Those moms wanted their sons to be dependent upon them.
But if those same moms had daughters you better believe that the daughters were expected to take care of the home and her siblings like she was a second parent.
He’s Latino. Notice the ones with the MOST to say look like us. Black. They’re pathetic. And Latinos get way more help from their men than we do. This is how I KNOW we aren’t only seen as mules in society. We are mules in our own community. Imagine being and adult and solely basing how you treat women on your level of attraction to them. This is how bm operate. Period.
@@MsTemptation Damn. This comment hit so true. Pretty much summed up my whole family dynamic growing up. Although, I will say, after a while, my mom got fed up and started demanding my brothers help with light housework like sweeping and washing dishes.
@@MsTemptationoppressed turn around and opress others. That's why we try to stop the cycle.
I helped my mom with cooking,sewing,cleaning,and washing clothes. Enjoyed every damn second of it because I saw how it made her happy and at peace. My she rest
Funny how a bitter single man is trying to teach a man that has been happily married for 20 years how marriage is supposed to work
Isn't it crazy?
Right😂 and he got so triggered even, what a mess of a man
Rightttt I swear I thought the same
Seriously! “You don’t have roles in a marriage?!” Sir, *you literally do not even have a marriage what does that tell you*
😂this sour lemon was only short of telling this wonderful man that he is part of the problem!
It’s funny to me that women are supposed to do all the cooking and cleaning at home but they get hell when they try to be a head chef at a restaurant. Once it’s a viable career then it’s a job for men but when it’s free, that’s women’s job.
Because unfortunately many people expect us to do physically demanding work FOR FREE with no complaints, work a full time job, spend time with the kids, and all while looking hot and young and sexy and with a smile on our faces. Impossible
They feel entitled to free labour. Every man with his own plantation. Historically women didn't even pay taxes so we're WORSE off.
This ISH right here!
I'm a female chef and couldn't agree more lol
Just like making clothes, baking, or cutting hair. Free or low end is for women, but when it's prestigious and lucrative it's men's territory😠
Cooking isn’t oppressive and no one says it is. What is oppressive is being expected to do a bunch of unpaid labor when we work paying jobs as well.
THIS PART
This. I notice that these men ALWAYS argue against strawmen. No one believes cooking or cleaning is oppressive. Women cook and clean for themselves all the time - they aren't "oppressing themselves" when they do that. What people are ACTUALLY criticizing is widespread male entitlement to female reproductive labor.
Did you not just hear that dude say it is
If you had a good high value man you wouldn't need to work. You get with chumps apparently
@@toby43078The avg man in America makes $57K a year and this is BEFORE taxes. What high value men are you talkin about?
AND THIS IS WHY SO MANY OF US WOMEN ARE CHOOSING TO BE SINGLE!
If I gotta do it all on my own, WTF do I need you for? 🤔
Right what do men bring to the table? They don't pay bills, they don't cook, they don't clean...
Exactly!
Exactly 💯
That's exactly how men feel😂
@@JustMalcolm914 😅 Its so sad to see how america is now. To think I trained when I was a teenager to fight for americans. I'm so happy I didn't go to the military. I'm leaving America this year. I dont even date american men. No point of me being here. The people are miserable 😢😮
I married in 1979. My husband was the usual overgrown "baby man" who never lifted a finger. He said to me "my father never washed a dish in his life" and I said "yeah, and your mom never worked outside the home a day in her life" . I also pointed out that my dad took care of my moms car so she had a safe vehicle to drive us kids. I had to pay to get my car serviced. I worked full time AND went to night school. I would come home 10 at night and he'd be sitting there asking "what's for supper?". I would go to the kitchen and it would be a wreck. I would have to clean before I cooked dinner. He would get his dinner at midnight. I would fall into bed, to sleep for 5 hours to get up and do it all again. I was SOOOO happy when I was FREE AT LAST! I never grieved leaving that marriage. He was a BABY MAN
My mother and I were talking to this old man who asked if there was a place where he could get his laundry done for him because he'd never done his own laundry and "didn't plan on starting today." This 75-year-old man never did his own laundry - ever. Never touched a load.
This
I have no problem with gender roles, I feel like they work. They have worked all throughout history, and for the most part will continue to work, but there needs to be an understanding that the gender role thing is not just for women. If a man wants a traditional woman who cooks and cleans, and takes care of children and organizes the home, and does everything that the traditional women did back in the day, then he needs to go out and be the sole provider. The work that a woman would do in the home is exactly that, work. Her contribution to the lifestyle should be acknowledged, the same way a man is whose contribution is to be the provider in the household. One of the guys said teamwork makes the dream work. This is very true. Why should the woman work 40 hours a week just like her husband but still have to come home. Take care of the house take care of her husband and take care of the kids. What I see is men wanting to do a 50-50 split on the bills but still have the benefits of a traditional wife at home. It’s not possible. I am a stay at home. Mom of three kids, I used to be an MRI tech before I stayed home. When I was working outside of the home, I would come home and do all of that as well. I did work part time, but even working part time and being the primary caretaker in the home is a lot of work. I am much more relaxed now as a full-time stay at home mom, who does all of the traditional duties of a wife. this means that my husband comes home to a clean house, well cared for children and a hot meal, waiting for him on the table, made by my own hands. I take pride and all of that. But when I was doing that and working outside of the home, I was frustrated. Now my husband comes home to a happy wife and a contented household.
@@jillagnello5202 girl shut up, nobody cares lol
Gurl you better than me cuz I would’ve went to bed
He could not comprehend that they are a team not a slave/master. 😂
😂😂his brain just could not compute it 😂
That’s the whole issue. And the other guy was right on the money. His whole attitude is rooted in white male patriarchal ideas.
He was actually angry that he helps his wife around the house
WHITE male patriarchy??... have you not heard of the arab supremacist religion popular in Africa called Islam? Holy shirt the racism is racing
I wouldn't say that's exclusively white because there are a lot of men (all races) who feel that way and it's truly sad. @@PaperMario64
These male podcasters are out of their minds. There's no guarantee that a woman cooking & cleaning for their man that the man will stay loyal. We've watched our moms, aunts, grandmas do that and still get treated like crap & cheated on. If Beyonce can get cheated on, ANY woman can get cheated on. No matter how attractive, successful, or how good we are in the bedroom or kitchen, a man can still make the choice to step out and cheat. And that says more about him than it does about us.
First man asking about roles. That man acts like he's actually building something in the home. He isn't doing anything in the home. His building, providing, and protecting is all hypothetical things that they will never do while the woman does all the heavy lifting of real things that need to be done every day.
my mom was a fantastic homemaker. still got cheated on. it absolutely does not guarantee a man’s loyalty whatsoever.
Amen!
women will be cooking and cleaning while hes in the other room jagging off to corn.
@@ExoticalsUnited 🤯 yes! we’re bending over backwards while he’s lusting over other women who AREN’T cooking for him.
As a man I can tell women, never be with a man who can't cook, clean or take care of a baby or a dog, that man is there to use you like his mother.
No woman with an ounce of common sense and self respect will have sex with a grown baby
Thank you. When I was in my early 20s I dated a guy who said "I'm never changing a diaper." Not "I'm never having kids," but "I'm never changing a diaper." That was the height of arrogance to me, assuming that you will never have to do the unpleasant tasks for YOUR own child.
@@slsilver481 precisely, such a man abandons his family in the hard times.
im a fellow man and agree! also cooking is actually fun
@@slsilver481 if you really think about it, he wants or will want all the attention that your baby has or will need. He wants you to change his diapers.
Thousands of years of women being degraded, abused, & undervalued by men brought us to this place. A very small percentage of men are respectful enough to deserve a housewife, and women know it.
YUP!
The silence after "Aren't you tired when you get home from work?" Is priceless
just 👁👄👁
If they expect us to work full time AND do all the cooking and cleaning, ok, but then stop claiming to be the superior gender! Because clearly that would be women.
I learned that knowing how to cook, sew, organize a home, change the car oil, replace the windows, bring home a big paycheck, raise a baby and stay sexy will NOT necessarily make a stupid, lazy narcissistic man happy.
Def not...most men love to destroy... that is what they do best
I hear it both from feminists and from red pill men, both sides say shit like "men/women HAVE to do this and that or else they are not good enough". It's two sides of the same coin. I'm just tired of people using gender/race/religion to divide people. Learning usefull skills, being a respectfull person and having good morals are universally good traits to have, but some people rather focus on gender/race/religion then actual character and that's sad. Men are not the enemy, women are not the enemy either. We are all human.
Exactly. You can make six figures and be a 10/10 and narcissists will still treat you like absolute trash. Nothing will please a narcissist. God forbid you stop serving them though.
FaCTs 💯
An too many males today prefer tasteless fast food and junk food over healthy well cooked meals. Sad to say but true.
This
The rate of lonely men is set to rise just by going off this foolishness
Trulyyyyy 🤣
This and the refusal to comprehend and CHANGE = lonely men with ridiculous expectations.
@@blakec.aarens4716
Exactly! Lonely men with ridiculous expectations.
There will be a whole lot more lonely dudes in the future. We women have each other's backs. But they're going to be alone.
WINTER IS COMING FOR THESE MALES (in my Game of Thrones voice)
He's right. A man will not leave a good woman, but he sure as hell will cheat on her.
💯
Cheat real bad
Abuse and abuse and did I mention abuse them aswel
Cheap, degrade and ab*se
Well, by the act of cheating he has already physically and emotionally left her. He just keeps her around to keep providing and serving him. Women have to take the hint and leave such men.
Today's men expect you to clean and cook like a wife,but they're vehemently against becoming your husband.
If cooking and cleaning is "wife material" then paying all the bills is "husband material".
@@chrzig554 You're right it is. I never said all women played fair. A lot of men do want husband privilege without being her husband.
Well , you are an adult
@alexandramccain7482 You will be cooking and cleaning for someone. You live with when you have to do these things anyway it's privilege?
@JustMalcolm914 Idiot- you are an adult ? Can you not cook and clean for yourself ?
Clown. Every comment you have on here makes zero sense
I cooked, cleaned, did laundry, folded the damn laundry, packed lunches etc & nothing made him value or respect me
4:13 "cooking is the most beautiful thing you could do for somebody", okay then go cook for your girlfriend. Return that energy
Exactly 😅
😂😂😂😂I laughed out loud and completed that sentence for him by “when it’s woman doing it.” “Alpha males” are hilarious.
He’s hilarious. And he’s comparing cooking to a compliment. A compliment! Something men say so easily sometimes without even meaning what they say, which takes no effort in exchange for cooking every day and most likely he expects that to include the clean up after.
He basically said that males require a Woman’s labor but Women are supposed to be satisfied w/ words.😒🙄🖕🏾
And I love how he tried to compare a man giving a verbal compliment to a woman as the same as a woman cooking for a man. I’m sorry, but giving a compliment literally takes less than 2.5 seconds. Cooking a whole dayum meal can take several hours, especially if you need to go to the grocery store & there is the cleanup afterwards! I want to see where men have to go on the hunt for a compliment…he’s got to pack up his gear, be gone for several hours or several days, and proudly brings back the elusive compliments that require so much time and effort!!! These men are trying to do any and everything to get out of being an active participant in a relationship for tasks / chores they don’t want to do!!!
"Cook and clean your damn self" - that's right little lady😆
😂😂
😂 😂 😂
😂😂😂😂That dad is raising a real feminist.
These kids are going to be alright!
Her “this guy” at the end sent me.
That man with the glasses and complete confusion over why a woman would be tired after working a full day is actually a bit scary. He is unnecessarily aggressive over things that do not effect him at all, like the relationship dynamic between another and his wife which is pretty successful considering it lasted 20 years and still going. He is so confused and angry and so unreasonable but I bet he's on the internet selling men advice about how to be a husband. I would be shocked if he was actually married or even had a steady relationship. I don't think he is mentally well IMO.
He was “confused” and stumped because it doesn’t fit the misogynistic, redpill, manosphere narrative he’s been spewing. He got humbled multiple times, but tried to puff up his chest to make the other man seem soft and not man enough for actually being a great man, husband and father in his marriage and household. The man who’s been happily married for 20+ years literally gave all the answers to a happy marriage, how to keep a woman, a happy/good/healthy relationship with his woman and children, but manosphere mouthbreather was too knuckleheaded and set in his lies and ignorance to accept them.
he's a triggered broflake having a mantrum
That BOY is crazy 😂
Men like him do not need a woman.
He is the reason 80% of autoimmune sufferers are women. 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏿♀️
They don't know that providing and protection isn't just financial... It's physical, spiritual, emotional, intellectual.
Women are not super human.
An unmarried man trying to give advice to a married man of 20 years. 🤣This is why his marriage has thrived for 20 years because he doesn't follow the trend of some "Roles" crap.
The roles - are Adult, Partner, and Parent. Just like the married guy says, one will do what needs to be done then the other will do the same as needed. Gender roles are irrelevant with keeping the family taken care of.
My mom was the trad wife hybrid for 25 years of my parents’ 50+ year marriage. She was cheated on 28 times. She prepared food for us daily, before and after work. My “dad” refused to clean anything and spent his off time tinkering with his car and watching tv while she worked, shopped, raised 3 kids and did the majority of the cooking and cleaning (me and my sister helped…my brother didn’t). My “dad” couldn’t BUY her a house, let alone build one… but he DID buy one for HIS mother. He just died a few months ago…alone… my mother who separated (but didn’t divorce him) has had the love and support of family for the past 25 years, will his health declined because he couldn’t take care of himself.
Fun fact: Statistically, men are more likely to cheat than women when they're the higher earner, when the woman is the higher earner, and when the woman is the sole breadwinner. However, they're THE MOST likely to cheat when _they_ are the sole breadwinner.
a lot of bm romanticize the struggle their single mothers endured and they expect women to endure struggle love too. bm don't want partners they want mothers to finish raising them.
Some watched their mother being enslaved by their father and demand the same from their wives.
Yes- they want a mommy and a maid. It’s such a turn off. They really get their thrills by seeing black women being workhorses and being mistreated. It’s sick.
YES! They think it's their job to make women miserable. Women are supposed to bend down and let a male propaganda his feet up on a woman's back is BS👹🤛🏾
A quote from Julia Roberts:"it's NOT my job to retrain badly raised men! Do you want a partner or a project?" 💯
Black women aren’t raising their sons that’s the point
Cooking for your man definitely gives you power in the relationship. How else are you gonna poison the right plate when the time comes. 😂😂
Make it untraceable, tho. 🤫😉
Ahahahahaha!!! Best comment ever.
Beat me to it!
@meiimacca4054 Great Minds!!! I mean the vows are literally until DEATH due us apart!! 🤣😂
lmao
The lack of answer after the "aren't you tired after a day's work?" can only be explained by dude being jobless living in his mom's basement
I actually believe that's why he didn't answer. Not because he lacked empathy. I'm sure he knows that other man would flame him for saying "I don't work" though lmao
@@CyberMachine Absolutely. Not so macho alpha provider when asked to perform.
😅😅😅😅😅
😂😂
These type of men (like the podcaster)have completely drained all the romance, fun, and excitement out of relationships. From assigning us market value, to talking about us like we’re auto parts, and talking about relationships like it’s a business deal. No thank you. THAT is why a lot of us have lost interest in dating, let alone marrying. Also☝️we’re not jealous of girlfriends that are cooking or else we’d just be a girlfriend that cooks too lol We just especially don’t want to for these type of men.
Yep
I always wanted a man to treat me the way I believed my mom should have been treated. My mom would literally come home from working 10 hours (sometimes more,) and felt like she had to cook. My mom was legitimately SHOCKED when she came home from work on multiple occasions and found that I had cooked dinner. She was constantly tired and I felt like that was the least I could do because I loved her. It's as simple as that. R.I.P. to my beautiful mother. ❤
I am a woman and I absolutely hate cooking, always have, and always will. This is not some feminist stance, I just hate cooking. Women who work are tired, that's right. I don't want to come home after an 8+ hour work day and spend another 2 hours in the kitchen cooking and then cleaning just because I am a woman. "If you prove that you add value to a man's life." That's nice, but what value does a man add to my life if both of us work but only I have to do housework?
i was going to say this. a lot of women HATE cooking. it’s just another task that we have to do. it’s like cleaning the bathroom. men really do equate cooking with love and they’re so very wrong.
@@hardcandy71287 where r u getting this? Some may hate it and some don't but u can't say the majority of us hate cooking. Cooking is literally a life skill.
@@hardcandy71287They’re not wrong. The one’s complaining just don’t deserve it.
And this is why I always tell women to not let your man lose his independence. He is taught how to take care of himself/does these things as a bachelor and soon as they marry us we take those life skills away from him by not letting him use them ever again for the rest of his life..that doesn't make any sense!! Now if there are certain things that you like to do or are better at then do those things..but overall let that man contribute to the household!
@@dustrepellent8986 Exactly wanting to do something for another is an act of love that comes from being treated with respect and appreciated. So, if a man is complaining about women in their lives not doing for them only shows they most likely aren't deserving because it is common when a woman is with a man that brings value, they tend to naturally want to feed them.
As a woman who changes spark plugs, radiators, brakes... repairs appliances in the house. I HATE when men say, who's gonna change the oil, or build the house, or cut the grass like I dont pay for those services like many men do OR can do it myself. I dont date a man so he can build me a house, it's laughable.
victorian men LITERALLY used to build a house. They can't even do THAT.
@@seabreeze4559They literally used to hurt down lions and tigers to make clothes for their bodies. Now they can barely dress like they're over the age of 10.
"who's gonna change the oil, or build the house, or cut the grass" For an oil change I go to a mechanic. For house repairs I call a repairman. To cut grass I buy a lawnmower. These clowns pretend that an average male is a superman jack of all trades. Wrong! An average male struggles with something as simple as putting a picture on a wall.
@@Yusheesan frfr don't get me started. So many times I had to fight the cold and patriarchy because I know how to change a tire and they don't. So now I got to deal with your PRIDE and this flat a55 tire. Aaaaand now u mad for what?
@@AuntieThree He is mad because you can do his job enabling you to function without a man. Oh the horror!
If a man doesn't cook or clean on his own, I wont date him. I specifically date men who love to cook. They won't let me into the kitchen and want to cook all the meals. I love it.
save some for the rest of us 😅
Exactly I ask men if they like 2 cook if they say no they get the ✌🏾
My nephew loves cooking and so I am teaching him to do it. He enjoys it a lot but it is a skill everyone should know the basics of.
Yup my bf is like this I help wash dishes that’s it
@@theteleisewilliamsexperience ----- I'm one of those men that likes to cook and I'm good at making multiple types of meals but if a woman can't cook better than me then that bitch gotta kick rocks 😡
He is genuinely shocked that women get tired 😭😭😭
Ladies, please don't cook and don't clean and don't do laundry and don't do anything for him. If that's the reason why he's with you, then he needs to go hire a maid. If he can't feel loved without free slave labor, he's not the one. Next
“…they’re tired? 😐”
Yes, hunny women are not machines, we need rest. Tf?💀
😂😂😂😂 for REAL
I'm 26 and I'm not even married but I'm already tired!
I understand it’s so stressful watching and listening to all this.😆
😂😂😂😂😂
@@Priscilla_Boye I love you girl. Keep Shinning.❤️
😂😂😂❤
Same. Good thing I stayed single and no kids so I’m blessed. 32 years old and counting.
They do but its mainly for themselves, their kids and their pets.Men expecting constant free labor from women is getting old.
So damn old.
Especially when somebody gotta all but drag them kicking and screaming down the isle. Yea right.
If the man is the only one working and the sole provider for the household then the wife is just supposed to live for free without doing ANYTHING around the house. Oh I forgot, her giving him some pussy is supposed to be good enough and she shouldn't have to do anything else right?
@@dustrepellent8986The shut up ring.
@@dustrepellent8986this right here! 😂
If cooking is so beautiful and shows how much you provide life for someone, why dont more men cook? Probelm solved. Everyone should be cooking for each other.
That first interaction was a hoot. Homie literally malfunctioned when faced with an obvious answer. Meanwhile, he’s alone trying to call out (unsuccessfully) a man in a 20+ year marriage. What a 🤡 😂😂😂
I don’t like the one guy’s point that girls should be raised to serve boys. And I always find it funny that the “roles” they assign to women, like cooking and cleaning, are daily tasks. While the roles they assign for men are once a year or once every few months.
Also when will they accept that not every woman wants to be “wifed up”? They feel entitled to women’s free labor. Also why I think society pays traditionally female jobs like teachers less.
I read that the wages for doctors have gone down in Sweden ever since more women started to be accepted into medical school
yeah that guys an idiot.
@@udontevenwannaknowbruv
What?????? Nohhhhhh😮. The disrespect
In Russia, where most doctors are women, being a doctor doesn’t pay well.
Yep or weekly tasks at max
Because men think our love for them is so strong that it magically gives us this extra boost of energy after work to cook and clean. We both drove to work, sat in traffic, worked, then we repeat with traffic but that doesn't matter because apparently we don't get tired. 🙄
50s women were on uppers.
It also says they don't take our paid work seriously that we could be tired by it.
@seabreeze4559 50s women were housewives, so they didn't work.
@@candyxoxPOC women have always worked
@@seabreeze4559 Mother's Little Helper - there was a song about that
My mother was a SAHM. Kept the house spotless. Homemade food every day. Also took care of me (I have disabilities and I had medical problems in childhood). Just a few years after I had surgery and my mom was able to get a job. Then my dad left. So all that work she did was for nothing.
Did your mom get a job because she felt your dad straying?
Speak that shit ... these men will drain the life out of you during ur BEST YEARS.... Then leave you once they've used you up.
😳
It wasn't all for nothing because she also did it for you. You sound like you appreciate her.
Men want all this done for them and will still complain that a woman is not “pulling her weight” financially by “sitting on her butt at home doing nothing all day”. They do not appreciate it at all, they just think they deserve it.
My parents are happily married 44 years. My dad says if you see a mess you clean it. But he's hardcore military. So is my mom. And the military teaches people to keep things tidy as a team. Daily.
My stepdad has been in my life since I was 10 and I'm so grateful. He's a Navy vet so you already know lol I'm so proud of my mom for leaving my abusive father and upgrading to the best man I've ever met. He's the reason I'm single and happy and didn't settle for an abuser who will fill me with babies and not take care of me.
Breaking news: SHOCKING DISCOVERY! Women are human beings! 😮
Yah because women in the 1950 who cooked and cleaned never got cheated on or abused
These people forget women couldn't even talk to their own doctors until 1970.
@@BrainWitchSivor have a bank account or own a home..."traditional" women of yesteryear stayed in mass because they couldn't really leave and now fast forward to today...granny's babies said they ain't cooking 💩🤣🤣🤣...get somebody's else to do it😜
That is a lie😂 I literally know because I live with a woman from the 1950 who was cheated on repeatedly.....
@beyondallreason-du4pq that's the point. This was a sarcastic comment because people keep pointing to "traditional" women from the 50s.
its sarcasm. of course they got cheated on 99% of them got hurt in some way@@beyondallreason-du4pq
That man should have said, "I have been married for 20 years, how long is your marriage?"
"Oh, you aren't married?
"That makes so much sense."
😂😂😂
The age of patriarchy is over! The family dynamic no longer exists. It is all hands on deck when in a family working as a TEAM. Ladies, being a single woman is a wonderful thing, the peace, freedom, and independence is priceless. Mothers teach your boys how to clean and cook for themselves so that they can contribute to their family.
Amen ❤
I started my son early with maintaining his space and then added responsibility little by little. He’s 18 and has been doing his own laundry for a while now. He knows how to make several meals, how to load the dishwasher, how to make mop water, how to care do his hair (which will translate to hair care for children if he has them). I’m proud of him. He wants nothing to do with toxic masculinity and is disgusted when older men try to get him to engage in that behavior.
All depends on who pays what. I do more housework to pay less bills but that clearly won't work for everyone
@@okaycola2what are you talking about??? It doesn't matter who's making what money, a man should know how to DO FOR THEMSELVES.
Singlehood is complete freedom, AMEN. However, the onus is not just on mothers to teach their sons. It's the father's duty as well.
The more I listen to men talk, the more I miraculously turn gay. The emotional one with veins about to burst on his neck, yelling about how cooking is love, that creature screams domestic abuse to me, if he gets THAT angry over such a small thing and I wouldn't touch him with a stick!
So glad for the man in that first clip immediately correcting that boy in the glasses, not letting any of his foolishness slide. Exposed in full detail how misogynistic he was, talking about "roles" and "what does she do?" as if working full time and raising a family and maintaining the home is a task only one person does.
Here's the contradiction: they want the income that comes from a independent woman.. But expect her to simultaneously be a traditional woman, like a 50s housewife (in 2023)... While NEVER applying the same confused standards to themselves... They don't even realise that, their thoughts and words don't make any sense. Side note: thank God, there are still men who haven't lost their ever loving minds, left in the world.
Exactly. They want a submissive provider.
Exactly the guy saying what's her role, forget protecting and providing
50's housewifes is a myth and i'm tired of seeing that shit. women worked . who were secretaries? teachers? nurses? seamstresses? waitresses? not commonly men. the "50's housewives" were rich with BLACK nannies . that's it. it was not a thing. also google barbituate usage at this time. they werent even happy or content
THIS is the comment. They want that dual income for their use and to live comfortably but don't want to contribute to the work around the house that the woman is also paying for
man: can you cook?
me: idk, can you build a house?
Best response
Fr. Watching animal documentaries and the males create beautiful and impressive homes in hopes the females will give them the time of day. Women give love and health naturally, and it's so disturbing to see human men shit all over us.
@@heyhey439they shit on us because we spoiled them. I'm not blaming us because we were conditioned, to go against our natural instincts so thats undesirable males can get what they NEED without being or putting in effort.
Girllll they loveeee to leeach of the accomplishments of the few actually great men 😂😂
They probably can't afford a house either
I don't mind cooking & cleaning...FOR MYSELF! I only do it for my children until they're grown...THEN THEY DO IT THEMSELVES! Women were not put on this earth to be SLAVES WTF
I cooked for my sister until she was of age to learn for herself. Now she's 16 and making whole meals. Just yesterday she made Filipino spaghetti... something I never even heard of lol
Girl i got a snack cabinet where my ten year old knows damn well to get himself something to eat if im busy🤣😂im not a slave and he knows it.
So your husband can't eat the food you cook for yourself and your children?
I was with a man I did everything for, cook, cleaning after him and his children, take care of brand new grandson, sex several times a day, wash his clothes, encourage him, style his hair, support his dreams and he said we were only friends. Then he would tell certain people I was his woman, he would drive my automobile and leave the tank empty. Belittle me, criticize and tell me I should be taking care of him.
Manipulative opportunist glad you are no longer with him 🤗💕💕
I like the word “ was with a man @. Glad you left him
😂😂😂😂 every woman I saw who cooked and cleaned religiously got taken for granted and treated like crap.
I even like cooking but I refuse to do it for any man unless he’s bringing me elk meat or something.
I used to cook for men automatically but it was rarely appreciated.
It’s the celibate man, trying to coach a married man for 20 years what a good marriage is 😹😹😹😹😹the IRONY
"Who told you that?" Code for," Who said you can think for yourself?"
it's lowkey gaslight isn't it?
@@seabreeze4559it really is!
Like I'm just not about to doubt women's lived reality based on what a man with Awesome Blossom hair has to say. 😂
I couldn’t quite understand why that got under my skin but you’re exactly right!!!
Exactly! They have all of the audacity but none of the humility
Men make not leave you because you cook, but they'll still cheat on you......
That’s what I said! They’ll stay but they’ll cheat and treat you and the kids like burdens.
What a prize!
Yes. These men don’t even love the women. They stay out of comfort but really be wanting the chick that doesn’t cook and clean or make life easier for him. Women need to understand that men will use you for resources. That’s it.
I interact with a lot of men in their late 60s and 70s. Some are divorce and others are widowers. And in the last years they had grown more and more desperate as it's getting really hard to find a partner. Why? most women in their mid 50 up are either divorced or widows too and in their own words "being single is happiness" "I had done all that housewife shit for decades, not anymore"...
This young men are up for a surprise. Unless you want to spend the rest of your days alone, respect your women.
I married a man, gave children, cooked, cleaned, and worked two full-time jobs, no appreciation or respect...So what do you call that?
Yes sis, it's called domestic slavery. Been there done that for 50 yrs😩
wtf was wrong with your husband even let u work 2 jobs i would have given everything if your were my wife
@rishayraj4125 You would have given everything only after treating her like a slave first ??? LOL
You’d have let her work just one full time job, while still taking care of the house, kids etc …SMH
Why haven't men learned to cook and clean yet?
It's partly the fault of their moms who coddle them and their fathers who don't make them.
You can be a woman of God, submissive, and he’ll still go out there and fool with someone else. Being single is peaceful. I tell God all the time, thank you for sustaining me financially and mentally because I can’t be tied to a deplorable man.
Amen to that!!!! And that's why I'm GLAD that I chose to remain single, and never had children!!! 57, retired and doing whatever the hell I want to do without worrying about catering to anyone else, especially a self centered and narcissistic man!!! I'm good!!! F all men at this point!!!
@@scorpionqueen66they'll callu a cat lady 🤦
Nonsense why should women be submissive lol
Nonsense why should women be submissive lol
@@randomlyswatching9481god❤s catladies😂
When I work from home I cook and clean on my breaks. I am single and have to get my grown son out of bed to clean and cook and get attitude. I tell him real quick I’m not your fn maid, get your a** up and be productive. No woman wants a crusty, dusty, lazy man!
Tell him to start looking around for his own place. That cord has to be cut and it sounds like it's long overdue.
Get him out
Why are you still nagging that grown ass man???!? He gotta get TF out your house 🤣
Lady, that's not a good sign. You better get him out of your house, or do something because that doesn't sound like someone that's going to be any type of productive to mother Nature or society
I love how smart the second guy is. He's in a 20+ year marriage because him and his partner respect each other and cater to each other's needs. The other guy is too focused on rules and roles. If your partner is in the hospital, now what? Do you wait for everything to get done the second they recover? If you don't know how to do the things your partner does, you're going to struggle when they can't do it.
I'm 57 and I'm GLAD that I never got married or had children, because everything that I would do in that position would be totally for HIS benefit and enjoyment, and I don't want to end up being totally unhappy, miserable and my mental health would be in total shambles!!! I'm also glad that I was raised to take care of myself before I would take care of anybody else, and that's why I'm GLAD that I'm living my life for ME MYSELF AND I ONLY!!! Simply put, MEN AIN'T SHIT!!! I said what I said and I'm sticking to it!!!
"Cook and clean your damn self" in front of her dad. Proud of this dad for being a healthy male figure and teaching his girl to be assertive.
I almost adopted her on the spot. Got the paperwork signed and everything too😂
He had the look of, no one’s disrespecting my daughter because taught her self-worth. Good job Dad! My dad is the same way 😂 and he was born in the 1950s.
He doesn't want a girlfriend or wife; he wants a servant or his mother.
Mothers don't need to cook for grown children either.
@@sarahrobertson634 I agree with you there.
@@lurkingindacomments7865 Exactly!
You women really think that okay let's go to war women should be drafted fix your own car if you need a man's help do it yourself if you need a man to fix something in the house do it yourself if you have a problem being a housewife go 50/50 I need you to pay half of the rent I need you to pay half an electricity bill I need you to pay half of everything we are going 50/50 in this house if you don't want that go into the kitchen cook dinner take care of the children take care of the house and I'll pay all the bills what's the problem 50/50 or housewife
Dude who said "You girls need to go back in the kitchen" in one breath and then who told you cooking is some oppressive thing in the next?!?!?!? Sir, you just did. 😅😂😅😂 If it's not for oppressive reasons, why must we "go back" in the kitchen? You are seeing in real time how if we are not FORCED to cook, we don't wanna. That is literally the point you are making. And then you're confused that we are calling it oppressive? If it's not, why don't YOU do it???? Is it because it takes a lot of work, time and effort and you don't want to either? But somehow women doing crap they don't like is the natural order of things but men don't have the expectation at all and it's not misogyny? Dude needs to smell what he's shoveling.
Men: I want a traditional woman who will clean the house, cook the food, do the dishes, fold the laudry, style my hair, never talk back, doesn't go out with friends every week, always look good for me, stays in shape, care for the kids, and boost my ego on the daily but she can't be "lazy" and also needs to work a full time job because I don't want no gold digger😡!
Women: ok and what will you bring into this relationship in return?
Men: I'll go half on rent
Women: No thank you. Im not looking for a roommate
Men: SeE this WhY YoU gOnNA DiE alone😡!
Women: Que "golden girls theme song"😌😏
😂😂
Not Golden Girls
Cooking and cleaning might “keep” a man married to you, but it won’t keep them faithful!
Absolutely!!
If men want their women to cook 3 meals a day and clean up after their mess then he needs to be the sole provider. Meaning the woman should not be working a full time. And a lot of these men dont make enough to provide for a family.
If a man wants that he needs to hire someone or go back home to his mom where she might actually like doing for him as an unpaid service worker 🤷🏾♀️
@@GGGG-uj1no I'm not doing anything like that for my son.
@@sarahrobertson634i knows I ain't either😂😂
They act like they throw diamonds at us every time we cook
@@beyondallreason-du4pq Males have been able to demand this shit in times past because we were held hostage. We were forced to be bang maids and baby carriages. Ladies, only get into a relationship with a man who sees you as an equal. They are super pissed off that we are no longer their sex slaves, domestic servants, and breeding cattle. They got the idea that they're the sun and we orbit around them. When we walk away, and withdraw our attention, affection, domestic labor, and childbearing capacity, they get really angry. But we belong to ourselves, not to them. And they need to understand that they don't own us.
Men are not providing anymore so why the heck should we be doing anything for them?
Exactly. They want to give us absolutely nothing but still expect us to be “traditional women” ie serving them.
If a guy was making 200K a year, I'd be bending over backward for him. Guys barely hitting 30K a year and wants you to work a full time job, clean, cook, and raise the kids, pay the bills AND fix the house. Sorry mfers.
right!! @@crazymusicgrlcheesecake
@@crazymusicgrlcheesecake exactly they can WANT all they want. ain't gonna happen
@@SunnyHeartKay it’s a joke!
I love how these dudes demand that women go to work and be traditional housewives and cook and clean for them constantly while most of them don't know how to repair anything in the house or on the car and don't do any yard work or grill. Traditional gender roles only go one way for these podcast boys.
"cook your damn self" LOL 😆 but so bloody true as well 😁😎. Also cooking 🍳 and cleaning 🧹 is for both male and female adults to be able to do.
I am an excellent cook and have had several catering businesses over my lifetime. However, when I was dating, I got to the point where I wouldn't even let a man I was dating know how talented I was in the kitchen because they had an expectation that cooking was my responsibility because I was a woman, and that I should be happy to cook and clean for them.
Over they years I learned that cooking for a man, as well as utilizing the many other skills I possessed, was not appreciated, and certainly not matched by any similar contributions (traditional or not) that a man brought into my life. Most men will watch a woman work outside the home, come home and work her tongue out inside the home, and will show little or no appreciation for the effort. Cooking and cleaning for a man is not a privilege, it is a thankless burden and I'm glad more women are just saying no to this form of modern day slavery.
I refuse to cook or clean for a liar/cheating financially irresponsible bandit 💯
We don't have to take their bs
I’m generation X. When I was coming into the time of dating and looking to be married I wanted to be a traditional wife because I really wanted to be home to raise my own children and create a nurturing environment. However the majority of the men I would date would express wanting a woman who worked and contributed a significant amount to obtaining a certain lifestyle. When I asked about how they felt about their future children being in a daycare with strangers 9-13 hours a day they saw nothing wrong with it. It blew my mind. They prioritized nice cars and a big home over instilling your own values into your children and making sure they are safe and well loved. Then the man I met who said he was supportive of traditional roles, became emotionally and financially abusive when I was pregnant with our child. Overall it’s crazy to me that men nowadays are acting like they want traditional roles when they aren’t trying to be traditional men. It’s not traditional if the woman is working full time outside the home. It’s a hybrid that allows men to exploit women for free labor. It’s predatory. In hindsight I would never fully rely on a man for my financial stability. At any moment that he decides to switch up you and your children can be in for a rough time. I’d advise any woman who values a traditional role to at least have a passive stream of income and her own assets before marriage. That way you will not be so vulnerable if your partner doesn’t live up to his end of the agreement.
That was always the problem for women in traditional roles. Most women also didn't have passive incomes, so they became entirely dependent on their husband for money and anything else she needed or wanted and she better not want much! If he was a cruel guy, you had a crap life. That's why unless you absolutely have to, it's not wise to depend on someone else for your income or much else either honestly.
I agree that a lot of men today are cherrypicking part of traditional and modern roles - she should pay 50% of the bills and yet still do 100% of the cooking, household and childcare. Which is even worse than the purely traditional role, because at least they do not have to pay any bills at all, he provides. I thought my ex was a modern man, because he loved successful women and her being educated and intelligent and successful was important to him. Unfortunately, it turned out he wanted this kind of successful good looking woman to also pay 50% or more of the bills. And she has to act generally submissive to him, also she needs to take care of contraception, do all kinds of help for him,… It was shocking. Just even more expectations placed on women without taking away any old ones. Needless to say he has trouble finding beautiful successful women who want to fill this role
I agree that a lot of men today are cherrypicking part of traditional and modern roles - she should pay 50% of the bills and yet still do 100% of the cooking, household and childcare. Which is even worse than the purely traditional role, because at least they do not have to pay any bills at all, he provides. I thought my ex was a modern man, because he loved successful women and her being educated and intelligent and successful was important to him. Unfortunately, it turned out he wanted this kind of successful good looking woman to also pay 50% or more of the bills. And she has to act generally submissive to him, also she needs to take care of contraception, do all kinds of help for him,… It was shocking. Just even more expectations placed on women without taking away any old ones. Needless to say he has trouble finding beautiful successful women who want to fill this role
@@Marivi247 It’s a scam. These men want beautiful slaves. Technology needs to hurry up with the humanoid robots so the men can order exactly what they want.
your experience has happened to tons of women in the past, and is exactly why society is encouraging women to pursue some kind of career before marriage/childbearing. Many men aren't reliable.
I cook and clean for me and my kids. If the man I’m with don’t pay bills he will be dismissed and can’t sit at OUR table in OUR home.
That opening conversation is HILARIOUS. Especially at 2:10 - "If there's something that needs to be built, who builds it?" Dude's seriously gonna kick his feet up while his wife does literally everything, "I'm just gonna sit right here babe in case we need to build a toolshed or whatever."
The real question is, why aren't most men adulting?
I’ve been married for six year. We have one toddler. My husband cooks and cleans just like me. It’s not that hard to understand. We are a family and got each others back!!
thats a healthy relationship! sadly something thats rare
You're one of the lucky ones!!! God bless you and your family 🙏🏾
Hope y'all stay blessed ❤
It cracked me up when fratboy was ranting about how women needed to stop saying cooking is oppressive. When he asked, “what? You’re gonna let your 6yo starve? Make them cook a hotpocket in the microwave because you’re not cooking? You’re gonna let your man starve?” And i answered yes to all of those questions. 💁🏾♀️😂 Why? Because if you’re a grown man and can’t cook for yourself, then you aren’t fit to be a husband, boyfriend nor a parent. Because what parent doesn’t atleast know how to cook for themselves? Or atleast teach their children to be self sufficient when they don’t have any adults around? Like if a child can learn to wipe their own behinds when they’re potty trained by the age of 2, what makes them think a kid couldn’t learn the basics of how to feed themselves at age 6?
If my child can’t even do the basics before they reach 10yo, then i feel like i’m not doing my job as a parent to my kid(s). I be seeing kids under the age of 10 in asian, indian and african countries already know how to cook food, clean while doing their homework, play, recreational activities. Meanwhile we have manchildren in the states whining about women not cooking and cleaning because they don’t get to be lazy adults and sit on their @$$es all day. 🤦🏾♀️ just embarrassing. I learned how to atleast do chores, cook for myself and take care of myself (do my hair, bathe, get up for school, etc..) at age 4yo. So how are these males claiming to be grown men and still complaining about things not being done by a woman that they should’ve learned to do for themselves atleast before they became a legal adult? 🤦🏾♀️
I don't think two year old are good at wiping tho
@@catcat9582 To be fair, a lot of 20 year olds aren't great at it either😂
@ATLKing404 lol that's funny bc it's true
There is no way that I would allow a 4 year old near a lit stove. That is dangerous as hell
@TheJmustang07 I'm glad someone else agrees =/ I definitely believe in teaching children to make choices on their own at that age. Such as what fruit to eat. Orange or an apple? And I've seen videos of women who have small little mini fridges and the child can do very, very, very minimal snack/ meal preparation.
To him, a woman is a slave. That's it.
As someone who actually loves cooking and don't mind cooking for others, it would still feel oppressive if my bf feels entitled to my cooking. Anyone cooking for someone else is a gift, and cannot be forced.
Incidentally one of the most romantic activities for me is to cook with my bf. Great way to chat and bond over a shared activity and of course we both get a delicious meal at the end.
I'm so happy and relieved to hear these real men. Ive read awful comments from horrible men. I'm so encouraged to hear from good men.
I love cooking and cleaning for my family. It is my way of showing love. I love to care for my home because I have been homeless and I do not take it for granted. However, when I am outta commission on my full moon time, cramping and bleeding and needing help, nobody steps up.
Also, a lot of people don't care if you cook and clean for them. They don't see it as an act of love.
Until you stop.
You poor thing. Read your first paragraph again. You said you love being a slave for people who could care less. 😢
Exactly lack of apreciaction …
Imagine doing all that for people who don't care
@@beautyforashes1948 For real. She is painting this fairytale life, then says they don't care. I could never. They would starve before I lift a finger.
Look, my parents got married in 1956. Mom stayed at home while Dad worked (because 7 kids). But guess what ? Dad came straight home from work, rolled up his sleeves and began pitching in on household duties. He was an active, present, loving husband and father who had NO issues with cooking, cleaning, laundry and childcare. They were a true TEAM in every sense.
And guess what too ? My brothers did learn how to do all the inside-the-house work (cooking,cleaning, laundry, dishes, etc.) We daughters did learn how to mow, weed trim, rake leaves, simple car maintenance, use power tools, etc. The only limitations were when sheer physical strength was a major factor, and even then we figured out workarounds so we could accomplish those tasks.
With over 90% of chores, there were no “boy/man chores” and “girl/woman chores” - whoever had the availability was called upon.
In my last relationship, I did all the “Wifey” housekeeping and cooking… AND most everything else outdoors too (except the mowing because HE wouldn’t let me use his precious brand-new Zero Turn mower 🙄) - but I did all the weed trimming, edging, landscaping, painted the *entire* pool deck, lopping and dragging branches to the burn pile, washing the vehicles,etc etc etc.
And he STILL CHEATED and dumped me for another woman (who had cheated on and dumped him 18 years prior).
These Manosphere goofuses need to stop pretending they’ll treat a “Wifey” type of woman with any more respect than they treat “Non-Wifey” types. It doesn’t matter *what* we do or don’t do, ManosphereDudes *will* denigrate and despise us because they don’t actually see us as co-equal human beings.
They always want the traditional women, with a traditional marriage but lack being the traditional husband.
My husband does most of the cooking because I’m a bad cook 😂😂😂😂 he never complains and oh he pays all the bills. When I try to help him in the kitchen he makes me snack and put on my favorite show 🍱 and tell me to go relax he got it. We didn’t get married because of cooking we got married because we love each other and wants share our lives together.
Love that!
What are men doing for women? Working? Everybody has to work these days. Having a job is not a masculine flex.
Wow... he had zero understanding or compassion for women being tired. I think lots of men see women as servant robots. He has a very stinky attitude that does not inspire the energy to provide a homecooked meal for.
It's a huge turn off when men are oblivious to their abuse and utter laziness. There would be zero motivation to feed a person who is covertly abusive by treating someone as a robot. How is he feeding himself without a woman cooking? Does he apply the same standards onto himself?
That man in the first part of the video is married for 20 years, and has multiple children. When I listen to him it makes sense. It is clear how he managed that. I wish him and his family good life.
Currently watching this video. I am on the Nate Garner part of it and I want to point something out. He asks who told women that cooking was oppressive. Nobody told me. I knew it when I was forced to learn to cook at age 8, making my first Thanksgiving turkey. I was the youngest person in my house and I cooked at least 1 meal a day until I was 15. Most weekends, I was cooking every meal. I "had" to learn to cook because I "was the girl" and was going to have to cook for my own family one day. I also had to serve my father first (literally make his plate, take it to him in the living room with salt & pepper, and wait until he had it seasoned to his liking) then everyone else could eat, but usually ended up with me eating last. It was a form of abuse to me growing up and I hate cooking for the most part as an adult.
Where was your mother?
@@fatemad4012 sitting on her butt mostly. She would tell me instructions sometimes. It was mostly my dad that made me cook. My mom refused to step in though.
If these men require a women's income to sustain THEIR lifestyle then these same men need to pay for housekeepers and a personal chef or meal-delivery service.
I can never understand women working full-time jobs AND still expected to cook and clean.
Why are women muling in 2023???
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I definitely know how to cook. Its a thing in my family. None of my exes knew I could cook lol
This. I can cook and I can cook pretty well but ain't no man gonna know that for a good long time, if ever, because I'm not letting those expectations run wild
Omg same. People always assume that i can't cook(apparently i look like a spoiled brat) and i don't correct them.
I know that’s right! 😂
I’ve been cooking since I was 14 but I’ve stopped since and I’m in the same place, no one knows I can cook. I’ve grown to really hate cooking after a few relationships where I became people’s personal restaurant but without the pay 😂
Two can play weaponized incompetence, I guess
😂 these men are hilarious! These men trying to trick women into performing basic life skills for them. Like if you’re not capable of feeding yourself as an adult… that’s just lame. And do it or you’ll leave us? Who wants a guy who can’t feed themselves?
Or pay their own bills. These dude’s want 50/50 relationships because without the woman’s income they wouldn’t be able to move out of their parents basement.
Im a man and i was taught to not be a baby. damn men should also be able to cook and clean. its basic skills
There's a reason why the dude in the beginning has been married for 20+ years and the one in the glasses will die alone.
I like the first conversation. "We do what needs to be done." That sums up the reality.
Why are men not paying ALL of the bills so that their wives don’t have to work a job outside the home and do all of the work within the home?
There is an Indian movie in my language- 'The Great Indian Kitchen'. Anytime a guy saying cooking isn't 'oppressive', he should be forced to watch it. As if him frying a sunny side up once in a blue moon to woo a woman, is the same feeding a grown baby everyday.
If a man is so incompetent that he'll starve if his wife doesn't cook for him, he is definitely not a reliable partner. If he can't feed himself, what will happen if his partner has an illness? What will happen to their kids? Do these guys not realise they are advertising to the world that they are overgrown, unreliable babies who are just looking for a free parent
Exactly that’s has to be embarrassing ❤😮facts
Yess I love that movie so much ❤ there even is a scene where the fl who's stuck in this awful marriage, talks to her friend, who's married happily to a husband who loves her and asks her what she's in the mood to eat since he seems to love cooking for her, obviously showing what a good working marriage in modern times look like. Kind of wanting to give a stark contrast with fl who's in a dark and suffocating room while her friend is sitting covered in glowing sunlight during the call.