“Language, Creativity, and the Limits of Understanding” by Professor Noam Chomsky (4-21-16)
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2016
- Professor Noam Chomsky public lecture: "Language, Creativity, and the Limits of Understanding"
April 21, 2016
5:00 PM - 7:00 PM
Interfaith Chapel Sanctuary
University of Rochester
The University of Rochester’s Distinguished Visiting Humanist for the 2015-16 academic year will be Professor Noam Chomsky (Institute Professor & Professor of Linguistics, Emeritus, at MIT), who was in residence from Wednesday, April 20 through Friday, April 22, 2016.
Professor Chomsky is one of the most influential thinkers and public intellectuals of our time, writing and speaking about everything from linguistics and the mind to the nature and cultural significance of power, force, exploitation, manipulation, the media, and just government. He was voted the leading living public intellectual in the 2005 Global Intellectuals Poll conducted by the British magazine Prospect, is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and the National Academy of Sciences, and has received honorary degrees from over 35 universities around the world. In 2011, he was awarded the Sydney Peace Prize.
I love Professor Chomsky. A true genius and one of History's greatest Homo sapiens.
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Why? Stop giving this guy free god-man status and tell me why he is so clever? what is he saying to u that I cannot say to u more convincingly and with more gravitas? and no, I am not joking.
Put a better way, what can one do with his knowledge? how does his understanding improve our understanding? how does it improve our chances of out-running our collective demons? I will go ahead and tell u that it doesn't.
@@skyjuiceificationwell then humanity really is on a highway to destruction.
It starts at 7:30
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Thank you!
@@qrst2008 Thank you!
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Thunderous applause well earned. Contemporary Socrates. You bet I was thrilled out of my academic mind to chance upon him at a Henry Ford College faculty lounge luncheon in the early 90s. (Good spread, too.) I was only 1 at table who knew his work on linguistics. Exploited that advantage for all it was worth. 2 hours of playing Locke to his Descartes. Have an autographed copy of ATS 2 prove it.
You’re a very lucky person my friend.
Why would Chomsky be, "playing Descartes?" Chomsky is an Empiricist (Locke) not a Rationalist (Descartes.) You must have had some momentary dyslexia when you made this You Tube comment.
@@BlantonDelbert He believes in innate ideas- linguistic universals/'depth grammar'- that makes him a Cartesian, his acknowledgment of which began our discussion. Read his debate with Skinner. Language acquisition cannot, according to Prof. Chomsky, be fully explained as a form of learned behavior. The basis of it must be basic acts that we perform naturally, such as associating sights and sounds: See dada, say 'dada'.
@@BlantonDelbert it's flipped, he's a rationalist, not an empiricist
Read 'a galilean science of language' paper for a thorough critique of Chomsky showing that his method of doing science is not rigorous and is significantly flawed. He hasn't really done anything of intellectual merit since his early stuff. He is extremely over rated, highly dogmatic and mostly relies on and repeats his views that he's held for years without changing them in the face of devastating evidence proving them wrong.
imagine trying to sign interpret this in real-time
this is my first time seeing the simultaneous translation to sign language in an academic lecture, wonderful job!
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Amazed by his wisdom..
Take A Moment Jester Moon here from Untruedaux Land.
These guy are standing on the shoulders of giants.
Professor Norm Chummy is on the top of all heads in his field.
Thank you my friend
Your work will live on
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I though that the inner "I" ...a stream of consciousness, a spontaneous flow of emotion -is brilliance brought forth, with ease, comprehensive and comprehensivable. If you missed or misunderstood his narrative don't blame him on your own lack of lucidity. Professor Chomsky is the first Professor who has not failed miserably toward a difficult subject matter. He has parsed it so that every-one can understand it if one is care-full.
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Given the infinite possibilities of Language’s ability to stimulate Creativity and Understanding,
no wonder Noam Chomsky chose to specialize in linguistics.
I need written transcript
7:29 folks. The intro was like most intros, a lot of unnecessary personal information and intellectual gate crashing. REMEMBER THE FOLLOWING THREE WORDS: SHORT AND SWEET.
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You’ve made it in academia when there’s two people introducing you.. 😂😂😂
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and they quoted others with even more praise =)
I really wish those people would stfu, frankly. The ego it must take.
Yea the video should simply starts from when the real speaker starts his speech
Chomsky can go as far as to the different dimensions. If one can concentrate in everything he says, it is equivalent to traveling from one place to another in such a short period in different times..
27:00 "The language capacity evolved quickly and hasn't changed since,
leading to the belief it is quite simple"
That ties in nicely with Jeff Hawkins 1000 brains theory.
The neocortex is doing the same thing everywhere - whether it is vision or touch or smell or language.
That a small system evolved then repeated itself is Jeff's theory.
Once evolution hit on an information processing model, it just repeated it across the whole cortex.
It's kinda crazy watching Chomsky interviews, because the hosts actually did their work, know what they are talking about, ask good questions, let him answer, are challenging him, basically the polar opposite what I see on the youtube today.
I wish that I was with this opportunity to listen and speak and tolke and spoke with this great scainces like Professor Women. This may hob .
Organization of mind and brain has to be understood to corelate language followed by result oriented action.Galolian language elevated human society to the path of progress.This century has more to offer and Noam Chomsky is the GUIDE.
Organization of mind and brain has to be understood to corelate language followed by result oriented action, is applicable to animals, when faced by some danger an animal makes a sound understood by all other animals to corelate a particular animal and a particular danger calling for actions accordingly. Once a cat had all seven kittens transferred to another location, but the cat re located all seven kittens to another place of her choice, proving they can count.
If I had the opportunity to ask one question of Noam Chomsky it would be: Mr. Chomsky, have you ever noticed how all of us seem to exist in the midst of a Language that communicates to us through form? I mean to say the world around us is in fact a Language communicating to us? The things we see and perceive outwardly exist inwardly and evoke thought in us?
This is a brilliant question.
Listening to professor #Chomsky and professor #Stevenpinker in the past 20 years and being passionate about linguistics, trying to decipher how my mind works. I come to a strange conclusion.
After every lecture, (and I usually listen to it three times, and one more time a year later). I come to the conclusion my #infinite , #immortal mind doesn’t work as well as it should.
Certainly my mind works better today than it did 10 years ago. not to mention 20 years ago. I was completely out of my mind #successful #businessman spent $800,000 before income tax, without purchasing any #realestate , without purchasing any motor vehicles simply blowing it away on the #lifestyle .
that’s what I call #artwork #artist #art #howtopaint #drawing mindlessness.
#IamBogoslowsky🦁🤴 .
"Charles Sanders Peirce: Our reasoning in science and ordinary life is guided by adductive principles that crucially limit the range of hypotheses we are currently capable of entertaining."
"There are limits to the range of human understanding." Noam Chomsky
Pointing out concision or?...
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Noam claims our language didn't change much in the last 100,000 years, but when we find our expressions from 500 years ago they differ from those 2000 years ago.
@ Uploader or other contributors; is there any way to upload this GREAT Video again in a HIGH resolution & even MOST importantly though if the SUBTITLE could be added too (ideally as a [.srt])?
If we discover immortality in the near future plx use it on chomsky first.
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@@sweetbrown3476 Good good, i kinda overslept and the weather is the unmotivated kind of snowing. Thanks for asking, hope you doing well too!
I guess it's only polite to ask too: Are you doing well and how is the weather over there?
U have said what has always been in my mind.
Would anyone be able to tell me whether (at around 38.05) whether Chomsky is referring to (and critiquing) the work in the vein of George Lakoff and embodied cognition? i.e. what is the "great deal of work comparing organisation of actual speech, and organisation of other actions" that Chomsky critiques?
46:48 the difference might be that in addition to the external world, humans live in a vast internal world of sensory memories and as well as intellectual memories and concepts. Just like machines, humans might in fact be compelled to say the things that they say, rather than being only inclined. But neither we ourselves nor observers of us are aware of the hidden internal memory state of a mind brain system. An then there is the effect of errors in memory as well as in associations between memories that further complicates the predictability of human thought and language.
Chomsky is one of the best lenses by which to grasp the nature of things. He is in good company with the best scientists, philosophers, and literary folk (especially Shakespeare) of the species. It is interesting that the most quoted public American intellectual is not on NPR, or on TV. In the 1920s he would have been jailed, as was Bertrand Russell for his suggestion that Britain stay out of WW I. Gadflies, like great artists, are routinely ignored by the ruling class until after they're dead.
Bravo!
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Yes, Bravo.
Reminds me of a year sequence in college on Language and Human Behavior, Limits of Language, and Language and Metaphor delivered by S. John Macksoud. Reminds me independently of Mary Parker Follett's Creative Experience. Not to mention Charles Sanders Peirce's expansion of logic as abduction and so in ways, pretensions aside, still hardly understood. Brilliant.
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What blew my mind was: 'limited hypothesis space' vs 'inference to the best explanation'; as well as children 'sampling (?)' various languages/dialects before they settle on one.
also cool that the purpose of language is thought not communication
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Amazing intelligence.
Laser light sees through it all--not one thing escapes his understanding.
My sacrifice 🙏🏻, I couldn’t find any words to explain. It’s when I listened, seeing and do focusing , it’s the picturesque views sensory. I wrote what’s I sensed emerged innermost. How’s great my sacrifice 🙏🏻, as something crystallized from absorbing by myself experiences. It’s not complicated it’s naturally with what’s you seeing and writing with feeling inside 😊. It’s the focus on what’s going on next as the basic life of man is the Same what’s like or dislike, hate or happiness. It’s selfish ways of being selfish in my observation the mostly of destructive ways of each other’s 😊.
hi, I wonder if there is a transcript for that talk, thank you.
Watched all of it 1:25:15
Why am I not impressed with Chomsky? Good question.
18:42 Would be interested in hearing this evidence
1:18:52 comment about the potential of machine learning (statistical learning)
You can skip the intros to 7:18
SUBTITLE please!!
Why Noam Chomsky does not have a Nobel Peace Prize is a mystery.
He doesn't need it, wouldn't want to take it from another--very humble.
I needed to listen to this more than once
The bits of language and language capacity are great
Some of the other bits are so-so.
I can't work out if he thinks all thoughts are linguistic or symbolically based
It sounds like it at times
To me this seems like old fashioned nonsense
You don't need to consider neuroscience or Neural nets
Just consider a standard computer running a traditional program analsysing pictures for shapes
At the level of 'thoughts' of the program they are not all symbols
"so this is kinda mild" what a boss. Man the US is a tough place lol.
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@@sweetbrown3476 some kind of machine learning exercise?
7:22 Chomsky speech starts. You are welcome!
Let no one unskilled in Chomsky enter.
Talking about the evidence of the evolution of human language capacity within the time periods 60.000 years..??
Who on earth can conduct such surveys??
With what accuracy?..🙄🤔
Any help?..
Catalhoyuk videos might give you an idea, to look further.
good discussion- I want the script of the talk. who will come forward to send to my mail.
Starts at 7:32
2:13 whatever you need it’s not precepts. 2:48
What was the spelling of the Psanish physician philosopher he mentioned around 12:45 who described three levels of intelligence. I tried googling “Juan horte” but my results weren’t what I was looking for
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Dr.G.Mary Sunanda, working at university, T.S, India, want the text of this speech.
Oh my God these intros, can't academics resist having 30sec of attention on behalf of the lecturer? No one goes to hear those guys, ever
Usually, the more intelligent the introducer, the less time they spend on intros. We all know who Chomsky is, and if you're smart, you know we dont care about you, blabbermouths. The more time you spend grandstanding, the less time people have to ask questions.
Most profs in the world are not known at all. Academic guest speakers are usually introduced in that manner. No need in Chomsky's case but thats just how its done.
I know! I just skip over it.
you mean 4 minutes
1:15:44 Thought does not require language
But its very interesting that it functions like a kind of "plug-in" to give us novel 'language mediated' thoughts. Linguistic thoughts have a different character and, importantly, function to non-linguistic thoughts. So the feeling of hunger is functionally different to the sentence "I am hungry", for example. One is like an internal memo whilst the other is 'packaged', potentially, for external use as a signal. So in this view language is the evolved propensity to externalise, through the older sensory/motor mode, the internal
Of course not. That's like saying "walking does not require feet". You can probably do some form of walking without feet, but for humans this is severely limiting. Language does refine and expand our capacity for thought. Children who have normal functioning brains but are prevented from learning language (e.g. feral children) develop severe cognitive disabilities and have trouble learning and understanding concepts that everyone else easily understands with language.
Thought does require language. Chomsky's example was rather weak, imo. If I find a way to get to place Y from place X - I am engaging in thought and what makes up my thoughts? Words. Even if it's image-based such as I picture a mental map of the neighborhood I'm in all of this can be done only because I have categories and these categories are built using language.
+Jaii Raph
He explained it clearly in the Q&A.
"It doesn't... conform to simple introspection."
Meditation does not require language.
Most scholars don't meditate.
Meditation is self-thought.
This doesn't require the generative expression of language.
As he stated many times the endeavour of modern human science was to explain (or express) the world as a mechanical system since that is the system our biology has allowed us to communicate to one another with. This one step beyond fundamental communication, the composition of it, is simply the organization of our thoughts in relation to others, which has played a vital role in our evolutionary domination of the planet... family.
The problem with our species is the "limitations" he presupposes.
We consider our band to be the _closest_ 100 specimen in our own species.
However, considering the actual information available in this age we can understand that all living things are our family and even more so that all reality exists as one. Their third tier mind creates it all. Therefore it doesn't take a genius like Noam to suggest that thought doesn't require language. Animals have been proven to have brain activity similar to human thought and they function without the biological adaptation of processing languages. It gets down to one's definition of a thought and our need to share our's to survive.
+Charlotte Marceau
I like your example.
Internalization works the same as externalization.
They are the functional organization of our thoughts.
However *_introspection_* which is what Noam mentions is different.
It does't require organization of thought or free expression.
It only requires conscious awareness of one's being.
This is more fundamental than internal reflection.
How did they communicate during Holocaust? By using aesthetics. Let's keep in touch :)
That was nice! Now, back to cooking. I hope nothing got burned.
7:33
All I learned from this is that we have a soul which is the puppeteer and that the language of the thought or brain is different than the language of communication just like in the case of microprocessors while understanding only binary but communicating using others. Am I close?
I'm speechless (I guess that was his aim)
+MckennaCountrCulture
A more admirable aim would have been to spark intelligent discussion.
As I believe was the purpose of his talk.
K, say something smart then .
MckennaCountrCulture .
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Language is not the ultimate means of expression. Action is. Deed surpasses words. It has always been as such with the humanity.
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Lol good old chomsky, "that was up to you, the people aka workers
interessant
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1:07 and ON ABOUT AIRPLANES!!!!...the mechanical universe? no
I think 95% of the audience is completely lost.
On the other hand, the audience asked some very good questions. It is necessary to be lost at first in order to understand new things.
Any conversation about language goes off the rails when somebody tries to put it in the context of "talking robots", for example if one person is speaking from the standpoint of better writing or poetry and the other is an AI enthusiest. I know about Chomsky enough to know that he is speaking about how people get along with each other, and he has probably built very few robots. LinkedIn is the hub of robot-mania.
19:55
biological what?
didn't get the word after it
pretty sure it's "endowment"
something arbitrarily gifted to an individual or entity, or an honor entitled to some x (being an object, institution, or otherwise independent entity)
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spinoza's god
I'd like to witness an ego duel between Noam Chomsky and Neil de Grasse Tyson. I do think that Noam will win.
Tyson is no match, not even close , he is just a physicist
Describe to us all what ego is?
I am lost on the Galalio Challenge. Can some one five me a basic definition?
Am I correct to say the challenge in reference to language is: how can 25 or so sounds create an unlimited number of words, sentences, communicative structure and thought?
Speaking of linguistics... 'Noam Chomsky' said in a nanosecond would be unintelligible :-) (1.00)
HOW HAS CHOMSKY NEVER HEARD OF JOHN DEE AND ENOCHIAN MAGIC OF THE 1500’s TO PRESENT
200th.
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8:00 What language is - Galilean challenge
There come a time when I think it is a nightmare that such great people's minds disappear because of aging
Noam may not be as energetic as his younger self but i assure you his mind is still working quite well.
@@robertstewart4953 why are you logged in with your fake account, Noam ?
@@noninvasive_rectal_probe8990 good one weeb. Full internet access and that was the best one liner you could muster. I can see how you may be too dense to understand the Professor's complicated rhetoric.
@@robertstewart4953 lol, he just a linguist and does not spread inaccessible knowledge. But I have seen him at his ~50 and there is no doubt that he has been way better and pellucid
Emotional currency.
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Let him know Godel Thm
So sorry, when you have good advice on your ignorance. 1:48
Recommend everyone to read 'a galilean science of language' paper for a thorough critique of Chomsky showing that his method of doing science is not rigorous and is significantly flawed. He hasn't really done anything of intellectual merit since his early stuff. He is extremely over rated, highly dogmatic and mostly relies on and repeats his views that he's held for years without changing them in the face of devastating evidence proving them wrong.
7:32 bs intros end, Chomsky starts.
Skip to seven and a half mins
This guy sold out on 911
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I enjoy Chomsky’s linguistics/philosophical talks/views far more than his political sermons and social critiques. He should stick to what he’s good at, instead of vehemently defending the leftist dictators and treacherous regimes around the world.
By leftist dictators are you referring to Putin? He is a far right and imperialist dictator that is everything that Chomsky despises. His association with Alekandr Dugin is enough to come to that conclusion.
His critiques of the conveyance of US hegemony, the promulgation of America empire as done so, and the mis-steos along the road to greatness and well as potential downfall if not self ruination are most prescient as BOTH lessons AND warnings. One must strive not to miss the key points,. which are more well researched and read into by Chomsky moreso than by virtually anymore else; but ALSO we must not fail to discern the spirit of the message, which is that of a true patriot and humanitarian. Miss that, amongst other tremendously important aspects, AND we risk losing out altogether - especially with regards to the worthiness of one of our greatest minds and a most prolific thinker researcher author speaker and intellect. So, let us not be TOO hasty, reductionist, nor sour. It pays NOT to reject simply because One doesn't like the sound or feeling of the message. Better to consider than to shut down the discourse, debate, and synthesis. At least, for the work, the effort, the analyses - Respect.
Understanding Linguistic is very important intellectually but political views is an attempt to end human suffering
Hey it's that crazy guy who thinks muslims did 911
what the fuck are you on about
@@abegazkebede57 I'm saying he's a lying controlled opposition shill who pretends crazed Muslims did 911
sooner or later Lord Noam Chomsky will be born a girl or a boy who will churn out or better offer you the "discovery" of many mathematical and physical quantum formulas so it will be at that moment that "new languages" will be born ....... .... all thanks to GOD THE ETERNAL FATHER OUR LORD! 04/25/2020
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