I went way off track flying the 5,000km Victorian border

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  • @davefrommelbourne1237
    @davefrommelbourne1237 4 роки тому +34

    18:37 loved that ATC appreciation 👍

  • @normannutbar424
    @normannutbar424 4 роки тому +44

    North up when things are going well.
    Track up when I’m lost.

    • @spencerbright629
      @spencerbright629 4 роки тому +1

      Facts

    • @gavinedgar9464
      @gavinedgar9464 3 роки тому

      Not sure if you guys gives a damn but if you guys are stoned like me atm you can stream pretty much all the new series on Instaflixxer. I've been streaming with my girlfriend lately xD

    • @thaddeuslogan4867
      @thaddeuslogan4867 3 роки тому

      @Gavin Edgar yea, have been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself =)

  • @davidcartwright5591
    @davidcartwright5591 4 роки тому +1

    Take a breather Stef , it gets easier from here . Just keep the green stuff on your right and the blue stuff on your left side . Cheers mate and best wishes .

  • @fionnspencer4626
    @fionnspencer4626 4 роки тому +28

    I wise man once said " Don't be a Hero DO one thing at a time & DO IT WELL"

    • @dunz77
      @dunz77 4 роки тому

      I like this Unix reference.

  • @weeklymishmash6867
    @weeklymishmash6867 4 роки тому +15

    Definitely track up here. To me, it just makes the most sense. Everything on the map is in the same location as on the ground in relation to the plane.

  • @craigobrien5098
    @craigobrien5098 4 роки тому +8

    It is mental revising for exams and passing them using pens, paper, rulers, calculators, stopwatches, maps, head scratching and a compass just to download SkyDeamon on your Iphone. Great video.

  • @amaanoliyath4875
    @amaanoliyath4875 4 роки тому +30

    Im ready to binge watch this series!!!

  • @ianmooney213
    @ianmooney213 4 роки тому +8

    Ha - I use the same “they’re odd in the Eastern Subs” memory jogger! Mostly because they are odd in the Eastern Subs! And definitely North Up maps. Cant wait for Ep #3

  • @CHARLESCRANFORD
    @CHARLESCRANFORD 4 роки тому +4

    North up, but when I am "not lost" I try and orient the map to orient myself and line up some landmarks to get truly not lost, then it's back to North up. You know you are famous when the controller recognizes EYZ and says he loves the videos Steph!

  • @adriangpop
    @adriangpop 4 роки тому

    North up definitely. After a long career as an airline pilot, I can say hand on heart, the thought of "why on earth am I flying today" has been pondered on numerous occasions. This is the reason that when I quit flying I still miss the physical act of aviating but not the "being the airline pilot".

  • @johnisley4578
    @johnisley4578 4 роки тому

    A wise man once said: A man who flies should have been born with wings! "Just kidding Stef, not many of us pilots like admitting to something we stuffed up or "we were never lost, just temporarily unsure of position" etc. I love the way that you tell all and show any error that you may of made. I believe that's what makes us good pilots and shows excellent airmanship. Cruising levels are not mandatory below 5000' however should be used where practicable. I am with you on the map thingy, whether it's on paper or tablet, I'm also North up !, not that I use them much lol. I love your shows Stef, especially for those who are just learning to fly, extremely informative. Cheers John from Riddell.

  • @PureGlide
    @PureGlide 4 роки тому +1

    I've flown gliders out of Bennalla quite a bit, and the Albury airspace always seemed to get in the friggen way... The only time I have been completely disorientated in the glider was flying North from Benalla on a very hazy day, and getting to one small town, doing some thermalling circles, then coming out and realising I have no idea which way is North or South. The ground features all look the same around that area once you get away from the rivers. A very weird feeling... luckily I was allowed to use my GPS so found which way to go in the end!

  • @bradymueller7883
    @bradymueller7883 4 роки тому +9

    Great Video! It takes a good pilot to admit their mistakes and lead from them.

  • @GC987
    @GC987 4 роки тому

    Track up when going cross country (electronic maps make it so easy - with chart I alternate as required as reading upside down is just a further level of complexity). North up when thermalling (otherwise the electronic chart goes into a spin and makes me dizzy looking at it !!!). Very kind of the controller to offer an alternative reporting point. It is one of those awkward things when one is not familiar with an area and local reporting points (along with correct pronunciation !). The exercise gives me renewed respect for those WWII navigators operating in the dark & under fire. Great VLOGs. Very entertaining !

  • @MrMathewpayne
    @MrMathewpayne 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Stefan. Love the content. Just wanted to comment of your fuel testing. When you drain the fuel I noticed you smelt it, and I assume your checking for water. If you fill a used fuel drain with water and smell it it was always smell like avgas. I find filling it half way and shaking it tells me a lot more than smell. Droplets of water will stick to the sides of the tester whereas avgas will run down the sides. Just an extra safety tip in case it does happen to be all water. Safe flying my man ✈

  • @DJ99777
    @DJ99777 4 роки тому

    North up. A fun fact on the border is that an appeal to high court in 1980 ruled that the NSW jurisdiction extends to the top of the river bank on the southern side of the river when a man was shot on the bank of the river on the southern side. They ruled the shooter was in Victoria but the victim was in NSW as he was standing below the top of the river bank.

  • @marsgal42
    @marsgal42 4 роки тому +4

    Track up. Odd people fly east in Canada too. :-)
    Love the flying and the scenery. I've driven through Echuca. Had my first view of the Magellanic Clouds just south of there.

  • @sjfno1
    @sjfno1 4 роки тому

    North up for me. I think you are too hard on yourself but your honesty is refreshing...

  • @sir-jj3552
    @sir-jj3552 4 роки тому

    Wow, very interesting Leg that was. Correct me if you think my assumption is incorrect. I think the majority of your Australian subscribers, if they fly are VFR pilots and would find this a great video to watch, I have and I can't wait for the last Leg. Wonderful going old school navigation and thankful for today's technology where we have the magenta line as a tool to prove our Pilotage skill and improve, if your honest with yourself :) Good job Stef and thank you for the videos.

  • @BigglesAviator
    @BigglesAviator 4 роки тому

    Hi Stef...you close proximity passing traffic reignited my learning regarding cruising levels. Under 5000ft is the clue I think. Good refresher. Cruising level AIP ENR 1.7
    VFR flights must be flown at a cruising level appropriate to its magnetic track according to the following diagram and the table of cruising levels:
    when cruising level is 5000 ft or higher; or
    when practicable when cruising level is below 5000 ft (CAR 173).

  • @nevilletb
    @nevilletb 4 роки тому

    Just for info, Lake Mulwala at Yarrawonga is a processing weir and as such, is full at all times other than infrequent times when the water is lowered for maintenance.

  • @coenkuijpers1800
    @coenkuijpers1800 4 роки тому

    This series easily ends up in the top 5 of all the videos you’ve made and actually that’s not easy at all. Really enjoying it.

  • @scottmclennan6114
    @scottmclennan6114 3 роки тому

    Stef that lake at 4:30 is Lake Boga which used to be a Catalina flying boat base during WWII.

  • @boogerwood
    @boogerwood 2 роки тому

    Glad , of course, you’re being safe, but so much for flying by map alone! 😊

  • @daddybearlv
    @daddybearlv 4 роки тому +2

    As a controller, Northup; has a pilot track up. Also, really enjoying this series. It’s because I don’t know a lot about Australian landscape.

  • @allyboy8
    @allyboy8 4 роки тому +1

    Very, very interesting Stef! 👍👍

  • @tonyg7113
    @tonyg7113 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Stef. Another great video. After noticing a round lake in this episode I had to search the border on google to find it. Lake Boga. Actually was a flying boat base. Learnt more then I expected 👍. Thanks

  • @randc47
    @randc47 4 роки тому +3

    Def north up!
    Great video Stef.

  • @cloudsurfer6125
    @cloudsurfer6125 4 роки тому

    I definitely go for track up during navigation flights, but I always draw a compass rose next to each leg to minimize confusing about north-east-south-west :-)

  • @derkiwi151
    @derkiwi151 4 роки тому

    North up. Oh and when your country is a couple of long thin islands, the VFR cruising altitudes are based on North/South rather then East/West

  • @turorit
    @turorit 4 роки тому

    I'm a 'North Up' maps kinda guy, can't read upside down too well! Thanks for the adventure and for "keeping it real", showing your mistakes & anxious moments throughout this flight and all of your other vids, and for not being a cowboy! This Vic series reminds me of my CPL training a few years ago, plenty of map reading (before efbs were as common), "whoops" moments, and low level diversions around SA's Murray River and Yorke Peninsula. It's been nearly 2yrs since my last flight (life getting in the way), hopefully 2021 I can get back up/out there. Keep the content coming mate :)

  • @theonlywoody2shoes
    @theonlywoody2shoes 4 роки тому

    Most GPS screens (in the aircraft I fly anyway) are wider than they are tall, so if flying track up you have loads of map detail either side of you, but have to zoom out to see where it is you are going. Personally I prefer north up for this reason, especially since most of my flying in the local area is broadly east/west.
    I also keep north up with my car (Ford 2009) GPS, as it doesn’t have a compass needle on the display and my car doesn’t have a DI or standby compass on the dashboard either. I find it’s good to know your rough compass orientation as this stops you going round in circles and keeps you heading broadly in the right direction.
    Finally if you have a map book rather than a chart (e.g. in a car) i find it’s far easier to keep this north up too - keeping the book in its normal orientation, stopping the pages from randomly turning if on edge.
    Just my 2p worth from here in the U.K. Hangar doors firmly closed and all recreational flying grounded until we get out of lockdown..... sometime in 2023 probably 🤬🤬🤬

  • @keithgray7361
    @keithgray7361 2 роки тому

    I used to do a lot of hiking as a kid/youth and I hunted in some pretty wild bush. The orienteering for me was always NORTH UP for a map a compass and some landmarks. However, I found that in aviation, you don't have time to face NORTH and turn around in a fixed position with your map and compass... therefore I resorted to HEADING UP navigation. Give it a go!

  • @ReflectingMe2024
    @ReflectingMe2024 4 роки тому

    Stef - these last two videos are just fantastic! I'll never be anything but an x-plane FlightSIM pilot in my Cessna 172, but my gosh following you on your adventures is a treat. I thought one of your last video of 2020 when you said nothing was brilliant, but this trip around Victoria is wonderful. Looking forward to the final episode.

  • @milk-it
    @milk-it 4 роки тому

    Thanks for being honest, Stef. Really appreciate it! I'm about to finish my PPL, so I'm paying close attention :-).

  • @philipmead3575
    @philipmead3575 4 роки тому +6

    Track up or north up? I’ve been wondering that for a while. I prefer Track up while navigating but north up when planning

  • @JBouma-ey1jk
    @JBouma-ey1jk 4 роки тому +1

    Dude, cool series, I Have recently Flown from Albury to Bairnsdale myself, great to see another youtuber flying in Australia. Keep it up:)

  • @MattyCrayon
    @MattyCrayon 4 роки тому

    Hey mate. Fun video to watch as I'm about to pass off my RPL nav endorsement. CNAV exam next week then check ride and I should be ready to fly the boarder too 👍. Track up 😁

  • @JoeGoldman
    @JoeGoldman 4 роки тому

    I prefer North up but instructor always has me move it to track up - I just find it easier to follow north up as I don't have to keep 'adjusting' the map.

  • @yrguitar1
    @yrguitar1 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for doing this, super educational and fun to watch!

  • @guillaumefo
    @guillaumefo 4 роки тому

    Haha hot start a SR22 i don't know, but a SR20 was instructed to fuel pump in boost for 1 sec then ON, but never worked, in the end i justed ended up having the pump to ON without the boost part and slightly less than 100% mixture, worked like a charm

  • @benjaminfox7105
    @benjaminfox7105 4 роки тому

    Good Morning Stef! :-)
    Episode #2 was fantastic my friend! Well done. The things that I love about your videos is your professionalism and humility. The old adage is true, 'If in doubt, don't!'
    Keep up the great work - The scenery was awesome, particularly around Albury!
    Have a great weekend!

  • @kirstym960
    @kirstym960 4 роки тому

    North up all the way- but my friends recently discovered this on a car trip and were horrified 😂
    Great vid!

  • @Queaxed
    @Queaxed Рік тому

    I live in the controlled airspace. I’m in the town right across from it in Victoria 🎉

  • @jandtsjourney
    @jandtsjourney 4 роки тому

    Looks like you flew almost directly over the location that I pulled my Ultralight literally out of a barn, put it on a trailer and took it 800km home to regional NSW. Great stuff Stef.

  • @milnerlankow3336
    @milnerlankow3336 4 роки тому +2

    Track up for me. You can always move the map to read it. The wing camera always makes it look that you don't run the centre line n take off and landing. Enjoy your vids though.

  • @sebe6962
    @sebe6962 3 роки тому

    9:40 my golf course that I am a member at and have only played once. I live in Sydney

  • @kristofk1902
    @kristofk1902 4 роки тому

    I’ve almost gotten my nose wheel stuck in the grass, but I stopped just in time. Unfortunately I had more pushing to do but I least I would of been in the grass in which on the other side as a parking lot down a slope.

  • @chinadude07
    @chinadude07 4 роки тому

    Track up for me in Southern California. Thanks for the video!

  • @sniperxkillar5364
    @sniperxkillar5364 4 роки тому +22

    A wise man once said “it’s hard to be first, but it’s even harder to be last”

  • @lowik1973
    @lowik1973 4 роки тому

    Fun challenge. I prefer north up always, as I feel it helps my situational awareness. Can't wait to get wings again, and the gliding season is not far away here in northern Europe.

    • @StefanDrury
      @StefanDrury  4 роки тому +1

      Hope you get to go flying again soon Kim.

    • @lowik1973
      @lowik1973 4 роки тому

      @@StefanDrury Thank you Stefan

  • @gfbprojects1071
    @gfbprojects1071 4 роки тому

    I am loving these videos. Thanks very much. I am still getting my x-country nav and quickly learning that paper map orientation can be a pain in the butt whether or not you are a north-up kind of bloke. On a leg I am trying to be careful about putting the map down in the same same orientation I was last reading it. That way when I pick it up again there is less disorientation and map origami involved.

  • @spiro5327
    @spiro5327 4 роки тому

    Hey Stef, really enjoyed this one with my home made banana cake ( made with coconut flour) and my coffee. When instrument rated as you are, i guess you wouldn't be doing many VFR flights. Stop revive survive, not so easy to do when piloting an aircraft. Thank you very much mate, you have made my day.

    • @StefanDrury
      @StefanDrury  4 роки тому

      Thanks as always Spiro, yeah the visual navigation is a nice change from IFR straight lines. Enjoy the banana cake, now I’m hungry...

  • @mikenick91
    @mikenick91 4 роки тому +1

    Another fantastic video Stef, and it shows the difficulties of long navigational flights. Well done!

    • @StefanDrury
      @StefanDrury  4 роки тому +2

      Cheers Mike, thanks for watching.

  • @chriscavok1443
    @chriscavok1443 4 роки тому

    What a trip Stef! I just got back from Mildura & Robe SA in a A36.... You must go to Robe at some point!

  • @billnicholson2470
    @billnicholson2470 4 роки тому

    Well done. Looking forward to # 3.

  • @stevenbarkess7791
    @stevenbarkess7791 2 роки тому

    Brilliant series. Lovely scenery too!

  • @GeezerGeekPilot
    @GeezerGeekPilot 4 роки тому

    Stef, one of your very best videos... humility suits you well. Thanks! Wayne (DA40 KSBA)

  • @benos4x4adventures49
    @benos4x4adventures49 4 роки тому

    Hey Stef.....hope ya day has been ok mate, the weather is nasty here in South Australia Adelaide.... hope you were on the ground 👍👍👍

  • @daveslow84
    @daveslow84 4 роки тому

    Excellent video! Don't beat yourself up about it too much though... This is excellent self reflection!

  • @jackwalmsley3019
    @jackwalmsley3019 3 роки тому +1

    Anyone know why Stefan is wearing two watches?
    I just noticed them at 7:20 and was wondering what the benifits are?

    • @StefanDrury
      @StefanDrury  3 роки тому +1

      I was testing the new Garmin D2 Air on this trip, but wanted to reference my usual watch in case the D2 did something funny.

  • @benos4x4adventures49
    @benos4x4adventures49 4 роки тому

    sometimes ive heard you stef ... on the Melbourne live ATC. Awesome job 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌

  • @arokh72
    @arokh72 4 роки тому

    I've always been taught north up, but then again, I'm not in aviation, nor have ever piloted or navigated an aircraft, and thus I was taught for ground based navigation.

  • @miguelslade
    @miguelslade 4 роки тому

    Well done Stefan, looking forward very much to the next one, and any conclusions you arrive at.
    VFR harder than IFR? Etc...we have become very dependent on electronic navigation.....

  • @JayA330
    @JayA330 Рік тому

    I use north up too and I was always told 'odd people live in the east' (That dosen't sound great out of context).

  • @MorDarek
    @MorDarek 4 роки тому

    17:05 - bless you Steff!
    Great video! I really cant wait next episode. Please add some info about this flight: flight time, fuel consumed, flight distance, etc... lot of data please! ;)

  • @ukaviationofficial
    @ukaviationofficial 4 роки тому +1

    This is the highlight of the week! Keep up the great vids!

  • @garyharry7
    @garyharry7 4 роки тому +1

    Soooooooo close to 100k SUBS! Been watching since 10K

  • @RobBank1985
    @RobBank1985 4 роки тому

    “Pondage usually refers to the comparably small water storage behind the weir of a run-of-the-river hydroelectric power plant.”

    • @RobBank1985
      @RobBank1985 4 роки тому

      Also “Khancoban Pondage is a three kilometre long lake that forms part of the Snowy Mountains Hydro Scheme and around its foreshores lays the town of Khancoban, a town built specifically to house the workers of the Snowy Mountains Scheme, which commenced in 1949. “

  • @ianwilson6751
    @ianwilson6751 4 роки тому

    Excellent again!...thank you... track up

  • @sunshinecatcher8779
    @sunshinecatcher8779 4 роки тому

    Love it, technology sometimes basics are so much better

  • @truevegas
    @truevegas 4 роки тому

    Loved the long haul vids Stef. So inspirational. Can't wait to start lessons this year and you're a huge part of that. Thanks so much for all the great vids. Hope to share a coffee with you at an airport one day 👍🏻

  • @teddynebel
    @teddynebel 4 роки тому

    Track up for xc and north up for local flying

  • @palic24413
    @palic24413 4 роки тому

    Great trip, enjoyed the videos(trip no.1 and trip no.2), can’t wait for the episode no.3😃👍🏻

  • @ChaleGameOver
    @ChaleGameOver 4 роки тому

    I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work!

  • @AudioTones67
    @AudioTones67 4 роки тому +8

    18:57 - where's that centreline? ; )

    • @mykalhenry
      @mykalhenry 4 роки тому +2

      "I'm just gonna put her down right here"

    • @EdTLive
      @EdTLive 4 роки тому +2

      Camera hanging off the right wing

  • @Formula1Fail84
    @Formula1Fail84 4 роки тому +2

    If you were to change the callsign of EYZ...what would it be??

  • @Self37
    @Self37 4 роки тому

    I heard you on 135.7 on the 20th of Jan. You were near YMAV :)

  • @StjepanNikolic
    @StjepanNikolic 4 роки тому

    Hemispherical flying below 5000ft is not mandatory. AIP ENR 1.7-5, para 3.1.4. But yeah, I wouldnt fly at exactly 500ft level. Great journey! Well done and thanks for sharing.

  • @darcyw5586
    @darcyw5586 4 роки тому

    Gotta love getting confused and making those ‘cockups’. Great video Stef.

    • @shykitten55
      @shykitten55 4 роки тому

      James May (Top Gear) kind of used that term a bit too.

  • @mikeyswingsacrossthesky2244
    @mikeyswingsacrossthesky2244 4 роки тому

    Cockups a daily event..........."its 25 degrees here" and I am watching the snow falling! I live in Nottingham locked down no flying allowed. If possible flying Nottingham border not far and because of the airspace not probable to fly the border! Great series Stef, looking forward to the next one

  • @tyronevanwyk3652
    @tyronevanwyk3652 4 роки тому

    Great video. Thanks again. I prefer track up. How I suppose I was taught with a map as well if needed.

  • @OscarHines
    @OscarHines 4 роки тому

    Great video! It’s alright if you veer off course, as long as your being safe, and following procedure. :)

  • @TheNixie1972
    @TheNixie1972 4 роки тому

    Great! Enjoy flying with you. Eager for part 3.

  • @coppi60
    @coppi60 4 роки тому

    Good job mate!!

  • @nickhart5332
    @nickhart5332 4 роки тому

    Great stuff mate!

  • @grantchristensen
    @grantchristensen 4 роки тому

    North up as well

  • @ollu19
    @ollu19 4 роки тому

    Defenetly north up. Great content! Keep up the great work!

    • @StefanDrury
      @StefanDrury  4 роки тому

      Yeah, Team North 👍 Thanks Oliver

  • @mjotd8670
    @mjotd8670 4 роки тому +1

    Great series of video's Stef, at what height do you start thinking about on-board oxygen?

    • @StefanDrury
      @StefanDrury  4 роки тому +3

      Thanks for following the adventure. During the day I’d only use oxygen above 10,000’. I have a pulse oximeter to measure my blood oxygen saturation levels at any time though. But I don’t think I’ve ever used O2 below 10K.

  • @benos4x4adventures49
    @benos4x4adventures49 4 роки тому

    safe flying mate....

  • @HyoRidaamotovlogs
    @HyoRidaamotovlogs 4 роки тому

    North up all the way. thats what i was taught anyway. (unless im lost and need to orientate to look for features haha). awesome episode mate! Also odds and evens are only required by law above 5000ft, it IS good pratice, however, to do it below

  • @davevanbeers6944
    @davevanbeers6944 4 роки тому

    Awesome flight!

  • @GiuseppeBasile
    @GiuseppeBasile 4 роки тому

    Nice one Stef, looking forward to episode 3

    • @StefanDrury
      @StefanDrury  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching Guiseppe. The conclusion to the trip coming soon...

  • @SpeedyCM
    @SpeedyCM 4 роки тому

    Track up, makes it easier for navigating.

  • @seanmcerlean
    @seanmcerlean 4 роки тому

    Spectacular views Stefan & a great video.
    Tell you what this VFR nav thing is hard work & i can tell you one or two stories from my ppl course on solo cross country round the south east of england 😊
    P.s. i was taught track up method on the 1/2 mil.

    • @StefanDrury
      @StefanDrury  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Sean, yeah I was always told "track up" by my instructors but I just prefer North up on a paper map. GPS is different, that's always track-up. But paper (where the written place names don't rotate) I prefer North up.

    • @seanmcerlean
      @seanmcerlean 4 роки тому

      @@StefanDrury good point otherwise you are always turning the chart to read names.

  • @seaneubanks1766
    @seaneubanks1766 4 роки тому

    Great video... keep them coming.

  • @colinelder8603
    @colinelder8603 4 роки тому

    Great trip Stef, track up for me !

  • @LoboLakerGaming
    @LoboLakerGaming 4 роки тому

    If only a SR22 was as much as a Civic. Looks so fun.

  • @StefBelgium
    @StefBelgium 4 роки тому

    I personnaly always fly map North up 😊 awesome flight that requires quire a bit of endurance and concentration. Congrats! Damn, Australia has so much scenic points to visit. Love it 😍
    Stay and fly safe Stef!
    Question: may be due to local Australian rules but you still need to fly the even/odd rules even below 3000'?

  • @tophatter15
    @tophatter15 4 роки тому

    Bloody interesting ( again). Thank you Sir. Cheers.