Comparing Logseq and Obsidian
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- Опубліковано 20 січ 2022
- I tried using Logseq browser and an app version for a week instead of my normal Obsidian vault and this is what I found.
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Logseq users, if there is anything you think I missed do let me know in the comments!
Logseq is free to use and sync in all device.
@@vaevictis3905 true but to my knowledge doesn't have offline functions...
@@DannyHatcherTech I love Obsidian too, but now Logseq with the beta android app is more then enough for me. ✌️
Love your vids tho! 😉
@@DannyHatcherTech Eh? What have I missed here? Logseq is mainly an application to be used offline. There's a browser version, but that can access local data.
If you embed blocks the child blocks are not visible in obsidian
I do like this back and forth question and answer style
Thanks Steve, there is science behind it which is one of the reasons I changed, alongside them being fun to make 😁 Will be sharing the educational science behind the decision in an upcoming video at some point.
True! Very entertaining.
It's insufferable.
For me Obsidian maximized a problem that I have spending hours and hours hunting and configuring plugins, this is a HUGE black hole for me.
In logseq, everything is simpler, leaner and helped me focus on what really matters.
Interesting perspective. Tha ks for sharing. They were a big question for me until I realised I didn't need any. I only use 4 because of really specific things.
This was my biggest appeal. Love obsidian but Logseq interests me because quite a few of the features I like are integrated in the core app without the use of plugins.
@@CCV334 I don't think community plugins are needed at all to work in Obsidian. The core plugins give you flexibility but again not all are needed.
@@DannyHatcherTech Some of these "core plugins" were community plugins one time =) It's really cool, that community can develop such natural things for app.
can't agree more
Am definitely digging this format. Refreshing to see a different style of video on UA-cam!
In Logseq I somehow don't have to think about organizing, while in Obsisian all I do is thinking about organizing....
Not sure why as they are very similar in feature set, but we are all different
because logseq doesnt use folder
@@MuhammadArnaldobut you also don't need to use folders in your Obsidian Vault. You van even disable the core folder plugin if you want to
Enjoyed all 400 seconds of it. Thanks for quick comparison man
I think I have to rethink my workflow. I am not sure if I want to use one app for both note taking and task management. I will be thinking over it over the weekend. Thanks for your inputs though.
Short and snappy this one. I personally like to keep them in one place as much as I can but everyone works different.
I use both apps. I use Logseq for my fleeting thoughts, initial note-taking, activity log and outlining. I use Obsidian for my evergreen notes and as one of my main writing apps. I like that they're both Markdown and that you can use the same folder/vault to store both sets of files in! 😀
That workflow does make sense! The fact they are both markdown is massive.
@@DannyHatcherTech that it is! 👍
How do you get rid of bullet points from Lq when you open the file in Obsidian?
@@goranstoja you either manually remove each or use the hotkey. Highlight all sentences and push the hotkey 😁
@@goranstoja I haven't really found a way to do that, to be honest!
Thank you for this fast overview! Very helpful for all undecided.
Glad I could shed some light on the comparison 😁
Logseq does have aliases, it is “alias” and not aliases. It also doesn’t use the pipe ‘|’ operator when referring the alias. Just mention the page name or any of the alias using [] brackets and it will link it
Ah thankyou! I couldn't find anything in the discord about it 😁
Thank you for this, I was about to comment I cannot live without aliases 😅
Fabulous review !! I like the speed and the back and forth. Thanks.
Fair comparison. I lean towards Logseq over Obisidian as my daily outliner: notes, tasks, basic stuff like that. They definitely appeal to different folks. Logseq queries and tasks provide a firmer base for in-page scripting (I've set up my tag pages with a template to show related tasks). Obsidian absolutely *can* do that, but you need a plugin to come up with anything meaningful for the query / task management. If that's the sort of thing you even want to do.
It's all perspective. You see a thing in Logseq, and go "I just have to install a plugin to get the same thing in Obsidian." I see the same thing and think "ugh I have to find and install and learn who knows how many plugins in Obsidian if I want something like that."
Very good points. Tasks in the notes app, logseq is certainly more useful!
Queries have never found a place in my workflow 🤷♂️
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 😁
this may be a dumb question but what do you use queries for? what's their function?
They are essentially filtered searches. 😁
There's often some layout / organizational element (ex: show specific attributes of the results in a table), but yep they are effectively filtered searches.
That emotional entry is embodiment of me when I discover a new tool to play with. I love LogSeq but Obsidian just claims me more and more over time.
Yeah, exactly the reason I went for it. Just mimics how I feel to start with, then a couple days later....
Gotta say I loved the way you did this video, straight to the point and fun.
Awesome 👌
Danny strolling in hyped up, then Danny sitting down shoots him down. These bits are my favorite 😂
Yep, my life sometimes when I find a new shiny thing aha.
Oh my god!! 😱 Your eye!!! 😱You mentioned in one of your last videos something going on, but I hope it is better than it looks like ... btw nice video! Using logseq, cause I like the daily notes page and overall ux. But I always looking over to obsidian since the beginning. Also quite tempting.
Yeah it is much better now. Been 2 weeks since surgery 😁
Logseq is a great tool and it will always come down to personal preference 😅
I like the fact that you keep your tasks separate in Todoist. What about non actionable reference items like articles or Screenshots?
I currently use Instapaper for storing reference articles/videos, and OneDrive for files but I am wondering if Obsidian would be a good substitute for those two in order to keep everything in one place and contribute to the network of knowledge.
I am now using Morgen instead of todoist but similar function.
All sources are in obsidian except pdf articles which are in zotero.
The reasons I choose Logseq ⬇:
- block referencing (it is fantastic and also I can change any block and it still works, not like in Obsidian)
- task management (and filtering references which Obsidian doesn't has)
- stability (don't like Obsidian`s politics to have ~ 400 plugins to reach same functionality - date picker, pdf , UA-cam , zoom , outline , etc... )
- tabs for multiple pages (it is a way better than Obsidian "Andy Matushak" mode for small screens)
- Logseq`s team fixed my issue for 1-2 weeks (with Russian Cyrillic language problem) and it was not very obvious
- I can open the same graph using Logseq so many times as I want (so many Windows of the same graph)
- also Logseq is developing Real Time Collaboration .... Wow!
- also Pdf embedding is much much ( I can swap blocks as I like by drag and dropping them)
So .... It is my opinion and my workflow that suits for me :)
This sounds perfect for you. My workflow sounds very different as all the positives you bring up are negatives to me 😅
I only use a couple of community plugins, the core plugins I see as setting options 🤷♂️
- yes block refrencing is still good for logseq(but the way to create block reference is better in obsidian according to me)
-there is a(like 3 plugins depending on your need) plugin for task management(very good one)
-what's wrong with having different plugins for different functionality you can have any one when you need it you don't need all of them. It's like making your own system and not having anyone to send you a prebuilt system
-Obsidian also has a tabs plugin(tip download pane relief to quickly switch between tabs with just a hotkey very quick and swappy)
- also there are many css which you might like better like masonry mode.
-obsidian has almost negligible issues(and I think none for you to be bothered and if exists then tell it we will get it sorted)
- can be done in obsidian you can open as many graphs you want.
- I think obsidian will also work on it but this time logseq will win creating it first
- the pdf is the feature which has forced me go to try logseq again 5 times(yes there are plugins in obsidian for that also but, the logseq one is better)
Both of them are great apps, and I think if logseq would be more stable it must have been better. 👍
@@lakshaymission548 Great comparison! Pane relief plugin and plugins for task management were what I needed. You are almost convinced me to switch 😄. At least I will try Obsidian again considering your comment 👍🏻👍🏻.
Wait, the Russian Cyrillic problem was on obsidian or loqseq?
Thank you Danny!
Question: have you found a comfortable way to use Logseq PDF annotation on a tablet?
No. I think tools on tech would be a better person to ask.
I’m using Logseq primarily because of the outliner, which is a form factor that causes me to be more succinct in my writing. This also means that Logseq’s UI feels less cluttered than other note apps. I’m still trying to figure out how to best use the app, but I’m resisting the habit of dropping long quotes and other related contact.
When you say outliner I assume you refer to mouse drag and drop features?
@@DannyHatcherTech, sorry, I’m referring to bullet pages, which yes can be dragged up and down in a section.
@@MacAutomationTips ah, I use keyboard shortcuts to move points up and down.
I don't use bullets all the time but do the same with them.
@@DannyHatcherTech , yeah the bullets remind me not to use Logsec for long form writing. I also use the keyboard shortcuts but when my hand is already on my trackpad, I use the drag function. I also tried Obsidian about year or so go, but I felt too cluttered. I'm going to stick with Logsec for a while. The journal feature is great for fleeting notes and program on projects.
@@MacAutomationTips stick with what works !
Can you select and perform an actoj multiple items from the search results in Obsidian ?
Say I do a search and get 100 notes in the results. I notice that 50 of the notes are duplicates from previous import.
Can I select 50 of those notes from the search results and delete them?
I don't know but you can bulk delete files so know you can in the file plugin (core).
one important one not mentioned: logseq is FOSS, and obsidian team might rugpull if the time has come. rugpull sounds mean. i mean they can start monetizing their software more than they do now. they could slowly introduce a reduced free tier or make certain feature exclusive to "premium" users. logseq can keep up with obsidian if just more people use it.
FOSS > FS
As far as I know, the developers of logsec are already working on a pro version.
I'm just learning about all this for the first time. When I open Obsidian, in the left hand column I see a list of folders I can manipulate and put notes in. I think it would be useful to have this traditional folder structure to complement the note linking Obsidian allows uses.I don't see a similar folder list in Logseq, so is that a feature unique to Obsidian?
The feature isn't unique I don't think, but see it in logseq I am unsure about.
I kind of like that Logseq won't let you have folders haha. They say logseq forces you to work in a particular way where as Obsidian is more flexible.
Thanks for making this video and stopping me from trying every new tool that comes out. I love LogSeq but I just don't wanna move around tools like a manic. Moving from Notion to Obsidian was pain in itself.
Aha I feel you. The beginning of this video was me when I first heard about the tool 😅
@@DannyHatcherTech I need your advice on managing PDFs in Obsidian. As part of my work, I have to read and store research reports and docs and I just store each research pdf on its own note while the attachments live in their own folder. This feels highly inefficient way of doing this.
@@spoiledsponge4511 That sounds similar to me. I have a page in obsidian for my notes from the PDF and then store the PDF in a folder that is in the vault so I can open the pDF in obsidian if I want.
Most of my PDF work is in adobe acrobat so it more there for a quick check rather than work.
My obsidian publish shows it in the summary pages.
@@DannyHatcherTech Thanks for sharing. I think I would have eventually arrived at this solution but it's good not having to reinvent the wheel. Thanks for sharing. Really appreciate it.
@@spoiledsponge4511 took me a while to figure it out but it gives me all the features I want from obsidian and the storage of my PDFs.
Thank you for a real opinion piece and then backing it up with swift on point explanations! 🎉
Having people say "whatever suits your style" isnt always the best to form my own opinion. I was seeing your strong points and found i didnt see them the same way and have found out the most important info: that i can use the same folders to simply use both for a while.
Does anyone know the community plugin that will recognize headings in bullets referred to at 3:55 of the video?
there a couple zoom is the one I was referring to hear.
Really helpful thank you so much
😁🧡
How would you comment on the license issue with Obsidian? it is not open source and require $50/user/year for commercial usage.
Think about it: a big chunk of the users install/use the software at home and they get the habit to use it, but they can't use the software in the office due to the license issue.
I know a lot users are student and they can use the Obsidian for free, but once they find a job, they have to pay the ridiculously expensive fee for the use of the software if they want use it in the office.
On the other hand, LogSeq is open source and totally free, meaning you may use it in the office (or any other environments) without limitations.
If feature set is the similar between both software, I suggest go with the LogSeq!
Obsidian sucks big on this, and I will never try it due to this limitation.
I am not in that situation so can't comment much apart from my belief in that you should pick the tool that works for you 🤷♂️😁
How can they enforce these license requirements though?
Awesome video!!
Thankyou 😁
Great video, gave it a like, understand that Obsidian is a REALLY good choice, but sticking with Logseq: it's genuinely free, easy to learn, and is packed with great features (for me, a Cloze is often better than a flashcard - quick, easy, and an accurate prompt for EXACTLY what you want to remember). I don't want fluff in my notes, and bullet points prompt me to quickly work out what's important. Extra info is indented below. Pace of Logseq development is impressive (the beta Android app is now good for example). Finally, I thought hard before choosing Logseq, and I don't want to be chopping and changing when what I have is already very good.
Certainly, stick with something that works for you!
The one reason I changed from Obsidian to Logseq is the license. Obsidian you can use for personal project only and the main benefit for me in using a markdown based linking system with backlinks ect. is using it in a work environment. Obsidian does not allow this without paying for a license. Might not be a big deal for many but for me it is reason enough.
With the fact that, for me, the features Logseq has are good enough, makes it an easy choice for me.
I am curious what you mean by work?
@@DannyHatcherTech I mean literally using it at work for work related content. Company's, clients, co-workers, project management, ect.
@@jeroenophetweb5891 ah I'm with you, makes total sense and I would do the same thing.
@@jeroenophetweb5891 I want to use logseq at work too, but I am very concerned about data privacy. Can you please provide details on why it is safe to use logseq at work?
Privacy is something I am not familiar with apart from local files as I work from home. I will leave it to those that know 😁
I am extremely new to these knowledge base things and I found obsidian and logseq trying to find a note taking app, and currently I use logseq since it was confusing going through obsidian's menus and logseq was more intuitive and at its default state looked more pleasing to me. I might try figuring out obsidian again after this video
I am biased, but I think Obsidian has more features, a larger community of support and more flexibiility when it comes to uses for the tool. Especially with the semi-recent addition of canvas.
@@DannyHatcherTech I think I figured some stuff about Obsidian so I can actually start using it, and I found out that Logseq and Obsidian can be used at the same time on the same vault thing, so I will be trying to use both interchangeably to see what I am more comfortable with
@@gravityshark580 sounds good.
The apps use different languages so some things wont transfer directly but all basic text will.
A vault is just the main folder in Obsidian.
Well thought out and performed. Thank you. I tried both, and went Obsidian. The feature that almost sold me on Logseq was the automatic parenting based on indent level, but from what I understood that came from the block referencing....which is not compatible with Obsidian or markdown standard.
Thankyou. Shorter than normal but still included everything
Where are plugins found in Logseq for Android?
As I don't use logseq I am not sure - sorry.
what a superb video, thanks!
Thank you
I don't agree with a lot of your videos but you're so massively entertaining and engaging as a speaker that I end up watching anyway.
I wouldnt want everyone to agree. Glad you found it enjoyable 😁
I do use LogSeq for my university note (2 years using LogSeq), but lately I've trying out Obsidian for 2 modules.
From what I've gathered this year, Obsidian it's better in all measures.
The only two thing I miss from LogSeq is the TODO, DONE, DOING, etc workflow. That I always found really helpful. And the way LogSeq can reference specific text/images/anything in PDF.
But besides those two, obsidian from me wins in every thing else. Is just a question of finding the right plug ins that do the function mentioned above.
i love the format of this video, almost socratic :D
Thanks 😁
I have had Obsidian installed for quite a long time and it was just another note taking app. I did understand it can do links, but didn't really grasp what I could use them for. Since LogSeq comes with workflow (simply said) I immediately understood the potential and took off like a rocket with my note taking. Like I was waiting for LogSeq 20 years. I do understand (now) Obsidian has the features too, but it didn't "sell" them to me in a form of reliable working workflow.
Flashcards are implemented in Obsidian via plugin, which is actually better than flashcards, since you can use any normal note as flashcard, not only the ones crafted to be so. At least, that's what it seemed to me
I assume you are referring to the spaced reptition plugin which has made massive strides since this video was made.
@@DannyHatcherTech don't get me wrong, I wasn't criticizing your video, but the difference now in flashcards support 😊
I started with obsidian. I used to like it but i stopped taking notes digitally at all. then I switched to emacs and org-roam it was better in every way. the only draw back is video note taking. but its not for the average user unfortunately. i stopped taking notes for a while. and started with logseq now. I like that it resembles org mode. its not as customizable. I like the cards. and the pdf worklflow. (emacs had it too)
Everyone has their preferences 😁
Kindly make a video comparing both the apps with RemNote. Thank you!
RemNote to my knowledge is similar to Logseq with better flashcards. Obsidian beats both for most my use cases. 😁
What I don't like about the logseq is the fact that it is all about "block". To me, it is not easy to recall notes. For example, let's say I want to recall "Term A", which is created in "Page 1".
Obsidian: [[Page 1 #Term A]]
Logseq: (()) search and cross finger.
I agree. Being block based has some pro's but for me there are too many con's 🤷♂️
Great Video
Thankyou 😁
I am currently using both of them, but I am experiencing some issues with Obsidian. I moved over 35,000 files, which is causing the app to load very slowly on both mobile and desktop. I am not sure if Logseq would have the same issue.
When you say load slowly are you referring to the cache load screen or the syncing load?
Obsidian needs to have the files 'loaded' so it can search appropriately.
I have tested vaults with 100,000+ files with ~10,000 words in each with no issues.
@@DannyHatcherTech Yes, l am referring to the cache load screen, which takes around 15 seconds to load. I understand that this may not be considered slow for some users, but it is adding friction to my note-taking process. I also wanted to try out Obsidian Sync for those +35k files, but I was taking a long time to sync, so I stopped that for the meantime.
@@jorge210594 hmm, might be worth asking in the discord about it.
I know it can take a couple seconds but 15 is longer than I have experienced.
@@DannyHatcherTech Thanks for the recommendation. Those 100k vaults you have work with only take around 2 seconds to load?
@@jorge210594 I haven't tested it recently.
It is a test vault, my actual vault isn't that large.
I've used Obsidian for a while (6-12 months) and someone mentioned Logsec and I've only been trying it today, I love the Asset Folder and adding images/files to the folder, love UA-cam vids showing up as vids in the page . I agree Journal not really my thing.
Don’t like the no- folder for pages .
I've been using Kanban in Obsidian and the kanban plugin in Logsec is a bit crude.
From first play I agree Obsidian seems to be further along the development curve and Logsec has added items by default such as spell checker and copying files/images to asset folder (rather than manual move in Obsidian
I'm currently trying to connect to my Google Calendar in Logsec. I like to only have one calendar rather than each program having its own (eg Notion, etc ) so being able to have one way sync means that I only have to go to one place to get events/appointments.
I like the Tabs (plugin), Recent & Favorite folders in Logsec, I did find having to specifically have the recent plugin for Obsidian for getting recent notes a pain, it should be part of the core program, as should spell checker.
After a day of play there are definite positives to Logsec and I may consider going down the track of having them point to the same folder and using both.
Great video, appreciate you doing the research on the topic. Thank you
kind regards
Thanks for such a great comment.
I did notice you mentioned the assests folder. You can have images go to that folder in Obsidian by default in the files & links settings.
The core of Obsidian is adding features that remove the need for community plugins but adding a community plugin isn't the end of the world of course.
Many of the community plugins go beyond what Obsidian could do on it's own due to development power. 🤷♂
@@DannyHatcherTech
Hi Danny, thanks for response. As you have tried both and are firmly in the Obsidian camp, that’s your preference.
I think both programs have their strengths and weaknesses.
Using Logsec for one day had a couple of features I enjoyed that seemed to solve some of the irritating things of Obsidian. One that I did not mention before was spellcheck inbuilt in core of Logsec, and I was having difficulty in getting the plugin to work in Obsidian.
I've decided to fence sit at this point and am building a Folder/Vault that I'm linking both Logsec and Obsidian to.
I'll have to change some of the methods I use in Obsidian to make that work but I think that both programs have their strengths so worth seeing if using them combined works or if it makes one shine out over the other.
I may re-post later here after I've tried.
I do find it interesting that 2 completely different programs of a similar nature can integrate at all, I suppose that is the beauty of the markdown filetype and the graph database backend. As long as the coding syntax does not clash too much then you can use both.
I've got to setup 2 hotkeys one for Obsidian and one for Logsec so that I open the appropriate program to work on a note.
One thing I liked in Obsidian was the folder subdirectories to order my files, which Logsec doesn't have on first glance, so I need to do a refresh on the database to find those files in subdirectories (or maybe not use subdirectories?). An ongoing learning experience.
Thanks for your video, it has prompted me to explore the two programs more thoroughly.
kind regards
Totally understandable.
As someone in my notes app most hours of the day I have had plenty of time to fiddle 😆
Hahaha!!! LOVE the creativity
Glad you enjoyed it. I love talking to myself 😅
Open source is the biggest selling point of Logseq.
I'll never trust Obsidian until its open source.
Yes I know you can import md files anywhere, but where?
Not sure what you need to trust as all files are local?
I am also unclear what you mean by 'where to import md files'
Obsidian for the win.... well who knows, maybe years hence logseq will beat it... but for now. I agree. and BOTH are local markdown, so with effort we can switch. one negative about obsidian is that it comes (intentionally) with batteries not included. e.g. hot keys are not defined, and even very basic features like text folding dont work out of the box. but with a bit of work, it can really SING for you. and programming your own hot key scheme allows it to be optimized for yourself.
Completely agreed!
it's been a year now, and the graph is still flickering #bugs #logseq #please_fix
well this is the next question. searching for the code source I saw Obsidian is free to use but not open source as Loqseq. So no way to see code source for obsidian.
That is correct. In the Obsidian discord there is lots of discussion about the source code and developer tools etc for community plugins but I don't know enough to comment to much 😁
Who create Logseq??
Don't know 🤷♂️
Dziękujemy.
Glad I could help!
Big ouch: Obsidian is closed source.
Regarding LogSeq: The non-optional "everything is a bulletpoint" approach is the one major thing that unfortunately totally spoils it for me personally. I can't see me typing shift+enter for almost every single line as a workaround. And even with that it makes for my desires messed up markdown files where even the top level is a bulletpoint dash with all the text indented by a few spaces.
Less major critique points:
★ visual clustering is IMO bad
(as of 2022-02) e.g. page and backlinks are IMO not well spacially seperated - feels a bit like a wall of text word soup
★ structural editing aspects feel jumpy and not as intuitive as could be
Great comment and I 👍
@@DannyHatcherTech
Sidenote: I've used zim-wiki for the past few years. Hope there'll soon be a dedicated import option for obsidian. - Discovered obsidian only about one week ago and was totally blown away.
@@mechadense not heard of zim wiki before.
The obsidian Community probably have a solution.
If you can change the file type to md your gold 😁
@@DannyHatcherTech
Only advantage of zim-wiki over obsidian is that it's open source. Otherwise it's inferior on many fronts. Zim does have an md export option (says pandoc md). But it's somewhat different from obsidians md format it seems judging from my first try. Maybe I try going over html, or I wait, or I try writing a converter myself worst case.
@@mechadense I use pandoc to turn md files to docx files so I would imagine there is a transfer that works there somewhere.
Forgot to mention Logseq is open source and supports org files ?
I am not sure if Open source is a good thing or not. it seems to make development challenging as the tool grows with different developers starting and stopping.
@@DannyHatcherTech Good point. This is my first day using logseq I use emacs and obsidian. Not as intuitive as obsidian. Will have to mess with it more later to figure things out, for now going back to emacs. I was looking for a good knowledge based app that supports org files. Logseq looks promising. Thanks for the video.
@@DannyHatcherTech But Obsidian is built, a lot, around plugins, so is not the same at the end ? But it's a nice way to learn more about javascript. I've already started today (again). Notion has an advantage in the achievement of tools. e.g around markdown. And that's doing a lot of hidden enhancements. In obsidian this is quite a mess and you spend a lot of time. It reminds me Blender 3D, which is open source. the system of shortcuts in Obsidian is excellent. I will try to do a plugin to put together all the main operation on markdowns under ctr [1-9] and shift ctrl [1-9]. Maybe in few months.... for the moment I could do it with 2 plugins and a lot of tricky manipulations.
I use 2 plugins, maybe 3 in future. 1 I rarely use. Most my use cases are in the native app.
@@rytif I use lots of community plugins now but my main use is all core plugins.
There is no crux community plugin for me. They just help here and there.
lolzDouble!! :)
such a foreign workflow relative to Obsidian I already know...
😁
Dear Danny
I have worked on both apps.
I am trying to use logseq for consuming information and Obsidian to create new knowledge.
I strongly believe in hierarchical thinking and have used workflowy at one time.
I even saw the 2023 video on both apps.
I can switch to obsidian completely but there is just one issue.
I like the native PDF reader in logseq. Suppose I am reading a book, all indented in chapters and we can add reference to a pdf. Other that copy and paste text it can link to text and open the PDF if later I am reading content and want to see the reference of a statement.
Is something available on obsidian to offer the same. As there is no compatibility between both apps with this feature.
I tried to use markmind plugin which is reasonably priced. But I think obsidian is lagging behind in referencing a PDF. Logseq offers a lot of features native. I hope you will come up with a video to address the issue.
There are a few different options. I use Zotero for my PDF management and use the Zotero integration plugin to import highlights.
The annotator plugin does a good job inside the app.
@@DannyHatcherTech thanks
I was expecting a quick reply from you.
I do use Zotero for my academic papers.
I had some trouble with annotator plug-in. May be you can share a video of yours.
Request to make a detailed video for markmind plugin. It is paid but the fee is nominal
@@DannyHatcherTech Once you store a lot of PDFs on Zotero you will need to pay for it. Is there a work around. Or do you recommend to take monthly subscription of Zotero
@@DannyHatcherTech I still hope some day there will be a plugin for cross compatibility and I will be able to use both tools.
Hoping a markmind detailed video from you soon.
Thanks a lot
@@DrPuneetGupta there are some plugins working on that, I shared one recetly in a recap (cant remeber the name right now - note share maybe)
Logseq: Org mode format support
Obsidian: [crickets]
I think Bas spoke about Org mode in the recent live stream. Is that the new edit like text option?
I think the most import thing is the block reference and back link.
Backlinking is done in the same way to my knowledge, and I don't like block referencing at all so the logseq referencing doesn't aid my workflow at all.
That is me though.
Amazing comparison video. I am literally just that one guy that wonders why the heck people do something worse than something that already exists. It just wastes our time for having to watch comparison videos and migrations. Logseq wasted more time then it saved.
obsidian is more powerful than logseq a a knowledge base management. logseq is more of a task management, ideas and memoir/reminder. obsidian can do what logseq can do, but it would be like using complex machines just to move a bottle from one place to another.
Logseq is free for commercial use, whereas Obsidian is only free for personal use. I don't want to have to try to convince my employer to get a licence, and some of my notes straddle the grey area between work and personal. So it is Logseq for me.
I am not familiar with the commercial licensing. Not sure why you need/dont need a license for commercial use.
I feel a bit lost. I moved from Notion to RemNote, then to Obsidian and now I find Logseq very attractive. I should decide right away where to stay.
All apps work, just in different ways. I stuck with Obsidian due to the community, developers and customization.
@@DannyHatcherTech So far the app I've been able to get the most flow in my writing is Obsidian, but I've found Logseq to be quite interesting. It took me a while to begin to feel comfortable building my ideas in Obsidian in a way I never did in Notion or any other app, but what attracts me most about Logseq are the easy plugins. I found Obsidian's plugins very confusing.
@@thaissacosta2884 I don't use the plugins in obsidian, what do you want?
@@DannyHatcherTech I wanted to use the Hypothesis plugin in Logseq and on the Obsidian plugins page I didn't see anything like it.
I'm not going to judge Obsidian's plugin area too much because I'm starting to look more into it now and for now I'm a very basic user.
@@DannyHatcherTech I have some folders in Obsidian and not just documents, this is the point that is stopping me from really trying to use Logseq. I guess I need to think that there will always be many apps for notes and I don't need more than one.
Obsidian has a mobile App. For me the best thing to take quick and smart notes On the way
Yeah, I use the mobile app everyday
Loqseq Android is in beta already. Open source over closed source anyday
Backlink is FAR MORE USEFUL in Logseq than Obsidian. Especially when you are using formulas or formatted texts involved (including outliner). Obsidian’s view is a mess while Logseq renders everything PERFECTLY
Could you be more specific with your thoughts?
The backlinks in Obsidian are shown with minimal or maximum context wherever you want. I don't see how that makes it a mess.
Maybe we are linking in different ways, but I don't see anything that logseq can link which Obsidian can't so am unsure where you uses come from.
Obsidian is not open source, which is huge. If you want security and would want to make sure Obsidian is not stealing your notes, than Loqseq wins! One strange thing happened was that, I had Obsidian running with custom Obsidian plugin, which had just alert in the code, as soon as I started Logseq that plugin's alert message start to popup and would not stop, not sure what is going on. I suspect that some sort of file manager watcher was picking up on changes made by Logsec. Not 100% but very strange.
Not sure what you mean by Obsidian stealing notes as notes are local storage for both. The only way Obsidian can change your notes without you is a community plugin which you allow access by turning off safe mode, or sync which the developers don't have access to.
Logseq and Obsidian are not entirely compatible when updates are pushed by either side so it could be conflict there but all community plugins have limitations as they don't stay up to date with the core version often. I can't say much more on that but the benefits for Obsidian far outweight the benefits of Logseq for me.
Copying and reading your notes is probably the more apt term. They are suggesting that because Obsidian isn't open source that there is no guarantee that they're not sending and reading the notes you make over the net. Whether that as a potential privacy issue matters is up to the individual.
Wouldn't that require an upload of some kind which is either through sync/remote pushing of files...
@@DannyHatcherTech Not sure what you mean but Obsidian has plugin system. Once the plugin is installed, it is very easy for it to pull any payloads. If you look at the AppImage, it is running without any restrictions, as far as I can tell.
@@codingblues3181 that is the community plugins, which you don't have to use.
There is Internet fetching for features but nothing out of the ordinary for an app from what I can tell.
The othe community plugins are checked by the Obsidian team.
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After watching this biased video, I feel I must start exploring Logseq first and ignore Obsidian for a while. Thanx :)
Sounds good to me.