Adam Adam Adam, Ben is only flashy, Nas was flashy but he KO’d dominated these low ranked fighters. Knew he would lose against decent opposition. Like Jake Fraud would lose when he fights an actual boxer
To be honest, he has only had a handful of bouts, and it was too early a step up. This gonna be the only issues going forward, big turki wants a fight to happen, it will happen. Regardless of the experience of each fighter.
@@Leon-y2gGood point. As much as we love Turki, fighters who have potential but are not quite there yet need to be careful, because Turki wants tough fights. Matchmaking needs to be very careful with these guys. For example, Wardley/Ckarke. Personally I don’t think Clarke was ready yet for that fight, and got rushed into it. Now has ended up with a bad injury.
Ben quittiker!!!! The silence from bens team is embarrassing!!! He knows clearly what he was doing!!! Guys a fraud and been found out 1 million percent he won’t do rematch with liam
Because he won't join the mob and maintains respect for the fighters? I know everyone's salivating at the prospect of laughing at Whittaker but Smith is right. No-one knows for sure how badly he hurt himself, but everyone's talking like they were there at ringside.
Most hyped guy from the crop of 2020 Olympic fighters, yet he's achieved the least compared to his teammates who have fought at higher level/some even at world title already. I said for longest, he's built on American tiktok/social media 20 second clip hype. Even if he hadn't lost, if those 3m insta fans he had tuned in for full fight they'd be bored right away. Hype job.
Yes because when you’re pumped on adrenaline you get up quick and then you try to walk and then realise if your ankle is hurt or not, he had no adrenaline because he wanted to quit.
Only route back is a rematch. Whittaker believed his own hype and thought he just needed to show up but Cameron is an old school grafter and will keep coming back if you dont hit hard enough to stop him.
Ben absolutely grabbed that out with both hands. I actually really like Ben and always excited to watch him fight but that last round he was getting bullied around the ring and it looked as if he was going downhilll fast
You are the first person I have seen say this but totally agree - can’t believe more people aren’t talking about this, he is literally tipping his head back for the flip before he is even is at the ropes.
Yes !!! I like the lad but he realised his punches couldn't stop the war that was coming his way : Cameron can dig !! He felt Liam lean - grabbed onto him- leaned back and lifted his feet with the momentum to pull them both over the rope . That IS what all of us can see happen ffs!! The re- match needs to happen fast if there's no injuries - which will need proving if there are .
Ye but he definitely should have had th reflexes to avoid more of Liam's punches I mean you can't tell me Liam was throwing THAT fast just look at the lack of movement from ben He usually has excessive movement
@@thetruesquad5059 Whittaker was in with a experienced fighter, for the first time, the tricks he can normally pull off, with novice fighters, just don't wash, Liam knew what he was going to do, before he did, Whittaker also lacks punching power, which is crucial has a light heavyweight
@@johnlove8887 of course, but where were the reflexes like I did not see the dodging that is my point he was definitely fast enough to dodge them, it is like he just got predicted and anticipated to oblivion
Ben isn’t up against an elite technician and destroyer in beterbiev either. Every fighter has their advantages and disadvantages at the end of the day but this is the level of opponent that Ben should be winning comfortable if he is who he thinks he is
Bivol doesn’t have knockout power (at world level) but he has enough power to gain his opponents respect. You can’t be a LHW champ for as long as he was by being a pillow puncher, he’s fought plenty of pressure fighters that would’ve walked through him if he had no power at all. Can’t be compared to Whittaker who’s KOs are drying up before even getting to Euro level
@@francishughes2016 I'm a bit sick of hearing people laughing at fighters as they call them quitters when they've never put on a set of gloves. We saw this with DDD already.
@@TheQuestionTheAnswer Jeez, I NEVER laughed at B.W. i called him a quitter because that,s what he did, & that's what i saw. Also gloves do not come in sets, they come in pairs, & i do not need to put a pair on to have an opinion. I have been a boxing fan for 52 years, & i was a B.W. fan, & i have seen more than enough fights to know when a fighter quits, or when he is genuinely injured, all of the evidence is there. Apart from that the way that B. W. has responded with complete silence, tells me all that i need to know. If he does not have an immediate rematch, then this is going to follow him around like a bad smell for the rest of his career, also Cameron beats him in a rematch, also if you look at all of the social media, you will see that 95% of boxing fans agree with me, Whittaker won the 1st round, but Cameron won the next 4, including the 5th, Whittaker wanted an 'out', & pulled Cameron over the ropes with him, he quit, & that's all there is to it ! !.
If you re-watch the fight you can clearly see Ben gets caught with a body shot that takes the wind out of him before he decides to hold on then backflip over the ropes and quit.
Whittaker found out, Adam Smith also found out. He'll never criticise a boxer? F*ck off then! Criticism should by the very nature of boxing be rare, but to basically say whatever any boxer says or does is correct is an utter cop out. Has Smith ever even been in the ring? Many of us have, perhaps the majority of fight fans, and we KNOW what we saw. It seems the media and the boxing hierarchy pick a boxer they that is commercially viable and promote/protect him exclusively.
Anyone ever fell over in the playground at school during the winter, smacking your hands on the concrete when your hands are freezing? THAT is a proper injury.
Agreed.....the only fighter I compare whittaker to ,is Naseem Hamed,not for skills or power,but for all the showing off with weaker opponents....Hamed has spent all his career running from good opposition like Barrera and Morales.....They knew he was inferior to those two and run a mile from them ,until the arrogance of Hamed and the pressure from the boxing fans put him in a corner.......Barrera humiliated him so much that he retired him....... That is what ,in a small version,happened to Whittaker,got find out and run away from the fight........but now the fans are waiting and man,they are upset....is either immediate rematch,or forget about big money...... Ultimately the guy is a fraud so,good riddance...
@@lelloz7444 well said, they seem to forget, Whittaker was in the GB squad for a number of years, which is basically a professional, all the fighters before Liam Cameron were complete novices, many had only had very small amateur careers, that's why Whittaker could get away with his antics
What are they talking about, 1 judge seeing it so differently. The 116-112 judge gave beterbiev 1 more round than the other judge who also gave it beterbiev
Win or die trying. Haye, who is a clown, went out there on one leg and took his medicine, as well as any number others. Boxing requires that commitment. Some don't have it
@@philiplewis7572 he plainly is a clown, he's also a former world champion and a very accomplished boxer. His personal conduct, during and after his career, was clownish, that's sort of impossible to argue but he's a very good fighter.
I think Whittaker took the easy way out, I think we'd have seen some evidence of injury by now. Ben wasn't exactly being schooled in there, just a good humbling experience he'll probably learn a lot from. I'd back Whittaker to win in a rematch. But until he shows otherwise I'll assume he cheated in this one.
Guys aint got a clue. The judges agreed on 10 rounds. Judges gave Bivol in respect 6 rounds, 5 rounds and 4 rounds. This is one of the very few fights where the judges virtually agreed on what they saw.
The only thing boxing fans love more than a knock out is getting to call someone a quitter. Its pathetic, Dubois getting called a quitter by the most basic people... Try breaking your orbital bone and seeing if you can do anything but writhe in pain.
Quite interesting hearing the views of everyone texting in because I didn’t see the fight and my first reaction was “that’s a bit weird for that to happen” and thought previously that he wasn’t living up to the hype. If he thinks he’s losing and that’s effectively him right back at the bottom, more than feasible he took his chance of an out.
Boxing needs to shake up the scoring system, make it more clean cut with a single set of scoring guidelines set by all boards and governing bodies. They also need to introduce live scoring, after every 3 rounds the judges scores are aired, this will make judges accountable and bouts more exciting. We also need judges to score digitally instead of using pen and paper, a new card can easily be rewritten to change a decision, whereas a live format cannot be tampered.
7:10 Bivol might not be the biggest puncher but he's been a big ENOUGH puncher to keep fighters at bay with his skills to reach world title status. Whittaker can't even keep a domestic journeyman at bay with his power.... Jordan shows incredible naivety comparing Whittaker to Bivol.
No matter what we’re all talking about Ben Whitaker - there’s always something. I still think he’s brilliant to watch but clearly he’s a polarising character. Would like to see a rematch once Ben fully recovers and Cameron deserves it!
Boxing fans that complain about the atmosphere are the worse! We get these super fight cards funded by the Saudi’s and people still find something silly to moan about!
I know it's impossible to diagnose pain so only the fighter himself knows if he could have fought on, but if he was injured to the extent that he can't move around & fight on there should be some proof afterwards, bad swelling, a scan showing the damage done etc. without that people will think that he took an escape route from what was a difficult fight.
Easy to get different scorecards when rounds are that close throughout the fight. Not that hard to understand. So many times when its easy to score the judges act like they're watching a different fight so fair play to call that out. This is a much different scenario
Ben Whittaker cheated point blank. Things got to heated for him, knew he was losing, threw himself and his opponent out the ring and faked an injury. Ultimate betrayal to the sport.
Whittaker is your typical string bean tall, long armed advantges etc but when they have to fight someone near their height and length who can apply pressure, they all of a sudden don't look so great!
Simon Jordan has talked a load crap here. Ben said the day before the fight he doesn't let all the attention go to his head. This garbage that Ben let himself get dragged into a fight is pathetic, Ben is a boxer not a footballer. He's a really bad boxer and I'm glad he just proved he's no good and he can't handle the heat when it comes to him. All fine and dandy dancing around the ring like the drunken master but that's no good if you can't beat someone who won't put up with that type of nonsense in the ring. As far as I'm concerned boxing has been turned into a pantomime, with rigged fights and the wrong people getting a decision time and time again.
Take a look atound the boxing forums. Most people have not been saying Whittaker is the next big thing. On the contrary many have been saying he's a highlight reel ko waiting to happen. I myself backed Cameron at 9/1 it was upset night for Whittaker and he bailed when the chance arose.
9:50 Why does Jordan have this weird obsession about comparing Whittaker to Naseem? Did Naseem jump over the top rope injured or otherwise in his career? No he didn't....strange
Agreed, when boxxer signed him they did promo vids with him and Nas in them, trying to compare them. Simon should be able to withdraw himself from hype promoting
Good vid. I remeber gearikg years ago that , some judging varies. I.e America they like the guy that goes forward and is aggressive. Even if he is getting ping'd left right and centre.
Apparently hes been told by the BBBOC to prove his injury , people ringside and commentators all said his leg /foot didnt come into contact with anythin and on the replays he didn't twist his ankle or anythin , in my opinion hes been found out to be a hype job and was losin the fight , its been said he was told to stay down by his team
There’s been way too much hype around Whittaker which I’ve never understood given the level of his opposition. This was his first formidable opponent to which he didn’t have the power or talent to bother him, hence no showboating. The fact he didn’t try to get up speaks volumes as does his silence.
@@cloudwalk66 I dunno , I might need to watch the fight again , but a landing like that is pretty bad , I don’t wanna jump on the hype that it’s fake and say he’s a quitter , because not everyone goes flying out the ring like that and becomes fine , because if he carried on and he looked awful for the rest of the fight , everyone would have criticised him for that as well
@@guinessdrinker_azc29 he already looked awful before the incident. As bad as it looked, he was only moaning about the ankle. How come they haven’t made any kind of statement about the ‘injury’ to the press? Just look at the body language . None of it adds up. Hardly the way of a warrior.
Whittaker was fit enough to punch holes in the walls backstage so he isn’t injured he bottled it
He got injured after he came out mate. Keep up will ya
Walls dont move pal 😂
When did he punch walls
Adam Adam Adam, Ben is only flashy, Nas was flashy but he KO’d dominated these low ranked fighters. Knew he would lose against decent opposition. Like Jake Fraud would lose when he fights an actual boxer
Walls don't hit back
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Ben Quittaker has been found out. That kid will never make it past european level at best.
To be honest, he has only had a handful of bouts, and it was too early a step up. This gonna be the only issues going forward, big turki wants a fight to happen, it will happen. Regardless of the experience of each fighter.
@@Leon-y2gGood point. As much as we love Turki, fighters who have potential but are not quite there yet need to be careful, because Turki wants tough fights. Matchmaking needs to be very careful with these guys. For example, Wardley/Ckarke. Personally I don’t think Clarke was ready yet for that fight, and got rushed into it. Now has ended up with a bad injury.
People said the same of David Haye
@@TBO2488can’t talk like Ben does then claim he wasn’t ready for it all he goes on about is how he’s levels above and was going to ko in 1 round
How do you know mate u mystic Meg?
Ben quittiker!!!! The silence from bens team is embarrassing!!! He knows clearly what he was doing!!! Guys a fraud and been found out 1 million percent he won’t do rematch with liam
Clever move really.
From someone who loves to perform inside the ring doing dances and showboating, it all seems too fitting of someone like that to do it.
Keep it light Paul!
they are on google looking for a convincing photo of an injured ankle x-ray to post on his X account.
That’s a bit harsh, you have to give the lad some time to fabricate his evidence 😂
Adam Smith sits on the fence for everything. A pointless pundit who never wants to upset anyone.
Because he won't join the mob and maintains respect for the fighters? I know everyone's salivating at the prospect of laughing at Whittaker but Smith is right. No-one knows for sure how badly he hurt himself, but everyone's talking like they were there at ringside.
Can't stand the geez
@@TheQuestionTheAnswersurely not even attempting to get up is a good enough reason to at least doubt him?
he's useless , don't worry the clown took the vax , he's not got long
He always did that
Ben Quittaker has to be trending.
Of course it is. Twitter is for people who need to discover what pum pum tastes like
@@misterwardy1972 damn you like sushi?
HE QUIT. What a wasteman
Most hyped guy from the crop of 2020 Olympic fighters, yet he's achieved the least compared to his teammates who have fought at higher level/some even at world title already. I said for longest, he's built on American tiktok/social media 20 second clip hype. Even if he hadn't lost, if those 3m insta fans he had tuned in for full fight they'd be bored right away. Hype job.
Wasteman? Grow up. 😂
What is a waste man?
@@Bears84He might be young 😅
Thinks he's a pretty boy needs to look again bloody foooooool hope he get knock-out soon
Whittaker thinks he's Tommy Hearns, reality check, more like Tommy Cooper in Saudi 😂
When someone doesn't even attempt to get up, it arouses my suspicions.
I didn't get aroused by it but I think that's a very valid point! 😅
@@LeeAmes I’m glad you have something that you can get arise from
Yes because when you’re pumped on adrenaline you get up quick and then you try to walk and then realise if your ankle is hurt or not, he had no adrenaline because he wanted to quit.
@@JD-re3cj ok Doc
@@misterwardy1972 you’d go down and stay down ya piker
Only route back is a rematch. Whittaker believed his own hype and thought he just needed to show up but Cameron is an old school grafter and will keep coming back if you dont hit hard enough to stop him.
Ben absolutely grabbed that out with both hands. I actually really like Ben and always excited to watch him fight but that last round he was getting bullied around the ring and it looked as if he was going downhilll fast
You could see how QUITTIKER
Threw his head back before he even hit the ropes 😅
He anticipated the flip watch in slow motion
AND HIS LEG HIT NOTHING 🦵
You are the first person I have seen say this but totally agree - can’t believe more people aren’t talking about this, he is literally tipping his head back for the flip before he is even is at the ropes.
yes,exactly what I noticed!
Yes !!! I like the lad but he realised his punches couldn't stop the war that was coming his way : Cameron can dig !! He felt Liam lean - grabbed onto him- leaned back and lifted his feet with the momentum to pull them both over the rope . That IS what all of us can see happen ffs!! The re- match needs to happen fast if there's no injuries - which will need proving if there are .
@@adrianlovell8704i agree but I've watched it n I don't think he grabbed him?did throw his head back.
Even Stevie wonder noticed that
Many of us predicted, soon as Whittaker stepped up, he was gonna get found out
Ye but he definitely should have had th reflexes to avoid more of Liam's punches
I mean you can't tell me Liam was throwing THAT fast just look at the lack of movement from ben
He usually has excessive movement
@@thetruesquad5059 Whittaker was in with a experienced fighter, for the first time, the tricks he can normally pull off, with novice fighters, just don't wash, Liam knew what he was going to do, before he did, Whittaker also lacks punching power, which is crucial has a light heavyweight
@@thetruesquad5059 Whittaker always gets hit, even against journeymen.
@@johnlove8887 of course, but where were the reflexes like I did not see the dodging that is my point he was definitely fast enough to dodge them, it is like he just got predicted and anticipated to oblivion
@@davidgraham6434 and bivol is not exactly a power puncher
Adam protecting Skys only valuable boxer😭😭😭 whittaker has been found out
He isn't with sky anymore
Ben was acting like he got KOd he wanted a way out
Come on Adam he quit
Adam is a Slimeball there's just something about him that says nah don't like him.
Bivol has enough power to keep his opponent honest, Ben has nothing. Anyone who comes to put it on him, gives him horrors
Ben isn’t up against an elite technician and destroyer in beterbiev either. Every fighter has their advantages and disadvantages at the end of the day but this is the level of opponent that Ben should be winning comfortable if he is who he thinks he is
Beterbiev knocks out Whittiker in 1 round and Bivol knocks him out in 4 rounds after schooling him lol.
He looked for a way out and found it.
Said Whittaker was a hype job he quit by feigning injury because he was getting his ass handed to him.
You "feing" back to school 😂😂😂😂
Wheelchair Whittaker will never live this down.
Jeez, Yes your right, until he has a rematch, this is going to follow him around like a bad smell ! !.
Bivol doesn’t have knockout power (at world level) but he has enough power to gain his opponents respect. You can’t be a LHW champ for as long as he was by being a pillow puncher, he’s fought plenty of pressure fighters that would’ve walked through him if he had no power at all. Can’t be compared to Whittaker who’s KOs are drying up before even getting to Euro level
8:15 - "as a commentator, to say someone quit is a very hard thing to say" - key words right there!
Not if its true ! !.
@@francishughes2016 I'm a bit sick of hearing people laughing at fighters as they call them quitters when they've never put on a set of gloves. We saw this with DDD already.
@@TheQuestionTheAnswer Jeez, I NEVER laughed at B.W. i called him a quitter because that,s what he did, & that's what i saw. Also gloves do not come in sets, they come in pairs, & i do not need to put a pair on to have an opinion.
I have been a boxing fan for 52 years, & i was a B.W. fan, & i have seen more than enough fights to know when a fighter quits, or when he is genuinely injured, all of the evidence is there.
Apart from that the way that B. W. has responded with complete silence, tells me all that i need to know. If he does not have an immediate rematch, then this is going to follow him around like a bad smell for the rest of his career, also Cameron beats him in a rematch, also if you look at all of the social media, you will see that 95% of boxing fans agree with me, Whittaker won the 1st round, but Cameron won the next 4, including the 5th, Whittaker wanted an 'out', & pulled Cameron over the ropes with him, he quit, & that's all there is to it ! !.
If you re-watch the fight you can clearly see Ben gets caught with a body shot that takes the wind out of him before he decides to hold on then backflip over the ropes and quit.
Whittaker found out, Adam Smith also found out. He'll never criticise a boxer? F*ck off then! Criticism should by the very nature of boxing be rare, but to basically say whatever any boxer says or does is correct is an utter cop out. Has Smith ever even been in the ring? Many of us have, perhaps the majority of fight fans, and we KNOW what we saw. It seems the media and the boxing hierarchy pick a boxer they that is commercially viable and promote/protect him exclusively.
Spot on!!!!
He's a company man
Anyone ever fell over in the playground at school during the winter, smacking your hands on the concrete when your hands are freezing? THAT is a proper injury.
😂
You're not wrong
Are you suggesting they rematch in a school playground?
Only this wasn't in a playground or cold
@@rfurms The point being we’ve all likely had worse injuries in the playground at school. Come on now..
Ben weetabix Whitakker can't wait to hear what excuse he gives 😂
He doesn’t eat weetabix he’s not strong
Shredded Wea(k) Wheat!
5:03 Whittaker topic starts
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Jordans first big mistake, trying to compare Bivol and Whittaker in anyway, these people are boxing illiterate
Agreed.....the only fighter I compare whittaker to ,is Naseem Hamed,not for skills or power,but for all the showing off with weaker opponents....Hamed has spent all his career running from good opposition like Barrera and Morales.....They knew he was inferior to those two and run a mile from them ,until the arrogance of Hamed and the pressure from the boxing fans put him in a corner.......Barrera humiliated him so much that he retired him.......
That is what ,in a small version,happened to Whittaker,got find out and run away from the fight........but now the fans are waiting and man,they are upset....is either immediate rematch,or forget about big money......
Ultimately the guy is a fraud so,good riddance...
@@lelloz7444 well said, they seem to forget, Whittaker was in the GB squad for a number of years, which is basically a professional, all the fighters before Liam Cameron were complete novices, many had only had very small amateur careers, that's why Whittaker could get away with his antics
What are they talking about, 1 judge seeing it so differently. The 116-112 judge gave beterbiev 1 more round than the other judge who also gave it beterbiev
Simon knows f’all about boxing 😂. How u using quittackers name in the same sentence as bivol 😂😂😂. Absolute lemon!
People were doing it before the fight
Showing u don't need that much power to b elite
It's embarrassing isn't it mate 😂
Quality OBSERVATION..
uncle Simon Pieman, full of BIT..
ER NESS,
Chronic CLOBBER, dress advisor..
GALE (damp squib) soft Breeze GoldWineStein!
Clearly didn’t listen to him. 🤦🏽♂️ actually listen to him. 👍
Caller Chris, Spot on assessment! 👏
He quit, knew if he didnt go out in that wheel chair he'd be going out on a stretcher
😂😂😂
He was up on the scorecards and had just bust Cameron’s nose? We’ll find out when we get the rematch anyway
Liam Cameron has a real life Rocky story to tell. It's a shame they stole his finest moment from him like that.
No punch power won’t be able to keep people off
Win or die trying. Haye, who is a clown, went out there on one leg and took his medicine, as well as any number others. Boxing requires that commitment. Some don't have it
A man who was unified cruiser weight then heavyweight champ is a clown how many titles have u won
@@philiplewis7572 he plainly is a clown, he's also a former world champion and a very accomplished boxer. His personal conduct, during and after his career, was clownish, that's sort of impossible to argue but he's a very good fighter.
Where is Whittaker ? Why isn’t he on camera explaining his action, guys gone missing. Fraud!
That’s true, It was only a hurt ankle ‘allegedly’ nothing to stop him being interviewed. Shame I was enjoying his fights up to this one.
About time someone says it how it is
I think Whittaker took the easy way out, I think we'd have seen some evidence of injury by now. Ben wasn't exactly being schooled in there, just a good humbling experience he'll probably learn a lot from. I'd back Whittaker to win in a rematch. But until he shows otherwise I'll assume he cheated in this one.
Exactly right if it was a genuine injury they would have released the details by now to appease the public
Why do we need to know which football team they support when they're ringing up to comment on boxing?
When the segment is about boxing,,who cares what football team the caller supports, we dont care Jim.
Simon Jordan slams and is furious about anything these days… all for those clicks talkFAKE more like
Idiot!
Then there's you. Clicking away.
@@MVoid369 yeah you have to click the video in order to make a comment didn’t you know that mate?
@misterwardy1972 he is justified for this take, this time.
@@misterwardy1972 he thinks there was too much hype around Whittaker, while being one of the most vocal about how much of a superstar he’s gonna be 😂
Guys aint got a clue. The judges agreed on 10 rounds. Judges gave Bivol in respect 6 rounds, 5 rounds and 4 rounds. This is one of the very few fights where the judges virtually agreed on what they saw.
Why’s the White and Jordan show from Monday morning not available on playback on the talksport app?!?!
The only thing boxing fans love more than a knock out is getting to call someone a quitter. Its pathetic, Dubois getting called a quitter by the most basic people... Try breaking your orbital bone and seeing if you can do anything but writhe in pain.
Quite interesting hearing the views of everyone texting in because I didn’t see the fight and my first reaction was “that’s a bit weird for that to happen” and thought previously that he wasn’t living up to the hype. If he thinks he’s losing and that’s effectively him right back at the bottom, more than feasible he took his chance of an out.
Boxing needs to shake up the scoring system, make it more clean cut with a single set of scoring guidelines set by all boards and governing bodies. They also need to introduce live scoring, after every 3 rounds the judges scores are aired, this will make judges accountable and bouts more exciting. We also need judges to score digitally instead of using pen and paper, a new card can easily be rewritten to change a decision, whereas a live format cannot be tampered.
Why is Simon Jordan wearing a neck brace 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Chronic ClobbA,
Sore neck
Don't knock Adam Smith, I slightly disagree but I do like what he said here
7:10 Bivol might not be the biggest puncher but he's been a big ENOUGH puncher to keep fighters at bay with his skills to reach world title status.
Whittaker can't even keep a domestic journeyman at bay with his power....
Jordan shows incredible naivety comparing Whittaker to Bivol.
Should have got a doctor in the ring to assess professionally. If he said he was fit to continue, Ben should have lost the fight.
I can’t even lie I got to give Whittier credit protecting his legacy 🤣🤣🤣🤣 he is defo a Lannister
No matter what we’re all talking about Ben Whitaker - there’s always something. I still think he’s brilliant to watch but clearly he’s a polarising character. Would like to see a rematch once Ben fully recovers and Cameron deserves it!
Boxing fans that complain about the atmosphere are the worse! We get these super fight cards funded by the Saudi’s and people still find something silly to moan about!
Well the atmosphere is a huge part of sport. The Saudi atmosphere is awful.
main event was fantastic, wasn't bothered about the atmosphere or anything around it
@@TFB97 was you in Saudi or at home? Did you not enjoy the card? Clutching at straws!
@@GeorgeMaac i was watching from home like the majority of people and had no problem with the atmosphere
I definitely think it's not as important as long as we're getting super fights, but it's also not good for the sport in the long run
Liam Cameron was battering him. There has to be a rematch or Whittaker is finished for me. And i'll be cheering for the new star Liam Cameron.
Beterbiev won the fight fair and square, what is talksport problem one judge didn't see it so differently, stop listening to Eddie hearn ye muppets
You don't know how you'll react until you're met with adversity
Ben Whittaker shouldn't get paid. He just had enough and walked out. He didn't fulfill his duties
I know it's impossible to diagnose pain so only the fighter himself knows if he could have fought on, but if he was injured to the extent that he can't move around & fight on there should be some proof afterwards, bad swelling, a scan showing the damage done etc. without that people will think that he took an escape route from what was a difficult fight.
Easy to get different scorecards when rounds are that close throughout the fight. Not that hard to understand. So many times when its easy to score the judges act like they're watching a different fight so fair play to call that out. This is a much different scenario
Whitikers moniker ahould be the escapilgist,or,houdini;!!!!!
WE PAY TO BE ENTERTAINED.
ADAM GROW A BACK BONE AND HAVE AN OPINION.
Ben needs to rematch Liam to prove he aint quit
Ben Whittaker cheated point blank. Things got to heated for him, knew he was losing, threw himself and his opponent out the ring and faked an injury. Ultimate betrayal to the sport.
The only way to settle it is a rematch, we find out then who is the better man speculation is just that speculation
Beeterbeef- should have gotten a nod in a close fight, in my view.
Whittaker is your typical string bean tall, long armed advantges etc but when they have to fight someone near their height and length who can apply pressure, they all of a sudden don't look so great!
Basically deontay wilder at lhw 🤣
Adam Smith not a real pundit, hes a cheerleader, how some people see him, as some sort of authority on boxing, is mind-blowing
Simon Jordan has talked a load crap here. Ben said the day before the fight he doesn't let all the attention go to his head. This garbage that Ben let himself get dragged into a fight is pathetic, Ben is a boxer not a footballer. He's a really bad boxer and I'm glad he just proved he's no good and he can't handle the heat when it comes to him. All fine and dandy dancing around the ring like the drunken master but that's no good if you can't beat someone who won't put up with that type of nonsense in the ring. As far as I'm concerned boxing has been turned into a pantomime, with rigged fights and the wrong people getting a decision time and time again.
Heated debate? Another click bait title
Wanted a way out.
And what will you say if they refuse the Liam Cameron rematch @Adam
Put him in against beterbiev. Would be a treat to watch
That's why we have 3 judges, not 1
One of the shortest careers in boxing
Is this IFLtv?
Take a look atound the boxing forums. Most people have not been saying Whittaker is the next big thing. On the contrary many have been saying he's a highlight reel ko waiting to happen. I myself backed Cameron at 9/1 it was upset night for Whittaker and he bailed when the chance arose.
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Ben Picker De La Cottòne Quittnikkar
A rematch would go the same way 😴
9:50 Why does Jordan have this weird obsession about comparing Whittaker to Naseem? Did Naseem jump over the top rope injured or otherwise in his career? No he didn't....strange
Agreed, when boxxer signed him they did promo vids with him and Nas in them, trying to compare them. Simon should be able to withdraw himself from hype promoting
Let's see the hospital report........never going to happen
Paul Dempsey on the tnt coverage had a brilliant line the surgeon may need a surgeon 🤣🤣
Adam PR Smith
Bro why are you talking about things that aren’t what is in the caption if it’s not at the start
He didn’t get “pulled” into a fight, he was up against a veteran who knows how to box and how to take a shot. His will broke.
Good vid. I remeber gearikg years ago that , some judging varies. I.e America they like the guy that goes forward and is aggressive. Even if he is getting ping'd left right and centre.
Apparently hes been told by the BBBOC to prove his injury , people ringside and commentators all said his leg /foot didnt come into contact with anythin and on the replays he didn't twist his ankle or anythin , in my opinion hes been found out to be a hype job and was losin the fight , its been said he was told to stay down by his team
There’s been way too much hype around Whittaker which I’ve never understood given the level of his opposition. This was his first formidable opponent to which he didn’t have the power or talent to bother him, hence no showboating. The fact he didn’t try to get up speaks volumes as does his silence.
Reminds me of avenesian vs josh kelly except Josh didnt quit
Nothing controversial about betebiev getting the nod he was beating bivol up
I think people are really under looking how bad it is to land the way he did when falling out of the ring like that
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He supposedly injured his ankle but his ankles didn't even hit anything.. the injury was 100% faked, he was looking for a way out
He claimed the ankle, but wasn’t even holding it or didn’t try to stand up. Not normal behaviour
@@cloudwalk66 I dunno , I might need to watch the fight again , but a landing like that is pretty bad , I don’t wanna jump on the hype that it’s fake and say he’s a quitter , because not everyone goes flying out the ring like that and becomes fine , because if he carried on and he looked awful for the rest of the fight , everyone would have criticised him for that as well
@@guinessdrinker_azc29 he already looked awful before the incident. As bad as it looked, he was only moaning about the ankle. How come they haven’t made any kind of statement about the ‘injury’ to the press? Just look at the body language . None of it adds up. Hardly the way of a warrior.
Opinions don't make it exciting , it makes it a dated. Should be an A.I system to officiate the matches
What did Whitaker hurt his leg on ? He only fell backwards and landed on his back. His legs were in the air.
has the defenition for the word "HEATED" been changed in the English dictionary?
adam glazing off adam saying he didnt quit and hes a fighter is an embaressment
The 116/112 split was the robbery.
Why did rumplestiltskin leave sky if was very ill , shouldn't they have supported him ?
To fight in the "Naz" style, you've got to have the power in your fists & you've got to have a good chin.
the first caller never went to saudi 😂😂
Why tell us what team they support on a boxing call 😂
Quittaker took the easy way out.