Gregory Kunde - Credeasi misera (with high F!!!) - Puritani - 1995

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  • @mariaantoniettabenincasa2741
    @mariaantoniettabenincasa2741 Рік тому +1

    Grazie Gregori per il bene che hai voluto a, noi facendoci sentire
    Un tenore che , oltre ad avere una bella voce, cantava come si deve, non tutti i tenori lo sanno, a quanto si sente in giro nei teatri

  • @promptersbox
    @promptersbox 2 роки тому +7

    Mr.Kunde is wonderful. The last major tenor to have any connection with the great singers of the past. Style and technique, he would have been recognized 60 years ago. Bravo!

  • @alberichelnegro8914
    @alberichelnegro8914 Рік тому +2

    Perfectamente realizado: un falsettone (aunque algunos comentarios lo nieguen) que se funde perfectamente con la voz natural y que da como resultado un sobreagudo en voz mixta, de muy buena factura, timbrado y con armónicos. Mucho mejor, por ejemplo, que el falsete (demasiado evidente) dado por Pavarotti en una grabación que corre por ahí de esta misma romanza.

  • @joseleobardoromeroperez3898
    @joseleobardoromeroperez3898 Рік тому +2

    Sin duda un gran tenor heroico aquí todavia estaba en plenitud de facultades y es el mejor tenor qué a emitido este Fa así con voz abierta se nota como dominaba ese modo de emitir esta nota. Cayó en para mi desgracia porque perdió la modulacion de voz y emitía un canto llano. Gran tenor gregori kunde.

  • @luca200177
    @luca200177 6 років тому +10

    Non è un falsetto né un falsettone. E una nota presa a voce piena. Grandioso!

  • @DiomedesDioscuro
    @DiomedesDioscuro 7 місяців тому +1

    Bastante lindo en grabación... La vez que lo escuché en vivo a penas se oía.

    • @joseppluma5875
      @joseppluma5875 3 місяці тому +1

      Tal vez, porque su voz se escucha muy adentro

  • @Eltunda1
    @Eltunda1 5 років тому +5

    ¡Espléndido! ¡Un enorme ARtista! ...y sin poses de divo. ¡Bravissimo, Greg!

  • @alexandermiles2890
    @alexandermiles2890 7 років тому +6

    Very pretty rendition! Beautiful voice in all registers. Thank you Meastro!

  • @SilfredoSerrano
    @SilfredoSerrano 6 років тому +7

    I was at that performance! Magnificent!

  • @Olgaalwina
    @Olgaalwina 2 роки тому +2

    No many words, but ........................BRAVO; BRAVO !!!

  • @marcvdbosch1802
    @marcvdbosch1802 3 роки тому +10

    I had the joy of being on stage with Greg in Rossini's Otello. And I heard many versions of this finale from Puritani. Krauss, Mateuzzi, Blake, Brownlee,... and this is the only one where the F sounds nice and not as something strangly interpolated. It is natural and sounds not akward. Bravo Greg ! His voice got fuller and darker since and he now does more dramatic roles. But also in Otello his coloratura were smooth and al the rossinian ornamentation just easy and also glorious Hig D's EB and E's. He still got it .

    • @lsmart
      @lsmart Рік тому +2

      Precisely. The early Pavarotti did ringing D's, but his F in this aria was a total head sound. I don't know how Kunde produced the notes, for he does seem to change the production somewhat from the full-throated regular tone, but the F remains similar to a regular sound and has tremendous ring.

    • @marcvdbosch1802
      @marcvdbosch1802 Рік тому +1

      @@lsmart Well I was also so unlucky to have to sing this. And I'm a spinto. Able to do this repertoire but in a fuller sound offcourse. No problem untill D. But yeah theres is this F. Full Falcetto? Well no that isnt coherent with my breast register, and way to thin. So the solution is some kind of mix. It only happened one day. And it was a rehearsal but I got the F in full voice !! And after you try to recreate what you done. Its kinda go half into headvoice, put ressonance really forward, but keep breathing , jaw and troath low. So the tone is with enough squillo and also well supported. Iguess that is what Greg does to. Oh well this high F..... I guess its way more pleasant to hear two good D flats in full voice then to try this F that mostly sounds like the killing of a rooster.

    • @fishwigy
      @fishwigy Рік тому +1

      @@marcvdbosch1802 I'm a lyric tenor but when singing rock, I do what you do with fusing registers, what's called the falsettone. It sounds like power metal, but that's the only way notes above d are happening

  • @Agorante
    @Agorante 7 років тому +52

    There is a lot of nonsense written about singing by singers and voice teachers. Falsetto is not an obsolete term. It means you vocalize with just the outer edges of the vocal cords. If you use the whole cord, as you do in most singing, it is called 'modal'. If you crank up your fluoroscope you can see this.
    I'm a low bass. I sing Osmin and Sarastro and similar parts. When I was singing I used to interpolate low Cs in the operas I sang. Yet I have a tenor's High C. It is of course in falsetto. All trained male singers should be capable of singing a High C one way or the other. Before Duprez all tenors sang their Cs (and higher) in some kind of falsetto, Then Duprez sang it from 'the chest'. That means he sang it in his modal voice. I can't do that, nor can any bass or baritone and many tenors. Most famous 'big' tenors never sing a real High C on stage. If you have good High B Flat you can have a career you don't need a C.(ask Domingo).
    Kunde is an excellent tenor because he is so musical. If he didn't happen to have all those extreme high notes he still would be worth listening to. But he is one of a handful of operatic tenors who can really sing these parts. Listen to Pavarotti sing this on the full length LP. He switches from modal voice to falsetto like a light switch. It is all wrong. It destroys the line. It isn't musical. Kunde is much better and Kunde looks better on stage too.

    • @artdanks
      @artdanks 5 років тому +2

      Exce)ent comment, and very instructive. Thank you.

    • @jackbigbug
      @jackbigbug 3 роки тому +1

      But he doesn't sing 'those extreme high notes' in modal voice but with an interpolated tecnique.... Falsettone...

    • @Agorante
      @Agorante 3 роки тому

      @@jackbigbug
      When in doubt - make something up. Neologisms don't help.

    • @jackbigbug
      @jackbigbug 3 роки тому

      @@Agorante ua-cam.com/video/ywirgWci82o/v-deo.html

    • @brendant19
      @brendant19 2 роки тому +2

      Couldn't disagree more with your take on Pavarotti's falsetto. It's beautiful and full and positioned the same way Soprano head voice is. It's great, and I think it works.

  • @jaykeyz9094
    @jaykeyz9094 6 місяців тому +1

    Sounds extremely extremely small, and I usually never make comments on the size of one's voice. Beautiful high f but the rest is probably inaudible if you are watching this in person

  • @enriquesirven
    @enriquesirven 3 місяці тому

    Notable! Lo emite con la voz entera conectada al pecho, no es falsete. Una proeza para muy pocos

  • @davidstyles2762
    @davidstyles2762 5 років тому +8

    Questo bel Fa è una nota di testa rinforzata che ha delle componenti di petto prese dalle note precedenti :)

  • @ridvansadrhanov
    @ridvansadrhanov Рік тому +4

    ГЕНИАЛЬНЫЙ ПЕВЕЦ !!!!!

  • @jesusmunoz2400
    @jesusmunoz2400 3 роки тому +2

    Ha sido un tenor completísimo y con buena técnica.

  • @G.Andrea_Piras
    @G.Andrea_Piras 6 років тому +1

    È un meraviglioso falsetto. - E non sarebbe possibile in altro modo...

  • @marianomunoz686
    @marianomunoz686 7 років тому +6

    Un gran tenor. De los pocos que cantan en la actualidad con la voz bien proyectada y gusto. Aunque para mi el mejor Arturo de todos los tiempos sea Kraus, Kunde lo canta de maravilla como casi lo q hace.

    • @AlejandroRomero-iu3wh
      @AlejandroRomero-iu3wh 6 років тому +2

      Kraus no cantaba las notas auténticas que hay que cantar en esta aria, cantaba las que le daba la gana. Kunde sí que las canta.

    • @1rogel
      @1rogel 6 років тому +1

      Alejandro Romero kraus jamas transporte las Óperas que cantaba incluida esta Ópera que canto por mas de 20 años y se le consideraba un experto. Ahora, esta aria es inhumana, un "FA" sobreagudo es raro el tenor que lo haga, Kunde en otras presentaciones ya no hace el "FA" sobreagudo, simplemente bajan 1 tono a la parte del "FA" sobreagudo y queda un MIb.

  • @midzotermili7523
    @midzotermili7523 Рік тому +1

    GRANDIOSO!!!!!

  • @annatirindelli8879
    @annatirindelli8879 6 років тому +1

    MERAVIGLIOSO!!! COMPLIMENTI VIVISSIMI 😃😃

  • @jimbuxton2187
    @jimbuxton2187 Рік тому +1

    Very nice on an impossible note.

  • @germanquintero10121946
    @germanquintero10121946 5 місяців тому

    MAGNIFICO

  • @lomymu123
    @lomymu123 3 роки тому +5

    You can clearly hear what good influence Alfredo Kraus had on him. The voice not nella gola but well placed forward and high in the head. Bravo!

  • @anthonyehrenzweig7697
    @anthonyehrenzweig7697 6 місяців тому +1

    Thats the best F5 I have heard - without being falsetto.

  • @acitipo
    @acitipo 2 роки тому +2

    Pero por supuesto que algunos tenores tienen el Fa sobre agudo y sin hacer falsete, no necesariamente tenores conocidos, algunos como :Angelo Loforesse, Kunde, Matteuzzi, Lawrence, francesco Demuro….

  • @Winnepausakee
    @Winnepausakee 3 роки тому +3

    Another voice that after 45 years of tracking operatic voices, I heard for the first time 2 years ago, AND when asking very "serious" operatic buffs, including two professional voice coaches, I was not alone. Neither of the teachers nor any of the serious buffs had ever heard of him. How can that be possible?

    • @Muttonchop_USA
      @Muttonchop_USA 3 роки тому +3

      He's been a star for ages mostly in Europe I think. And he brought the house down at the MET in 2019 when he was rushed in to replace an ailing tenor to sing Samson. It hit the papers so your buffs weren't paying attention.

    • @Winnepausakee
      @Winnepausakee 3 роки тому

      @@Muttonchop_USA Thank you...I'll try to track this one down. One would hope that having a career in Europe wasn't a step toward anonymity, but 20 years ago I heard the most sumptuous mezzo I've ever heard, live in a Sunday concert in the park in Prague, and have never heard her name mentioned anywhere since...and I lived in Europe for 3 years after that concert....Poof! Gone.....

    • @Muttonchop_USA
      @Muttonchop_USA 3 роки тому +4

      @@Winnepausakee ANONYMITY? -- Recent highlights include the title role Otello at the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden, Calaf Turandot at the Gran Teatre del Liceu, Jean de Leyden Le prophète at the Deutsche Oper Berlin, the title role Don Carlos for Opéra Royal de Wallonie-Liège, Samson Samson et Dalila at the Metropolitan Opera, title role Otello for Opéra national de Paris and Opéra de Monte-Carlo, title role Andrea Chénier and Radames Aida at the Wiener Staatsoper, Calaf Turandot at the Teatro Real, Madrid, Renato des Grieux Manon Lescaut in concert for Dallas Opera, Don Alvaro La forza del destino at the Semperoper Dresden, title role Peter Grimes at the Palau de les Arts Reina Sofia, Valencia, Radames Aida at the Teatro Real, Madrid, and a return to the podium to conduct Il barbiere di Siviglia at the Teatro La Fenice. Invitations to be rescheduled to future seasons include Manrico Il Trovatore for LA Opera.
      On the concert platform, recent highlights include Verdi Requiem and Calaf Turandot with the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra under the baton of Zubin Mehta, Das Lied von der Erde at the BBC Proms, Verdi Requiem in Bilbao, the title role Verdi Otello at the Cincinnati May Festival, title role Peter Grimes with Sir Antonio Pappano at the Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia and Faust La damnation de Faust in concert at the Concertgebouw Amsterdam with Charles Dutoit.
      Acclaimed throughout his earlier career for his performances in French and Italian bel canto roles, Kunde has now established himself as a leading exponent of many of the Verdi roles and other such dramatic repertoire. Since his critically acclaimed debut as Verdi Otello at La Fenice in 2012, he has performed this signature role in Valencia, Genoa, Salerno, Florence, Turin, Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, Seoul, and São Paulo. Since moving into this repertoire, Kunde earned the unique distinction of being the only tenor in recorded history to perform both Rossini Otello and Verdi Otello in the same season (2014/15 and 2015/16).

    • @lsmart
      @lsmart Рік тому +1

      @@Muttonchop_USA These are all 2nd and 3rd rate opera houses. Given the utter scarcity of good-sized tenor voices with an appealing tone and strong high notes, someone like Kunde should have been singing roles regularly at the Met, La Scala, Chica Lyric, etc. Instead they turn Kaufman into a superstar, and chase after singers like Beczala, Alvarez, and Alagna - all of whom are of lesser quality than Kunde, and certainly in the difficult roles that he has sung, such as Othello, Puritani, Fille de Regiment, etc. The same has been true in the past 30 years to an even greater degree regarding Salvatore Fisichella, who had stupendous high notes, a sweet and rich tone, and fine singing ability - but couldn't get an invite at the Met.

    • @falkfink
      @falkfink 5 місяців тому

      ​@@lsmartDid you just call Wiener Staatsoper a 2nd rate house? LMFAO

  • @levieuxpiano
    @levieuxpiano 6 років тому +1

    Bravo !

  • @marie-armelle458
    @marie-armelle458 7 років тому +1

    magnifiques chanteurs

  • @johnbreuerwielrenner
    @johnbreuerwielrenner Рік тому

    Fenomibinabel👍

  • @ralphzamoyski2807
    @ralphzamoyski2807 2 роки тому +2

    I really love Gregory Kunde, and I think he is a great tenor, but reality is he is a far away from the greatest ones.

    • @lsmart
      @lsmart Рік тому

      I also agree he's far from a Pavarotti or Domingo, but he is still better than many tenors singing at the Met today - even in standard roles, let alone in the high-range roles. That is the crime.

  • @colindowson7615
    @colindowson7615 6 років тому +5

    A great Tenor in the class of Pavarotti,it is a disgrace he isn't more celebrated

  • @andrzejzborowski4920
    @andrzejzborowski4920 Рік тому +1

    Such a great tenor was barely invited to the MET and only for replacing other singers. That means the MET doesn't support the best singers in the world and you don't have to sing at the MET to prove you're a great singer. See Piero Capucilli. He performed at the MET only once and was one of the best baritones of the 20th century second half :)

  • @j.snefrou9356
    @j.snefrou9356 2 місяці тому

    ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @alfredbernasek861
    @alfredbernasek861 11 місяців тому

    INTERESSANT

  • @gabriellafiabane8144
    @gabriellafiabane8144 6 місяців тому

    che meravigliaaaaaa (altro che bocelli buuuuu)

  • @juanjoperabilbo
    @juanjoperabilbo 6 років тому

    mi favorito en los ultimos veinte años

  • @karilamminpaa8987
    @karilamminpaa8987 2 роки тому

    Wisdom usually lies somewher else ...

  • @miguelangelpalenzuelamarti7657
    @miguelangelpalenzuelamarti7657 8 років тому +13

    Eso no es falsettto. Es una maravilla

    • @vitorlacerda620
      @vitorlacerda620 7 років тому

      Miguel Angel Palenzuela Martín xD

    • @EliominDZ
      @EliominDZ 5 років тому +1

      totalmente falsete,ignorante

    • @fredycastropinzon7342
      @fredycastropinzon7342 5 років тому

      Es un falsete reforzado ningún hombre canta esa nota naturalmente es fisiológicamente imposible

    •  4 роки тому

      Mix voice my friends ;)
      the sound changes a lot when it's falsetto, also the resonance.

    • @leonardopena3330
      @leonardopena3330 4 роки тому

      @@EliominDZ el ignorante aquí eres tú! Eso no es falsete, es voz mixta o heady mix

  • @Milordvega
    @Milordvega 7 років тому +5

    4:44

  • @pseudotonal
    @pseudotonal 5 місяців тому

    That was a decent high F

  • @diegoaugustosalomon5899
    @diegoaugustosalomon5899 5 років тому

    Eso se consideraría un falsete como lo hace Nicolai gedda en esta aria ?

  • @MiguelArcangel-zi7xd
    @MiguelArcangel-zi7xd Рік тому +1

    No es falsete, e verdadera voz de cabeza, y lo hacen varios tenores como: Kunde, Rocha, Demura, Brownlee, Camarena, Mateuzzi.....ellos tiene esa capacidad. El hecho que otros como Kraus, JDF, Fisichella... no lo hacen, no significa que sean grandes tenores.

  • @marianomunoz686
    @marianomunoz686 7 років тому

    El agudo final un poco apretado. Por lo demás perfecto.

  • @flaze3
    @flaze3 Рік тому

    Kunde sounds tired here. It must have been a full on performance

  • @lucianasalis9216
    @lucianasalis9216 10 місяців тому

    Per favore, traducete in italiano la lingua inglese! Non la conosco bene, e come me migliaia di persone! Grazie 🙏!

  • @devieasutarisia4673
    @devieasutarisia4673 Рік тому

    Dから上になると声がガラッと変わってしまうにゃ。

  • @jordipanadesribera6890
    @jordipanadesribera6890 4 роки тому

    Un tenor de referència i una soprano també de referència.

  • @domenicopoziello9416
    @domenicopoziello9416 9 днів тому

    Aaaaqaqaqaqa

  • @olegvr5499
    @olegvr5499 8 років тому

    But it is falsetto! Why?..

    • @TheChangken
      @TheChangken 7 років тому +1

      Oleg VR If you are a tenor yourself you would know why. I am 19 and I am a tenor I know how hard it is to hit a high C on mix, what more of a high F.
      The passagio of tenors is from F# which is why we must shift to head tone but because of unrealistic operatic standards, we are forced to hit a high C on chest voice. We can't push that high. It's impossible. lol.

    • @jbaumboy
      @jbaumboy 6 років тому

      Heard Brownlee hit the high F in Puritani in Chicago last night and even in falsetto, it is the most amazing thing to hear and I have been to my share of operas.

    • @artdanks
      @artdanks 5 років тому

      @@TheChangken Its not impossible. It can be developed over time, with a lot of work.

  • @merabdekano3986
    @merabdekano3986 7 років тому +1

    No, no es falsetto. Claro que no. Ahora bien, bonito lo que es bonito, no es. Hace poco fui a ver Otello de Rossini en Gante. El Sr. Kunde, con sus 60 y pico tacos, estuvo en plena forma. Ah, y no nos fijemos solo en notas y octavas. Cantar es mucho más que eso. Kraus casi nunca estuvo dispuesto a darle salida a esa fa brutal, pero no por eso tenemos derecho a reprocherle nada. Para mí, cualquier tenor por encima de la do aguda suena como un gato, de esos que copulan en el patio por la noche y hacen esos ruidos espantosos que a veces confundimos con el llanto de un bebé. La fa esa, o se canta en falsetto o no se canta. En esta nota tan aguda siempre hay "gato encerrado"...

  • @johnheiserman8015
    @johnheiserman8015 7 років тому +1

    Falsetto is an outdated term. Everything is either heavy or light mechanism or a mix of the two.

    • @danielhughes441
      @danielhughes441 2 роки тому +1

      Actually, no. Falsetto is NOT the same as “light mechanism.” Falsetto is called that because the folds don’t fully adduct, so the phonation is “false” (because it is not a full voice phonation)

  • @riccardobarreca8066
    @riccardobarreca8066 7 років тому +5

    È chiaramente un falsetto rinforzato. Un suono privo di timbro. Perché ostinarsi a inventare miti di fumo??!!

    • @evgenijbazarov8616
      @evgenijbazarov8616 6 років тому

      Completamente d'accordo. Il falsetto è rinforzato a regola d'arte, questo è innegabile. Ma sempre di falsetto si tratta.

    • @mariaantoniettabenincasa2741
      @mariaantoniettabenincasa2741 Рік тому

      Avete le orecchie foderate di prosciutto, non ha fatto n
      eSSun falsetto , e anche se fosse e' una bellissima nota presa bene da grande artista che e'

    • @mariaantoniettabenincasa2741
      @mariaantoniettabenincasa2741 Рік тому

      Pasta filatabravo

    • @riccardobarreca8066
      @riccardobarreca8066 Рік тому

      @@mariaantoniettabenincasa2741 Sembra che i soprani e le donne in genere non abbiano il falsetto e per questo, evidentemente, anche lei cara signora ha difficoltà a rendersi conto di questa emissione. Al contrario, per un uomo è difficoltoso superare nel canto, non nel grido, il La naturale fino al Do naturale acuto e oltre. A me è accaduto appunto di trovarmi in questa difficoltà ma, in particolare, la difficoltà VERA è stata trovare un autentico insegnante di canto, ragione per cui ho imparato a cantare troppo tardi. Il motivo cardine di tutto ciò è la generale presunzione di saper cantare e di capire di canto confondendolo in genere con il grido e lo strillo. E' così che l'ambiente è invaso dai peggiori ciarlatani come anche da altri in buona fede che "insegnano" a cantare. Bhè, è molto semplice: il suono armonico DEVE possedere risonanza per essere tale. Prenda un diapason e lo faccia vibrare: a vuoto sarà appena udibile ma se lo appoggia anche solo su un tavolo, ne uscirà un suono decuplicato. Questa è la medesima differenza tra una voce che grida, un falsetto rinforzato e una voce che CANTA. E non dimentichi che ogni suono armonico deve possedere TIMBRO - ALTEZZA e INTENSITA', qualità che sono state ben identificate.