Took me a while to create this video! I learned a bunch of new stuff making this video it was a really fun project. It's my first time ever making a long detailed guide and i can already see many points i would improve for the next video. Please also comment if there is anything you would like me to make a guide on or other content ideas. In chapter 4 there is an error on the time to recharge attempts on the flower field. Its 240min not 180min. You still wont need more than a max of 9 of these. Thanks to Nalds from pointing it out!
Bro can u help me? I was new to flora workshop and did not know what to do? I saw that selling stuff gave u coins and just sold everything. Now I have nothing on my flora workshop as I sold even the production centres. Am I stuck forever or can I do something?
You are not stuck! The chests you get from your house every 12 hours will give you parts you can combine to make new production stations, it might take a little while but thats where you will be able to start again@@Vishwa-gp5yn
Thank you so much for this guide. Extremely easy to follow and extremely useful! Glad I got to here, definetely one of the best guides for this game mode :D I upgraded my whole producing capabilities in just 30 minutes!
Nice to see an up and coming new Idle Heroes youtuber, who is actually giving his all in his content, rather than it just being lazy gameplay with nothing new in it. Looking forward to some new content, keep it coming!
5:27 Personally, I ALWAYS do the flash orders. My house is level 17 and the only thing stopping me from progressing are workshop coins. I have all of the required items for the next two levels, yet I still need 23k more workshop coins to go to level 18 and another 80 to reach level 19. The standing orders (to my knowledge) never refresh, so once you are out of them, the only way to get workshop coins is to sell your items. However, the flash orders will always give you more workshop coins than just straight up selling the items, which is why the flash orders (in my opinion) are actually worth it. 8:39 I have all maxed sewing machines and the idea of having lower-leveled ones never crossed my mind. Is the tradeoff of less production capacity for a higher chance of getting cloth worth it (i.e. 30 max capacity for a level 8 sewing machine, compared to the 60 capacity in a level 10)?
Yeah flash orders in my opinion is only worth it, if you dont have use for that specific item in building your hose, finished all the standing orders and you have room to spare extra items! Yes the trade off is lower production amounts, but thats why u just stack a bunch of them so the tradeoff wont really matter!
I’ll just comment kind of as the video goes. Definitely buy bread with your coins, especially as you have more of them. You have to keep making stuff so you need as much bread as possible so an extra 150 per day is worth buying. I would say don’t try to do the flash orders just like you say unless you accidentally get one then cash it in. You really don’t have to build your own production items once you are deeper into the game. The first two mini games will usually allow you to, steal those things from other people. That. Really the easiest way to get production stations. Plus a lot of times when mine are on the clock I will just wait till I get a new one and just sell timed out one and replace it with one that I’ve stolen. I didn’t know the highest level of the house was 20. Mine is at 19 so I was hoping it went even further. Another tip with those treasure chests. Don’t try to upgrade them if you steal ones that are the lowest level they seem to provide more bread than the higher level ones. Another kind of quirk with the game. With most of the items when you combine them they multiply. But with the croissants it really doesn’t matter. Just use them as you get them. Four plain croissants make a bag of croissants, but four of them are worth 25 each and a bag is worth 100 so might as well just immediately use them as you get them .
9:00 based on the thumbnail, I came to double check that this guide included this part. I thought maybe you were going to recommend the max level ones. Good to see this part was included about using level 8 ones. (= Has anyone gotten the main building to level 20 yet? I'm thinking that might be the end/highest level (I haven't quite made it there yet).
Yeah the lvl 8 tech is super important! Not sure if anyone is on 20 yet, maybe the highest ones on leaderboard. It is the highest level ur house can go for now atleast. Thanks for watching! :)
There has been a change since this came out. Frozen items are unfozen with 200 coins now instead of hearts. Regarding using coins, once you get a lvl 20 house you can start using them freely like buying bread and unfreezing items prematurely since i don't see any use for them anymore.
A wonderful guide, and i'm happy we think the same in the most of thinghs Just 2 observation 1)I use 24 lv 8 sewer machines and I use them all, you probably count 720 bread a day, but u normaly take 150-200 bread a day more than the normal charge. 2) You say that spend 500 coins for 50 bread is not whorted. I'm not really sure, i'm doing the maths but need more "experiments", but those are my first 2 tests, where i just look at what i sell from the "visits": a) using 150 breads i sold 700 coins (not close to 1500 that i wuold spend) b) using 300 breads i sold 7000 coins (much more than the 3000 i would spend) I need more test and more math, but i will not be so sure it realy doesn't worth it, i valueted just what i sold from "visits", than u have to add what u take for progress.
Yeah i agree on the sewing machines, thats why i wrote 18+ im pretty sure. I have like 30 off them now. on the bread thing i said never buyu bred for coins because what you get from visits is random, and its also random if you get the visits. So using the 50 bread you get from 500 coins will always net you less coins if you just sell what you produced Thank you so much for watching, and also the input and thoughts you are giving!
But also the entire gamemode needs more in depth math calculations to truly find THE most optimal route. Im guessing we will also see some updates to it in a not so distant future
@@LightIH i never bought bread whit coins, I felt it did not worth it. But now i noticed that i'm making a lot of coin selling all produduction staff (sewer machines etc.) that give 500 coins each. So i started to do a bit of math. Beeing totally random you need a lot of tests to can calculate a good approximation of avarage, but the first tests say that's not obvious that it's not worthed. It's important to say that a month ago you founded less good staff from visiting other players, now it's an important source of coins. I didn't count what u take directly from the bread, what i want to see is what u take just from visits, if spending 50 breads, avarage visiting profit is close to 500 coins, than u can say that what u create whit breads is totally profit. That's what i'm looking to test.
Now i tested 2500 breads, results are not definitive, but they are very indicative In 2.500 breads i got just from visit 27000 coins, and they would have cost 25000, so in avarage u got all your coins back + 2000 + what you have created whit bread. obviuosly it's a big up and down, the best resoults was 20 coins for 1 bread, the wrost was 0.5 coins for 1 bread, because sometimes u got very low, sometimes u got very high (normaly if u find lot of valuable object, or if u find more breads, and that happens more often that what u feel)
Actually, when using the cube on a default base, it is better to grab the sewing parts and other spots around the house, it contains the cat base parts and its worth the most coins
I prefer to do other places in case they have actually done some floras, what i have experienced is that they usually hide good stuff in the corners. Both are very viable strategies tho! 😊
@@LightIH First I saw the level and quantity of the items necessary for the standing order and used it to calculate the total amount of bread (or clicks, in a way) necessary, let me give 2 examples. Order 1 (Dresses): Items: 1-lv5 1-lv7 1-lv8 Amount of bread: 1*2^(5-1) + 1*2^(7-1) + 1*2^(8-1) = 208 breads Order 2 (Flowers): Items: 1-lv4 6-lv5 Amount of bread: 1*2^(4-1) + 6*2^(5-1) = 104 breads Finally I just divided the amount hearts and coins for the amount of bread necessary for each order, essentialy calculating the heart/bread effiency of the order. Order 1 (Dresses): 2080 coins and 120 hearts, dividing by 208 we have: 10 coins/bread and 0.57 hearts/bread Order 2 (Flowers): 1560 coins and 88 hearts, dividing by 104 we have: 17.7 coins/bread and 0.84 hearts/bread So its significantly better! Now of course I'm calculating for the orders I have right now, if you could do it for yourself and posts the results would be nice =).
Yeah the short term might be better, but you run out of those fast, and later on you gain an insane amount from clothning compared. So the optimal strategy might be to do flowers first then move on to clothning. But i havent done the math on what would be the most optimal over a longer time period. Problem is i dont have the pics or data on the orders ive already completed, so i would have to try and gather all of those to do the complete math. I would believe the clothning starts to outperform after you have completed 1 or 2 of the standing orders of both. Thanks for sharing the numbers! @@ozuromo
did they change the level 20 requirements? currently, I'm at lvl 19 main house and it shows to level to 20 (255 stone per 12h) I need 5 fish plates, 5 max cakes and 5 max shirts
They have shipped some new flora updates whilst making the video and some after, so that might have been changed. Too bad DH games dosent give us any patch notes so we could see :(
@@LightIH ty bro, i skipped few sections of the vid so i missed it out. However, great and detailed vid bro, hope you can produce quality content like this in the future
This is a bit hard, but you need to wait for chests and combine everything you get from chests to make production stations, then when you can start making new resources from your new stations, theen u can begin playing
1 more tip i would say is to dont buy bag space even if you need it and there are some resources that you dont use sitting there. Because eventually you will run out of standing quests and have to do flash orders or just randomly generate stuff to steal some stuff to sell to get the coins. You need 180k coins to upgrade your house from 18 to 20 which is a lot. And you dont need 9 sand pots just 4 is fine.
Улучшил дом до 16 и бросил это дело. Вместо того, чтобы зайти в игру и потратить 5 минут на то, чтобы собрать награды, я тратил по 3 чертовых часа на этот режим. Больше я этого делать не буду, лишь собирать раз в 2 - 3 дня эти сердечки. Рано или поздно накопится
Took me a while to create this video! I learned a bunch of new stuff making this video it was a really fun project. It's my first time ever making a long detailed guide and i can already see many points i would improve for the next video. Please also comment if there is anything you would like me to make a guide on or other content ideas.
In chapter 4 there is an error on the time to recharge attempts on the flower field. Its 240min not 180min. You still wont need more than a max of 9 of these. Thanks to Nalds from pointing it out!
Bro can u help me? I was new to flora workshop and did not know what to do? I saw that selling stuff gave u coins and just sold everything. Now I have nothing on my flora workshop as I sold even the production centres. Am I stuck forever or can I do something?
You are not stuck! The chests you get from your house every 12 hours will give you parts you can combine to make new production stations, it might take a little while but thats where you will be able to start again@@Vishwa-gp5yn
yo light, remember me from a server around christmas? My user was xayplays
Yessir!@@Michael_XW
HI thanks for the guide but i have now 10 items frozen, i thougt you said that the maximum was 5?
god it's been so long since I've seen a proper guide like this! thank you so much for the big help my dude!
Fantastic vid! straight to the point and clear as well!
Thank you so much for watching!
Thank you so much for this guide. Extremely easy to follow and extremely useful! Glad I got to here, definetely one of the best guides for this game mode :D
I upgraded my whole producing capabilities in just 30 minutes!
Thank you so much for the kind words sir! Glad it was of any use 🫡
been searching for one since forever. thanks for this, man
Thanks for watching Jviz
Nice to see an up and coming new Idle Heroes youtuber, who is actually giving his all in his content, rather than it just being lazy gameplay with nothing new in it. Looking forward to some new content, keep it coming!
What a great compliment! Thank you so much ✨✨
Perfect tutorial. Amazing work bro.
Thank you!
The long awaited return❤
We back ^^
@@LightIH hell yea
Appreciate the guide Light 🙏
Thanks for watching!
Combine items for example chests will be better when they have half of their capacity, because when you upgrade them capacity will stack up
Most of the production items can be found in the chests but that’s not the case for soil so where do u get soil?
Soil is also in the chests 👌🏻
5:27 Personally, I ALWAYS do the flash orders. My house is level 17 and the only thing stopping me from progressing are workshop coins. I have all of the required items for the next two levels, yet I still need 23k more workshop coins to go to level 18 and another 80 to reach level 19. The standing orders (to my knowledge) never refresh, so once you are out of them, the only way to get workshop coins is to sell your items. However, the flash orders will always give you more workshop coins than just straight up selling the items, which is why the flash orders (in my opinion) are actually worth it.
8:39 I have all maxed sewing machines and the idea of having lower-leveled ones never crossed my mind. Is the tradeoff of less production capacity for a higher chance of getting cloth worth it (i.e. 30 max capacity for a level 8 sewing machine, compared to the 60 capacity in a level 10)?
Yeah flash orders in my opinion is only worth it, if you dont have use for that specific item in building your hose, finished all the standing orders and you have room to spare extra items!
Yes the trade off is lower production amounts, but thats why u just stack a bunch of them so the tradeoff wont really matter!
Thank you so much for this..i was so perplexed for a very long time with this gamemode ..also you are really cute hehe have a great day
Thank you very much! If you have any questions, dont hesitate to send me a message on discord ✨
I’ll just comment kind of as the video goes. Definitely buy bread with your coins, especially as you have more of them. You have to keep making stuff so you need as much bread as possible so an extra 150 per day is worth buying. I would say don’t try to do the flash orders just like you say unless you accidentally get one then cash it in. You really don’t have to build your own production items once you are deeper into the game. The first two mini games will usually allow you to, steal those things from other people. That. Really the easiest way to get production stations. Plus a lot of times when mine are on the clock I will just wait till I get a new one and just sell timed out one and replace it with one that I’ve stolen. I didn’t know the highest level of the house was 20. Mine is at 19 so I was hoping it went even further. Another tip with those treasure chests. Don’t try to upgrade them if you steal ones that are the lowest level they seem to provide more bread than the higher level ones. Another kind of quirk with the game. With most of the items when you combine them they multiply. But with the croissants it really doesn’t matter. Just use them as you get them. Four plain croissants make a bag of croissants, but four of them are worth 25 each and a bag is worth 100 so might as well just immediately use them as you get them .
Yep all of this is valid and good tips, after more thinking and feedback i should have included this! Thank you for adding
9:00 based on the thumbnail, I came to double check that this guide included this part. I thought maybe you were going to recommend the max level ones.
Good to see this part was included about using level 8 ones. (=
Has anyone gotten the main building to level 20 yet? I'm thinking that might be the end/highest level (I haven't quite made it there yet).
Yeah the lvl 8 tech is super important! Not sure if anyone is on 20 yet, maybe the highest ones on leaderboard. It is the highest level ur house can go for now atleast.
Thanks for watching! :)
I am at level 20 as of yesterday? It is max. No longer need coins really so it just becomes an idle game waiting for the production of hearts.
yep, could continue pumping out dress orders for faster heart gains@@joelm7208
w guide, just got 2 lvl 10 sewing machines from swordman's glove (new at the mode) pretty good
There has been a change since this came out. Frozen items are unfozen with 200 coins now instead of hearts.
Regarding using coins, once you get a lvl 20 house you can start using them freely like buying bread and unfreezing items prematurely since i don't see any use for them anymore.
Yes that is correct!
A wonderful guide, and i'm happy we think the same in the most of thinghs
Just 2 observation
1)I use 24 lv 8 sewer machines and I use them all, you probably count 720 bread a day, but u normaly take 150-200 bread a day more than the normal charge.
2) You say that spend 500 coins for 50 bread is not whorted. I'm not really sure, i'm doing the maths but need more "experiments", but those are my first 2 tests, where i just look at what i sell from the "visits": a) using 150 breads i sold 700 coins (not close to 1500 that i wuold spend) b) using 300 breads i sold 7000 coins (much more than the 3000 i would spend)
I need more test and more math, but i will not be so sure it realy doesn't worth it, i valueted just what i sold from "visits", than u have to add what u take for progress.
Yeah i agree on the sewing machines, thats why i wrote 18+ im pretty sure. I have like 30 off them now.
on the bread thing i said never buyu bred for coins because what you get from visits is random, and its also random if you get the visits. So using the 50 bread you get from 500 coins will always net you less coins if you just sell what you produced
Thank you so much for watching, and also the input and thoughts you are giving!
But also the entire gamemode needs more in depth math calculations to truly find THE most optimal route. Im guessing we will also see some updates to it in a not so distant future
@@LightIH
i never bought bread whit coins, I felt it did not worth it. But now i noticed that i'm making a lot of coin selling all produduction staff (sewer machines etc.) that give 500 coins each. So i started to do a bit of math. Beeing totally random you need a lot of tests to can calculate a good approximation of avarage, but the first tests say that's not obvious that it's not worthed.
It's important to say that a month ago you founded less good staff from visiting other players, now it's an important source of coins.
I didn't count what u take directly from the bread, what i want to see is what u take just from visits, if spending 50 breads, avarage visiting profit is close to 500 coins, than u can say that what u create whit breads is totally profit. That's what i'm looking to test.
Now i tested 2500 breads, results are not definitive, but they are very indicative
In 2.500 breads i got just from visit 27000 coins, and they would have cost 25000, so in avarage u got all your coins back + 2000 + what you have created whit bread.
obviuosly it's a big up and down, the best resoults was 20 coins for 1 bread, the wrost was 0.5 coins for 1 bread, because sometimes u got very low, sometimes u got very high (normaly if u find lot of valuable object, or if u find more breads, and that happens more often that what u feel)
dude big thanks
I didnt know what to do at the start so i sold all the items is it possible to produce them? Such as the cookies
I did the same mistake
Actually, when using the cube on a default base, it is better to grab the sewing parts and other spots around the house, it contains the cat base parts and its worth the most coins
I prefer to do other places in case they have actually done some floras, what i have experienced is that they usually hide good stuff in the corners. Both are very viable strategies tho! 😊
@@LightIH Yeah, I have been doing the corner strat at first but rarely got something good, I guess do what works better for you 🤜
Hey you still here? Im just wondering does the star arcade reset? And if so when? Im also gonna ask if the standing order reset aswell
Can i Resets workshops? .Because i sell anything in chapters 1
I did the math and the best value one is actually the flowers standing order. :D
Oh interesting, could you explain the thought process?
@@LightIH First I saw the level and quantity of the items necessary for the standing order and used it to calculate the total amount of bread (or clicks, in a way) necessary, let me give 2 examples.
Order 1 (Dresses):
Items: 1-lv5 1-lv7 1-lv8
Amount of bread: 1*2^(5-1) + 1*2^(7-1) + 1*2^(8-1) = 208 breads
Order 2 (Flowers):
Items: 1-lv4 6-lv5
Amount of bread: 1*2^(4-1) + 6*2^(5-1) = 104 breads
Finally I just divided the amount hearts and coins for the amount of bread necessary for each order, essentialy calculating the heart/bread effiency of the order.
Order 1 (Dresses): 2080 coins and 120 hearts, dividing by 208 we have: 10 coins/bread and 0.57 hearts/bread
Order 2 (Flowers): 1560 coins and 88 hearts, dividing by 104 we have: 17.7 coins/bread and 0.84 hearts/bread
So its significantly better! Now of course I'm calculating for the orders I have right now, if you could do it for yourself and posts the results would be nice =).
Yeah the short term might be better, but you run out of those fast, and later on you gain an insane amount from clothning compared. So the optimal strategy might be to do flowers first then move on to clothning. But i havent done the math on what would be the most optimal over a longer time period.
Problem is i dont have the pics or data on the orders ive already completed, so i would have to try and gather all of those to do the complete math. I would believe the clothning starts to outperform after you have completed 1 or 2 of the standing orders of both. Thanks for sharing the numbers! @@ozuromo
What are you using to play idle heroes on pc,it works so smooth
im useing the google play beta app
@@LightIHYo bro what editing app do you use for these videos?
Hey man, i use Davinci Resolve 18, super good free software@@lukanjegus2004
I can finnaly understood flora's
Hopefully it helps!
Love this!
Thank you for watching!
Thank you so much
how can i reset the mini game i sold base things cuz i didnt understanded the mini game
You cant reset, but the chests you get in your house every 12 hours will give u stuff to make new production items
did they change the level 20 requirements?
currently, I'm at lvl 19 main house and it shows to level to 20 (255 stone per 12h) I need 5 fish plates, 5 max cakes and 5 max shirts
They have shipped some new flora updates whilst making the video and some after, so that might have been changed. Too bad DH games dosent give us any patch notes so we could see :(
tips for lolita:
use level 8 sewing machine instead of level 10, since when you take a look at the lootable, dress materials are easier to drop.
Yes great tips! i Also mention this in the production chapter
@@LightIH ty bro, i skipped few sections of the vid so i missed it out. However, great and detailed vid bro, hope you can produce quality content like this in the future
Thank you so much man! will try to keep it up@@artorias11
I missed selling them all, is there any way to buy them back
No but you get with the chests that you get every 12 hours
Bro I get 5 clothing machine in Frozen mana so the player unfreeze their machine can I lost my machine
I didn’t even know the first part lol
Bro at the start my items are frozen and i dont have enough tokens to unfreeze this what do i do
This is a bit hard, but you need to wait for chests and combine everything you get from chests to make production stations, then when you can start making new resources from your new stations, theen u can begin playing
How long does it take to max?
Quite a long time, i dont have specifics, but a month +
When i first opened the game i sold everything 😭 what to do now
Use chests from house it might take 2-3 days but your not stuck
@@joseph2922I stole 5 max station from someone using manavube
very nice guide,
Thank you!
How to get metal flakes?
use cat station to get lvl 4 item, this will produce metal flakes
Should be mentioned that the production stations doesnt fill up when in the bag
Pretty sure i mention this during the video 😊
Maxed sewing machines in the thumbnail? My board is full of mini sewing machines for a higher relative drop rate on women's clothing
Yeah the maxed was just edited in to make an appealing thumbnail, lvl 8 ones are better mostly
How you can skip low Level Accounts
1 more tip i would say is to dont buy bag space even if you need it and there are some resources that you dont use sitting there.
Because eventually you will run out of standing quests and have to do flash orders or just randomly generate stuff to steal some stuff to sell to get the coins.
You need 180k coins to upgrade your house from 18 to 20 which is a lot.
And you dont need 9 sand pots just 4 is fine.
Улучшил дом до 16 и бросил это дело. Вместо того, чтобы зайти в игру и потратить 5 минут на то, чтобы собрать награды, я тратил по 3 чертовых часа на этот режим. Больше я этого делать не буду, лишь собирать раз в 2 - 3 дня эти сердечки. Рано или поздно накопится
Yeah, takes alot of time this mode
Links to those images at end be nice.
You can find them under "fantasy arcade" on this discord: discord.com/invite/jujXkku
I sold my production things what now
I did it at start
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