🤣🤣🤣the US has to accuse SA... No electricity .. President hiding dollars under mattress ... Prisoners escaping ... Highest rate of unemployment .. The list is endless....🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂 in south Africa we are black Russians ❤️ we are who we are today because of Russia ...I'm proud of who ever provided Russia with weapons and I think south Africa need to send more....what a good move by SA ...uuuurrrrra❤
The US is supplying Ukraine with weapons to defend their country. South Africa is supplying Russia with weapons ( if it is true) to attack and invade another country.
Well its the south africa that survives thanks to us humanitarian aid and not the other way around, continue like this and you will become like cuba in no time
Russia invaded and occupy Ukraine. Ukraine is defending itself. There is a difference between supplying Russia with weapons so they can continue looting, raping, torturing and killing men, women and children. Bombing infrastructure and people homes and occupying their land. Or supplying the people to defend themself against Russias attack and war crimes. South Africa is helping Russia commit all this war crimes and you are commenting like you support this.
There is no games, there is only trade. SA's economy needs to effectively stay in motion. We don't suck up to US nor are we supposed to suck up to China or Russia. We have to stay neutral, whilst maintaining economic growth. It's already hard for small and large businesses to build themselves up with loadshedding, if we get sanctioned then we will be in a much faster death spiral. We definitely should not get involved with international politics, because SA simply cannot afford it.
@@resphantom Check, trade is also part of the game and the US corner SA knowing that willl triger emotions. All we need is a stable trade partnership. For now a relationship with the US is an abusive relationship. In simple terms, does not do any good for SA and not sustainable. Let's not forget the global economics are shifting and South Africa needs to position itself and for a long term. On a final note, understand how the US work or play their game, you will understand this move through their ambassador. If not, you will allow thier emotional blackmail.
@@trevoryingwane5714 I agree that the US likes to push narrative, but what does the US have to gain by blackmailing us? I think this might've either been a misunderstanding or our Government actually did pick a side internationally, which is dangerous, because then we will no longer be a neutral country and SA will probably loose a large majority of our trade. Hopefully SA can provide adequate facts quickly, otherwise assumptions will be made.
Imagine living in a country where the government who takes your tax and leaves you broke at month end, does not represent the taxpayers. Mind-blowing. Nobody can deny that tax in SA is a wealth redistribution mechanism and clearly a means of manipulation. What a strange world where taxpayers don't benefit from paying tax. However, anyone who doesn't pay tax, benefits substantially if the monarchy feels it is necessary
So what if they do? It’s not really the business of the US, who has played a major part in creating and prolonging this conflict in the first place. If they can send weapons to Ukraine, others can send weapons to Russia if they want to. Or does SA’s sovereignty suddenly doesn’t count anymore? They are free to make their own decisions.
Fully agree! The current US Government are hypocrites. If our country is able to supply for such demand, why not. It will great if South Africa and the citizens of it benefitted from this somehow, you know, such as Russia helping us erect a couple of Nuclear power stations in record time. However it would be very sad if these dealings involved money that only benefits a few at the top.
Ukraine is not invading another country it's defending itself against Russia's attack and occupation. They have all right to defend themself just as any nation under attack.
Why the lack of a specific accusation by the US? Something in the line of "A Russian ship docked at Simonstown naval base in December 2022, and loaded South African manufactured 156 mm howitzer shells (or whatever ammunition) before departing. The eNCA hosts take it to the next level without being specific enough either. Ramaposa's reported response actually sounded natural and logical.
the u.s Said it has proof I'm sure they going to share it with other governments n the opposition this is a huge problem for s.a last thing they want is sanctions by their biggest trade partner
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..yeah totally nothing to be suspicious about, probably just a bunch of vuvuzelas being loaded onto the russian cargo ship right? We'll see how natural and logical Rama sounds when the US decides to sanction us, you think the BRICS nations will come to our rescue?
But South Africa should have issues with being part of Russia's occupation and war crimes. What have the people of Ukraine done to South Africa to deserve this?
My guy how you happy in making profit wt someone's tears 😭 24/7 ukraine is fighting for their recognition as a country and u here telling us we jus making money we not helping russia 😅you my guy throw away that bullshit mentality of yours and by the way NB: not SA is making money out of this... Its for the a-lister only you u can enjoy that stage 10 loadshedding 😅😅😅😅
Abu Smith, can you not see, who profits the most of war in Ukraine? The Americans arms manufactures. They supply the most arms in that war, by a country mile, and the whole world know that.
@@terrencepeters9203 Russia started the war and when there is war, arms manufacturers make money, that's how it works. If Russia did not invade Ukraine companies would not earn money on the war in Ukraine.
@@Nubbe999 hey something wrong with you? Everyone knows it's the USA/CIA who started that conflict in Ukraine, it works to their twisted benefit. They Kill thousands of people annually round the world since the sixties
U mean the world of whom? America? United Divided Kingdom? Let ur world arrest George Bush and Obama!!! Let ur world pay reparations and leave Black Africans and Africa's minerals and wealth includind food production and the African Development Programme to be led by Africans alone...
@@yolandaventer6550 So there! You said it yourself, Banana Republic, no brains, no resources, no nothing. So where is the weapons of mass destruction, that you white people of South Africa so readily believe the CIA lies.
In summary, what threat is SA to Western Europe and the US. With regards to infrastructure and arms SA is a toddler, and they are grown men. Why paint a picture like there is any real threat. There is a long route between SA and Russia, anything can be intercepted at any time. It is either an over defensive west or a preamble to use a far away land as home to their battles. In this case, I'd prefer the ANC and DA etc work together vs jumping to publicly fight. Neither the US or Russia cares about SA more than they care about themselves.
Maby this is something we need , to wake the hell up , we had santions before , it made the country stronger, Sasol was a product that came out of it .
@@rainbow2323 lol nope... Sasol was establised in the 1950s (when America was on good terms with S.A) The apartheid sanctions came in 1986. Thats is the main reason Apartheid ended. The government at the time stopped getting military support from the USA (lol to stop communists they said) and the National Party became super weak cuz the opposition was getting supplies from Russia and other African countries. The NP did not have income anymore (because of sanctions) and no military support from the USA. This is what forced the South African elite at the time to negotiate in the CODESA meetings which resulted in this sham of a democracy So NO!!!!! sanctions will criple us unless we have good leaders who can unite with the rest of Africa... lol but our leaders are clowns🤣
So it's okay to be dictated to because we are afraid if being sanctioned, isn't that what we joined brics for, to stop being bullied by western Europe and America. All these other 4 bric country are big economies. What has the ICC done for Africa, if you'll follow? And America, Security Council, Nato??? Except fill our heads with their propaganda 🤨😏😔disappointing.
I'm not a ANC supporter and not into politics......is there anything DA is helping in SA? and what is it doing about loadshedding instead of criticizing the ANC. we know somehow it does have power, but now I see it as a toothless dog always Blah blah blah!😂
Are we shocked not at all! Isn't th criminal Zuma still on trial for the arms deal years ago. Start arresting ppl already this is insulting to us ppl who actually know whats what!
@@patmdoda9567 no im honest and have a memory longer thdn 5 days. Arms deal Zuma, how can we be shocked to know anc sold killing items to a country at war going against the international laws? Oh I forgot only anc can kill a country, steal Trillians and break laws cause they are freedom fighters??? I don't think so
The DA wants to be politically correct and doesn’t take into consideration the relationship we have with Russia compared to US, nobody Sanctioned the US for the damage they did to Japan, and yet they want to dictate who we choose to side with.
You mean back then when Japanese Empire attacked and killed millions of Chinese? And the same Japan that bombed Pearl Harbour in an open act of aggression? They are allies now I think.
@@fransduvenage4777 Your delusional. Carry on SA and BRICS. I am neutral on this, but BRICS, if you want to support Russia, so you should. You have the power to turn things in your favor. Dedollarization is THE way to stop the control of the West. That said, I do not want the control of the East either, haha. I say West and NATO, if you can supply Ukraine, then the BRICS can supply Russia. As much as the West breed hate to hear that, it is true, so stop whining all the time, your such whiny breeders.
Because we are not in position to do so it's like a child acting up to his parents same situation here I suggest you sit down and leave your arrogance at home
US is spying on everyone, just like China, Russia, India, South Africa and many other countries does. So South Africa is supporting Russia's invasion and war crimes with weapons?
When we were being oppressed (it happened to everyone, one way or another) the ANC agreed warmly with the call for an arms embargo and sanctions against our oppressive government, to diminish its capacity to do harm, and force it to end its aggression. So how is it that now, when Ukraine is being quite obviously oppressed every bit as badly as we once were (or much, much worse, if you measure this by body count) suddenly that same ANC is quite happy to get in on a bit of sanctions busting, and won't speak out on behalf of the oppressed, itself? What happened to them?? What has become of these fighters for justice? How on Earth did they become friends of the oppressors? You can't even call this "paying back a favour" (given a history that edits out the main reasons there was change, and crayons in a story of how, with the help of the nice Soviet uncle, just the ANC forced the society we're now in to happen). This is not the "Russia" (more correctly, USSR) that paid for the ANC to destabilize rivals in a global game played for Soviet interests, alone. This Russian government is made up of the thugs that looted the USSR, and pushed it deeper into the Dark Ages. These are the guys who destroyed the Soviet Union (or doubled down on that destruction). They might as well be bloody Czarists. The only thing they have from those times (apart from loot) is the name of one SSR - the Russian one. What I mean is that there is not even an _irrational_ justification for the position this government is putting the country in. And it's worse. The very thing they essentially owe their power to, they're trying to help destroy. The people who made freedom (instead of decades of struggle and death) happen, and who, until the first signs of how worthless this organization was showed, took measures to try to help the country undo the harm the National Party regimes of the past had done (with some small, and arguably necessary help from the liberation movements - all of them); these are the people the ANC wants to destroy. This is the world they're setting out to undermine by helping Russia attempt to destroy Ukraine. It's called turning on your true friends (at least as far as there can be true friends in global politics). A good case could be made that it's even biting the hand that feeds.
@@xy8083 why don’t you go to front and fight the ukrain who helped as part of Soviet Union during apartheid that is all Russia wants our land our money they don’t give a sh&t about you or any of us I don’t know if a single but of aid given to any township by Russia not a single soup kitchen even …, nothing! They don’t even treat South Africans in Russia like humans but as third class citizens they have nothing at all in common with any African state except how they can colonise and extract wealth from corrupt leaders they are not your friend in any sense
What I have learnt abt John Steenhuisen is that he cares more about Ukrainians that the people of SA. Fellow South Africans are suffering at his door step yet I don't see half the urgency he shows when attending to the Ukrainians. Wow!
Alice dear, what do you think will happen to ordinary South Africans if USA imposes sanctions, which is what they are about to do? That is what Mr STEENHUISEN is trying to avoid. Maybe think things through before making wild accusations.
Not only that!! Ramaphosa and his Clan have not given a damn about the SA citizens ever since the ANC has been in control. Clearly this one is fast asleep. SA is a mess, and she’s worried a about Where the DA leaders loyalty lies, MY GOD!!!!!
@@Quadruple8888 Yes, I am worried abt this man in particular. Because this is a man who wants my vote in next year's elections. I want to put my faith in a leader who will put me first as a citizen of this country, not people in another country. Charity begins at home. Before you can sort out other people's issues, should you not start with your own? When last did John visit Khayelitsha??
@@dianathompson8794 Dear Diana, maybe you should follow your own advise and think before you comment. And also make sure you understand the context before you post. I am merely indicating my observations abt John steenhuisen's conduct and honestly his conduct doest give me peace of mind because I wanna elect a leader who will look after my interests ahead of other nations. We have enough problems as it is. What makes Ukranians more important than people in Delft and Langa? These areas are under his leadership and they deserve his attention too. FYI, before a sanction can be imposed, there has to be clear evidence of SA providing Russia with weapons. These are allegations and are yet to be proven. You will remember John steenhuisen went as far a contacting the FBI regarding the US currency found at phalaphala farm but where did that go? NOWHERE! Do you ever wonder why the FBI never got anywhere with that matter? He is going on another wild goose chase and quite frankly, he shouldn't waste his breath.
Exactly. Like in America. South Africa should silence and sidelines all this white politicians. These people never like black people in good position. All they want is too sabotage every day of the government.
immigration becomes more difficult the worse reputation our country gets. We only have a handful socialist dictator driven countries we can immigrate to. It's too late already, I tried.
farewell travel safe .... most of us have no other home but here i am PROUD SOUTH AFRICAN. like we fought for freedom we do this again this time for the survival of SOUTH AFRICA ... we are a democracy not perfect not we are a democracy
This Dutch man John Steenheizen must now his Dutch roots..They stole alord from us ...He himself believe an allugation...What tipe of thinking is that....We didn't forget what the Dutch people did to our Forefathers...
Ramaphosa actually got us to export Corn to China. That's a win. Stop being a Negative Nancy, we owe the USA nothing. It's just business. And we all know the USA is a big fat liar after what they did to Gadaffi, it would be nice to partner with Russia and China for backup if they decide to do THAT to us. They are launching smear campaigns to invade us. Voetsek.
What South Africa done we call it investment on return those who know the history of South Africa Russia support us during the difficult time there's no problem when we give them weapon
They did not support the struggle. They only pretended. Did you really fall for that? They used the struggle to fight their Cold War in Africa. They feel nothing for Africans Wake up . Study true history.
The US ambassador apologized. I doubt if Mr Steenhuyzen will do likewise, for what fundamentally was nothing but political opportunism on behalf of the DA (Democratic Alliance).
Well the National Party/DA clearly will stand with Ukraine. Understand this Russia was with Black South Africa when apartheid was thriving in SA. Most South Africans DO NOT stand with the US amd clearly DA your vote is lost. No im not standing with the ANC but definately not the DA.
Its funny most south African keep on talking Abt the help of Russian federation during apartheid,bt the facts is there was the Soviet union at that time,the USSR helped SA ND Ukraine was part of the Soviet union training south Africans too
@@mfundomkhonta7500 you are correct my brother but in this instance Ukraine is like a young brother that is astray needs a little bit of re alignment. Subsequently power is shifting from the west to the east which is long overdue NATO and the United states of America in particular have been the aggressor for a long time. Before Volodymyr Zelenskyy became president he was a stand up comedian so Putin and BRICS don't have time for jokes the guy doesn't have a idea that this is a proxy war it is the US and NATO trying to infiltrate Russia by expanding east in continuously forcing Ukraine to join NATO. Too hell with America and NATO infact South Africa should pull out of the Commonwealth
Guys, i am sorry to say, your ego is making you hopelessly deluded. So you really want to tell the US to go to hell? And you claim to have the interests of the poor majority at heart? Tell me, how much trade surplus do we get from the US vs Russia, even China? You are all willing to say 'to hell with AGOA'- well, when the US actually puts us under sanctions, i hope you will remember your stance right now.
@@themba4466 hw is Ukraine yo enemy ,ND tell me hw is NATO yo enemy ,bc as we speak SA s biggest trading partners are all NATO members ,less than two percent with Russia
Which trouble. White South Africans think there are clever, you want to create a scarecrow tactict as if America is God. Let them go to he'll for we are never gonna follow their line of march and the sooner you get this the better
If someone come to my house lie and accuse me of doing something illegally without able to provide any evidence, I will sure escort him to my house door and kick him out of my house immediately without a minute of delay. South Africa should escort him to the nearest airport and say goodbye to him.
The ANC had made it very clear that we are on Russias side. So what's all the fuss about. Of course they helping Russia, but is Russia gonna help S.A. with their energy crisis..?
Yeah. One of these days, just like in Sudan, out of nowhere (usa) we will see attempted coup d'etat or civil war or others calling the current government a illegitimate regime. Many nations have been destroyed to establish this "democracy" of the americans.
Nope. Whites are just worried because they can't control black people. That's all. Stop worrying about us, leave if you want to. I definitely don't USA democracy, you'll find an entire generation who can't tell you what the definition of a woman is.
Imagine while Russia doesn’t have any investment in South Africa keep playing with UE USA and soon 🔜 you will all know the real meaning of the word unemployment 🥱🥱
If Russia payd for it... show me the money... with the country hungry and without jobs.. where did all that lovely lolly go... why bother asking... we all know..and there will be no consequences....
Your John is spreading a lie that is being perpetuated by the US. Do you still remember lies about weapons of mass destruction? Iraq was razed to the ground after this lie
😂😂😂😂haaa I di not know US is scared of SA.we have nothing here we are not war people.wuere will we touch Russia?? WOW,US must know it's fights ,and focus on it.😂😂😂😂😂😂
What’s new from our leadership which seems to find themselves always on the wrong side of credible and trustworthy decisions.But this is very critical accusations and the US should rather bring out the irrefutable proof if that indeed be the case. If they do Ramaphosa will be internationally vilified as a liar and this will have very serious consequences for the man on the street in SA. This is not internal party politics for power play but global affairs that can break countries. Got forbid US is wrong with this.
I don't trust Ramaphosa. ANC is too cosy with Russia and Putin is playing Ramaphosa. We should be neutral and this shadow support for Russia will cost South Africa dearly.
If every person in South Africa had an IQ of at least 85 I am telling you all of our problems would go away. The problem isn't the Government and horrible leadership, the problem is us because we are the ones who vote with idiocy and ignorance, we are also the ones who give all the power and responsibility to leaders who are not only low IQ, but are corrupt and obsessed with self gain.
Sad to see our so called democratic country in this mess. This is not the will of the people of SA as we stand behind Ukrain and peace. The ANC quickly forgetten who our true allies are.
Thomas James, please speak for yourself. It's only the white people of South Africa that stand with Ukraine, because they are CIA/NATO followers. The majority of South Africa is anti CIA/NATO
Which SA are you from that stands with Ukraine ? Am i the only one who thinks you are blaffing by merely saying "we" ? you and which South Africans ? You and who? We stand with Russia one way... I sense you are white
@@morathipetrus2751 i stand with Russia against nato expansionism, i stand with libya, dont worry, hes a paid comenter probably. Most side with brics. We are Brics. Why on earth wouldnt we stand with our alliance?
i now get your point clearly but i don't think the stand point of Russia in this point because Russia initiated peace but Ukraine refused the conditions because US denied the peace making since they profit from this war., Clearly you cannot say a puppet is looking for peace and be normal, remember it is Ukraine that compromised the national security of Russia by allowing willingly Nato to expand through their boarders knowing very well the intentions of Nato and the outcomes of it and how Russia will respond as any country would if placed in that situation. I still don't get it when people like you still believe that the puppet is looking for peace. Russia on the other hand is a superpower which i believe cannot under any circumstances allow manipulations of US which destroy so many countries in order to take what they want. Ukraine does NOT/Under any circumstance represent peace= zero
I am shocked that people believed this story. You want to tell me that small ship to weeks to get to SA to load ammunition and head back to Russia. During that voyage, Russia was bombing Ukraine with precision missiles, and they asked SA for ammunitions? Really???? Remember just after accusing SA on that, the West turned on SAs fellow BRICS nations with threats. What type of ammunitions should Russia get from SA was not mentioned
if SA keeps aligning with BRICS it might go back to its pre~2000 sanctions era it will destroy your economy, remember SA is not that important to the western market and the reason why they havent sanction you because they think south africa can rejoin the western world but theyre starting to think it wint rejoin
EFF leaders has lots of insight in politics same could be said about Musi Maimane ,Zungula and Bantu holomisa 🙏🏽then we have Da that are politics dwarfs with no insight at all scoring political own goals every moment 🤦♂️
@@bzilla-d4i in terms of what?coz it has Cape Town which naturally a beautiful place ?if your a South African I’ll be so worried coz clearly you have no idea about the history of this country ..
Um.... Everyone not living under a rock? The writing has been on the walls for YEARS! and if you think SA has it rough now... Just you wait... ANC is entering its end-game. There will be mass killings. There will be sanctions imposed on South Africa. There will be complete "military" take over. The country will be worse off than the state that Zimbabwe went through.
Steenhuisen should be in Ukraine right now, he will fit right in. 😂and let the democratically elected Party/government run SA even if it is perceived incompetent by some.
What ammo we don't even have electricity.........
😂😂😂 Waarheid 😂
Same thoughts 🤣🤣🤣
Everything is crumbling really the accusations are high level for SA🤣🤣🤣
I wonder if we supplied them or did they supply the ANC🫣
We are frogs in the pot. It’s starting to boil.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣♿
🤣🤣🤣the US has to accuse SA...
No electricity ..
President hiding dollars under mattress ...
Prisoners escaping ...
Highest rate of unemployment ..
The list is endless....🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂 in south Africa we are black Russians ❤️ we are who we are today because of Russia ...I'm proud of who ever provided Russia with weapons and I think south Africa need to send more....what a good move by SA ...uuuurrrrra❤
SIMPLE
Russia woos you blacks for a reason! Beware!
John, we don’t even have electricity, so where will we get ammunition from to give to Russia!
They did
..I live 2 mins from Simonstown.
People living there saw it happen.
During the night under armed guard.
Thank you Mr Steenhuizen
How and why is the USA allowed to be meddling in our affairs, very undermining
Agoa yields good profits!
South Africa accuses United States of supplying weapons and ammunition to Ukraine
Yes we should cancel their tariff free access to our MASSIVE world beating economy. That will show those US economic lightweights
The US is supplying Ukraine with weapons to defend their country. South Africa is supplying Russia with weapons ( if it is true) to attack and invade another country.
Well its the south africa that survives thanks to us humanitarian aid and not the other way around, continue like this and you will become like cuba in no time
Russia invaded and occupy Ukraine. Ukraine is defending itself. There is a difference between supplying Russia with weapons so they can continue looting, raping, torturing and killing men, women and children. Bombing infrastructure and people homes and occupying their land.
Or supplying the people to defend themself against Russias attack and war crimes. South Africa is helping Russia commit all this war crimes and you are commenting like you support this.
John is further loosing his credibility of falling for the US tactics without any understanding of how they play their games.
... hey, USA, get the phuq out of South Africa !!!!!!!!!!! ...... Z.
There is no games, there is only trade. SA's economy needs to effectively stay in motion.
We don't suck up to US nor are we supposed to suck up to China or Russia. We have to stay neutral, whilst maintaining economic growth.
It's already hard for small and large businesses to build themselves up with loadshedding, if we get sanctioned then we will be in a much faster death spiral.
We definitely should not get involved with international politics, because SA simply cannot afford it.
@@resphantom We will not bow to USA, CIA, or any colonial masters scum.
@@resphantom Check, trade is also part of the game and the US corner SA knowing that willl triger emotions. All we need is a stable trade partnership. For now a relationship with the US is an abusive relationship. In simple terms, does not do any good for SA and not sustainable.
Let's not forget the global economics are shifting and South Africa needs to position itself and for a long term. On a final note, understand how the US work or play their game, you will understand this move through their ambassador. If not, you will allow thier emotional blackmail.
@@trevoryingwane5714 I agree that the US likes to push narrative, but what does the US have to gain by blackmailing us?
I think this might've either been a misunderstanding or our Government actually did pick a side internationally, which is dangerous, because then we will no longer be a neutral country and SA will probably loose a large majority of our trade.
Hopefully SA can provide adequate facts quickly, otherwise assumptions will be made.
Bloody hell...we are doomed!
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Imagine living in a country where the government who takes your tax and leaves you broke at month end, does not represent the taxpayers. Mind-blowing. Nobody can deny that tax in SA is a wealth redistribution mechanism and clearly a means of manipulation. What a strange world where taxpayers don't benefit from paying tax. However, anyone who doesn't pay tax, benefits substantially if the monarchy feels it is necessary
Relocate...
Leave
Then leave
Go to America
True!
So what if they do? It’s not really the business of the US, who has played a major part in creating and prolonging this conflict in the first place. If they can send weapons to Ukraine, others can send weapons to Russia if they want to. Or does SA’s sovereignty suddenly doesn’t count anymore? They are free to make their own decisions.
Unfortunately it does not work that way. We said we are neutral in this war, so now come back we support this rogue stste
Man Russia doesn’t have any investment in your country keep playing with UE, USA and soon 🔜 you will know the real meaning of the word unemployment 🥱🥱
Fully agree! The current US Government are hypocrites. If our country is able to supply for such demand, why not. It will great if South Africa and the citizens of it benefitted from this somehow, you know, such as Russia helping us erect a couple of Nuclear power stations in record time. However it would be very sad if these dealings involved money that only benefits a few at the top.
@@KatangaCatchtv who is employed, let everyone suffer, we are tired of corruption in SA
Fllipen helping that Russian chooth to kill people in Ukraine....
Now the poor will suffer more in this country, if we don't have enough suffering.
American are giving more weapons to Ukrain who criticised Americans
Ukraine is not invading another country it's defending itself against Russia's attack and occupation. They have all right to defend themself just as any nation under attack.
Who supplied weapons and promoted war the most other than the one complaining?
The US is the greatest sponsor of terrorism!!!
Only Russia, Iran, North Korea and South Africa support this war.
Can they share our soldiers too 😳 I want too see how they operate in a war ...
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USA is mad because bricks chose to dump the dollar 😖😖😖🥀
Does SA produce arms? Russia can supply arms to SA but the opposite is doubtful
Probably being the middle man
Does SA produce arms?....does a zebra have stripes 🤷🏾♂️. U talking about the largest arms producer on the continent.
We have the longest range artillary in the world, 76km! Himars type of range
And South Africa invented arms in the past,that are desired by other countries.
But nothing has been invented lately.
We have been supplying arms since just after the English left... 😂😂😂
Why the lack of a specific accusation by the US? Something in the line of "A Russian ship docked at Simonstown naval base in December 2022, and loaded South African manufactured 156 mm howitzer shells (or whatever ammunition) before departing. The eNCA hosts take it to the next level without being specific enough either. Ramaposa's reported response actually sounded natural and logical.
the u.s Said it has proof I'm sure they going to share it with other governments n the opposition this is a huge problem for s.a last thing they want is sanctions by their biggest trade partner
Propaganda by Chinese and Russian agents is a method of creating a hypothetical enemy, instilling false consciousness based on false information in readers and audiences, and promoting and acknowledging the invasion of Ukraine and Taiwan, and the oppression of Hong Kong.
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The world will decouple from China and Russia.
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Intercepted voice of Russian soldiers in Ukraine: “Kill them all. If there are citizens, kill them all."
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Intercepted voice of a Russian soldier in Ukraine: “Raped a girl ... she was 16 years old"
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Intercepted voice of a Russian soldier in Ukraine: “We slaughtered and ate a dog. That was OK."
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Bucha massacre: Her mother had been shot in the head several times. Her younger brother and her father were severely tortured. Her younger brother had some holes in his neck and her father's face was badly damaged. Both were shot multiple times and their hands tied behind their backs.
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Missile attack by Russia against the Mariupol Theater killed 600 civilians. Most are buried alive. Russia refuses to be accountable and calls it a false flag.
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The Russians have proved that "Russian Nazism" Rashism, Rashist, has a deep anti-human foundation and always ends in mass slaughter.
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Ukrainian citizens returning from Russian prisoners are seriously injured in the limbs severed by an infectious disease. He was tortured by cross-examination and beating two or three times a day and was forced to sing the Russian national anthem.🇯🇵🇺🇦🇹🇼🇱🇹🇨🇦🇺🇸🇯🇵
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Russian soldiers captured several Ukrainian citizens, tortured them for 10 days and dumped them in the woods. One of the tortures was to put into a pit 2 meters deep without food for two days. He survived but lost his fingers and one-third of his leg due to frostbite and suppuration.
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In the suburbs of Kyiv, Russian soldiers raped women, shot her husband and dogs, and burned homes threatening to rape her children.
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A Russian Pskov paratrooper raped Ukrainian baby and sent a video to his colleagues.
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Russia's strategy is to scare and discourage resistance by killing civilians. It is carried out by Russian army, Special Forces and a Russian private military company under the leadership of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation. They order young soldiers to kill civilians.
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Russian soldiers told the Ukrainians to stop helping the civilians under the rubble if they did not want to be shot and killed.
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The Federal Security Service's Special Forces of Russia have shot the heads of Ukrainian citizens, burned them alive, submerged them in water and tortured them.
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Russia killed at least 477 Ukrainian children, injured more than 897 and left more than 136 missing. However, this figure is expected to be even higher, as it does not include casualties in areas of ongoing hostility or occupied area. One of the victims, an eight-year-old boy from Mariupol, died from a land mine explosion. About 700,000 Ukrainian children were forcibly moved to Russia by the Russian army.
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The world will decouple from Russia and China.
The world will put the most severe economic sanctions on China as we do on Russia.
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..yeah totally nothing to be suspicious about, probably just a bunch of vuvuzelas being loaded onto the russian cargo ship right? We'll see how natural and logical Rama sounds when the US decides to sanction us, you think the BRICS nations will come to our rescue?
RSA can manufacture South African manufactured 156 mm howitzer shells, no lights 🕯🤷♀
@@nocturneuh Not done by the same entity
Me too I don't believe the president is going to look into the matter. All they are going to do is to cover up.
The president have to investigate his own actions to answer a question? So he is acting as if this happen without his knowledge. 😂😂😂😂
😂😂the president no nothing about this...leave him alone Chief..let investigate
VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE IN THE ANC
America shouldn't have issues with a country profiting from war.
But South Africa should have issues with being part of Russia's occupation and war crimes. What have the people of Ukraine done to South Africa to deserve this?
My guy how you happy in making profit wt someone's tears 😭 24/7 ukraine is fighting for their recognition as a country and u here telling us we jus making money we not helping russia 😅you my guy throw away that bullshit mentality of yours and by the way NB: not SA is making money out of this... Its for the a-lister only you u can enjoy that stage 10 loadshedding 😅😅😅😅
Abu Smith, can you not see, who profits the most of war in Ukraine? The Americans arms manufactures. They supply the most arms in that war, by a country mile, and the whole world know that.
@@terrencepeters9203 Russia started the war and when there is war, arms manufacturers make money, that's how it works. If Russia did not invade Ukraine companies would not earn money on the war in Ukraine.
@@Nubbe999 hey something wrong with you? Everyone knows it's the USA/CIA who started that conflict in Ukraine, it works to their twisted benefit. They Kill thousands of people annually round the world since the sixties
😂😂😂if only the world knew half the sh@t our goverment is doing,then ammunition won't be such shocking news.
U mean the world of whom? America? United Divided Kingdom? Let ur world arrest George Bush and Obama!!! Let ur world pay reparations and leave Black Africans and Africa's minerals and wealth includind food production and the African Development Programme to be led by Africans alone...
Yeah ... Banana Republic run by a bunch of clowns
LOL but every government has shocking secrets all I wanted for ours is to at least be productive like some of the most corrupt ones (USA & China).
Amen! US can’t do much to SA than what the ANC has done!!!! They shud be praying for us 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@yolandaventer6550 So there! You said it yourself, Banana Republic, no brains, no resources, no nothing. So where is the weapons of mass destruction, that you white people of South Africa so readily believe the CIA lies.
In summary, what threat is SA to Western Europe and the US. With regards to infrastructure and arms SA is a toddler, and they are grown men. Why paint a picture like there is any real threat. There is a long route between SA and Russia, anything can be intercepted at any time.
It is either an over defensive west or a preamble to use a far away land as home to their battles.
In this case, I'd prefer the ANC and DA etc work together vs jumping to publicly fight. Neither the US or Russia cares about SA more than they care about themselves.
Very well articulated!!!
The USA is terrified of the BRICS currency, if it comes to be.
Im neutral on this matter...when black people were suffering from Apartheid the Americans were having a nice time
International tourism is gonna be in trouble if South africa are selling wespons to Russia . Its a bad situation
This is serious, getting sanctioned would bring South Africa down to both knees
Maby this is something we need , to wake the hell up , we had santions before , it made the country stronger, Sasol was a product that came out of it .
@@rainbow2323 lol nope... Sasol was establised in the 1950s (when America was on good terms with S.A)
The apartheid sanctions came in 1986. Thats is the main reason Apartheid ended. The government at the time stopped getting military support from the USA (lol to stop communists they said) and the National Party became super weak cuz the opposition was getting supplies from Russia and other African countries. The NP did not have income anymore (because of sanctions) and no military support from the USA.
This is what forced the South African elite at the time to negotiate in the CODESA meetings which resulted in this sham of a democracy
So NO!!!!! sanctions will criple us unless we have good leaders who can unite with the rest of Africa... lol but our leaders are clowns🤣
I think that would be a good thing in a long run, well just need to adjust but we can well do more than survive that not the opposite,
So it's okay to be dictated to because we are afraid if being sanctioned, isn't that what we joined brics for, to stop being bullied by western Europe and America. All these other 4 bric country are big economies. What has the ICC done for Africa, if you'll follow? And America, Security Council, Nato??? Except fill our heads with their propaganda 🤨😏😔disappointing.
I'm not a ANC supporter and not into politics......is there anything DA is helping in SA? and what is it doing about loadshedding instead of criticizing the ANC. we know somehow it does have power, but now I see it as a toothless dog always Blah blah blah!😂
you hit the nail they are very useless
All these puppets should be arrested and charged with high treason.
So the D.A is supporting Ukraine is that what it means.
The ANC should be ashamed
White man should ashamed.we support all country in africa send weapon Russia.the west n Usa u coward.
You pigs should be ashamed
Are we shocked not at all! Isn't th criminal Zuma still on trial for the arms deal years ago. Start arresting ppl already this is insulting to us ppl who actually know whats what!
You are out of order
@@patmdoda9567 no im honest and have a memory longer thdn 5 days. Arms deal Zuma, how can we be shocked to know anc sold killing items to a country at war going against the international laws? Oh I forgot only anc can kill a country, steal Trillians and break laws cause they are freedom fighters??? I don't think so
You said a lot of nothing
@@themba4466 no I said what I wanted. In my opinion! Enjoy the freedom of ur furture choices and views. We all have too.
@@1986aurora watch and learn Mrs apartheid
The DA wants to be politically correct and doesn’t take into consideration the relationship we have with Russia compared to US, nobody Sanctioned the US for the damage they did to Japan, and yet they want to dictate who we choose to side with.
Japan was the aggressor, they attacked the USA, China and many other countries
You mean back then when Japanese Empire attacked and killed millions of Chinese? And the same Japan that bombed Pearl Harbour in an open act of aggression? They are allies now I think.
@@fransduvenage4777 Your delusional. Carry on SA and BRICS. I am neutral on this, but BRICS, if you want to support Russia, so you should. You have the power to turn things in your favor. Dedollarization is THE way to stop the control of the West. That said, I do not want the control of the East either, haha.
I say West and NATO, if you can supply Ukraine, then the BRICS can supply Russia. As much as the West breed hate to hear that, it is true, so stop whining all the time, your such whiny breeders.
@@debeerpaul 911 was a lovely cover up of evil terrorism of the West, cough, cough.
Because we are not in position to do so it's like a child acting up to his parents same situation here I suggest you sit down and leave your arrogance at home
So us is spying on sa
US is spying on everyone, just like China, Russia, India, South Africa and many other countries does. So South Africa is supporting Russia's invasion and war crimes with weapons?
South Africa.. especially ANC is playing both sides ...
When we were being oppressed (it happened to everyone, one way or another) the ANC agreed warmly with the call for an arms embargo and sanctions against our oppressive government, to diminish its capacity to do harm, and force it to end its aggression.
So how is it that now, when Ukraine is being quite obviously oppressed every bit as badly as we once were (or much, much worse, if you measure this by body count) suddenly that same ANC is quite happy to get in on a bit of sanctions busting, and won't speak out on behalf of the oppressed, itself? What happened to them?? What has become of these fighters for justice? How on Earth did they become friends of the oppressors?
You can't even call this "paying back a favour" (given a history that edits out the main reasons there was change, and crayons in a story of how, with the help of the nice Soviet uncle, just the ANC forced the society we're now in to happen). This is not the "Russia" (more correctly, USSR) that paid for the ANC to destabilize rivals in a global game played for Soviet interests, alone. This Russian government is made up of the thugs that looted the USSR, and pushed it deeper into the Dark Ages. These are the guys who destroyed the Soviet Union (or doubled down on that destruction). They might as well be bloody Czarists. The only thing they have from those times (apart from loot) is the name of one SSR - the Russian one.
What I mean is that there is not even an _irrational_ justification for the position this government is putting the country in.
And it's worse. The very thing they essentially owe their power to, they're trying to help destroy. The people who made freedom (instead of decades of struggle and death) happen, and who, until the first signs of how worthless this organization was showed, took measures to try to help the country undo the harm the National Party regimes of the past had done (with some small, and arguably necessary help from the liberation movements - all of them); these are the people the ANC wants to destroy. This is the world they're setting out to undermine by helping Russia attempt to destroy Ukraine.
It's called turning on your true friends (at least as far as there can be true friends in global politics).
A good case could be made that it's even biting the hand that feeds.
We will most probably be sanctioned soon,at least by the US
Go to Ukraine then! Who is stopping you?
You are white... You wouldn't understand.
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@@xy8083 why don’t you go to front and fight the ukrain who helped as part of Soviet Union during apartheid that is all Russia wants our land our money they don’t give a sh&t about you or any of us I don’t know if a single but of aid given to any township by Russia not a single soup kitchen even …, nothing! They don’t even treat South Africans in Russia like humans but as third class citizens they have nothing at all in common with any African state except how they can colonise and extract wealth from corrupt leaders they are not your friend in any sense
What I have learnt abt John Steenhuisen is that he cares more about Ukrainians that the people of SA. Fellow South Africans are suffering at his door step yet I don't see half the urgency he shows when attending to the Ukrainians. Wow!
Alice dear, what do you think will happen to ordinary South Africans if USA imposes sanctions, which is what they are about to do? That is what Mr STEENHUISEN is trying to avoid. Maybe think things through before making wild accusations.
Not only that!! Ramaphosa and his Clan have not given a damn about the SA citizens ever since the ANC has been in control. Clearly this one is fast asleep. SA is a mess, and she’s worried a about Where the DA leaders loyalty lies, MY GOD!!!!!
@@Quadruple8888 Yes, I am worried abt this man in particular. Because this is a man who wants my vote in next year's elections. I want to put my faith in a leader who will put me first as a citizen of this country, not people in another country. Charity begins at home. Before you can sort out other people's issues, should you not start with your own? When last did John visit Khayelitsha??
@@dianathompson8794 Dear Diana, maybe you should follow your own advise and think before you comment. And also make sure you understand the context before you post. I am merely indicating my observations abt John steenhuisen's conduct and honestly his conduct doest give me peace of mind because I wanna elect a leader who will look after my interests ahead of other nations. We have enough problems as it is. What makes Ukranians more important than people in Delft and Langa? These areas are under his leadership and they deserve his attention too. FYI, before a sanction can be imposed, there has to be clear evidence of SA providing Russia with weapons. These are allegations and are yet to be proven. You will remember John steenhuisen went as far a contacting the FBI regarding the US currency found at phalaphala farm but where did that go? NOWHERE! Do you ever wonder why the FBI never got anywhere with that matter? He is going on another wild goose chase and quite frankly, he shouldn't waste his breath.
Lol and your president doesn't cares about Russians and not about you. So, what's what now? LOL
They have started accusations. The next thing you will hear is Ramaphosa is a dictator...
Exactly. Like in America. South Africa should silence and sidelines all this white politicians. These people never like black people in good position. All they want is too sabotage every day of the government.
As a young person, it's clearly time to immigrate.
Living in this country is depressing.
immigration becomes more difficult the worse reputation our country gets. We only have a handful socialist dictator driven countries we can immigrate to. It's too late already, I tried.
farewell travel safe .... most of us have no other home but here i am PROUD SOUTH AFRICAN. like we fought for freedom we do this again this time for the survival of SOUTH AFRICA ... we are a democracy not perfect not we are a democracy
Try Sudan.
Look into Canada - 1500 emigrated to Canada last year alone.
Leave and never come back
Pretty hypocritical coming from the clowns who supported the apartheid system and human rights abuses in SA for decades.
No it's is not, notice who they fighting for, thier People in Europe, since they aren't Africans
This Dutch man John Steenheizen must now his Dutch roots..They stole alord from us ...He himself believe an allugation...What tipe of thinking is that....We didn't forget what the Dutch people did to our Forefathers...
they didnt, theyre the ones who sanctioned apartheid SA
You commenting here is supporting an american website. Pretty hypocritical too. Also you're probably on facebook and instagram too.
Truth and only the truth will prevails! Put pressure on the ANC!
Don’t expect anything of substance out of wishy washy Ramaphosa
Ramaphosa actually got us to export Corn to China. That's a win. Stop being a Negative Nancy, we owe the USA nothing. It's just business. And we all know the USA is a big fat liar after what they did to Gadaffi, it would be nice to partner with Russia and China for backup if they decide to do THAT to us. They are launching smear campaigns to invade us. Voetsek.
Nonsense, what ammo?
What South Africa done we call it investment on return those who know the history of South Africa Russia support us during the difficult time there's no problem when we give them weapon
They did not support the struggle. They only pretended. Did you really fall for that?
They used the struggle to fight their Cold War in Africa.
They feel nothing for Africans
Wake up . Study true history.
When did Russia support South Africa? when was this difficult time?
This alleged incident took place 6 months ago. Why report it only now?
Strange move this by the US.
The US ambassador apologized. I doubt if Mr Steenhuyzen will do likewise, for what fundamentally was nothing but political opportunism on behalf of the DA (Democratic Alliance).
... hey, USA, get the phuq out of South Africa !!!!!!!!!!! ...... Z.
South African government doesn't represent me as a citizen of south africa in this mess
Go back to Holland
Give up ur Citizenship. We stand with Russia and China
You should migrate to other countries if you are not happy to be a south african
Emigrate to Holland then
Relocate, simple 😢
Litter swirling in the background 😂😂
How can the President not know
Well the National Party/DA clearly will stand with Ukraine. Understand this Russia was with Black South Africa when apartheid was thriving in SA. Most South Africans DO NOT stand with the US amd clearly DA your vote is lost. No im not standing with the ANC but definately not the DA.
#ANC must fall! $1/R19 absolutely disgusting!
Relocate
£1....R24😢
Yes because the evil west has a financial muscle that's why Brics have create it's currency very fast.
@@tumirakgotlawrites6773 He says as he comments on an American website. 😂
Why don't you just leave our country?
We are Russia and Russia is us. DA must just chill they will never understand the struggle of the black child
Its funny most south African keep on talking Abt the help of Russian federation during apartheid,bt the facts is there was the Soviet union at that time,the USSR helped SA ND Ukraine was part of the Soviet union training south Africans too
@@mfundomkhonta7500 you are correct my brother but in this instance Ukraine is like a young brother that is astray needs a little bit of re alignment. Subsequently power is shifting from the west to the east which is long overdue NATO and the United states of America in particular have been the aggressor for a long time. Before Volodymyr Zelenskyy became president he was a stand up comedian so Putin and BRICS don't have time for jokes the guy doesn't have a idea that this is a proxy war it is the US and NATO trying to infiltrate Russia by expanding east in continuously forcing Ukraine to join NATO. Too hell with America and NATO infact South Africa should pull out of the Commonwealth
@@mfundomkhonta7500 Ukrane has chosen NATO,therefore Ukrane is now our enermy.
Guys, i am sorry to say, your ego is making you hopelessly deluded. So you really want to tell the US to go to hell? And you claim to have the interests of the poor majority at heart? Tell me, how much trade surplus do we get from the US vs Russia, even China? You are all willing to say 'to hell with AGOA'- well, when the US actually puts us under sanctions, i hope you will remember your stance right now.
@@themba4466 hw is Ukraine yo enemy ,ND tell me hw is NATO yo enemy ,bc as we speak SA s biggest trading partners are all NATO members ,less than two percent with Russia
John represent the west he doesn't have south Africa interest at heart.
If it's true then SA is in big trouble.
Which trouble. White South Africans think there are clever, you want to create a scarecrow tactict as if America is God. Let them go to he'll for we are never gonna follow their line of march and the sooner you get this the better
🤣 don't be a coward
If someone come to my house lie and accuse me of doing something illegally without able to provide any evidence, I will sure escort him to my house door and kick him out of my house immediately without a minute of delay. South Africa should escort him to the nearest airport and say goodbye to him.
SA has it coming now!
The ANC had made it very clear that we are on Russias side. So what's all the fuss about. Of course they helping Russia, but is Russia gonna help S.A. with their energy crisis..?
They tried too, way back with the nuclear deal... but noooo Zuma bad. Now nuclear is looking pretty good
Ohh we about to get some old American Democracy
They'll send some black marines here and wip your arse with your own tsambok. They'll rock you
We are Africans
Yeah. One of these days, just like in Sudan, out of nowhere (usa) we will see attempted coup d'etat or civil war or others calling the current government a illegitimate regime. Many nations have been destroyed to establish this "democracy" of the americans.
😂😂😂😂😂
The whole African continent will noar
The ANCs nostalgic approach towards Russia will bring South Africa full circle back to pre-2000 sanctioned South Africa.
Nope. Whites are just worried because they can't control black people. That's all. Stop worrying about us, leave if you want to. I definitely don't USA democracy, you'll find an entire generation who can't tell you what the definition of a woman is.
they won't sanction us..if they do it's suicide, Europe is currently HIGHLY dependent on South African coal
We don't care! They have long out shadow-sanctions on South Africa. The US Imperialism should be met with fierce resistance!!!
Imagine while Russia doesn’t have any investment in South Africa keep playing with UE USA and soon 🔜 you will all know the real meaning of the word unemployment 🥱🥱
The sanctions will very soon be meaningless, with everyone slowly ditching the benji
If Russia payd for it... show me the money... with the country hungry and without jobs.. where did all that lovely lolly go... why bother asking... we all know..and there will be no consequences....
Stuffed in a couch. Or under some mattress somewhere.
They sold the ammunition; what happened to the money stolen for sure ???
Sofa!
How are things in India?
That USA embosser must privide a proof that he claims he has
Well done John! Without the DA as opposition party we would've been long gone.
go back to Holland
Your John is spreading a lie that is being perpetuated by the US. Do you still remember lies about weapons of mass destruction? Iraq was razed to the ground after this lie
Please prepare to immigrate to Ukraine. We the previously and still disadavantaged masses are one with Russia
@@tumirakgotlawrites6773 ask yourself why after 30yrs of same rule you're STILL disadvantaged.
BOLLOCKS..DA IS PRO NAZI UKRAINE. KEEP ON SUPPORTING PUTIN AND THE BRICS COUNTRIES
Vote south african's, ANC has to go we say what will the DA do but how will we know unless we try. but personally i refuse to be a slave to the ANC.
😂😂😂😂haaa I di not know US is scared of SA.we have nothing here we are not war people.wuere will we touch Russia?? WOW,US must know it's fights ,and focus on it.😂😂😂😂😂😂
DA is dreaming this is South Africa baba 😅
DA is day dreaming ....no white party will rule an african country never never
You are correct...and its busy falling into a huge pothole.
That is the SA of the ANC.
A totally failed state
Right
It's South Africa baby, you don't like it, leave it.
@@MrNeversweat now there's a 30% , third world attitude ...
What’s new from our leadership which seems to find themselves always on the wrong side of credible and trustworthy decisions.But this is very critical accusations and the US should rather bring out the irrefutable proof if that indeed be the case. If they do Ramaphosa will be internationally vilified as a liar and this will have very serious consequences for the man on the street in SA. This is not internal party politics for power play but global affairs that can break countries. Got forbid US is wrong with this.
Glory to Mother Russia 🇷🇺 🙌
I wonder what happened to the container with ammo that was stolen from Durban..
My question as well
Play with fire !! Somebody must explain
For the DA react on unverifiable facts or info its so damn pathetic...!
What does this mean to the general public who has zero control on what our “leaders” decide to do? Are we in danger?
You are in danger ask Zimbabweans
Watch p*rn... u'll be fine
That is what us does to try and fight brics
i rrrreally hope our gov wasn't stupid enough to actually send weapons to a warring nation....
I don't trust Ramaphosa. ANC is too cosy with Russia and Putin is playing Ramaphosa. We should be neutral and this shadow support for Russia will cost South Africa dearly.
SA ask Zimbabwe it will tell you about sanctions
Is there anything wrong with ANC sending back the weapons they received from Russia during the Liberation war? This is bullying by the Americans.
You are as dishonest and deceived as the anc re this issue
Imagine
Tell that to the dead Ukrainian children.
Russia is bullying Ukraine
nothing wrong at all! they helped us!! we stand by Russia!!!
If we did, where did the money go?
Under the Presidents couch?
This politician should stop dreaming to ever rule soyjtj africa
This is the work of the ANC
John, are you playing Zelenski now?😮😮
He is and we are doomed if we don't see that
But what weapons can Russia need from South Africa?
If every person in South Africa had an IQ of at least 85 I am telling you all of our problems would go away. The problem isn't the Government and horrible leadership, the problem is us because we are the ones who vote with idiocy and ignorance, we are also the ones who give all the power and responsibility to leaders who are not only low IQ, but are corrupt and obsessed with self gain.
Have you noticed the average IQ on this thread? Its scary.
Mate, our government is the fucking problem! Don’t you get it ?!
America is the last one to point a 🤞🤘
Sad to see our so called democratic country in this mess. This is not the will of the people of SA as we stand behind Ukrain and peace. The ANC quickly forgetten who our true allies are.
We stand with Russia, to keep nato in check. We are with brics, aukus and us and nato can gtfo
Thomas James, please speak for yourself. It's only the white people of South Africa that stand with Ukraine, because they are CIA/NATO followers. The majority of South Africa is anti CIA/NATO
Which SA are you from that stands with Ukraine ? Am i the only one who thinks you are blaffing by merely saying "we" ? you and which South Africans ? You and who? We stand with Russia one way... I sense you are white
@@morathipetrus2751 i stand with Russia against nato expansionism, i stand with libya, dont worry, hes a paid comenter probably. Most side with brics. We are Brics. Why on earth wouldnt we stand with our alliance?
i now get your point clearly but i don't think the stand point of Russia in this point because Russia initiated peace but Ukraine refused the conditions because US denied the peace making since they profit from this war., Clearly you cannot say a puppet is looking for peace and be normal, remember it is Ukraine that compromised the national security of Russia by allowing willingly Nato to expand through their boarders knowing very well the intentions of Nato and the outcomes of it and how Russia will respond as any country would if placed in that situation. I still don't get it when people like you still believe that the puppet is looking for peace. Russia on the other hand is a superpower which i believe cannot under any circumstances allow manipulations of US which destroy so many countries in order to take what they want. Ukraine does NOT/Under any circumstance represent peace= zero
I am shocked that people believed this story. You want to tell me that small ship to weeks to get to SA to load ammunition and head back to Russia. During that voyage, Russia was bombing Ukraine with precision missiles, and they asked SA for ammunitions? Really???? Remember just after accusing SA on that, the West turned on SAs fellow BRICS nations with threats. What type of ammunitions should Russia get from SA was not mentioned
Heads rolling lol
It's none of the USA's business🤷🏽♂️ SA doesn't need to explain itself
We all knew what these criminals would do to our country.
The is no war in US, why are we explaining ourself to US. Ukraine must raise the question, and they will get answer
DA seem to be puppets
US ambassador apologized already, please check the update.
We are part of BRICS...our only hope.
if SA keeps aligning with BRICS it might go back to its pre~2000 sanctions era it will destroy your economy, remember SA is not that important to the western market and the reason why they havent sanction you because they think south africa can rejoin the western world but theyre starting to think it wint rejoin
Whats the chances of a civil war? I swear instability is on the rise in South Africa
Yes because our economy is in the hands of white capitalists
EFF leaders has lots of insight in politics same could be said about Musi Maimane ,Zungula and Bantu holomisa 🙏🏽then we have Da that are politics dwarfs with no insight at all scoring political own goals every moment 🤦♂️
Yeah scoring own goals, that's why our province is keeping this country afloat. You have no idea what you're talking about.
@@bzilla-d4i in terms of what?coz it has Cape Town which naturally a beautiful place ?if your a South African I’ll be so worried coz clearly you have no idea about the history of this country ..
South Africa is caught in the middle of cold war.
Unbelievable news. Who would have thought that our country could sink to such depths
You must be living under a rock then
Relocate.
Um.... Everyone not living under a rock? The writing has been on the walls for YEARS! and if you think SA has it rough now... Just you wait... ANC is entering its end-game. There will be mass killings. There will be sanctions imposed on South Africa. There will be complete "military" take over. The country will be worse off than the state that Zimbabwe went through.
@@Vv-fl2rm You too. Cameroon any good?
We must send troops as well
And so what??....
Steenhuisen should be in Ukraine right now, he will fit right in. 😂and let the democratically elected Party/government run SA even if it is perceived incompetent by some.
exactly! 🙂
Where should the ANC go then!!! Don’t u think they causing more chaos!!!!!!!
And you should be on a different platform, this one is American. They literally gather your data and they directly profit from you watching ads.
ANC is risking South Africa position and south Africans who are already struggling We Could get Hard sanctions like North Korea worst case scenario