Greek here, and I approve this video completely! Too underrated, you deserve a lot more views for exposing this relatively unknown piece of Greek history.
It always amazes me how ancient Greek civilization is. It can only be compared to very few places on earth, like Egypt, Mesopotamia, India and China. It's worth mentioning we're talking about a civilization in 3000BC with art, sports, high-rise buildings and indoor plumbing
@@avtaras They was and they are Greek's and that proving the Greek DNA of the people of Cycladic, Minoan and Mycenaean civilizations with same DNA with the modern Greek's.
@@WanaxTV i live in Athens (predictably). Its important to note that Athens houses millions of greeks that migrated from the rest of greece after ww2, making it quite diverse. For example i have cretan and euboiese ancestry :)
World first cultures Vucedol, Lepenski Vir (Iron Gates) starts 11500 BC, Starcevo culture starts 6200 BC, Vinča culture starts 5700 BC, today Serbia. Samarra culture 5500-4800 BCE, Cucuteni culture starts 4800 BC, Varna culture starts 4500 BC, Yamnaya culture 3300 BC. World first industrial revolution ca. 6000 BC. Bronze metallurgy. (BBC History news March 2010) Gordon Childe-The Danube in Prehistory, Jacque Pirenne-Agriculture at Danube Farming start about 6000 BC. Vinca First Calendar start to count years at 5508 BC. (Now in 2024 we have year 7532) Farming wouldn’t be possible without knowledge of calendar. Both development started and developed together. Harald Haarmann about first cyrillic writings in Vinca culture in 5500 BC so 2000 years before any writings anywhere else on the world. Vinca Iron production 1400 BC. In today English language there is more than 2000 same or similar Serbian words. Names of the Balkan tribes: Pelasgians, Mycenaeans, Etruscan-called themselves Rasi, in Serbia exist even today province Ras. Wendi, (Wendisch museum in Cottbus, Germany, Lusatian Sorbs, Lužički Srbi.) Illiyrians, Macedonians (Homer is saying Paeonian people walked on foot 11 Days to help Trojans war), Dardanians (Original Troy is here, not in Turkey, Homer wrote sea is freezing in the winter-Panonian sea), Moesians, Dacians, Thracians, Rasci, Celts, Scythians, Sarmatians, Arians, Sea People, Peleset, Philistines, Hittites, Bhrygians. Tribes spread in all directions all over Europe and Asia ……. Wild Greeks arrived ~ 1000 BC from Egipt, Hungarian from Asia and Bulgars from Asia they found culture on the Balkans, writings and language and they mixed with domestic people. 18 Roman emperors were born in Serbia because of Etruscan connection. After Trojan war many groups of people left Troy in all directions to middle Europe, northern Europe to Britain and Scandinavia, south to Anatolia.One group under Aeneas sat sail with 22 ships and about 3400 followers and reach Italy-Etruscans. Proto Serbian language spoken all over the Balkans in Illyria, Thracia, Dardania, Moesia, Pelasgia, Macedonia, Etruria, Bhrygia, Sarmatia and so on….Germans published dictionary in year 1791 German- Illyrian so you can read the words and speak, it is today Serbian.It is older than Sanskrit, Greek, Latin or all western European languages. Plato confirms in his work The Dialogues of Plato-Cratylus the Greeks used Pelasgian (Proto Serbian) to develop their own language.
Thanks for making this great video about a much lesser known subject. This was a subject I didn’t know much about, I only knew about the art and the time periods of the culture. Do you have any suggestions for further reading on the topic?
That’s where the Olympians and some Titans were born literally; others were born close by: Zeus and Hades on Crete, Hera on Samos, Hephaestus on Lemnos, Apollo and Artemis on Delos, Herakles and Dionysus in Thebes, Aphrodite in Kythira (near the sea of argos), Ares from Thrace, Poseidon on Rhodes or Mantinea Arcadia or Mount Olympus or Mount Othrys or Arne in Boeotia lol and lived in Aegae near modern Politika Kafkala., Hermes in Mount Kyllini in Arcadia or Mount Olympus. A couple of the olympians were demigods.
@@gnas1897 is it close to samothrace or Pergamon? idk I think it’s close enough by ship. Remember Oceanus is the ocean that encircles the earth so people were known for sailing far distances
A video about Amazons would be very interesting. "Truth behind the myth" topic also would be interesting. They fought against greeks many times, even against Lycia and Priamos, though they lost every fight 😅 thanks and congrulations on 10k subs.
Naxos there is this name i found Leontini, they founded a settlement on Sicily 700 bce, they called their town naxos and leontini. the name means small lion cub, the lions of Delos were donated from Naxos, The Naxians appear to be movers and shakers of marble craving , 23000bce, if not later, Many of their statutes were dorbed with red cinnabar , it came from the iberian coast, So some one was sailing a far distance,
Shorter than today for sure. Unfortunately we are unsure of their language. Only Minoan Linear A tablets were found in the Cyclades. They probably used it for trade, being under Minoans in 2nd millennium BC.
@wanax tv: You can find also neolithic culture like cucuteni-trypillian culture and the tartaria tablets that shows that pictograms were used in the danubian plains and carpathian mountains much earlier then the harrapan civilisation..so i think the first system of writing was made in the carpathian region.cucuteni culture started around 5500 bce much earlier then the harrapan civilisation...cucuteni culture is famous by the role of women played in the society by the urban development of big cities with big palisades and water moat for protection and for trade routes starting from the north of romania to the cyclades neolithic cultures(see hamangia culture)....sculptures and figurine poterry are more developed then in the harrapan culture. It seems minoans and their cult for the holy bull(minotaurus) has the start in the danubian plains.the discoveries that were made about cucuteni culture show a sofisticated culture very developed and very similar in thinking and attitude with the later civilisation of etruscans or sardinians. i think you should make a history vlog more about tartaria tablets and the cucuteni culture and visit the history museum in bucharest or iasi(romania) or kyev, ukraine to see cucuteni -trypilian culture.you will be amazed by the sofistication and level of democracy and tolerance of this culture, about their religion that have a huge respect towards mother earth. here is some links: ua-cam.com/video/OOVUtMDQXAY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Bk2Qbf1YQbI/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/8cHLnAgXLMY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/gomacU96HnE/v-deo.html with respect, laurentiu
Another theory like the Indo-Europeans. Behind such stories are hidden purposeful and territorial claims. When something is not mentioned by ancient authors it is simply a theory.
@@sak594 who has teritorial claims? These are mentioned by the european arheologist since 1960...tartaria tablets are subject of study since the 1960 by the romanian scholars.also the "old europe"culture is studied since the '80 in europe and united states universities from the time of maria gimbutas and the kurgan culture.please,quit smoking strong stuff!🤣🤣
00:15, "Predecessor of Europe's very first civilisation"?! 600-700km northern, towns with hundreds of houses of thousands inhabitants had existed 3.000 years before what is shown here.
The so called “frying pans” are probably ritualistic objects venerating the great mother sea goddess. You can actually see the genitals marked between the tiny legs and below the great womb, where marine themes (e.g, waves, fish, ships) are often depicted.
Would be the Bronze Age invaders from Asia Minor the same who were conductive to the formation of the Minoan civilization (genetically Balcanic but with cultural traits also attributed to Asia)?
It’s hard to tell. They did come from somewhere. When it comes to the Minoans, they likely originated from the original Neolithic Cretans. The area of Knossos was continuously inhabited since Neolithic well into the Minoan palace periods, with slow and gradual development with no violent interruptions recorded.
This is why supposedly,. the burn 🔥 the library of Alexandria,...😂😂😂 All that knowledge was looted.. !! Remember,....!!! Hellenistic expansion was sharing .. Knowledge,...,!! UNEXPECTABKE ,... People must kept in the ☝️ Dark,..!!
It's a pity that many statue and miniature of this civilization in the 60' and 70' for the mania of the Rich peoples for the modern abstract art was Stolen and sold on the black market for private use, like prints and today even if we take back them we don't know their use since we dont know the environment where they was found (grave, or other places). Like for the tomb raiders of etruscan graves here in Italy (often local sheperds and marauders) i hate deeply the people Who stole and sell privately something that should be a Commonwealth, they should be charged with 20 years of prison. Thats the reason, also, among the others why we know few about the cicladic civilization, since their locations was looted by tomb raiders in the 60' 70'. Like indy Say "this belong to a Museum". Not to your damned private collection
Greek here, and I approve this video completely! Too underrated, you deserve a lot more views for exposing this relatively unknown piece of Greek history.
Thanks Pan. We’re growing by the day! 😎
Im going to Greece next year, including Crete, Santorini, and Naxos. I’m very excited to see the works of this 5,000 year old civilization!
You made the right choice. Amazing place to go to!
You'll be sorely disappointed. Take it from a local.
Amazing kebabs
It always amazes me how ancient Greek civilization is. It can only be compared to very few places on earth, like Egypt, Mesopotamia, India and China. It's worth mentioning we're talking about a civilization in 3000BC with art, sports, high-rise buildings and indoor plumbing
Don’t know if we can even consider the Cycladic and Minoan civilisations to be Greek. Mycenaeans can be though.
Greeks are the oldest. Greek is the oldest language.
@@avtaras
They was and they are Greek's and that proving the Greek DNA of the people of Cycladic, Minoan and Mycenaean civilizations with same DNA with the modern Greek's.
Greek here. We learn about the civilization at early school. Really interesting stuff!
Awesome. Which city? 🇬🇷
@@WanaxTV i live in Athens (predictably). Its important to note that Athens houses millions of greeks that migrated from the rest of greece after ww2, making it quite diverse. For example i have cretan and euboiese ancestry :)
@@facoulac That’s awesome. I was in Athens, it’s beautiful but also huge!
Nice video! I've always wanted to visit the Cyclades and am just amazed at how they created those figurines and statues!
You could take a fast cruise through the Cyclades if you catch some extra time on your trip! 👌🏻
💪💪💪💪 love your content. Rhe mystery of late copper age / early bronze age civilizations fascinate me.
Thanks, appreciate it! Love early Bronze age Aegean!
Congratulations! Great work on a difficult topic! You could have added a few words on findings from Keros.
World first cultures Vucedol, Lepenski Vir (Iron Gates) starts 11500 BC, Starcevo culture starts 6200 BC, Vinča culture starts 5700 BC, today Serbia. Samarra culture 5500-4800 BCE, Cucuteni culture starts 4800 BC, Varna culture starts 4500 BC, Yamnaya culture 3300 BC.
World first industrial revolution ca. 6000 BC. Bronze metallurgy. (BBC History news March 2010)
Gordon Childe-The Danube in Prehistory, Jacque Pirenne-Agriculture at Danube
Farming start about 6000 BC. Vinca First Calendar start to count years at 5508 BC. (Now in 2024 we have year 7532) Farming wouldn’t be possible without knowledge of calendar. Both development started and developed together.
Harald Haarmann about first cyrillic writings in Vinca culture in 5500 BC so 2000 years before any writings anywhere else on the world.
Vinca Iron production 1400 BC.
In today English language there is more than 2000 same or similar Serbian words.
Names of the Balkan tribes: Pelasgians, Mycenaeans, Etruscan-called themselves Rasi, in Serbia exist even today province Ras. Wendi, (Wendisch museum in Cottbus, Germany, Lusatian Sorbs, Lužički Srbi.) Illiyrians, Macedonians (Homer is saying Paeonian people walked on foot 11 Days to help Trojans war), Dardanians (Original Troy is here, not in Turkey, Homer wrote sea is freezing in the winter-Panonian sea), Moesians, Dacians, Thracians, Rasci, Celts, Scythians, Sarmatians, Arians, Sea People, Peleset, Philistines, Hittites, Bhrygians. Tribes spread in all directions all over Europe and Asia …….
Wild Greeks arrived ~ 1000 BC from Egipt, Hungarian from Asia and Bulgars from Asia they found culture on the Balkans, writings and language and they mixed with domestic people. 18 Roman emperors were born in Serbia because of Etruscan connection.
After Trojan war many groups of people left Troy in all directions to middle Europe, northern Europe to Britain and Scandinavia, south to Anatolia.One group under Aeneas sat sail with 22 ships and about 3400 followers and reach Italy-Etruscans.
Proto Serbian language spoken all over the Balkans in Illyria, Thracia, Dardania, Moesia, Pelasgia, Macedonia, Etruria, Bhrygia, Sarmatia and so on….Germans published dictionary in year 1791 German- Illyrian so you can read the words and speak, it is today Serbian.It is older than Sanskrit, Greek, Latin or all western European languages. Plato confirms in his work The Dialogues of Plato-Cratylus the Greeks used Pelasgian (Proto Serbian) to develop their own language.
Great presentation as always 🥇🏆
Thank you! Appreciate it as always brother! 💪🏻
Amazing video. Your graphics keep getting better and better, damn this map is a work of art in itself!
Coming from Odysseus who personally visited each and every island, I highly appreciate it!
Thanks for making this great video about a much lesser known subject. This was a subject I didn’t know much about, I only knew about the art and the time periods of the culture. Do you have any suggestions for further reading on the topic?
Thank you for the hard work Wanax
Thanks sevo!
That’s where the Olympians and some Titans were born literally; others were born close by: Zeus and Hades on Crete, Hera on Samos, Hephaestus on Lemnos, Apollo and Artemis on Delos, Herakles and Dionysus in Thebes, Aphrodite in Kythira (near the sea of argos), Ares from Thrace, Poseidon on Rhodes or Mantinea Arcadia or Mount Olympus or Mount Othrys or Arne in Boeotia lol and lived in Aegae near modern Politika Kafkala., Hermes in Mount Kyllini in Arcadia or Mount Olympus.
A couple of the olympians were demigods.
Thrace isn't close to the kyklades
@@gnas1897 is it close to samothrace or Pergamon? idk I think it’s close enough by ship. Remember Oceanus is the ocean that encircles the earth so people were known for sailing far distances
@@TheRealTomahawk Thrace is close to Samothrace, but the one is part of the Balkan mainland while the other is an island.
A video about Amazons would be very interesting. "Truth behind the myth" topic also would be interesting. They fought against greeks many times, even against Lycia and Priamos, though they lost every fight 😅 thanks and congrulations on 10k subs.
Amazons would be good mythological content. Will probably get to them sooner or later! Thanks!
Awesome video, thank you
Naxos there is this name i found Leontini, they founded a settlement on Sicily 700 bce, they called their town naxos and leontini. the name means small lion cub, the lions of Delos were donated from Naxos, The Naxians appear to be movers and shakers of marble craving , 23000bce, if not later, Many of their statutes were dorbed with red cinnabar , it came from the iberian coast, So some one was sailing a far distance,
A new video is always a welcomed surprise! I often wonder how much this culture influenced the incoming proto-greek folks
That really depends on the region, but every Greek area was at least a bit influenced by them.
That’s a good question. A video on proto-Greeks would be interesting. 👍🏻
Thank you! I requested this one 2 days ago :)
Request granted! 😎
1:11 in one kykladic Island we have found sympols who archaeologists Sampson say maybe have relation with Minoan sympols is 2.500 bc
Fabulous. As ever!
Thank you!
Excellent video. How tall were these people? What did their homes look like? Did they speak an Indo-European language?
Shorter than today for sure. Unfortunately we are unsure of their language. Only Minoan Linear A tablets were found in the Cyclades. They probably used it for trade, being under Minoans in 2nd millennium BC.
@wanax tv:
You can find also neolithic culture like cucuteni-trypillian culture and the tartaria tablets that shows that pictograms were used in the danubian plains and carpathian mountains much earlier then the harrapan civilisation..so i think the first system of writing was made in the carpathian region.cucuteni culture started around 5500 bce much earlier then the harrapan civilisation...cucuteni culture is famous by the role of women played in the society by the urban development of big cities with big palisades and water moat for protection and for trade routes starting from the north of romania to the cyclades neolithic cultures(see hamangia culture)....sculptures and figurine poterry are more developed then in the harrapan culture.
It seems minoans and their cult for the holy bull(minotaurus) has the start in the danubian plains.the discoveries that were made about cucuteni culture show a sofisticated culture very developed and very similar in thinking and attitude with the later civilisation of etruscans or sardinians.
i think you should make a history vlog more about tartaria tablets and the cucuteni culture and visit the history museum in bucharest or iasi(romania) or kyev, ukraine to see cucuteni -trypilian culture.you will be amazed by the sofistication and level of democracy and tolerance of this culture, about their religion that have a huge respect towards mother earth.
here is some links:
ua-cam.com/video/OOVUtMDQXAY/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/Bk2Qbf1YQbI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/8cHLnAgXLMY/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/gomacU96HnE/v-deo.html
with respect, laurentiu
Another theory like the Indo-Europeans.
Behind such stories are hidden purposeful and territorial claims.
When something is not mentioned by ancient authors it is simply a theory.
@@sak594 who has teritorial claims? These are mentioned by the european arheologist since 1960...tartaria tablets are subject of study since the 1960 by the romanian scholars.also the "old europe"culture is studied since the '80 in europe and united states universities from the time of maria gimbutas and the kurgan culture.please,quit smoking strong stuff!🤣🤣
What about the dragón houses
00:15, "Predecessor of Europe's very first civilisation"?!
600-700km northern, towns with hundreds of houses of thousands inhabitants had existed 3.000 years before what is shown here.
The so called “frying pans” are probably ritualistic objects venerating the great mother sea goddess. You can actually see the genitals marked between the tiny legs and below the great womb, where marine themes (e.g, waves, fish, ships) are often depicted.
Possible ✔️
Αρχαιολόγοι πιστεύουν ότι τα τηγανοσχημα κεραμικά είχαν χρήση ημερολογίου της γυναίκας περιόδου.
Ancient Hellas!
Would be the Bronze Age invaders from Asia Minor the same who were conductive to the formation of the Minoan civilization (genetically Balcanic but with cultural traits also attributed to Asia)?
It’s hard to tell. They did come from somewhere. When it comes to the Minoans, they likely originated from the original Neolithic Cretans. The area of Knossos was continuously inhabited since Neolithic well into the Minoan palace periods, with slow and gradual development with no violent interruptions recorded.
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Χαιρε Αναξ
I just think those skillets were to extract salt.
Personal question for the author: are you Greek?
Probably not cause he mispronounced a lot of names.
Προφανώς όχι, η προφορά του εκφωνητή δεν είναι Ελληνική.
This is why supposedly,. the burn 🔥 the library of Alexandria,...😂😂😂
All that knowledge was looted.. !!
Remember,....!!!
Hellenistic expansion was sharing .. Knowledge,...,!!
UNEXPECTABKE ,...
People must kept in the ☝️ Dark,..!!
What 8000 years? 700.000 years old weapons finded in this area. And a human sculp in Attica was 2million years old. Face history you teach..
“Bce” immediately disliked and skipped.
It's a pity that many statue and miniature of this civilization in the 60' and 70' for the mania of the Rich peoples for the modern abstract art was Stolen and sold on the black market for private use, like prints and today even if we take back them we don't know their use since we dont know the environment where they was found (grave, or other places). Like for the tomb raiders of etruscan graves here in Italy (often local sheperds and marauders) i hate deeply the people Who stole and sell privately something that should be a Commonwealth, they should be charged with 20 years of prison. Thats the reason, also, among the others why we know few about the cicladic civilization, since their locations was looted by tomb raiders in the 60' 70'. Like indy Say "this belong to a Museum". Not to your damned private collection
Greek is are the oldest