"Big old brutes", "SA will make it ugly". Oh Dear, where do you scrape these "pundits" from ? They never watch rugby and go by old stereotypical narratives.
Boks have added a lot to their game. They've got real flair and quality in their back line. They just happen to have the best scrum in world rugby which is also pretty handy.😂
Too right, so many irish blokes/journalists coming out of the woodwork that seem to think they know everything about rugby 🤣 Laughable, I guess they are good at talk, no walk though when it matters.
"Fantastic tries"? I love south africa, I think they play a really reliable style of rugby and I have massive respect for how good they are at the sport. But I'm not going to pretend like they score beautiful looking tries. Most of them are pretty 'ugly'. But honestly why does it matter if they are? A try is a try
Totally agree with you @messenger6859 ....... But its Ok, as i posted in the comments today............................SA and NZ do our talking on the field.
As a South African 🇿🇦 I can see some over confident comments. Springboks aren’t over confident and arrogant. England is a very good side and could beat us. Did well against the All Blacks and pushed us in the WC. I must say though - NH teams and their media really need to be a bit more humble. The Irish and French especially could benefit a bit from this.
It's the over the top celebrations that makes this England team exceptionally unlikeable - imagine how they'd act if they actually won a game, and not just be awarded a scrum.
Why the perception that Boks can only "win ugly"?? Surely any neutral observer can see that we much more than a bunch of powerful brutes, winning ugly. Not sure what type of rugby we need to play to get a "winning in style" comment. Won't hold my breath.
So true, that kind of view is really getting old and it's mainly coming from Northern Hemisphere quarters. I am so confused on what is the correct brand of rugby.
@@dazza9859 Permit me to complete my first post above.... Your South Africans would be better than our South Africans provided you clone our Dr Rassie Erasmus and have his clone as your coach. Don't blink tonight, or you'll miss the run of the Springbok. It's gonna be Fassie and furious!
@ What on earth does that have to do with how SA have played in 2024? You are grasping at straws to try make a point I don't think you have thought through 😜
No one sees Ireland as a big of a threat as Ireland themselves, NZ just proved they are not as good as they think they are. SA might be known as bruisers, but that is such a dated philosophy, SA continues to score more tries than their opponents in every game they play, and don't need to use the forwards as battering rams anymore. England lose 4 in a row and your "analysts" really think that they will beat SA after SA just won the WC and RC and beat NZ twice and just beat Scotland. Please get a real analyst on and don't be so fixated on the northern hemisphere teams as none of them even won last weekend... and none of them have won a WC for 20 years
Ah would you stop. Ireland had a bad day at the office. Any of these teams can beat each other on any given day. Just look at the recent results history between Ireland the NZ and SA. NZ have lost to ARG and Aus this year and havent beaten the Boks in four outings. The Boks are the team to beat. But they have only won 4 of the last 5 against Ireland.
The Boks are one of the top try scoring teams in 2024 and all everyone talk about is winning ugly. We score more tries then most of the countries in 2024 if not the most. Northen Hemishphere should stop allowing anyone to be a rugby pundit... they make the North look bad with silly comments.
It's not hard for the Boks to be switched on for England....Scotland and Wales takes some extra effort, as there's no deep seated irritation, but England, just watch them celebrate an opposition knock-on.
England are a much better side than what they are given credit for. On the other hand South Africa are not as good as they are often pictured. I think the England side will do creditably well against SA but odds are are they will be ground down last 15 minutes and SA snatch a close win.. I think people will be surprised by England effort though on the weekend . The other scenario is of course South Africa just smashes them.
Most teams the boks face are super formidable teams ...but the fact that the boks never underestimate them ...is why they slightly nudge these wins out...almost every time...
As a Saffa 🇿🇦, i see England coming into this game emotional and looking for some sort of revenge, which can either galvanize or trip them. The Boks on the other hand will be cool, calm and collected as usual. I see a great game on the cards.
The English media already make excuses for their team losing: the Springboks playing ugly(?). Obviously this Irish guy never played rugby or against a rugby team of high caliber. You want to know why the Southern Hemisphere is so good - we are warriors. Go Springbokke Go ❤
As a die hard Springbok supporter and addressing England supporters here please don’t read into these over confident/arrogant brandy and coke fuelled comments by some of my fellow countrymen. Believe me, the majority of us are expecting a proud England team hungry for victory and revenge. It’s the essence of rugby and anyone who writes off England are simply clueless about the modern game. We’ve been wounded before and often play our best rugby then. England are wounded
Back to back wc, rugby championship, lost only twice this season , last 10 games vs England , SA -7 , England 3 , so saying we over convident is an absolute crazy statement, i think you should lay off the" Brannas",,
Here is an interesting detail..Scotland and Australia have both had some success against England now, playing their backs...yet the AB struggle slightly against them even though not dissimilar... This weekend, the team who kicks the least should win....this is my very uneducated opinion.
“South Africa will try to make it ugly” Saying this when England just picked Steward at FB and Van Poortvliet at 9 but sure SA are the ones who will make it ugly🤣🤣 Has this guy actually watched any rugby this year outside of the 6 Nations?
Sorry England, currently you are not even in the same ballpark as South Africa (And i am a 63 year old All Black fan). You lost to NZ BUT more importantly, you lost to Australia and should never have let that last try be scored. I do not wish to disrespect anyone but, as you should have learnt, over the past 100 years ........... when the pressure is on.............NZ and South Africa, always rise to the top. In 44 matches, England have only beaten us (NZ) 8 times and yet, all i heard 2 weeks ago was how England would be too good for us. Try to be a bit HUMBLE.......... NZ and South Africa NEVER talk themselves up, they do their talking on the field. As of today, only 1 Northern Hemisphere team can match it with the top 2 down under teams... and that is France. Good Luck South Africa, do what you have done over the past 100 years and we look forward to our next Epic encounter. Big Jim. New Zealand.
Englands only hope of winning is the kicking game... making the boks play at them under pressure... and capitalizing at the breakdowns where boks have been very untidy of late
New rule needed ! The captain needs to be able to make at least 2 Captain Calls per game ! The official should not be allowed to make calls with impunity and get away with it ! The players play the game and the refs should do their job in a respectful way !
As always arrogance from Ireland, they actually still think it's cute to act entitled, arrogant beyond belief and actually believe their own hype. Going on a massive losing streak still won't change their massive heads anyway. The Springbokke are always genuinely complimentary of their opponents even the cocky ones.
England won't win because they are too eager & are only concerned with winning hence they wont play with the freedom we will. At this point Springboks main concern is to get the evolving our game especially the attack & trialing the new variations. Our goal is always the world cup & matches in between serve as practice.
Seeing alot of amateur backseat fans quoting what the pundits said as though they have a better knowledge of the game than these people why dont you guys go on sky and give your 2 cents
Sorry, I’m English. Borthwick has been in the job far too long for ‘green shoots’ to be a positive. We have the players not the coach. Bringing in ex-Oyonnax coach is not promising. Steve’s muckers. I suspect a loss against SA possibly a cricket score. And a ‘green shoots’ performance against Jones’ Japan. Again sorry to be negative but we have the players. The Prem is not as bad as some make out. It is not the reason why England have this awful run.
They don’t. Borthwick has stuffed this campaign right up. He’s still got the snake Mike Ford’s finger up his ass, and has made consecutive bad decisions, which cost England both matches. So instead of going into the Australian game with bragging rights having beaten the ABs, which would have been worth at the a win, they didn’t and they allowed australia (who played excellent rung by at times) to finish out. Now four losses on the bounce and the world number 1 team this weekend. Thank god it’s Japan next week.
While the English cricket media call it as it is, great is the ongoing damage done to England rugby by the English rugby media, by feeding the lie, since a single RWC trophy two decades ago, that England are better than their results. This specific video is almost farcical.
Despite the last two results,I can’t see English 🏴 winning v Boks ,I definitely think Forwards can go toe to toe ,but Boks backs are class act . Do not want Daly Slade Ford near even the Squad,club players at best now . We need to choose from ENGLAND 🏴 A SIDE ! These games should have been to bed WC possible players ,EDDIE BORTH cautious,look bigger Picture…2003 World Cup Final done nothing as any werth since .
For a country thats been playing rugby for more than a hundred years youd expect them to atleast know how to chat about the game in earnest We dont expect you to win a quarter final but atleast talk real rugby and leave the regurgitated hogwash at the pub
Springboks not just flat track bullies. Highly skilled and smart players. And then there's the coach...
"Big old brutes", "SA will make it ugly". Oh Dear, where do you scrape these "pundits" from ? They never watch rugby and go by old stereotypical narratives.
😂 they pulled him off the streets
Who the hell are these experts.
Wow... My eyes couldn't be wide open after that statement😮
hes a welsh they lost against Fiji
@@pietkroon6548 🤣🤣🤣
Boks have added a lot to their game. They've got real flair and quality in their back line. They just happen to have the best scrum in world rugby which is also pretty handy.😂
South Africa only playing/winning ugly is such an outdated, lazy analysis.
"South Africa will try to make it ugly" who is this bloke and why does he put his hands over his eyes every time South Africa score fantastic tries?
Too right, so many irish blokes/journalists coming out of the woodwork that seem to think they know everything about rugby 🤣 Laughable, I guess they are good at talk, no walk though when it matters.
it's a coping mechanism
"Fantastic tries"? I love south africa, I think they play a really reliable style of rugby and I have massive respect for how good they are at the sport. But I'm not going to pretend like they score beautiful looking tries. Most of them are pretty 'ugly'. But honestly why does it matter if they are? A try is a try
@ Sure
@@AbeHopwoodWhat? Springboks have been hella expansive this year and scored some beautiful tries from open play.
South Africa make it Ugly🤣🤣🤣Im a kiwi Springboks Are Consecutive RWC Champions & All You Got Is This BS
New Zealand are the top side in World.Not the Boks.
Totally agree with you @messenger6859 ....... But its Ok, as i posted in the comments today............................SA and NZ do our talking on the field.
@@dazza9859 he said hes a Kiwi cant u read
@@dazza9859well that was random
If the english thinks this way then they'll always find it extremely hard to triumph against the Bokke
"Big old brutes" is a dismissive description of a team thats roughly the same size as England's, and has skills and deeply thought out tactics...
Boks are simply just FEROCIOUS
Ran rings around them in the 2019 final playing amazing rugby while England just booted it all game
It's how they cope...
As a South African 🇿🇦 I can see some over confident comments.
Springboks aren’t over confident and arrogant. England is a very good side and could beat us. Did well against the All Blacks and pushed us in the WC.
I must say though - NH teams and their media really need to be a bit more humble. The Irish and French especially could benefit a bit from this.
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this will not be an easy test match by any means the boks will need to be at their best
No, it’s either the English make it easy or hard but after 80, there will be only one winner and it will be the Springboks
Stfu. You boks are totally arrogant
It's the over the top celebrations that makes this England team exceptionally unlikeable - imagine how they'd act if they actually won a game, and not just be awarded a scrum.
Why the perception that Boks can only "win ugly"?? Surely any neutral observer can see that we much more than a bunch of powerful brutes, winning ugly. Not sure what type of rugby we need to play to get a "winning in style" comment. Won't hold my breath.
So true, that kind of view is really getting old and it's mainly coming from Northern Hemisphere quarters. I am so confused on what is the correct brand of rugby.
Happily take the Ugly winners tag over the Pretty Losers, dont need other's validation, validation is the Webbe Ellis
Win ugly = win.
Envious Ire supporter, won't hear him credit the Boks
@@krlauf5307 Welsh, I think.
England can beat South Africa if they play with 5 or 6 South Africans for them.
So... that will mean that their South Africans would be better than our South Africans?!
😂😂😂😂
Same as when newzealand beat Ireland with somoans tongans fjians in there team😂
@@ravenblack7052SA fans are so childish and arrogant.
You are playing England not Scotland😮
@@dazza9859 Permit me to complete my first post above....
Your South Africans would be better than our South Africans provided you clone our Dr Rassie Erasmus and have his clone as your coach.
Don't blink tonight, or you'll miss the run of the Springbok. It's gonna be Fassie and furious!
The truth is you dont beat us. Your team is good but we are great. Goodluck, Siya Kolisi and the boys gonna come for you :)
boet the same thing England said about Australia!...hou in n bietijie.
@@atoms-to-atoms I know I’m setting myself up here so the boys better come through
@@gummygumdropz5821 🤣
Siya Kolisi why is he still in the team?
@@pietkroon6548 Because he is the leader and the captain. you can't put a price on leadership
South Africa will try to make it ugly? Geez mate, where have you been?
world cup final against 13/14 Men?
@ What on earth does that have to do with how SA have played in 2024? You are grasping at straws to try make a point I don't think you have thought through 😜
Saffa here: all the top teams are capable of winning on their day, we know that and we know that nothing more than.our best will do.
No one sees Ireland as a big of a threat as Ireland themselves, NZ just proved they are not as good as they think they are. SA might be known as bruisers, but that is such a dated philosophy, SA continues to score more tries than their opponents in every game they play, and don't need to use the forwards as battering rams anymore. England lose 4 in a row and your "analysts" really think that they will beat SA after SA just won the WC and RC and beat NZ twice and just beat Scotland. Please get a real analyst on and don't be so fixated on the northern hemisphere teams as none of them even won last weekend... and none of them have won a WC for 20 years
NZ is a team in transition unlike the Boks.
Ah would you stop. Ireland had a bad day at the office. Any of these teams can beat each other on any given day. Just look at the recent results history between Ireland the NZ and SA. NZ have lost to ARG and Aus this year and havent beaten the Boks in four outings. The Boks are the team to beat. But they have only won 4 of the last 5 against Ireland.
@@nadir1378 Boks used 48 players in the Championship. 😂😂
We have more new talent being bled than any other team
@@cliffardgerber3830ha 64 million population though😅😅😅😅😅😅
@@dazza9859Can't compete, with the(360 mil)
SPRINGBOKS MADE ALOT OF CHANGES VS SCOTLAND....AND STILL WON COMFORTABLY AT THE END.....NOT MANY TEAMS CAN DO THAT TO A TOP 6 NATION IN RUGBY
Dear England. See you at the first scrum. Cheers 🇿🇦
Druk hulle poep loss manne
"Salads dont win scrums..." Ox
Argintina by 10 🇿🇦 🇿🇦 🇿🇦
Simply,they don't
Was about to comment the same thing😅
People said the same thing when we played Ireland, its unlikely we will win, but in sport anything can happen
@@darkstarr2321love the optimism
@@nathanmatthews4981 glad to hear it
The Boks are one of the top try scoring teams in 2024 and all everyone talk about is winning ugly. We score more tries then most of the countries in 2024 if not the most. Northen Hemishphere should stop allowing anyone to be a rugby pundit... they make the North look bad with silly comments.
If you can't scrum well for 82 minutes against SA,you'll suffer humiliation.I see the England's reserve props are substandard.
Bok fan here out of all the teams we play against I go all out in cheering when we win against England 😂 haha
In your dreams SA is going to thrash England 😂😂😂😂😂
respect to england rugby from my side, they not very consistent but out of the NH teams they got grit when it matters 🇿🇦
Irish commentary….,… as usual way off the mark, no wonder their team fails in every WC.
They don't...video could have been about 2 seconds long.
20 points or more to the boks
The answer is simply, "They don't"
It's not hard for the Boks to be switched on for England....Scotland and Wales takes some extra effort, as there's no deep seated irritation, but England, just watch them celebrate an opposition knock-on.
Do what England always do give the players British passports and have them play for England 😂
Are you talking cricket or rugby?
Think you might be getting England confused with Scotland and Ireland lol
Love the ignorance here, its far from just England that do this
Every player in the 36 man England squad was born in the UK. Your chatting shite
You just made that up🤷♂️Read the facts!!
England are a much better side than what they are given credit for. On the other hand South Africa are not as good as they are often pictured. I think the England side will do creditably well against SA but odds are are they will be ground down last 15 minutes and SA snatch a close win.. I think people will be surprised by England effort though on the weekend . The other scenario is of course South Africa just smashes them.
SPRINGBOKS BY 20 PLUS 👍🙏😊😊😊
Go springboks. 🏆🏆🏆🏆🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦awesome team
Most teams the boks face are super formidable teams ...but the fact that the boks never underestimate them ...is why they slightly nudge these wins out...almost every time...
Has this pundit watched any rugby for the past 12 months?? 😂😂 absolutely clueless
hes Welsh bro u have to understand?
They won't so not a discussion. It won't be a blow out but fairly comfortable for SA.
As a Saffa 🇿🇦, i see England coming into this game emotional and looking for some sort of revenge, which can either galvanize or trip them. The Boks on the other hand will be cool, calm and collected as usual. I see a great game on the cards.
For most South Africans our top games are vs Kiwi’s, but beating the poms just feels better!
The English media already make excuses for their team losing: the Springboks playing ugly(?). Obviously this Irish guy never played rugby or against a rugby team of high caliber. You want to know why the Southern Hemisphere is so good - we are warriors. Go Springbokke Go ❤
As a die hard Springbok supporter and addressing England supporters here please don’t read into these over confident/arrogant brandy and coke fuelled comments by some of my fellow countrymen. Believe me, the majority of us are expecting a proud England team hungry for victory and revenge. It’s the essence of rugby and anyone who writes off England are simply clueless about the modern game. We’ve been wounded before and often play our best rugby then. England are wounded
Yeah right, you are not a Bok supporter. On the internet I am a Swedish supermodel.
@ how’s that career working out for you? I said I am a die hard springbok supporter. Where’s the confusion?
Back to back wc, rugby championship, lost only twice this season , last 10 games vs England , SA -7 , England 3 , so saying we over convident is an absolute crazy statement, i think you should lay off the" Brannas",,
@@jasonbell1819wrong it’s 6 wins 4 loses
You've clearly been on the branas😅
Question. How many of the current English players will make a Bok match day squad. Answer: None. Nuff said.
COME ON ENGLAND!!
Here is an interesting detail..Scotland and Australia have both had some success against England now, playing their backs...yet the AB struggle slightly against them even though not dissimilar... This weekend, the team who kicks the least should win....this is my very uneducated opinion.
England lost 2 great coaches. And it shows
"Win ugly.." sound so bitter already
“South Africa will try to make it ugly”
Saying this when England just picked Steward at FB and Van Poortvliet at 9 but sure SA are the ones who will make it ugly🤣🤣
Has this guy actually watched any rugby this year outside of the 6 Nations?
Sorry England, currently you are not even in the same ballpark as South Africa (And i am a 63 year old All Black fan).
You lost to NZ BUT more importantly, you lost to Australia and should never have let that last try be scored.
I do not wish to disrespect anyone but, as you should have learnt, over the past 100 years ........... when the pressure is on.............NZ and South Africa, always rise to the top.
In 44 matches, England have only beaten us (NZ) 8 times and yet, all i heard 2 weeks ago was how England would be too good for us.
Try to be a bit HUMBLE.......... NZ and South Africa NEVER talk themselves up, they do their talking on the field.
As of today, only 1 Northern Hemisphere team can match it with the top 2 down under teams... and that is France.
Good Luck South Africa, do what you have done over the past 100 years and we look forward to our next Epic encounter.
Big Jim.
New Zealand.
Englands only hope of winning is the kicking game... making the boks play at them under pressure... and capitalizing at the breakdowns where boks have been very untidy of late
New rule needed ! The captain needs to be able to make at least 2 Captain Calls per game ! The official should not be allowed to make calls with impunity and get away with it ! The players play the game and the refs should do their job in a respectful way !
They need to beat Australia first😂
As always arrogance from Ireland, they actually still think it's cute to act entitled, arrogant beyond belief and actually believe their own hype. Going on a massive losing streak still won't change their massive heads anyway. The Springbokke are always genuinely complimentary of their opponents even the cocky ones.
Haha you don’t, not with the current World Champion Springbok team 🇿🇦🏆🏆
Easy SA win… sadly :(
England won't win because they are too eager & are only concerned with winning hence they wont play with the freedom we will. At this point Springboks main concern is to get the evolving our game especially the attack & trialing the new variations. Our goal is always the world cup & matches in between serve as practice.
Seeing alot of amateur backseat fans quoting what the pundits said as though they have a better knowledge of the game than these people why dont you guys go on sky and give your 2 cents
That’s why Squidge is so popular for real analysis
Sorry, I’m English. Borthwick has been in the job far too long for ‘green shoots’ to be a positive. We have the players not the coach. Bringing in ex-Oyonnax coach is not promising. Steve’s muckers. I suspect a loss against SA possibly a cricket score. And a ‘green shoots’ performance against Jones’ Japan. Again sorry to be negative but we have the players. The Prem is not as bad as some make out. It is not the reason why England have this awful run.
😂😂😂 sky sports and their speculations, doesn't ever come true does it now ? I'm from SA, super proud of the Boks!!! best in the world!!!
South Africa should not be at ease !!! 80 Min. is a short time to get back your composure !!!!
They don’t. Borthwick has stuffed this campaign right up. He’s still got the snake Mike Ford’s finger up his ass, and has made consecutive bad decisions, which cost England both matches. So instead of going into the Australian game with bragging rights having beaten the ABs, which would have been worth at the a win, they didn’t and they allowed australia (who played excellent rung by at times) to finish out. Now four losses on the bounce and the world number 1 team this weekend. Thank god it’s Japan next week.
To answer the question...they don't!
While the English cricket media call it as it is, great is the ongoing damage done to England rugby by the English rugby media, by feeding the lie, since a single RWC trophy two decades ago, that England are better than their results. This specific video is almost farcical.
England are in bad shape and honestly do not stand a chance in this game. Their only strategy here is game management.
ABs have become irelands achilles heel in tournaments😂😂😂😂😂
QF's are Irelands achilles heel
English is South Africa's 🇿🇦 B team... when they don't make it in the Springboke team they go to the lions 😂
Despite the last two results,I can’t see English 🏴 winning v Boks ,I definitely think Forwards can go toe to toe ,but Boks backs are class act .
Do not want Daly Slade Ford near even the Squad,club players at best now .
We need to choose from ENGLAND 🏴 A SIDE ! These games should have been to bed WC possible players ,EDDIE BORTH cautious,look bigger Picture…2003 World Cup Final done nothing as any werth since .
The same way they always do - they don't.
Sorry, but changes are required.
It's a business, and changes due to performance are now required asap. Stop trying to cover up the truth 😊
Easy answer: they just don't
Argies beat the Boks and All Black's this year, I would be concerned if I was Irish. If the play like they did on Friday they will loose.
tough to call for eng vs sa...mate go have a look at the bookies predictions, they don't think its tough to call at all. useless analysis
Good luck too eng., you gona need it.
Oh England, don`t be so sour; just appreciate the SA power. It`s just a silly game; there is no one to blame. I'm a poet, and I don`t even know it!
Simple - they don’t.
Ireland are going to struggle against Argentina.
They going to lose against Argentina
Salty Poms calls the magnificent four-time World Cup champions "big old brutes".
Well, they are big, and they are getting older now, and they can be brutal. Pretty accurate.
@spervuurproduksies What say you now that the magnificent Springboks have trampled the roses in their own garden?
@@AmukelaniHNkuna Haha. Dude, I made a joke with you.
@@spervuurproduksies Well, let us keep the banter going then. It is all in good spirit.
Without Wasabi no hope
Reminds me of CNN from America. Lol this english pundits need to stick to American football
It’s simple, you don’t.
I will support England!
For a country thats been playing rugby for more than a hundred years youd expect them to atleast know how to chat about the game in earnest We dont expect you to win a quarter final but atleast talk real rugby and leave the regurgitated hogwash at the pub
Is there anything great about Great Britain anymore?
i think england should just not show up save the ass whooping
Shame. The English are traumatised and it's kak funny 😂
Laugh it up, pride comes before a fall
Here after 29-20😂
They didn't
You cant
Yall don't have what it takes 2 beat us
They cant
They don't 😂
Simple. Stop smoking dust
Nidakiwe nina beat who 😂😂😂
They can’t
These pundits know nothing about the game. Have they watched any rugby recently? Outdated stereotype of SA being big brutes who only rely on forwards
Are we still on South Africa plays ugly rugby? How many more tries do we need to score from open play?
Hire Kiwis, Aussies, Argies and Japanese.
Do these people ever watch rugby.....
5/5... Bokke by 20...
Best team won.....
😅 how to beat SA....
Not gonna happen