The same Ryan Grigson that ruined Andrew Luck's career and the same Brian Flores who alienated the entire Dolphins roster. No thank you. Rams took them to the shed last night.
unreal the only GM i don't even want, but Brian Flores? wow that would be an amazing HC for the Jets and i think he deserves another chance after what the Dolphins did to him in 2021
Yeah, exactly what a dysfunctional franchise needs… a guy who couldn’t get along with his players, abused his star young QB, and then sued the league for racism when he got fired. Get real.
Ian, that's exactly how I feel about Grigson. Growing up it always felt like luck was dragging them to the playoffs every year. And everything they did was in spite of Grigson. Now it's of course possible that he's changed and he's learned since then, at least I would hope. But on paper I would be super unenthusiastic about having Grigson as the GM. Andrew, Luck is my favorite non-jets player of all time and he totally ruined him
I want Dimitroff as GM, because I think he will work effectively with Woody and everyone else. For HC, my choices are Gruden, McCarthy, or Pete Carrol. Aaron Glen has potential, but if the Jets are about to hire him, I would like to know how and with whom he intends on putting a staff together. Ian, here's a friendly suggestion: For every wannabe 1st time HC you do a stream about, see if you can get information on how and with whom that candidate will put a staff together. Now, when it comes to Flores, I have my doubts about getting the right people in for future QB development, even if that's after 2025 with Rodgers. Right now, what the Jets ABSOLUTELY DO NOT NEED is a first time HC with a staff full of first timers. That turned out to be a HUGE problem with Saleh.
After watching MN lose to the Rams last night, I don't want either of them. The Ram's defense got torched, and Grigson has had a good draft since forever or when Peyton Manning made him look good., I'll take Glenn and McCowan 2, former Jets who understand the Jets and NY media along with expectations
Calm down Jet fans. This would be a great trio (McCowan as well). Grigson and Flores have experience which we've never had before in new hires. Grigson has learned and will be much better this time. Flores was always a very good coach and his 2nd time around he'll be even better.
GMs aren’t like coaches. They don’t learn. There’s a reason why GMs hardly ever get a second chance, and when they do it usually goes badly. See Baalke in Jacksonville.
There are better options for both openings. If we go defensive it has to be the absolute best defensive mind possible with the personality of a true leader.
Had the Dolphins listen to Brian Flores the Dolphins would have been really dangerous with Justin Herbert as a quarterback and that defense he already had but instead they was paying him to lose games and it was forcing him to draft tua instead of Justin Herbert
Flores just doesn't excite me for some reason. I'd much rather go Glenn, I'd be all in on that move. I think its the potential of we missed out on a great coach in Glenn after Flores becomes a member of the growing list of failures here.
I’m fine with Aaron Glenn and like that he seems to want to be the Jets coach, but it might be harder to build a staff assuming Detroit will have to replace both coordinators. That means the Detroit staff will promote people and less will go around for Glenn to take.
Flores struggled to build a staff when he was in Miami. As a Dolphins fan I would say you can expect a high floor and a limited ceiling. You will need a veteran bridge QB. Qb development will be a huge area of concern for Flo until he proves otherwise.
Just yesterday it was Aaron Glenn. I can't keep track of all the rumors! Plus the Jets are STILL interviewing more candidates. 🤔 If they were close to picking a HC, GM & OC.... why would they still be interviewing?
I think you have hit on the key issue with any of these candidates. Have they learned from their passed mistakes and modified their behavior to correct them. IMO the biggest issue is Woody who keeps making the same mistakes.
Sidebar question on X Jets fans said Sauce at his peak is better than PS2 in Denver . Since I respect your opinion my friend who do you think is better CB.
This is Tannybum an agent working for other agents putting their clients and agenda ahead of the Jets. And Woody has zero clue. And the Jets will continue to suk. Cycle of dysfunction.
Physically go down there trying to get the fire down, but it spreads all over. firefighters can’t keep up to put out one space one other play start on fire real quick can’t keep up with it ❤️🔥❤️🔥
As long as the coaching staff has accountability in their plan. I can't watch players like Lazard dropping 3 balls or Clemons not setting the edge and continuing to be trotted out there on the next series anymore.
I can get if a GM said "I need to hire the coach I want" - if they don't have say in that, I doubt most good GM candidates would take the role. But a coach saying "He's gotta be GM"? I feel like only a few coaches have that luxury and Flores isn't one of them. If the Jets said "look we want you as HC but we're hiring Borgonzi as GM", do we really think Flores would turn down what might be his last chance as HC?
I will be ecstatic and a much happier Jets fan when I hear that we have a new, smarter and a much better owner than our current poor and dummy owner, Woody Johnson.
Yes he was. Draft picks were terrible every year after he drafted luck, FA signings were horrible, trades were horrible (Trent Richardson is still one of the worst trades I’ve ever seen). The team won games because they were carried by luck, Hilton, and Vontae Davis on defense. Once they were run into the ground because of the horrible pieces around them, the team showed how bad they were.
I wish Flores wasnt tied to Grigson this much. I really dont want Grigson as GM. He basically ruined Luck's career with poor drafting and personel decisions. Youre right he could learn from his mistakes, but i really dont want him. And him being tied to Flores so much really makes me like Flores as a candidate less because i personally dont want Grigson in charge. Colts fans are warning us about him. And i believe them. Anybody else from the Viking front office, bring them on. Just not Grigson. It definitely to me feels like a Gase as GM hire. Just personally for me. Could i be wrong, oh absolutely. But right now, not too interested.
Flores will be same issue as with saleh! We HAVE TO LEAVE BEHIND the defensive minded coaches!! A good DC can handle that!! Let’s get a good offensive minded coach and get these weapons firing!! We have good receivers, good backs, decent line … we need someone to get crafty
I want me and my friend take a ride on a plane and go there. See if it’s real cause it looks like nobody can keep up with that thing so see if it’s real.❤️🔥❤️🔥
The guys that lost to the Rams in turmoil. VJ D is great if the pass rush hits home on QB. If it doesn't Denvers LB and S are crap and overall D is avg. Regardless of my opinion on this I hope for your sake Ian hire is a hit.
Flores is not even close to good enough to be willing to bring Grigson with him. He got absolutely outclassed by McVay yesterday and Ben Johnson before that. Just get the GM in and put every single resource behind going out to get Joe Brady.
Hello, a high performing Def Coordinator does NOT always translate into a high performing Head Coach. Can you spell, ULBRICK!! You can add Hackett to that failure list too.
Want no part of Grigson!!! Sorry, he did a poor job in Indy. His only great move was A Luck; and u can’t take credit for that when he falls into your lap with #1 overall pick. Never figured out an O Line for a generational QB or any weapons outside of TY Hilton. I think he’d b a very VERY poor signing
Glenn, Flores, McCown, Brady and Nagy. One of these will be the next HC of the NYJ. Problem is all of these guys come with questions or warts. All have high risk. Where is the safe hire? I am not super high on any of these guys for different reasons.
I don’t believe this woman she said on that fire that’s going on that fake. I don’t think it’s fake people are trying to put that out, but it keeps spreading all over and they can’t keep up with it so I don’t know about her. ❤❤
Am I wrong to think or does this have the feel that Woody Johnson is going to "F" this up badly. 3 years from now we are in the same place. Lord please we don't deserve it.
They hire grigson i might suspend watching the jets. He is utter trash, he is why Andrew Young retired early. If Woody hires him it is because he is a bend over bot, like je was to Irsay
Domitrov & Gruden: retain Ulbrich @ DC & have Dorsey OC Draft Abdul Carter or sign Mack Draft Will Johnson to lock down the corners with Sauce who is hungry this year or draft Will Campbell from LSU to solidify the line; this is the most sought after job. Gruden will work with Rodgers which means Adams will be back ready to go; blow it up in 2026 if necessary; no reason to do it this offseason
Fire over where you can keep up with that so I don’t know if it’s real. I hear they had water running out with a put it on so I don’t know what this girl is talking about. ❤️🔥❤️🔥
Do not want Flores! Not a head coach and the job he did in Miami showed. Flores is a good DC but not as a head coach. I really want the jets to go for Aaron Glenn
The one combo I'm actively rooting against, so it figures
Might as well bring back Adam Gase as bring on Brian Flores as coach.
Unreal the only gm i didnt want
Jets will probably go with Aaron Glenn as HC.
The same Ryan Grigson that ruined Andrew Luck's career and the same Brian Flores who alienated the entire Dolphins roster. No thank you. Rams took them to the shed last night.
That wasn’t the shed, them’s was the prison showers.
Same team that did not hire Mike Mccarthy, but instead hired Adam Gase 👀
@@yoholmes273both trash
It's a hard no for me on Grigson
Bill Belechick commented on Flores working at almost every level of the organization which is awesome.
Flores and McCown would be great
unreal the only GM i don't even want, but Brian Flores? wow that would be an amazing HC for the Jets and i think he deserves another chance after what the Dolphins did to him in 2021
Yeah, exactly what a dysfunctional franchise needs… a guy who couldn’t get along with his players, abused his star young QB, and then sued the league for racism when he got fired. Get real.
Ian, that's exactly how I feel about Grigson. Growing up it always felt like luck was dragging them to the playoffs every year. And everything they did was in spite of Grigson. Now it's of course possible that he's changed and he's learned since then, at least I would hope. But on paper I would be super unenthusiastic about having Grigson as the GM.
Andrew, Luck is my favorite non-jets player of all time and he totally ruined him
Luck retired way too early due to getting so banged up behind poor OL's. Grigsom never helped him in that regard
I like Brian Flores, he would be a great HC for THIS NY Jet team
Really want McCarthy not a hero but I’d take 9-12 wins and a playoff win now and then for a while 😂 just tired of no meaningful football after October
Flores isn’t head coach material. He’s a good coordinator. We know that isn’t enough to be a head coach. Salah was a good coordinator.
Let's go!!!
Pass.
I want Dimitroff as GM, because I think he will work effectively with Woody and everyone else. For HC, my choices are Gruden, McCarthy, or Pete Carrol. Aaron Glen has potential, but if the Jets are about to hire him, I would like to know how and with whom he intends on putting a staff together. Ian, here's a friendly suggestion: For every wannabe 1st time HC you do a stream about, see if you can get information on how and with whom that candidate will put a staff together. Now, when it comes to Flores, I have my doubts about getting the right people in for future QB development, even if that's after 2025 with Rodgers. Right now, what the Jets ABSOLUTELY DO NOT NEED is a first time HC with a staff full of first timers. That turned out to be a HUGE problem with Saleh.
After watching MN lose to the Rams last night, I don't want either of them. The Ram's defense got torched, and Grigson has had a good draft since forever or when Peyton Manning made him look good., I'll take Glenn and McCowan 2, former Jets who understand the Jets and NY media along with expectations
Calm down Jet fans. This would be a great trio (McCowan as well). Grigson and Flores have experience which we've never had before in new hires. Grigson has learned and will be much better this time. Flores was always a very good coach and his 2nd time around he'll be even better.
How do we know that Grigson or Flores learned anything at all from their mistakes? That's just wishful thinking/total coping
@@smichaelb1980 Yea I'm sure you're the expert on coping.
GMs aren’t like coaches. They don’t learn. There’s a reason why GMs hardly ever get a second chance, and when they do it usually goes badly. See Baalke in Jacksonville.
Man shut up
There are better options for both openings. If we go defensive it has to be the absolute best defensive mind possible with the personality of a true leader.
Cimini just recently dispelled that rumor on the latest Badlands podcast.
Why did Flores get fired his last HC job yeah he’s not very good a hard pass!
McCarthy ..not flores
It would be the most Jets thing to do to hire Grigson
HIRE Grigson and Locksley from Maryland. Let's go!
Flores would be a Jets-style disaster too
Jets are nuts if they go with Flores. If you want infoI got it. I lived the Flores experience..You want no.part of this guy.
Absolutely Tua hated his guts . And flores gets fired by the black GM in miami Greer and flores still played the race card. . he is toxic
@@martinconde9537 Coaches get hired and fired all the time. Skin color has little to do with it, except in Flores mind.
Grigson with Flores would be a DISASTER
Had the Dolphins listen to Brian Flores the Dolphins would have been really dangerous with Justin Herbert as a quarterback and that defense he already had but instead they was paying him to lose games and it was forcing him to draft tua instead of Justin Herbert
Hey Ian,
Grigson flores together or separately is a NO
rather go with Speilman and Glenn
Great point with defense coaches has no brain about offense who we hired..
Flores just doesn't excite me for some reason. I'd much rather go Glenn, I'd be all in on that move. I think its the potential of we missed out on a great coach in Glenn after Flores becomes a member of the growing list of failures here.
Would be very disappointed with that grouping
Of all the candidates for every level GM, HC, OC........if they hire Ryan Grigson I'm jumping ship!!!
Oh no, please no more retreads!
Not for nothing. I would forego Flores if it means Grigson has to come
I’m fine with Aaron Glenn and like that he seems to want to be the Jets coach, but it might be harder to build a staff assuming Detroit will have to replace both coordinators. That means the Detroit staff will promote people and less will go around for Glenn to take.
yesss FLORES
Flores struggled to build a staff when he was in Miami. As a Dolphins fan I would say you can expect a high floor and a limited ceiling. You will need a veteran bridge QB. Qb development will be a huge area of concern for Flo until he proves otherwise.
I've been saying for 24 hours now: it's gotta be Borganzi/McCarthy/McCown
Just yesterday it was Aaron Glenn. I can't keep track of all the rumors! Plus the Jets are STILL interviewing more candidates. 🤔 If they were close to picking a HC, GM & OC.... why would they still be interviewing?
I think you have hit on the key issue with any of these candidates. Have they learned from their passed mistakes and modified their behavior to correct them. IMO the biggest issue is Woody who keeps making the same mistakes.
Idk bro Flores after last night I would say PASS 😂 😭
Vikes defense was solid and should have had the scoop and score. Offense put them in impossible situations.
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Viking defense was solid. What game were you looking at.
Flores is toxic he is not a good guy
The defense was solid but the offense was selling
I would hate that combo
Sidebar question on X Jets fans said Sauce at his peak is better than PS2 in Denver . Since I respect your opinion my friend who do you think is better CB.
This is Tannybum an agent working for other agents putting their clients and agenda ahead of the Jets. And Woody has zero clue. And the Jets will continue to suk. Cycle of dysfunction.
Not the men for the job.
Physically go down there trying to get the fire down, but it spreads all over. firefighters can’t keep up to put out one space one other play start on fire real quick can’t keep up with it ❤️🔥❤️🔥
s…. This is getting crazy. 17 candidates? Either Aaron Glenn or Brian Flores… although I’m not feeling Flores…..enough with these random candidates.
I like Flores
If that happens might as well bring back sam
Is Rick being a lil biased with this Vikings coaching pipeline?
I donated $200❤❤
My preference is hire Chris Spielman as GM and let him choose the HC he wants to work with.
Who remember flores at miami , another gase.
I'm a dolphin fan and I do.remember Flores in Miami. Jets are nuts if they go with Flores.
BETTER NOT BE FLORES.
As long as the coaching staff has accountability in their plan.
I can't watch players like Lazard dropping 3 balls or Clemons not setting the edge and continuing to be trotted out there on the next series anymore.
I can get if a GM said "I need to hire the coach I want" - if they don't have say in that, I doubt most good GM candidates would take the role. But a coach saying "He's gotta be GM"? I feel like only a few coaches have that luxury and Flores isn't one of them. If the Jets said "look we want you as HC but we're hiring Borgonzi as GM", do we really think Flores would turn down what might be his last chance as HC?
I will be ecstatic and a much happier Jets fan when I hear that we have a new, smarter and a much better owner than our current poor and dummy owner, Woody Johnson.
Why event take a chance that Grigson changed when you have arguably better candidates????
Grigson would not be a good GM. He already proved that. Just ask Luck.
@ 100%
Vance knew JFM would help them.
If Tomlin is not available for trade, They need to just hire Glenn. Flores obviously wants to be paired with Grigson and no thanks.
C'mon we need Glenn/spiel man combo
im so onboard for them! its time to bring sammy D home!!!! do you think sam darnold would be willing to come back if we bring these guys in?
Was Grigson that bad as GM in Indy? Other than not drafting an OL for Luck they still managed to win a lot of football games and win playoff games.
Yes he was. Draft picks were terrible every year after he drafted luck, FA signings were horrible, trades were horrible (Trent Richardson is still one of the worst trades I’ve ever seen). The team won games because they were carried by luck, Hilton, and Vontae Davis on defense. Once they were run into the ground because of the horrible pieces around them, the team showed how bad they were.
He was why luck, who might have out Brady Brady, retired early. Grigson had some success but long term ruined the colts.
@@njlauren on top of that the division was horrible back then. The Titans and Jags were basically 4 free wins every year.
Don't want Flores!!!
I would get Joe Brady in for an interview and hire Kansas City general manager
I wish Flores wasnt tied to Grigson this much. I really dont want Grigson as GM. He basically ruined Luck's career with poor drafting and personel decisions. Youre right he could learn from his mistakes, but i really dont want him.
And him being tied to Flores so much really makes me like Flores as a candidate less because i personally dont want Grigson in charge. Colts fans are warning us about him. And i believe them. Anybody else from the Viking front office, bring them on. Just not Grigson. It definitely to me feels like a Gase as GM hire. Just personally for me. Could i be wrong, oh absolutely. But right now, not too interested.
Sounds like you want Flores but not grigson
Rather have Glenn joined with Brogonzi/Greenberg. Heck why not kick the tires on McCarthy as unlikely as it is?
hire dimitroff, hire flores and mccown if they dont get aaron glenn.
I really don't know why this hype for Flores train started. He's a DC not a HC.
Flores will be same issue as with saleh! We HAVE TO LEAVE BEHIND the defensive minded coaches!! A good DC can handle that!! Let’s get a good offensive minded coach and get these weapons firing!! We have good receivers, good backs, decent line … we need someone to get crafty
Grigson should be a no go!! And if Flores refuses to come because he has to have Grigson i say see ya later To Flores
I want me and my friend take a ride on a plane and go there. See if it’s real cause it looks like nobody can keep up with that thing so see if it’s real.❤️🔥❤️🔥
Flores yes, Grigson hell no
The guys that lost to the Rams in turmoil. VJ D is great if the pass rush hits home on QB. If it doesn't Denvers LB and S are crap and overall D is avg. Regardless of my opinion on this I hope for your sake Ian hire is a hit.
Flores is not even close to good enough to be willing to bring Grigson with him. He got absolutely outclassed by McVay yesterday and Ben Johnson before that.
Just get the GM in and put every single resource behind going out to get Joe Brady.
Hello, a high performing Def Coordinator does NOT always translate into a high performing Head Coach. Can you spell, ULBRICK!! You can add Hackett to that failure list too.
Aron Glen over Flores .
Want no part of Grigson!!!
Sorry, he did a poor job in Indy. His only great move was A Luck; and u can’t take credit for that when he falls into your lap with #1 overall pick. Never figured out an O Line for a generational QB or any weapons outside of TY Hilton.
I think he’d b a very VERY poor signing
Yeah let's hire the guy that destroyed Andrew Luck's career and the guy that tried to destroy Tua's. Great duo!
Glenn, Flores, McCown, Brady and Nagy. One of these will be the next HC of the NYJ. Problem is all of these guys come with questions or warts. All have high risk. Where is the safe hire? I am not super high on any of these guys for different reasons.
It’s a smokescreen
I don’t believe this woman she said on that fire that’s going on that fake. I don’t think it’s fake people are trying to put that out, but it keeps spreading all over and they can’t keep up with it so I don’t know about her. ❤❤
Bla bla blaaaaa!!!! Which means they'll sign adam gase and say "we had great talks so it makes sense for the franchise" < thats a jet type move
Am I wrong to think or does this have the feel that Woody Johnson is going to "F" this up badly. 3 years from now we are in the same place. Lord please we don't deserve it.
Would be a bad move no no and no
Flores just choked last night. Trash
They didn’t choke the rams won. Super Bowl a few years ago they’re a consistent good football team
Did you watch the former jet qb last night?
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@@edsteadham4085 you mean happy feet ? Hahahaah
They hire grigson i might suspend watching the jets. He is utter trash, he is why Andrew Young retired early. If Woody hires him it is because he is a bend over bot, like je was to Irsay
No thanks to both imo!
Get McCarthy. So you can at least have an offense
Domitrov & Gruden: retain Ulbrich @ DC & have Dorsey OC
Draft Abdul Carter or sign Mack
Draft Will Johnson to lock down the corners with Sauce who is hungry this year or draft Will Campbell from LSU to solidify the line; this is the most sought after job. Gruden will work with Rodgers which means Adams will be back ready to go; blow it up in 2026 if necessary; no reason to do it this offseason
Vrabel isn’t a New York Jet & is overrated; no real jets fan wanted that nor Belichick
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Fire over where you can keep up with that so I don’t know if it’s real. I hear they had water running out with a put it on so I don’t know what this girl is talking about. ❤️🔥❤️🔥
Mmm... I think I'm gonna choose Aaron Glenn over this guy and his friend.
Well 0-17 is so about to happen
God no for the GM
I think God would be a decent GM, but pretty sure he is team Chiefs.
Prefer Glenn and another GM
Do not want Flores! Not a head coach and the job he did in Miami showed. Flores is a good DC but not as a head coach. I really want the jets to go for Aaron Glenn
No
I love Flores but PLEASE NO RYAN GRIGSON. Please no. DON’T FUCKING DO THIS
Let’s all just pick another team at this point or just be a fan of football. The JETS are cooked.
If this were to happen it would be yet another in a long line of Jets disasters. Flores is Saleh 2.0 and let's not even talk about Grigson.