Haslab Giant Man's UNREAL Last Day
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- Опубліковано 24 жов 2023
- Join Jay as he breaks down the Unprecedented run of the Haslab Giant Man. While the Marvel Legends team listened to fan feedback on the failed Engine of Vengence and made some big changes to their next crowdfund. The Haslab Giant didn't light the collecting world on fire and didn't fund until an unreal last day spike that nearly hit every tier. Jay digs into the numbers with the help of Brian Brink's Chart Mastery.
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Hasbro should do a poll and let fans decide between 5-10 items on which one they would want for a Haslab. It would be interesting to see which items they would bring up for a poll.
That would require intelligence, common sense, and concern for the consumer - all of which Hasbro lacks.
Cookymonster is awesom 😊
I'm here for the charts. Video did not disappoint. 5 stars. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Don't forget it was Cobra Commander's brilliant strategic mind that saved the Skystriker.
Maybe if the Joes didn't put it alongside 2 other Haslabs during the holidays he wouldn't have needed to salvage that fiasco!
@@brettwood1351 Now you see how brilliant he is? He even saved it being alongside 2 other Haslabs during the holidays
The only thing that saved the Skystriker was the Rancor failing.
Something that John said on a livestream months ago really stood out to me. He was talking about the Dragonfly, and he noted that he wouldn't back it if it went BEYOND a certain number, as this would effectively nerf its resale value due to there simply being too many units floating around on the secondary market. I think that the reasonable price, the fact that it is, after all, a classic Marvel character, and the fact that the overall unit count is low really drove a ton of resellers to jump in at the last minute. EDIT -- YOU SAID IT, LOL
While I don't think crowdfunding is necessary for 99% of toys, I'm still glad for those who supported giant man. I don't personally see the value but it's nice for those who do. I've never been particularly interested in traditional super-hero figures.
It’s def a good time to be alive to have seen these numbers jump in real time 🤣 the anxiety and anticipation was so much fun tbh
I really enjoyed how many of us fans came together to make it happen and just be positive about marvel legends
Congrats to you all I’m glad it backed for you all.
Great analysis 👏💪 Keep up the great work! 🚀🤖
Honestly I'm impressed. Not a fan of crowdfunding by big companies, myself, but I'm glad to see people getting something they clearly want. 🙂
I was expecting it to either just miss the goal or just scrape by, so somewhere in the 9,980-10,020 range, so I'm quite surprised by the outcome.
This video takes you channel to a whole other level. It would nice for Hasbro to throw in the stuff for the 14000 tier but they won't. It was only short by like just a little over 100. Oh well.
I just wish that we got the skrull head because I’m never going to use the zombie faceplate and its never going to see the light of day.
Cool video, Jay. The content here and on GDL2 is consistently some of my favorite on UA-cam. Thanks for the time and effort you put in. Also, LOL @ "Galacti?"
Whoa I thought this Haslab was gonna fail. Congrats to all who backed him.
That is so weird.
One minute after the funding window closed it was 13, 603.
Now your screen shot says 13,889.
It often fluctuates after the deadline, especially as people's credit cards reject the transaction.
@@carlttoon Interesting.
That would only cause the number to decrease.
Also, Hasbro wouldn't count that purchase until after the card has been accepted. and approved.
Next year Gi Joe Haslab is going to be Cobra Rattler I believe.
I think so too 🎉
Yep
Excellent deep dive. I think it was a combination of too many crowdfunds and lack of interest in the character. Maybe they should try a different method with ones that don't have enticing tiers like increase the cost but lower the moq and then lower the cost and increase the moq as they hit tiers. Also they could throw in a few normal tiers of add-ons as well. Either way I happy that people who wanted this were able to get it, it looks like an awesome figure.
I also track the numbers on these Crowdfunds. And my projection wasn't far off from Brian's. Just based on where the backer count was at the beginning of the final week, its average daily backer count, and the ratio of first day/last day backers in previous Haslabs, GM stood a chance of funding. But GM got almost double the amount of first day backers in that last day. That's not something any model could have predicted. ... Or maybe it could...
I think if it had funded earlier in the campaign you'd have seen that last day spike spread out over several days. There's always that group that want the item but won't back it until it's funded. I don't know why but its a thing. So once the last minute backers brought it over 10k then you had the "wait till it funds" folks all jump in. And of course all the other stuff you mentioned. Just my take on it.
Great breakdown! That last day was weird
I think Hasbro fudge the numbers to get the people with figure fomo to buy the Giant-man figure! It just looks very suspicious to have all them backers in just a few hours!
Glad it funded sucks that second tier didn't unlock to get a bang for your buck
The neca 18 inch Deadpool legit had way more accessories, is bigger, and more articulation and retailed like $125.
I would love to know how many folks mocking this haslab and rooting for it not to fund, jumped on board after it did because of FOMO. Bet it was quite a high number.
I ordered two, but it was on the first day. I'd hoped to get the Skrull head but I'm still happy to have two.
I think had the backer count hit say 8000 within those first 10 days, we would have seen this huge increase back then. Once it seems like a sure thing, people jump on.
Base
Giant Man might be an outlier just because it's Giant Man. The people backing Galactus or Sentinel aren't all the same people who have that much interest in a Giant Man. He may be an OG Avenger but OG is 60 years ago. Younger fans might be more into the New Avengers roster.
Tiers
I have never been fond of the Tiers being the incentive to actually fund the base. But attractive tiers do offer an incentive. Especially if they are mysterious. I do think Giant Man should have came with a 6 inch Giant Man with a growing background stand.
Back Early / Later
The sooner it funds, the more people are willing to jump on. I think that was one purpose of the Early Bird, but that backfired because it's also a punishment if it fails.
Going Forward
Really it depends on what the product is. A highly desirable one can jump over a lot of hurdles. Dipping into "Just do a wide release" territory. Sentinel could probably survive as a mass release.
Galactus, probably not unless there is an MCU film.
What the tiers looks like again depends on the figure. But never do something like EOV Haslab again unless it's the Gi Joe route where "yeah we are going to release these in a wide market but with tweaked colors/names"............never do something like EOV Haslab again.
Price - Depends on what it is. EOV would have probably had a better chance at $200-$230 with no Early bird(but including that head as a base offering).
Competing crowdfunds - Giant Man did follow up back to backs with a major preordering season. -It might be wise to actually put it on the radar the prices so people really could plan ahead.
I’m surprised this didn’t fund more quickly, honestly. $200 isn’t chump change, but for a huge classic character, it was less expensive than I expected and I was sure it would at least fund. I’ve never backed any crowdfunded projects at all due to the space they require. If I had unlimited space, I probably would have backed Unicron, Sentinel, Galactus, Victory Saber, Deathsaurus, HISS, Dragonfly, Thundertank and the Cat’s Lair. Money saved, I guess…lol…
All those mail in crowdfunds....
Hasbro wasn't going to let this fail... They need the money, hence all their shit being at every discount store right now.
I think they doctored it.
I think most people misunderstand the charging process and hold off unti the last minute to put the money down. that´s the reason these crowdfunds take off in the last few hours
If you get close to 50% of your goal in the final day of a 45day campaign, some people are going to give it a side-eye.
i think most people misunderstand you pay AFTER the campiagn. a lot of them hold back to get the money, which isnt necessary@@bandoogiemanz
$199.99 is NOT a very reasonable price for this 24" action figure.
$100 or less would have been reasonable at retail.
It would not have been 100$ or less at retail today. A Titan Class Transformer is roughly the same size, and they go for 200$ now. I'm not going to go through and figure out things like parts count and paint apps that also affect the price. Oh and the Disney Tax, I'm sure the mouse wants their cut.
15 years ago, maybe you'd get this for under 100$, but not with the way the toy industry is now.
@@brettwood1351 $100 or less is reasonable.
Consider the amount of parts re-use for dozens of other giant sized characters.
Consider the economies of scale. This HasLab is producing less than 14,000 units. At retail they could produce over 100,000 units. Per unit costs always drop with larger quantities.
Consider the differences between Transformers and human form figures. Transformers are also over priced, but they are also more complicated with more parts and engineering to stand the stresses of transformation.
Fans, collectors, and customers should all be very dissatisfied with the pricing and distribution model Hasbro has chosen for this product.
@@brettwood1351 Transformers, transform. That includes additional tooling and moving parts. At least a third of the articulation in this giant man, is in the fingers.
That's great tbh
I think he looks fantastic and the glass eye technology is so cool (assuming it like the Hammond collection T-Rex which I adore). I just don't have room for ML stuff anymore, otherwise I'd have backed right away.
I wish they had previewed figures for next year that would compliment the figure and tiers. Sure they already had Avengers, Zombies, and Skrulls released, but they should have hyped them on the other side of the announcement
Although a somewhat underwhelming Haslab, I felt it was reasonably priced. My mind was pretty much made up right away that I would back it. However, I purposefully waited until the last day to see if Hasbro would sweeten the pot with an additional offering. You can’t blame a guy for trying, although now I wonder if by waiting that helped to have it miss the skrull head?
I was quite literally 10 mini tés away from missing this guy 😂. I checked around 15 minutes before the funding closed (and I thought it wasn’t going to fund, last time I checked it had around 7000) so you can imagine the surprise and rush to fund it 😂
Can't wait for the flood of Giant Man BAF to hit eBay and the vintage toy shops.
I'm definitely buying on the aftermarket man because I had this other thing that was 200
This was an interesting one. I feel like Giant-Man was kinda a budget Haslab... Well as budget as a 200$ figure could be. And so they kept the price down, and as part of that they avoided any unlocks. They wanted this one to move on it's own, especially after what happened to the Engine of Vengence. Hence the more minor tiers and them all being revealed right from the get go.
Try $ 600 bucks Australian dollars.
@@ernestmuric6719 Ouch. Yeah, I'm in the states, so that's not as bad. Still the global distribution on these is such a mess.
My tinfoil hat says Hasbro cooked the books.
When these hit the docks, it will be interesting to see the unit numbers printed on the shippers. I bet they sold 7-9k will actually make 10k of them and then slowly distribute the leftovers through secondary channels.
Amen! See my other post here with an analysis of the numbers.
I agree, but why do they need to make extras? They know if they cooked the books. For example, if they cooked the numbers to add an extra 2k backers, all they would need to do is make 2k less giant men to cover the legit backers and that could be the end of it. We wouldn't know they made 2k less. The numbers on the shippers could be inaccurate, how would we find out? People will say it's tin-foil, but 7-9k backers is around 1.5million dollars. Who's going to turn down 1.5mil because they missed out on an extra 400-500k? Is that smart business? If you were them and faced with that scenario, what would you do?
A little off topic, when or are we ever going to see a Power Ranger Haslab?
Dear Hasbro, I don’t really collect non-MCU Avengers, but I would probably buy a giant Paul Rudd.
Paul Rudd Ant Man is a staple in my display.
The big questions is....are we getting the skull face...we missed 14000 by only 111.... the skystriker missed their 2nd tier by about 1000 and they were given it.....I'm I jelly..yup...I'm I being petty...damn right I am...I didn't even want it until I saw how close we got and now I want my skrull...
“Toybiz Build a Figure figure”….. that is all
111 or 5% to go on the final SECOND tier? Hasbro better as hell give us that skrull head on the 27th/28th. I completely get you wouldn't do that on a main offer like Rancor, but on a tier, you're 5% away, set that precedent and don't be petty for a billion-dollar boutique company.
It'll depend on the suits in accounting I think. I imagine the team will push for it, because of the goodwill. A friend backed the HeroQuest one, and they didn't quite make the dragon miniature's tier, but it got put in anyways. They might have to reduce some paint applications, but I give it a 50/50 chance.
Still think the Tier's should be free as more people get in on it.
Feels like the Tier's are already price added to the Project. So if everyone doesn't unlock all the Tier's. The Lock Tier's are free money for Hasbro. Something Hasbro doesn't have to spend money on making when you already payed for it.
Dear lord...even elections on third-world countries (I'm mexican, I know about that) are cleaner than this Giant Man crowdfund.
I’m excited for this to be in my collection!
Hasbro backed it themselves. Even with 8k backers they would still make a profit. Those who haven't backed it saw that it was funded, they jumped the bandwagon. Well played Hasbro, well played.
You have zero evidence to support this conspiracy theory. You and the other clowns need to stop parroting this as if it were a fact
I'm inclined to agree. You don't turn down 1.5mil because you have to eat 400k. The crazy thing is, if they did cook the books, they don't even eat any costs. They know how many legit backers there were. So, let's say there was 8k legit backers and they cooked the last 3k to get it to fund, and then fomo took over and pushed it from 11k to 13,989. All they have to do is produce the 13,989-2k they cooked. In effect, they don't spend any extra money. They only have to produce the zombie faceplate for an extra 111 people and there's no extra expense for that as they've already admitted from early on, that the cost of the extra tiers are baked into the base price.
I'm very, very suspicious about this Haslab result. And yes, I do strongly suspect that Hasbro "cooked" the order numbers to get a "win". They can afford to make a profit off 8,500 or even 7,500 orders. So cooking the numbers in the end isn't past them and would be worth cutting profit a tiny bit to save face. But let's do some comparisons.
On the Day 1, Sentinel got about 5,000 orders. Galactus got 6,000 orders. Both EoV and Giant Man (GM from here on out) got only about 4,000 each.
By Day 5, Sentinel was at over 10,000 and Galactus was at over 8,000. EoV and GM were both hovering in the low 4,000 range on Day 5.
By Day 10, Sentinel was at 11,000 and Galactus was at about 9,000. EoV was at just under 6,000 and was higher than GM (who was still under 5,000) even after EoV LOST orders!
By Day 20, Sentinel was at 12,000 and Galactus was at almost 11,000. EoV was at 5,000 and GM was STILL TIED with EoV (which was still LOSING orders) at 5,000.
By Day 30, Sentinel was at 13,000 and Galactus was at 12,000. EoV had DROPPED to just above 5,000 and GM was also just above 5,000 - again, with EoV LOSING ORDERS DAILY! GM stayed in the 5,000 range for THREE FULL WEEKS and essentially tied with the fiasco known as the EoV.
By Day 40 Sentinel was at just under 15,000 and Galactus was just under 14,000. EoV was hugging 5,000 and GM was STILL just hitting 6,000.
Sentinel and Galactus both saw major spikes starting on Day 40. Between Day 40 and Day 44, Sentinel spiked from just under 15,000 to just under 20,000. A spike of about 5,000. Galactus spiked about 6,000 from 14,000 to about 20,000. A spike of 6,000 in 3 days. EoV lost just a few hundred in those days, going from about 5,000 to just barely under 5,000. GM gained only about 1,000 in those days.
On the last day, Sentinel spiked 4,000 - from 18,000 to 22,000. Galactus spiked 7,000, going from about 23,000 to 30,000. EoV sputtered and gained a couple hundred to top out at 5,000. And suddenly GM spikes 6,000 on the last day, more than Sentinel and almost as much as Galactus, even though it took 30 freaking days to go up 1,000 orders from the numbers on Day 1?
Sentinel funded on Day 5 (10,000 orders), Galactus on Day 12 (10,000 orders). GM funded on Day 45 and 22 hours roughly. Literally the last minute. Really? A 6,000 order spike for an offering that was so lame it stood at 5,000 (half of Sentinel and Galactus's numbers) for weeks on end and only added 2,000 orders to the initial orders (placed on Day 1) after Day 40?
No, something is not right here.
Take your dumb conspiracy somewhere else
And it conveniently stopped just short of the 14k skrull head tier. I've wondered why they chose the zombie faceplate as the first tier. The r&d and molding/sculpting cost of a faceplate(zombie) will always be cheaper than an entire head(skrull.) Also, just an observation, not saying it means anything, but it's curious to notice that the faceplate matches the aesthetic of the marvel zombies from mcu canon and not from marvel comics canon, even though this giant man is a character from marvel comics canon, yet the skrull head matches marvel comics canon skrulls.
People don't understand what happened.
Now future giant sized figures that could have been made with re-used parts to make it cheaper will not be possible.
Now people will have high prices and long wait times for every single giant sized figure from here on out.
This getting backed was a victory for the community. Stop being so bitter. Toxic negativity is annoying
@@juansanchez209 HA HA HA
If the Giant Man HasLab getting funded is a victory for the "community" then the people buying this figure, whether they are part of the "community" or net, need to get their heads examined.
You, "juansanchez209", did not buy a Giant Man figure and you are not an actual action figure fan or collector.
It is very strange that you are so concerned about people not liking the HasLab Giant Man even after it reached the funding goals.
Who are you?
Why do you care that people don't like it?
@@juansanchez209how this was a victory?
@@blacksoldier430 How is it not? This will encourage Hasbro to keep putting out “luxury” items for the Marvel Legends line. For those of us who aren’t necessarily strapped for cash, it’s great to hear that we’ll likely get more large characters
@@juansanchez209 but that's not a victory that's just how haslab works, making "luxury items" the only thing you did was giving them your money, and this is already the fourth marvel legends project on haslab and the third large character. either if this was a success or not I assure you it wouldn't make any difference and Hasbro would just move on onto the next project
Personally, I would've rather have had the skrull face than the zombie face
I thought the price for this was decent for a 24" figure. Especially compared to the price of some 6" and 12" figures. As far as resale value, I don't know if it'll be astronomically higher because under 14K will be made. Mainstream fans who don't read comics may not be familiar with this. Can't see it quadrupling in price on the secondary market like Jabba's Sail Barge. Maybe doubling closer to release date then leveling out like most HasLabs.
Is Giant-Man a unique character, or is it Ant-man using his size changing suit in reverse, as in "Captain America: Civil War"?
basically the same
I desperately wanted to get Giant Man, but I just could not afford him. Let's hope then that I have the $500+ when it gets to the secondary markets. 😭
Compared to Galactus and Sentinel, I don’t think Giant-Man will be as much as either of those on the aftermarket
@@Leech-3aftermarket I would jump on 300 bucks. I’m not going for double that lol 😂 that’s like two giant mans. Just couldn’t back this time, my pay day was a week away lol. They should have had 1-2 week extensions to also fund all the tiers.
@@Leech-3 hopefully you are correct. At least I will have plenty of time to save up.
@@Miked673 they're already on ebay. In the future, consider using a payment option like affirm or shop pay. That's what I did when i purchased two galactus. I think i used shop pay and it let me pay for maybe %10 or 20%(cant remember for sure) and then monthly installments for 12 or more months( don't remember the details.)
Definitely some shenanigans going on with how this got funded no one has that much fomo.
Where's my pity skrull head, Hasbro
Yeah, it got close enough honestly...
Yeah… it’s too bad it didn’t reach, especially for anyone who bought two to have a skrull
The figure was an essential piece but the tiers were a mismatch.
I backed it day one, but I think a lot of folks were holding off for a last minute tier announcement of a figure. The Skrull head made sense, but the zombie didn't. There aren't any comic zombies for this to go with.
Had the tiers been: 1) Skrull head, 2) Wasp or a 6 inch Giant-Man, and 3) mini-figurines of Ant-Man and Wasp then this would have hit goal a lot earlier.
Love that Brian Brink.
I always find it kinda a bummer that folks don’t back it and get it done day one if they have the means to do so. So happy I backed this Haslab.
Hasbro had sleeper buyers waiting to rack it to seem as though it funded those last busters we’re hasbro moles.
How the hell did it got funded, I doubt people at the last minute were yeah lets fund it. Seems rather strange, something tells me Hasbro just inflated the numbers and just went with it.
I “suffered” from the FOMO effect at the last day and ordered one. But did watch the campaign relatively closely during it’s process.
I’m just so for Hasbro to throw in that Skrull head, only because we were so close. In my opinion, if they don’t throw it in, having it end so close to complete all tiers, I think it will create some more bitterness in the already quite bitter “community”.
I’m not bitter, I try to be objective. I’m glad it backed for everybody who dreamed of it, but would have also been totally ok with it not funding, as the offering could still be better.
You have direct contact to the ML team Jay, -please- try persuading them to do their best, so they can throw in the Skrull head. We were -so frigging close-. It would be a real shame not to get that already deigned extra piece… And I’m sure it would be a super solid move for the people who backed. I think people would have their faith in the company a bit restored.
And for sharing your insight!
The team might want to throw it in, but the guys in accounting might say no. Let's hope they've got the slack to pull it off.
Hasbro should think about reviewing the tiers when the Haslab gets close to ending. In other words, they could've said that if they get to 13,500, then it would unlock Tier 2, thereby potentially selling more because people may have jumped aboard knowing it reached that 2nd Tier.
@@brettwood1351 I know, I know, I assume it’s more the “money people” who might interfere. Let’s hope they also see the picture in the long run…
@@craighofmann638 Now that’s some good reasoning I’ve never thought of and agree with!
Mattel also has the fail of 1:12 Ecto One. Never let them forget
I love how Hasbro is staying silent on the funding getting so close to the 14,000 skrull face tier. I believe if it hit 13,999 sales. They would still be just as quiet. Thats pos corporations for ya. Pity toy corporations aren't exempt from evil practices. Never do anything in good faith. Oh well.
All the hasbroes are online begging them to include the skrull tier, saying how it would be a big slap in the face to the fandom from hasbro if they didn't include it. They do realize it's hasbro they're pleading with, right? I wonder how they like constantly being on their knees with their mouths wide open?
Onslaught
Ego the living planet
Fing fang foom
Danger room play set
Blackbird
Fantasticar
Milano
So many projects they can do after antman
It sucks that Giant Man funded. It should of came with a 6" matching Ant Man, Yellow Jacket, and Wasp. They could of released alternate costume versions of all three. I also think it should of came with something to show him growing
Be happy for those of us who wanted this :)
@@juansanchez209 Nah, you got ripped off.
@@snellsworld2648That’s your opinion, and I respect it. I personally was happy with the value, so I backed it. No need for hostility or toxicity on either side, just a difference in (equally valid) opinions
@@snellsworld2648Have you grown to respect my opinion?
We all know Hasbro fudged those numbers. We ain't that stupid. Well, shills are!!
If they fudged, then it means that there are even less in the after market. Buyers still win.
@@carlttoon supply and demand. There could be one, but if no one wants it, it's not worth much.
Hasbro bought the numbers. Since the extra number of units won’t be made, it’ll cost nothing to them. What would have been worse is GM not getting funded at $200, which would have probably put the last nail to the coffin for future Haslab projects of that type.
To say that numbers from 3d party stores and international were added at the last minute is BS: why would Hasbro not do that in real time in order to boost the numbers and unlock tiers much earlier during the campaign? Come on.
Lastly, this campaign funded at 138% which is the worst score ever apart from the Barge (100%) and Unicron (100%) sold at more than twice the price than GM. There was simply not enough interest from fans to have an another giant fig with zero feature and that won’t shine in any collection, except perhaps if you didn’t buy other giant Marvel Haslab or if you have a giant mega toy mansion.
Alot of haters didn't want Giant man funded because they knew it would make the Toybiz Giant man price too drop really drop,I heard collectors who owed the Toybiz Giant man say that haslab Giant man shouldn't be funded,they was hating I was on the haslab Giant man funding from day one I needed him for my Avengers 💯so too all you haters Na Na a Boo Boo you smell like Doo Doo 🤣🤣🤣💯
I recently saw the Galactus BAF in a toy shop for $90. It’s nice when toys appreciate in value, I get that, but to shit on new projects that update figures like this is stupid.
@@jeffwhite2280 💯
Thanks for calling out the nay sayers that jumped on. There was a lot of hate about it but when it came down to it they realized their precious Toy biz was going to worth bupkis and hitched their train to that wagon right quick. Great video. I don’t know where I am going to put it but really glad it funded. Day 1 for me.
There’s this very odd wave of people on UA-cam who are angry/bitter about this being funded, and I think it’s pathetic to be quite frank. If you weren’t interested in this project, that’s okay! Not everything appeals to everyone
But there were people actively rooting for this thing to not get backed and mocking those of us who were excited for this project, and now those people are upset that they didn’t get their way
There were people berating those who didn't want to support it these past few weeks when it looked dead in the water. Everyone should be entitled to their own viewpoints both positive and negative.
The hypocrisy of marvel legends fans is ridiculous. My personal bias of completely wanting the EOV I like many others witnessed a shift in how easily people can become hate baited and turn against the very thing they claim to love. How peer pressure is so powerful even in adults who you might think have a mind of their own. For 350$ you would get 5 figures, a car with 2 molds, 21 led lights, blast and fire effects and interchangeable tires. Five figures is 125$ making the car 250$. Ramen toys car is 200-250$ depending if the promotion is going. You get no figures, no blast effects, no tires, no flame effects, no led lights. In fact to get those add ons you have to pay 16$ for tire parts and 16$ for flame effects. So it was never the price because the price differential is marginal at best. UA-camrs who hate Hasbro launched a campaign targeted at fans race baiting, calling out people’s manhood, name calling and turned the fandom into complete chaos. UA-camrs who buy and review marvel legends were waging complete hate based videos at Hasbro and the so called fandom jumped on the bandwagon and the EOV was DOA. But some how the Eternia play set funded, then the thunder tank 500$, the thunder cats huge play set funded. It was never about the price it was about the company. The most insufferable , petulant so called fandom is marvel legends fans. They don’t deserve a line. It’s interesting none of this gets talked about ever. If every corporation is so bad then cancel prime, Disney, Netflix, UA-cam, espn, Mcfarlane, Mattel, neca, they are not charities. They are capatilist in the pursuit of money. Just like every individual on this earth who has a job or career. None of us work 40-50 hours a week for free.
Thats exactly what I was saying throughout this whole time the Haslab was running.
I backed the EoV, I was bummed it didn't fund. And I agree about the Ramen Toys car, I think your reasoning makes sense. But I'm still part of the Marvel Fandom, and I would hate to not have Marvel Legends. I do collect other lines, and I would probably have more money and/or space to display things, but I love Marvel. Things are kind of toxic, I think it's a sign of the times, people are like this in general. Hopefully Legends weathers the storm and it's there when people relearn how to be kind.
Umm…you were not guaranteed the extra figures unless the extra figures were unlocked. So the $350 price was for the car and one figure.
I’m going to have to disagree. I think that the EOV was a bit overpriced. The extra figures are supposed to be extra (though Hasbro has admitted they add to the price) and a price or $350 was too much. $250 would’ve been a sweet spot. Having it be the same price as the Sentinel (which comes with LEDs, two figures, and several accessories, and, oh yeah, a 2 1/2 foot tall figure) looked kind of bad. A vehicle flat out isn’t as much of a draw as a Sentinel or Galactus is. Yes, some people DID for sure go overboard with the complaints, but some of it was justified. This is coming from someone who is a big ML fan though
@@jukeboxhero_21 How many figures were guaranteed with the Ramen Racer?
hasbro gave bbts and others a at cost deal to get it funded
Someone must have gotten a deal cuz there are people listing it on ebay for barely over $100 extra. After fees and shipping they don't make any profit if they paid retail price. What's going on?