This is the only game KOEI subtly acknowledged the fact that Xiahou Dun didn’t actually participate in Fan Castle whenever he gets this stage unlike the older games before and the newer ones after this. (Not including DW6, since KOEI intentionally made it so that he doesn’t have any rivalry with Guan Yu at all in that game, which is historically accurate). This game indicates that Xiahou Dun was only there to give the Wei story a conclusion for Cao Cao specifically, due to the close relationship him and Cao Cao have for the following reasons: Cao Cao tells Xiahou Dun that “there is no need for you to go” (1:59), but Xiahou Dun goes anyways for a legitimate cause, which is basically him wanting to represent Cao Cao on the battlefield, in order to achieve glory by Cao Cao’s name one last time, before he dies (2:13-2:25). This then establishes why Xiahou Dun is in a rush to eliminate the last obstacle for Cao Cao, Guan Yu, before Wu does (2:07-2:12), while developing the hatred Xiahou Dun has for Guan Yu (7:38, 9:09 and 29:38) in the most justified way, simply due to Guan Yu directly opposing Cao Cao. Unlike most of the other games where Xiahou Dun’s reasoning being there is primarily personal in regards to pure hatred, jealousy, and seemingly wanting to be better than Guan Yu. Afterwards, Cao Tai and Liao Hua (ally and enemy) put heavy emphasis when asking Xiahou Dun why he’s fighting at Fan Castle. - Cao Tai questions Xiahou Dun at 3:38 and Xiahou Dun’s response at 3:44 - Liao Hua is surprised and asks the same question at 4:38 - Lu Chang being genuinely happy to see Xiahou Dun at 4:44 Then the whole situation of killing Guan Yu first before Wu does. - Xu Huang acknowledging Xiahou Dun’s effort to lighten Cao Cao’s burden, given the central plot of the overall Wei Story and is aware of it by allowing him to pursue Guan Yu, whereas normally it implies that he would’ve been the one to do so, if Xiahou Dun wasn’t there at 13:55. This is shown in the Shu Story, if the player allows Xu Huang to catch up to Guan Yu (when you’re playing as Guan Suo). They then will exchange the following special dialogue with each other, which relates to what actually happened in reality. Xu Huang: “I have great respect for you as a warrior, but you are an enemy of Wei.” Guan Yu: “I do not need your respect or your flattery. Cross blades with me instead!” Xu Huang: “Very well, Lord Guan Yu!” - At 31:00, if you had waited like an extra three to six seconds before killing Guan Yu, Xiahou Dun would’ve had unique dialogue towards Pan Zhang and Ma Zhong from what I recall, telling them to stay back as he says to them that “this battle is to honor Cao Cao” and how he’ll be the one to kill Guan Yu. Even if Xiahou Dun wasn’t there, they still would’ve captured and trapped Guan Yu to be killed. Xiahou Dun even acknowledges the significance that Guan Yu had as a general, while deciding to put a Shu flag on Guan Yu’s corpse to symbolize respect at 31:17-31:29, to which no other form of Xiahou Dun would do, but only says he hates him with all his being because he stands with Cao Cao (31:33) Lastly, in both the Shu and Wu version of Fan Castle, Xiahou Dun never shows up, only Xu Huang does, as this battle was indeed mainly about Wu reclaiming Jing Province and being indebted to Wei, not Cao Cao himself. As a result, the scene where Cao Cao dies ends up being canon for all the stories whether or not Xiahou Dun participated because Xiahou Dun would have been at Cao Cao’s side to the end either way, given his character.
@@blessedstellaronhunter Turns out after replaying the Shu Story, Xu Huang has special dialogue if you let him catch up to Guan Yu. You can find what he says after I edited this post a 5th time 😅
It’s funny how they have actually brought Sima Yi’s true face when in fact, Sima Yi didn’t even have the balls to revel against Wei when Cao Pi was alive
Sima Yi had personal Rivalry with Cao Zhen Cao Xiu and Cao Zhen's son Cao Shuang. When Cao Cao ana Cao Pi were alive he would never dare to rebel because so many of their veteran generals were still alive but after several years most of the warriors like Deng Ai Zhong Hui and a few other generics were more loyal to Sima Yi because he commanded the Wei army quite a lot during the period Cao Rui was the Emperor of Wei
on real life Sima y become the china emperor, and the cao familiy all death for nothing, the history of asia is hard. all wars just for power and at the end, no one of them has value. Think of corea,japan,all that countrys so many wars for nothing
Sima yan was the first emperor of (jin) after that. Jin divided to West and east jin. After all that. The (liu)s took China again and established (song) Dynasty
Tyler Vielma Xiahou Dun’s last time saying “Your time is up” and how it’s direct to Guan Yu, before killing him a few moments later. Fits the story thematically.
This is the only game KOEI subtly acknowledged the fact that Xiahou Dun didn’t actually participate in Fan Castle whenever he gets this stage unlike the older games before and the newer ones after this.
(Not including DW6, since KOEI intentionally made it so that he doesn’t have any rivalry with Guan Yu at all in that game, which is historically accurate).
This game indicates that Xiahou Dun was only there to give the Wei story a conclusion for Cao Cao specifically, due to the close relationship him and Cao Cao have for the following reasons:
Cao Cao tells Xiahou Dun that “there is no need for you to go” (1:59), but Xiahou Dun goes anyways for a legitimate cause, which is basically him wanting to represent Cao Cao on the battlefield, in order to achieve glory by Cao Cao’s name one last time, before he dies (2:13-2:25). This then establishes why Xiahou Dun is in a rush to eliminate the last obstacle for Cao Cao, Guan Yu, before Wu does (2:07-2:12), while developing the hatred Xiahou Dun has for Guan Yu (7:38, 9:09 and 29:38) in the most justified way, simply due to Guan Yu directly opposing Cao Cao. Unlike most of the other games where Xiahou Dun’s reasoning being there is primarily personal in regards to pure hatred, jealousy, and seemingly wanting to be better than Guan Yu.
Afterwards, Cao Tai and Liao Hua (ally and enemy) put heavy emphasis when asking Xiahou Dun why he’s fighting at Fan Castle.
- Cao Tai questions Xiahou Dun at 3:38 and Xiahou Dun’s response at 3:44
- Liao Hua is surprised and asks the same question at 4:38
- Lu Chang being genuinely happy to see Xiahou Dun at 4:44
Then the whole situation of killing Guan Yu first before Wu does.
- Xu Huang acknowledging Xiahou Dun’s effort to lighten Cao Cao’s burden, given the central plot of the overall Wei Story and is aware of it by allowing him to pursue Guan Yu, whereas normally it implies that he would’ve been the one to do so, if Xiahou Dun wasn’t there at 13:55.
This is shown in the Shu Story, if the player allows Xu Huang to catch up to Guan Yu (when you’re playing as Guan Suo). They then will exchange the following special dialogue with each other, which relates to what actually happened in reality.
Xu Huang: “I have great respect for you as a warrior, but you are an enemy of Wei.”
Guan Yu: “I do not need your respect or your flattery. Cross blades with me instead!”
Xu Huang: “Very well, Lord Guan Yu!”
- At 31:00, if you had waited like an extra three to six seconds before killing Guan Yu, Xiahou Dun would’ve had unique dialogue towards Pan Zhang and Ma Zhong from what I recall, telling them to stay back as he says to them that “this battle is to honor Cao Cao” and how he’ll be the one to kill Guan Yu. Even if Xiahou Dun wasn’t there, they still would’ve captured and trapped Guan Yu to be killed.
Xiahou Dun even acknowledges the significance that Guan Yu had as a general, while deciding to put a Shu flag on Guan Yu’s corpse to symbolize respect at 31:17-31:29, to which no other form of Xiahou Dun would do, but only says he hates him with all his being because he stands with Cao Cao (31:33)
Lastly, in both the Shu and Wu version of Fan Castle, Xiahou Dun never shows up, only Xu Huang does, as this battle was indeed mainly about Wu reclaiming Jing Province and being indebted to Wei, not Cao Cao himself. As a result, the scene where Cao Cao dies ends up being canon for all the stories whether or not Xiahou Dun participated because Xiahou Dun would have been at Cao Cao’s side to the end either way, given his character.
Damn, this is a good comment. Deserves more attention.
That explains why DW7’s storytelling is the best in DW series
@@blessedstellaronhunter Turns out after replaying the Shu Story, Xu Huang has special dialogue if you let him catch up to Guan Yu. You can find what he says after I edited this post a 5th time 😅
i will never not love that foreboding scene with Sima Yi looking at Cao pi gives me chills every time
And so,as years pass,it was Sima Yi along with his sons,Shi and Zhao were the true winners of the Three Kingdoms.
@@jay-2004 especially sima Zhao and sima yan also wang yuangi
Did sima yi kill cao pi?
@@simashi9224 no
Cao Pi died because due of illness, and succeeded by his son, Cao Rui.
"Does your lord Cao Cao yet live?"
"He says he can't die before you do."
I really, really love the music for 7's Fan Castle. Feels so epic.
Funny you describe it that way... The music that plays in Wei's perspective is titled "Epic Man"!
Dynasty Warriors 7 : Guan Yu dead after duel against Xiahou Dun
Dynasty Warriors 8 : Guan Yu teleported
I loved that cut scene, but to me the best comes from Shu with Liu Bei going ballistic angry over the death of his brothers.
Agreed, best scene in the series to me.
I just realized that according to the story, Xiahou Dun is fighting with a starter weapon.
"Guan Yu! I'll beat your ass with this level 1 sword! I don't need your fancy level 3 weaponry!"
They should’ve continued the story into Cao Pi’s era instead of ending it at Fan Castle. The potential was real.
I will admit the moment Cao Cao dies in the cutscene and the music hits, I did cry
Sima Yi’s up to something.
To take over wei
Whaaaaat? No, he'd never do anything sketchy, like taking over China or something...
29:10 best scene
It’s funny how they have actually brought Sima Yi’s true face when in fact, Sima Yi didn’t even have the balls to revel against Wei when Cao Pi was alive
The mind is stronger than the sword
During his time in Cao Cao, Cao Pi and Cao Rui, he was a loyal general, it was once the regencies began that his ambitions began to kick in.
It's not about balls you idiot , it's about sense .
Sima Yi had personal Rivalry with Cao Zhen Cao Xiu and Cao Zhen's son Cao Shuang. When Cao Cao ana Cao Pi were alive he would never dare to rebel because so many of their veteran generals were still alive but after several years most of the warriors like Deng Ai Zhong Hui and a few other generics were more loyal to Sima Yi because he commanded the Wei army quite a lot during the period Cao Rui was the Emperor of Wei
Ahhh CG in Wu story mode...I can't wait))).
The inconsistencies with how Xiahou Dun’s is presented in cutscenes is a bit bothersome
Dang, so Cao Cao is finally dead now. He has been a great warrior throughout 7 games...
finaly ... you come to this game
When I started watch DW7 and XL
I really like DW7 but I haven’t gotten DW7 I only have DW6 TT
your time is up from Xiahou Dun.
16:38
Deng Ma is kill
on real life Sima y become the china emperor, and the cao familiy all death for nothing, the history of asia is hard. all wars just for power and at the end, no one of them has value. Think of corea,japan,all that countrys so many wars for nothing
El Polux HD what
No he didn't
Sima yan was the first emperor of (jin) after that. Jin divided to West and east jin. After all that. The (liu)s took China again and established (song) Dynasty
Oh fuck you liar never simayi
Learn english its not hard.
Wei actually won the war
30:37
I don't get it?
Tyler Vielma Xiahou Dun’s last time saying “Your time is up” and how it’s direct to Guan Yu, before killing him a few moments later. Fits the story thematically.